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Not really a fan of that prize pool, but it is what it is. Valve inching away from the grandest prize pools in the eSports industry is something you would not expect from them, especially since League is faring better in the tournament format and viewership albeit the lower prize pools as well. Perhaps this will be the first TI that I'm not hyped at all, since I believe that teams will no longer try hard to win given that the same prize pools can be had on future majors.

Why not be excited about the best teams competing in the largest Dota 2 tournament instead of fixating on a number. The games are still going to amazing and the prize pool is still big enough to make it worth it for all of the teams involved. (Valves contribution has not changed i believe)
The main culprit behind the lower start to the prize pool is the compendium changes.

I just feel like it's not the same anymore. As a supporter of the battle pass since its inception, and skipping this one, I feel like Valve has to do more and cater to the teams and the fans that has stuck with them throughout these years. With the lackluster content of the compendium, plus the decreased prize pool, I feel like teams won't be tryharding as much, as they can place okay-ish in TI and just get most of their wins in the next tournaments.

A lot have already expressed their disappointments with this year's tournament and format. I'd probably watch it still though I'm sure I'll not be buying the compendium at all.

Btw, i agree that the compendium this year really does not live up to the standard set by Valve themselves. I think the prizepool is still large enough tho, and i am sure it will keep growing aswell!
This seems to be a general trend however (im not 100% certain how big of a role this plays, but im certain it does) that a lot of esports leagues are pulling back prizepools if not shutting down entirely. The entire e-sports industry was way too overvalued and expenses way too high.

I want to root for TL but the odds look deceiving when Team Spirit and Shopify Rebellion could continue to roll over the teams they meet while the previous top teams (GG and TL) are still in recovery mode.

Maybe they want us to view the scene similarly to League's tournaments since it's gaining success despite the smaller prize pool. I also have the same expectation for this year's TI but I hope the teams prove us wrong and still show some top-tier Dota when every part of the DPC season this year comes down to this main tournament.

Buying up that compendium is shit and not really worth. You would really be only getting those shiny stickers and some chatwheel. Yes, its cheap but not really that liking to buy but some of my friends did really purchase
that level 1 and trying out to grind their level until they would really be able to reach out that level 300 which you could have that plaque of Aegis which it isnt really that bad to be some sort of collectors item.
Even myself did really get disappointed that we havent seen those shiny and glorious arcanas that we do have on last years or in previous Battle pass but now this year do really sucks.
Some said that arcana and battle pass would really be after of this tournament. So whats the point on launching it late?  Lots of people do really get disappointed on this one including myself.
We've been waitng for a whole year and since pandemic has been lift up then we are expecting that huge crowd on this years TI but turns out to be a huge disappointment.

Same feels about this year's TI.

 I've started playing Dota at the age of 13 when it is still Dota1, my friends taught me how to play it, and it has been my go-to game up to this date. When I transitioned to Dota2, I've been always excited to watch these players clash for the TI tournament, as the yearly tournament progresses like its prize pool it gets more interesting to watch. However this year's TI doesn't beat the last one, it is okay from my view but it would be great if they did. BUT I would disagree that teams won't try hard to win the TI, it is every players dream to actually hold the TI's trophy, more than the money they could get out of the tournament.

This might be disappointing but we know valve, they aren't perfect and they will learn from this. Dota has million of fans that will support the tournaments and they know it, not just this year  ???

Yeah, no battle pass and because of that, there's not much hype or increase in the number of people playing Dota right before TI. I think its a conscious move from valve's part to devalue TI so that the other tournaments become a lot more significant. There won't be as haphazard roaster changes like it happens before and after TI. On the long run, it might be better for players on the whole I suppose. So, that everyone is not underpressure to win or perform extraordinarily well to even carry on with Dota as a career.

Hello Vennali, I'll help you with the players and teams that you need to edit out from the table since a lot of players and teams from the list won't be present and participate on TI.

There is no Team Secret on TI12 (2023) but Zai and Nisha are participating through their recent team which is Team Liquid.

This is an old roster of VP, the new roster consists of Kiritych~, squad1x, Noticed, sayuw, and Fng.

There is no IG on this TI12 (2023).

They are now former EG but their new team name is Shopify Rebellion which they will also participate on this TI. There's a new EG roster the South American boys.

Ame and Faith_Bian have already retired and they're no longer part of PSG.LGD. However, PSG.LGD is named now as LGD gaming because PSG sponsors now Quest so that makes PSG Quest.

Anyway, the list keeps on going for the edit and you'll surely need a lot of time for it. This is the list of participating teams for your reference mate: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2023

I want to see arteezy win a TI before he retires but this participating teams are all good and it's just so hard to root to any of them. We've got 1 day before the start of the group stages.

OP, I don't know what sources you used or where you got your data, but it seems they're not updated. Liquipedia has got it all. For TI 2023, here's the Liquipedia page for it: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2023.

Everything's there. From the updated prize pool, which is now $2,933,270, to the teams that qualified, their respective players, their categories, and so on.

It seems the excitement of TI is getting weaker and weaker. The decision to retire the Battle Pass surely affected it. The ordinary fans and players worldwide always looked forward to it. Not to mention that it was also a huge source of money for the prize pool.

Not anymore updated with DOTA II, but I might still watch some games and place small bets.

This has been updated 2-3 hours ago. There was no info regarding that until now. I will be updating at least once a day, until TI ends. Hopefully from now on, the excitement will build on!

Valve introduced the people who will cover TI12. And at the same time, the developers added personal bundles of all casters to the game - the most expensive version of such a set costs $19.99. On reddit, users began jokingly saying that casters would now become richer than direct TI participants.
I guess this is not a joke. For example, teams from 17th to 20th place - $8,500 per team, $1,700 per person. Casters can supposedly receive from 10k$ - $20k$ if you count on average, taking into account past TIs and that casters will receive 50% of all sales of their bundles.
I can't stop laughing because of this, sorry  ;D

I'm absolutely thrilled for TI 12 this year! It's always an exciting time of the year for Dota 2 fans, and the split format this year adds an extra layer of anticipation. It's going to be interesting to see how the new format plays out, and I'm looking forward to seeing all of the top teams duke it out for the championship.

it's a tough choice as there are so many strong teams in the scene but I'm always a fan of the underdogs, there are always surprises.  I'm also hoping to see some new teams and players make a splash at TI.
Can't wait to see which teams rise to the occasion and make history at The International 12!

