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Title: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: alani123 on February 10, 2024, 11:34:51 PM
So I heard a story of some acquaintances that in their friend group, some person really got addicted recently.
At first it was just fun and game, they would sit together and play some slots together in a big screen with some 10€ or so for as much as this would last them with small stake spins. And this is something they would do on big occasions. Only when together as a group and only for big days like birthday parties etc.

But the thing is, unbeknownst to them, one person in their friend group was really compulsive. So in the course of a few months, he became really addicted. He would spend much of his own money from his salary on slots and sports betting, eventually losing most of it regularly every month. Then on nearly every get together he would ask his friends to chip in so they can play slots this time in his account. Every time asking for more significant amounts too.

This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.

Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: komisariatku on February 10, 2024, 11:48:29 PM
I'm pretty sure that 1 in 10 people will become a gambling addict once they try it. At first it was all just for fun, but after playing many times without realizing it we have spent a lot of money and we think about increasing the bet and of course this will result in more of our money being spent on gambling.

Maybe for now this person has no influence on his friends but I am sure that sooner or later he will start borrowing money to gamble, over time he will borrow more and it is very likely that their friendship will be damaged because of it. It's best if someone tells him to stop and if it's difficult consider taking him to professional help before it's too late

It seems like his friends don't need to stop if they still have control over their gambling, what needs to be treated is the friend who is already addicted.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: yahoo62278 on February 10, 2024, 11:49:31 PM
So I heard a story of some acquaintances that in their friend group, some person really got addicted recently.
At first it was just fun and game, they would sit together and play some slots together in a big screen with some 10€ or so for as much as this would last them with small stake spins. And this is something they would do on big occasions. Only when together as a group and only for big days like birthday parties etc.

But the thing is, unbeknownst to them, one person in their friend group was really compulsive. So in the course of a few months, he became really addicted. He would spend much of his own money from his salary on slots and sports betting, eventually losing most of it regularly every month. Then on nearly every get together he would ask his friends to chip in so they can play slots this time in his account. Every time asking for more significant amounts too.

This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.

Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.
Why wouldn't you just choose a Night to play and not take the friend? Why would a person need to quit 100%?

No clue if I would or wouldn't but if it's an activity I enjoy and I'm good at, I would try to plan around the friend.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: o48o on February 11, 2024, 12:09:14 AM
So I heard a story of some acquaintances that in their friend group, some person really got addicted recently.
At first it was just fun and game, they would sit together and play some slots together in a big screen with some 10€ or so for as much as this would last them with small stake spins. And this is something they would do on big occasions. Only when together as a group and only for big days like birthday parties etc.

But the thing is, unbeknownst to them, one person in their friend group was really compulsive. So in the course of a few months, he became really addicted. He would spend much of his own money from his salary on slots and sports betting, eventually losing most of it regularly every month. Then on nearly every get together he would ask his friends to chip in so they can play slots this time in his account. Every time asking for more significant amounts too.

This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.

Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.
For support, sure, i wouldn't drag them to casinos or play in front of them, i wouldn't quit, because me playing is not the issue. And if they didn't know, how it would hurt them? Even though i can't imagine any of my friends wanting that even if they wanted to quit. They don't think their friends are dropping their lives for them as they don't see themselves as main characters of the world, that somehow others are owing everything. If my friend wanted that, i would seriously support them in any way possible, but i would seriously ponder what kind of friends they were, if they thought they would be so entitled that they can ask that.

Because it's not like drinking, as we don't only see in casinos, or gambling related events, nor we talk much about gambling. It's very easy for me to do other stuff with them, like go to swimming, shopping, walking and talking and even composing music and visioning new projects. I wouldn't hang out with friends who have only gambling in their life, as that would probably make my addiction worse as well. I gamble mostly privately, and sometimes play poker in the group, but that's it.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Wexnident on February 11, 2024, 12:56:18 AM
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I wouldn't quit. I mean yea, we're friends, but at the same time, we're our own beings. I'd support the hell out of him to make him stop his compulsive gambling but anything that would prove detrimental to what I want, in this case, my gambling, would be outside of that. In the first place, it's kind of bold of us to assume that our stopping would make him stop.

