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Title: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Lida93 on November 12, 2023, 09:45:42 PM
During the weekend I was listening to an evening programme from one our the local radio stations they were discussing about gambling, the effects and how to manage it if you might be struggling with  addiction. And they had listeners calling in to share personal experiences or of a loved one that gambles and amidst many callers there was this very caller story that caught my interest and curiosity.

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible  questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: uneng on November 12, 2023, 09:51:31 PM
She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles.
This is so ironical. While many people are gambling dreaming about acquiring enough money to purchase properties and gadgets, this man is selling his in order to gamble... He is going on the exact opposite way he should. Since he already has properties, he should care for them and make them work for him to generate profit and prosperity in his life. Instead, he is wasting everything on gambling, and for what reason? That seems so sick and pointless!

Of course this man needs help, because he is completely out of his mind. His family is trying what they can do help him, and every attempts are valid, in my opinion. They are doing their part to help the young man, although nothing will happen if the man doesn't want to help himself...


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: FatFork on November 12, 2023, 09:56:36 PM
Okay, so if his family doesn't have any real proof from legitimate institutions saying their brother has a gambling addiction, they probably have no legal basis for a lawsuit.  I mean, the guy's an adult after all.  Unless he literally cant make choices for himself anymore he can do whatever he wants that's legal.  It doesn't sound like the casino did anything wrong here.  The brother makes his own choices, even if they're bad ones.  His family might not like that he gambles too much, but that doesnt mean they can blame the casino and  he goes there of his own free will. So yeah without evidence their brother is actually addicted, the family doesn't have much of a case.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Wiwo on November 12, 2023, 10:05:43 PM
Yes, this is an extreme length for gambling and is a case of class addiction to gambling since the whole family is involved in the act and have encouraged the young man with their inaction to stop him from selling personal belonging to fund his gambling,  this is the most evil thing to do,  since gambling has no guarantee of winning and also gambling should just be treated as means of having fun but not to an extreme level were you possibly depends on it to find any part of your life.

So for sure, the families have no case,  because just by declaration that the brother havean  addiction problem alone is not a guarantee since the revelation is made only when he has lost everything.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: alani123 on November 12, 2023, 10:07:28 PM
This is the reason self exclusion must be an enforceable measure! If a family member is causing substantial harm to his peers by exceeding limits over his addiction, then it should be reasonable for his family to try and limit him for his and their own wellbeing as well. But if that person is completely cut off from the family and independent the family should try to become overreaching.

It honestly all depends on the context. There could be legal grounds on the "brother" to also sue and win himself because if he's sand and not putting himself or others in danger while living alone and maintaining a job for instance, then he's not bothering anybody. Gambling down to your last remaining penny is your right, even if it keeps you poor, but so long as you don't become a burden to others by doing it, no matter how degenerate, wasted potential isn't a good enough excuse for a family to try and commandeer your life.

Furthermore, if a problem gambler doesn't realize the effects of his addiction on his own, he'll never get himself out of the hole he's really digging to his own detriment. Value also exists in understanding your own situation after acceptance. You need to work on yourself other than just being restricted.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Silberman on November 12, 2023, 10:12:42 PM
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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!
I do not think the family has any legal ground to stand on when threatening casinos to sue them if they accepted the money coming from their family member, however at the same time I do not think it is too extreme, since it is natural that your loved ones will do whatever they can in order to protect you, even if that means going against your wishes, and when it comes to whether or not share the money, I think that assuming he won he will still have to share some of that money with his family, as they are doing this because they care about him and not because they are just trying to make his life difficult for no reason.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Yogee on November 12, 2023, 10:15:42 PM
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
This is such a weird scenario but I can understand what the family is doing. Can you confirm how young is this gambler? Is he below the legal age to gamble? If that's the case then it's probably not that extreme for the family to ask the gambling shops not to accommodate him and also to uphold the law prohibiting underage gambling.

The family's way of intervening isn't going to last though since that man will be of legal age sooner or later.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Davidvictorson on November 12, 2023, 10:29:30 PM
She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.
Nonsense. The family has no legal ground to sue any sportsbookies. If they try it, the bookies can counter sue them and win a lot of money from the ignorance of the family. Neither the sportsbook, the boy or the family has any signed and written contractual agreement so there is nothing binding them.


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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
This measure they took can never make the boy stop betting. Instead it will increase it because he will want to make money from gambling so that he can get as far away from them as possible for tarnishing his image.

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2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

If I win, I keep all monies to myself. My family has got nothing on me. They have already done an irreparable damage by publishing my pictures and distributing it around without my consent. I probably will never forgive them too.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Oilacris on November 12, 2023, 10:45:18 PM

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

1. It is for your own good and we know that family knows best on whats for you, if they do saw you that you are addicted already too much with gambling then the thing they have done is
just right. They dont really just like that you would really be ending up miserable or mess up your life with gambling.

2. Im not that a selfish person, even if they have been stopping me lately about my gambling urge or activity but still family is family. Money is just a tool or thing
which family cant really be replaced. Of course it would really be sharing up in case i have win significant amount of money.

ACtions made out by your loved ones just to make you stop gambling because they've already seen something bad will not be always a negative thing.
The wrong this is upon you.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: robelneo on November 12, 2023, 10:53:37 PM


Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
It must have been alarming that they've gone to this extreme to stop addiction. when we care for our loved ones we will also go to the extreme so that he will not go from bad to worse, it may not be a good action but they have to think of a way to stop their family members from total addiction although it will haver a bad effect.
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2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gamble within your neighborhood and luckily you won a huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you just stay off from them and live new found wealthy alone?

Share your thoughts!

Even if I want to I don't think they are going to accept knowing that it comes from something that they don't want me to attach myself, but since they are family I will still allocate a portion because after all these bad things we are still family and we have to pass tough times, it will also teach them a lesson that there's still good things that comes out in bad scenarios


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Jemzx00 on November 12, 2023, 10:57:01 PM
Legally speaking, his family did nothing as gambling establishment can still let this man gamble on their casinos even with their warning as they have no legal basis to sue them. Also, his family not only did an extreme action but they also didn't focus on the problem which is their family member whose addicted to gambling. Instead of them fixing this man, they've inconvenience other businesses.

As per your question, (1) they're actions were extreme but they didn't really help him on stopping his gambling activities. (2) If I were on that gambling addict's position and won a huge amount, I would probably help other people and relatives but would end up broke soon due to continuous gambling activity.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Lida93 on November 12, 2023, 11:02:25 PM
She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles.
This is so ironical. While many people are gambling dreaming about acquiring enough money to purchase properties and gadgets, this man is selling his in order to gamble... He is going on the exact opposite way he should. Since he already has properties, he should care for them and make them work for him to generate profit and prosperity in his life. Instead, he is wasting everything on gambling, and for what reason? That seems so sick and pointless!
Gambling addiction is in divers parameters that when you come around some compulsive gambler whose addiction is so intensive you may wonder if they are cursed as a result of how they acting in the opposite direction with their gambling habit.

Just in similar manner some drug addicts behaves in selling their properties to have cash to buy drugs to satisfy their urge that's in same manner some gamblers exercise their addiction too.  Gambling can be an activity for leisure and calm down from stress and at same time it can be harmful if we are not watchful of how we manage our gambling life.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Wexnident on November 12, 2023, 11:04:18 PM
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
Said level of extremes depends on how much an addict a person is. If said person sold his assets and properties to gamble, then you'd better be sure as hell that his/her family would do everything to stop his addiction. Heck, this is already light enough really, would've placed him in some sort/form of house arrest if possible just to calm himself down and maybe find a new hobby.

An addict doesn't share jack, they gamble it all again. Greed is insatiable, and they're always at that point in time where "just one more big win" and stuff like that. Though I guess there'd be some that might move on, those are really in the minority imo. And to add, having a lot of money doesn't exactly remove the idea of being addicted in the picture. I mean, look at some lottery winners who spend their money like water after getting a large sum all of a sudden. I reckon the same would happen to addicts really.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: alegotardo on November 12, 2023, 11:12:00 PM
Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

A person addicted to gambling will always find a way to feed their addiction.
The family's action is certainly valid, as I noticed in their report that they are determined to do everything possible to keep their family member away from the games, but unfortunately it is necessary for the player himself to realize the harm he is causing to his family. and have the desire to change your playing style.
If the player himself is not aware that he needs to change, then unfortunately, all the family's efforts will have been in vain.

It's sad to see how a family can be destroyed by an addiction... and I believe that every casino should take more responsibility for this too, I think that a "black list of addicted players" would perhaps be something useful and effective.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Westinhome on November 12, 2023, 11:16:27 PM

A person addicted to gambling will always find a way to feed their addiction.
The family's action is certainly valid, as I noticed in their report that they are determined to do everything possible to keep their family member away from the games, but unfortunately it is necessary for the player himself to realize the harm he is causing to his family. and have the desire to change your playing style.
If the player himself is not aware that he needs to change, then unfortunately, all the family's efforts will have been in vain.

It's sad to see how a family can be destroyed by an addiction... and I believe that every casino should take more responsibility for this too, I think that a "black list of addicted players" would perhaps be something useful and effective.

The gambling addicted person will d aarnge of the funds in different way in the gambling.They even go the gambling place and make the gambling owner to allow the free game in the offline mode.So the addicted person also get money from their friends and family member in the gambling.The worst part of the gambling addicted person was he get funds from the close friends and their family memebers.So this leads to the mis respect of the good friend by taking loan to their friends family for gambling addiction.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Slow death on November 12, 2023, 11:17:33 PM
Sometimes it is necessary for people to take tough measures to prevent their relative addicted to gambling from gambling, in this case relatives cannot threaten store owners because stores are private properties, store owners can complain to the police and they say that the addict's relatives are putting their store in danger and the addicts' relatives could be arrested. What the addict's relatives should do is the following: they should put the case in court and then the court will schedule a hearing and then force the addicted relative to have an appointment with a doctor and if it is proven that the guy is addicted, then he would be hospitalized

and all the assets of the guy addicted to gambling will be managed by his relatives until the addict is cured. This is where it creates a problem, because the addicted relative will be hospitalized very far from contact with people and this makes him hate his relatives to the point that even when he is cured, he will continue to hate his relatives because the relatives will keep the property. from him. although this is not true, but in his head he thought that his relatives put him in court to keep his money and his hatred could last until death. This is why it is necessary to talk a lot with the addict to reach an agreement


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: AmoreJaz on November 12, 2023, 11:21:46 PM
Sometimes it is necessary for people to take tough measures to prevent their relative addicted to gambling from gambling, in this case relatives cannot threaten store owners because stores are private properties, store owners can complain to the police and they say that the addict's relatives are putting their store in danger and the addicts' relatives could be arrested. What the addict's relatives should do is the following: they should put the case in court and then the court will schedule a hearing and then force the addicted relative to have an appointment with a doctor and if it is proven that the guy is addicted, then he would be hospitalized

and all the assets of the guy addicted to gambling will be managed by his relatives until the addict is cured. This is where it creates a problem, because the addicted relative will be hospitalized very far from contact with people and this makes him hate his relatives to the point that even when he is cured, he will continue to hate his relatives because the relatives will keep the property. from him. although this is not true, but in his head he thought that his relatives put him in court to keep his money and his hatred could last until death. This is why it is necessary to talk a lot with the addict to reach an agreement

that addicted person will always find a way to gamble, maybe not in their area but other places where no one knows him. it may be a tough move from his relatives but i guess, that's not the right approach on this problem.
because if they won't talk and discuss this problem to the person himself, they won't resolve the situation. what they need to do is find a way for the person to cooperate on how to change his lifestyle for the better.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: danherbias07 on November 12, 2023, 11:23:04 PM
1. If you love your family then you can go extreme on ways to prevent him gamble again. It's alright for me and they are doing it for the right thing.

2. It's difficult to put ourselves in the same position as the gambling addict in the story especially if we haven't been on what he went through. Most of us are not gambling addicts here so imagining to be in his position is not an easy thing to do.
Well, if I did win big then I would definitely share it with my family.
But the problem is do we all have the same traditional belief as other people? I don't think so. It's up to him and considering his situation, I really doubt it could be shared because if he can go to the extreme of going to another place just to continue his bad habits then why would he come back if ever he wins a lot of money?
There's a high chance he will keep on avoiding his family just so he can do anything without anyone posting his pictures all over the neighborhood again and prevent his addiction.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: STT on November 12, 2023, 11:50:08 PM
A family shouldnt have to do this by hand, a court should be able to do as much on a regular basis for any requested people.   Its still not a solution for this person only a delay, if they cant stop themselves they will find a gambling game to take.  Its not hard to just play cards all day and gamble, so he has to find a better solution then closed shops.    Occupy his hands and mind with something  nicer is necessary, I dont know what but often people have hidden talents but lack focus to develop their skills into a profession to do well by.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: o48o on November 13, 2023, 12:11:33 AM
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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!
I am not sure where in the world this happened but it certainly wouldn't fly in here. Those gambling places would basically be holding an illegal register, even if the register contains one person.
Not even bars can have pictures of banned people, they will just have to remember them. Also it's far from effective, and might have worked 100 years ago when regulations were looser and moer people used to know each other in the same village or city.

Like you said, all you need to do is change the scenery and play in somewhere else. Or just play online. If the person wasn't grounded and offline, there's only so many ways to restrict them. Better way would be convincing them not to gamble, and find them something else to do. Something else to fill their time with.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: retreat on November 13, 2023, 12:32:56 AM
Nothing went too far, what his family did was because they loved this man. He sold his personal assets and it destroyed him slowly because his gambling activities were too excessive. What his family did was right to prevent him from going too far.
However, we don't know what will happen in the future, whether it will get worse or not, because from the many cases like this, usually these addicts will get worse the more they are prohibited from gambling.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: klidex on November 13, 2023, 01:01:53 AM

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

1.) First of all, the family's goal is actually good, namely to stop his brother from gambling excessively, especially as his brother sells his property and gadgets to satisfy his compulsive gambling desires again and it seems like his brother has spent so much money even to the point where he had to sell his property, this of course made his family very worried about his actions.

2.) If that happened to me, maybe I would still share the gambling proceeds with the family I love because after all my family's objective are good but the method is too excessive, but I will only share a little of the winnings after that I will leave the house and live in an environment that allows me to gamble in peace.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on November 13, 2023, 02:35:19 AM
      -  I'm just wondering: is it really necessary to threaten the casinos that will accept their families who have a gambling addiction so that they will find a way to close it down?

That's how I understand it. Let's assume that what the gambler's family is planning is true. Why does it have to lead to such a situation? Also, if I am in the situation of a gambler who wins a large amount of money, if my family is not important, I may not be able to give them what I won from gambling.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Oasisman on November 13, 2023, 02:56:18 AM


Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

Here's my 2 cents.

1. Yes, the family went too far trying to control this young man's compulsive gambling behavior. I don't know how they approached all the gambling establishments in their place, but based on this story, they went too rude to threaten these establishments. That's not how you properly escalate the situation when you're trying to engage the gambling establishments. The family can just hand over a photo of the young man and ask the establishment in a nice and calm way that if it's all possible they should never allow that young man to enter the establishments, then continue with the story why. Pretty sure the people from the establishment will understand.

2. Depends. Firstly, you ran away from your family just to feed your gambling behavior, then you come back handing them over money for forgiveness? That is a big NO NO for us. If this family has a strong behavioral principles, they will probably believe that forgiveness cannot be bought. So, better stay away for a while, make an attempt to contact them before you decide to come home and ask for forgiveness genuinely, then you can go ahead and share that fortune you made. 


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Hirose UK on November 13, 2023, 02:56:58 AM
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
I think yes and when there is prohibition or advice that is too harsh to suppress then he will be even crazier in gambling because gambling addict cannot be directed to extremes and it is better to advise him slowly.
Moreover, threatening methods like that will never produce results because there is definitely not just one gambling shop there, plus when the state allows gambling then no one will be able to sue for something like this because the shop owner is in business and the young man came by himself.
It really ridiculous to hear about this kind of case.

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2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
It all depends on how they behave towards us because if they are too loud and really offend us then whatever happens they will definitely be quiet and not care.
But again, this kind of thing depends on the attitude of all family members and those of us who are gamblers ourselves because if we still consider the importance of our siblings and family we will definitely never leave it.
Having family destroyed just because of gambling, I don't think is the right thing to do because after all family is everything.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Odohu on November 13, 2023, 02:57:53 AM
She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.
This is a wrong way to go about this because it can damage his self esteem and damage his name entirely within the neighbourhood.  People in this situation might resort to suicide. What they need is to seek the help of a psychologist. With proper therapy,  he will be fine. Besides, he does not need to go to shop to gamble, he can just create account in any of then numerous platforms.

Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible  questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.
Moving away will not help his situation rather he will be frustrated the more. Like I said before, what he need is therapy and urgently for that matter.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
They were trying to help him but using wrong approach. People have passed through such situation and were treated. Shaming him is never a solution to issue of addiction because that cannot make him stop.



Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: lienfaye on November 13, 2023, 03:19:00 AM
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
Yes because they're already threatening the gambling shops which I think is not right. Although it's understandable why they resorted to this kind of solution, maybe this is the only way for them to stop the young man from playing.

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
I will still share my winnings. Family is family and that's the fact. They might be against me being a gambler but I can understand that they're just concern. Winning huge is an achievement for a gambler so I will try. But I have a doubt if they will going to accept the money that came from gambling knowing their stance.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Pandu Geddon on November 13, 2023, 03:41:46 AM
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
that was truly an exaggeration. it was like committing a murderer who was in pursuit of the police. but I know that it is a response from a family who loves their relatives. Although I think it's quite excessive, it might have an impact on the gamblers themselves. although I'm not sure he will play in just one place. It's just that, if his family treats him more harshly, it could be a negative sentiment for the gambler's mentality.

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
they are against us to gamble. If you want to share your winnings with others, I don't think they will accept that. what is clear is that his family's view of gamblers must be very bad. and they will think that the money they earn from gambling will not make them happy.
if I get that win, then I will enjoy it myself.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: len01 on November 13, 2023, 05:43:18 AM
first of all, the young man family efforts are understandable but worth doing because after all gambling is a business providing a place for entertainment and all risks are not the gambling party fault but the young man himself should be blamed because he alone has full control over whatever he does and as a family the young man should have given strict education to the young man or taken him to a doctor who could cure him of this addiction and his family efforts would only be in vain because despite posting photos of the ban in all the casinos in the city, the young man could bet through online sites which are now very easy to get. accessed.

and for the second question I would never do something stupid like that even though I have to assume if that young man were me I would not disappoint my family.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Kakmakr on November 13, 2023, 06:06:31 AM
Well, the parents cannot stop him from using online gambling from his mobile phone, so this is one way of bypassing his or her parents plans to stop the gambling. (They can take his or her phone, but he or she can have another phone or use a friends phone to gamble)

I think they should address the main reasons for the addiction in a professional manner. They should take this person to get professional help from someone that can deal with gambling addiction.  ;)


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Litzki1990 on November 13, 2023, 09:02:37 AM
First of all family is something that people cannot really stay away from. You can't get family love through money. The family may have put various barriers in the boy's gambling to prevent him from gambling in the best interest of the boy, but it does not mean that the family wishes him ill. He might win millions of dollars by gambling now but if he had lost gambling then his family would not have kicked him out but his family would have taken him in. The person you heard about on the radio may have become addicted to gambling, which may not have been well-received by the family, and the family may have prevented him from gambling. Now that man might be a million dollar owner and if he thinks about this and walks away from his family, I'd say he's acting selfishly. The family supported the boy when he had nothing and the family raised him from childhood so no matter how much money he owns he must stay with the family.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Solosanz on November 13, 2023, 09:22:20 AM
If I understood the context, it's a married couple and the wife force her husband to stop gambling, right?

Since it's a spouse or loved one, I'd choose to share my winnings to her in purpose to "shut her mouth", most people will let their spouse to do anything as long as it gives benefit to her/him.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Docnaster on November 13, 2023, 09:23:29 AM
One thing a lot of people fail to understand is that whenever they're being corrected is the fact that it's only someone who loves you that can go extra in their quest to make you change from your bad and unfruitful lifestyle. From the context of the story, it's absolutely clear that the young man is already a gambling addict hence the extra action from his family members to try stop his addictive gambling life.
There's no guarantee that he's gonna win big tomorrow in gambling and I think what his family wants for him is to be a better person tomorrow. It'll be better to adhere to his family's advise and desist from gambling than traveling to a distant location in other to gamble and make it through gambling.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Weawant on November 13, 2023, 09:26:34 AM
Definitely its very possible the young man could relocate or find an alternative way to continue with his gambling habit since he is an addict already. The family is only trying to help because Cases of addiction as this is usually very tough tackling and does require help most of the times.

If I were that young man and I happened to win millons of dollars after absconding far to continue gambling I will definitely rerun to my family and have them get a fair share of my proceed because i understand they were only trying to help me out of my addiction after which I will go seek professional help since at that point I can be sure to afford it, because some how he may not be comfortable in that habit of his but because he is optimistic he keep on hoping one day it will rewards him.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: demonica on November 13, 2023, 10:07:28 AM
The effort they put just to go to near casinos and to threaten them not to let him gamble there. But I don't think it's effective cause (1) he can still go to a different casino far from their neighborhood. (2) casinos may do something against it or might not follow them since it's a business after all. For them he's a customer and a source of their income. (3) he could shift to online gambling wherein the kind of effort that the family did won't work on online casinos.

It won't give them a guarantee that he won't be gambling again cause once a person becomes addicted to something, he will keep finding a way to satisfy their addiction. Instead of going to different casino and threatening them, for me it's better to consult an expect or seek for a professional's help. And might as well consider rehabilitation.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Blitzboy on November 13, 2023, 10:10:21 AM
Though severe, the family's method shows a desperate desire to help a loved one. Combating gambling addiction requires understanding its causes as well as halting the activity. The family's dramatic action is motivated by concern. Does this method respect individual autonomy? Could the activity go underground, making it tougher to address? Finding balance - supporting without violating personal freedoms - is key.

If I were the young man who won a lot of money gambling abroad, sharing it with my family would depend on various circumstances. Understand the relational dynamics and intentions underlying their acts. Are they concerned or trying to control? This win, albeit financially lucrative, doesn't eradicate the addiction or its causes. Sharing the winnings could repair relationships. But personal recovery and addiction treatment are equally important. Balance is key - weighing family ties against personal growth and healing.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Yatsan on November 13, 2023, 10:17:18 AM
Based on the cited scenario, i only disagree with posting the picture of the young one. They should have just talked to the management privately ‘coz for sure casinos would be scanning each and every player who would enter the facility. That would be enough to notify them of what is happening. Some people say that the boy could move to other cities just to be able to gamble which has a point but how would he be able to do so if he would be lacking money to travel? That’s the point; the family could have just monitor the child or hire someone to accompany him most of the time or simply bring the child to experts to know what’s best to be done if they cannot restrict the young individual by themselves. I do get that the family might be frustrated of the situation but they should still consider the welfare of the child who is in need of them than to unconsciously shame him.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Queentoshi on November 13, 2023, 10:23:08 AM
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
No they did what they must have reasoned to be a way to stop their family member from gambling but he could still gamble online. Families can go the extreme to protect their own. This family should also taking the boy for rehabilitation.

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Take your money and live your family, some families tend to forgive overtime. If gambling was the way God planned for you to make millions, then it has happened, you did not kill someone for the money, or steal from someone. You just took some risks that has paid off. If they do not understand at the moment, they will understand later.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: rahmad2nd on November 13, 2023, 10:33:32 AM
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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

Firstly, we cannot be sure how far the man went in his gambling. however, based on the instructions you mentioned in this post, the young man has become a gambling addict. in fact, had lost the property he owned. In this case, this man was really addicted to his gambling. It will be very difficult with this kind of trick to prevent someone from completely stopping their gambling activities, although in some cases the impact can be positive. but even then, it's only limited to gambling shops. It could be, this man plays at an online casino.

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

Interesting question, and a little unique for me.

Honestly, the answer will be very varied and difficult, because there are many factors to consider. first if I were that guy, then win millions of dollars. not necessarily, my family will receive the money that I share with them. moreover, they found out that I was still gambling. What is certain is that various reactions will arise. they could be more disappointed even though in the end we become rich. Or maybe, our family will be tempted by the money we win. This is where the human psychological situation will be tested.

and to be honest, I can't answer your question. because, I'm not that guy and what we discussed has never happened in my personal life. The logic is simple, we don't know what the situation will be when we have millions of dollars in the account. there will definitely be many possibilities, and you have concluded it yourself from your question.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: michellee on November 13, 2023, 10:40:30 AM
The young man could go to another city for many reasons to gamble. As compulsive gamblers, they can do things that are beyond our reason. They can even move to another city for the reason of wanting to find a new atmosphere. In fact, that is one way for them to be able to gamble again without anyone watching.

This young man's family has done something we didn't expect because he wanted to do something different from the others. This is courage that needs to be appreciated because it could embarrass the young man from gambling in his city. But he was able to move to another city secretly so he could gamble again.

If it were me, I would share the winnings with people I care about. But if they don't want to, I'll enjoy it myself. I don't need to force it on them.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Natsuu on November 13, 2023, 10:51:26 AM
For me it feels like the family went a bit overboard with the whole distributing-the-photo-to-gambling-shops move.  It doesnt feel like family at all. I get they want to help, but it might not be the most practical solution. Addiction is tricky and putting a face on it doesn't always solve the deeper issue. Maybe a more supportive and professional approach could do the trick.
So, if I hit the jackpot while sneaking off for a gamble, I'd probably use the cash to sort out my gambling mess. I will help myself first and will prove my family wrong by helping them too. It's like turning the whole gambling fiasco into a chance for a fresh start and maybe some better vibes with the loved ones.Sounds hard but not impossible.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on November 13, 2023, 10:53:40 AM
The young man could go to another city for many reasons to gamble. As compulsive gamblers, they can do things that are beyond our reason. They can even move to another city for the reason of wanting to find a new atmosphere. In fact, that is one way for them to be able to gamble again without anyone watching.

This young man's family has done something we didn't expect because he wanted to do something different from the others. This is courage that needs to be appreciated because it could embarrass the young man from gambling in his city. But he was able to move to another city secretly so he could gamble again.

If it were me, I would share the winnings with people I care about. But if they don't want to, I'll enjoy it myself. I don't need to force it on them.
The possibility for this to happen is high. As stated, the guy was selling his personal assets to provide for his gambling. The guy may go to another city to continue his gambling activities or find a chance to gamble online instead. What the family should also do is talk to the guy and make him understand that he needs help for being addicted to gambling. And to the man who is addicted to gambling is lucky that his family still cares and can do such a thing to at least have him stop gambling activities.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: coin-investor on November 13, 2023, 12:08:08 PM


Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
What they did will hurt the reputation of their brother but they must have seen how the brother disobeyed them and that he would not listen to them anymore so they have gone to this extreme to ask the establishment for his brother to be excluded, the shame of one is the shame of the family so they have no recourse but to go to this extreme.

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2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
If they agree to accept the money coming from gambling that they hate then the family has no principles, so I prefer not to give them for fear that they will shame me again but I will allocate a portion for them so in the future when everything goes well between us, I can give them a part of my winnings, family is family in the end they should sympathize with each other in times of needs we only have a family to help or bail us.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: swogerino on November 13, 2023, 12:24:33 PM
During the weekend I was listening to an evening programme from one our the local radio stations they were discussing about gambling, the effects and how to manage it if you might be struggling with  addiction. And they had listeners calling in to share personal experiences or of a loved one that gambles and amidst many callers there was this very caller story that caught my interest and curiosity.

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible  questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

I must say this guy is not the smartest of them,selling his wealth to gamble is plain stupid from a logical perspective.It is much better to rent those properties if he cannot manage them or sell them in order to build something new,some new business out of those money.

The compulsive gambler can do the worst of the extreme and moving to a far remote area is something easy to do when you have that enough money to spend.The family is responsible for him to teach him proper education and to tell him that gambling over the long term can bring bad consequences.For me the family is the best agency of education and in the end the fault is only theirs.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Oilacris on November 13, 2023, 12:48:23 PM
The young man could go to another city for many reasons to gamble. As compulsive gamblers, they can do things that are beyond our reason. They can even move to another city for the reason of wanting to find a new atmosphere. In fact, that is one way for them to be able to gamble again without anyone watching.

This young man's family has done something we didn't expect because he wanted to do something different from the others. This is courage that needs to be appreciated because it could embarrass the young man from gambling in his city. But he was able to move to another city secretly so he could gamble again.

If it were me, I would share the winnings with people I care about. But if they don't want to, I'll enjoy it myself. I don't need to force it on them.
If you are that someone whose really that totally addicted and compulsive to gambling then you would definitely be that considering on going into other town on which you do know that you could really be able to play but since you do still have that respect into your family then you wont really be tending to go into other places just for the sake of gambling. If you are a person who do really love to revenge into those people who had despise you or really have that bad look into you then  you would really be not that minding even if they are a family but well majority of us would really be giving out that kind of importance specially into your family. In case you do win something big then sharing up would really be your first action to be made. Its never been that ideal on being that loving on taking up some revenge just because they are really that stopping you on doing gambling, bare in mind that they are really just that doing this because they do love you.
They've seen something that shouldnt really be done or simply they are really that in concern, sometimes it might be that too much but better to understand on their concern.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Crypt0Gore on November 13, 2023, 01:28:52 PM
It's a big shame if you condemn something and because of money you later accept it, many people are this shameless today, and they aren't ready to hide it, they have no sense of honor or discipline, I have hated some crime ways of making money in my past and that's because it's wrong, yet it makes many pellet to be rich but I stood on my ways, when its a no let it be a no even when things are looking shiny for them.

If you believe that gambling money is ill gotten money then do not take money from anyone that's into gambling, I have seen such habit only from religion fanatics, they take everything too seriously and who I am to say that they are wrong? Maybe this is an escape for them to at least not end up doing the same thing?

Everyone has their own weak points and strong points too, for many to avoid doing bad things they use hate, I know fathers that disown their children because of gambling but generally it's for their own good, but understanding really matters, if your kids found a way to be a reason responsible gambler they are in safe hands, leave them be.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Viscore on November 13, 2023, 01:47:50 PM
I don't think the family has gone too far from threatening the casinos and sue them once they have allowed their family member to gamble. It's an initial reaction from a family and if they can't stop him from gambling and selling all his properties, probably talking to the casino shop owner is the last option. However, this is not enough reason that they will sue the casino for that, they can only do that if they can prove that the casino has been performing against the rules and is creating their own rule for their personal aims and goals.

In addition, to answer the second question, even if your family has not supported your gambling habit all the way, but you can't just easily erase the fact that family will always be a family. The one you can rely on when everything are turning backs on you. And if they don't tolerate your gambling addiction, that's because they don't want you to end up being harmed and homeless. With that, still be thankful for them and share whatever you are capable to share, even if it's the money you won from gambling.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Jody.Drummer on November 13, 2023, 01:54:47 PM
During the weekend I was listening to an evening programme from one our the local radio stations they were discussing about gambling, the effects and how to manage it if you might be struggling with  addiction. And they had listeners calling in to share personal experiences or of a loved one that gambles and amidst many callers there was this very caller story that caught my interest and curiosity.

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible  questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

I must say this guy is not the smartest of them,selling his wealth to gamble is plain stupid from a logical perspective.It is much better to rent those properties if he cannot manage them or sell them in order to build something new,some new business out of those money.

The point of view or logical thinking must always be done in any case, especially when we are solving a problem, none other than because it is with a healthy and logical mindset that we will be able to find the right solution to overcome everything. With this then I can already conclude that those who are willing to sell their wealth just to gamble then they are one of the people whose brains and minds are abnormal and disturbed. That's a very appropriate statement for stupid people who are willing to spend everything they have on a place that only relies on luck and there is no guarantee for them to recover or return or even get a bigger amount for the large capital they are willing to spend. Yes that's right, in this case I do see that the middle way that should be done if they are no longer able to manage their property assets then it is better to rent it out or sell it to someone else, that way you will get money for sure every month or year when a tenant pays rent for the property you have, it's better and more reasonable.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: slapper on November 13, 2023, 02:02:46 PM
The young man could go to another city for many reasons to gamble. As compulsive gamblers, they can do things that are beyond our reason. They can even move to another city for the reason of wanting to find a new atmosphere. In fact, that is one way for them to be able to gamble again without anyone watching.

This young man's family has done something we didn't expect because he wanted to do something different from the others. This is courage that needs to be appreciated because it could embarrass the young man from gambling in his city. But he was able to move to another city secretly so he could gamble again.