I’m rooting for Team Spirit to win this year competition. They show an insane domination on the last 2 tournament prior to the TI which is the same pattern when they first get their TI title. Larl is finally working well for TS member while collapse is already find his game on the current patch which is typically the game changer on most of their aside from Yatoro being monster as pos 1.

Regardless of the prize pool of the TI. I think everyone still preferred the title which makes this tournament still worthy to watch. I can’t think a team that can match TS now.

Thanks mate! Yes, the list was finally out today. I'll update it accordingly. :)

I'd also like RTZ to do well in the tournament but I have a feeling that he's not in touch with the meta like the Team Spirits, The Gaming Gladiators etc. That's the issue with a lot of older players. They are highly skillful but not that quick to get accustomed to the meta. That being said, its upto the team captain and the coaching staff to give him the best chance to carry the games. RTZ has a highly skillful squad around him to get he best out of him. Only time will tell.

i havent watched Dota 2 in quite a few years and oh man have the teams changed lol. So many new faces there. Im guessing i have to go with either Rebellion or Team Liquid as those still have players i remember but will see how this plays out.
Also not much longer now till start :)

You're welcome mate, well done. We've got less than a day until the entire first match of the group stages starts.

Now that you've said about Team Spirit, they're just like lowkey dominating the last tournaments honestly. They're the best candidate now to win this TI and have a two-peat for this championship. Gaimin gladiator is strong and made a well-known run for the whole year but not with the last tournaments however, that could be a strategy for them to preserve themselves for this main event. We're counting on Arteezy and his gang, Shopify Rebellion. But we wouldn't be surprised if they don't win and it's like Team Spirit or Gaimin Gladiators.

That's totally fine mate, it's just so exciting to see when you haven't watched for a long time and you see unfamiliar faces when you go back. If you've seen the performances of Team Liquid for this year prior to TI, they always been a 2nd finisher and always lose to Gaimin Gladiators but maybe this time they'll come back stronger.

I tried getting back into Dota 2 myself a few months back but so much has changed, it is so hard to keep up! It felt so much easier back in the day. Also i still remember the finals from Ti 3 with NaVi vs Alliance, now that was a GLORIOUS finals.
When looking at all of the rosters i still know some of the guys but not many. Also pretty sad that Team Secret didnt make it, broke Puppeys streak of TI runs

I definitely agree. Team Spirit is the most favorite this TI after winning the last tournament, I just hope they don't make a amess to this TI12 like what they did last year. Yatoro is something of a carry, he reminds me of AME of psg.lgd, a very good carry who can come back after losing early and mid game. His performance last tournament is very consistent plus the 3-0 in the grand finals against the Shopify Rebellion is just so satisfying to watch.

Larl being the weakest link in early days of being TS is expected, I don't really think it is a serious matter for TS but having just enough time to get along with the TS play style, will give Larl the chance to dominate with TS. But I see Larl as nothing against other team's Mid laner, like Abed and NTS.

From my past comment, for players this isn't about the money they can get but the recognition to win a TI is more of a life accomplishment that can't be erased.

That's okay bro if you're having a hard time keeping up. What you can do is just enjoy your coming back and tune out the actions that will happen on this TI. And now that you've mentioned TI 3, a lot of flashbacks just happened and yeah that you're still that far to keep up with the recent changes but that's okay. As long as you know Dota 2, you've played it, you've watched it before, and there's nothing hard for you to keep up with the changes and updates. From the past years, there have been a lot of retirees already but we still have the best oldies that are still in the competitive scene and playing until now.

That's the first time in history and everybody is sad that he didn't make it. But that's fine as he has achieved a lot already and hopefully that this isn't a sign that Puppey will get that opinion from the community that he should retire or transition from being a position 5 player into a coach.

After all those updates not only on having bigger map and new heroes then those items and skill arrangement or changes would really be make your head ache but reading up with the recent patch note then it wont
really be that hard on getting back on trail because if you are really that a fan of Dota 2 then understanding those changes wont really be taking up some long time but of course you would really be needing
to play for yourself and finding out on what those big changes are but for sure it wont really be that much and could really be easily be adapted.

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Team rosters had changed and there are tons of professional old players had already retired on the Dota scene. Ex. Jerax,Notail,Faith_bian,MATUMBAMAN and much more.
Now that some players does have those new faces but pretty sure that you would really be still enjoying on watching out Dota match ups.
Just like the rest been saying that in todays International prize pool which it is really that on the ground and something not that interesting to see.  :'(

It's always challenging to start again playing dota 2 right now, but always remember that great things take time!

Totally game changed - Roshan, Map, neutral items, runes and skills. I've been playing Dota since 2016, and even now it feels like a brand new game because of the frequent patches they release. As true Dota 2 players often say, it's like the game is still in the beta stage.

Good old TI really became traditional eh? Well I spent many days back in couple of years watching TI games its always good lesson for average dota players and in overall with its quick combat nature and strategies fun watch. But I am not fan of teams keep dissolving. Good old team secret is not here. Sad. Anyways I think its very hard to debate on winning teams at dota games because players are not always concentrated, especially at group stage its all open to surprises so bets against big names there can be very profitable.

When getting back into the game the items are what troubles me the most to be honest. I still have the basic skills of movement etc but remembering all the item / skill builds for heroes is just too much. It would be way better if i tried to go in casually, but i just cant. Not the way i play.

Those were some good players. I still remember this: "When game is going full retard, you can only go with it. If you start going against it, if you start going half retard, you're done for!"

I've been playing Dota since 2014 to relax and have fun with friends and I don't play ranked matches. I'm not going to chase ratings. So I also don’t know how all the items are put together. I mean I don't know them 100%, I remember about 80-90%. And this is enough for me to get a kick out of the game.

Since 2014, I have watched every TI. I would like to note that this year the prize pool won't be as crazy as always, but this doesn't make the game worse. I will follow the games with the same joy as always. You just need to choose the most interesting games for yourself because there will be 5 of them at one time. The first game I chose was Team Spirit vs 9Pandas. Congratulations to everyone on the start of TI12  :D

Only 1hr left to start TI! I've already made my group stage predictions in the international compendium. What do you guys think of my picks? Sorry, I'm not a fan of Team Spirit. I believe Azure Ray will take the Aegis in this Tournament! Azure Ray have the solid line up for me; https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Azure_Ray

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Here's my group stage predictions in The International Compendium!
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/12/RF64q.png

And it begins!!! Not as hyped as I usually am for TI but its here. The best teams in the world are competing for the aegis of champions!