Someone compulsively gambling will always be one regardless of their surroundings. Much better to fix it at that point since prevention was impossible anyway since we ourselves introduced it to him and avoiding it would just be, well avoiding the problem and not really fix anything.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: ralle14 on February 11, 2024, 01:28:00 AM
My approach would be similar to what yahoo suggested it shouldn't be that hard to make time for your friend and another time for gambling. Even if most of his friends would quit for good, there's no telling how effective that could be when it still depends on the affected person, and there's a high possibility for him to continue without the influence of his friends. Quitting becomes a temporary fix when his gambling problem could still go on, and at that point, it's better if they find another solution that could help him overall.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: BitcoinTurk on February 11, 2024, 01:55:26 AM
Everyone is responsible for their own decisions and actions in life, not only in gambling but in everything else. If it has become a tradition within a group of friends to make small amount of bets only on special occasions and if this is a method of fun for that group of friends, I would definitely not give up gambling for a single addicted friend of mine. Of course, in gambling there will always be at least one or more addicted people among a group of friends but overcoming this addiction depends on the stability and discipline of that person.

For example, in the last few days I have constantly wanted to play Sweet Bonanza and unfortunately I play this game every night with small amounts but in the evening I realized that the total of these small amounts was quite high and I realized that I had to stop it. What was the result? I didn't play Sweet Bonanza tonight because I have the discipline to control myself in gambling. So, anyone who acts consistently and disciplined can do this.

In summary, I would definitely not give up gambling which I was doing just for fun because a friend of mine was addicted to gambling. Just like in the example I gave from myself, it is possible to prevent this in the slightest situation where gambling ceases to be fun and this completely depends on the character of the person.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Darker45 on February 11, 2024, 02:45:37 AM
I don't have to entirely quit gambling just for my friend, but the gambling sessions will have to end. The group should just think of another hobby that's equally fun and entertaining but not financially damaging. It's about time they would have to replace their old ways of bonding.

But the rest of the group may continue with their own moderate gambling hobbies, either individually or with some other group of friends. It's a bit unfair to deprive the rest of their hobbies just because a friend is irresponsible.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on February 11, 2024, 03:03:29 AM
Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.
Yes, I would also do the same. It seems like he has chosen to become addicted to gambling because he found it interesting when it was introduced to him. However, he may not be aware of the negative effects it can have on his life. It's important for him to realize this and have supportive friends like you who are willing to confront him. If this causes any strain on your friendship, unfortunately, there may not be much that can be done. But it's important to prioritize your friend's well-being and help him recognize the potential harm of his actions.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: danherbias07 on February 11, 2024, 03:16:24 AM
I can do that. If you really love your friend then you would do anything for him.
I mean, it will not only be good for him because he might stop thinking about gambling but it will also be good for myself since I won't be wasting money. Sure, those are small amounts but still, it's a good start to maybe change things in a better way. It's both a sacrifice and a reward for the two of us and I think the other friends will agree with it.

As a friend, we help, not escalate things. If we have the power to do something for our friend then do it. You called him a friend for a reason in the first place. Think about it, what if you were in the same position as him, don't you think he would also do it for you? My friends, I know they will.
If they see me becoming an irresponsible gambler then I bet they will tell me the truth about it and if we have a traditional game that we do every week then I bet they will try to stop for some time until I am in the right mind again to control my gambling problem. Especially if you know his whole family and you are worried they will also be affected by it, you don't want to be on the position to be called as a bad influence for him.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: borovichok on February 11, 2024, 04:50:03 AM
Friendship is about the good and bad times. I will help him out of the addiction and this will be achieved by introducing a new activity to the group as this will serve as a big distractor to him. I will not confront him or make him feel that what he is doing is bad because some friends have the habit of avoiding you when you render advice to them and so, instead of changing they prefer to stop associating with you.

To help him, I would ensure that my gambling is completely hidden from him because even if you tell him to seek help it will not be effective if he still sees you gambling. Make him believe that I no longer gamble again and if he tries to know the reason I can tell him the harm it has caused in my life. By this, you are sending an indirect message to him. Don`t be surprised he will also share his experience and understanding that something is a problem is the first step to solving the problem.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Orpichukwu on February 11, 2024, 05:19:24 AM
Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.
We all started this together for us to make our get-together more fun and enjoyable, and if it happens that what we take for fun is now affecting one of ours behind our back, the best kind of support we can render to him is to leave the game entirely and encourage him that we can do without the game and he should also do the same.
 