If it were me, I would share the winnings with people I care about. But if they don't want to, I'll enjoy it myself. I don't need to force it on them.
Moving cities to gamble indicates compulsive gambling in the young man. Moving won't heal this dangerous addiction. Online gambling is risky and addictive regardless of location. The gambling itself, not your location, is what matters. Sharing wins is lovely, but let's be sensible. Big wins in internet gambling are rare. House odds are favourable. Thus, winnings sharing is a fiction. If loved ones don't want to participate, they're probably wary. They know gambling is risky and addictive

This requires a broad perspective. Gambling harms gamblers and their relationships. Understand gambling's effects, not just the possible gains. I'd tell him, "Treat the addiction, not move. You must make responsible decisions and comprehend how your actions affect others and yourself." The fundamental issue is that


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: stadus on November 13, 2023, 02:07:56 PM
~~~threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.


This doesn't make sense----how can a gambling shop be sued for letting people play? They're a business, and winning is essential for their profitability. They welcome anyone, regardless of whether the gambler has a problem or not. Threatening legal action against a gambling shop could have serious consequences for the addicted gambler's family. They might end up being counter-sued and have to pay damages. It seems like they don't fully grasp the situation, perhaps out of desperation.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: alastantiger on November 13, 2023, 02:13:50 PM
You cannot help a person who doesn't want to be helped. Absolutely nothing you can do. Even if you go for therapy, the therapist will tell you that. The best the family could have done was to put in in a situation where he would see that gambling addiction is damaging and can ruin his career. If I were the boy and my family treated me in that manner, they would probably not hear from me again for a long time to come. I would hate them for life.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Jawhead999 on November 13, 2023, 02:14:46 PM
For me it feels like the family went a bit overboard with the whole distributing-the-photo-to-gambling-shops move.  It doesnt feel like family at all. I get they want to help, but it might not be the most practical solution. Addiction is tricky and putting a face on it doesn't always solve the deeper issue. Maybe a more supportive and professional approach could do the trick.
I believe his family already warn him and gave many advice in order to stop gambling, but he's stubborn and keep gamble, this way his family did this. If he's really mad because his family is try anything to stop him to gamble, he could move to other city and no one can disturb him.

I think the better way is make sure every of his assets use his family name, it could be his wife, mother, father etc. So whenever he has spent all of his money, it will not give a bad effect to his family.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Westinhome on November 13, 2023, 02:17:45 PM
It's a big shame if you condemn something and because of money you later accept it, many people are this shameless today, and they aren't ready to hide it, they have no sense of honor or discipline, I have hated some crime ways of making money in my past and that's because it's wrong, yet it makes many pellet to be rich but I stood on my ways, when its a no let it be a no even when things are looking shiny for them.

If you believe that gambling money is ill gotten money then do not take money from anyone that's into gambling, I have seen such habit only from religion fanatics, they take everything too seriously and who I am to say that they are wrong? Maybe this is an escape for them to at least not end up doing the same thing?

Everyone has their own weak points and strong points too, for many to avoid doing bad things they use hate, I know fathers that disown their children because of gambling but generally it's for their own good, but understanding really matters, if your kids found a way to be a reason responsible gambler they are in safe hands, leave them be.

You had totally against your family mate,seems you had suffered a lot from your family memebers.It’s true some family will not respect the people who not earning their family even they are elder person in the family.So the same was changed once they become the rich person by the hard work,but in gambling this type of type of the gambler will get rich using the luck to the game.Many family members was against the gambling because of the religious practice of their family.Some other people will start to criticise you based on the money holding by you,when you don’t have enough money.They will started to criticise you why you doing gambling at less financial condition.So our victory alone the good answer for them.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Die_empty on November 13, 2023, 02:19:20 PM
Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!
I will not conclude that the family went to the extreme until I know their past efforts to make him become a responsible gambler. I don't know the pains, financial losses, and disgrace that the family has suffered because of this young man. If sending his picture to a different in-house gambling location will help to reduce his addiction then the family did the right thing. They love him and know the best for him, so this action was to help him and not to disgrace him. But he could easily switch to online betting without restrictions.

If he is sensible he would know that selling his property to gamble is abnormal. He also recognizes that family members took those drastic actions because they care and are concerned about his well-being. I will gladly share my wins with them because they care. And such money should be maximized so there is no need to move out of the house. I will still stay with my family to cut costs and ensure the win is invested accordingly.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Sanugarid on November 13, 2023, 02:33:10 PM
I understand his family why they acted like that and for me it's only natural because they are worried and really care for that young man. They want to protect it from any harm even if you think what they are doing to you is going against everything you want to do.

If I were in his situation and assuming that I won a large amount in gambling, I think I would still share the blessing with my family because it is certain that even if that is what your family did to you, you would think that they only did it to protect you.
You don't need to harbor anger or resentment towards your family just because of that.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: coupable on November 13, 2023, 02:38:34 PM

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

1. The family chose an exaggerated solution that cannot be beneficial in any case. Store owners are not required to take into account the privacy of each player because this is not their responsibility at all. I am sure that the family took this option as a desperate solution after all attempts to recover with their son, who seemed to be going through his worst state with gambling.
2. I consider this question very personal and there cannot be one right answer and one wrong answer. Every person has a nature of his behavior that differs from others, and if you want to answer the whereabouts of the young person whose family was seeking to help him, you must determine the nature of the family members and the relationship of each member of them with him.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Razmirraz on November 13, 2023, 02:45:15 PM
She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles.
Actions that had reached beyond the limits of the young man began to receive a negative response from his family because his addiction level had reached a high level. The personal items he sells to cover his gambling activities have attracted the attention of his family, especially as his emotional level continues to rise when he has no money to gamble. There are many ways that families can do to reduce their brother's level of addiction, they can take him to work or do other activities to reduce the time for the young man to gamble.

So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.
His family had acted unreasonably if they discovered their brother was gambling and then took the owner of the gambling place to court on the grounds that he was supporting his brother to become a compulsive gambler. The reckless actions that the young man's family will take are very baseless.
Firstly, the owner of the gambling place did not specifically invite the young man to gamble at his place, secondly, the young man had his own desire to gamble. In this case there is no reason to sue the owner of the gambling place because the actions the young man took were of his own free will.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: AicecreaME on November 13, 2023, 02:47:11 PM
During the weekend I was listening to an evening programme from one our the local radio stations they were discussing about gambling, the effects and how to manage it if you might be struggling with  addiction. And they had listeners calling in to share personal experiences or of a loved one that gambles and amidst many callers there was this very caller story that caught my interest and curiosity.

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible  questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

I know that's their way of helping their loved one that's been addicted in gambling, and I'm happy that they were trying and doing whatever they can to help him. However, for me it isn't really a form of help that is for the long-term. Eventually, the gambling addict will find his way to continue gambling and to sell things that he can so that he can sustain his lifestyle.

An addict will find his way eventually to continue betting and playing without them even noticing at first. They are very creative and very secretive, so it will be a hard one if their brother decides to move to other places. With this, they can't put any restrictions anymore. While it could help on the first few weeks to keep him off casino establishments, it won't last for long. Threatening the casinos for suing isn't really applicable and legal if I'm correct since a person who's an addict is still capable of thinking and should be given his human rights. And that includes deciding on his own. Unless he is a minor or a mentally unstable person, then guardianship can be applicable.

1. It's inappropriate, for me at least. This is because as a grown up man you can make your own decisions, including whether continue or stop gambling. If they really want to help, funding the rehabilitation and treatment might do more help than giving flyers and threatening casino establishments. Afterall, addiction should be cured from the roots, not just eliminating the external factors. Although it could help, it will only be temporary.

2. It will depend on the person if he will share his winnings or not. It's his right after all on what to do with the money. Other people cannot impose not control. Unless of course you are indebted to them since you have to pay your dues.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Spaceman1000$ on November 13, 2023, 02:51:29 PM
During the weekend I was listening to an evening programme from one our the local radio stations they were discussing about gambling, the effects and how to manage it if you might be struggling with  addiction. And they had listeners calling in to share personal experiences or of a loved one that gambles and amidst many callers there was this very caller story that caught my interest and curiosity.

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible  questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!
If a gambler has gone to the point of selling his belongings to get money so he can bet, then that has gone extreme. Whatever measures the family is putting forward to caution him not to continue betting, is a welcome development, because his becoming a chronic gambler, that's not a healthy gambling Lifestyle.
Even if he wins million of dollars, it will still not amount to anything, because of his unhealthy gambling lifestyle.
A professional gambler will always check his addiction level, to create a balance and healthy gambling Lifestyle.
for his family to paste his photos on the gambling shops around his neighbourhood, shows that the way his going about it, it's not responsible anymore.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: 0t3p0t on November 13, 2023, 03:08:25 PM
The gambling establishment or site is for me not liable for any violations regarding the guy who's family is desperate in over protecting him. It is not the gambling establishments fault but the gambler itself specially if they were compliant to the local regulations and permits. That is really alarming since the member of the family that gamble sold his properties just for gambling purposes. Gambling addiction really has nothing to good to bear.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Casdinyard on November 13, 2023, 03:18:11 PM
Honestly, if I were the family members of this young guy, I'd literally disown the guy right there and then, or perhaps if I'm feeling a little remorseful, throw him in a rehabilitation center so he can get himself checked and recover if still possible. Most addictions are brought about by the compulsion and the access to such compulsions anyway so if we literally have them locked up so they can't do what they want to, they're sure to recover. Now if things go south and it really came to the point that even rehabilitation is a lost cause, I won't go out of the way to embarass myself or my relatives and would actually just disown them, it's way easier than that, completely absolves me of every other crime that this person's going to commit as well, of course I'm going to have him be investigated by the police or something along those lines just to make sure he doesn't do anything stupid.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Russlenat on November 13, 2023, 03:24:39 PM
You cannot help a person who doesn't want to be helped. Absolutely nothing you can do. Even if you go for therapy, the therapist will tell you that. The best the family could have done was to put in in a situation where he would see that gambling addiction is damaging and can ruin his career. If I were the boy and my family treated me in that manner, they would probably not hear from me again for a long time to come. I would hate them for life.

The family is treating the person as if he can't make decisions for himself due to his severe gambling addiction. They're concerned because his gambling habits have escalated to the point where he resorts to stealing to sustain his addiction. While it's commendable that they care for their family member, taking matters into their own hands by visiting gambling shops and threatening legal action if their relative is allowed to gamble seems excessive. It's a personal issue within the family, and the primary goal of a gambling establishment is to facilitate bets and run a profitable business. As long as there are no regulatory directives instructing them otherwise, they have the freedom to accept bettors and pursue opportunities to increase their income.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: madnessteat on November 13, 2023, 03:24:50 PM
~snip~

I heard a similar story about loans. One guy took unsecured loans and his mother had to pay for him by giving him the last of her money. She ended up writing on his passport "no credit! He doesn't work anywhere!". I don't know how true these stories are, but they make you think.

I wouldn't call it extreme measures. I believe that if a gambler has crossed the line and his addiction is causing problems for the family, then any methods can be used to help him. Up to the harshest - for example, put him in jail or send him to a monastery for 1-2 years. I know that life in a monastery can change a person beyond recognition.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Lida93 on November 13, 2023, 03:32:54 PM
She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles.
Actions that had reached beyond the limits of the young man began to receive a negative response from his family because his addiction level had reached a high level. The personal items he sells to cover his gambling activities have attracted the attention of his family, especially as his emotional level continues to rise when he has no money to gamble. There are many ways that families can do to reduce their brother's level of addiction, they can take him to work or do other activities to reduce the time for the young man to gamble.

So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.
His family had acted unreasonably if they discovered their brother was gambling and then took the owner of the gambling place to court on the grounds that he was supporting his brother to become a compulsive gambler. The reckless actions that the young man's family will take are very baseless.
Firstly, the owner of the gambling place did not specifically invite the young man to gamble at his place, secondly, the young man had his own desire to gamble. In this case there is no reason to sue the owner of the gambling place because the actions the young man took were of his own free will.
just want to know if you have had any person that's a compulsive gambler. With a first hand experience you would have been careful with your words  in establishing that the family acted unreasonably. Having someone you care for as an addict whether to gambling, hard drugs etc, can be so frustrating that you will dive at any possible chance to restrain him from that which makes him an addict.

At that moment it's what works for you that will be counted reasonable and not what outsiders think to be reasonable for all what you're aimed at is a solution to end the cancerous addiction and I think that was what led to the family to swing into such act. If suing a gambling shop that still allows their brother to gamble in their shop will serve as deterrent to others and also ameliorate issues then for them (the family) it worth it.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Findingnemo on November 13, 2023, 03:36:04 PM
So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Share your thoughts!

First things first, is it not possible to sue the owner for allowing an adult to gamble whether the person is having compulsive behavior or sold the properties of their family to get the money needed for betting.

It is individual responsibility and an extreme family can stop him considering the situation but what can actually happen is if a casino stops a person from gambling when he is legally allowed to play by-laws then the person can sue the casino to milk some money. So all I am hearing is *uck BS stories..!


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: topbitcoin on November 13, 2023, 03:37:05 PM
Anyone would feel worried when one of their family members is addicted to gambling. The initial intention was good, namely to awaken the young man from his gambling addiction, but we need to know that this good intention must be carried out in a good way. Because if it is done in a bad or too extreme way as explained by the OP, it is unlikely that a gambling addict will be aware of the negative behavior he is carrying out and this will only make the situation worse and will destroy harmony in the family.

We also need to know that gambling addicts tend to have overwhelming and uncontrollable emotions, plus they are very irritable. So, when dealing with a gambling addict, we are required to be more patient in reminding and making him aware and this must be done gradually, because for someone to be truly aware of the negative activities and behavior they engage in in gambling, times takes quite a long.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on November 13, 2023, 03:37:10 PM
Is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.
This is will be very difficult for him to do if we consider the fact that addicted gamblers are always broke most of the time, because they would have gambled away any money they had that should be in their hands as savings, Now, i do not mean every single gambling addict out there, but i do mean most poor or middle-class gamblers who are addicted to gambling are usually broke most of the time.

So, if the money the man has with him at that moment is only the money, he hopes to play gambling with, then it will be difficult for him to transport himself to another area entirely since he will need to source new funds for the transportation going and coming back home, except he as his own means of mobility.

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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
For me, they did not go any extreme, the fact that they did this is a show that they love their brother and wants his wellbeing, in some family, such a person will be allowed to gamble and waste away, so, for me, they are just doing the best they think they can do to help the man, they didn't do anything that is extreme.

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2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
There is no need keeping malice with my family as a result of this, they were just trying to help me, if i was or in the man's shoes, what i said is how i will understand it, I will still go back to them and appreciate them for all their efforts trying to get me out of gambling addiction, Afterall, addiction in gambling is not a good thing, or something to be proud of.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Broadanbig on November 13, 2023, 03:57:29 PM
At first the young man should have it in mind that his family loves him and would go to any length or extent to making sure he is free from that addiction. No family would see such happening to their loved one and keep mute over it but I think the family took the wrong step in addressing the situation. Why printing his photograph and taking it right to the casinos around. It is not nice to have done such as far as he is over 18 and has the right to freedom of engagements. They took it too far and that alone can make someone abscond because they might feel threatened with that action alone but however it is not a bad idea for his family to intervene in his situation as that is what any individual who has such person in their family would do.

If it happens that he wins big time, I think nothing stops him from extending a hand of gratitude to his family because what they had done to him is just like a mother trying to protect her child from being vulnerable to attacks. So in that case, If I were to be the one in his position of winning, I will make sure I extend hand of kindness to my family.



Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: AbuBhakar on November 13, 2023, 04:09:15 PM
The gambling establishment or site is for me not liable for any violations regarding the guy who's family is desperate in over protecting him. It is not the gambling establishments fault but the gambler itself specially if they were compliant to the local regulations and permits. That is really alarming since the member of the family that gamble sold his properties just for gambling purposes. Gambling addiction really has nothing to good to bear.

The problem is how the judge will look into this incase the family indeed sue them. The betting shop knew the fact of the early warning which is a bit dangerous as a business since you allowed compulsive gambler play while you know it already.

Yes betting shop really have no responsibility to their players if they are legal age but sometimes the court use different approaches on handling cases like this especially if the victim suffer huge losses in the process. But the family really need to lock their member instead of attacking the betting shop that is just doing business.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Promocodeudo on November 13, 2023, 04:17:01 PM
OP, I love what you shared, this thread is very good, I hope to see the views and comments of many of us here solving the problem of many of us in terms gambling, the action of this gamblers family might seem so strange and extreme to some people, but for me, I just understand their mindset was to help their brother whom the see, that's going astray in life, to me anything that can be done to help an individual that's an addict in gambling should be done with immediate effect as long as such step does not affect his life in any way.
If eventually the person in question goes extra mind by going to another location to gamble and fortune follow me, he should not forget that his family was trying to help, if they don't like him they won't threaten with such statement of sueing any person that goes contrary against their decision as a family, what his family did should not stop him from helping them if they need it.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: slapper on November 13, 2023, 04:39:58 PM
At first the young man should have it in mind that his family loves him and would go to any length or extent to making sure he is free from that addiction. No family would see such happening to their loved one and keep mute over it but I think the family took the wrong step in addressing the situation. Why printing his photograph and taking it right to the casinos around. It is not nice to have done such as far as he is over 18 and has the right to freedom of engagements. They took it too far and that alone can make someone abscond because they might feel threatened with that action alone but however it is not a bad idea for his family to intervene in his situation as that is what any individual who has such person in their family would do.

If it happens that he wins big time, I think nothing stops him from extending a hand of gratitude to his family because what they had done to him is just like a mother trying to protect her child from being vulnerable to attacks. So in that case, If I were to be the one in his position of winning, I will make sure I extend hand of kindness to my family.


The family's love and care are clear, but what is their plan? Not sure about it at all. Even though the person who sent his picture to casinos meant well, it was against the law, especially since he is over 18. Even though the act is meant to protect him, it actually takes away his freedom. There are good goals tangled up with actions that aren't clear.

Online gambling is appealing because it is easy to get into and gives the impression of being simple to win. It is a digital trap that is both tempting and dangerous. If he gets a lot of money, he wants to keep gambling even more, not less. Things keep going in a bad circle. Even though his family's actions aren't perfect, they are a desperate attempt to break this loop.

If he gets a lot of money, thanking his family, even though they went too far, is a sign that he understands the mess of feelings and intentions that are going on. It means admitting that love can make people do things that are more safe than useful in the messy and often wrong world of relationships. This is life: it's complicated, messy, and human.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: arimamib on November 13, 2023, 04:52:40 PM
The gambling establishment or site is for me not liable for any violations regarding the guy who's family is desperate in over protecting him. It is not the gambling establishments fault but the gambler itself specially if they were compliant to the local regulations and permits. That is really alarming since the member of the family that gamble sold his properties just for gambling purposes. Gambling addiction really has nothing to good to bear.

The problem is how the judge will look into this incase the family indeed sue them. The betting shop knew the fact of the early warning which is a bit dangerous as a business since you allowed compulsive gambler play while you know it already.

Yes betting shop really have no responsibility to their players if they are legal age but sometimes the court use different approaches on handling cases like this especially if the victim suffer huge losses in the process. But the family really need to lock their member instead of attacking the betting shop that is just doing business.

This case is the reason of why many the betting shop / sites have limits for gamblers to put. in some countries, those limits are required for the shop to have legal status. this is one of many ways to avoid addiction for the gamblers, and to avoid unnecessary cases. There are also limits for losses experienced by a gamblers for a certain duration time.

Betting Shop / sites who dont put those limits are usually untrusted or even illegal shop / sites, because it can be considered as institution who are not responsible for things that potentially happen caused by their business.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: God bless u on November 13, 2023, 04:57:58 PM
As his sister took a strick step against his brother who is a gambler I think if he is a loyal person then he will not gamble again but a compulsive gambler never think about his family so I don't think that a gambler will leave the city just because of gambling in new area but first he will tortured his family and after doing all possible tries he will then leave that area but a compulsive gambler is a  distress for his family always.

A family always support his brothers and sons but if a gambler never think about his family then everyone wants to live a satisfied life and no one wants that his life become full of sorrows. I think everyone should focus earlier on their children because once a person starts gambling then whatever parents teach them they will never understand. If someone thinks that if he starts gambling then he will become rich then he has a wrong concept because gambling can turn your whole dreams into a life where you will just burrow money from others but will unable to continue your own happy life.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Broadanbig on November 13, 2023, 04:58:20 PM
At first the young man should have it in mind that his family loves him and would go to any length or extent to making sure he is free from that addiction. No family would see such happening to their loved one and keep mute over it but I think the family took the wrong step in addressing the situation. Why printing his photograph and taking it right to the casinos around. It is not nice to have done such as far as he is over 18 and has the right to freedom of engagements. They took it too far and that alone can make someone abscond because they might feel threatened with that action alone but however it is not a bad idea for his family to intervene in his situation as that is what any individual who has such person in their family would do.

If it happens that he wins big time, I think nothing stops him from extending a hand of gratitude to his family because what they had done to him is just like a mother trying to protect her child from being vulnerable to attacks. So in that case, If I were to be the one in his position of winning, I will make sure I extend hand of kindness to my family.


The family's love and care are clear, but what is their plan? Not sure about it at all. Even though the person who sent his picture to casinos meant well, it was against the law, especially since he is over 18. Even though the act is meant to protect him, it actually takes away his freedom. There are good goals tangled up with actions that aren't clear.

Online gambling is appealing because it is easy to get into and gives the impression of being simple to win. It is a digital trap that is both tempting and dangerous. If he gets a lot of money, he wants to keep gambling even more, not less. Things keep going in a bad circle. Even though his family's actions aren't perfect, they are a desperate attempt to break this loop.

If he gets a lot of money, thanking his family, even though they went too far, is a sign that he understands the mess of feelings and intentions that are going on. It means admitting that love can make people do things that are more safe than useful in the messy and often wrong world of relationships. This is life: it's complicated, messy, and human.
Indeed family is love. No one cares much about you more than your family hence family is love. I understand the situation from both sides and they are very much correct in their own actions. In as much as the young man is 18 and above,he has the right to freedom and engagements which is not against the law but that singular action alone could even make it worse by him going solo which would be very dangerous this time because they might think he has stopped it by it would be worse than it was. Sometimes it is not the plans but the approach used in tackling the situation that matters.

Of a truth I know and believe he would say a big thank you to his family if it happens he wins big because I believe he is matured enough to know that his family meant well for him.by taking such steps to curtail his gambling life.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 13, 2023, 05:10:30 PM
If I were that young man, I would not move to another city to gamble because it would definitely cost more money during the trip and it might also be dangerous if we could win a lot of money. It's better for me to start reducing my gambling activities than to see my photo plastered in every casino, which will definitely make me embarrassed.

But the young man's family went to extremes if they really wanted to spread the young man's photo to every casino in their city to ensure that each casino did not receive visits from the young man and would not allow him to enter their casino. It seemed that the method was completely different from the previous methods, so perhaps it could work to prevent the young man from going to the casino and gambling.

And if I could win the million dollar prize, I would definitely share the money with my loved ones and celebrate with them.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Cookdata on November 13, 2023, 05:16:01 PM
She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

They don't have that right to sue the gambling shops, the guy in particular is above 18 and in law, as long as you are above 18 years old, you have a free will to take a decision and nobody will question you for that action if it's not a stolen money he use but even in the case where he used a stolen funds, he is the one they can sue for such action but if the brother is minor, it's very wrong for the shops to let him play in the first place.

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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

That is not the best way to abstain a grown up man for addiction, it will be very wrong for the community to even see his pictures everywhere like an ex convict, you will not be happy if you see your family disgracing you in that manner because you love gambling so much. They should have take him to see a therapist instead.

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2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!


Well, it depends but I know for sure that people don't reject money. Family is blood and blood is family, no matter how they wrong me, I will still help them because I can't see them in bad condition while I enjoy money in one location, sure I will be happy to help if I can do it.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: gabbie2010 on November 13, 2023, 05:18:26 PM

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!
From my own point of view the family did the right thing just to prevent a situation whereby when the gambler ended up bankruptcy he is going to fall back to his family, of course he might ended up frustrated after being bankrupted such that he might not be in his usual self again "prevention is better than cure" it's better to curb his addiction earlier to avoid touching stories.
If I eventually win big in gambling sharing out of the money won to loves ones is necessary despite their opposition to my gambling activities afterall the action they initial took is to prevent me from getting addicted based on the consequences of being a gambling addict.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Agbe on November 13, 2023, 06:43:10 PM
This an interesting story. Gambling addiction can only stopped by the bearer of the armor and no any other person be a lover or a family member. Someone also created a thread that if a gambler can stop if his wife ask him to stop and if he will not stop gambling she will leave him. As for me all those things are just a threat to an addicted gambler. Those things will never move him. But if he wants to stop, he will stop without someone's influence. Stopping gambling addiction is a drastic decision that a gambler must take. As for me they should not force him to stop because it will worsening the situation. But they can use a polite way for him to stop it. If they print his photograph and pasted it around the betting, will they do the same to all the casinos online? They are just wasting their time. They should allow him to gamble and only advice him to stop.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Lanatsa on November 13, 2023, 07:27:39 PM
At first the young man should have it in mind that his family loves him and would go to any length or extent to making sure he is free from that addiction. No family would see such happening to their loved one and keep mute over it but I think the family took the wrong step in addressing the situation. Why printing his photograph and taking it right to the casinos around. It is not nice to have done such as far as he is over 18 and has the right to freedom of engagements. They took it too far and that alone can make someone abscond because they might feel threatened with that action alone but however it is not a bad idea for his family to intervene in his situation as that is what any individual who has such person in their family would do.

If it happens that he wins big time, I think nothing stops him from extending a hand of gratitude to his family because what they had done to him is just like a mother trying to protect her child from being vulnerable to attacks. So in that case, If I were to be the one in his position of winning, I will make sure I extend hand of kindness to my family.


The family's love and care are clear, but what is their plan? Not sure about it at all. Even though the person who sent his picture to casinos meant well, it was against the law, especially since he is over 18. Even though the act is meant to protect him, it actually takes away his freedom. There are good goals tangled up with actions that aren't clear.

Online gambling is appealing because it is easy to get into and gives the impression of being simple to win. It is a digital trap that is both tempting and dangerous. If he gets a lot of money, he wants to keep gambling even more, not less. Things keep going in a bad circle. Even though his family's actions aren't perfect, they are a desperate attempt to break this loop.

If he gets a lot of money, thanking his family, even though they went too far, is a sign that he understands the mess of feelings and intentions that are going on. It means admitting that love can make people do things that are more safe than useful in the messy and often wrong world of relationships. This is life: it's complicated, messy, and human.
Exaggerating kind of action i should say but its not shocking considering that family could really go into such extent if they are really that serious on trying to stop one of the members to get away with such gambling addiction. I dont know about legal actions or whatsoever in connection with it but if this one is really that something that will really be against freedom then they might be having a problem on that but as long
the other party or individual dont make out some complaints then i dont see for possible legal approaches into this one.It is really just that the actions been made is really just that too much on which coming
into a point thatthey would be needing to print up a family members face and trying out to scatter and say things accordingly.

Its true that it is really that indeed possible that he could go out into that other place and do make some gambling thing if he wanted to but he choses up to stay and do deal up with the current situation.
The family arent aware that if he cant do it physically then there's always a way that he could be able to gamble online on which it is really that more hard to be stopped.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: darkangel11 on November 13, 2023, 07:55:02 PM
The gambling establishment or site is for me not liable for any violations regarding the guy who's family is desperate in over protecting him. It is not the gambling establishments fault but the gambler itself specially if they were compliant to the local regulations and permits. That is really alarming since the member of the family that gamble sold his properties just for gambling purposes. Gambling addiction really has nothing to good to bear.

I agree. It's such a big deal because he's a gambler, but what if he was an alcoholic? Would every store be liable if he manages to buy alcohol there? Of course not!
It's not their job to look for him and stop him from entering. It's the family's job to go to court and limit his freedom by placing him in an institution, as they do with drug addicts, alcoholics, mentally ill people.
The problem here does not lie in gambling, but his mental state. The man is obviously mentally ill and needs to be healed, even if it's against his will, because otherwise he'll eventually be forced to steal and that will land him in jail at the expense of the taxpayer.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: bitzizzix on November 13, 2023, 08:27:41 PM
Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!
In my opinion, there is nothing excessive about the actions of this young man's family. Maybe they think that is the best way, even though according to other people there are still many subtle ways including involving the law, but most likely it is the best way in their opinion and for the good of one of their family members. And they also don't want the young man to lose all his possessions with nothing left, even his life if the family doesn't act according to what they think is right.
What we need to know is that there are still many people who commit unreasonable actions for the sake of their loved ones because they think it is the best thing they have ever thought and planned.

And I will share it with the people I care about even if they forbid or oppose my gambling activities, because I can't enjoy what I enjoy if my family doesn't enjoy it too.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Finestream on November 13, 2023, 08:59:54 PM
It's normal for your loved ones to give extreme care most especially that they are your family. They knows what's good and bad for you. And if it means threatening the casinos so they won't let you gamble on their shops, then they will surely do it without hesitation so they can protect you from the danger that this gambling addiction may cause. That's what a family can do even if you see it they have gone too extreme just to protect yourself.

Now if you become lucky and made life changing profits with gambling, are you still supposed to help them? Of course, yes! At the end of the day, the rest of your friends will leave you most especially when you have no money anymore, but your family will stick by your side regardless if you have nothing to give to them. So prioritize helping your family above other people.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: BitcoinPanther on November 13, 2023, 09:03:26 PM

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

I think the family has the right to help their members to recover from gambling addiction.  They have the right to request gambling establishment to ban their addicted gambler member in entering their premise.  I do not think that there is any extreme measure in protecting a family member especially when that person is already addicted in gambling.

The action of the family can be said legal depending on the country's law but mostly if there is a request and yet the owner of the casino continuously disregard the request of the family, the family can file a case against that casino but the success of the case is still dependent on the factors and evidences.

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

Why not?  It is already given that if we love our family, we should share any blessings or profit we get.  Whether they are against my gambling activities or not should not even be the case to forbid us from sharing.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Quidat on November 13, 2023, 09:03:56 PM
Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!
In my opinion, there is nothing excessive about the actions of this young man's family. Maybe they think that is the best way, even though according to other people there are still many subtle ways including involving the law, but most likely it is the best way in their opinion and for the good of one of their family members. And they also don't want the young man to lose all his possessions with nothing left, even his life if the family doesn't act according to what they think is right.
What we need to know is that there are still many people who commit unreasonable actions for the sake of their loved ones because they think it is the best thing they have ever thought and planned.

And I will share it with the people I care about even if they forbid or oppose my gambling activities, because I can't enjoy what I enjoy if my family doesn't enjoy it too.
Family knows best and it would really be just that right that they would really be doing things no matter how far the extent it would be as long they could be able to help one of their members specially that gambling addiction is a problem on which it cant really be that easily be resolved out once it would shackled you on. This is why it would really be that not a right thing for you to get mad
if you are in the shoes of that particular boy which is on legal age already and tends to gamble. If you dont really make out those kind of behavior in the first place then
your family wont really be that ending up with that kind of approach on which you would really be that be still free and not restricted as of this moment but since they've seen
different then it is really just that a normal act to be done by them.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: rachael9385 on November 13, 2023, 09:25:26 PM
During the weekend I was listening to an evening programme from one our the local radio stations they were discussing about gambling, the effects and how to manage it if you might be struggling with  addiction. And they had listeners calling in to share personal experiences or of a loved one that gambles and amidst many callers there was this very caller story that caught my interest and curiosity.

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible  questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!
Even if the families of the young man did what they did just to stop the man from gambling, then I would say they are trying to help the man, since the gambler can not control himself from gambling, even to the extent of selling their properties to gamble. That means the man had gone too far in terms of gambling, so if the family of the so-called gambler did not do anything about it, then they are endangering their lives because a day might come when the gambler will go outside his area to steal and come back, then gamble with the money.
The family didn't do anything bad, even though they went too far in it. They were trying to protect themselves and their brother, who's an addicted gambler.
However, there has been a topic that quote A Nigerian Father Rejects Son's Gambling Win (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5453794.0), so it is not the first and this can not be the last of it.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Accardo on November 13, 2023, 09:50:48 PM
The family went to some certain extent to help their ward, but that won't be so effective, even if they published his face on famous TV shows. He'd find his way to gamble in a more private manner. Your number 2 question, OP, determines the reaction of the player when in possession of huge amount of money. If he loves his family, nothing stops him from showing them love after making it big in gambling. Especially to teach them that gambling can be good in yielding wealth. But, the reaction of his family isn't conducive by any way because it won't help the player to stop being a compulsive gambler. They're multiple ways of building relation with a friend or brother who is following the wrong route in gambling. They need to create an internal emotional relationship with him, thereby discussing with him about his difficulties and why he's chosen to be such a gambler with little or no regards to the bad effects it brings to his family. Better still refer him to a therapist, that will keep him busy by interacting with him. Embarrassing him in such a way isn't helpful. To me it's embarrassing to publish his pictures all over the neighborhood. This could cause him to be depressed. Friends and colleagues laughing and making mockery of him and the family. I think this will not only affect the boy, but the family members too. Gambling addiction can't be stopped forcefully. Suing the shop owners will only cause them to waste more money; similar to the player using it to gamble. In a nutshell, I don't buy such an embarrassing idea.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: milewilda on November 13, 2023, 09:51:45 PM
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Even if the families of the young man did what they did just to stop the man from gambling, then I would say they are trying to help the man, since the gambler can not control himself from gambling, even to the extent of selling their properties to gamble. That means the man had gone too far in terms of gambling, so if the family of the so-called gambler did not do anything about it, then they are endangering their lives because a day might come when the gambler will go outside his area to steal and come back, then gamble with the money.
The family didn't do anything bad, even though they went too far in it. They were trying to protect themselves and their brother, who's an addicted gambler.
However, there has been a topic that quote A Nigerian Father Rejects Son's Gambling Win (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5453794.0), so it is not the first and this can not be the last of it.
Very normal thing for a family to do such measures and i agree on some post above that they dont really care on what are the steps or things that they'll be doing as long they could help out one of their members.
Family might not be perfect but we do know on whats the best for us, gambling isnt bad but on the time that they've been seeing that you are really that getting addicted too much because they've obviously see you
that become impulsive into your actions like selling your possession or things just for the sake of gambling then this is a solid indicative sign that you are really that addicted to it.

It might really be that looking too much for some people but for me it is really just that right. Doing things for the sake of someones safety or trying out to stop on whats the worst things could happen
will be always be the wise thing to be done in the first place. I wont really be feeling bad about it if i were that boy who had been addicted, you would really be able to
appreciate on what are the things that they've been doing just for your own sake and safety or trying out to avoid the worst things as possible.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on November 13, 2023, 09:59:47 PM
Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
no... Your family may be too compassionate about you and actions like that could prove how much they feel to make you have a good life and most importantly, be successful. No parent would wanna see Thier child squander his funds on gambling excessively - whatever happens, his case is beyond parental control; he needs a therapist..
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2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
I'm not the man and I can't gamble to that level for any reason... I don't even think he'll be that lucky to win such an amount as well.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Assface16678 on November 13, 2023, 10:22:26 PM
Just two :D questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

No, they are right; they don't have a choice but to escalate things. Even if it's harsh or extreme, they have the right to do that. Well, based on your statement, the brother's gambling habit affects them, not just the gambler but the whole family, so of course they need to take action, even if they have to be extreme or whatever. In fact, if they want their brother to stop excessive gambling, then they can force him to go to a rehabilitation centre, even if by force. Yes, it's a bit forceful, but if you want to help a gambler in that state, if he can't be helped with a good way of stopping, then the next option is by force.

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
This question will depend on the person who is answering; there is no right or wrong answer, but for me, of course yes. Why? Because they get affected by my excessive gambling, it mentioned that if he sells their property, then, of course, I will pay them back, but I thought that some gamblers who are too addicted would share their big hit; they might gamble it again, being greedy to earn much more. Like I said, there's no right or wrong answer; it depends on the person.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Juse14 on November 13, 2023, 10:38:59 PM
This is not something we should emulate. Even though gambling is considered a bad activity and can be detrimental, this does not mean that we can stop someone from carrying out gambling activities in a bad way, because this will never solve the problem, but will only increase the problem.

And the analogy is like this, when you invite someone to treat them to food, but you invite them in the wrong way, like "Hey dog... come on, let's eat, I'll treat you" and will that person accept your offer and continue to go order food, I think no and what will happen will be a dispute, because of the person you invited. He was offended by the words you said earlier.

Likewise, asking someone to stop their bad gambling activities, if done in the wrong way, it is unlikely that the person will be able to stop their gambling activities, and in the end it will only end in disputes and mutual hatred towards each other.
However, if this method of inviting is done well, then it is very likely that the person will realize his bad actions in gambling and slowly he will voluntarily stop gambling.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Sakanwa on November 13, 2023, 10:47:29 PM
I think in this part of the world,where gamblers are heavily criticised, especially those from a religious background,they find it very difficult to relate any thing that has to do with gambling with a member of their family,either brother,sister or any of their sibling.They won't try it before the information will get to their parents that they are gambling.And when this type of issue arise in the family,they take it so serious to the extent that they can even punish the child by sending him out of the family,or better still,disown that child.
Some families take this thing so seriously that you begin to immagine whatever gambling is a sin,and this is a question I need to get an answer to.Could gambling be a sin?


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: komisariatku on November 13, 2023, 10:51:31 PM

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

1. I thought it was a very extreme measure and I just found out there was something like that. Maybe the person is so addicted to gambling that his family goes to extremes. I don't know if they have tried using psychiatrists or professionals to break the man's gambling addiction

2. If I were in that person's position, I would choose to share the money if my family would accept the money from gambling and choose to stop gambling because I have won millions of dollars. For me, family is number one and I don't want to lose my family just for the sake of gambling.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Broadanbig on November 13, 2023, 11:06:26 PM
At first the young man should have it in mind that his family loves him and would go to any length or extent to making sure he is free from that addiction. No family would see such happening to their loved one and keep mute over it but I think the family took the wrong step in addressing the situation. Why printing his photograph and taking it right to the casinos around. It is not nice to have done such as far as he is over 18 and has the right to freedom of engagements. They took it too far and that alone can make someone abscond because they might feel threatened with that action alone but however it is not a bad idea for his family to intervene in his situation as that is what any individual who has such person in their family would do.

If it happens that he wins big time, I think nothing stops him from extending a hand of gratitude to his family because what they had done to him is just like a mother trying to protect her child from being vulnerable to attacks. So in that case, If I were to be the one in his position of winning, I will make sure I extend hand of kindness to my family.


The family's love and care are clear, but what is their plan? Not sure about it at all. Even though the person who sent his picture to casinos meant well, it was against the law, especially since he is over 18. Even though the act is meant to protect him, it actually takes away his freedom. There are good goals tangled up with actions that aren't clear.

Online gambling is appealing because it is easy to get into and gives the impression of being simple to win. It is a digital trap that is both tempting and dangerous. If he gets a lot of money, he wants to keep gambling even more, not less. Things keep going in a bad circle. Even though his family's actions aren't perfect, they are a desperate attempt to break this loop.

If he gets a lot of money, thanking his family, even though they went too far, is a sign that he understands the mess of feelings and intentions that are going on. It means admitting that love can make people do things that are more safe than useful in the messy and often wrong world of relationships. This is life: it's complicated, messy, and human.
Exaggerating kind of action i should say but its not shocking considering that family could really go into such extent if they are really that serious on trying to stop one of the members to get away with such gambling addiction. I dont know about legal actions or whatsoever in connection with it but if this one is really that something that will really be against freedom then they might be having a problem on that but as long
the other party or individual dont make out some complaints then i dont see for possible legal approaches into this one.It is really just that the actions been made is really just that too much on which coming
into a point thatthey would be needing to print up a family members face and trying out to scatter and say things accordingly.

Its true that it is really that indeed possible that he could go out into that other place and do make some gambling thing if he wanted to but he choses up to stay and do deal up with the current situation.
The family arent aware that if he cant do it physically then there's always a way that he could be able to gamble online on which it is really that more hard to be stopped.

I think he should know this that for his  family to have gone this extent, they truly love and care about him because if they do not, they would have just left him to his fate of being a chronic and addicted gambler and nobody about it but blood is thicker than water as the case maybe and for them to have gone this extent damning the consequences of above 18 freedom of association against him then he should know whats up. I was thinking this was the only means left for his family to do to scare the casinos as well because merely going there to tell the casino to stop allowing their son in there would do nothing so they had to take extra steps to threatening them class action.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Ruttoshi on November 13, 2023, 11:11:16 PM
2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!
I wouldn't say that because they went extra miles to make me stop gambling due to my compulsive addiction will be an excuse for me not to share my win with my family. The only thing that will make me not is, if I tell them about my win and they claim not to be cool with it, and they start feeling like it is very bad to gamble.

I will give them so that let them not see it that I was wasting my time and resources then when I was gambling, and for them to also know that gambling can make one hit it big. I believe that this will change their mindset on the way that they see gamblers. Although it is not good to me an addict, this is because if you are a gambling addict, your big wins will go back to gambling, since you will not see it as an opportunity to stop gambling.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Nwada001 on November 13, 2023, 11:18:15 PM
2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

Let's not forget the fact that if I were not selling my belongings and using the money to gamble, my family would start disgracing me and calling my name out in public in order to limit my gambling habits. Their attitude might appear to be embarrassing, but they are doing all that to make sure they get me out of that life style.
 
And if, eventually, out of stubbornness, I move out of that area and go far away to gamble, and luckily, I win a big amount of money that will be enough to cover up all that I have spent—I mean, both my properties that I sold out—what I will do is buy back all those accessories first and make them see me coming back to life.
 
And if there is anything that I can help the family with, I will definitely do that. That's if they will accept to eat the money that was won from gambling; if they have nothing against it, then I can't withhold it from them. No matter what, they are my family, and the same way they were trying to bring me out of shame, I can't allow them to suffer when I have the money, no matter the means that I used in making it.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Reatim on November 14, 2023, 02:52:04 AM


She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.
When you say Young Man  meaning underage? if yes then it is His family's decision to what action to do just to prevent their family members be free with gambling addiction.
This may sounds harsh but it is Illegal to allow underage gamblers playing in their gambling shops.
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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!
It is normal to think this is a harsh way but as a family is more concern about their brother and also worried about what could addiction brings to hiM?

and also I'm afraid that the young man will carry his gambling activities far more because spending money to transport in far will cut his capital to gamble and might end Him having no money to deposit.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: klidex on November 14, 2023, 02:57:32 AM
~~~threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.