Entity got 2-0 against EG. While watching the other stream, it is with GG and LGD gaming that's now 1-0 but watching it currently it seems that on the 2nd map it is LGD gaming that's on the lead.

Azure Ray is a strong team and we all know about that but it's that there are a lot of good teams on this TI so it's hard to decide. But anyway, this is just all about predictions and we're all winners here because this is a long time since we've waited. Forget about the prize pool and let's just all enjoy the games as these are continuous actions until the end of this group stage.

First win for Team Spirit and you've nailed it brother that we're all winners here as it is for everybody who's waiting for this time to come and it had came.

Just take it slow bro, soon you would really be having that good grasps about those changes that had been made all over the years but of course it might take a while for you to get used to it but since
you are an old Dota 2 player then i dont really see some issues in regarding with this. Skills operations would really be just simply clicking out those ALT+ keys or you could customed it out.
There are some changes when it comes to neutral item hotkeys and some  quick cast settings which its not really that hard to understand but well just like been said.
Welcome back and take your time to familiarize things once again. Its not that hard to cope up.

Yes, but i wasnt expecting that GG would be having that 2 loss on Group C. Would be they able to get in? COnsidering that beastcoast and LGD on the same team
then it would really be a tough one i should say.

Who watched the Azure Ray vs. Thunder Awaken game 1? Earth Spirit experienced a bug in the mid-game when he got stuck rolling after Centaur used the Aghanim's Scepter skill HITCH A RIDE.At that time, Earth Spirit had activated his BKB and was using his second skill ROLLING BOULDER.

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Have any of you experienced this bug before? Confirm that Dota 2 is still in the beta 2 stage." Lmao

It looks like i am going to stick with Liquid, that shwoing against Shopify Rebellion was really good. Unfortunately not enough time to watch all the games but ill catch up! Team Spirit and LGD has a very strong showing aswell!


I watched it in highlights, such a silly bug lol

I knew about the bug as it was posted about a year ago on social media. I didn't know that it was never fixed. Well, Valve is a small indie company(joke), so, these things are going to happen sometime or the other. I thought they'd replay the match with same set of heros but I learnt that the admin has the power to send all the heros to fountain with same items and networth. That's useful. Also found out that there's a possible ingame fix to it. Only manta works in getting out of the eternal boulder.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/13/RIhA8.png

End of day 1 results. Only 2 teams that went unbeaten. Team Spirit and Team LGD. Somehow, LGD always show up, when it comes to TI. Should set up for an amazing day 2 as well. Interesting to see which teams are able to get a game off of LGD and Spirit.

I agree with you, the games of these teams are of greatest interest to me, but not those where the enemy is completely destroyed, but precisely those in which the underdog takes points in the group stage. After the first day, bookmakers set small odds for Team Spirit and LGD. I would look from the other side and bet on underdogs with large odds, even if no one believes in them. This may be especially true at the end of the group stage of the tournament. In any case, TI always knows how to surprise and I don’t expect the final to be TS versus LGD.

Tundra and Liquid has the best shot against TS and LGD. The power balance of the team with this currently TI pretty distinct compared to the previous TI which group stage often results to many tie instead of 2-0 matches.

I’m not sure if the level of Dota games on other region drop significantly or Team Spirit and EU teams set the bar high which other teams can’t play close to their game. TS will surely dominate this TI now that they have the momentum once again. I hope Liquid can come up a solution to stop this beast on the Upper Bracket.

If you say a lot has changed for TI Dota 2 then it's true and at the start of this year tournament it is really very difficult to predict who will be superior and every match that has taken place is completely different from the matches at the previous TI.
Maybe all this is because there are changes in players in each team and there are also many teams with new names taking part in or being able to qualify for tournaments which now add to the number of prizes which are also getting bigger every year.

Of course, TI 3 was different because only 16 teams participated with Alliance winning and at that time Dota was not as popular as it is now.
Meanwhile 20 teams participated in TI 12 the same as last year.

The group stage has ended, here are the final standings of the road to TI12.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/14/Rkgeq.png

Only team Spirit goes undefeated into the next phase. While PSG Quest, Team SMG, Thunder Awaken and Beastcoast get eliminated.

That was real quick. Of all the teams that got eliminated, I really did not expect PSG Quest. The team has never been the same since losing ATF.

A solid start by Team Spirit which is so far living its hype. This is the strongest start so far by Team Spirit in TI. Prior to this, I was expecting Gaimin Gladiators and BetBoom to dominate this TI but those teams already suffered losses; although I am confident they will stay in the upper bracket.

It's hard to watch and focus on the games since they're starting in the middle of the night here. So far I am only 1-1 on my bets with 1.50sh odds which means I am losing and need to bounce back.

I haven't had much time to follow the games yet, however, I am very surprised that Team Spirit continues to show such a stable result. This cannot speak of anything else but true professionalism, even though the composition has changed.
I am sure that they will enter the top three on this championship, because they are looks like a single organism, as LGD. Gaming and any asian strong team.  
Yatoro the best.

What surprised me the most was PSG Quest's early exit in Phase One. I never thought they would be eliminated so soon especially when they were in the same bracket as Talon Esport and Keyd Stars the teams I thought would be the ones to exit in my opinion.

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Phase Two matches are so exciting and predictable. I have bet all the teams in the rows above. Thoughts?

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/14/Rvws1.png

Another round of games done and looks like we have the same suspects at top. Spirit with 0 losses, quite surprising, thought they would drop a round. Liquid and LGD are less surprising but im am a little surprised with Tundra. I know they have some great oldschool players but i did not expect to make such a good showing. They did arguably have some luck with teh group they are in but still.

I was hyped for this type of format but after 2 days , the amount of games have been cut in half and I was used to see 12 hours per day of Dota during the first 3 days of TI but this new format took it all away :(.

Anyway , I think Shopify will make a big surprise today and eliminate Spirit in lower bracket and if that happens , I think Spirit can clear that Lower Bracket without any problems  ;D ;D ;D as only luck can defeat them right now.