To go straight to your question: Yes, I can stop my poker game playing, and we can go to other activities that can contribute to our get-together fun.
 
We are talking about addiction here, and if stopping the game can contribute to him getting himself out of the addiction, why not pick the opportunity? We are all friends after all, and when he is affected, we will also get affected directly or indirectly, especially when this whole addiction gets to the point where he can't keep up with his own personal bills.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 11, 2024, 05:26:35 AM
A friend should always be a reminder to other friends. If a friend ends up becoming addicted to gambling, he should be able to remind him to stop his gambling activities at all costs immediately. And together with other friends, we must stop regular meetings just for gambling and replace them with other more useful things, such as exercising. It will shape his mind and can divert his mind from gambling. If they can do it for a few months and never gamble again, they can stay away from gambling, and hopefully, that can be a solution for them.

But if they don't want to stop gambling, I will immediately decide to leave them rather than experience even more serious problems. I don't want to become addicted to gambling, especially if I can't control myself and end up ruining my life. I would rather lose my friends than be destroyed by them, even though I have warned them to stop their gambling activities.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Hirose UK on February 11, 2024, 05:38:29 AM
It depends on them themselves in responding to the gambling activities they carry out, if they don't do it wrongly then failure will not occur and of course they will be able to minimize the incidence of gambling addiction.
But on the other hand, we as friends can still help by providing some suggestions or more appropriate directions for them to remain in safe condition and this will enable them to avoid some bad things that could happen at any time, as friends we can helping is priority.

But if I in condition like that, the steps taken are to hide all gambling activities from all friends and gamble only when I at home or in quiet place, this will not affect anyone regarding the gambling we do.
What more, we gamble in online gambling so it will be easier if we want to be able to gamble anonymously without anyone knowing.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on February 11, 2024, 05:52:06 AM
Well, in my case, assuming the story is true, I might consider it, but the problem I see is that if the friend has already developed compulsive gambling behaviour, the fact that we friends stop playing the poker game is not going to cure him of his problem. He will first have to make a conscious decision and then seek help from a professional to help him out of the hole. If he were already in the process, I would see more sense in helping someone who is in the process of recovery.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: pinggoki on February 11, 2024, 06:04:38 AM
I don't think that it's going to happen to me, I have a standard when it comes to how close the people in my life is and when it comes to friends, it's going to be difficult for me to acknowledge them as an inspiration to quit gambling or do something for their sake, sure there's loyalty but there's really no way to test it and it will probably be handy only when there's a benefit from both of you so I don't think that loyalty to your friend would make you do something lifechanging, to be honest I believe that it should be more on the "you should be the one that yearns for a change and not other people" because I believe that when it comes to quitting on something that's bad for you, I believe that it's not a good idea to be influenced by others to change when you're resisting on the inside, the help would become useless at the end of the day.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Samlucky O on February 11, 2024, 06:12:31 AM
At first gambling is alway a fun but frequent playing of it will Leed to becoming an addict and you will never know when you are becoming an addict. Sometimes if people tells you that you are an addict, you become naive or angry, not knowing that of a truth you have become one.
What they should do is to call him to Oder, by telling him directly that he has started playing gamble out of point. You know, some people don't know when they are doing wrong untill they are told. And neglecting the fact of telling them is putting them to more risk than ever. Though people might feel that telling them might cause a conflict or misunderstanding, but it should be better telling them than leaving quietly. because if the worst case scenario occurs today, his friends will be asked that what did they do as a friend to rescue their friend from gambling addict? Because as far as I know, friends has a big role to play within the cycle of friends. Except there is no love amongst them. Because the secret of every long lasting friendship is love and caring for each other.

So my point is that when a friend is going astray in gambling, please Call him to oder than letting go off him to his new Faith of becoming a gambling addict.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: rodskee on February 11, 2024, 06:15:45 AM
I am not a regular gambler instead I only gamble for fun and yeah some chance to win so there is no way
that I needed to quit gambling because of anyone as i am a controlled human that will never fall from any bad gambling effect.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Gozie51 on February 11, 2024, 06:16:00 AM

This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.