This doesn't make sense----how can a gambling shop be sued for letting people play? They're a business, and winning is essential for their profitability. They welcome anyone, regardless of whether the gambler has a problem or not. Threatening legal action against a gambling shop could have serious consequences for the addicted gambler's family. They might end up being counter-sued and have to pay damages. It seems like they don't fully grasp the situation, perhaps out of desperation.
even though it was the young man who was judged to be in the wrong and why did his family blame the casino shop for having to sue him?
they only run their business as long as it is legal in their environment, which is a bit ridiculous because the family is too confused about what to do to stop their brother's gambling activities.
even though there is another way that is not too excessive, namely taking it to a professional help center so that you can stop the gambling activity, by suing it will not solve the problem because what is certain is that the shop has more power to sue back because the law only applies if there is money, of course the casino has more power. having more money to be able to prevent the young man family from overdoing things.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Blitzboy on November 14, 2023, 10:15:36 AM
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Even if the families of the young man did what they did just to stop the man from gambling, then I would say they are trying to help the man, since the gambler can not control himself from gambling, even to the extent of selling their properties to gamble. That means the man had gone too far in terms of gambling, so if the family of the so-called gambler did not do anything about it, then they are endangering their lives because a day might come when the gambler will go outside his area to steal and come back, then gamble with the money.
The family didn't do anything bad, even though they went too far in it. They were trying to protect themselves and their brother, who's an addicted gambler.
However, there has been a topic that quote A Nigerian Father Rejects Son's Gambling Win (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5453794.0), so it is not the first and this can not be the last of it.
Very normal thing for a family to do such measures and i agree on some post above that they dont really care on what are the steps or things that they'll be doing as long they could help out one of their members.
Family might not be perfect but we do know on whats the best for us, gambling isnt bad but on the time that they've been seeing that you are really that getting addicted too much because they've obviously see you
that become impulsive into your actions like selling your possession or things just for the sake of gambling then this is a solid indicative sign that you are really that addicted to it.

It might really be that looking too much for some people but for me it is really just that right. Doing things for the sake of someones safety or trying out to stop on whats the worst things could happen
will be always be the wise thing to be done in the first place. I wont really be feeling bad about it if i were that boy who had been addicted, you would really be able to
appreciate on what are the things that they've been doing just for your own sake and safety or trying out to avoid the worst things as possible.
The family intervenes, interferes, and takes severe but necessary action. Like lifeguards, you're in the deep end, unaware you're drowning. They draw you back, and it feels like an overreach, like their care consumes you. Ain't that their job? How about treating gambling like sports? Train for it, set rules, have a game plan. Risks should be low and game friendly. Imagine a family event where everyone watches out for each other to avoid falling. Would that work? Can responsible gambling be gamified?

What if you're that man who went too deep? You'd understand after seeing your mess, right? You'd observe your family's frenzied moves differently. They were battling for you awkwardly and desperately, not just nagging. Though late, appreciation will be high. And maybe, just maybe, you'll join the lifeguard squad yourself next time.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: sokani on November 14, 2023, 10:31:14 AM
Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
Yes, the family took it very far. Imagine if the young man finally stops gambling and later sees the photo of him being used as memes on social media, also people around him could use it to mock him. Not cool if you ask me, the family would have sought for other methods and I don't think this is even effective as he can go to a very far neighborhood and gamble.

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
A life-changing sum? Most persons would be angry that their family treated them harshly and would not want to share the winning with them, which in a way is justifiable.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: rachael9385 on November 14, 2023, 10:32:04 AM
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Even if the families of the young man did what they did just to stop the man from gambling, then I would say they are trying to help the man, since the gambler can not control himself from gambling, even to the extent of selling their properties to gamble. That means the man had gone too far in terms of gambling, so if the family of the so-called gambler did not do anything about it, then they are endangering their lives because a day might come when the gambler will go outside his area to steal and come back, then gamble with the money.
The family didn't do anything bad, even though they went too far in it. They were trying to protect themselves and their brother, who's an addicted gambler.
However, there has been a topic that quote A Nigerian Father Rejects Son's Gambling Win (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5453794.0), so it is not the first and this can not be the last of it.
Very normal thing for a family to do such measures and i agree on some post above that they dont really care on what are the steps or things that they'll be doing as long they could help out one of their members.
Family might not be perfect but we do know on whats the best for us, gambling isnt bad but on the time that they've been seeing that you are really that getting addicted too much because they've obviously see you
that become impulsive into your actions like selling your possession or things just for the sake of gambling then this is a solid indicative sign that you are really that addicted to it.

It might really be that looking too much for some people but for me it is really just that right. Doing things for the sake of someones safety or trying out to stop on whats the worst things could happen
will be always be the wise thing to be done in the first place. I wont really be feeling bad about it if i were that boy who had been addicted, you would really be able to
appreciate on what are the things that they've been doing just for your own sake and safety or trying out to avoid the worst things as possible.
However, I would say that everyone is not the same and I still don't believe that, as humans we are, we are meant to be the same as everyone, so what I am trying to say is that the boy might feel bad, as he's family members are trying so hard to keep them selfs and him self safe from gambling, you can't feel bad as you said and I also won't feel bad as well but the boy and other gamblers out there will feel bad if incase we were in the sane shoes of the boy.
Every family has love for themselves, but only a few don't because they might have some misunderstanding with themselves. But truth be told, if the family of the so-called gambler did not love the boy and want his success they wouldn't have gone too far to stop him from gambling. Let's just look at that side and stick to it. Although I really understand what you are saying and I agree to it.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Odohu on November 14, 2023, 10:39:28 AM
Very normal thing for a family to do such measures and i agree on some post above that they dont really care on what are the steps or things that they'll be doing as long they could help out one of their members.
Family might not be perfect but we do know on whats the best for us, gambling isnt bad but on the time that they've been seeing that you are really that getting addicted too much because they've obviously see you
that become impulsive into your actions like selling your possession or things just for the sake of gambling then this is a solid indicative sign that you are really that addicted to it.
Family is very important in the life of anyone as they are the people that will support you in time of need. However, it is important to put in mind that family can take the wrong decision when watching out for their own. This very action might not be right even though the intention may be good. The man is an adult and has right to his decisions as much as he should be ready for the consequences for his actions. You cannot change an adult with force, especially when he is not ready to change. The best approach will be to continue to talk to him and appeal to his conscience to see the need to stop and change for God. Another approach will be to inform the people he listens to, those are the people that can talk some sense into him.





Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: maydna on November 14, 2023, 01:08:55 PM
Very normal thing for a family to do such measures and i agree on some post above that they dont really care on what are the steps or things that they'll be doing as long they could help out one of their members.
Family might not be perfect but we do know on whats the best for us, gambling isnt bad but on the time that they've been seeing that you are really that getting addicted too much because they've obviously see you
that become impulsive into your actions like selling your possession or things just for the sake of gambling then this is a solid indicative sign that you are really that addicted to it.
Family is very important in the life of anyone as they are the people that will support you in time of need. However, it is important to put in mind that family can take the wrong decision when watching out for their own. This very action might not be right even though the intention may be good. The man is an adult and has right to his decisions as much as he should be ready for the consequences for his actions. You cannot change an adult with force, especially when he is not ready to change. The best approach will be to continue to talk to him and appeal to his conscience to see the need to stop and change for God. Another approach will be to inform the people he listens to, those are the people that can talk some sense into him.
There's nothing wrong with gambling, but we have to be able to take care of ourselves or be responsible gamblers so that later, we won't cause trouble to our family, especially if we become addicted to gambling. If we are addicted to gambling, we will get into serious problems, which may take a long time to cure our gambling addiction. Family may not be perfect, but they are the ones who will probably help us first when we are experiencing problems, so we should not waste them, especially if we have a family who cares about us. Maybe the decision making made by the family may not be appropriate because of the limited information they have. At least they will definitely try to help us and will look for other information that we need so that we can undergo treatment for gambling addiction.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Sanugarid on November 14, 2023, 04:31:25 PM
It's normal for your loved ones to give extreme care most especially that they are your family. They knows what's good and bad for you. And if it means threatening the casinos so they won't let you gamble on their shops, then they will surely do it without hesitation so they can protect you from the danger that this gambling addiction may cause. That's what a family can do even if you see it they have gone too extreme just to protect yourself.

Now if you become lucky and made life changing profits with gambling, are you still supposed to help them? Of course, yes! At the end of the day, the rest of your friends will leave you most especially when you have no money anymore, but your family will stick by your side regardless if you have nothing to give to them. So prioritize helping your family above other people.

I agree with what you said, only your family can really help you when you are in trouble. So think carefully about why your family did this to you at that time, to protect you, to save you from gambling addiction because they love you, they care for you. So don't feel bad about what your family did because they only did it because they were worried about you.
Your family has not forgotten you. So if you hit the jackpot in your gambling, don't forget your family.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: beerlover on November 14, 2023, 07:03:00 PM
You cannot help a person who doesn't want to be helped. Absolutely nothing you can do. Even if you go for therapy, the therapist will tell you that. The best the family could have done was to put in in a situation where he would see that gambling addiction is damaging and can ruin his career. If I were the boy and my family treated me in that manner, they would probably not hear from me again for a long time to come. I would hate them for life.
We can lend a help but they could reject it. Maybe for now, because there are problematic person who soon realizes their own fault, so we should not give up easily. Helping someone can still give us a good unexplainable feeling, aside from the money that they can give to us. If we are the ones who are suffering from that condition, we shouldn't think in advance because our thoughts are for sure not correct.

Therapy is built that way in the first place to help people like us and they are also going to get paid, so they will never ignore us. Part of curing or preventing to get addicted in gambling is to show its side effects. Everyone knows this already.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: BitcoinTurk on November 14, 2023, 08:54:29 PM
Is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Share your thoughts!

Of course, this is a possibility within the realm of possibility. Also, considering that there aren't only physical casinos today it shouldn't be forgotten that this person can access gambling games online instead of going to a physical casino located further away. In other words, this precautionary action taken by this person's family is nothing more than preventing the person from going to physical casinos in the immediate vicinity.


Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?


1) Yes, I think that the family is exaggerating this situation by taking such precautions because as I stated in the answer to the previous question the measures mentioned are not sufficient for the person to stay away from gambling and are only a small obstacle for this person to easily access gambling.

2) This is actually a bit of a difficult question because it isn't very difficult to understand that the family doesn't actually have a bad purpose or goal. Of course, it may take some time or be difficult for a gambling addict to understand this but in this case it is important to remember that the family doesn't have a bad purpose. For this reason, I think that if I were this person I would realize this after earning a very high amount of money from gambling and would make my choice in favor of my family.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Lanatsa on November 14, 2023, 08:58:51 PM
Very normal thing for a family to do such measures and i agree on some post above that they dont really care on what are the steps or things that they'll be doing as long they could help out one of their members.
Family might not be perfect but we do know on whats the best for us, gambling isnt bad but on the time that they've been seeing that you are really that getting addicted too much because they've obviously see you
that become impulsive into your actions like selling your possession or things just for the sake of gambling then this is a solid indicative sign that you are really that addicted to it.
Family is very important in the life of anyone as they are the people that will support you in time of need. However, it is important to put in mind that family can take the wrong decision when watching out for their own. This very action might not be right even though the intention may be good. The man is an adult and has right to his decisions as much as he should be ready for the consequences for his actions. You cannot change an adult with force, especially when he is not ready to change. The best approach will be to continue to talk to him and appeal to his conscience to see the need to stop and change for God. Another approach will be to inform the people he listens to, those are the people that can talk some sense into him.
There's nothing wrong with gambling, but we have to be able to take care of ourselves or be responsible gamblers so that later, we won't cause trouble to our family, especially if we become addicted to gambling. If we are addicted to gambling, we will get into serious problems, which may take a long time to cure our gambling addiction. Family may not be perfect, but they are the ones who will probably help us first when we are experiencing problems, so we should not waste them, especially if we have a family who cares about us. Maybe the decision making made by the family may not be appropriate because of the limited information they have. At least they will definitely try to help us and will look for other information that we need so that we can undergo treatment for gambling addiction.
It would really be just that normal for our family to have that kind of action because they do care and really love one another on which if they would really be seeing someone whose in trouble then it would really be just that normal that they will really be lending a hand or would be doing sorts of ways for it to counter or completely stop it. Just like on what been said above that family cant be perfect but the concern and the love on what make it is, it might really be looking that too much of those actions been done but for the sake of your safety or avoiding potential problems then those actions are really just that right.

If you dont like for your family to have some involvement then you should really be making yourself that responsible so that they wont really be that taking any step further just because
you've been showing those real addiction. Selling something or in your possession is really that a solid indicative sign that you are already extreme addicted to gambling.
So it is really just that right that they would really be making otu such step for them to save you up on such difficult situation, you might not really that not impressed
or seeing this to be helpful but later on you would be able to realize.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Fortify on November 14, 2023, 09:06:56 PM
During the weekend I was listening to an evening programme from one our the local radio stations they were discussing about gambling, the effects and how to manage it if you might be struggling with  addiction. And they had listeners calling in to share personal experiences or of a loved one that gambles and amidst many callers there was this very caller story that caught my interest and curiosity.

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible  questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

It sounds like an incredibly dumb and made up story that has zero truth behind it, either you made it up or the radio station. If a gambling shop is legally allowed to operate and the man is of a legal age to place a bet, then there is nothing that could happen to those shops. A judge would not even hear a case in that scenario, because the man has willingly entered into a legal activity on legal premises. They could politely ask that this person be refused, but that is also unlikely as it raises the threat of abuse or violence against the staff members that refuse him. Nor does it solve any problem as the person might just search further afield and the internet makes it so easy to gamble now anyway. The whole story sounds ludicrous.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Odohu on November 14, 2023, 09:44:49 PM
There's nothing wrong with gambling, but we have to be able to take care of ourselves or be responsible gamblers so that later, we won't cause trouble to our family, especially if we become addicted to gambling. If we are addicted to gambling, we will get into serious problems, which may take a long time to cure our gambling addiction. Family may not be perfect, but they are the ones who will probably help us first when we are experiencing problems, so we should not waste them, especially if we have a family who cares about us. Maybe the decision making made by the family may not be appropriate because of the limited information they have. At least they will definitely try to help us and will look for other information that we need so that we can undergo treatment for gambling addiction.
In the case of the topic of discussion, I'm of the opinion that
Went too far in their bid to helping their brother. You can't help someone by destroying his name and reputation.  You don't cure an addiction by making it public, that's a wrong approach.

Do you know that even if such person manages to overcome his addiction after the family exposed his problem to the public without his consent, he will easily be reminded of his past by people at any little argument. This will immediately make him depressed and remorseful. 

While family help is important, the approach must be carefully chosen to avoid creating a bigger problem while solving a problem.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on November 14, 2023, 10:33:43 PM
This is the first time that I would read of a family going this extreme length to try and stop their kid from gambling. There is no positive effect this would  have on the boy they had the option of being loving and kind but chose the cruel route because that is what it is. If I were the boy, I'll get the arrested and make them pay damages . At least he'll be able to recover all the monies he lost from gambling through this means and it would teach them a lesson that they should let him be so he can live his life.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: danherbias07 on November 14, 2023, 10:38:34 PM
Very normal thing for a family to do such measures and i agree on some post above that they dont really care on what are the steps or things that they'll be doing as long they could help out one of their members.
Family might not be perfect but we do know on whats the best for us, gambling isnt bad but on the time that they've been seeing that you are really that getting addicted too much because they've obviously see you
that become impulsive into your actions like selling your possession or things just for the sake of gambling then this is a solid indicative sign that you are really that addicted to it.
Family is very important in the life of anyone as they are the people that will support you in time of need. However, it is important to put in mind that family can take the wrong decision when watching out for their own. This very action might not be right even though the intention may be good. The man is an adult and has right to his decisions as much as he should be ready for the consequences for his actions. You cannot change an adult with force, especially when he is not ready to change. The best approach will be to continue to talk to him and appeal to his conscience to see the need to stop and change for God. Another approach will be to inform the people he listens to, those are the people that can talk some sense into him.
That's also a good way to do things right.
But I still believe the family didn't go extreme in what they did. How can we fight against large businesses like gambling platforms? What they did is just a step to avoid unnecessary spending of money by suing them which we all know could be a losing case because of their power.
The trouble will always end up with the gambler and not the business because he is the one who got addicted to gambling and I don't think the gambling business could be tried by that reasoning unless they are in the wrong space (near residential), illegal, don't pay taxes, and other means to close them down.
It's true that talking calmly is still the powerful approach to make the gambler change but sometimes it doesn't work that way anymore and those close to them must use extreme measures to help him out.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Broadanbig on November 14, 2023, 10:45:19 PM
There's nothing wrong with gambling, but we have to be able to take care of ourselves or be responsible gamblers so that later, we won't cause trouble to our family, especially if we become addicted to gambling. If we are addicted to gambling, we will get into serious problems, which may take a long time to cure our gambling addiction. Family may not be perfect, but they are the ones who will probably help us first when we are experiencing problems, so we should not waste them, especially if we have a family who cares about us. Maybe the decision making made by the family may not be appropriate because of the limited information they have. At least they will definitely try to help us and will look for other information that we need so that we can undergo treatment for gambling addiction.
In the case of the topic of discussion, I'm of the opinion that
Went too far in their bid to helping their brother. You can't help someone by destroying his name and reputation.  You don't cure an addiction by making it public, that's a wrong approach.

Do you know that even if such person manages to overcome his addiction after the family exposed his problem to the public without his consent, he will easily be reminded of his past by people at any little argument. This will immediately make him depressed and remorseful. 

While family help is important, the approach must be carefully chosen to avoid creating a bigger problem while solving a problem.
I must say that your opinion is of utmost importance because I see no reason why such measures should be taken into consideration by the family members although they meant well as to stop the addiction but it is a measures taken too far because In the near future, he would be reminded by outsiders of his past and that would be a big stigma attached to him where ever he goes. In the other hand doing such can make him pretend that he has stopped gambling but believe me that would be the worse because they would not be able to keep track of his gambling lifestyle anymore which would be very dangerous than he used to be and when it gets to that point he might do the unthinkable with the mindset that his family does not matter to him since they could go a long way to expose and humiliate him publicly as an addicted gambler.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: qwertyup23 on November 14, 2023, 11:04:28 PM
Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

What do you mean by "extreme" ? Remember, family will go to lengths just to help their members get away from an activity that can also potentially endanger their situation. Personally, there exist no such extreme measure when it comes to solving the addiction of a person if the end result would be benefit to everyone.

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2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

I would definitely share it with them.

At the end of the day, my family members care about my life and livelihood as a whole. They will not attempt to stop my gambling activities if they know that I am being destructive in my lifestyle. Their intention is pure and good- they want me to stop and be responsible with my expenses, so it is natural for them to care.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Accardo on November 14, 2023, 11:07:55 PM
This is the first time that I would read of a family going this extreme length to try and stop their kid from gambling. There is no positive effect this would  have on the boy they had the option of being loving and kind but chose the cruel route because that is what it is. If I were the boy, I'll get the arrested and make them pay damages . At least he'll be able to recover all the monies he lost from gambling through this means and it would teach them a lesson that they should let him be so he can live his life.

It's funny to see a reaction close to mine, but contrarily a bit in the aspect that made your words funny; arresting your loved ones. Despite the action of these people or the damages they may have caused. We can't settle a fight with another fight. I think the best action is laying low and observing them from a distant. Because involving the police on this can add insult to the injury. Imagine it's a country where gambling is not legalized would that be an option? although this happened in a gambling friendly environment, yet the police still frown at gamblers. They're the society too, so it'll be disrespectful to embark on such a decision. The family will definitely face more difficulties, and no one would be glad to instigate double trouble in their home. What they did is very embarrassing no doubt and I see a future for the gambler as he may have a rethink. As nobody goes on without thinking of the bad treatment our loved ones has done to us. It's like an everlasting mark on the skin. Meeting a therapist is better than the police. A psycho therapist can swiftly handle the problem gradually. The best part of meeting a therapist is, at the end, the player can surprise his parents, by becoming a better citizen. Still, it baffles me you made this response, could you elaborate more on what may have led you to think this way? have you had any similar experience in your life? I've never seen this before and that doesn't mean I can't get angry to such extent if I were that gambler. But, paying back with love and care in a way that'll change me can be a better revenge. Thereby, helping me and the family instead of destroying the family or bringing more agony.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Lida93 on November 15, 2023, 08:12:01 AM
Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

What do you mean by "extreme" ? Remember, family will go to lengths just to help their members get away from an activity that can also potentially endanger their situation. Personally, there exist no such extreme measure when it comes to solving the addiction of a person if the end result would be benefit to everyone.

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2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

I would definitely share it with them.

At the end of the day, my family members care about my life and livelihood as a whole. They will not attempt to stop my gambling activities if they know that I am being destructive in my lifestyle. Their intention is pure and good- they want me to stop and be responsible with my expenses, so it is natural for them to care.
  Not a lie you could be correct, family is everything and when family are all out for you they can take on unspecified action just to salvage you from any nest that is deteriorating your personality in as much as the end result is of a positive impact.


I concur with your reasons to share to share your money with them. There's an adage in my local parlance that says "all what we're struggling for in life in anyway to make money is fixated on making family proud and taking care of family". Therefore, if we now made money and not let your family benefits from it then it's an error. Although some persons wouldn't care.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Kemarit on November 15, 2023, 08:20:31 AM
Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

This is not extreme, this is how casinos also worth, I have a cousin who is addicted to gambling way before. If he leaves the house at night and the wife knows that he will be gambling, he will call the casinos themselves and describe what the husband (my cousin), will look like and so he will be ban from entering the casinos. My casino will tell me he didn't know how it happened, but later on he understand that the wife called the casinos, describe what he is wearing and his looks and description and that's ti.

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

9 out 10, if a gambler won a lot of money, they will come back and play for more, resulting to a big lost. So I doubt that it will crossed his mind to share his winnings, but instead what in his mind is to continue to gamble again until he lose all that money.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Zanab247 on November 15, 2023, 08:52:12 AM
Quote from: mvdheuvel1983
This is the first time that I would read of a family going this extreme length to try and stop their kid from gambling. There is no positive effect this would  have on the boy they had the option of being loving and kind but chose the cruel route because that is what it is. If I were the boy, I'll get the arrested and make them pay damages . At least he'll be able to recover all the monies he lost from gambling through this means and it would teach them a lesson that they should let him be so he can live his life.
Gambling is not a bad thing to allow your kids to do in the society but ensure they are above 18 years before you can allow them to do such a thing, but you need to guide them in some areas not to allow them to be addicted to it because once they are addicted that is were many kids use to do evil things to their parents by using their school fees to gamble and regret why they took such decision. I don't know Why some people don't use to start gambling with little money to see how it work to avoid anything that will make them to regret when they do not get the money back because, the more you gamble to recover your money back the more you are losing more  money.

I don't think the family can stop the young man not to gamble on this condition, but they should try their possible best to help the boy to get a good job that will be keeping him busy night and day, I believe it will make him to reduce the way he use to gamble.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Outhue on November 15, 2023, 09:13:20 AM
During the weekend I was listening to an evening programme from one our the local radio stations they were discussing about gambling, the effects and how to manage it if you might be struggling with  addiction. And they had listeners calling in to share personal experiences or of a loved one that gambles and amidst many callers there was this very caller story that caught my interest and curiosity.

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible  questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!
This story have to be judge by thinking if you have someone like that gambler in your family, because I won't allow such person to make decisions for the family, I am thinking that he is the head of the house that's why he was able to sell properties successfully,  I don't see a thing that wrong with what the family did, some people are behaving like they are possessed with gambling, they will get so closed to gambling as if it's a do or die thing.

Addiction with gambling has levels, some are top notched, they will even sell their wives and daughters to the brothel for some money to use in gambling, there are different stories like this around the world like those countries where poverty is the biggest problem, these set of people are very hard to control, nothing can work on them not even therapies can solve their addiction to gambling.

To me they don't went to far to help this man but it may not work, gambling addiction is something that you must break yourself, when your mind is made up nothing can hinder it again, and when you decide to stop gambling you will succeed, the only way this addiction can be won is if this man is ready to stop gambling himself.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Broadanbig on November 15, 2023, 10:28:56 AM
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This is the first time that I would read of a family going this extreme length to try and stop their kid from gambling. There is no positive effect this would  have on the boy they had the option of being loving and kind but chose the cruel route because that is what it is. If I were the boy, I'll get the arrested and make them pay damages . At least he'll be able to recover all the monies he lost from gambling through this means and it would teach them a lesson that they should let him be so he can live his life.
Gambling is not a bad thing to allow your kids to do in the society but ensure they are above 18 years before you can allow them to do such a thing, but you need to guide them in some areas not to allow them to be addicted to it because once they are addicted that is were many kids use to do evil things to their parents by using their school fees to gamble and regret why they took such decision. I don't know Why some people don't use to start gambling with little money to see how it work to avoid anything that will make them to regret when they do not get the money back because, the more you gamble to recover your money back the more you are losing more  money.

Although gambling is not a bad thing but some society and religion sees it as odd and does not allow their people or congregation to partake in it so therefore some parents too do not wish for their child(ren) to also gamble as well. When a child is above 18 it is assumed that the child is matured enough to know what is right and what is wrong to some extent and would know what to do without supervision of the parents to take a decision on their own so therefore any child can take the best decision as it pleases them or seek the consent their parents or anybody they feel is okay to relate anything with in their life.

As for giving a child school fees to pay by themselves now, i think no parents does that for children below 18 who are still under their parents watch only those above that age and most of them are in the university so I believe they would be matured enough to know then right thing to do rather than gambling with their school fees.

I will quote this scriptures which I think is very much important to a child up bringing which says " Start children off on the way they should go, and even when they are old they will not turn from it." Proverbs 22:6

SOURCE (https://www.biblestudytools.com/proverbs/22-6.html)


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: maydna on November 15, 2023, 12:09:14 PM
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It would really be just that normal for our family to have that kind of action because they do care and really love one another on which if they would really be seeing someone whose in trouble then it would really be just that normal that they will really be lending a hand or would be doing sorts of ways for it to counter or completely stop it. Just like on what been said above that family cant be perfect but the concern and the love on what make it is, it might really be looking that too much of those actions been done but for the sake of your safety or avoiding potential problems then those actions are really just that right.

If you dont like for your family to have some involvement then you should really be making yourself that responsible so that they wont really be that taking any step further just because
you've been showing those real addiction. Selling something or in your possession is really that a solid indicative sign that you are already extreme addicted to gambling.
So it is really just that right that they would really be making otu such step for them to save you up on such difficult situation, you might not really that not impressed
or seeing this to be helpful but later on you would be able to realize.
They don't want to see us in trouble because if a person doesn't have good self-control and decides to gamble, he may end up having problem after problem that will get him into trouble. The family doesn't want that to happen, so they are forced to do that to prevent us from having problems. In fact, we should be grateful to our families who are willing to help us avoid gambling in this way. Maybe the family is not perfect, but they want to provide help to us so that we avoid the problems caused by gambling.

We should be able to be responsible for our actions, especially if we want to gamble, so that we don't experience problems, let alone become addicted to gambling. If we can be responsible when playing gambling, maybe they won't do things like that because when we gamble, it makes them worry and anxious if we will gamble excessively or become addicted to gambling. They don't want us to experience something bad that could result in our lives falling apart, so they go to the extreme and threaten us.

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In the case of the topic of discussion, I'm of the opinion that
Went too far in their bid to helping their brother. You can't help someone by destroying his name and reputation.  You don't cure an addiction by making it public, that's a wrong approach.

Do you know that even if such person manages to overcome his addiction after the family exposed his problem to the public without his consent, he will easily be reminded of his past by people at any little argument. This will immediately make him depressed and remorseful. 

While family help is important, the approach must be carefully chosen to avoid creating a bigger problem while solving a problem.
Perhaps for us, it has gone too far because we don't know the real situation. But for those who experience this, maybe they also find it difficult to make such a decision, and they are forced to do it because they don't want to see their family members being irresponsible in gambling. Or it could be that the person has gotten too deep into gambling and has caused a lot of problems for their family, so they do this as a last resort. It can be considered normal because only in that way can the person realize that what he did was wrong and start to improve it.

I agree that families should be able to take a different approach and don't need to use methods like that because it will make the person embarrassed and uncomfortable to see. But whatever it is, they should discuss everything carefully and not use extreme things to stop the person from gambling.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Saisher on November 15, 2023, 12:29:17 PM


Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
Because they love their loved ones families can sometimes to extremes that sometimes can be considered questionable, because all the other means failed to solve the issues of their loved ones, this may be wrong but they prefer it that way to protect one of their family to go astray further.

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2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

I will give them a portion to prove that I have no ill feelings about what they've done to me, if they accept the funds then all is good between us and I will stay away from them and be on my own since I have the money to manage myself and my gambling activity,


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Accardo on November 15, 2023, 07:04:01 PM

Although gambling is not a bad thing but some society and religion sees it as odd and does not allow their people or congregation to partake in it so therefore some parents too do not wish for their child(ren) to also gamble as well. When a child is above 18 it is assumed that the child is matured enough to know what is right and what is wrong to some extent and would know what to do without supervision of the parents to take a decision on their own so therefore any child can take the best decision as it pleases them or seek the consent their parents or anybody they feel is okay to relate anything with in their life.

As for giving a child school fees to pay by themselves now, i think no parents does that for children below 18 who are still under their parents watch only those above that age and most of them are in the university so I believe they would be matured enough to know then right thing to do rather than gambling with their school fees.

I will quote this scriptures which I think is very much important to a child up bringing which says " Start children off on the way they should go, and even when they are old they will not turn from it." Proverbs 22:6

SOURCE (https://www.biblestudytools.com/proverbs/22-6.html)

These days adults are derailing from the ways they were being trained by their parents. Hence, the society gets even more difficult to control. I'd say that despite having greater possibilty of being effective, allowing kids above the age of 18 isn't a nice idea. Because not everyone of them are grown enough to take reasonable decisions against delaying the gravity of making easy money through gambling. Peer pressure still control these youths and only the strong or well trained can withstand the gravity that follows it. The worst part of gambling is playing or staking the money given to us by others, especially our parents. To stay on safe side, it's crucial to hand out spare cash to our kids, as pocket cash. Such that, whatever thing they do with the money won't affect the family financially. Whether they're adults or not. The world is becoming too wild and nobody can be trusted with huge sum of money, not even our kids. Most parents have been through countless heart breaks by their kids, who squander their hard earned money on gambling. However, it's good to test the loyalty and morality of our children, by giving them trust. But, when they begin to act strange, our punctured trust would lead parents to act the ways they do not expect. Hence, when investing money on our children, we have to be there because the money belongs to the parents of that child. Whenever, the child, begin to generate wealth for themselves they can spend their money, how it pleases them. Still it doesn't stop us from teaching them money management and laying strong financial or investment foundation for them to be responsible; money wise. As a bad financial behavior, affects the economic growth of not only the child's family, but the society too.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Silberman on November 16, 2023, 07:34:22 AM
9 out 10, if a gambler won a lot of money, they will come back and play for more, resulting to a big lost. So I doubt that it will crossed his mind to share his winnings, but instead what in his mind is to continue to gamble again until he lose all that money.
This is by far the most likely outcome, and if we are honest I think  everyone has made that mistake, however it is important that if at some point we get a big win, something that every single gambler would like to get at least once, that we do not waste that chance, as that is money that can be used to start something good on your life and allow you to skip a great deal of steps on the process of reaching the financial independence everyone is looking for.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: carlfebz2 on November 16, 2023, 07:44:14 AM

Although gambling is not a bad thing but some society and religion sees it as odd and does not allow their people or congregation to partake in it so therefore some parents too do not wish for their child(ren) to also gamble as well. When a child is above 18 it is assumed that the child is matured enough to know what is right and what is wrong to some extent and would know what to do without supervision of the parents to take a decision on their own so therefore any child can take the best decision as it pleases them or seek the consent their parents or anybody they feel is okay to relate anything with in their life.