Yes, Tundra also surprised me with its strength. Still, Topson shows an excellent result at Pugna after a long break. Team Spirit won't leave anyone a single chance. It will be very funny if we see the grand final of Team Spirit vs Tundra. It turns out that the winners of TI11 will play against the winners of TI10  :D

In general, now I like to watch the heroes who were picked to mid: Ogre Magi, Riki, Clinkz. Ogre Magi has already been used in three different positions. And as a mid player he was picked twice, and in both cases he won. Perhaps after this they will choose it more often, of course only those who know how to play it and have trained before.

Ogre Magi is similar to the imba of the current patch and it is quite obvious that you can bet on those teams in which the players showed nice gaming on his hero. I think we need a little more time and we will have a list of heroes who will also be strongly in the lead in the selections. I think Valve is unlikely to release a patch in the middle of the International to fix similar imba heroes.

I agree, the Tundra looks quite strong.

Ogre has always been one of my most favourite heroes, even when he was nowhere near the meta. Just the face he makes and the possiblities the multicasts brought to him, he was a complete terror in bith low ranked games and in public games. I also agree that a patch wont likely happen. But overall looking at all the heroes, only 10 heroes remain not used. Thats actually pretty good!

Anyone notice the visual bug on Liquipedia for Team Spirit vs Shopify? I was checking the tipster provide by Rand and it’s odd to see Alliance on the list while they are not a TI participants.  ;D

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/14/RY5rP.jpeg

Anyway any risk taker to bet +1.5 to Shopify? They manage to get one games on both their matches on the Riyadh Masters. I think this pick make since Shopify usually get 1 game on any of their opponents. Thoughts?

This was the first hero I played in dota, and thanks to the simplicity of his skills, they can be played effectively at any ranks, even at the lowest. One of the great advantages of TI is that you can see how well professionals are able to use all the effectiveness of any hero and thus you can emphasize a lot of new knowledge for yourself. That's because it's a money game. Quite not small amounts :)

Not worth it. They arent playing well in the first place and they are up against the undefeated team Spirit. It should be an entertaining contest but I think they need a miracle(pun intended) to take a game off of team Spirit. Or they have to heavily outdraft them.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/14/RYp48.png

Upcoming matches, my picks would be.  Spirit, LGD, 9Pandas, VP, Liquid, Tundra, Gamin, Entity. Let's see how it goes.

To be fair. Shopify has the chance to get game 1 with their early lead. They almost have the complete control over the map. I’m not sure what RTZ thinking for buying Midas while they are on lead instead of focusing on damage items or BKB which he badly needed. He is back again on farming game mentality.

Shopify is great team if they will have a better carry. Abed talent is wasted on team like this which can’t be rely on late game despite with a good early start. RTZ gameplay is so outdated. His game style is like the old chinese meta which is a farming game until late game before he become aggressive despite they have the lead. I dodge this bullet bet tonight. :D

Obviously it was just a mistake, i have even seen some local dota 2 page showing up those bracket match ups which TS vs SR showing repeatedly which it is really just that an obvious mistake.
For sure it has been fixed because we know on whose really that against with Team Spirit. Im watching now live TS vs SR which TS did get the game 1 and the current game is really just that a
match up. Dont know if SR would really be able to pull this one considering their line up is really that tanky and have that burst. Earth spirt of Abed once again could be seen which we know that hes really that
good with this hero but still they shouldn't really be that too confident considering that TS are really that also one of the comeback kings specially when the game is already taking too long or simply
long game. This is where they do really like to snowball. They are still undefeated therefore i could assume that its likely they would be closing this game dominating 2-0.

The ones that are at the top will be matched today but on the bottom ones, they'll be by tomorrow. Team Spirit and Virtus.Pro secures the upper bracket and these are both CIS teams, they truly are strong. And the match that is happening now is with Team Liquid and EG, I think that this shouldn't be a question as the crowd's favorite is Team Liquid on this one. But who knows if EG will be able to snatch this series against Team Liquid, right? I'll wait until the match ends. It seems that there are a lot of CIS teams that could go to the upper bracket. I think that's so much better so that they can beat each other while the other teams from other regions can avoid them on the bracketing. After Team Liquid and EG, cast your bets with Talon and GG, which team you are going to bet on this one? GG is the favorite but Talon is like a random team that could beat them, LOL. Why I've said that? Sometimes 23savage plays unusually and moves like a thrower.

Buying Midas while leading is actually a good way to extend the lead even further, especially if the hero has a lot of pushing power or benefits from the attack speed. With his TB in game 1, I guess he became overconfident on the rotations that his team is making against TS. I mean, they were 13-0 on the first 20 minutes of the game. That's the thing though, he never though that TS could easily target him in a clash, and the opposing team is ready to throw bodies in order to just get him in that clash and gain a huge exp and gold swing. If he skipped Midas, went straight Manta to BKB, they could have had a huge pushing pressure against TS, but it seems that Artour is still busy farming up until the last second of that first game. ::)

Just witnessed a crazy crazy game against Gamin vs Talon, Game 2. lasted over 60 mins! I think the PA nerf has worked, at least in pros. It doesn't look that OP as it used to. I don't know why gamin keep picking Pango? even though Quinn himself made a rant about how Pango isnt great as a core. The last SEA team somehow managed to win game 2. Game 3, the decider coming up next to see who gets to the upper bracket, and who goes into lower.

That game was insane! I was up way too long looking at that one lol!
I checked out the Shopify Rebellion vs Team Spirit in the morning and i have to say that RTZ is really underwhelming. The team in Rebellion is actually playing well but damn, but it really feels its the carry... sad as that is.

ah, it seems I missed the news regarding this thread.

I used to be active in Dota 2 but unfortunately I left for a long time and I still remember the glory days of NaVi when there were Dendi and Puppey. do you still remember Dendi using Pudge and Peppey using Chen and trying to do Hook to Fountain? I am sure you still remember. ;D

but those interesting times have changed and everything does not look like it used to be, I am even little disappointed that Team Secret could not qualify to appear at TI12 :'(

That was unexpected honestly, everybody thought that Talon Esports would be knocked out too easily and they'll be sent to the lower bracket but then, they've just beaten the team that's considered the strongest for this year because of their achievements in so many tournaments that have passed. But that's it, a team changes into beast form when they're on the appearance on TI, and GG wasn't the strongest one. Maybe they'll also have the motto just as the old Team Liquid that upper bracket is just for the b****es and that's why they'll go the hard way and we will see if they will.