Don't we think the friends were also contemplating that they may also be affected negatively like their friends for a game that started for them as fun but has metamorphose into something that the friend can no longer stop himself from doing and betting hugely which is now affecting him.

So I feel some of the friends are not sure of not being addict themselves if they continued playing afterall the friend started by playing for fun, otherwise I don't see a reason they are quitting because of just the friend. If they are confident not to also be affected, they wouldn't have stopped. For example, people don't stop drinking because a friend has stopped it or that a friend vomits anytime he was drunk. Except when you decide by your own conviction.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Apocollapse on February 11, 2024, 06:22:15 AM
Friends can leaves while things stay ;)

Never limit yourself because of friends, it's either you need to gamble with other friends except him, looking for new friends or gamble alone. Why you need to sacrifice yourself because of friends, when your friends didn't do same thing for you, you will regret why you need to prioritize him over yourself when he's prioritizing him or his new friends over you.

So I won't quit gambling for a friend.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: coin-investor on February 11, 2024, 06:46:15 AM


This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.

Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.
One of the option is not to include him on your poker playing sessions when you have one, or you will all agreed to tell him straight that he is doing it all wrong, don't just leave the group you all have to do something for a friend if you are all friend to the guy you will be concern on his status its not good that you are all good and one of your friend is addicted to gambling and worse if your other friends become addicted to gambling too your addicted friend could influence your other friend, so its not good if one in your circle has serious addiction to gambling.

You should all do something about it if you want to retain harmonious relationship with friends or you will have to leave each other. Remember birds of the same feather flocks together you should have all one goal and this is just to enjoy poker and not to get involved in gambling and become addicted to it.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: acroman08 on February 11, 2024, 07:26:01 AM
Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.
if it is just a casual friend that you hang out with from time to time with your other friends, I'd say just stop hanging out with that friend especially if their addiction is ruining the mood every time you hang out with your friends. if it is a very close friend of mine I'd confront them and give them a reality check, tell them that they need to get professional help and let them know the negative effect of their gambling addiction is causing to the people around them.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Yogee on February 11, 2024, 07:49:32 AM
What's the point of changing your lifestyle now? I think it's already too late if he's gone that far. You can stop showing the friend your gambling activities but it doesn't matter anymore since he could still go to the casino or log in to his online account. There are many places where he could be exposed too like socials media ads and gambling clips.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Outhue on February 11, 2024, 08:03:33 AM
That type of friends are rare, even close friends don't care about a friend addiction, they are not fully aware of themselves and if one become a addicted gambler the rest will probably end up the same way.

The friends should avoid gambling for a while, and the addicted one will slowly give up and follow his friends footstep, some people are like this, they easily copy their friends and few times they overdo it.

Influence is a scary thing in some area, this day where you can like someone for who they are and decide to follow them, for the love you have for them you are ready to change because of them, there are so many humans that are build this way, but I am not one of them, I always believe that I am different and I am not ready to change because I like someone, I respect who they are and I respect myself too.

The friends did the right thing, I could quit gambling if I am one of the friends, since it all began from the group, so they are in power to put an end to their friends addiction.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: michellee on February 11, 2024, 08:11:35 AM
If a friend is addicted to gambling, other friends should try to get him out of gambling. He probably won't realize that he is already addicted to gambling. The task of his friends is to help him stop his gambling activities before it is too late. After all, he is his friend and must be helped immediately before his addiction gets worse.

And it was a good plan to leave gambling just to help his friend who was already suffering from addiction. If they still decide to gamble, we are the ones who have to withdraw from the friendship. We do that so that we don't experience problems in gambling. Moreover, we realize that we do not have good self-control when gambling.

We can also contact his family and tell them that he has become addicted to gambling. We should tell the truth to his family so that they can immediately help him to cure his gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Marvelman on February 11, 2024, 08:20:08 AM
Interesting story, but not very relatable. That's a rough spot for the friends.  I get why some folks wouldn't relate - not all of us have watched a buddy wrestle with addiction.  Sure, sitting him down and pushing rehab is one idea.  But not every person would feel right stepping up like that.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Mauser on February 11, 2024, 08:41:22 AM
Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.