As for giving a child school fees to pay by themselves now, i think no parents does that for children below 18 who are still under their parents watch only those above that age and most of them are in the university so I believe they would be matured enough to know then right thing to do rather than gambling with their school fees.

I will quote this scriptures which I think is very much important to a child up bringing which says " Start children off on the way they should go, and even when they are old they will not turn from it." Proverbs 22:6

SOURCE (https://www.biblestudytools.com/proverbs/22-6.html)

These days adults are derailing from the ways they were being trained by their parents. Hence, the society gets even more difficult to control. I'd say that despite having greater possibilty of being effective, allowing kids above the age of 18 isn't a nice idea. Because not everyone of them are grown enough to take reasonable decisions against delaying the gravity of making easy money through gambling. Peer pressure still control these youths and only the strong or well trained can withstand the gravity that follows it. The worst part of gambling is playing or staking the money given to us by others, especially our parents. To stay on safe side, it's crucial to hand out spare cash to our kids, as pocket cash. Such that, whatever thing they do with the money won't affect the family financially. Whether they're adults or not. The world is becoming too wild and nobody can be trusted with huge sum of money, not even our kids. Most parents have been through countless heart breaks by their kids, who squander their hard earned money on gambling. However, it's good to test the loyalty and morality of our children, by giving them trust. But, when they begin to act strange, our punctured trust would lead parents to act the ways they do not expect. Hence, when investing money on our children, we have to be there because the money belongs to the parents of that child. Whenever, the child, begin to generate wealth for themselves they can spend their money, how it pleases them. Still it doesn't stop us from teaching them money management and laying strong financial or investment foundation for them to be responsible; money wise. As a bad financial behavior, affects the economic growth of not only the child's family, but the society too.
Due to lots of changes not only on things how they work but also into the community that we are living in on which its never been that the same anymore when it was a decade ago. Lots of changes specially on
the things that we are seeing now.Accessibility is also that too almost instant and information flied around instantly due to social media and advertisements could really be seen easily on the sites that you are hovering into on which means that exposure could really be that anywhere and everywhere on which means that our kids could really be able to make themselves be wary about those things
on which means that even on how strict we are when it comes to things should be followed, it would really be just that too easy to be bypassed.

On the time that we've seen that one of our family members had fell down into that verge of addiction then it would really be normal that we would be doing actions
which it would really be able to cut off that kind of engagement or involvement on which even if it means that they would really be needing
to step on someones right on doing so. Family doesnt care if it doesnt look ethical on other peoples views or not but still they would be continuing on doing that.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Hirose UK on November 16, 2023, 07:51:23 AM
9 out 10, if a gambler won a lot of money, they will come back and play for more, resulting to a big lost. So I doubt that it will crossed his mind to share his winnings, but instead what in his mind is to continue to gamble again until he lose all that money.
This is by far the most likely outcome, and if we are honest I think  everyone has made that mistake, however it is important that if at some point we get a big win, something that every single gambler would like to get at least once, that we do not waste that chance, as that is money that can be used to start something good on your life and allow you to skip a great deal of steps on the process of reaching the financial independence everyone is looking for.
Indeed, what always happens to gamblers when they get big win is that they continue playing until they experience even bigger losses.
If gambler wins they should be able to make the best use of that win and when they continue gambling, win is meaningless or can be said to be vain.
When gamblers win it is return that we deserve and we should be able to enjoy it instead of returning it to the casino because when we lose we will definitely spend more money.

But when the gambler still thinks about his family and still makes family the most valuable thing, it is possible that he will definitely share the winnings with people he loves or buy some valuable things for them.
Even though these people reject the gambling they do, when they receive whatever they are given from the winnings, there is definitely feeling of gratitude and emotion because the gambler still cares about them and has forgotten what happened.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Fiatless on November 16, 2023, 08:19:09 AM
9 out 10, if a gambler won a lot of money, they will come back and play for more, resulting to a big lost. So I doubt that it will crossed his mind to share his winnings, but instead what in his mind is to continue to gamble again until he lose all that money.
This is by far the most likely outcome, and if we are honest I think  everyone has made that mistake, however it is important that if at some point we get a big win, something that every single gambler would like to get at least once, that we do not waste that chance, as that is money that can be used to start something good on your life and allow you to skip a great deal of steps on the process of reaching the financial independence everyone is looking for.
Many people around me have made such mistakes when they win big. There is a case of a gambler who won about $50,000 and lost the entire money the same day because he lost control. But this doesn't erase the fact that many gamblers have maximized the money they won. One of my friends was able to achieve his lifelong dream of schooling at a European University after he won big. I suggest that every gambler should have a plan on how to use big wins and not waste them on luxury or lose them back. Big wins come a few times in a lifetime, hence we should be set to utilize these wins.

But when the gambler still thinks about his family and still makes family the most valuable thing, it is possible that he will definitely share the winnings with people he loves or buy some valuable things for them.
Even though these people reject the gambling they do, when they receive whatever they are given from the winnings, there is definitely feeling of gratitude and emotion because the gambler still cares about them and has forgotten what happened.
Assisting family members who have needs from a big win is not a bad idea.  Such support will make them know that gambling can sometimes be profitable. This might help to change the perception of some members of society that see gambling as immoral. I have an idea now to drill a water borehole in my rural community whenever I get a big win and I will inform the elders of the community that I got the money from gambling. It will help to reduce the negative view to hold against gamblers.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Salahmu on November 16, 2023, 10:36:23 AM
2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
Share your thoughts!
Is a simple question, for me I will come back and help my family especially my siblings because no matter any circumstance family is the only people that can stood by you in difficult times, so if I'm to be in his shoe I will come back and prove them wrong and also by empowering them.

But however listening to the whole story the family never did anything wrong because as a child they love so much they were only trying to stop him from going a wrong way which every parents will do the same to there children and however before the family send hs photographs to all the gambling shop to stop him from gambling was because he has become an addict already and has sold many properties, so the parents felt the only way for them to stop him is by doing what they did, so even if I'm the parents I will do the same.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Kelvinid on November 16, 2023, 10:51:56 AM
2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
Share your thoughts!
Is a simple question, for me I will come back and help my family especially my siblings because no matter any circumstance family is the only people that can stood by you in difficult times, so if I'm to be in his shoe I will come back and prove them wrong and also by empowering them.

That was just an assumption from OP but what if that person, that gambler turned his life to nothing and committed huge debts? How could he face his family who wanted to change his gambling style? What I understand with the situation is that they wanted their brother to slow down his gambling habits and the only option they see is to urge casinos not to let him enter and gamble. But it never works and is helpless because the owner of the casinos has no right to decline someone if he never commits any trouble, in fact, they want more gamblers.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: LesterD on November 16, 2023, 11:01:14 AM
2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
Share your thoughts!
Is a simple question, for me I will come back and help my family especially my siblings because no matter any circumstance family is the only people that can stood by you in difficult times, so if I'm to be in his shoe I will come back and prove them wrong and also by empowering them.

That was just an assumption from OP but what if that person, that gambler turned his life to nothing and committed huge debts? How could he face his family who wanted to change his gambling style? What I understand with the situation is that they wanted their brother to slow down his gambling habits and the only option they see is to urge casinos not to let him enter and gamble. But it never works and is helpless because the owner of the casinos has no right to decline someone if he never commits any trouble, in fact, they want more gamblers.
They came up with the idea of requesting to not let the guy gamble within their area to at least limit his gambling which is for his own good. We understand the reason, it's because they care. That's why if this ever happens, as long as the gambler goes back to his family showing regrets and promises that this will never happen again, I know the family will accept the guy and help him get back on his feet.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: stomachgrowls on November 16, 2023, 11:52:13 AM
2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
Share your thoughts!
Is a simple question, for me I will come back and help my family especially my siblings because no matter any circumstance family is the only people that can stood by you in difficult times, so if I'm to be in his shoe I will come back and prove them wrong and also by empowering them.

That was just an assumption from OP but what if that person, that gambler turned his life to nothing and committed huge debts? How could he face his family who wanted to change his gambling style? What I understand with the situation is that they wanted their brother to slow down his gambling habits and the only option they see is to urge casinos not to let him enter and gamble. But it never works and is helpless because the owner of the casinos has no right to decline someone if he never commits any trouble, in fact, they want more gamblers.
They came up with the idea of requesting to not let the guy gamble within their area to at least limit his gambling which is for his own good. We understand the reason, it's because they care. That's why if this ever happens, as long as the gambler goes back to his family showing regrets and promises that this will never happen again, I know the family will accept the guy and help him get back on his feet.
Family is family and they do know on whats better for you specially into our mom and  dad on which they do really know on what are the things that needs to be dealt with and to those things which arent really that good to get involved with. They wont really be making out those actions if they arent seeing something bad on your part or the things that you've been doing but if there's one then they would really be needing to assess the situation and would really be finding up ways on whats good for such condition whether they would really be taking up such step or not. They do all those things for the better or whats good for you and this is why
i cant really blame them out if ever the actions made is really just that crossing the line already.

Those actions shows that they do really care, i dont see for it to be wrong on which there are really individuals who doesnt really like to be controlled much or would really be that be watched or traced up
basing up on whats he's doing. There are really just those people who are really that to sensitive when it comes to this and would be saying that it is really that too much.
I do appreciate on what the family had done because they wont really be doing such extent if they werent really showing up some care.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: yazher on November 16, 2023, 12:00:19 PM
This is by far the most likely outcome, and if we are honest I think  everyone has made that mistake, however it is important that if at some point we get a big win, something that every single gambler would like to get at least once, that we do not waste that chance, as that is money that can be used to start something good on your life and allow you to skip a great deal of steps on the process of reaching the financial independence everyone is looking for.

I know a friend who happens to have the same story but not in gambling but when he hit the jackpot of promoting the right altcoin using bounties and airdrops. he never thought twice to gather his family and tell them about it. He bought his sisters some jewelry and smartphones and they extended their house with that money. He also gives their mother some nice gifts because my friend is really enjoying the scenery of a happy family. Even though he uses all the money he got from that single bounty reward, he never regrets it and now he has a stable job and no longer needs to invest his time doing some random altcoin bounties. mostly when we make others happy with what we can afford, it will come back to us double with lots of freebies.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Sanitough on November 16, 2023, 12:29:42 PM
This is by far the most likely outcome, and if we are honest I think  everyone has made that mistake, however it is important that if at some point we get a big win, something that every single gambler would like to get at least once, that we do not waste that chance, as that is money that can be used to start something good on your life and allow you to skip a great deal of steps on the process of reaching the financial independence everyone is looking for.

I know a friend who happens to have the same story but not in gambling but when he hit the jackpot of promoting the right altcoin using bounties and airdrops. he never thought twice to gather his family and tell them about it. He bought his sisters some jewelry and smartphones and they extended their house with that money. He also gives their mother some nice gifts because my friend is really enjoying the scenery of a happy family. Even though he uses all the money he got from that single bounty reward, he never regrets it and now he has a stable job and no longer needs to invest his time doing some random altcoin bounties. mostly when we make others happy with what we can afford, it will come back to us double with lots of freebies.

Bad move. If he didn't give away his bounty reward, he could have used that to start a business rather than going to work, although it's a stable job. You know, when you are running a business, you have a big chance of making it successful, and you can even help people to work with you. I'm not blaming his action, though, as we have different choices in life. Whatever makes us happy is what we should do. I'm just sharing my thoughts on this one.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 16, 2023, 01:49:01 PM
They came up with the idea of requesting to not let the guy gamble within their area to at least limit his gambling which is for his own good. We understand the reason, it's because they care. That's why if this ever happens, as long as the gambler goes back to his family showing regrets and promises that this will never happen again, I know the family will accept the guy and help him get back on his feet.
Yes, that's what families will do if they find that a family member is addicted to gambling or often gambles at casinos in their city. They don't want to see any of their members gambling more and more often, even to the point of spending all their money. That wouldn't be good for him because he could lose all his money, even the money he had in his savings, so his family took strict measures just to protect the person from excessive gambling. This is all for the good of the person so that he can remember that excessive gambling will not give the results he wants, so he should be able to realize his mistake and not gamble again.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on November 16, 2023, 02:50:42 PM

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

       -  If you don't share what you win with your loved ones, it will appear as if you are the same person to your loved ones or family.
If your loved ones did that, it's because they have concern and care, and it's also for your welfare, as far as I can see.
If you can, don't do that; after all, it is said that family is family; they won't leave in times of your circumstances, for sure.

Yes, that's what families will do if they find that a family member is addicted to gambling or often gambles at casinos in their city. They don't want to see any of their members gambling more and more often, even to the point of spending all their money. That wouldn't be good for him because he could lose all his money, even the money he had in his savings, so his family took strict measures just to protect the person from excessive gambling. This is all for the good of the person so that he can remember that excessive gambling will not give the results he wants, so he should be able to realize his mistake and not gamble again.

Family or blood line is like that, isn't it? There is probably no sane family that will let their family members get addicted to bad vices that can destroy their loved ones, of course.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: YOSHIE on November 16, 2023, 04:58:46 PM
Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
Yes, that action is too extreme, it's the same as embarrassing yourself, it's a ridiculous action, what's the big deal about having a photo stuck in the casino, The casinos have the right to prohibit sticking photos of the person on the walls of their casino houses and besides there is no law that can sue the owner of the casino, if the person's relatives gamble.

2. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
No, I don't have a grudge against my brother, even though he forbade me from gambling, maybe I should think positively about something like that, I will show him that I can get rich by gambling and I will share the money for him.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Rabata on November 16, 2023, 05:32:18 PM
They came up with the idea of requesting to not let the guy gamble within their area to at least limit his gambling which is for his own good. We understand the reason, it's because they care. That's why if this ever happens, as long as the gambler goes back to his family showing regrets and promises that this will never happen again, I know the family will accept the guy and help him get back on his feet.
Yes, that's what families will do if they find that a family member is addicted to gambling or often gambles at casinos in their city. They don't want to see any of their members gambling more and more often, even to the point of spending all their money. That wouldn't be good for him because he could lose all his money, even the money he had in his savings, so his family took strict measures just to protect the person from excessive gambling. This is all for the good of the person so that he can remember that excessive gambling will not give the results he wants, so he should be able to realize his mistake and not gamble again.
If people weren't addicted to gambling then people wouldn't worry too much about such common activities. But everyone knows that it is difficult to turn those who become addicted to gambling. Gamblers will not stop their addiction until they exhaust all their financial resources. So those who work as guardians of the family must consider these issues and try to warn in advance. An addicted gambler never thinks of himself as an addict. If he is given a piece of advice, he agrees to accept it for a while but then he does not keep his word. This picture is almost the same for any addicted gambler.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: bayu7adi on November 16, 2023, 06:47:04 PM
Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
That's extreme, but the young man also didn't mention the preventive measures their family took before resorting to such extreme actions. Families usually employ peaceful approaches to change the bad habits of a family member. Cooperative actions are always used to prevent family breakdown, and I consider this extreme action reasonable if the young man had been reminded several times before but still didn't realize.

Remember, patience also has a limit. When the timer runs out, emotions and anger will surface. Everyone expresses anger differently, and the level of extremity varies. I find it reasonable if that's the scenario.

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
Giving some of the profits, then leaving to start a new life if truly hated by the entire family. Trying to rise in a positive way, like working or starting a business to mend one's reputation. I will still hope to return to my family someday when I've become a useful person.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Quidat on November 16, 2023, 06:58:38 PM
2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
Share your thoughts!
Is a simple question, for me I will come back and help my family especially my siblings because no matter any circumstance family is the only people that can stood by you in difficult times, so if I'm to be in his shoe I will come back and prove them wrong and also by empowering them.

That was just an assumption from OP but what if that person, that gambler turned his life to nothing and committed huge debts? How could he face his family who wanted to change his gambling style? What I understand with the situation is that they wanted their brother to slow down his gambling habits and the only option they see is to urge casinos not to let him enter and gamble. But it never works and is helpless because the owner of the casinos has no right to decline someone if he never commits any trouble, in fact, they want more gamblers.
They came up with the idea of requesting to not let the guy gamble within their area to at least limit his gambling which is for his own good. We understand the reason, it's because they care. That's why if this ever happens, as long as the gambler goes back to his family showing regrets and promises that this will never happen again, I know the family will accept the guy and help him get back on his feet.
Family is family and they do know on whats better for you specially into our mom and  dad on which they do really know on what are the things that needs to be dealt with and to those things which arent really that good to get involved with. They wont really be making out those actions if they arent seeing something bad on your part or the things that you've been doing but if there's one then they would really be needing to assess the situation and would really be finding up ways on whats good for such condition whether they would really be taking up such step or not. They do all those things for the better or whats good for you and this is why
i cant really blame them out if ever the actions made is really just that crossing the line already.

Those actions shows that they do really care, i dont see for it to be wrong on which there are really individuals who doesnt really like to be controlled much or would really be that be watched or traced up
basing up on whats he's doing. There are really just those people who are really that to sensitive when it comes to this and would be saying that it is really that too much.
I do appreciate on what the family had done because they wont really be doing such extent if they werent really showing up some care.
Blood is indeed thicker that water and it would really be that your family would be always the best thing that you could have and its true that they do really know on whats best for you
and even if it means on going into those actions which it might be looking that too much but it us really just that for the sake of your safety and avoiding you to end up miserable.
Family would really be that normally be doing on what are the things that they must do. They would really be definitely be doing something which it is for your own good.
They wont really be minding about the things whether it is really that too much or not, as long they could be able to help out someone whose really at verge
of gambling addiction or something issues happen.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: ChiBitCTy on November 16, 2023, 07:06:06 PM
During the weekend I was listening to an evening programme from one our the local radio stations they were discussing about gambling, the effects and how to manage it if you might be struggling with  addiction. And they had listeners calling in to share personal experiences or of a loved one that gambles and amidst many callers there was this very caller story that caught my interest and curiosity.

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible  questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

I think anyone with a family that cares enough to go to those sorts of lenths to help out their fellow family members should consider themselves lucky to have people whom truly care.  Today so many parents simply fail at their job, which extends even in to adulthood.  I think what his family did was noble and that he should be proud that he's got family members whom care as much as they do.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Frankolala on November 16, 2023, 07:29:18 PM
This is by far the most likely outcome, and if we are honest I think  everyone has made that mistake, however it is important that if at some point we get a big win, something that every single gambler would like to get at least once, that we do not waste that chance, as that is money that can be used to start something good on your life and allow you to skip a great deal of steps on the process of reaching the financial independence everyone is looking for.

I know a friend who happens to have the same story but not in gambling but when he hit the jackpot of promoting the right altcoin using bounties and airdrops. he never thought twice to gather his family and tell them about it. He bought his sisters some jewelry and smartphones and they extended their house with that money. He also gives their mother some nice gifts because my friend is really enjoying the scenery of a happy family. Even though he uses all the money he got from that single bounty reward, he never regrets it and now he has a stable job and no longer needs to invest his time doing some random altcoin bounties. mostly when we make others happy with what we can afford, it will come back to us double with lots of freebies.
your friend case and OP's case study is not similar. This is because I don't think that your friend parent and siblings did everything possible to stop him from altcoin bounties since am not sure if they are aware of what he was doing. However, it is good that we share out joyful moments with our loved ones by sharing our wins with them because they will be the ones for us on our sorrowful days.

I don't see anything wrong with what his family did to him, because nobody will be happy that their family member is a chronic addict and might make life miserable for himself in future if something is not done fast. These are family members trying to pill out their brother from addiction and it turns out that the guy won big, to prove to them that there is sense in what he is doing.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Accardo on November 16, 2023, 08:30:05 PM

These days adults are derailing from the ways they were being trained by their parents. Hence, the society gets even more difficult to control. I'd say that despite having greater possibilty of being effective, allowing kids above the age of 18 isn't a nice idea. Because not everyone of them are grown enough to take reasonable decisions against delaying the gravity of making easy money through gambling. Peer pressure still control these youths and only the strong or well trained can withstand the gravity that follows it. The worst part of gambling is playing or staking the money given to us by others, especially our parents. To stay on safe side, it's crucial to hand out spare cash to our kids, as pocket cash. Such that, whatever thing they do with the money won't affect the family financially. Whether they're adults or not. The world is becoming too wild and nobody can be trusted with huge sum of money, not even our kids. Most parents have been through countless heart breaks by their kids, who squander their hard earned money on gambling. However, it's good to test the loyalty and morality of our children, by giving them trust. But, when they begin to act strange, our punctured trust would lead parents to act the ways they do not expect. Hence, when investing money on our children, we have to be there because the money belongs to the parents of that child. Whenever, the child, begin to generate wealth for themselves they can spend their money, how it pleases them. Still it doesn't stop us from teaching them money management and laying strong financial or investment foundation for them to be responsible; money wise. As a bad financial behavior, affects the economic growth of not only the child's family, but the society too.
Due to lots of changes not only on things how they work but also into the community that we are living in on which its never been that the same anymore when it was a decade ago. Lots of changes specially on
the things that we are seeing now.Accessibility is also that too almost instant and information flied around instantly due to social media and advertisements could really be seen easily on the sites that you are hovering into on which means that exposure could really be that anywhere and everywhere on which means that our kids could really be able to make themselves be wary about those things
on which means that even on how strict we are when it comes to things should be followed, it would really be just that too easy to be bypassed.

On the time that we've seen that one of our family members had fell down into that verge of addiction then it would really be normal that we would be doing actions
which it would really be able to cut off that kind of engagement or involvement on which even if it means that they would really be needing
to step on someones right on doing so. Family doesnt care if it doesnt look ethical on other peoples views or not but still they would be continuing on doing that.

From your response, I'd say that parents were taken off guard by the internet and social media. It'll have to take us few more years to have a disciplinary measures for our kids on the internet. But, it looks like a thing that can't be achieved for most families. Because, even in a household kids follow this instruction of limited internet access, they'll definitely be carried away by peers, who have the luxury to visit every site and read different information. The world can get better when parents begin to welcome home schooling for their children. Hence, placing strict restrictions on the activities of the kids; the kind of friends they meet, games they play, and the information they read. Because the after effect of the kind of reckless moves of parents when their kids misbehave is destructive to the future of that ward and his future family too. Every moment we see how parents show poor emotional relationship to their crying kids, shows us how detached the human love has gone in few years. It doesn't start now. Parent's attitude towards their wards, when they need an emotional response as toddlers shapes the child's behavior as an adult. In addition, even if the internet exposes growing teenagers to a wild behavior. It doesn't mean that all internet users, are wild, growing up. You'd see that kids who got close emotional relationship with their parents, tend to control their emotions and don't easily derail from the training of their parents. Hence, they'll definitely discuss whatever they're about to do, with their parents. If they don't get approved, they may or won't do that at all. Lack of good emotional training as kids affects the life of most adults today. Thereby creating the kind of brutal parents and child relationship we see today. The teenager hurts his parents in a harsh manner, and his parents respond weirdly too. Causing more pains to the already dying bond.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Gozie51 on November 16, 2023, 09:21:23 PM

I know a friend who happens to have the same story but not in gambling but when he hit the jackpot of promoting the right altcoin using bounties and airdrops. he never thought twice to gather his family and tell them about it. He bought his sisters some jewelry and smartphones and they extended their house with that money. He also gives their mother some nice gifts because my friend is really enjoying the scenery of a happy family. Even though he uses all the money he got from that single bounty reward, he never regrets it and now he has a stable job and no longer needs to invest his time doing some random altcoin bounties. mostly when we make others happy with what we can afford, it will come back to us double with lots of freebies.

Making the family happy from gambling winnings is a good one though but I think we should also try to invest some part of our winnings incase of rainy days depending on how much was won.

And to help uplift someone in the family is also a kind of human development like to help them in their finance to start up their own business, learn a skill, go to school etc but to squander winnings on just gifts and things of no immediate importance is not really a wise decision on winnings.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 17, 2023, 12:53:01 PM
Family or blood line is like that, isn't it? There is probably no sane family that will let their family members get addicted to bad vices that can destroy their loved ones, of course.
They will do everything they can to get out their family members who are addicted to gambling so that they don't gamble further. His family will not let anyone in his family experience difficulties and will help him to solve his problems.

If people weren't addicted to gambling then people wouldn't worry too much about such common activities. But everyone knows that it is difficult to turn those who become addicted to gambling. Gamblers will not stop their addiction until they exhaust all their financial resources. So those who work as guardians of the family must consider these issues and try to warn in advance. An addicted gambler never thinks of himself as an addict. If he is given a piece of advice, he agrees to accept it for a while but then he does not keep his word. This picture is almost the same for any addicted gambler.
It is indeed difficult to stop his gambling addiction because all he can think about is gambling so it is true that it can cost him all his money. But if any of his family found out and his family didn't want him to get deeper into gambling, they would try to warn him and would even try to pull him out of gambling. There must be a confession from the gambler to be able to open his mind that there is a gambling addiction that must be cured and if it is not done immediately, it will endanger him even more. And after he admits his gambling addiction, his family will look for ways to cure his gambling addiction.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: wallet4bitcoin on November 17, 2023, 01:01:16 PM
Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

When you consider the wreckage been caused by the compulsive gambling trait of the young man, you'll go to the extreme to help him, although not all of the approaches will be ideal but whatever comes to their mind at that point will be tried out since its now a worse case scenario.


Secondly, money is money irrespective, as long as its legal and not fake. If the man wins money, the family will accept it, except if he has a family that is at the apex of discipline and has promised to have nothing to do with his gambling proceeds.





Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Docnaster on November 17, 2023, 01:09:03 PM
Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

When you consider the wreckage been caused by the compulsive gambling trait of the young man, you'll go to the extreme to help him, although not all of the approaches will be ideal but whatever comes to their mind at that point will be tried out since its now a worse case scenario.


Secondly, money is money irrespective, as long as its legal and not fake. If the man wins money, the family will accept it, except if he has a family that is at the apex of discipline and has promised to have nothing to do with his gambling proceeds.




One thing we all should understand from the context of discussion is that the family is trying to look out for one of their own and is taking all the actions they took just because they want to see him become successful in the future for himself and also to the entire family. From what I read in the story, it's obvious that the young man in question was already a gambling addict hence the actions to help control his gambling activities.
Talking about going a far distant and eventually winning big in gambling, there are families whose values and norms are more important than whatever amount of money you can give to them and if the man's family is one of those families, they'll still reject the man's money if he comes back with huge money that he got from gambling because they never supported his gambling activities in the first place


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Winterfrost on November 17, 2023, 01:16:13 PM
Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

OP IMO, the family only intervened in this situation because they loved him. The said gambler is very addicted that he has to sell almost all he had to continue gambling. I think such a gambler cannot be satisfied no matter the amount he wins. He is willing to continue gambling because that is what he loves doing. The family did the best they could to stop their relative from losing all he had.


2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Should one rely on luck? No. There is no higher chances or certaintity that some day the gambler will win a huge amount. He dreams of that day but only luck could make it possible. There is nothing bad if he discipline himself by not selling his properties and still gamble low key. I don't think his family is really upset about him gambling they are more concerned about the crazy actions he takes to gamble at all cost.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: fullhdpixel on November 17, 2023, 05:56:10 PM
9 out 10, if a gambler won a lot of money, they will come back and play for more, resulting to a big lost. So I doubt that it will crossed his mind to share his winnings, but instead what in his mind is to continue to gamble again until he lose all that money.
This is by far the most likely outcome, and if we are honest I think  everyone has made that mistake, however it is important that if at some point we get a big win, something that every single gambler would like to get at least once, that we do not waste that chance, as that is money that can be used to start something good on your life and allow you to skip a great deal of steps on the process of reaching the financial independence everyone is looking for.
If we haven't get that big win yet, that is where we can say or wish, to get it at least once. But believe me, once we finally get it, there will be an urge of trying to get it again or our standard will now increase.

Whatever path you choose after, I think you never wasted your chance because you can also get entertained when you play gambling and imagine if you got lucky and hit your target again? That will be an instant profit for you than compare to if you are building a business outside which can take ages to see the better results. That is a better definition of skipping a great deal of steps or skipping the process of financial independency that you are talking about there.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 18, 2023, 03:08:42 PM
Sometimes gambling can make things very strong, because the game makes a person quickly become addicted, which is why they can go to the extreme of looking for a way to gamble, risking the family's assets, which makes me It seems extreme, many years ago I remember that I was very young, I was around 5 years old, and in my house they were talking about casniso and people that someone I knew had a son because he was in the apostop casino so much and was losing so much money , that all he had to do was risk his house, because he had the deeds of the maimsa, and well that was something that that person even lost, and of course that was in a casino, and that was a big deal because all the neighbors were talking about that case, that the lady, who was crying because her son left her on the street, then some caisno lawyers came to take possession of the house, that was something very extreme.

At that time things were not talked about casinos, those who played considered that they were all addicts, and that casino was the most dangerous activity and they believed that it destroyed people, that it turned them into what they they were looking for, then from those facts the people 'thought that the casino was the worst that could exist, based on these facts it was always emphasized so that when the people talked and were in caisno it was not the only thing they had the risk of losing everything and no one He went to a casino because it was said that the casino was going to take over everything, and the people kept their house property very well. When his children told him that they wanted to go to the casinos, he didn't let them go out, or they had holidays. fights, things they did to avoid this type of thing, and cases that were really sad, but this teaches people that caisno is about having healthy fun, that you should not lose control and that people should be aware of their actions .


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Sanugarid on November 18, 2023, 03:40:31 PM
This is by far the most likely outcome, and if we are honest I think  everyone has made that mistake, however it is important that if at some point we get a big win, something that every single gambler would like to get at least once, that we do not waste that chance, as that is money that can be used to start something good on your life and allow you to skip a great deal of steps on the process of reaching the financial independence everyone is looking for.

I know a friend who happens to have the same story but not in gambling but when he hit the jackpot of promoting the right altcoin using bounties and airdrops. he never thought twice to gather his family and tell them about it. He bought his sisters some jewelry and smartphones and they extended their house with that money. He also gives their mother some nice gifts because my friend is really enjoying the scenery of a happy family. Even though he uses all the money he got from that single bounty reward, he never regrets it and now he has a stable job and no longer needs to invest his time doing some random altcoin bounties. mostly when we make others happy with what we can afford, it will come back to us double with lots of freebies.

I also know someone like this, he also hit the jackpot and had a lot of money, the only difference is that all his money was spent on his family's girlfriend. It's just sad to think that there are people like this who forget their family. That's why I admire your friend, he didn't forget his family when he had a lot of money. No matter what happens, your family is always there when you need help.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Popkon6 on November 18, 2023, 04:06:44 PM
During the weekend I was listening to an evening programme from one our the local radio stations they were discussing about gambling, the effects and how to manage it if you might be struggling with  addiction. And they had listeners calling in to share personal experiences or of a loved one that gambles and amidst many callers there was this very caller story that caught my interest and curiosity.

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible  questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

Gambling is not right for a person, but a small amount of gambling can be done. Of all the difficult aspects of gambling addiction, the gambler is most likely to lose, because the gambling addict is always eager to win. Due to family turmoil, gamblers are stressed in various ways and they blame the casinos in particular. I think that gambler has become more addicted so a person who is so addicted can never be successful in gambling. So I think excessive gambling addiction to his love activities is ready to lead a person down the path of destruction.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on November 18, 2023, 04:16:03 PM
This is by far the most likely outcome, and if we are honest I think  everyone has made that mistake, however it is important that if at some point we get a big win, something that every single gambler would like to get at least once, that we do not waste that chance, as that is money that can be used to start something good on your life and allow you to skip a great deal of steps on the process of reaching the financial independence everyone is looking for.

I know a friend who happens to have the same story but not in gambling but when he hit the jackpot of promoting the right altcoin using bounties and airdrops. he never thought twice to gather his family and tell them about it. He bought his sisters some jewelry and smartphones and they extended their house with that money. He also gives their mother some nice gifts because my friend is really enjoying the scenery of a happy family. Even though he uses all the money he got from that single bounty reward, he never regrets it and now he has a stable job and no longer needs to invest his time doing some random altcoin bounties. mostly when we make others happy with what we can afford, it will come back to us double with lots of freebies.

I also know someone like this, he also hit the jackpot and had a lot of money, the only difference is that all his money was spent on his family's girlfriend. It's just sad to think that there are people like this who forget their family. That's why I admire your friend, he didn't forget his family when he had a lot of money. No matter what happens, your family is always there when you need help.
I want to believe that you saying that the person you are talking about spent all his money on his family's girlfriend was a typo, because it makes your comment rather confusing.

Anyways, there is this really popular adage in my place which states that blood is ticker than water, which actually is a known fact, ones family will always be family, no matter what happens.
There is a kind of situation one would find him or herself, friends will completely run away so that they don't get implicated, but family will aways stand up for their own, this is why no matter what happens, or no matter what family does to a person, that person is free to move away from the family, but never forget them, never forget your family for there can never be friends who can replace family.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: klidex on November 19, 2023, 03:27:35 AM
9 out 10, if a gambler won a lot of money, they will come back and play for more, resulting to a big lost. So I doubt that it will crossed his mind to share his winnings, but instead what in his mind is to continue to gamble again until he lose all that money.
This is by far the most likely outcome, and if we are honest I think  everyone has made that mistake, however it is important that if at some point we get a big win, something that every single gambler would like to get at least once, that we do not waste that chance, as that is money that can be used to start something good on your life and allow you to skip a great deal of steps on the process of reaching the financial independence everyone is looking for.
If we haven't get that big win yet, that is where we can say or wish, to get it at least once. But believe me, once we finally get it, there will be an urge of trying to get it again or our standard will now increase.

Whatever path you choose after, I think you never wasted your chance because you can also get entertained when you play gambling and imagine if you got lucky and hit your target again? That will be an instant profit for you than compare to if you are building a business outside which can take ages to see the better results. That is a better definition of skipping a great deal of steps or skipping the process of financial independency that you are talking about there.
a compulsive gambler will never be satisfied with the results they get even though they win a lot of money, they will continue to use the results of gambling to play gambling games continuously. I actually don't understand the concept of what they do because as far as I know gamblers Compulsive always gamble even though they have achieved results because they are already addicted to gambling, which means it will be difficult for them to just stop.