Many have counted for Shopify Rebellion but that match of theirs wasn't for them and Arteezy seems to have a different build shop because he didn't buy to have BKB. Isn't he the same as the SEA pub players who don't wanna buy a BKB? LOL, that's like the comment that I have seen in every post pertaining to their match against Team Spirit but even with that, Team Spirit is just as strong as they have always been.

I’m not active on playing Dota2 either but I’m updated on the patches as well as the teams since I’m always watching tournaments. Judging on your comment seems you are way too long outdated on Dota2 since Navi is one of the oldest team that become popular on the Dota2 pro scene.


What year you last watch Team Secret matches because they are not that really strong anymore with their current line-up. They have a good run last year on TI finishing 2nd place but that’s it. They already change roster which makes them back at square one on building strong team.

LGD Gaming vs Keyd Stars ended with the expected score of 2-0. Incredibly boring match. They are similar to Team Spirit games, which destroy everyone without a chance. Now I’m looking forward to the “CIS battle” of BetBoom vs 9Pandas, from this game I expect the most spectacular playoff match, maybe it will even compare with yesterday’s great game Talon.

Too many users believe in the victory of BetBoom Team, one bookmaker shows that 96% users bet on them. I would go against the crowd and bet on 9Pandas with odds of x2.80. Even if they lose the odds look very good at least to me. Going against crowd the smart move, even in our crypto sphere.  ;)

Just like you, after this match I stopped watching Dota 2 matches on stage for a long time. The use of the God Hook bug was incredible, leading the guys to victory. Nevertheless, I advise you to watch the TI where Team Spirit became the champions.
It was an incredible tournament! Unknown guys became champions, although they were unknown to anyone. And all this without using bugs, nevertheless, they had one imba - their faith in everyone who sits next to them on the team.

Crazy scenes as Nouns (the America's last hope) beat Tundra 2-0. Now Azure Ray are absolutely demolishing Entity  with some really strong performance. Spirit breaker seems to be a popular hero this TI. Loads of teams picking him up with mixed results.

Just look at that wombo combo from Nouns (https://clips.twitch.tv/CogentCourageousLemurPhilosoraptor-ATeqUp2XcRq0SFa1). Just perfect! (Twitch clip)

I admit that I am very far behind the Dota 2 and about this competition, I almost forgot all the best players in the past and as far as I remember when I was still playing Dota 2 and still following information about this game around 2015/2016 and after that I left this game and only come to place bets at every IT start.

yep, as long as I place bets on TI, I occasionally watch and look for information about several teams and I see that Team Spirit seems to be very strong at the moment and has not even been defeated and its only natural that the bookie favors Team Spirit.

BTW, there are several new heroes in Dota 2 that I did not know about before and several Dota 2 items that have changed names, but what I remember is that I like Invoker. :)

The beauty of TI is that you can watch it without even knowing the players and the past of the teams. Just choose the team that is closest to you, maybe it's a team from a country that is not far from you. That's why I was rooting for Team Spirit in the TI I wrote to you about. Now they are one of the favorites and it is better not to bet on them anymore, because the tournament is full of little-known but promising teams.
 
Invoker is my favorite hero, he hasn't changed yet.
Unless you probably missed his improvements to multiple sunstrikes and meteorites.

TI 12 playoff brackets for reaching the main event.

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I am really looking forward to the Team Spirit vs Virtus.pro, Team Liquid vs Talon Esports. Going to be great showing for who can take the whole thing tho LGD can never really be dismissed.
From the lower bracket i want to see Tundra move forward, they were great till they fumbeled in the seeding round.

For Team Spirit and Virtus.Pro, I am one-sided on this match. Since the start of this TI12, Team Spirit has had a 100% winning rate and it's likely that they'll continue their campaign in the upper bracket with that percentage. I am not belittling Virtus.Pro but Team Spirit is no doubt on a complete high level of Dota 2 this time. And for Liquid and Talon, as long as 23savage won't be bitter and won't do such actions that will likely throw the match, they have a chance against Team Liquid.

The lower bracket is like the bracket that is full of gangsters and only one of them will reign to the finals. We can also think of those losers from the upper bracket going down and that's why it's always the hardest road to the finals so, history speaking, Team Liquid(former Nigma roster) did their way there and proved themselves to be a strong team on their prime. Oh well, that was like a several years ago and they're past their primes these days.

I agree with you, I most want to watch the confrontation between Team Spirit and Virtus.pro. I also have close attention to Nouns, who defeated Tundra with the help of the Witch doctor and the Ogre Magi. TI's games continues to amaze like all the previous ones, I am wildly looking forward to these games, and I wanted them to start as soon as possible. I adore this Dota holiday!

The TI12 group stage was watched by more people than TI11 and the most popular game was Team Spirit vs Shopify Rebellion - at its peak it attracted 748k viewers.  Despite the significantly reduced prize fund, the number of spectators not only decreased, but increased. This is a surprise for me.  :P

Russian Dota 2 streamer with the nickname "NS"  released a music about Gabe Newell (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6OMK8gCCOQ) in which he asks to improve the balance and DPC seasons  :D

It sounds impressive, but unfortunately, in any case, after the confrontation between Team Spirit and Virtus.pro in the championship, in any case, one of the Russian teams will be rejected from top places. I much prefer watching matches between teams from different parts of the world.
It’s surprising that more people watched TI12 than TI11, because today I watched an interview from pro players about how there seemed to be no soul in this TI, and they were upset that there was no feeling of celebration. Apparently this does not affect their games in any way. This is amazing.

Why it would really be having no soul? Because of Prize pool? This isnt the only thing that sparks out someone on playing Dota or this tourney just for the sake of that but also it would really be that for the glory on proving out themselves that they are the best of all those teams that currently existing on dota scene.It is really just that it turns out that this years battle pass and accumulation isnt really just that something that valve that really  get used to focus on or on whatever the plans that they do really have in mind. In every year then there's really that a significant growth in terms of number of players and the people who do see around.
Not everything would really be that just basing or depending on the money or prize pool but this is something that would be talking on whose the best and despite of being low in terms of prize but doesnt mean
that teams would really be losing up their will to fight for the top spot. This is the main thing that on every dota players and supporters  that been eyeing on no matter what would be the pool or prizes that connects into it,
it doesnt really just that circles around with that area.