If I see a friend struggling with his emotions during a gambling session I would definitely approach him and talk to him. Good friends should have nothing between them and it's all about helping someone in need. Everybody can feel bad after a big loss and struggle to control himself during a night. Especially when alcohol is involved then things might get worse. The question is if this is just something that happens rarely or something that happenes on a regular basis. In case my friend is losing control and the gambling is affecting his life then I would definitely talk to him and try to make him understand that the current path he is on is not working. The second step would likely be to try and exclude him from the gambling nights. This doesn't mean that things should happen behind is back, but rather make him understand that he needs to take a break from gambling. The most important thing should be for my friend to realise that he is in trouble and that he needs help. It doesn't help much if all the friends try to help him, but he doesn't realise himself what is wrong and will just continue in his old ways. As a good friend I would definitely listen to my friends when they approach me and say that I am gambling too much.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: the rise on February 11, 2024, 08:47:04 AM
it depends on the situation how important the friend is to us, if it's just an ordinary friendship, I don't think there's a need to stop because of force of circumstances, but it's different if our friend is a friend we love and we care about him, it's better to stop because it's for the good, after all this is not about gambling for fun because your friends also become addicts out of habit


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Assface16678 on February 11, 2024, 08:50:53 AM
I don't think that stopping gambling would help the friend; maybe avoiding your friend from seeing you gamble or not inviting your friend who is already addicted to gambling is more effective. Am I willing to quit my own gambling habit? No, instead I will confront my friend about what he is doing wrong and do my best to stop him, to lecture and guide him so that it will wake him up in his bad situation, but if this is not enough, then at least I did my best. It's not my obligation to stop him from gambling; maybe just my conscience. But still, the ones who are responsible for their habits are themselves. If your friend is in a bad state, you could do anything you can to help him, but if that is not enough, let him face his own consequences. Let them feel and learn for themselves what they are doing wrong.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Promocodeudo on February 11, 2024, 08:50:59 AM
So I heard a story of some acquaintances that in their friend group, some person really got addicted recently.
At first it was just fun and game, they would sit together and play some slots together in a big screen with some 10€ or so for as much as this would last them with small stake spins. And this is something they would do on big occasions. Only when together as a group and only for big days like birthday parties etc.

But the thing is, unbeknownst to them, one person in their friend group was really compulsive. So in the course of a few months, he became really addicted. He would spend much of his own money from his salary on slots and sports betting, eventually losing most of it regularly every month. Then on nearly every get together he would ask his friends to chip in so they can play slots this time in his account. Every time asking for more significant amounts too.

This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.

Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.

To me I don't think that quitting will help such friend, the best option is to confront this friend though at this point you should be expecting two things since addiction is now involved, is either he refuse to listen to your advice or he listen, another fact to consider is that he may listen but do otherwise later in different location, addiction is something else, I think people should know their addiction level before going into something not only gambling, both alcohol, this things has changed the phase of many people mindset, just imaging he plays with almost everything he got as a salary which might be affecting his immediate family that's if he has, this gambling of a thing is something most of us should be very careful about because addict isn't a joker.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Accardo on February 11, 2024, 09:25:42 AM
Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.
if it is just a casual friend that you hang out with from time to time with your other friends, I'd say just stop hanging out with that friend especially if their addiction is ruining the mood every time you hang out with your friends. if it is a very close friend of mine I'd confront them and give them a reality check, tell them that they need to get professional help and let them know the negative effect of their gambling addiction is causing to the people around them.

Addiction from group gambling, can be contagious from one friend to another. So, if a gambler continues playing the game with the addicted person, it could affect the next person. The need to caution the player to stop gambling is also important. Because as a friend, he's meant to be helped. However, he shouldn't be neglected. But moderated. Letting him stay on his own without an attention, will increase his compulsive gambling. And he can establish friendship with different gamblers who are not yet aware of his addiction. A friend should check those possibilities before avoiding another addicted gambler. If the still responsible gambler is capable of mingling with his addicted friend without engaging into gambling with him, which is almost impossible, he should be there for him. Especially when the person doesn't have close family that'll take care of him.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: KiaKia on February 11, 2024, 10:32:38 AM
You can't find me in the midst of friends that are gambler, and I don't take anyone along to become a gambler like me, in fact, I have always advise against it, because if someone turn into a gambler because of me and they get addicted, I will be the one to blame, by his other friends and families.