It's true that gambling can give instant luck, which is different from running a business where you have to wait a long time to get satisfactory results, but you need to remember that gambling doesn't always give you luck, so far more people experience losses than luck when playing gambling, I personally prefer to running a business rather than hoping for luck on a gamble whose outcome is uncertain.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: HelliumZ on November 19, 2023, 04:09:37 AM
I am not worried about my family because no family members are involved in gambling but I am very worried about my neighbors. These days they are getting involved with various online gambling in such a way that they get extra greedy and get involved in gambling by selling their physical properties. Thus, if they are constantly involved in gambling, then once their family is like thatwill fall into economic crisis from which they will not be able to get out easily. Lately, many school and college boys and girls in my area have become involved in online gambling and many have been forced to sell their homes. They need to be freed from the ill effects of excessive online gambling.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Awaklara on November 19, 2023, 04:17:27 AM
I am not worried about my family because no family members are involved in gambling but I am very worried about my neighbors. These days they are getting involved with various online gambling in such a way that they get extra greedy and get involved in gambling by selling their physical properties. Thus, if they are constantly involved in gambling, then once their family is like thatwill fall into economic crisis from which they will not be able to get out easily. Lately, many school and college boys and girls in my area have become involved in online gambling and many have been forced to sell their homes. They need to be freed from the ill effects of excessive online gambling.
they gamble without control and that is the worst risk. most people do what other people in the environment do too. it makes very fast new people who know and play gambling.
we can't blame the gambling game. Do you know a casino that is a place for gambling? Such mistakes are purely from the gamblers themselves who cannot control what they do.
gambling will not be bad when we are responsible. and even if our family or colleagues do it responsibly, it will not have a negative effect on us or the environment.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Rabata on November 19, 2023, 04:25:14 AM

I know a friend who happens to have the same story but not in gambling but when he hit the jackpot of promoting the right altcoin using bounties and airdrops. he never thought twice to gather his family and tell them about it. He bought his sisters some jewelry and smartphones and they extended their house with that money. He also gives their mother some nice gifts because my friend is really enjoying the scenery of a happy family. Even though he uses all the money he got from that single bounty reward, he never regrets it and now he has a stable job and no longer needs to invest his time doing some random altcoin bounties. mostly when we make others happy with what we can afford, it will come back to us double with lots of freebies.

Making the family happy from gambling winnings is a good one though but I think we should also try to invest some part of our winnings incase of rainy days depending on how much was won.

And to help uplift someone in the family is also a kind of human development like to help them in their finance to start up their own business, learn a skill, go to school etc but to squander winnings on just gifts and things of no immediate importance is not really a wise decision on winnings.

Yes, we should remember that winning in gambling is not possible every day. So we must make good use of the winnings we get. If the right decision is not taken at the right time, there can be disaster. Those of us who have a family must love all the family members and we spend money on them with various small gifts. Although this work is good, but we should invest the money in some good investment platform for a short period of time. Winning and losing in gambling is uncertain. You may be at the moment win in gambling and may lose it later. So spending money on any business or any proactive work that will provide money in the future. It is good advice that it is the best time for investment if someone invests in crypto I think he can make good assets which can help him later. You can invest in any platform as per your convenience.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Zanab247 on November 19, 2023, 04:30:33 AM
Quote from: HelliumZ
I am not worried about my family because no family members are involved in gambling but I am very worried about my neighbors. These days they are getting involved with various online gambling in such a way that they get extra greedy and get involved in gambling by selling their physical properties. Thus, if they are constantly involved in gambling, then once their family is like thatwill fall into economic crisis from which they will not be able to get out easily. Lately, many school and college boys and girls in my area have become involved in online gambling and many have been forced to sell their homes. They need to be freed from the ill effects of excessive online gambling.
Why must you worry about your neighbor gambling, is it your business seeing your neighbors gambling with their money and if you are not comfortable with their gambling or you discovered that if you don't leave such compound they can sell your property to gamble and nothing will happen to them, I will advise you to leave such compound. Those selling things anyhow to gamble are those that fully addicted to gambling and such people their family don't allow them to gamble because they have see danger ahead of their life and prosperity, and they have to force them to leave the family.

Some of the students gambling, their parents are aware of their gambling because that is were some of them get their school fees, house rent, and food stuff because their parents used that gambling to trained themselves when they were in school those days and they want their children too to pass through the same struggle.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Silberman on November 19, 2023, 06:55:19 AM
This is by far the most likely outcome, and if we are honest I think  everyone has made that mistake, however it is important that if at some point we get a big win, something that every single gambler would like to get at least once, that we do not waste that chance, as that is money that can be used to start something good on your life and allow you to skip a great deal of steps on the process of reaching the financial independence everyone is looking for.

I know a friend who happens to have the same story but not in gambling but when he hit the jackpot of promoting the right altcoin using bounties and airdrops. he never thought twice to gather his family and tell them about it. He bought his sisters some jewelry and smartphones and they extended their house with that money. He also gives their mother some nice gifts because my friend is really enjoying the scenery of a happy family. Even though he uses all the money he got from that single bounty reward, he never regrets it and now he has a stable job and no longer needs to invest his time doing some random altcoin bounties. mostly when we make others happy with what we can afford, it will come back to us double with lots of freebies.
That is another nice story, as there are many investors that are putting their money in new altcoins as they are expecting those kind of results, personally I think he did OK with that money as it is also unrealistic to only use that amount of money in a business or in another good investment, so spending a part of those profits to share the joy of earning that amount of money with his family makes a lot of sense, and it is nice to see your friend eventually got a good job and could stop doing bounties.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: piebeyb on November 19, 2023, 07:04:02 AM
It's true that gambling can give instant luck, which is different from running a business where you have to wait a long time to get satisfactory results, but you need to remember that gambling doesn't always give you luck, so far more people experience losses than luck when playing gambling, I personally prefer to running a business rather than hoping for luck on a gamble whose outcome is uncertain.
Everyone definitely has their own views and choices in life, that's why it's important to know what's good and bad in gambling or business, after all, why do people still think that gambling can make a lot of money even though just to win at gambling you still hope for luck, actually there is what is wrong with their mindset, if they really want to make a lot of money why not work or do business.

If you want to find entertainment there is no problem with gambling because basically gambling was created as entertainment to have fun, not the other way around like making money, just look at the many people who complain because they experience losses from gambling because they only think that gambling can make a lot of money and get rich instantly.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: knowngunman on November 19, 2023, 07:19:19 AM
Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

Although, this is not the first I'm hearing this type of story but the only difference here is the family printing photograph and threatening the gambling shop owners with legal action. But if I may ask, have they all forgotten that with phone and internet, he can continue with his gambling? In this era, restricting someone from gambling using such approach is as good as wasting your time because it'll not produce any better results as long as they have access to phone. By the way, taking legal action against the gambling service providers is actually wrong as far as the gambler is not an underage. These people are out there for business and not forcing anyone to come and gamble. So, I think the best thing the family can do is to provide their ward with counseling and see how it can transform the gambler's life.

But why will you even consider to run away to a distant location just to continue gambling if they succeed in stopping you using that approach? Perhaps, the situation is not just ordinary because that level of addiction is beyond extreme. And by the way, is it a tradition to share your winning with people? I think no.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: |MINER| on November 19, 2023, 07:36:53 AM
That is another nice story, as there are many investors that are putting their money in new altcoins as they are expecting those kind of results, personally I think he did OK with that money as it is also unrealistic to only use that amount of money in a business or in another good investment, so spending a part of those profits to share the joy of earning that amount of money with his family makes a lot of sense, and it is nice to see your friend eventually got a good job and could stop doing bounties.
But I think investing anywhere without proper analysis is like gambling. Be it alternative coin investment or any business that one goes into investing with no idea and no skills. If I share an experience or a story that a friend of mine bought some alternative coins by bouncing a year ago the amount was very low but suddenly six months later it pumped like 125 times.  He got greedy and held on to that meme coin and after a few days those coins went below their previous price. And now if I am talking about Bounty or Air Drop Campaigns then it would be beneficial to spend time elsewhere instead of spending time on them. Because currently most of them are scammer. And all the good campaigns that are available will not earn much.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: EarnOnVictor on November 19, 2023, 09:32:46 AM
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
Without mincing words, the family went extreme. As long as the guy is an adult, he can do whatever he wants and if he didn't assent to gambling addiction with any casinos and their agents, there is nothing the family could do legally against the house.

But for a gentle man's understanding and agreement, the operators might want to help the guy and his family by disallowing him to gamble in their places. But what if he gambles through his friends or goes to another location?

These are the issues. I believe they need to solve the problem from the source not through their immature approach.

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2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
Of course, I would. After all, this is one of the ways to shame them that gambling is not always as bad as thought. There are cases like this where families would be bittered about a gambler but when success is involved they would all want to partake in the cake.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Dewi Aries on November 19, 2023, 10:05:47 AM
It's true that gambling can give instant luck, which is different from running a business where you have to wait a long time to get satisfactory results, but you need to remember that gambling doesn't always give you luck, so far more people experience losses than luck when playing gambling, I personally prefer to running a business rather than hoping for luck on a gamble whose outcome is uncertain.
Everyone definitely has their own views and choices in life, that's why it's important to know what's good and bad in gambling or business, after all, why do people still think that gambling can make a lot of money even though just to win at gambling you still hope for luck, actually there is what is wrong with their mindset, if they really want to make a lot of money why not work or do business.

If you want to find entertainment there is no problem with gambling because basically gambling was created as entertainment to have fun, not the other way around like making money, just look at the many people who complain because they experience losses from gambling because they only think that gambling can make a lot of money and get rich instantly.

It's true what you said, everyone has the right to choose. They also already know which things are good for themselves and which bad things should be avoided, but if they know the things  they do are bad they are looking for diseases that will be at risk for themselves. But what is wrong is why many people expect to get rich quickly by gambling so that they can gamble continuously without realizing the amount of money they have lost is not small, even I think if they collect the money they have lost because of gambling maybe they can start a business that will certainly produce for themselves.

It is their mindset that must be changed so as not to make gambling their life goal, because there are still many things that are more important than gambling. There is nothing wrong if gambling is only for entertainment and playing with the limits of the budget that has been set, but if it is to be the main income I am not sure it can make them rich, on the contrary, there are even those whose daily needs become completely lacking because they always prioritize gambling.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Jaycoinz on November 19, 2023, 10:13:57 AM
This is by far the most likely outcome, and if we are honest I think  everyone has made that mistake, however it is important that if at some point we get a big win, something that every single gambler would like to get at least once, that we do not waste that chance, as that is money that can be used to start something good on your life and allow you to skip a great deal of steps on the process of reaching the financial independence everyone is looking for.

I know a friend who happens to have the same story but not in gambling but when he hit the jackpot of promoting the right altcoin using bounties and airdrops. he never thought twice to gather his family and tell them about it. He bought his sisters some jewelry and smartphones and they extended their house with that money. He also gives their mother some nice gifts because my friend is really enjoying the scenery of a happy family. Even though he uses all the money he got from that single bounty reward, he never regrets it and now he has a stable job and no longer needs to invest his time doing some random altcoin bounties. mostly when we make others happy with what we can afford, it will come back to us double with lots of freebies.

I also know someone like this, he also hit the jackpot and had a lot of money, the only difference is that all his money was spent on his family's girlfriend. It's just sad to think that there are people like this who forget their family. That's why I admire your friend, he didn't forget his family when he had a lot of money. No matter what happens, your family is always there when you need help.
Money can be intoxicating sometimes and only a few percentage of persons in the world actually know how to control the pressure and influence that comes with money control. I have had so many friends who were successful in hitting some significant profits in gambling but all end up squandering the fund in different things just because they have this perception that it's actually free money and should be spent anyhow.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: boty on November 19, 2023, 11:47:55 AM
Money can be intoxicating sometimes and only a few percentage of persons in the world actually know how to control the pressure and influence that comes with money control. I have had so many friends who were successful in hitting some significant profits in gambling but all end up squandering the fund in different things just because they have this perception that it's actually free money and should be spent anyhow.
It is very difficult to be able to control the money we have no matter how much we have if we can't use it properly of course the money will easily run out and we don't even know where the money is used, when someone wins a bet in the gambling we play of course they have to be able to controlling themselves, it would be better to take the winnings they have got and enjoy them, rather than looking for bigger wins and spending all the winnings they have got.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: RockBell on November 19, 2023, 01:38:59 PM
I am not worried about my family because no family members are involved in gambling but I am very worried about my neighbors. These days they are getting involved with various online gambling in such a way that they get extra greedy and get involved in gambling by selling their physical properties. Thus, if they are constantly involved in gambling, then once their family is like thatwill fall into economic crisis from which they will not be able to get out easily. Lately, many school and college boys and girls in my area have become involved in online gambling and many have been forced to sell their homes. They need to be freed from the ill effects of excessive online gambling.
If no one gambles in your family then there is no need to worry because not everyone has the psychology to manage their self in gambling in the process of starting they might turn into addicts, just like the example you gave about your neighbor, and online gambling is sweet in the sense that nobody will know if you were gambling or not, and that is when people even get more greedy, because they will placing bet upon bet.  And once anybody is already selling their properties then their is a problem, the person is already inviting poverty to their life, because they will end up selling everything. and people like them will always get financial crisis because any money they get they will eventually use it to gamble. i know their will be homeless people that lost their houses to serious gambling, but the problem is most of them don't learn.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Hirose UK on November 19, 2023, 02:17:36 PM
But when the gambler still thinks about his family and still makes family the most valuable thing, it is possible that he will definitely share the winnings with people he loves or buy some valuable things for them.
Even though these people reject the gambling they do, when they receive whatever they are given from the winnings, there is definitely feeling of gratitude and emotion because the gambler still cares about them and has forgotten what happened.
Assisting family members who have needs from a big win is not a bad idea.  Such support will make them know that gambling can sometimes be profitable. This might help to change the perception of some members of society that see gambling as immoral. I have an idea now to drill a water borehole in my rural community whenever I get a big win and I will inform the elders of the community that I got the money from gambling. It will help to reduce the negative view to hold against gamblers.
Of course, when gambler wants to share their winnings or invite their family to enjoy the results of their winnings, they will think that even though they are gambler, still care about their family and not forget them when they win.
Most people think gambling is bad activity and they even think that gambler winnings are only used for inappropriate activities such as going to nightclubs or getting drunk and all bad thoughts like this can be eliminated when they can show concern for their family or even other people.

There is little experience that I have recently where father and husband are quite fond of gambling and one of the types of gambling that is most liked is the dice game which is owned by bookie and there every bettor can come directly and place their bet on numbers in the dice.
This game involves shaking two dice using the shell of an old coconut and each bettor places bet on the number on the dice.
But he was gambler who never wanted to give his gambling winnings to his family because he thought he only wanted to feed or meet the family needs with money from his own work, not from gambling.
And what was surprising was that he won around $1,500 in one night and used 70% of the money to donate to social foundation that takes in street children who don't have parents.
In this case, I confused about whether he is good person or wise father because what he did was


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 19, 2023, 02:32:45 PM
Money can be intoxicating sometimes and only a few percentage of persons in the world actually know how to control the pressure and influence that comes with money control. I have had so many friends who were successful in hitting some significant profits in gambling but all end up squandering the fund in different things just because they have this perception that it's actually free money and should be spent anyhow.
It is very difficult to be able to control the money we have no matter how much we have if we can't use it properly of course the money will easily run out and we don't even know where the money is used, when someone wins a bet in the gambling we play of course they have to be able to controlling themselves, it would be better to take the winnings they have got and enjoy them, rather than looking for bigger wins and spending all the winnings they have got.
Those who can get a lot of money from gambling should be able to use it for their benefit and life. It was like a once in a lifetime opportunity to improve his life for the better. But unfortunately, most people prefer to waste their expenses by using a lot of their winnings. They don't try to take half of the winnings for their future but use all the money to follow a lifestyle and buy things they don't really need. If they have a close family, the immediate family will definitely warn the person to save his money for his future. Hopefully, if we get a big win, we can use it for our lives so that our lives can change for the better.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Mauser on November 19, 2023, 02:57:25 PM

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

1.) No, I don't think the family went to far here. They love their son and brother and want to help him as much as possible. Selling all your private property to gamble is extreme and he definitely needs help. The problem is that once you are above the legal age to gamble your family can't do much to stop it. Treating the casinos is one thing, but I am sure they know better and can't really refuse people just because the parents told them so. Also, if the young man really wants to gamble than he can find other ways like online gambling. The family should make an intervention and try their son to start a therapy. In such a severe case it would be best to visit a clinic for a few wwwks to make a hard break.

2.) Of course I would share my success with my family, why shouldn't I? My siblings and parents only want the best for me and their concern over my well-being just shows their love. In case I win millions I would give every family member some money. It's my parents who paid for me all my life, now it's my turn to return some money. I think that if my brother or father would win the lottery they would also give me money.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: invo on November 19, 2023, 04:26:24 PM
Money can be intoxicating sometimes and only a few percentage of persons in the world actually know how to control the pressure and influence that comes with money control. I have had so many friends who were successful in hitting some significant profits in gambling but all end up squandering the fund in different things just because they have this perception that it's actually free money and should be spent anyhow.
It is very difficult to be able to control the money we have no matter how much we have if we can't use it properly of course the money will easily run out and we don't even know where the money is used, when someone wins a bet in the gambling we play of course they have to be able to controlling themselves, it would be better to take the winnings they have got and enjoy them, rather than looking for bigger wins and spending all the winnings they have got.
Those who can get a lot of money from gambling should be able to use it for their benefit and life. It was like a once in a lifetime opportunity to improve his life for the better. But unfortunately, most people prefer to waste their expenses by using a lot of their winnings. They don't try to take half of the winnings for their future but use all the money to follow a lifestyle and buy things they don't really need. If they have a close family, the immediate family will definitely warn the person to save his money for his future. Hopefully, if we get a big win, we can use it for our lives so that our lives can change for the better.
In our country, there's a belief that if the money you make is not hard-earned money, specifically in gambling, it won't last long. It is true that winning in gambling is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity but if you didn't work hard to earn it, it will be easy to spend it without having a second thought. This may be the case for him that's why he lives a lifestyle of buying everything he wants even those unneeded things.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Blitzboy on November 19, 2023, 07:16:50 PM
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Of course, when gambler wants to share their winnings or invite their family to enjoy the results of their winnings, they will think that even though they are gambler, still care about their family and not forget them when they win.
Most people think gambling is bad activity and they even think that gambler winnings are only used for inappropriate activities such as going to nightclubs or getting drunk and all bad thoughts like this can be eliminated when they can show concern for their family or even other people.

There is little experience that I have recently where father and husband are quite fond of gambling and one of the types of gambling that is most liked is the dice game which is owned by bookie and there every bettor can come directly and place their bet on numbers in the dice.
This game involves shaking two dice using the shell of an old coconut and each bettor places bet on the number on the dice.
But he was gambler who never wanted to give his gambling winnings to his family because he thought he only wanted to feed or meet the family needs with money from his own work, not from gambling.
And what was surprising was that he won around $1,500 in one night and used 70% of the money to donate to social foundation that takes in street children who don't have parents.
In this case, I confused about whether he is good person or wise father because what he did was
On the one hand, the father doesnt want to support his family with gambling gains because he believes that money should be "earned." Still, he gives a big chunk of his newfound wealth to a good cause. What does this mean? It makes me think of a complicated moral compass, where gambling isnt just a way to have fun, but also a surprising way to help others. Does he seem like a good person? Could be. A smart dad? Not certain. But isnt it interesting how gambling, which is often looked down upon, can lead to kind acts? What it really is is a moral and ethical puzzle wrapped up in the form of a dice game. The way he acted goes against the usual story and shows that gambling and caring about others can live together. Isnt it fascinating to think about?


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Oilacris on November 19, 2023, 07:22:51 PM
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Of course, when gambler wants to share their winnings or invite their family to enjoy the results of their winnings, they will think that even though they are gambler, still care about their family and not forget them when they win.
Most people think gambling is bad activity and they even think that gambler winnings are only used for inappropriate activities such as going to nightclubs or getting drunk and all bad thoughts like this can be eliminated when they can show concern for their family or even other people.

There is little experience that I have recently where father and husband are quite fond of gambling and one of the types of gambling that is most liked is the dice game which is owned by bookie and there every bettor can come directly and place their bet on numbers in the dice.
This game involves shaking two dice using the shell of an old coconut and each bettor places bet on the number on the dice.
But he was gambler who never wanted to give his gambling winnings to his family because he thought he only wanted to feed or meet the family needs with money from his own work, not from gambling.
And what was surprising was that he won around $1,500 in one night and used 70% of the money to donate to social foundation that takes in street children who don't have parents.
In this case, I confused about whether he is good person or wise father because what he did was
On the one hand, the father doesnt want to support his family with gambling gains because he believes that money should be "earned." Still, he gives a big chunk of his newfound wealth to a good cause. What does this mean? It makes me think of a complicated moral compass, where gambling isnt just a way to have fun, but also a surprising way to help others. Does he seem like a good person? Could be. A smart dad? Not certain. But isnt it interesting how gambling, which is often looked down upon, can lead to kind acts? What it really is is a moral and ethical puzzle wrapped up in the form of a dice game. The way he acted goes against the usual story and shows that gambling and caring about others can live together. Isnt it fascinating to think about?
Each of us does have that own way of living on which it would really be just that basing our actions on what we do believe. Basing up on that little experience above on having that winning donation instead on applying or making use of it into his own family then its his choice but i do agree that it isnt something that it is really that wise to do so. Gambling wont really be that bad
as long you do only play for fun but it turns out that luck was on your side then those winnings wont really be that bad on spending at all. You are really just that basically making yourself
put in a hard situation but since those money been used up on other good means or deeds then it might be considerable but i do agree on the thing you've seen
that this isnt a smart move ever.

Back at topic on which i dont see for his family's action that had been made, it is really just for the sake of good then it is normal
that family always knows best.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: erep on November 19, 2023, 08:24:27 PM
1.) No, I don't think the family went to far here. They love their son and brother and want to help him as much as possible. Selling all your private property to gamble is extreme and he definitely needs help. The problem is that once you are above the legal age to gamble your family can't do much to stop it. Treating the casinos is one thing, but I am sure they know better and can't really refuse people just because the parents told them so. Also, if the young man really wants to gamble than he can find other ways like online gambling. The family should make an intervention and try their son to start a therapy. In such a severe case it would be best to visit a clinic for a few wwwks to make a hard break.
The impact of compulsive gambling has gone too far because he has sold everything to indulge his gambling addiction. He is lucky to have a family who really cares about his current condition, so the family has come to provide assistance and help heal psychologically. It seems that he really needs therapy to recover from gambling addiction and his family's concern will be very helpful to speed up healing from the effects of gambling addiction.

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2.) Of course I would share my success with my family, why shouldn't I? My siblings and parents only want the best for me and their concern over my well-being just shows their love. In case I win millions I would give every family member some money. It's my parents who paid for me all my life, now it's my turn to return some money. I think that if my brother or father would win the lottery they would also give me money.
Agreed, they don't support us in gambling but that's no reason to ignore them if we win millions of dollars from jackpot winnings, they deserve to receive some of those winnings because they really care about us and they only want the best for our future. I would give them 30% and they would be happy to get that kind of money.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: stomachgrowls on November 19, 2023, 09:43:41 PM
1.) No, I don't think the family went to far here. They love their son and brother and want to help him as much as possible. Selling all your private property to gamble is extreme and he definitely needs help. The problem is that once you are above the legal age to gamble your family can't do much to stop it. Treating the casinos is one thing, but I am sure they know better and can't really refuse people just because the parents told them so. Also, if the young man really wants to gamble than he can find other ways like online gambling. The family should make an intervention and try their son to start a therapy. In such a severe case it would be best to visit a clinic for a few wwwks to make a hard break.
The impact of compulsive gambling has gone too far because he has sold everything to indulge his gambling addiction. He is lucky to have a family who really cares about his current condition, so the family has come to provide assistance and help heal psychologically. It seems that he really needs therapy to recover from gambling addiction and his family's concern will be very helpful to speed up healing from the effects of gambling addiction.

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2.) Of course I would share my success with my family, why shouldn't I? My siblings and parents only want the best for me and their concern over my well-being just shows their love. In case I win millions I would give every family member some money. It's my parents who paid for me all my life, now it's my turn to return some money. I think that if my brother or father would win the lottery they would also give me money.
Agreed, they don't support us in gambling but that's no reason to ignore them if we win millions of dollars from jackpot winnings, they deserve to receive some of those winnings because they really care about us and they only want the best for our future. I would give them 30% and they would be happy to get that kind of money.
You are really indeed lucky if you do have a family which do really shows care for you which we know that there are other families who dont really care on what are the struggles and things that happen into you.
So it isnt really that just right that you should be cursing them or would really be getting mad on what they have done for you. This is really showing that they do care for you
and its not really that something that bad and be grateful that you do have a family something like this.If you would really be forcing up yourself on finding ways to gamble then it would really be just that an easy solution for you to gamble again on which you could really just simply go into other places for you to play but is this something that you do want or like? You would surely be spending more
since travelling does means more expenses unless if you are really that having a rich family then it wont really be an issue.



Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: macson on November 19, 2023, 10:34:30 PM
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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!
In fact, his family has given up on all the efforts they have made, so they took extreme measures by displaying photos of their family in many gambling shops, but to be honest, it will not be 100% successful because he is an impulsive gambler, he will definitely continues to try hard to fulfill his gambling desires, he will definitely go to a faraway place, so in my opinion, the best way to help someone get out of their gambling addiction is to guide the person to go to a psychiatrist and consult with them to get rid of the effects of the addiction that has become sticky in their head.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Westinhome on November 19, 2023, 10:52:23 PM

In fact, his family has given up on all the efforts they have made, so they took extreme measures by displaying photos of their family in many gambling shops, but to be honest, it will not be 100% successful because he is an impulsive gambler, he will definitely continues to try hard to fulfill his gambling desires, he will definitely go to a faraway place, so in my opinion, the best way to help someone get out of their gambling addiction is to guide the person to go to a psychiatrist and consult with them to get rid of the effects of the addiction that has become sticky in their head.

The family was mostly against the gambler until he made the big win in the gambling,So they family action will be negative to the gamblers playing in the gambling sites.Some of the gambler had win the big win in the gambling sites,So it help them to convince their family members with the money earned from he gambling sites.The gambler who ready to hard work to analysis the gambling site will make the big win in the gambling sites.But some gambler will start to argue with their family members till the fight get in to the family searation.Because the gambler family members always the people against the gambling sites because they had hear the bad story about the gamblers who had loss huge money in the gambling sites.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Orpichukwu on November 19, 2023, 11:03:55 PM
Assisting family members who have needs from a big win is not a bad idea.  Such support will make them know that gambling can sometimes be profitable. This might help to change the perception of some members of society that see gambling as immoral. I have an idea now to drill a water borehole in my rural community whenever I get a big win and I will inform the elders of the community that I got the money from gambling. It will help to reduce the negative view to hold against gamblers.
We have some very stubborn families out there. When they say they don't like this, they really don't like it and will not buy the idea of enjoying whatever's coming from it, so no matter the amount of winning the person gets from gambling, some families will never see it as a good thing. Most people hate gambling to the extent that they regard money from it as dirty money.
 
So sometimes it's good to change their mindset first before winning the game if they can't accept your gambling habit. Adding to the fact that you gamble out of control, there is a higher possibility that they won't accept whatever comes from it that you present to them.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 20, 2023, 12:30:29 AM
In our country, there's a belief that if the money you make is not hard-earned money, specifically in gambling, it won't last long. It is true that winning in gambling is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity but if you didn't work hard to earn it, it will be easy to spend it without having a second thought. This may be the case for him that's why he lives a lifestyle of buying everything he wants even those unneeded things.
I've heard beliefs or sayings about it, but I don't know. I didn't think about it either. That could be because we don't work hard to get the money. The money doesn't last long and can't just be saved. We tend to spend the money easily because we might think that we can get it again from gambling, so there is no feeling of wanting to save the money. But getting a lot of winning money also makes someone want to fulfil their lifestyle like other people. Hopefully, if we can win a lot of money, we won't be like that and can use the money wisely so that we can change our lives for the better and can also have a good business so that we don't get our hopes up and don't depend too much on gambling to make money.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: klidex on November 20, 2023, 03:56:37 AM
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Everyone definitely has their own views and choices in life, that's why it's important to know what's good and bad in gambling or business, after all, why do people still think that gambling can make a lot of money even though just to win at gambling you still hope for luck, actually there is what is wrong with their mindset, if they really want to make a lot of money why not work or do business.

If you want to find entertainment there is no problem with gambling because basically gambling was created as entertainment to have fun, not the other way around like making money, just look at the many people who complain because they experience losses from gambling because they only think that gambling can make a lot of money and get rich instantly.
Of course, everyone must be able to assess the pros and cons of gambling so that they can reconsider being able to earn income from the gambling they play, because this is very difficult to obtain. I also rarely see people who can actually earn a steady income from gambling that I know. they always run out of their balance in a gambling game session so they have to deposit money again so they can continue gambling.

Yes, they should think like that, at least they have to work or run a business in order to get definite results. Hope in gambling is just a wishful thinking that cannot necessarily be achieved.

Using gambling on the basis of entertainment can be an activity thats It's goods as long as you can use it well and not excessively so you don't experienced too many losses and most importantly you have to be willing to lose your money if the gambling is for entertainment.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: junder on November 20, 2023, 06:51:04 AM

In fact, his family has given up on all the efforts they have made, so they took extreme measures by displaying photos of their family in many gambling shops, but to be honest, it will not be 100% successful because he is an impulsive gambler, he will definitely continues to try hard to fulfill his gambling desires, he will definitely go to a faraway place, so in my opinion, the best way to help someone get out of their gambling addiction is to guide the person to go to a psychiatrist and consult with them to get rid of the effects of the addiction that has become sticky in their head.

The family was mostly against the gambler until he made the big win in the gambling,So they family action will be negative to the gamblers playing in the gambling sites.Some of the gambler had win the big win in the gambling sites,So it help them to convince their family members with the money earned from he gambling sites.The gambler who ready to hard work to analysis the gambling site will make the big win in the gambling sites.But some gambler will start to argue with their family members till the fight get in to the family searation.Because the gambler family members always the people against the gambling sites because they had hear the bad story about the gamblers who had loss huge money in the gambling sites.

That's right, there are some families who support the activities of their family members. but in my opinion, most families would oppose gambling activities because everyone knows the harmful effects of gambling that can change a person to be worse than before, and also oversized gambling has a negative perspective among the community because it can cause harm to others if someone is severely addicted.

And the bad story of a gambler is not small so many families will oppose their members if they are addicted to gambling, because they are afraid that something will happen to their family members if they are addicted to a high level. And this will certainly be detrimental to themselves because of the harmful effects of gambling and even the impact can spread to other people who are affected who do not know anything about the problems of those who are addicted. So it is important for families to remind their family members to avoid drug addiction which has dangerous adverse effects. Harming themselves is a given, but what I fear is that it can also affect others.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: davis196 on November 20, 2023, 07:10:22 AM
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So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

What do you mean by "gambling shop"? A casino or a sports betting shop?
1.How they can find out that their brother had gambled in one of the local "gambling shops"? What if the owners of those "shops" lied about this particular family member not gambling in their shop? This is too difficult to be proven in court.
2.The guy with compulsive gambling behavior is an adult. He has the right to visit casinos and to gamble(assuming that offline gambling is allowed by the law in that particular country). I don't think that they will achieve anything by suing the local "gambling shops".
I really doubt that this gambling addict would win a big amount of money via gambling. Even if he manages to win a big amount, he would most likely waste all the money in no time.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Strongkored on November 20, 2023, 07:45:00 AM
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
We don't know whether he is someone who already has an income or not, because I think this is quite important when he doesn't have an income then he will immediately stop gambling because he no longer has money or assets that he can sell to get money.
I can't judge whether what his family is doing is extreme or not because his family certainly hopes that this method will be effective in stopping him from gambling, but how easy it is for him to find a betting shop in a different city will also determine the success of his family's steps, the more difficult it is to find a betting shop in another city, of course it will be enough managed to reduce his gambling, but because gambling can also be done online, he may switch to online gambling sites.
What is no less important is to take him to a therapist to get treatment so he can recover from his addiction.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: GigaBit on November 20, 2023, 08:07:44 AM
Money can be intoxicating sometimes and only a few percentage of persons in the world actually know how to control the pressure and influence that comes with money control. I have had so many friends who were successful in hitting some significant profits in gambling but all end up squandering the fund in different things just because they have this perception that it's actually free money and should be spent anyhow.
It is very difficult to be able to control the money we have no matter how much we have if we can't use it properly of course the money will easily run out and we don't even know where the money is used, when someone wins a bet in the gambling we play of course they have to be able to controlling themselves, it would be better to take the winnings they have got and enjoy them, rather than looking for bigger wins and spending all the winnings they have got.
Most gamblers can't keep that money after they win. As soon as they win, they want to use the money for various purposes and at one point even spend their entire winnings. But they should understand what happens if they lose when gambling again after winning. Where the money will come from at that time? Every gambler should conduct gambling with patience and spend the winnings properly. If the winning money can be invested in any investment or profitable venture then the money can support the gambler in transition from there. Since there is no guarantee of winning in gambling, gambling can be managed well if money is adequate for gambling.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Kelward on November 20, 2023, 09:38:31 AM
During the weekend I was listening to an evening programme from one our the local radio stations they were discussing about gambling, the effects and how to manage it if you might be struggling with  addiction. And they had listeners calling in to share personal experiences or of a loved one that gambles and amidst many callers there was this very caller story that caught my interest and curiosity.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

To answer your first question, I don't think that any family can be said to go too far in the process of rehabilitating one of their own. Family bond can make them to go to unimaginable length to save their member. But going beyond far to extreme can be dangerous and harmful to them and their addicted member.

Although In this particular case study, I think that the family should have focused on giving him a professional help by taking him to a rehab, perhaps a psychology or psychiatrist. Because restricting him to gamble within his environment will not be helpful, because he can travel to another areas or use a mobile phone to gamble. Unless they're locking him up, which will be barbaric.

If he has any conscience he should share his gambling success with his family, because he must understand that the family acted out of concern and love for him.



Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Z390 on November 20, 2023, 10:05:27 AM
The only thing that I can sell my properties for is Bitcoin, selling your things to gamble is sure to end in disaster for you, because you are betting all that money on luck, I can see that the man in the story of OP is a greedy man who only thinks for himself, that's why he won't listen to his family, they must have been telling him to stop for a long period of time before they decide to print out his photo and spread it around to make him stop gambling, the family are trying to safe themselves before the man causes more damages to their lives, my parents used to say that a gambler as a son is a lost son, as they believe or due to the past experience they have with gamblers, they believe that the son will sell everything for gambling.

Someone said this family went too far but I don't see how, if they don't stop him first he will do harm to them too, for someone who only have a house which he and his family are residing decide to sell the house so that he can gamble, where did he except his family to stay? On the streets? If he is living alone and he decide to do this to himself its better, maybe he want to sleep on the street homeless, but he shouldn't put his family in the same suffering.

I can't imagine the pain the family must have went through, this is a disgrace for them, it's a big shame and when they move out of their home every morning, they will have this feeling of embarrassment in them, as if people are all talking about them, I am sure that they must have use everything they know to make this man stop but as always, some gamblers always went too far, such people shouldn't have become a gambler from the beginning.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: passwordnow on November 20, 2023, 11:03:18 AM
If I am very addicted and if my family is trying to help me quit, I won't blame and stop them. But wherever my feet is going to bring me, it's not their problem anymore but mine. So that's how an addicted gambler is and you're not going to stop until you're wholly stopped by your own and these posters or photographs that are given to the casinos just for them to recognize me, that's fine as they're just doing their thing to help me get out of addiction.