For sure Spirit Breaker will receive a nerf in the next patch along with Muerta after this tournament. Currently Spirit Breaker is the highest win rate among the top 10 most picked heroes in this tournament.With Octarine, Shadow Blade, BKB, and Aghanim's Scepter – now your Spirit Breaker is unkillable and unlimted skill like youre playing demo with Free Spell checked. Haha
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Watched Game 2 between Azure Ray and Entity, Entity was about to make a comeback if Spirit Breaker (played by Gabbi) hadn't died solo. This situation provided Azure Ray with an opportunity to end the game early.

If we take the top 10 most chosen heroes, then I like everyone except Vengeful Spirit, because we could often see her on other TI's. Don't forget Chaos Knight, who closes the top 10 most chosen heroes. His winning percentage is even higher than Spirit Breaker, even though he has one less game. A staggering 65.38%! These 3 heroes are in for a nerf.

At this TI12 they will announce a new hero and, as usual, they will make him stronger than the other heroes so that everyone will play for him like they did with Muerta. It’s quite logical to do this every time so that users get used to new heroes. On the other hand, don’t make him weak, then who will choose him.

Agreed to this, I watch the game when Team Spirit use this here against Shopify. The carry hero can’t do anything on the clash once target by Spirit Breaker due to unlimited push while he can result immediately using BKB or SB.

That greater bash skills is too OP with the current buff on damage scaling per speed. This is the favorite hero of collapse which can give a game changing result with just one clash while he is still farming. You’re right that this hero will be nerfed soon since the charge speed and bash is too pesky that makes him effective on all aspect of the game(push, gank and team fight).

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What match on the Upper Bracket that you think will result to upset match? I’m thinking about Talon beating Team Liquid this time unless 23Savage will still do early celebrate while the match is still on.  :D ;D

VP vs Team Spirit. The team in red hot form, Team Spirit seem to be in danger. Spirit lost game 1 and honestly, for game 2, I like VP's draft. it's gonna be interesting if Team spirit does lose 2-0 after looking unbeatable in the road to TI.

VP is putting on a real fight! Did not really see this coming. I think we will see a game 3. I am expecting them to win the third game but still a really stron gplay by VP. - OMG THAT GAME 2 END!
As for other games i think winners will be Liquid, LGD and maybe AR (tho im not really sure on this one, games gona be a tossup)

They are playing superb right now and also the draft on map 3 is looking solid as both Spectre and WK are having a mega patch right now with both of them being super hard to take down during a fight.

True! That ending on 2nd map was not so easy to watch as I had a bet on Spirit 2nd map :)) and when I saw Larl and his Puck diving near Tier 4 towers and die ...I said to myself that there is no way Spirit wins anymore but once again Yatoro proved he is still one of the best carries in Europe and maybe in the world.

Team Spirit survived a well-spirited effort by VP. Somehow Team Spirit showed vulnerability in the series while LGD Gaming showed somewhat a flawless performance over 9 Pandas. Liquid also dispatched Talon in the upper bracket, the dark horse in this tournament. It will be very exciting to watch as powerhouse Liquid faces Team Spirit will face off next.

Meanwhile, in the last series of today, Azure Ray the other Chinese team did a short work on nouns in game 1. Would love to see nouns bring something different in game 2. The winner of this series will face LGD Gaming.

Looks like that prediction aged well :D

As for the upcoming games. Im realy not sure who takes Liquid vs Spirit. Maybe Liquid has an upper hand but you never know with Team Spirit. I can see it going to 3 games however.
LGD vs AR should be pretty set, LGD should have no issues taking them on. From lower bracket i think both Talons and Virtus Pro will move on. Hard to say about others, they showed a very lackluster performance.

Standings after Day 1
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Upcoming games. It's lower bracket time!! No more chances in TI, if you lose, you are out.

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The 1st round on the Upper Bracket is very predictable since most of the winner are the heavy favorite.

I won’t put Team Spirit as underdog against Liquid since their last match on the Riyadh Master Finals was a disaster against Liquid. Team Spirit is very strong on this TI and they have a chance to 2-0 Liquid on their upcoming match.

Agreed on LGD beating AR because AR rarely won against LGD even on their local tournament.

Yes, no one expected that Team Spirit would receive such strong resistance from Virtus.Pro, and such strong resistance that many began to think that Team Spirit would not be able to win. This was noticeable in the odds changing from match to match. Bookmakers already after the first map began to give almost equal odds for the victories of both teams!
Nevertheless, Tim Spirit was able to control his emotions and show an incredible level, especially Yatoro playing Muerta, and then Sven.

What is Shopify doing? Such a disappointment. First game with Willow on RTZ, never really got it going and then game 2 with Morph while giving away SD and Kasane's special Lycan who has 70+ win % on his 2nd most picked hero. Lycan, Luna, Snap.. just push way too hard and there's Mag with a big ult to save, incase things don't go as planned. TSM advances and sets up a date with Nouns.

The International 2023 Playoffs — Day 2 Standings. Unexpected Nouns make it through.
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Such a bad performance by Shopify Rebellion, i was expecting way more from them. I expect Talons and VP to win their respective matches and both to move on. That match should be REALLY fun! After the VP vs Team Spirit game i would give the edge to VP tho, they certainly have the potential.

Virtus.pros were definitely very strong and I think that now they believe in themselves, even if they lost to Team Spirit. But they realized own power. Everyone has already realized that Magnus, Kunkka, Bristleback, Spectrum, Baratrum are very strong in the current meta. It is not difficult to notice that these are heroes with the Strength parameter, and now the teams have seen this and will adjust their peaks to this.

Well, there is very little time left before the Tundra - Entity match, and we will find out who the will play against VP...

Awful performance indeed and a disband might be the correct way for the org but also for some players because in my opinion , RTZ lost his touch and he no longer plays or adapt to modern dota. Second reason would be that Bulba drafts have been bad lately but the chemistry between players is no longer there.

Talon series is very rough as BB just won their series and will play in aprox 4hours from now.

I think you are correct about Rebellion. It feels like they might do better if they dispand and try to find other teams where they have more chemistry.
Also i did not see Talon loosing to BB! Now we get BB vs VP :D I dont really even know who to bet on that one because its russian dota vs russian dota, you never know what happens there.

It was just incredible matches from Virtus.pro!
I was very happy for them and glad that they won Entity.
Kiritych simply could not be stopped in the games on carry, his Templar Assisin with a rapier seemed invulnerable, and Chaos Knight like a locomotive ran over the entire team of the Entity. The Virtus.Pro team is strong and complex, and I think many will now think about betting on them. Their path now resembles Team Spirit when they won the International.