You don't want to carry someone along in this gambling thing, you will hate yourself, it has happened to me in Bitcoin investment, and they forced me to carry them along, I should have just told them to do their own research themselves, but I thought I was doing them a favour, it later turned out that Bitcoin started dropping and they panic, saying their money is shrinking every day, in the end I told them to sold if they can't withstand the loss.

Till today I am not in good terms with them, and they failed to realize their own mistakes too, calling Bitcoin a reap off scam coin, since that time I've vowed to never do such favour again, so I believe that gambling will even be more ugly.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: len01 on February 11, 2024, 01:02:11 PM
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Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.
I would prefer to avoid any risks that could interfere with or influence gambling activities for the worse.
like the case you described, indeed as friends we will not feel that we have a problem with the behavior of a friend who addicted but if it is done all the time for me it will be detrimental to ourselves because of course we will spend money on him betting and we could be affected becoming an addict gambling if you continue to associate with an addict.

so if I have an experience like that I better avoid it for the common good as you said as a friend should be the best and for me the best just to avoid and let him regret his actions and immediately seek help to cure himself of addiction and I will be one the person who would help him if he could have the self awareness to recover from his gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: EluguHcman on February 11, 2024, 01:48:59 PM
The other guys quitting their gambling games of fun for the addicted guy isn't a remedy for his compulsive acts, the guy should be confronted as you OP suggested and let him know clearly that NO, this is not how you all started and what yours plans are, you should give him accounts of his lost in his salaries and ask him if he is comfortable of the losts? Ask him how you would devote himself for a continues lost? Because as much as he continues this way, he would continue to loose.

Let him know that initially you all where relaxed on playing for funs and not profits, ask him what his aim in staking so excessively with his salaries are, if was it still for the funs or he is chasing after profits? Infact, you must make him feel like he has ruined his life in the sense that he can no more achieve great things are much as the rest of you people does and then he would have these words and otherwise thinking that would trouble how mind even without your notice.
He can keep playing the one of the occasion and fun type with him and ask him how he feels about it and compare it to the other side which he extended to visiting the casino and after betting he comes back home with a disappointments and broken emotions as a result of his unbearable lost While gambling.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: YOSHIE on February 11, 2024, 02:35:45 PM
Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Friends are friends, gambling is gambling, so these two things have different relationships, gambling is more about the character of a hobby and addiction, friends are more about the character of the soul, for me I stopped gambling based on a friend's advice or not feeling bad, that's a different problem.

For me to stop gambling, based on friends, for me it doesn't matter, I don't follow that advice, in fact I dare to say that friends are still friends, don't bother looking for food, that's my principle in dealing with friends and stopping gambling.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: killerfrost on February 11, 2024, 02:38:12 PM
It's true, sometimes what starts as harmless fun can turn into a tricky situation, especially with gambling. Not everyone becomes an addict, but that "just a few bucks" mindset can sneak up on you fast, leaving you feeling like you're on a financial rollercoaster.

And yeah, even if your other friends seem chill with gambling, it can still have ripple effects. Seeing someone gamble a lot can make it seem normal, even tempting, for others. That's why open communication is key.

Now, telling your friend to "just stop" might not be the smoothest move. Instead, try a caring chat where you express your concerns, like how their gambling habits might be affecting them. Don't judge, just offer support and maybe suggest checking out some resources with a therapist or specialist who can help navigate this stuff.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Zigabel on February 11, 2024, 02:41:40 PM
Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.
The only rime I would quit gambling entirely will be if it becomes a problem to my family especially my immediate family, asides this I will only continue to make adjustments as much as it suits me because I feel allowing some One else's habit affect you as a friend is mostly by choice so if you don't have that strong will not to go ahead wallowing in something you could just avoid and prevent then that's totally on you. If I find out a friend is beginning to get addicted to a habit that was supposed to be an occasional habit I will rather quit that friendship or avoid when such that I wouldn't frequent around them no morethis is because they may Start appearing to me like they lack discipline and self control.