And with winning, I'll still give them their share of course. They're not other people and I have nothing against them, no grudge or what not and that's just me being me when I continue to gamble and all they trying to do is to help me out. So why wouldn't I share some money on them when I have won when I know that they have pure intentions and they don't want me to get to the extent to see me suffering and all they give me is the help that they can for me even if it means of stopping me to get into gambling shops. And if they were successful, I understand that there will be no prize money that shall be shared to them. Again, that's just me being me and I think some of you guys are also like that.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: AicecreaME on November 20, 2023, 12:01:31 PM
The only thing that I can sell my properties for is Bitcoin, selling your things to gamble is sure to end in disaster for you, because you are betting all that money on luck, I can see that the man in the story of OP is a greedy man who only thinks for himself, that's why he won't listen to his family, they must have been telling him to stop for a long period of time before they decide to print out his photo and spread it around to make him stop gambling, the family are trying to safe themselves before the man causes more damages to their lives, my parents used to say that a gambler as a son is a lost son, as they believe or due to the past experience they have with gamblers, they believe that the son will sell everything for gambling.

Someone said this family went too far but I don't see how, if they don't stop him first he will do harm to them too, for someone who only have a house which he and his family are residing decide to sell the house so that he can gamble, where did he except his family to stay? On the streets? If he is living alone and he decide to do this to himself its better, maybe he want to sleep on the street homeless, but he shouldn't put his family in the same suffering.

I can't imagine the pain the family must have went through, this is a disgrace for them, it's a big shame and when they move out of their home every morning, they will have this feeling of embarrassment in them, as if people are all talking about them, I am sure that they must have use everything they know to make this man stop but as always, some gamblers always went too far, such people shouldn't have become a gambler from the beginning.

It's really a recipe for disaster if you will use your hard-earned money from your day-job and the money you generated from selling your valuable things. This is because in gambling, winning is uncertain. Anything isn't guaranteed. You might win today and lose big time tomorrow. No one can truly predict hundred percent what the outcome will be. Which is why it's necessary to gamble responsibly and to gamble with discipline. Moderation in betting and playing is essential so you won't get addicted to it. Because once you get obsessed with gambling, you will crave for it until you can no longer control your urges to play and spend.

If your family will go to an extent that will make you feel shameful, most probably it's because that's the only thing they can do to make you stop. Although I'm not really condoning that kind of act, especially threatening the casinos, but they might have been so desperate to help you quit gambling if that's the case. And it's so awful to witness that, I hope addicts will realize how much of a burden they are to their loved ones especially if they can't take after themselves.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Negotiation on November 20, 2023, 01:16:24 PM
Money can be intoxicating sometimes and only a few percentage of persons in the world actually know how to control the pressure and influence that comes with money control. I have had so many friends who were successful in hitting some significant profits in gambling but all end up squandering the fund in different things just because they have this perception that it's actually free money and should be spent anyhow.
It is very difficult to be able to control the money we have no matter how much we have if we can't use it properly of course the money will easily run out and we don't even know where the money is used, when someone wins a bet in the gambling we play of course they have to be able to controlling themselves, it would be better to take the winnings they have got and enjoy them, rather than looking for bigger wins and spending all the winnings they have got.
Rightly said but there are many gamblers who don't know how to enjoy these wins. They think that once they win they will win more and then lose their control and get greedy. Gambling doesn't always win if you become addicted to betting no matter how much money you have it will end. Once greed works it impairs your judgement leading to unexpected losses so constantly making sure you don't waste money will allow you to improve because it gives you more time to play. If you can control yourself you can bet on a variety of markets with generally favorable odds.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: maydna on November 20, 2023, 03:03:52 PM
Rightly said but there are many gamblers who don't know how to enjoy these wins. They think that once they win they will win more and then lose their control and get greedy. Gambling doesn't always win if you become addicted to betting no matter how much money you have it will end. Once greed works it impairs your judgement leading to unexpected losses so constantly making sure you don't waste money will allow you to improve because it gives you more time to play. If you can control yourself you can bet on a variety of markets with generally favorable odds.
If gamblers think like that, they will only experience bigger losses because greed has told them to continue gambling. Playing gambling must be done with self-control so that you don't lose a lot. If he continues to gamble again later but someone finds out that he could spend a lot of money, it would be better for that person to immediately prevent him from getting deeper into gambling.

And back to the topic. His family had done the right thing and that was because they had to because they realized that the young people in their family were gambling excessively. Maybe there should be firm action like that taken by his family to prevent him from returning to gambling again. And even though the young person can go to another city just because he wants to gamble, other family members can supervise the young person so that he cannot go anywhere. This requires cooperation from all family members to ensure that the young person does not return to gambling, even in another city.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Westinhome on November 20, 2023, 05:54:55 PM

If gamblers think like that, they will only experience bigger losses because greed has told them to continue gambling. Playing gambling must be done with self-control so that you don't lose a lot. If he continues to gamble again later but someone finds out that he could spend a lot of money, it would be better for that person to immediately prevent him from getting deeper into gambling.

And back to the topic. His family had done the right thing and that was because they had to because they realized that the young people in their family were gambling excessively. Maybe there should be firm action like that taken by his family to prevent him from returning to gambling again. And even though the young person can go to another city just because he wants to gamble, other family members can supervise the young person so that he cannot go anywhere. This requires cooperation from all family members to ensure that the young person does not return to gambling, even in another city.


If the gambler say their family member about their gambling activities and ask money to do the gambling as their full time job.The family member of the gambler will not support the gambler at the money needed situation.But the same family will join the gambler after the gambler made the big win using the same gambling sites.If the family helped the gambler at the money needed situation,the gambler are not going to take any loan for the gambling.The gambling had the risk to make the big win in the gambling sites,but the gambler family was not accept their gambler family member to take that risk in the gambling,instead they ask the gambler to do the real job to support their needs in the gambling.The family member also check again and again about the family member gambler to get into the gambling and risking their money to the gambling sites.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: cafter on November 20, 2023, 06:51:08 PM
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
it's extreme move from his family members, when he is selling properties and losing hard earned money gambling then anyone's family will try to stop him, but this family did really huge move, like sueing the owner.

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
here, his family members are trying to save him, and he already may being know that they are doing this to save him.
I would not cut my family off because I would know that they care for me and want to save me.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: rachael9385 on November 20, 2023, 09:09:47 PM
The only thing that I can sell my properties for is Bitcoin, selling your things to gamble is sure to end in disaster for you, because you are betting all that money on luck, I can see that the man in the story of OP is a greedy man who only thinks for himself, that's why he won't listen to his family, they must have been telling him to stop for a long period of time before they decide to print out his photo and spread it around to make him stop gambling, the family are trying to safe themselves before the man causes more damages to their lives, my parents used to say that a gambler as a son is a lost son, as they believe or due to the past experience they have with gamblers, they believe that the son will sell everything for gambling.

Someone said this family went too far but I don't see how, if they don't stop him first he will do harm to them too, for someone who only have a house which he and his family are residing decide to sell the house so that he can gamble, where did he except his family to stay? On the streets? If he is living alone and he decide to do this to himself its better, maybe he want to sleep on the street homeless, but he shouldn't put his family in the same suffering.

I can't imagine the pain the family must have went through, this is a disgrace for them, it's a big shame and when they move out of their home every morning, they will have this feeling of embarrassment in them, as if people are all talking about them, I am sure that they must have use everything they know to make this man stop but as always, some gamblers always went too far, such people shouldn't have become a gambler from the beginning.
Selling property just to invest in Bitcoin is not 100% guaranteed of profits but it is up to 95% guaranteed, but when it comes to the other way round, like selling properties just for the sake of gamble then it is not a good idea because it is not even up to 2% sure if the gambler will win or not.
Only gamblers can do such nonsense because I don't see selling property to gamble as a good one, however what is the essence of buying the property at the first place if he or she will still sell it just because of the sake of gambling.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Litzki1990 on November 21, 2023, 01:32:42 AM
Money can be intoxicating sometimes and only a few percentage of persons in the world actually know how to control the pressure and influence that comes with money control. I have had so many friends who were successful in hitting some significant profits in gambling but all end up squandering the fund in different things just because they have this perception that it's actually free money and should be spent anyhow.
It is very difficult to be able to control the money we have no matter how much we have if we can't use it properly of course the money will easily run out and we don't even know where the money is used, when someone wins a bet in the gambling we play of course they have to be able to controlling themselves, it would be better to take the winnings they have got and enjoy them, rather than looking for bigger wins and spending all the winnings they have got.
Rightly said but there are many gamblers who don't know how to enjoy these wins. They think that once they win they will win more and then lose their control and get greedy. Gambling doesn't always win if you become addicted to betting no matter how much money you have it will end. Once greed works it impairs your judgement leading to unexpected losses so constantly making sure you don't waste money will allow you to improve because it gives you more time to play. If you can control yourself you can bet on a variety of markets with generally favorable odds.
When every gambler becomes addicted to gambling, they think two types of thoughts, one is when they win a gambling game, they become extra greedy and they become extra greedy and think to gamble more and increase the amount of money they make with each gamble. Negative is for a gambler. Another thought of gamblers who are addicted to gambling is that when they lose gambling, they will convince their mind that they should gamble more to recover the loss, they will lose again. Gambling should not be done by calculating profit or loss but gambling should be done based on one's gambling skills. If we don't have any skill about gambling but depend only on luck, we can never succeed in gambling. Just as a gambler should not be addicted to gambling, a gambler should not gamble without an understanding of gambling.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: dunfida on November 21, 2023, 01:55:18 AM
Money can be intoxicating sometimes and only a few percentage of persons in the world actually know how to control the pressure and influence that comes with money control. I have had so many friends who were successful in hitting some significant profits in gambling but all end up squandering the fund in different things just because they have this perception that it's actually free money and should be spent anyhow.
It is very difficult to be able to control the money we have no matter how much we have if we can't use it properly of course the money will easily run out and we don't even know where the money is used, when someone wins a bet in the gambling we play of course they have to be able to controlling themselves, it would be better to take the winnings they have got and enjoy them, rather than looking for bigger wins and spending all the winnings they have got.
Rightly said but there are many gamblers who don't know how to enjoy these wins. They think that once they win they will win more and then lose their control and get greedy. Gambling doesn't always win if you become addicted to betting no matter how much money you have it will end. Once greed works it impairs your judgement leading to unexpected losses so constantly making sure you don't waste money will allow you to improve because it gives you more time to play. If you can control yourself you can bet on a variety of markets with generally favorable odds.
When every gambler becomes addicted to gambling, they think two types of thoughts, one is when they win a gambling game, they become extra greedy and they become extra greedy and think to gamble more and increase the amount of money they make with each gamble. Negative is for a gambler. Another thought of gamblers who are addicted to gambling is that when they lose gambling, they will convince their mind that they should gamble more to recover the loss, they will lose again. Gambling should not be done by calculating profit or loss but gambling should be done based on one's gambling skills. If we don't have any skill about gambling but depend only on luck, we can never succeed in gambling. Just as a gambler should not be addicted to gambling, a gambler should not gamble without an understanding of gambling.
You would really be finding yourself to be that addicted even if we do say that you are really just that doing for fun or entertainment. Yes you could play for fun but when it do becomes already a habit then you would really be continuously be playing until you would really be that making yourself that gradually becoming that addicted. You would really be finding yourself that getting being swallowed with gambling until you would really be able to forgetting those playing for fun kind of line into your mind. On the time that you would really be addicted then the one would really be able to notice it first would be your family, we do know on what are the common actions or doings of a gambling addict. Ex. Selling out possession which it is really solid indication that you are already that heavily get addicted with gambling.

You would really be looking yourself that making out things and decisions which it isnt really that something that you do prefer at first place but since addiction had already shackled into you
then you wouldnt care anymore on what are the things that would happen into you as long you would really be able to make yourself that able to play
and would go the things that you do prefer or like.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: SeriouslyGiveaway on November 21, 2023, 05:59:42 AM
Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible  questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!
I couldn't imagine that nowadays a family still resorts to such methods to prevent him from gambling. It's truly absurd because they can't apply this to all gambling establishments; it only addresses a fraction and confines him within a certain range. Moreover, with online gambling available everywhere, there's no necessity to go to a specific place to engage in gambling, right?

I believe the actions of his family are not extreme but rather unwise. It's just a temporary solution, like scratching where it itches without understanding the root cause of the itch.

I don't know the current circumstances of his life, but there must be deep-rooted reasons leading to his gambling addiction. Understanding these reasons is crucial to comprehensively address the issue.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Litzki1990 on November 21, 2023, 06:49:56 AM
Money can be intoxicating sometimes and only a few percentage of persons in the world actually know how to control the pressure and influence that comes with money control. I have had so many friends who were successful in hitting some significant profits in gambling but all end up squandering the fund in different things just because they have this perception that it's actually free money and should be spent anyhow.
It is very difficult to be able to control the money we have no matter how much we have if we can't use it properly of course the money will easily run out and we don't even know where the money is used, when someone wins a bet in the gambling we play of course they have to be able to controlling themselves, it would be better to take the winnings they have got and enjoy them, rather than looking for bigger wins and spending all the winnings they have got.
Rightly said but there are many gamblers who don't know how to enjoy these wins. They think that once they win they will win more and then lose their control and get greedy. Gambling doesn't always win if you become addicted to betting no matter how much money you have it will end. Once greed works it impairs your judgement leading to unexpected losses so constantly making sure you don't waste money will allow you to improve because it gives you more time to play. If you can control yourself you can bet on a variety of markets with generally favorable odds.
When every gambler becomes addicted to gambling, they think two types of thoughts, one is when they win a gambling game, they become extra greedy and they become extra greedy and think to gamble more and increase the amount of money they make with each gamble. Negative is for a gambler. Another thought of gamblers who are addicted to gambling is that when they lose gambling, they will convince their mind that they should gamble more to recover the loss, they will lose again. Gambling should not be done by calculating profit or loss but gambling should be done based on one's gambling skills. If we don't have any skill about gambling but depend only on luck, we can never succeed in gambling. Just as a gambler should not be addicted to gambling, a gambler should not gamble without an understanding of gambling.
You would really be finding yourself to be that addicted even if we do say that you are really just that doing for fun or entertainment. Yes you could play for fun but when it do becomes already a habit then you would really be continuously be playing until you would really be that making yourself that gradually becoming that addicted. You would really be finding yourself that getting being swallowed with gambling until you would really be able to forgetting those playing for fun kind of line into your mind. On the time that you would really be addicted then the one would really be able to notice it first would be your family, we do know on what are the common actions or doings of a gambling addict. Ex. Selling out possession which it is really solid indication that you are already that heavily get addicted with gambling.

You would really be looking yourself that making out things and decisions which it isnt really that something that you do prefer at first place but since addiction had already shackled into you
then you wouldnt care anymore on what are the things that would happen into you as long you would really be able to make yourself that able to play
and would go the things that you do prefer or like.
Now I take gambling as fun but in the beginning I didn't take gambling as fun at all but in the beginning I started gambling with hope of profit. When I started gambling I had this idea in my mind that I would earn a lot of money by gambling and I would never lose my money by gambling. When I start gambling with such ideas, I realize that the reality is something different. Gambling is not as easy as I thought but rather it requires a lot of skill and experience. In the beginning I didn't use any of my skills in gambling because of which I lost most of the gambling games but now I feel that I am good enough in gambling now that maybe I don't lose much in gambling now. I made some mistakes in the beginning and because of those mistakes, I have gained enough skill in gambling today.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: zuzie on November 21, 2023, 07:28:41 AM
Money can be intoxicating sometimes and only a few percentage of persons in the world actually know how to control the pressure and influence that comes with money control. I have had so many friends who were successful in hitting some significant profits in gambling but all end up squandering the fund in different things just because they have this perception that it's actually free money and should be spent anyhow.
It is very difficult to be able to control the money we have no matter how much we have if we can't use it properly of course the money will easily run out and we don't even know where the money is used, when someone wins a bet in the gambling we play of course they have to be able to controlling themselves, it would be better to take the winnings they have got and enjoy them, rather than looking for bigger wins and spending all the winnings they have got.

Agree with you, it is very difficult for someone to control himself when gambling because in gambling places there are lots of interesting things that he wants to try and maybe he has the idea that he will be able to win so he will gamble continuously without stopping. . looking at the money he has and he will only realize when he has used up his money for gambling, then he will realize and perhaps regret his actions because he cannot control himself when placing bets.
Yes, that's right, what a gambler has to do when he wins, he should leave the place and have fun enjoying his winnings, but we all don't know that the temptation in the casino is very strong, if we are weak in control then at that time we will become blind and continuing to gamble, we must avoid this as early as possible so that we don't regret it later.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Lida93 on November 21, 2023, 01:56:39 PM
Money can be intoxicating sometimes and only a few percentage of persons in the world actually know how to control the pressure and influence that comes with money control. I have had so many friends who were successful in hitting some significant profits in gambling but all end up squandering the fund in different things just because they have this perception that it's actually free money and should be spent anyhow.
It is very difficult to be able to control the money we have no matter how much we have if we can't use it properly of course the money will easily run out and we don't even know where the money is used, when someone wins a bet in the gambling we play of course they have to be able to controlling themselves, it would be better to take the winnings they have got and enjoy them, rather than looking for bigger wins and spending all the winnings they have got.
Money is like a child you have to train it well to have a good profit from it. When you often put or spend your money in the wrong places no matter how abundant the money is it will eventually finish and you go bankrupt and next step in maintaining that elevated standard of a lifestyle is by auctioning a few valuable properties you have, and many gamblers are hooked in this nest.

Silly when I see gamblers spend their winning money anyhow and when you attempt talking to them about it they tell you that they're going to have another win again so let them spend this very one, forgetting that there are some gamblers like them in the queue for luck waiting for their own turn to have a lumpy win too.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: rojan on November 21, 2023, 02:24:02 PM
Money can be intoxicating sometimes and only a few percentage of persons in the world actually know how to control the pressure and influence that comes with money control. I have had so many friends who were successful in hitting some significant profits in gambling but all end up squandering the fund in different things just because they have this perception that it's actually free money and should be spent anyhow.
It is very difficult to be able to control the money we have no matter how much we have if we can't use it properly of course the money will easily run out and we don't even know where the money is used, when someone wins a bet in the gambling we play of course they have to be able to controlling themselves, it would be better to take the winnings they have got and enjoy them, rather than looking for bigger wins and spending all the winnings they have got.
Rightly said but there are many gamblers who don't know how to enjoy these wins. They think that once they win they will win more and then lose their control and get greedy. Gambling doesn't always win if you become addicted to betting no matter how much money you have it will end. Once greed works it impairs your judgement leading to unexpected losses so constantly making sure you don't waste money will allow you to improve because it gives you more time to play. If you can control yourself you can bet on a variety of markets with generally favorable odds.
It is very difficult to control yourself while gambling. Those who can control themselves and gamble will never lose gambling. It is foolish to gamble with the hope of winning while gambling. Because it is very difficult to know when gambling is profit or loss.  Then you should refrain from gambling for some time. If you lose a lot of money, then you should refrain from gambling for some time because the money will be less risky.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: aioc on November 21, 2023, 03:37:30 PM


She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible  questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
Not only are the family members getting disgraced but they are disgracing the whole family, they should find a way to solve this quietly among themselves and not to the point of humiliating one of their members

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2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
If my family is poor then I can share even a small portion of my winning, it's my family after all, they may have a rift but in the end, WE are still a family and we will have to look to each other for better or for worse, you cannot just get away from your family or abandon them, I will just give a portion of my winning and then go on my own and prove to them that I can stand on my own.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: maydna on November 21, 2023, 04:41:06 PM
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If the gambler say their family member about their gambling activities and ask money to do the gambling as their full time job.The family member of the gambler will not support the gambler at the money needed situation.But the same family will join the gambler after the gambler made the big win using the same gambling sites.If the family helped the gambler at the money needed situation,the gambler are not going to take any loan for the gambling.The gambling had the risk to make the big win in the gambling sites,but the gambler family was not accept their gambler family member to take that risk in the gambling,instead they ask the gambler to do the real job to support their needs in the gambling.The family member also check again and again about the family member gambler to get into the gambling and risking their money to the gambling sites.
Obviously, family members of gamblers will not support gamblers who need money to gamble. They will probably strictly prohibit and will not let the gambler go anywhere and will not even be allowed to carry a smartphone. But perhaps his family will give him an old cellphone that is not connected to the internet and can only make calls and receive calls or SMS. No family wants to see their family members experiencing problems caused by gambling, so they will really look after their family members well and try to ensure that they protect their family members well. By keeping the gambler from wandering outside the house or even allowing him to go to another city just to gamble, other family members hope they can help cure his gambling addiction.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: wiss19 on November 21, 2023, 05:08:46 PM
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
No, they didn't. They did what they could think of being the last way of trying to stop him because they must have already tried stopping the guy and advising him not to gamble that much but I bet he didn't listen and kept doing it, so they decided to take this step and I don't see anything wrong with that because whatever they did was to keep him safe from doing bad things soon since that is where gambling addiction leads one to.

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
Why live alone if you have become wealthy and now can afford to gamble? Just go back to your family, and give them some money because they did a lot for you when you weren't wealthy, whatever they did was just to stop your compulsive gambling habit which could harm you in the long run, but now when you have wealth, you can start your businesses, earn revenue from them, and gamble just for fun and the family would have no issues now, I'm sure.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Z_MBFM on November 21, 2023, 05:22:05 PM

1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
Older people always dislike gambling and youth are more prone to gambling. And when any young son or daughter of the family becomes addicted to gambling, the family members try hard to get that boy out of gambling addiction.  They are willing to do anything for him because they know that gambling will darken the future of the young boy.

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2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
Money is one thing that everyone is blind to. When someone wins millions of dollars in gambling, that's what anyone who always pressured him to quit gambling knows. He too will love her and be happy to hear about that money. But if something like this happens to me, I will not tell that person, but at that time I will give up gambling and explain to him that I have given up gambling altogether and will use that money for some good business. And will never share this with more people. Because sharing this matter can increase the danger


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Accardo on November 21, 2023, 05:36:30 PM
The only thing that I can sell my properties for is Bitcoin, selling your things to gamble is sure to end in disaster for you, because you are betting all that money on luck, I can see that the man in the story of OP is a greedy man who only thinks for himself, that's why he won't listen to his family, they must have been telling him to stop for a long period of time before they decide to print out his photo and spread it around to make him stop gambling, the family are trying to safe themselves before the man causes more damages to their lives, my parents used to say that a gambler as a son is a lost son, as they believe or due to the past experience they have with gamblers, they believe that the son will sell everything for gambling.

Someone said this family went too far but I don't see how, if they don't stop him first he will do harm to them too, for someone who only have a house which he and his family are residing decide to sell the house so that he can gamble, where did he except his family to stay? On the streets? If he is living alone and he decide to do this to himself its better, maybe he want to sleep on the street homeless, but he shouldn't put his family in the same suffering.

I can't imagine the pain the family must have went through, this is a disgrace for them, it's a big shame and when they move out of their home every morning, they will have this feeling of embarrassment in them, as if people are all talking about them, I am sure that they must have use everything they know to make this man stop but as always, some gamblers always went too far, such people shouldn't have become a gambler from the beginning.

Look, spreading his photos around his street, like a lost person, wouldn't solve the difficult problem. He is struggling with addiction and this method can't stop him. By any means he'll be elligible to gambling outside his province. Inviting him to order, is the best tool required to fix a broken person. Although, it's not simple, as it'll need his cooperation. Reading the story, he failed to cooperate with his parents, and it led to a public disgrace of the young gambler. If they had a second thought, working on his resistant would solve a bit of his problem of avoiding them, if he did. Have a rethink on if the boy doesn't return home again forever. Who is going to feel the most pain? his parents of course, as relatives would flood them with millions of questions about their son's where about. It's indeed a shame, but we need to control our actions towards our wards. No matter what they do, they still are our loved ones. His parents are acting out of fear. The reason, because gambling has destroyed many homes. Their son is doing it already, improvising a solution as that as their all. Elaborates how unprepared they are in stopping the bad habit of their son. Investing anger on the boy, will only get them extra disgrace in future. Nobody cares if he wins big later, like OP said. What matters is changing him, first. After that, the family can send him to learn skill. Distracting him from any thought of moving back into gambling.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Dewi Aries on November 21, 2023, 05:40:36 PM
Money can be intoxicating sometimes and only a few percentage of persons in the world actually know how to control the pressure and influence that comes with money control. I have had so many friends who were successful in hitting some significant profits in gambling but all end up squandering the fund in different things just because they have this perception that it's actually free money and should be spent anyhow.
It is very difficult to be able to control the money we have no matter how much we have if we can't use it properly of course the money will easily run out and we don't even know where the money is used, when someone wins a bet in the gambling we play of course they have to be able to controlling themselves, it would be better to take the winnings they have got and enjoy them, rather than looking for bigger wins and spending all the winnings they have got.
Most gamblers can't keep that money after they win. As soon as they win, they want to use the money for various purposes and at one point even spend their entire winnings. But they should understand what happens if they lose when gambling again after winning. Where the money will come from at that time? Every gambler should conduct gambling with patience and spend the winnings properly. If the winning money can be invested in any investment or profitable venture then the money can support the gambler in transition from there. Since there is no guarantee of winning in gambling, gambling can be managed well if money is adequate for gambling.

But as far as I know, usually when they get a win, let alone to spend it, sometimes just to withdraw it they can't, because they are tempted by the bigger winnings they expect, because with a small winnings it makes them more confident with the next winnings they will get and bigger wins, even though it is not necessarily possible to get it, because if like that they can lose the winnings they have got, and in the end they will get a defeat that will make them upset with the lost winnings.
As you said,  gambling cannot guarantee a win that will be easy to get. Because casino gambling also creates the game to make money not to give money to the players easily. So they should be aware of the meaning of gambling which is only for entertainment, not to provide large amounts of winnings. and they should be able to control themselves by when they get the winnings, they immediately cash them out, not playing them again. because if that's the case, they will lose the winnings they have got.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Cookdata on November 21, 2023, 05:51:54 PM
If I am very addicted and if my family is trying to help me quit, I won't blame and stop them. But wherever my feet is going to bring me, it's not their problem anymore but mine. So that's how an addicted gambler is and you're not going to stop until you're wholly stopped by your own and these posters or photographs that are given to the casinos just for them to recognize me, that's fine as they're just doing their thing to help me get out of addiction.

The way you say it is not the way addiction is in reality. See gambling addiction as a mad or insane person. When a mentally disturbed person is having problem, when they want to help him out, you will see that he will be resisting help and will be saying that he is fine and there is nothing absolutely wrong with him, that's exactly how gambling addicts behave too. So when you said "if your family members really want to help you, you will gladly accept it the help will not be the case" you will probably reject any help that comes your way and quit will be the last thing you will want to do.

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And with winning, I'll still give them their share of course. They're not other people and I have nothing against them, no grudge or what not and that's just me being me when I continue to gamble and all they trying to do is to help me out. So why wouldn't I share some money on them when I have won when I know that they have pure intentions and they don't want me to get to the extent to see me suffering and all they give me is the help that they can for me even if it means of stopping me to get into gambling shops. And if they were successful, I understand that there will be no prize money that shall be shared to them. Again, that's just me being me and I think some of you guys are also like that.

Family is one of the great memories we share but have you experienced when family don't like you and push someone to extreme without love? The only thing that can stop you from giving them attention is when you notice that they really need help.

I have seen someone that is not gambling addict but a kleptomaniac abandoned because they couldn't help him any more, they couldn't help stop his addiction to stealing properties that is not his. You know the problem with these set of people, they pick things they don't even need and the family let him be but along the line, he change but never contacted his family again until he heard that his mother was seriously ill before before he paid them a visit. Just hope you don't get less value by the people you love dearly despite your condition.



Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Quidat on November 21, 2023, 05:59:43 PM
The only thing that I can sell my properties for is Bitcoin, selling your things to gamble is sure to end in disaster for you, because you are betting all that money on luck, I can see that the man in the story of OP is a greedy man who only thinks for himself, that's why he won't listen to his family, they must have been telling him to stop for a long period of time before they decide to print out his photo and spread it around to make him stop gambling, the family are trying to safe themselves before the man causes more damages to their lives, my parents used to say that a gambler as a son is a lost son, as they believe or due to the past experience they have with gamblers, they believe that the son will sell everything for gambling.

Someone said this family went too far but I don't see how, if they don't stop him first he will do harm to them too, for someone who only have a house which he and his family are residing decide to sell the house so that he can gamble, where did he except his family to stay? On the streets? If he is living alone and he decide to do this to himself its better, maybe he want to sleep on the street homeless, but he shouldn't put his family in the same suffering.

I can't imagine the pain the family must have went through, this is a disgrace for them, it's a big shame and when they move out of their home every morning, they will have this feeling of embarrassment in them, as if people are all talking about them, I am sure that they must have use everything they know to make this man stop but as always, some gamblers always went too far, such people shouldn't have become a gambler from the beginning.

Look, spreading his photos around his street, like a lost person, wouldn't solve the difficult problem. He is struggling with addiction and this method can't stop him. By any means he'll be elligible to gambling outside his province. Inviting him to order, is the best tool required to fix a broken person. Although, it's not simple, as it'll need his cooperation. Reading the story, he failed to cooperate with his parents, and it led to a public disgrace of the young gambler. If they had a second thought, working on his resistant would solve a bit of his problem of avoiding them, if he did. Have a rethink on if the boy doesn't return home again forever. Who is going to feel the most pain? his parents of course, as relatives would flood them with millions of questions about their son's where about. It's indeed a shame, but we need to control our actions towards our wards. No matter what they do, they still are our loved ones. His parents are acting out of fear. The reason, because gambling has destroyed many homes. Their son is doing it already, improvising a solution as that as their all. Elaborates how unprepared they are in stopping the bad habit of their son. Investing anger on the boy, will only get them extra disgrace in future. Nobody cares if he wins big later, like OP said. What matters is changing him, first. After that, the family can send him to learn skill. Distracting him from any thought of moving back into gambling.
But at least they are really making or doing some action for them to be able to completely stop one of their family members that had already become addicted to gambling.
It might be looking to be pointless but this is one of the way that they are showing love since they do really care on you then doesnt matter if they would really be making or doing
things which is really just that good for you. It might be somewhat no sense on letting those gambling places prohibits you on gambling just because your family
had told them about on doing so then it is really that shows on how much they do care.It might really be looking that it is too much but it is actually that something
that you could say that your family loves you on which they did really go into such extent.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: passwordnow on November 21, 2023, 09:22:58 PM
If I am very addicted and if my family is trying to help me quit, I won't blame and stop them. But wherever my feet is going to bring me, it's not their problem anymore but mine. So that's how an addicted gambler is and you're not going to stop until you're wholly stopped by your own and these posters or photographs that are given to the casinos just for them to recognize me, that's fine as they're just doing their thing to help me get out of addiction.

The way you say it is not the way addiction is in reality. See gambling addiction as a mad or insane person. When a mentally disturbed person is having problem, when they want to help him out, you will see that he will be resisting help and will be saying that he is fine and there is nothing absolutely wrong with him, that's exactly how gambling addicts behave too. So when you said "if your family members really want to help you, you will gladly accept it the help will not be the case" you will probably reject any help that comes your way and quit will be the last thing you will want to do.
That's why I'll just bring it on my own and this problem of being addicted, I'll deal alone. I think it varies per person and the ones that you've seen behaved like that is truly a mad and sane addicted gambler. But IMO, we've got differences to our attitude and how we're dealing with this problem. But that's just me.

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And with winning, I'll still give them their share of course. They're not other people and I have nothing against them, no grudge or what not and that's just me being me when I continue to gamble and all they trying to do is to help me out. So why wouldn't I share some money on them when I have won when I know that they have pure intentions and they don't want me to get to the extent to see me suffering and all they give me is the help that they can for me even if it means of stopping me to get into gambling shops. And if they were successful, I understand that there will be no prize money that shall be shared to them. Again, that's just me being me and I think some of you guys are also like that.
Family is one of the great memories we share but have you experienced when family don't like you and push someone to extreme without love? The only thing that can stop you from giving them attention is when you notice that they really need help.

I have seen someone that is not gambling addict but a kleptomaniac abandoned because they couldn't help him any more, they couldn't help stop his addiction to stealing properties that is not his. You know the problem with these set of people, they pick things they don't even need and the family let him be but along the line, he change but never contacted his family again until he heard that his mother was seriously ill before before he paid them a visit. Just hope you don't get less value by the people you love dearly despite your condition.
I agree that when someone reaches to the peak of addiction, they can do a lot of crazy things just like the one that you've seen. With that, it's totally going to be abandoned by the family that he's got when he's doing unstoppable crazy stuff. I am not going to justify addiction but as I've said, it varies per person and the difference on it from the kleptomaniac, is that they're addicted to different things but again, that's how addiction can lead someone to. And from the situation that's given by the OP, it's wholly different and not that brutal as the ones you've exampled.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: 348Judah on November 21, 2023, 09:48:13 PM
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?!

Yes and that's insane, they have taken it too personal and very high, why should the gambling shops be responsible for their son actions with gambling, what if he decides to go other places different from the neighborhood, what if he sent someone there to place the bet for him and bring him the ticket, they should better control their child instead of the gambling platforms and what they are doing is unlawful, it's just an empty threat.

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

We all know that winning a huge sum of money in gambling is not that common, so we have to understand that this is a rare occasion, but as you've said already, if he won big, it's left to him, because he knows well his family members, if they will still mock him and reject him then he may distant himself from them for some time, make business and go back home to show them he's into something and not that he won a jackpot through gambling in other for them not to despise him.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Accardo on November 21, 2023, 11:03:48 PM

Look, spreading his photos around his street, like a lost person, wouldn't solve the difficult problem. He is struggling with addiction and this method can't stop him. By any means he'll be eligible to gambling outside his province. Inviting him to order, is the best tool required to fix a broken person. Although, it's not simple, as it'll need his cooperation. Reading the story, he failed to cooperate with his parents, and it led to a public disgrace of the young gambler. If they had a second thought, working on his resistant would solve a bit of his problem of avoiding them, if he did. Have a rethink on if the boy doesn't return home again forever. Who is going to feel the most pain? his parents of course, as relatives would flood them with millions of questions about their son's where about. It's indeed a shame, but we need to control our actions towards our wards. No matter what they do, they still are our loved ones. His parents are acting out of fear. The reason, because gambling has destroyed many homes. Their son is doing it already, improvising a solution as that as their all. Elaborates how unprepared they are in stopping the bad habit of their son. Investing anger on the boy, will only get them extra disgrace in future. Nobody cares if he wins big later, like OP said. What matters is changing him, first. After that, the family can send him to learn skill. Distracting him from any thought of moving back into gambling.
But at least they are really making or doing some action for them to be able to completely stop one of their family members that had already become addicted to gambling.
It might be looking to be pointless but this is one of the way that they are showing love since they do really care on you then doesnt matter if they would really be making or doing
things which is really just that good for you. It might be somewhat no sense on letting those gambling places prohibits you on gambling just because your family
had told them about on doing so then it is really that shows on how much they do care.It might really be looking that it is too much but it is actually that something
that you could say that your family loves you on which they did really go into such extent.