Their draft is a big trash while RTZ keep playing like an old turd that’s why they keep losing. The rest of the team is doing good while their carry is the one they are carrying on late game. RTZ is always the bottom of the cores on most of their game and it’s a clear sign that he is not meant for carry role already.

About Talon being beaten by BB, They already have a chance to secure the 2-0 on game 2 but they rush the high ground and multiple error from Mikoto and buy back without any goal which is why BB manage to recover. Talon can win the game if they become patient on high ground since 23 items is already unkillable that time if only his team mates will position better.

I don't expect Shopify Rebellion to win the series against TSM but I want them to win at least one map because I bet on them winning at least one map for Shopify Rebellion. Even if either TSM or Shopify Rebellion wins they won't be a match for the Noans. Gunnar has been playing very well in this tournament and has been carrying the entire team. They just couldn't manage to win against Azure Ray but they are definitely a top 4 team in this tournament.

I have no words with BB, they're better than Talon in terms of decision making. It's true that Talon just have to finish the game with that Dark willow carry of 23 savage but they're too salty when they get in to the mid tier 3 tower when they can take it slowly just like what they've done at the top of just pushing little by little and then destroy the tower. Those little decisions and mistakes turned the table that made BB did a come back.

That unkillable dark willow was already on point and already like immortal but it only has to take 1 mistake and 1 second of cool down and that's when they get in to the tier 3 mid tower. Very squishy and that muerta free hit all over all of them. Jabz was too salty and crazy together with 23savage, all of their efforts were wasted and they have to go home with that regret with the mistakes that they've done.

One thing for Shopify Rebellion, sadly, they're just an overrated NA team.

Talon game 2 mistake kinda lost their self confidence since they almost close the game while they have in complete advantage while they blow up the huge lead just because their support and cores got cocky on rushing the high ground.

Not only Jabs but Mikoto Rikimaru of Mikoto is one the main reason why BB recover since he always caught off guard due to his greediness while he can just patiently wait to caught Muerta off guard to give space for 23 to free hit which they failed to deliver until the end.

aaaand we are back!!! TI main stage is here. 2 teams will be eliminated today and the rest will make it to the final 6. Gonna be some good Dota action today. Who are you expecting to make it through?

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I'm actually sad for Liquid as I had them as my favorites in this TI but Zai really made a bad draft and Blitz didn't help at all with that pick on Puck for Nisha so I think GG simply outdrafted them and then automatically outplayed them.

Also , did anyone saw the reaction of Matu after Liquid got eliminated ? He simply rage quit commentators table and left the building  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Outplayed and outdrafted, that's simple as it is. Although their start was very enticing after beating GG but then it's not enough since it's a best of 3 series. GG could be the next old Team Liquid that will go through all odds on the losers bracket? It's simply telling that they're going to beat every enemies that they're going to be playing with.

Matu has still that heart for Team Liquid and he's with the boys on his last TI run before the retirement. It's just full disappointment on his end and that's understandable. This is what's good on this esports, it's not just all about the prize, the game, the play but also the heart that everyone is putting in to show their passion for it.

Final day is HERE!!!

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Gamin Gladiators vs LGD is ongoing. Who are your TI champions?

Kind of misled about your comment here, Gladiator vs LGD is just the finals for the lower bracket. Whoever wins in the lower bracket will meet the TS in the grand finals of the tournament.

Currently watching the game of GG vs LGD, game 1 was a very close game but LGD kind of outdrafted with only Luna dealing descent damage from the chinese team, however they've got a chance to comeback but GG killed Luna without a buyback. Now on game 2, feels like it's a one sided game against LGD, their heroes are more of late game, unlike the GG that can be gods in early and late. I'm rooting for GG vs TS in the grand finals.

Who's your pick, TS or GG?  ;D

Indeed the finals are up on us! I am still kind of surprised that GG is the one that made it through and are facing Team Spirit in the finals. Will be interesting to see CIS vs EU Dota :D
i think i dont even have a favourite in this one, will just watch for the love of the game.

LGD has been dropped and beaten up by GG so easily which i could say that Chinese teams cant really show off their dota plays with GG which it turns out that they've really just that been played out so easily.
We can see on how GG did beat up AR and then LGD next which it do really shows that it isnt really that a challenge specially with their drafts which we could say that it is really that out of meta.
Now on that Game 2 of LGD vs GG then Quinn QOP is really that giving that big contribution on disrupting LGD positioning because of that good sonic waves and also that last clash
on which they have those mistakes made by the chinese team on which there's a nice RP with Magnus but ended up by Naga to have that song which it totally disconnects that overall combo which
it is really that a crucial mistake and this what makes this game closed down easily.

Now we are seeing GG vs TS on the finals then i would really be rooting for GG, but lets see on how TS would really be able to adapt out on how GG would be playing.
Totally excited for this finals which we know that TS and GG team are indeed the strongest among the bunch. Both teams are really worth to be called champions.

Team Spirit is just too strong. A 3-0 streak for lifting that aegis. I thought that the 3rd game will be GG's but it's not. Drachyo was the problem and maybe he's already exhausted with all of these games. They've been with the most matches on this playoffs coming from the lower bracket and maybe he's just caught up with that. But I don't think that's really a problem because the thing here is, Team Spirit is just too strong. They're on their prime and all of their games were consistent, hands up to them. The team is well coordinated and that's why the matter of playing with synchronization and communication can change the result of the game. Having said with the last game, it seems that they're about to lose because GG has got the momentum but there is something wrong with them because they can't even take advantage of their lead. While Team Spirit is taking their recovery, yatoro's ck and collapse's spirit breaker has always been consistent with their farms despite the situation isn't favorable to them. We've got now another 2-time TI champion, Team Spirit although they've got a replacement of their roster but only one coming from TorontoTokyo to Larl. Larl also did well, he's even the one to lift the aegis because the other 4 has already lifted theirs in the past. Well done, this TI is now done and we've got a new hero Ringmaster. I am waiting for more tournaments again although it's not going to be TI this time, but there are more to come before this year ends. And the most awaited one, the gossips for most teams and switching of roster and players/teams.

Thats a very good summary of it. Overall Team Spirit had an amazing run dropping only 2 games so congraz to the champion. GG did really well also, i guess currently it was way too much to ask them to win over Team Spirit, they have been way too dominant for that. Overall the meta was decent aswell, just 4 heroes saw no play.