Once I sense thst you lack any of this as a friend from the sake of my mental health rather than quit or please you I will adjust before I get influenced by your habit while trying to help you get better because generally bad habits a re quickly contagious than the good.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Hatchy on February 11, 2024, 02:48:02 PM
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Every situation has a solution, but I don't believe quitting your gambling activities for a friend will necessarily solve their addiction problems. Your decisions should consider the type of friendship you have with the person, the seriousness of their addiction, and whether they genuinely want help and are willing to quit.
Supporting a friend with an addiction can be tough, but you should seek a solution that doesn't negatively impact you. It's important to show care and support for your friend in a meaningful way that demonstrates your solidarity with them.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Ruttoshi on February 11, 2024, 02:55:06 PM
From what I understand, the addicted person did not get addicted on the few times that they do have a get together poker game. He got addicted on his own, which means he has being gambling on his own without their knowledge, and this was why it took them some time before they discovered that he has become addicted.

Therefore, if his friends choose to give up gambling, for his sake, the addicted gambler will still be gambling on his own and what they planned to achieve, which was to help him from his addiction will not be achieved, which makes it not worth sacrificing your pleasure for.

I will not accept that suggestion, because it is only the addicted person that can determine to stop gambling on his own, for some reasons. It is better to still gamble with him but always advise him and see how you can help him out, or seek help for him from somewhere.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: aioc on February 11, 2024, 02:59:55 PM


Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.

I will do the same when it comes to your enjoyment and gambling activity as long as you are on the safe side gambling I will not quit gambling just because I have to show a friend that we need to stop gambling so he will not become addicted and become a good influence to him, I'll have a talk with him and to his family, because it's the family that needs to influence him into stopping gambling, a friend is limited to what he can do he can only offer advice but his family should be the one to step up and take action so he will be cured from gambling.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Yatsan on February 11, 2024, 03:09:34 PM

Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.
Are they together 24 hours per day? You could still gamble when he's not around if you know to yourself that you are just fine unlike with your friend. You have a jchoice to hide things from him if you know that he could be triggered of some of your activities. I understand that guilt might be running on his mind which is where this idea came from but in reality, we do always have many options in every situation. Why would you stop something which you enjoy just because your friend is not doing the same thing, on the same field of activity? Always prioritize your happiness than with others. There's no need to give up your friendship as well. Just don't let him know al of the things you are doing because you have the rights to do so and that you are having a valid reason as well.


Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.

I will do the same when it comes to your enjoyment and gambling activity as long as you are on the safe side gambling I will not quit gambling just because I have to show a friend that we need to stop gambling so he will not become addicted and become a good influence to him, I'll have a talk with him and to his family, because it's the family that needs to influence him into stopping gambling, a friend is limited to what he can do he can only offer advice but his family should be the one to step up and take action so he will be cured from gambling.
Also, how sure are we that he'd do the same thing if we happened to be on his situation? Some of us are just too kind to sacrifice that much even your source of haappiness when it comes on other people's regard. But once we think of the same action being reciprocated to us, reactions differ. Everyone could engage to gambling as long as they have the means to do so, excluding minors, but regardless of your circumstances. If you became addicted into it, then be aware of your fault first and have yourself be helped by professionals and not just pity from other people who are just minding their own.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: kojektea on February 11, 2024, 03:18:54 PM
if he is a good friend, yes of course I will be willing to make sacrifices with him, I mean if he is someone special to me, but if not I will let him be because it is not an obligation, because sometimes it will cause problems if we reprimand our friends even with the aim of which is good, so why should I bother taking care of my friend's life


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: nara1892 on February 11, 2024, 03:41:38 PM
I don't have to entirely quit gambling just for my friend, but the gambling sessions will have to end. The group should just think of another hobby that's equally fun and entertaining but not financially damaging. It's about time they would have to replace their old ways of bonding.