It's better than not doing anything, yes. We both know that it'll piss the gambler off. When their help affects the addicted person emotionally, would it be seen as help anymore? No. I understand it's their personal way of being caring to their loved one, but that doesn't look like kindness. This is just my opinion, and I'll express my feeling in a way it'll suit me. We all, not sure for you, have been through some misunderstanding with family. And when they extend it to third parties, it always doesn't end well. Nothing is too much for a family to settle internally. Unless the boy appreciates what his parents did. The voice on your text, sound like a situation where the boy is seeking help. Even if he's seeking help from his parent, at some point he'll regret such a rigorous idea of publishing his face on gambling houses. But, from the thread, he wasn't asking for help. I think he's into addiction and not yet ready to quit gambling. Hence, applying the tough strategy won't melt the heart of the gambler. If he already wants to change, and agreed with his parents to do it on his behalf. It'll be better understood by everyone, that stands with the idea of the boy's reputation being mishandled by his parents. Whatever is happening today can determine our future. Who would hire him? even though he changes. The whole neighborhood now know of his bad habit. He'll be ashamed of returning to the street.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Odusko on November 21, 2023, 11:15:50 PM

But as far as I know, usually when they get a win, let alone to spend it, sometimes just to withdraw it they can't, because they are tempted by the bigger winnings they expect, because with a small winnings it makes them more confident with the next winnings they will get and bigger wins, even though it is not necessarily possible to get it because if like that they can lose the winnings they have got, and in the end they will get a defeat that will make them upset with the lost winnings.
As you said,  gambling cannot guarantee a win that will be easy to get. Because casino gambling also creates the game to make money not to give money to the players easily. So they should be aware of the meaning of gambling which is only for entertainment, not to provide large amounts of winnings. and they should be able to control themselves by when they get the winnings, they immediately cash them out, not playing them again. because if that's the case, they will lose the winnings they have got.
The thing that kill many gamblers in terms of loses records is their inability to walk away after a test of the winnings,  and casinos are aware of that and that is why their always make every possible attempts to offers you early winning to keep you stick in and eventually losing more in the process, this is a mechanism that many gamblers are not aware of and reason why most of them always end of recording more loses tan winning.
For instance when I placed a vet with an odds of 2.8 and the result came out as winning, I immediately withdrew my winning and walked away looking forward to another great day when and when my luck would shine once again.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Ben Barubal on November 21, 2023, 11:49:51 PM

1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
Older people always dislike gambling and youth are more prone to gambling. And when any young son or daughter of the family becomes addicted to gambling, the family members try hard to get that boy out of gambling addiction.  They are willing to do anything for him because they know that gambling will darken the future of the young boy.

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2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
Money is one thing that everyone is blind to. When someone wins millions of dollars in gambling, that's what anyone who always pressured him to quit gambling knows. He too will love her and be happy to hear about that money. But if something like this happens to me, I will not tell that person, but at that time I will give up gambling and explain to him that I have given up gambling altogether and will use that money for some good business. And will never share this with more people. Because sharing this matter can increase the danger

  Then what sane parent wants or would want their child to learn to gamble if they know it will not bring anything good to their child, right? As you mentioned, parents will do anything for their children; that's true, unless the parents are also addicted to gambling. They say what the tree is, so is the fruit, for sure.

  But in a situation like that, I think if I'm the one in that child's situation, of course a parent is a parent; that can't be changed.
I'll just understand them, and I'll still be blessed with what I have, of course.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: klidex on November 22, 2023, 01:19:25 AM
Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible  questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!
I couldn't imagine that nowadays a family still resorts to such methods to prevent him from gambling. It's truly absurd because they can't apply this to all gambling establishments; it only addresses a fraction and confines him within a certain range. Moreover, with online gambling available everywhere, there's no necessity to go to a specific place to engage in gambling, right?

I believe the actions of his family are not extreme but rather unwise. It's just a temporary solution, like scratching where it itches without understanding the root cause of the itch.

I don't know the current circumstances of his life, but there must be deep-rooted reasons leading to his gambling addiction. Understanding these reasons is crucial to comprehensively address the issue.
Indeed, this is an act that is not very wise in giving a firm stance so that family member do not gamble again. As family members, it is true that we must have sympathy and help family members who are involved in compulsive gambling, but if the sibling who gambles has no intention of to stoped gambling, he will continue to do it secretly until no one in his family knows about his activities. And if he has been gambling secretly, we all know that this will pose a greater risk if the family only knows that gambling is like that, let alone openly keep quiet? It will definitely be even more dangerous as family members should give advice and accompany him, not pressure him, forcing him to immediately stop by force.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 22, 2023, 04:38:07 AM
Indeed, this is an act that is not very wise in giving a firm stance so that family member do not gamble again. As family members, it is true that we must have sympathy and help family members who are involved in compulsive gambling, but if the sibling who gambles has no intention of to stoped gambling, he will continue to do it secretly until no one in his family knows about his activities. And if he has been gambling secretly, we all know that this will pose a greater risk if the family only knows that gambling is like that, let alone openly keep quiet? It will definitely be even more dangerous as family members should give advice and accompany him, not pressure him, forcing him to immediately stop by force.
Maybe they really need firm action so they can suppress their disturbing gambling habits. There are many other reasons why family members have to do extreme things, in our opinion, because the gambler or his family members can no longer control their gambling. If we don't take firm action, the gambler won't get any warning, even from his friends, because maybe his friends don't care about what happens next. But I agree with advising the gambler to abandon his gambling activities because it has caused him a lot of problems while he is gambling. The gambler may need someone who can understand the circumstances that make him choose to gamble rather than do other things. If they can make the gambler aware of various approaches, the gambler will not feel forced to abandon gambling.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: rachael9385 on November 22, 2023, 03:59:13 PM

But as far as I know, usually when they get a win, let alone to spend it, sometimes just to withdraw it they can't, because they are tempted by the bigger winnings they expect, because with a small winnings it makes them more confident with the next winnings they will get and bigger wins, even though it is not necessarily possible to get it because if like that they can lose the winnings they have got, and in the end they will get a defeat that will make them upset with the lost winnings.
As you said,  gambling cannot guarantee a win that will be easy to get. Because casino gambling also creates the game to make money not to give money to the players easily. So they should be aware of the meaning of gambling which is only for entertainment, not to provide large amounts of winnings. and they should be able to control themselves by when they get the winnings, they immediately cash them out, not playing them again. because if that's the case, they will lose the winnings they have got.
The thing that kill many gamblers in terms of loses records is their inability to walk away after a test of the winnings,  and casinos are aware of that and that is why their always make every possible attempts to offers you early winning to keep you stick in and eventually losing more in the process, this is a mechanism that many gamblers are not aware of and reason why most of them always end of recording more loses tan winning.
For instance when I placed a vet with an odds of 2.8 and the result came out as winning, I immediately withdrew my winning and walked away looking forward to another great day when and when my luck would shine once again.
If not the luck I don't see how a gambler will win millions of dollars with just $10 or $50, but many gamblers don't believe that luck exist in gamble, no one can easily get such luck but trying ones in a while and not always all the time is a good idea, if a gambler gamble all the time the gambler will easily become addicted to gamble.
Living the casino center after doubling up the little money that you came with is the best, if a gambler thinks that he or she can win more at that time then the gambler is fully wrong, no gambler wants to lose in gambling but we can't chase winnings rather losing will chase us, but luck can only help us to double our money or win big.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: pawanjain on November 22, 2023, 04:07:26 PM

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

1. If I was from his family I would do everything I can to save my family member from galing.

But

2. If I were a compulsive gambler I would go as far as wanted so that I can gamble.

So it depends on how strong one's effort.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Dewi Aries on November 22, 2023, 04:29:43 PM

But as far as I know, usually when they get a win, let alone to spend it, sometimes just to withdraw it they can't, because they are tempted by the bigger winnings they expect, because with a small winnings it makes them more confident with the next winnings they will get and bigger wins, even though it is not necessarily possible to get it because if like that they can lose the winnings they have got, and in the end they will get a defeat that will make them upset with the lost winnings.
As you said,  gambling cannot guarantee a win that will be easy to get. Because casino gambling also creates the game to make money not to give money to the players easily. So they should be aware of the meaning of gambling which is only for entertainment, not to provide large amounts of winnings. and they should be able to control themselves by when they get the winnings, they immediately cash them out, not playing them again. because if that's the case, they will lose the winnings they have got.
The thing that kill many gamblers in terms of loses records is their inability to walk away after a test of the winnings,  and casinos are aware of that and that is why their always make every possible attempts to offers you early winning to keep you stick in and eventually losing more in the process, this is a mechanism that many gamblers are not aware of and reason why most of them always end of recording more loses tan winning.
For instance when I placed a vet with an odds of 2.8 and the result came out as winning, I immediately withdrew my winning and walked away looking forward to another great day when and when my luck would shine once again.

And that's the reality that many people do, with the difficulty of cashing out or withdrawing the winnings they have gotten, so they continue to play to get a bigger win, and maybe this choice will kill them themselves because the chances of getting another win are very slim and almost impossible to get a bigger win. With the initial win that they get, I think it's just a kasnio trick to attract more people who play so that they will continue to pursue bigger wins.
This is difficult to avoid by people who gamble. But it is natural that they want a bigger win, because everyone who plays also wants it, but unfortunately it is difficult to get and what happens instead they lose more money.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: hedgeh0g on November 22, 2023, 04:37:42 PM
Indeed, this is an act that is not very wise in giving a firm stance so that family member do not gamble again. As family members, it is true that we must have sympathy and help family members who are involved in compulsive gambling, but if the sibling who gambles has no intention of to stoped gambling, he will continue to do it secretly until no one in his family knows about his activities. And if he has been gambling secretly, we all know that this will pose a greater risk if the family only knows that gambling is like that, let alone openly keep quiet? It will definitely be even more dangerous as family members should give advice and accompany him, not pressure him, forcing him to immediately stop by force.
Maybe they really need firm action so they can suppress their disturbing gambling habits. There are many other reasons why family members have to do extreme things, in our opinion, because the gambler or his family members can no longer control their gambling. If we don't take firm action, the gambler won't get any warning, even from his friends, because maybe his friends don't care about what happens next. But I agree with advising the gambler to abandon his gambling activities because it has caused him a lot of problems while he is gambling. The gambler may need someone who can understand the circumstances that make him choose to gamble rather than do other things. If they can make the gambler aware of various approaches, the gambler will not feel forced to abandon gambling.
I sometimes think that the reason why a player cannot give up games is simply laziness. He wants to get rich and do nothing, pressing a couple of buttons while looking at the monitor, although we all know the value of money and how difficult it is to get, especially not in rich countries. Before that, he will wake up well-rested because he doesn’t have to go to work. He knows that he can borrow money from friends under any pretext. Let him even tell you that mom needs money for pills because of health problems. I consider it important to never, under any pretext, lend money to such dependent people. This will allow him to quickly understand what bottom he is on. Of course, the addicted player does not even admit to himself that he is lazy.



Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Marvelman on November 22, 2023, 05:03:14 PM
I sometimes think that the reason why a player cannot give up games is simply laziness. He wants to get rich and do nothing, pressing a couple of buttons while looking at the monitor, although we all know the value of money and how difficult it is to get, especially not in rich countries. Before that, he will wake up well-rested because he doesn’t have to go to work.

Sure, it'd be nice to earn bucks without breaking a sweat.  But that lazy dream ain't reality and  making bank takes hustle no matter where you live.  Even casino games take skill and effort to win big.  And for most folks gaming wont pay the bills anyway.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Accardo on November 22, 2023, 07:27:08 PM
I sometimes think that the reason why a player cannot give up games is simply laziness. He wants to get rich and do nothing, pressing a couple of buttons while looking at the monitor, although we all know the value of money and how difficult it is to get, especially not in rich countries. Before that, he will wake up well-rested because he doesn’t have to go to work.

Sure, it'd be nice to earn bucks without breaking a sweat.  But that lazy dream ain't reality and  making bank takes hustle no matter where you live.  Even casino games take skill and effort to win big.  And for most folks gaming wont pay the bills anyway.


It takes struggle to change a habit. The laziness in your context should be generally categorized on every factor needed to quit gambling. Since they earn little in gambling and lose more, what's there to stay between a rock and a hard place? Both sides of the coin doesn't seem favorable anymore. When they try, fear of who to run to, embraces them with both hands. Erupting a double trouble in their inner subconscious. They'll miss their therapy sessions, as they can't express the pains once in the therapy room. Difficulty clusters them, they're on the defensive side of the struggle. We all, think differently of what we haven't seen or watch others go through. The deniable nature of friends, depress them to a maximum point of voluntary isolation. Thereby leaving the addict, in a world of shadows. Black and blank. Still hitting those unforegoable buttons, as the only natural companion, left. The skills and effort to win big, less bothers them. They are eager to change, but helps is not forthcoming. Lame people would blame them, for instigating suffer on themself. These are unerasable emotional trauma. Ever spent time with a survived addict? He'll keep lamenting on the ill treatments he received, while in his struggle to change. I understood, that while addicted, the ball, to change, isn't in their court anymore. It's now a mental disorder, and requires adequate attention, to save the addict from a fatal and fearsome life situation.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: carlfebz2 on November 22, 2023, 07:36:16 PM
Indeed, this is an act that is not very wise in giving a firm stance so that family member do not gamble again. As family members, it is true that we must have sympathy and help family members who are involved in compulsive gambling, but if the sibling who gambles has no intention of to stoped gambling, he will continue to do it secretly until no one in his family knows about his activities. And if he has been gambling secretly, we all know that this will pose a greater risk if the family only knows that gambling is like that, let alone openly keep quiet? It will definitely be even more dangerous as family members should give advice and accompany him, not pressure him, forcing him to immediately stop by force.
Maybe they really need firm action so they can suppress their disturbing gambling habits. There are many other reasons why family members have to do extreme things, in our opinion, because the gambler or his family members can no longer control their gambling. If we don't take firm action, the gambler won't get any warning, even from his friends, because maybe his friends don't care about what happens next. But I agree with advising the gambler to abandon his gambling activities because it has caused him a lot of problems while he is gambling. The gambler may need someone who can understand the circumstances that make him choose to gamble rather than do other things. If they can make the gambler aware of various approaches, the gambler will not feel forced to abandon gambling.
I sometimes think that the reason why a player cannot give up games is simply laziness. He wants to get rich and do nothing, pressing a couple of buttons while looking at the monitor, although we all know the value of money and how difficult it is to get, especially not in rich countries. Before that, he will wake up well-rested because he doesn’t have to go to work. He knows that he can borrow money from friends under any pretext. Let him even tell you that mom needs money for pills because of health problems. I consider it important to never, under any pretext, lend money to such dependent people. This will allow him to quickly understand what bottom he is on. Of course, the addicted player does not even admit to himself that he is lazy.


People would really be going into the simplest thing as possible on which they would really be focusing on paths on which they do know that they could really be able to take advantage or something that it is really that too easy for them to deal with or something that they could easily be able to get involved with. Yes, gambling could make you rich but thats if you do able to hit up some jackpots and this is something which is really that impossible to happen easily because this would really be requiring that being lucky into those certain moments on which we know that this something that cant really be achieved easily
specially on gambling field.

In talks about family's action when it comes to this  scenario then it would be normal that they would really be doing things which it is really just that right to do so specially if its really that involving
family members whose really that getting addicted with gambling. You would really be able to see that they would really be putting up so much care on a certain family member
on which actions be made would really be going into those certain extents on which there's no sense if you would really be getting mad into.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Sanugarid on November 22, 2023, 07:57:41 PM
Money can be intoxicating sometimes and only a few percentage of persons in the world actually know how to control the pressure and influence that comes with money control. I have had so many friends who were successful in hitting some significant profits in gambling but all end up squandering the fund in different things just because they have this perception that it's actually free money and should be spent anyhow.
It is very difficult to be able to control the money we have no matter how much we have if we can't use it properly of course the money will easily run out and we don't even know where the money is used, when someone wins a bet in the gambling we play of course they have to be able to controlling themselves, it would be better to take the winnings they have got and enjoy them, rather than looking for bigger wins and spending all the winnings they have got.
Rightly said but there are many gamblers who don't know how to enjoy these wins. They think that once they win they will win more and then lose their control and get greedy. Gambling doesn't always win if you become addicted to betting no matter how much money you have it will end. Once greed works it impairs your judgement leading to unexpected losses so constantly making sure you don't waste money will allow you to improve because it gives you more time to play. If you can control yourself you can bet on a variety of markets with generally favorable odds.

Our luck in one day runs out, you're lucky today not tomorrow or you're lucky today later it won't be anymore. We don't know when it will come, so there are greedy people hoping to win again after a big win. And I think these people are the ones who gamble to win.

Yes, there is nothing wrong if you bet again after you win, but you must control yourself, your winnings will not run out. Bet 10% of your winnings again if your luck wins 10% again. But if you lose, you should know when to stop, don't be greedy.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 23, 2023, 03:35:19 AM
I sometimes think that the reason why a player cannot give up games is simply laziness. He wants to get rich and do nothing, pressing a couple of buttons while looking at the monitor, although we all know the value of money and how difficult it is to get, especially not in rich countries. Before that, he will wake up well-rested because he doesn’t have to go to work. He knows that he can borrow money from friends under any pretext. Let him even tell you that mom needs money for pills because of health problems. I consider it important to never, under any pretext, lend money to such dependent people. This will allow him to quickly understand what bottom he is on. Of course, the addicted player does not even admit to himself that he is lazy.
Gamblers want fast money from gambling so that is another reason for gamblers who still frequently gamble where fast money will not come to all gamblers. But they don't want to start doing something more useful for themselves and stay at home, in their room, looking at the monitor and imagining that there is a lot of money flying around that they are ready to take. But when he returned to reality, everything was nothing and it was just his imagination and he really had to stop gambling if he wanted to change his life for the better. Yes, he could borrow money from other people under the pretext of buying medicine for his mother, and he lied to them while saying in his heart that he would return the money after he won. But the victory he wanted never came when he didn't have much money left. Family members who see someone in their family just staying in their room must take action and ask and check their condition. They won't know if the person is okay and not involved in something bad if they don't check on them.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Hirose UK on November 23, 2023, 05:33:18 AM
I sometimes think that the reason why a player cannot give up games is simply laziness. He wants to get rich and do nothing, pressing a couple of buttons while looking at the monitor, although we all know the value of money and how difficult it is to get, especially not in rich countries. Before that, he will wake up well-rested because he doesn’t have to go to work.

Sure, it'd be nice to earn bucks without breaking a sweat.  But that lazy dream ain't reality and  making bank takes hustle no matter where you live.  Even casino games take skill and effort to win big.  And for most folks gaming wont pay the bills anyway.

The idea of being rich and having a lot of money without hard work and effort is just joke that people with limited abilities want, so they choose shortcuts that are faster and are considered easier, but in fact this choice is complicated and difficult to achieve real.
For example, people who only gamble without a job or business to support financial stability and they actually use various methods in gambling to win, end up living with all the difficulties they encounter.
Everyone has their own rights and thoughts in determining their fate and developing in a business or job to be able to have decent life and have enough wealth, but when they make the wrong decisions then only trouble is always present.

Many people have suggested and said that gambling is not a place to enrich yourself or make money on large scale because gambling is full of uncertainty.
But I think most people don't care about sentences like this because of their belief in gambling and the belief that gambling can change their lives.
People with thoughts like this only need to wait for time to experience what is called destruction and regret.
When all this has been achieved, he can realize it himself and can change what he thinks is bad, such as gambling addiction and having too big hopes from gambling.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Silberman on November 23, 2023, 06:38:21 AM
Our luck in one day runs out, you're lucky today not tomorrow or you're lucky today later it won't be anymore. We don't know when it will come, so there are greedy people hoping to win again after a big win. And I think these people are the ones who gamble to win.

Yes, there is nothing wrong if you bet again after you win, but you must control yourself, your winnings will not run out. Bet 10% of your winnings again if your luck wins 10% again. But if you lose, you should know when to stop, don't be greedy.
Many gamblers have a great deal of problems stopping once they have started to get some wins, and this happens because deep down they know this may be the chance to recover the money they have lost during the last months and even make a profit if their luck does not run out, however the longer they gamble the bigger the chances a reversal will happen, and when it does they cannot accept it did, so they keep gambling hoping for their luck to comeback, and when it does not and they finally realize what happened they may find out they got no profits at all and they lost even more money despite their early success during that session.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 24, 2023, 02:17:06 AM
Rightly said but there are many gamblers who don't know how to enjoy these wins. They think that once they win they will win more and then lose their control and get greedy. Gambling doesn't always win if you become addicted to betting no matter how much money you have it will end. Once greed works it impairs your judgement leading to unexpected losses so constantly making sure you don't waste money will allow you to improve because it gives you more time to play. If you can control yourself you can bet on a variety of markets with generally favorable odds.
If gamblers think like that, they will only experience bigger losses because greed has told them to continue gambling. Playing gambling must be done with self-control so that you don't lose a lot. If he continues to gamble again later but someone finds out that he could spend a lot of money, it would be better for that person to immediately prevent him from getting deeper into gambling.

And back to the topic. His family had done the right thing and that was because they had to because they realized that the young people in their family were gambling excessively. Maybe there should be firm action like that taken by his family to prevent him from returning to gambling again. And even though the young person can go to another city just because he wants to gamble, other family members can supervise the young person so that he cannot go anywhere. This requires cooperation from all family members to ensure that the young person does not return to gambling, even in another city.
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The bad thing about people is that they play without control and see that they are betting and winning more. Sometimes it can be harmful because people can adapt to it, and the moment a bad streak starts it will be difficult to stop it because the person who won a lot You want to continue winning and you start making very big bets to recover what you have previously lost and that is the danger of this, so these are the things that must be taken into consideration in order not to do it anymore. You always have to consider that when you are in a situation and there is a Streak of good luck, one of those that is very big, it is only better to withdraw because it is the best way to act because after making many bets you can lose everything, and it is not worth it, because even more it is an effort that was made and but it is something that must be done.

We as gamblers must always do what is necessary to avoid Falling into things like this, the traps of the casinos are knowing how to sweeten the customers, their players, and this was something that can be avoided when a player is winning, among my rules , which are very few but are quite efficient, I have to first always have a balance willing to lose, after this if you lose what you are willing to lose you should not deposit more money , but assume that it was lost and yua, after this if there are agnanias you will enjoy it, but if there are very large profits , there is no need to invest, you have to withdraw that money and enjoy it , spend it , Seeing what was done is very simple, because in many Players they begin to What being greedy does is lose what they have and that is worse, because there are some who do not accept it and begin to commit more with their money and what they do is lose big, then a good and very juicy profit or they transform it into a big soo Loss for not having intelligence in the casino, and even in casinos you must play intelligently.



Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: maydna on November 24, 2023, 02:21:05 PM
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The bad thing about people is that they play without control and see that they are betting and winning more. Sometimes it can be harmful because people can adapt to it, and the moment a bad streak starts it will be difficult to stop it because the person who won a lot You want to continue winning and you start making very big bets to recover what you have previously lost and that is the danger of this, so these are the things that must be taken into consideration in order not to do it anymore. You always have to consider that when you are in a situation and there is a Streak of good luck, one of those that is very big, it is only better to withdraw because it is the best way to act because after making many bets you can lose everything, and it is not worth it, because even more it is an effort that was made and but it is something that must be done.

We as gamblers must always do what is necessary to avoid Falling into things like this, the traps of the casinos are knowing how to sweeten the customers, their players, and this was something that can be avoided when a player is winning, among my rules , which are very few but are quite efficient, I have to first always have a balance willing to lose, after this if you lose what you are willing to lose you should not deposit more money , but assume that it was lost and yua, after this if there are agnanias you will enjoy it, but if there are very large profits , there is no need to invest, you have to withdraw that money and enjoy it , spend it , Seeing what was done is very simple, because in many Players they begin to What being greedy does is lose what they have and that is worse, because there are some who do not accept it and begin to commit more with their money and what they do is lose big, then a good and very juicy profit or they transform it into a big soo Loss for not having intelligence in the casino, and even in casinos you must play intelligently.
Those who have lost a lot of money but continue gambling will only experience more and more losses, especially if they don't want to stop gambling because they still want to recover their losses. The bets they make may increase because they will definitely think about recovering their losses in one round, but the reality will not be as they think. If none of his family members know about this, he can get deeper into gambling without being able to get out. If his family finds out that he has a gambling addiction, they will probably take strict action to prohibit that person from gambling anywhere.

We as gamblers must be able to have good self-control and good responsibility so that we avoid gambling problems and will not experience any difficulties. We also won't bother our family members to supervise us when gambling, as we prefer to gamble without anyone knowing. Always having good self-control will keep us out of trouble so that our family doesn't need to take firm action against us, and we can still gamble responsibly. We have to regulate our gambling activities and not let ourselves get lost in gambling because that means we can be tempted to continue gambling, and we won't even think about resting after gambling for a while.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Webetcoins on November 24, 2023, 03:48:25 PM
I sometimes think that the reason why a player cannot give up games is simply laziness. He wants to get rich and do nothing, pressing a couple of buttons while looking at the monitor, although we all know the value of money and how difficult it is to get, especially not in rich countries. Before that, he will wake up well-rested because he doesn’t have to go to work.
Sure, it'd be nice to earn bucks without breaking a sweat.  But that lazy dream ain't reality and  making bank takes hustle no matter where you live.  Even casino games take skill and effort to win big.  And for most folks gaming wont pay the bills anyway.
Maybe a few, like Poker or Blackjack, but most of them are solely dependent on luck in order to provide wins to a gambler. So, you can't achieve skills to win big in a gambling game unless your luck shines at the time when the result is being generated. Some people think that they can use certain strategies and manage to get profit after every gambling session, but they don't realize that they can't do it because the house eventually wins no matter how much a gambler tries.

The best way is to gamble without aiming for profits or having a specific target. Even if you are looking for wins, don't chase your losses and get lost in that because when you start doing that, you won't be able to win at all and a single loss will cost you the whole bankroll, so instead, let the losses go and keep gambling normally.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: hedgeh0g on November 25, 2023, 08:54:32 PM
I sometimes think that the reason why a player cannot give up games is simply laziness. He wants to get rich and do nothing, pressing a couple of buttons while looking at the monitor, although we all know the value of money and how difficult it is to get, especially not in rich countries. Before that, he will wake up well-rested because he doesn’t have to go to work. He knows that he can borrow money from friends under any pretext. Let him even tell you that mom needs money for pills because of health problems. I consider it important to never, under any pretext, lend money to such dependent people. This will allow him to quickly understand what bottom he is on. Of course, the addicted player does not even admit to himself that he is lazy.
Gamblers want fast money from gambling so that is another reason for gamblers who still frequently gamble where fast money will not come to all gamblers. But they don't want to start doing something more useful for themselves and stay at home, in their room, looking at the monitor and imagining that there is a lot of money flying around that they are ready to take. But when he returned to reality, everything was nothing and it was just his imagination and he really had to stop gambling if he wanted to change his life for the better. Yes, he could borrow money from other people under the pretext of buying medicine for his mother, and he lied to them while saying in his heart that he would return the money after he won. But the victory he wanted never came when he didn't have much money left. Family members who see someone in their family just staying in their room must take action and ask and check their condition. They won't know if the person is okay and not involved in something bad if they don't check on them.
It’s also good when family members are interested or aware of such a person’s problems with gambling. But some wives and mothers don’t even know how dependent a person can be, his debts and other moral problems. They may not even realize that there is such a field as gambling and what is happening there due to insufficient coverage of these problems on television because there are only advertisements with possible winnings. We need to talk about this more all over the world, otherwise you can only hear it from friends or acquaintances, how in some family the son got into debt due to uncontrolled bets. Even some mothers and wives may not talk about it because they are so afraid of judgment, shame and blame that they did not follow up well enough with the losers. Only if the situation has completely gotten out of control and the debts have become critical, then only then can they tell because of complete despair.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Wakate on November 25, 2023, 09:04:21 PM
I sometimes think that the reason why a player cannot give up games is simply laziness. He wants to get rich and do nothing, pressing a couple of buttons while looking at the monitor, although we all know the value of money and how difficult it is to get, especially not in rich countries. Before that, he will wake up well-rested because he doesn’t have to go to work. He knows that he can borrow money from friends under any pretext. Let him even tell you that mom needs money for pills because of health problems. I consider it important to never, under any pretext, lend money to such dependent people. This will allow him to quickly understand what bottom he is on. Of course, the addicted player does not even admit to himself that he is lazy.
Gamblers want fast money from gambling so that is another reason for gamblers who still frequently gamble where fast money will not come to all gamblers. But they don't want to start doing something more useful for themselves and stay at home, in their room, looking at the monitor and imagining that there is a lot of money flying around that they are ready to take. But when he returned to reality, everything was nothing and it was just his imagination and he really had to stop gambling if he wanted to change his life for the better. Yes, he could borrow money from other people under the pretext of buying medicine for his mother, and he lied to them while saying in his heart that he would return the money after he won. But the victory he wanted never came when he didn't have much money left. Family members who see someone in their family just staying in their room must take action and ask and check their condition. They won't know if the person is okay and not involved in something bad if they don't check on them.
We all want to be making money from betting but most time things doesn't work in the way we plan it. For us to make profits from betting, it is good for us to make sure we play bets without been pressured through any means. For us to make profits from the market we need to be disciplined and bet responsibly or things might get worsen and we might not be making good profits from the market. Sometimes family can make us not to be making the kind profits we ought to make from betting due to some usual mistakes we must have made in the paste. Adjusting is one of the things that can make us skill through.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Marvelman on November 25, 2023, 09:40:23 PM
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Maybe a few, like Poker or Blackjack, but most of them are solely dependent on luck in order to provide wins to a gambler. So, you can't achieve skills to win big in a gambling game unless your luck shines at the time when the result is being generated. Some people think that they can use certain strategies and manage to get profit after every gambling session, but they don't realize that they can't do it because the house eventually wins no matter how much a gambler tries.

Luck definitely still plays a part in gambling, no doubt.  But having skill under your belt can assist big time in making smarter choices, grasping the game better overall, and bringing down how much you gotta depend on luck and, besides poker and blackjack,  take betting on sports for example - If you put in the effort to study up on the teams you'll be placing your bets with some more know-how behind 'em.

The best way is to gamble without aiming for profits or having a specific target. Even if you are looking for wins, don't chase your losses and get lost in that because when you start doing that, you won't be able to win at all and a single loss will cost you the whole bankroll, so instead, let the losses go and keep gambling normally.

Indeed, gambling should be viewed as a recreational activity, not a means to financial gain.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: 348Judah on November 25, 2023, 11:19:34 PM
Maybe with all these happening between a gambler and his family members, some gamblers have chosen to stay far away from them because they realized what could be in danger if they continue all together, the other aspects are the family members that tries to distance themselves from the gambler and have their own personal reasons for doing that as well, this has to be issues they would have already dragged and discussed before taking their own ground as well.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Westinhome on November 25, 2023, 11:31:43 PM
Maybe with all these happening between a gambler and his family members, some gamblers have chosen to stay far away from them because they realized what could be in danger if they continue all together, the other aspects are the family members that tries to distance themselves from the gambler and have their own personal reasons for doing that as well, this has to be issues they would have already dragged and discussed before taking their own ground as well.

If we speak about the gambler and the family member means,the gambler should ready to play the gambling without the knowledge of their family members.Do you think the family member will allow for the game play because of the gambler involvement to the gambling sites.This was the impossible one,because the gambler had their own strength and weekness in the gambling.If the family member know about the small dollars loss in the gambling sites because of the gambling,it will be your last game in the gambling sites.Because the gambler using the money for the gambling which was claimed to the money for their family member expenses and ask to quit the gambling games for the welfare of the family.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Quidat on November 25, 2023, 11:40:33 PM
Maybe with all these happening between a gambler and his family members, some gamblers have chosen to stay far away from them because they realized what could be in danger if they continue all together, the other aspects are the family members that tries to distance themselves from the gambler and have their own personal reasons for doing that as well, this has to be issues they would have already dragged and discussed before taking their own ground as well.

If we speak about the gambler and the family member means,the gambler should ready to play the gambling without the knowledge of their family members.Do you think the family member will allow for the game play because of the gambler involvement to the gambling sites.This was the impossible one,because the gambler had their own strength and weekness in the gambling.If the family member know about the small dollars loss in the gambling sites because of the gambling,it will be your last game in the gambling sites.Because the gambler using the money for the gambling which was claimed to the money for their family member expenses and ask to quit the gambling games for the welfare of the family.
Family knows best i believe even though it might really be that too tight when it comes to rules and conditions but it s really that something that we cant really be able to deny
and should really be that able to appreciate instead on making yourself that getting angry on the things that they've been doing just to save you up.
It is really that normal that they would really be helping one of their family members who are experiencing problems on which on the time that they would be needing to do
something to resolve the problem then no matter how far or extent it would be then they would definitely be doing it.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: romero121 on November 25, 2023, 11:53:54 PM
When we don't have any other choice surely we'll go to any extent to stop him gambling. Myself will do the same, and it is really painful when someone see him with care, not just because of his good character, but of his situation. What the parents and family did is really good and he should be made to realise what is wrong with gambling. Maybe if he starts to earn and spend he'll understand better. Now what he does is spend his father's money and when he doesn't have money he had begun to sell his belongings.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 26, 2023, 06:14:37 AM
It’s also good when family members are interested or aware of such a person’s problems with gambling. But some wives and mothers don’t even know how dependent a person can be, his debts and other moral problems. They may not even realize that there is such a field as gambling and what is happening there due to insufficient coverage of these problems on television because there are only advertisements with possible winnings. We need to talk about this more all over the world, otherwise you can only hear it from friends or acquaintances, how in some family the son got into debt due to uncontrolled bets. Even some mothers and wives may not talk about it because they are so afraid of judgment, shame and blame that they did not follow up well enough with the losers. Only if the situation has completely gotten out of control and the debts have become critical, then only then can they tell because of complete despair.
The problem of debt where the money is used for gambling is indeed a serious problem because by gambling using borrowed money, you might end up losing all your money. They will not be able to return the money because all the money has been lost at the gambling table so this is a serious problem because they still have to return all the money. They have to use the money they have or have to sell their goods to be able to have money so they can pay back their debts. This will add to problems in the family if other family members find out that the person has debt. His family must really take firm action against that person to be able to stop his gambling activities and not gamble again because he has caused a lot of problems for his family. As for the story above, it is very natural that his family wanted to spread his photo so that every casino in his city would not allow him to gamble in their casino because it was for his own good.