I do also thought that game 3 would really be on GG but it turns out they didnt close up the game early and did really make the game more longer and giving up more space and time for yatoro to farm which we do know that if we do speak about pos1 carry then we do know that this guy is the best among the rest. Leave him on a few minutes then those main items are already that been formed and came out on the map which it would really be making out that surprise. I do also commend on Collapse did really make big contribution in overall 3 games and to those supports including Miposhkas treant. Providing vision even on just walking on the trees
does really give out that huge advantage when it comes to vision plus having that Spirit Breakers annoying skills on game 3 which did make that kind of tilt. GG is good but wont really be that enough
on taking down Team spirit. Just like been said that when it comes to execution of skills and good communication in between members then you could really see that they could really be able to play in harmony or synchronized manner. There's no error you could see, although there are some mistakes but it is really just that minimal. Decision making and smart plays is really that crucial on which
TS did really deserve that back-2-back champion same as OG.

I'm glad that GG went against Team Spirit honestly. I don't know what would have happened had LGD won the elimination against GG. Pretty sure the games will still go Team Spirit's way, although how bad the results are for LGD is something else. On the 3rd game, that's when I thought GG had that game in the bag and they might post at least a win on TS, but lo and behold they shifted their momentum right when their backs are pressed against the wall and got that ball rolling with Collapse's Spirit Breaker.

Also, I don't know why tOfu picked Muerta 3 times. That kind of became predictable with their lineups and became easily countered in team fights. While the hero has a lot of potential in the early game, she becomes kind of useless as the game progresses and when used as a support. GG's pick patterns became similar to the TA-Tidehunter combo that Kuroky loved to run before, which became an easy puzzle to solve by their opponents later on.

If LGD had reached the grand final against TS, it would have been an even worse final, TS would have simply destroyed LGD, and their curse of losing in the grand final would have been repeated for the 3rd time. After this, I would have retired and not returned to the game.

Muerta was overrated at the end of the tournament, her win rate in the main event was only 40% with the largest number of games among the other heroes. Teams learned how to counterpick it and, of course, playing it 3 times was a mistake. GG should have looked towards Chaos Knight, who has 40 games throughout the entire tournament with a win rate of 67.5%, which is a lot. In any case, I liked this TI12 and I will remember it for a long time, I especially liked teams such as GG, VP, 9P.

Come to think that there's 2 chinese teams that do able to hover out themselves until the few spots on top ranks in overall in the tournament on which we do know on how far do able for Azure Ray and LGD did able to reach out but they do always choke but still a good run for them but there's always a better team against them. Im not saying that they arent that good but GG would really be that always superior even if they had just some rough time on dealing with opponents on lower bracket but they had sustained it out and beat each on of them. We do see that they do be able to beat up Chinese teams just like that those teams are composed of kids or simply the game did really jus that ended up too fast.

TS is really just that so good and ahving that huge heropool on which whenever there would really be counterpicking then it wont really be that a problem considering
that they could really be just simply picking up some hero which it iusually that  goes out into those meta picks on which this what makes them
unbelievable or amazing.

In general, it came as a surprise that 2 chinese teams took places in the top 4. Namely Azura Ray, who were assembled from old players and without serious organizations. They didn't have the tension that exists among teams. Somnus showed a really strong performance on Necro. But I didn’t like AR’s behavior at the end of the meeting with BB, when at the end of the 3rd map the chinese wrote "question marks" (?) in chat and something like “you’re not good enough” to one of the players.

Having a huge pool of heroes increases the chances of winning, so teams need to train in order to achieve high results. And don’t make mistakes like some players who haven’t played a hero for almost 1 year, but pick him up on the TI and lose miserably.

The International turned out to be interesting and unusual.
Chinese teams were not the same as they always were - they made a lot of mistakes, and their team (for example LGD) was not a single whole, as is often the case with Chinese teams.
But Team Spirit showed the highest level of play, especially Yatoro, whom I will never stop praising. For the first time in the world there was a player with such an impudent, smart, fast playing style. His morphing is a nightmare for any enemy!
It was a great TI.

Yeah i remember that on which typing some "?" after a winning game then it would really be something that could really be that provoking but well they do really ends up on having karma on which they
had been avenged by GG which they had been swept on the floor on 2-0 game as if its like that it is really just like some sort of turbo game. lol

We can see on this vid about that Pure's drama with AR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8q5VZe5vTk

Totally that interesting but still no Chinese team for this years TI. They do really lvoe to choke specially on semifinals. hehe

As long there would be Yatoro + Collapse then it would really be just that hard to beat them up. They are really that worthy of 2nd time champion. Wondering if they could 3peat on next years.

I think they themselves would not be pleased after the devastating and incredibly fast games if the GMs wrote them a question mark, it would look humiliating. In this "turbo game" I simply did not recognize the AP, they just looked like whipping boys. I noticed the moment with the handshake. I even remembered the moment with the menacing look of Notile and Flea when they shook hands with Ti in 2018.

If the curse of Chinese teams breaks at any future TI, it will surprise me very much, and will probably turn Dota upside down)

I haven't made a conclusion post as TI12 came to a conclusion about 4-5 days ago. So, Here it is:

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Congratulations to Team Spirit on winning the International 12! Absolutely unbeatable performance from all of their members and Yatoro being a god carry to make them win against a very competitive team in Gamin Gladiators in a clean sweep 3-0.

I still haven't looked at the third map from the final game. The thing is that the final turned out to be spectacular, but there is one thing - Gaming Gladiators simply fell apart after the first game. They are great guys and their style is definitely good, they are the gods of the game and there is no doubt that now their army of fans has expanded greatly. But the finals of the games that took place two years ago kept me on my toes on every map that Team Spirit played against LGD Gaming. And this year, already on the second map, you can see how uncertainly the guys from Gamin Gladiators began to play. And Team Spirit is a well-calibrated machine that does not make mistakes.

Seems like every move is like on what we are seeing on text-books.Right?

Everything is really that synchronized and really that well executed on which even Gaimin Gladiators are really that a strong team considering that they are champions on Majors
but still it turns out that they do really look like kids or really that simply being humiliated.

This years TI might not really that looking good in terms of prize pool but the quality of games that each team is giving is always that spectacular.
Hope that on next year we would really be having that battle pass so that what makes more things to be interesting.