We all want to be making money from betting but most time things doesn't work in the way we plan it. For us to make profits from betting, it is good for us to make sure we play bets without been pressured through any means. For us to make profits from the market we need to be disciplined and bet responsibly or things might get worsen and we might not be making good profits from the market. Sometimes family can make us not to be making the kind profits we ought to make from betting due to some usual mistakes we must have made in the paste. Adjusting is one of the things that can make us skill through.
That is why we must prevent the thought of always trying to make money from gambling because that will always happen often and all that will happen is that we will experience more losses. If we want to gamble, we have to make sure that we use enough money and don't gamble for too long so that we can prevent more losses. Even if we lose, we will lose appropriately and even if we win, we may have the opportunity to win a lot even though we rarely get it. But that's okay, rather than experiencing more losses that we can't accept, it's better if we experience losses appropriately and can accept them. This is to prevent our family from getting other problems from what we do in gambling.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Silberman on November 26, 2023, 06:19:51 AM
When we don't have any other choice surely we'll go to any extent to stop him gambling. Myself will do the same, and it is really painful when someone see him with care, not just because of his good character, but of his situation. What the parents and family did is really good and he should be made to realise what is wrong with gambling. Maybe if he starts to earn and spend he'll understand better. Now what he does is spend his father's money and when he doesn't have money he had begun to sell his belongings.
It is never that simple, in a way what you are saying makes sense and the person mentioned on the OP should open their eyes and think about what they are doing to themselves and their family, however it is very unlikely they will take it this way and instead they will think of the actions of their family as a way to interfere with their lives and force them to do something they do not want, and this is what makes recovering from an addiction a challenge, because unless the person recognizes by themselves they have a problem then there is no way that anyone can help them.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Suzume on November 26, 2023, 09:17:44 AM
Keep you gambling habits hide from your family. In our country family don't support their children to any kinds of work. If you say to you family about your gambling then when you are in profit family will support you. But when you are in loss then you family will blame you for your losses. Don't share you gambling habits with your family it's creat problem in you life.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: sompitonov on November 26, 2023, 10:42:03 AM
What still remains unknown is the point at which a family member who is constantly losing money will hit rock bottom and finally stop. Moreover, the player himself doesn't know this, but we need to find reasons for him to minimize losses as soon as possible. If in one family depriving the player of all available money and resources will help stop the game (easy bottom), then in another family the player will stop at nothing until he sells all the things from the apartment and his children have nothing to eat. One thing I know for sure, you need to stop giving loans and call all his friends and acquaintances from the telephone list so that they never lend him money, because he will invent all sorts of fairy tales just to be loaned money. There is no need to be ashamed of this because the outcome can be very bad, I apologize for my frankness.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Blitzboy on November 26, 2023, 11:10:08 AM
It’s also good when family members are interested or aware of such a person’s problems with gambling. But some wives and mothers don’t even know how dependent a person can be, his debts and other moral problems. They may not even realize that there is such a field as gambling and what is happening there due to insufficient coverage of these problems on television because there are only advertisements with possible winnings. We need to talk about this more all over the world, otherwise you can only hear it from friends or acquaintances, how in some family the son got into debt due to uncontrolled bets. Even some mothers and wives may not talk about it because they are so afraid of judgment, shame and blame that they did not follow up well enough with the losers. Only if the situation has completely gotten out of control and the debts have become critical, then only then can they tell because of complete despair.
The problem of debt where the money is used for gambling is indeed a serious problem because by gambling using borrowed money, you might end up losing all your money. They will not be able to return the money because all the money has been lost at the gambling table so this is a serious problem because they still have to return all the money. They have to use the money they have or have to sell their goods to be able to have money so they can pay back their debts. This will add to problems in the family if other family members find out that the person has debt. His family must really take firm action against that person to be able to stop his gambling activities and not gamble again because he has caused a lot of problems for his family. As for the story above, it is very natural that his family wanted to spread his photo so that every casino in his city would not allow him to gamble in their casino because it was for his own good.
When you combine gambling with debt, it can be very dangerous, right? People get caught in a cycle of loss and panic when they believe they can get rich quickly. Getting loans to gamble? Its dangerous to do that. What will happen? Terrible. It not only puts finances at risk, but it also puts family ties under a lot of stress. Still, gamblers' minds are a mess of hope and misery, and they often dont see these risks.

Is spreading a gambler's photo to casinos the right move? I do not think so. On one hand, its an obstacle that keeps things from falling even more. On the other hand, it's an invasion of privacy and a public shame that could make the person feel even worse. A nuanced method is needed: firm action is needed, but it needs to be paired with support and understanding. Can we find that middle ground? Its hard to find the right balance between safety and respect, between control and understanding.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 27, 2023, 04:42:04 AM
When you combine gambling with debt, it can be very dangerous, right? People get caught in a cycle of loss and panic when they believe they can get rich quickly. Getting loans to gamble? Its dangerous to do that. What will happen? Terrible. It not only puts finances at risk, but it also puts family ties under a lot of stress. Still, gamblers' minds are a mess of hope and misery, and they often dont see these risks.

Is spreading a gambler's photo to casinos the right move? I do not think so. On one hand, its an obstacle that keeps things from falling even more. On the other hand, it's an invasion of privacy and a public shame that could make the person feel even worse. A nuanced method is needed: firm action is needed, but it needs to be paired with support and understanding. Can we find that middle ground? Its hard to find the right balance between safety and respect, between control and understanding.
Playing gambling using money from debt is not recommended because we don't know when we can win and get money. There is only the possibility of losing so if we lose, the possibility of losing will use up all the money we have and if it is borrowed money, how will we pay the debt? People get caught up in thinking they can get rich quickly from gambling but they don't think that many people have lost a lot of money by gambling. And this will clearly cause problems for the family, especially if we develop a gambling addiction.

It may not be the right step, but according to his family, it can prevent him from being able to enter the casino because the casino will prohibit him from entering the place. He would probably be embarrassed to have his picture plastered in every casino and forbid him from gambling at all the casinos in his city. And everyone in his town will know that he is a gambler and that will make him frustrated and depressed. We also don't know the real situation and conditions experienced by his family, so we say that. But there is some truth in what you say about taking a different approach to providing support and understanding to him so that he can realize that he has made a mistake.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Ever-young on November 27, 2023, 05:17:44 AM
Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

To answer the first question, I don't think there's any length that'd be considered extreme to help someone struggling with gambling addiction, I believe that before they swung into action and took precautional measures to make sure they try to stop him, I believe they must have tried every other means, including engaging into one on one conversations, criticism and others and that his addiction was already very visible to them and they needed to take actions quickly before it completely ruins him.

And to answer the second question, if I eventually start going out of the environment just to gamble and I hit a very significant win, yes I'd share my blessings with my family, because they're the only ones who truly deserve to enjoy the wealth with me because they're the only ones that truly cared about me, saw that my addiction wasould ruin me if not stopped and decided to take the actions deemed essential and necessary just to make me stop, which was for my own good. I'd understand that their action was backed up by their love for me and my safety and not from a negative point of view. So yes I'll share my fortune with them


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: noormcs5 on November 27, 2023, 05:42:20 AM

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

I think that both questions contradict each other. First, the family of that person did not want him to gamble and they tried to stop him from gambling in every way possible. The person has to go to another town in order to fulfil his desire for gambling. The family shows extreme behaviour to him but they should not expect him to help the family if he wins something considerable.

Why would he be willing to help the family, when the family was acting like a complete enemy to him. They did not not co-operate with him in times when he needed some support from him. Now that he has gone rich with gambling, it will shame if the same family comes to him and ask for his financial help.

I do not know if the relationship between the young man and the family is so strong that he forgets all the past behavior and comes back to the family and helps them.

What if he started to lose in gambling, will the family still support him::)


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on November 27, 2023, 05:50:38 AM
To answer the first question, I don't think there's any length that'd be considered extreme to help someone struggling with gambling addiction, I believe that before they swung into action and took precautional measures to make sure they try to stop him, I believe they must have tried every other means, including engaging into one on one conversations, criticism and others and that his addiction was already very visible to them and they needed to take actions quickly before it completely ruins him.
Exactly, the family members might have discussed within themselves the possible actions they can take to at least minimize the gambling activities of one of their family members who is addicted to gambling. They might have taken action before, however, there is nothing to stop the addicted gambler that's why they come to the level of taking action to request him to be banned from any gambling house within the area.

And to answer the second question, if I eventually start going out of the environment just to gamble and I hit a very significant win, yes I'd share my blessings with my family, because they're the only ones who truly deserve to enjoy the wealth with me because they're the only ones that truly cared about me, saw that my addiction wasould ruin me if not stopped and decided to take the actions deemed essential and necessary just to make me stop, which was for my own good. I'd understand that their action was backed up by their love for me and my safety and not from a negative point of view. So yes I'll share my fortune with them
Let's be real in here. If this scenario really happened to you, I guess you would do exactly the opposite of what you said. I mean, every addicted gambler will. Right? An addicted gambler is willing to do anything just to provide their own money for gambling activities including selling his own properties. And achieving to win a huge sum of money, I don't think he will have time to think about his family who have tried to stop him from his gambling activities.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: hedgeh0g on November 27, 2023, 04:00:38 PM

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

I think that both questions contradict each other. First, the family of that person did not want him to gamble and they tried to stop him from gambling in every way possible. The person has to go to another town in order to fulfil his desire for gambling. The family shows extreme behaviour to him but they should not expect him to help the family if he wins something considerable.

Why would he be willing to help the family, when the family was acting like a complete enemy to him. They did not not co-operate with him in times when he needed some support from him. Now that he has gone rich with gambling, it will shame if the same family comes to him and ask for his financial help.

I do not know if the relationship between the young man and the family is so strong that he forgets all the past behavior and comes back to the family and helps them.

What if he started to lose in gambling, will the family still support him::)
Therefore, if he wins a lot of money, it doesn’t even matter how much, he will take it back to where he won. He will think that he knows better how to dispose of them. Gambling is also a profitable business because few people take money from there and never return (almost no one). Usually in a day or two he will return there again to leave them there, if not immediately. He doesn’t even know why he needs so much money, he’ll just return there again to experience those unforgettable emotions in pursuit of the jackpot. As a result, his family will never see money from him. Everything could end better, but this happens very rarely and I don’t believe in such an outcome.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Westinhome on November 27, 2023, 05:58:42 PM

I think that both questions contradict each other. First, the family of that person did not want him to gamble and they tried to stop him from gambling in every way possible. The person has to go to another town in order to fulfil his desire for gambling. The family shows extreme behaviour to him but they should not expect him to help the family if he wins something considerable.

Why would he be willing to help the family, when the family was acting like a complete enemy to him. They did not not co-operate with him in times when he needed some support from him. Now that he has gone rich with gambling, it will shame if the same family comes to him and ask for his financial help.

I do not know if the relationship between the young man and the family is so strong that he forgets all the past behavior and comes back to the family and helps them.

What if he started to lose in gambling, will the family still support him::)

The gambler will not like to make the funds on the taxation after the good win,because the gambler had win the game by their hard work.The tactics was the key to win the money from the gambling site,if they pay some taxes to the government.It may be find by their family member and it may cause some problem to the gambler involvement to the gambling.The family from the gambling background will help the gambler by supporting at the needed time.If the gambler had made the big win once from the gambling site and same was know by their family members.In this case the family member can help you at the hard times or else it was hard for the gambler to start the gambling after some couple of loss from the gambling sites.The experienced gambler will share everything to his wife for their long term gambling with the knowledge of their wife was essential one.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Lida93 on November 27, 2023, 07:01:38 PM

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

I think that both questions contradict each other. First, the family of that person did not want him to gamble and they tried to stop him from gambling in every way possible. The person has to go to another town in order to fulfil his desire for gambling. The family shows extreme behaviour to him but they should not expect him to help the family if he wins something considerable.
Mate you think wrong there is nothing contradictory about the two questions. For a compulsive gambler the action was necessary though it appears to be extreme if he was gambling responsibly the family wouldn't have had issues with his gambling life.

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Why would he be willing to help the family, when the family was acting like a complete enemy to him. They did not not co-operate with him in times when he needed some support from him. Now that he has gone rich with gambling, it will shame if the same family comes to him and ask for his financial help.
How do you cooperate with a compulsive gambler? Who in an addictive situation should be expected to be cooperative; is it the addict or those giving the help?

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I do not know if the relationship between the young man and the family is so strong that he forgets all the past behavior and comes back to the family and helps them.
I always say that family is everything you don't have to hold grudges towards family for long, in this case all that was done was intended to salvage him from falling off and if eventually he got lucky under his addiction to win a big sum of money, incorporating his family in that money is somehow a benefit to him as the family will guide him on how make good use of the money not to squander it all on gambling in the believe of winning more.

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What if he started to lose in gambling, will the family still support him::)
Support was what the family from the onset were giving before he won the money, so there won't have been a difference he won or lose.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Unbunplease on November 27, 2023, 07:52:40 PM
The player's family should not forbid him to gamble, otherwise he will do it secretly - and the consequences will be unpredictable. It is worth giving him a certain amount of money, which he is entitled to lose, although there is always a chance that he will win. a person should have an outlet.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: madnessteat on November 27, 2023, 07:57:54 PM
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I believe that gambling is entertainment for someone who is already making money on his own. In my opinion, gambling for family money is not quite right. Although I also once used money from the family budget, but now I think that for me personally it is unacceptable. There are many legal ways to earn money even for minors, so making money is not a problem now.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Orpichukwu on November 27, 2023, 08:21:43 PM
Luck definitely still plays a part in gambling, no doubt.  But having skill under your belt can assist big time in making smarter choices, grasping the game better overall, and bringing down how much you gotta depend on luck and, besides poker and blackjack,  take betting on sports for example - If you put in the effort to study up on the teams you'll be placing your bets with some more know-how behind 'em.
Skill to many is just jara for gambling. Some people don't take skills very serious in gambling, as they think it's not relevant for them, but they rely on luck for their winning.
 
If we depend on luck alone for gambling, it will only end us where our own winning can't be predicted. Of course we can't be too sure of what's going to be the result of the game, but still skill makes it a bit easier for us to select a better option that will make us win our game.

That's why it has also been proven that most people with mathematical knowledge winning gambling the most more than other gamblers, and this is not luck, but skill.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: erep on November 27, 2023, 08:54:25 PM
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I believe that gambling is entertainment for someone who is already making money on his own. In my opinion, gambling for family money is not quite right. Although I also once used money from the family budget, but now I think that for me personally it is unacceptable. There are many legal ways to earn money even for minors, so making money is not a problem now.
If we determine that gambling is only for entertainment then never target getting additional income from gambling, because many gamblers experience losses because they focus on achieving daily profits, we must determine user limits on gambling funds and never involve the family budget in gambling, I think never force to gamble when you don't have special funds for gambling, because gambling is not something that has to be done in every daily activity and I only gamble when I'm bored and just to calm my mind.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: DubemIfedigbo001 on November 27, 2023, 09:36:20 PM
This guy in question isn't gambling with clear eyes, I mean his habit might be as a result of peer influence or false hope he either feeds himself, or his fellow gamblers feeds him to enable them always purchase his items at a cheaper rate and enrich themselves at his expense. He's in a situation that he can't help himself and he needs all the love and acceptance he can get. At this stage, there's no difference between him and a mad man. At this point, there are two ways to stop his habit:
The hard way & the soft way
The hard way is the way the family in question took, but they got the configuration wrong. The guy in question should be arrested by relevant authorities and detained until he signs an undertaking that he will never sell any of his property again nor be seen in any gambling shop. upon release he shouldn't return to that same environment that affected him negatively. He should be relocated to a new environment to start a new life.
Secondly he should be made to understand that seeing him around any gambling office will lead to a re-arrest with stricter punishment and harsher condition. however, he should be allowed to gamble  at intervals, to keep him sane.
Thirdly, he would be going to the police station daily to sign until the family is sure he's repented of his stupid lifestyle.
Finally, a legitimate business or trade should be opened for him, or he should go learn a skill to keep his mind occupied as an idle mind is the devil's workshop.
The second way is therapy, continuous therapy and convincing advise that will help him reshape his mind and focus on being better and more useful with his life. I still suggest he move out of his present environment to help him not mingle with the familiar persons that had poisoned his mind to becoming useless. The rewarding pattern can be initiated too, whereby he gets an incentive periodically for being of good behavior and after some time, he'll get used to being of good behavior and the case is solved. He should be engaged during this healing period to help reshape his mind positively. This second process is slower and needs much patience and with someone who's case its not yet as extreme as the one mentioned by OP.

in the case being treated above, I suggest the first and harder way, the guy is too stubborn and needs a very much stronger force to bend him and the authorities can do a good job there. In my country, it'll cos some considerable cash to get authorities to comply, but its worth the investment.

To reply your second question, this guy needs to stop that habit first cos even if he wins a lot of money today, it wouldn't last cos he's not in control of himself, he'll waste the money and not bring it home if he's still the wayward guy, but If he has some senses after being controlled, he'll surely remember his family members knowing fully well, everything done was in his own basic interest...


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: bettercrypto on November 27, 2023, 11:52:30 PM
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I believe that gambling is entertainment for someone who is already making money on his own. In my opinion, gambling for family money is not quite right. Although I also once used money from the family budget, but now I think that for me personally it is unacceptable. There are many legal ways to earn money even for minors, so making money is not a problem now.
If we determine that gambling is only for entertainment then never target getting additional income from gambling, because many gamblers experience losses because they focus on achieving daily profits, we must determine user limits on gambling funds and never involve the family budget in gambling, I think never force to gamble when you don't have special funds for gambling, because gambling is not something that has to be done in every daily activity and I only gamble when I'm bored and just to calm my mind.

I agree with what you said. There is truth in what you mentioned. Let's just consider gambling as entertainment; it should not be considered a fixed income, because if we happen to think of it as a source of income, we will be misled by false beliefs. Because let's just remember that gambling and having a fixed income are just being an employee or having your own business.

So, gambling is very far from the self-employed or employee; this is where a gambler knows it should be, so if there is a gambler who thinks gambling is a source of income, it is obvious that he is immediately lost in his belief. It's just a bonus because of the winnings we get here.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Suzume on November 28, 2023, 08:45:19 AM
Keep private your gambling habits from your family. In our country family don't support at all after saying that I earn the tought I earn a lot but don't give them money and don't help them by given money. That's creat family problem and family pressure and something they force you to give money that make you depressed. That's the problem of asian parents such as Bangladesh, India country. If you are a gambler and you are student like me don't sheare your achievement with your family because the small achievement happyness  creat big depression in your life.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: madnessteat on November 28, 2023, 12:01:11 PM
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Keeping a secret from your family that you like to gamble is not a good idea, because the only ones who can help you in case you develop a gambling addiction are your family members. If you are worried about the mental health of your relatives, then don't get involved with high-stakes activities at all. A sudden revelation of the bitter truth can be a huge blow to the psyche of your parents, especially if they are already elderly.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: masulum on November 28, 2023, 12:35:28 PM
Support was what the family from the onset were giving before he won the money, so there won't have been a difference he won or lose.
I don't think all families have that mindset. When someone hits the jackpot, let's say $10K, he gives $3K, to his family, the rest he uses for his own needs and gambling again. After winning, the gambler never wins again, even if he wins, he cannot cover his previous losses. At that time, maybe it wasn't moral support that was given, it could have been that his family blamed him for not stopping playing after that big win and lose all of his money. Of course it's good to get good advice, but family sometimes becomes our enemy when our finances get worse.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: goldkingcoiner on November 28, 2023, 01:14:18 PM
During the weekend I was listening to an evening programme from one our the local radio stations they were discussing about gambling, the effects and how to manage it if you might be struggling with  addiction. And they had listeners calling in to share personal experiences or of a loved one that gambles and amidst many callers there was this very caller story that caught my interest and curiosity.

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible  questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

1. Maybe many people here will disagree with me but I think that the family in the story is a very caring family that is trying its best to help out a loved one. This is very beautiful because the alternative would be the family not caring or only doing the bare minimum to help him fight his addiction. But having said that, the family does not know how to treat gambling addiction. They aren't therapists. I doubt what they did will have had any kind of impact on treating his addiction. Worst case, they just make things worse with their actions.

So yes, it was a bit extreme.

2. I would not share my money with anyone without good reason. Being family is not a reason to give away your money.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on November 28, 2023, 01:32:52 PM
Support was what the family from the onset were giving before he won the money, so there won't have been a difference he won or lose.
I don't think all families have that mindset. When someone hits the jackpot, let's say $10K, he gives $3K, to his family, the rest he uses for his own needs and gambling again. After winning, the gambler never wins again, even if he wins, he cannot cover his previous losses. At that time, maybe it wasn't moral support that was given, it could have been that his family blamed him for not stopping playing after that big win and lose all of his money. Of course it's good to get good advice, but family sometimes becomes our enemy when our finances get worse.
Well, family will hardly become our enemy in hard times, though some families may not have the financial means to support their own to rise again after a fall, but trust that they will always give good advice on what to do and what not to do.

It is we most times who turn against our family because we feel they want to control us, we ourselves choose to either make our family our enemy or  not, not the other way round.

Someone who won a jackpot is supposed to be sensible enough to invest the better part of the money in business or good assets that will ensure that the gambler never experiences financial hardship anymore, even if he spent a little amount left with him or her after investing to gamble, and lost it all, he or she will not regret so much as he or she will have that investment to fall back on.

This are the kind of advice good family will give their own, but most times, some of us are so stubborn and will never listen, we eventually family start pleasuring us to ensure we do not make such mistake as gambling away all that we have won, we turn our back on them and tag them our enemy, this ought not to be so bud.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: carlfebz2 on November 28, 2023, 01:37:24 PM
Support was what the family from the onset were giving before he won the money, so there won't have been a difference he won or lose.
I don't think all families have that mindset. When someone hits the jackpot, let's say $10K, he gives $3K, to his family, the rest he uses for his own needs and gambling again. After winning, the gambler never wins again, even if he wins, he cannot cover his previous losses. At that time, maybe it wasn't moral support that was given, it could have been that his family blamed him for not stopping playing after that big win and lose all of his money. Of course it's good to get good advice, but family sometimes becomes our enemy when our finances get worse.
Well, family will hardly become our enemy in hard times, though some families may not have the financial means to support their own to rise again after a fall, but trust that they will always give good advice on what to do and what not to do.

It is we most times who turn against our family because we feel they want to control us, we ourselves choose to either make our family our enemy or  not, not the other way round.

Someone who won a jackpot is supposed to be sensible enough to invest the better part of the money in business or good assets that will ensure that the gambler never experiences financial hardship anymore, even if he spent a little amount left with him or her after investing to gamble, and lost it all, he or she will not regret so much as he or she will have that investment to fall back on.

This are the kind of advice good family will give their own, but most times, some of us are so stubborn and will never listen, we eventually family start pleasuring us to ensure we do not make such mistake as gambling away all that we have won, we turn our back on them and tag them our enemy, this ought not to be so bud.
Enemy on your eyes but actually they are the ones who could be able to help us, they wont really be doing something like this if it werent for you in the first place. They dont really just like on seeing you like that
this is why they would be making actions for the solution of the current problem that you are taking. It might be looking that too much but your own family could really do all sorts of extents of action
just for the sake of own goodness. There are really just that people who cant really be able to appreciate on what their family or other people been doing on the time that they are on hardship.

You might really be that get irritated on just because they are blocking your happiness specially with gambling but actually they are really doing this for the good.
They dont mind if the action the had made is really that something too much or you hadnt been able to expect as long it would be able to save you up
then this what they would gonna do and this is something that you should appreciate on the love and care that they are showing.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on November 28, 2023, 02:22:22 PM
Support was what the family from the onset were giving before he won the money, so there won't have been a difference he won or lose.
I don't think all families have that mindset. When someone hits the jackpot, let's say $10K, he gives $3K, to his family, the rest he uses for his own needs and gambling again. After winning, the gambler never wins again, even if he wins, he cannot cover his previous losses. At that time, maybe it wasn't moral support that was given, it could have been that his family blamed him for not stopping playing after that big win and lose all of his money. Of course it's good to get good advice, but family sometimes becomes our enemy when our finances get worse.
Well, family will hardly become our enemy in hard times, though some families may not have the financial means to support their own to rise again after a fall, but trust that they will always give good advice on what to do and what not to do.

It is we most times who turn against our family because we feel they want to control us, we ourselves choose to either make our family our enemy or  not, not the other way round.

Someone who won a jackpot is supposed to be sensible enough to invest the better part of the money in business or good assets that will ensure that the gambler never experiences financial hardship anymore, even if he spent a little amount left with him or her after investing to gamble, and lost it all, he or she will not regret so much as he or she will have that investment to fall back on.

This are the kind of advice good family will give their own, but most times, some of us are so stubborn and will never listen, we eventually family start pleasuring us to ensure we do not make such mistake as gambling away all that we have won, we turn our back on them and tag them our enemy, this ought not to be so bud.
Enemy on your eyes but actually they are the ones who could be able to help us, they wont really be doing something like this if it werent for you in the first place. They dont really just like on seeing you like that
this is why they would be making actions for the solution of the current problem that you are taking. It might be looking that too much but your own family could really do all sorts of extents of action
just for the sake of own goodness. There are really just that people who cant really be able to appreciate on what their family or other people been doing on the time that they are on hardship.

You might really be that get irritated on just because they are blocking your happiness specially with gambling but actually they are really doing this for the good.
They dont mind if the action the had made is really that something too much or you hadnt been able to expect as long it would be able to save you up
then this what they would gonna do and this is something that you should appreciate on the love and care that they are showing.
Exactly the point, some times, some people's eyes get blinded in order for them not to see what help is being rendered to them by their family, they are quick to tag their family the problem in their life, meanwhile, family is only trying to help the person become a better version of who they currently are.

Over here in my area, a family was all over their one of their sons who made money, and started living a very flamboyant and useless life, he bought cars even when there was no need for it, he was told to invest In business, or atleast, buy a land and build his own house, he told the family he would, but never did, when the pleasure from the family become heightened, he ran away from home to God knows where.

Long story short, about 3 to 4 years later, he came back left with nothing, he has squandered every single penny, and the same family he saw as an enemy because they were telling him to invest, was the same family he ran back to when he had nothing left, and all his friends had left him.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Miles2006 on November 28, 2023, 03:29:12 PM
We all know the extend a gamble addict can go just to satisfy the urge to bet, the man in question is an adult that can take good care of himself, families vary and everyone comes from a different family. We cannot start blaming the family for their action, most family are very caring and what they did was Just to express their love and care for him.

If a grown up adult can go to that extend to sell his property to bet then I think the person needs help, if the family allows him to continue like that it's likely he will not have any valuable property in his life, secondly he will never get married cause no woman wants to be with someone who always sell his valuable property to bet, we hear stories like this almost everyday the addiction of gambling can destroy a marriage.

In my point of view the family did the right thing, even if he doesn't want to share his money with his family there's nothing bad, I believe the family has been surviving so his money will not change the fact.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: maydna on November 28, 2023, 05:37:07 PM
We all know the extend a gamble addict can go just to satisfy the urge to bet, the man in question is an adult that can take good care of himself, families vary and everyone comes from a different family. We cannot start blaming the family for their action, most family are very caring and what they did was Just to express their love and care for him.

If a grown up adult can go to that extend to sell his property to bet then I think the person needs help, if the family allows him to continue like that it's likely he will not have any valuable property in his life, secondly he will never get married cause no woman wants to be with someone who always sell his valuable property to bet, we hear stories like this almost everyday the addiction of gambling can destroy a marriage.

In my point of view the family did the right thing, even if he doesn't want to share his money with his family there's nothing bad, I believe the family has been surviving so his money will not change the fact.
Yes, we don't know how the family is doing until they take such decisive action. The man may have gone too far in gambling, so his family felt the need to threaten the man so that he would not gamble anymore or even gamble in other cities. The man should be aware that his family really cares about him and does not want him to experience a more serious gambling addiction that makes it difficult to cure.

His family just wants him to reduce his gambling activities and stop them because they care about him and don't want to lose him. But if the firm actions of his family still can't bring the young man to his senses, he has really gambled excessively. He must be immediately taken to an expert so that he can be treated immediately before it's too late.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Marykeller on November 28, 2023, 06:16:34 PM
Inasmuch I don't support someone being addicted to gambling but the family of the young man made a wrong unconstitutional move to stop a grown-up being from gambling. There is no place it's done, to deny someone who's above 18 years old to gamble.

The family of the young man threatening gambling shops because of their brother shows that they don't know what the law says about denying someone his fundamental human rights as a human being who is over 18 years old.

If the young man takes his family to court because of that, his family would pay a huge sum of money for damages. But the young man won't report the matter to court because of the African mentality he will have of not taking his family to count for trying to deny him, his fundamental human right to do whatever he likes with his life and money.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 29, 2023, 05:50:28 AM
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The bad thing about people is that they play without control and see that they are betting and winning more. Sometimes it can be harmful because people can adapt to it, and the moment a bad streak starts it will be difficult to stop it because the person who won a lot You want to continue winning and you start making very big bets to recover what you have previously lost and that is the danger of this, so these are the things that must be taken into consideration in order not to do it anymore. You always have to consider that when you are in a situation and there is a Streak of good luck, one of those that is very big, it is only better to withdraw because it is the best way to act because after making many bets you can lose everything, and it is not worth it, because even more it is an effort that was made and but it is something that must be done.

We as gamblers must always do what is necessary to avoid Falling into things like this, the traps of the casinos are knowing how to sweeten the customers, their players, and this was something that can be avoided when a player is winning, among my rules , which are very few but are quite efficient, I have to first always have a balance willing to lose, after this if you lose what you are willing to lose you should not deposit more money , but assume that it was lost and yua, after this if there are agnanias you will enjoy it, but if there are very large profits , there is no need to invest, you have to withdraw that money and enjoy it , spend it , Seeing what was done is very simple, because in many Players they begin to What being greedy does is lose what they have and that is worse, because there are some who do not accept it and begin to commit more with their money and what they do is lose big, then a good and very juicy profit or they transform it into a big soo Loss for not having intelligence in the casino, and even in casinos you must play intelligently.
Those who have lost a lot of money but continue gambling will only experience more and more losses, especially if they don't want to stop gambling because they still want to recover their losses. The bets they make may increase because they will definitely think about recovering their losses in one round, but the reality will not be as they think. If none of his family members know about this, he can get deeper into gambling without being able to get out. If his family finds out that he has a gambling addiction, they will probably take strict action to prohibit that person from gambling anywhere.

We as gamblers must be able to have good self-control and good responsibility so that we avoid gambling problems and will not experience any difficulties. We also won't bother our family members to supervise us when gambling, as we prefer to gamble without anyone knowing. Always having good self-control will keep us out of trouble so that our family doesn't need to take firm action against us, and we can still gamble responsibly. We have to regulate our gambling activities and not let ourselves get lost in gambling because that means we can be tempted to continue gambling, and we won't even think about resting after gambling for a while.
This is something that we as a players must face things, Things can get out of control, I think that sometimes when he sets in a casino to establish our way of jguar a perosn who is in addition it is obvious that he lins at the Request of his Own family and it is something that Cannot be Denied, we are a person that we can Generate things , but it is always good Based on this , any Code can be established to avoid this type of Behavior and not Compromise things , in this Order of ideas nsotros we can do many things to Avoid putting our family in trouble , I do not know if some person wants and peuda contral Their things to their Families, are in them to do it, now, things when they try to do something right , we must avoid we are Wrong.

A person who does things like these , who is someone who has problmas and who reaches the family , because he has to have a problem of Addiction and that is Something that is very Difficult to be able to remove it, it is nominally needed the support of all the people Possible , friends , family , all, in part a person  that is like this even is his responsibility many mistakes , but it is important to be amended, personally I will always be a person who when I see that some need a Special help to hollow it out of a ´problema, because with all the taste, we all should be like that, if I had Much money, I would not hesitate to help with a treatamient with a psychologist, or something, but to vces if there are no Words, they hear and help a lot , at least to lift the Spirits.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: moneystery on November 29, 2023, 06:07:35 AM

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?


of course i will stay away from my family who didn't like my gambling behavior from the start. why should i stay around them and share the rewards from my gambling winnings, i bet that they would not accept my gift because they already hate my behavior. it's better for me to go away and start my own life.

maybe it sounds like i'm so greedy that i left my own family and enjoyed my own life with these rewards, but it's no use being with people who don't accept you for who you are. it's true that my behavior was quite annoying to them, but when i won millions of dollars they should have realized that i could also not accept them the way they did.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: maydna on November 29, 2023, 05:33:37 PM
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This is something that we as a players must face things, Things can get out of control, I think that sometimes when he sets in a casino to establish our way of jguar a perosn who is in addition it is obvious that he lins at the Request of his Own family and it is something that Cannot be Denied, we are a person that we can Generate things , but it is always good Based on this , any Code can be established to avoid this type of Behavior and not Compromise things , in this Order of ideas nsotros we can do many things to Avoid putting our family in trouble , I do not know if some person wants and peuda contral Their things to their Families, are in them to do it, now, things when they try to do something right , we must avoid we are Wrong.

A person who does things like these , who is someone who has problmas and who reaches the family , because he has to have a problem of Addiction and that is Something that is very Difficult to be able to remove it, it is nominally needed the support of all the people Possible , friends , family , all, in part a person  that is like this even is his responsibility many mistakes , but it is important to be amended, personally I will always be a person who when I see that some need a Special help to hollow it out of a ´problema, because with all the taste, we all should be like that, if I had Much money, I would not hesitate to help with a treatamient with a psychologist, or something, but to vces if there are no Words, they hear and help a lot , at least to lift the Spirits.
Families that look after each other will always provide what their family members need. They will not abandon family members who are experiencing problems and will help them to solve these problems. Maybe this seems firm or harsh, but maybe that's what the person needs to be able to control himself by not gambling and can even reduce or eliminate his gambling activities. And maybe for us, the method used by this family is too extreme, so we can say a lot about the method they use. But we also have to know what really happened so that we can understand why other family members made the decisions they did.

It may be difficult to cure him, especially if he has a serious gambling addiction. But with the help of his family, who is willing to accompany him to heal himself, he can definitely encourage him to continue doing what he has to do. Someone who is addicted to gambling may feel alone and have no one to accompany him, so if his family can accept the reality and are willing to help him, he can rise to overcome his gambling addiction. He will not want to give up before he succeeds in curing his gambling addiction. He really needs help from many people, especially his main family, so he can feel that they, his family members, still need his presence. This will be a strong encouragement for him to be able to undergo his healing session. This can also help him avoid gambling and never gamble again.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: lixer on November 29, 2023, 05:54:41 PM
The player's family should not forbid him to gamble, otherwise he will do it secretly - and the consequences will be unpredictable. It is worth giving him a certain amount of money, which he is entitled to lose, although there is always a chance that he will win. a person should have an outlet.
The family cares about him which is why they are forbidding him because they can see he is getting out of hand and if he continues going on this path, he will ruin his life and the family can't let that happen because they love him, obviously. Do you think that if you are doing something that will ruin your whole life and your future, your family will stay totally out of it? That's not how things work in most families because blood relations tend to care for each other in such times.

Besides, the family didn't stop them from gambling until the time when they saw that it was becoming excessive and we all know where excessive gambling leads one to. If someone in my family is going on the wrong path, it's my responsibility to try and stop them before it's too late and there is no way to get out of it anymore.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: rachael9385 on November 29, 2023, 06:15:13 PM

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?


of course i will stay away from my family who didn't like my gambling behavior from the start. why should i stay around them and share the rewards from my gambling winnings, i bet that they would not accept my gift because they already hate my behavior. it's better for me to go away and start my own life.

maybe it sounds like i'm so greedy that i left my own family and enjoyed my own life with these rewards, but it's no use being with people who don't accept you for who you are. it's true that my behavior was quite annoying to them, but when i won millions of dollars they should have realized that i could also not accept them the way they did.
There is no need to stay away from your family or friends that agree to your gambling behavior, I no that everyone have their life's to live but there is one thing for sure, that no one will keep quiet when they see someone either their friends or enemy go astray and they keep mouths short.
You someone likes you he or she will not allow something bad to happen to you. However, both me even if I see anyone that's close to me becoming a gamble addict, I will try my best to advise the person but if the person refused then I will definitely stop because that's he's life and lastly, I will not collet any money from the addicted gambler because if I do, that means I am also supporting him or her.


Title: Re: A gambler's family action.
Post by: Silberman on November 30, 2023, 04:00:28 AM
The family cares about him which is why they are forbidding him because they can see he is getting out of hand and if he continues going on this path, he will ruin his life and the family can't let that happen because they love him, obviously. Do you think that if you are doing something that will ruin your whole life and your future, your family will stay totally out of it? That's not how things work in most families because blood relations tend to care for each other in such times.

Besides, the family didn't stop them from gambling until the time when they saw that it was becoming excessive and we all know where excessive gambling leads one to. If someone in my family is going on the wrong path, it's my responsibility to try and stop them before it's too late and there is no way to get out of it anymore.
However just as things are not going to go according to what the gambler wishes, the same is true about the actions of his family, to begin with the family has no legal recourse against the casinos they threatened to sue, and since their family member is unable to recognize he is addicted to gambling, even if they have the very best intentions at heart, their attempts to help them will fail, because unless he admits he has a problem then he will never think about what he is doing as something wrong.