Bad things have happened and in this situation there really must be changes made, one of their friends has been affected by the decision to gamble together unknowingly and clearly now everything has happened and his friend has entered the addiction phase to spend his entire salary every month. On the other hand as you suggested, the group should really change their plans, they should divert to other activities, there are many other things or forms of entertainment that have no risk but are fun. But I think there is a more important issue that should be resolved first, which is to help their friends who are affected by gambling by agreement of the group in whatever way they think is reasonable. After all, this is a shared responsibility and of course every problem must be solved together.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Coin_trader on February 11, 2024, 04:04:00 PM
This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.

Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.

Definitely. You should stop showing any sign of gambling if you have a problem with compulsive gambling problem. It’s like your friend have a liver failure and addicted to cigarettes yet you keep smoking with him when you get together.

If you are a real friend, You will consider what’s your friend problem and if your activity will be affecting him badly. I have a suicidal friend before and we always become positive when we are around him until he recovers. We never talk about anything that is related to what is giving him stress. It’s very easy to stop this gambling if you really love your friend in fact you can play online to make it discreet to your problematic friend.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Hispo on February 11, 2024, 04:13:39 PM
I think I would be willing to do that for a friend, yes. It is not like someone would be completely giving up on gambling because of a friend, they are just quitting gambling in a social context for the sake of the mental and financial health of their friend. Also, I would talk to him and call him out on his addiction and let him know he needs to sell for professional help for him to face his problems.
You know, when someone goes through gambling addiction is very easy for them to also feel tempted to try drugs or alcohol to peace their depression and self-loathing feelings, those people did good on stopping get gambling instead excluding their friend, otherwise he would have continues to gamble because of depression and anxiety even among other people who are not actually their friends. It is better for all of them to switch the gambling entertainment of their social meetings to someone completely unrelated and still fun, like playing videogames or even dancing (if they are into it), during those meetings their friend could even realize not all in life is gambling and it is possible to continue to live without wagering money. On the other hand, it is a very different question if one would be willing to completely quit gambling (not only the the social aspect but all aspects) for the sake of a friend. Some won't be able to do such sacrifice.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: panjul07 on February 11, 2024, 04:22:53 PM
Why would I quit gambling for a friend who is addicted to gambling and ruined his life?
Will it give a positive effect to my friend if I quit gambling? Will he lose his addiction once I quit? The answer is NO, am I right?
As a friend, we can just tell him what is the best thing to do so he can (at least) reduce his addiction.
One of the first things we can do is just dont talk to him anything related to gambling, do not tell him if we are still gambling.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: bittraffic on February 11, 2024, 04:26:24 PM
The group of friends is somewhat feeling a bit of guilt for contributing to the addiction of their friend, I think I would be willing to do something else just to sway this friend away from gambling as it's not good seeing a friend struggle. It's not such a bad attempt to try providing a solution to make this friend quit for it's becoming serious already.

What sort of just for fun could turn his life into a mess because the group introduces him to it. I'm sure some may disagree about the decision but what good does it do to a friend when he spends his money out of control on this addiction and I mean what are friends for?


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: bitvalak on February 11, 2024, 04:26:51 PM
I don't think there's any need to change anything for that friend. People will become logical thinkers as time goes by. The one who starts the addiction is himself, not anyone else.
We cannot control what other people want to do, even if we try to limit it, there are still many ways for them to gamble.
Do you want to spend your time just wanting to cure your friend of addiction? If the question were for me, of course I would refuse. I have no moral responsibility to do that, it is his right to gamble as long as he wants.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: livingfree on February 11, 2024, 04:31:17 PM
It's easy, if the whole circle of my friends agreed to do it then I'll just do what they do but 100%? No. We can revert our attention into other games like playing computer games where we can enjoy and that might help that poor friend of ours.

It could be quitting temporarily or just reverting attention. As long as there's a help for that friend of ours then I'd love to do it until he comes back to normal.

But I don't know how long I can hold to into helping him but if my other friends feel guilty with the influence. A reminder will come by and I'd just leave a disclaimer that we're not there to help him forever.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on February 11, 2024, 04:32:51 PM
Think about what the word friend means, and what is the difference with the word buddy? Buddies hang out together and have fun, and that's where it ends. When it comes to something serious, when it comes to trouble from which you need to pull a friend out, only friends will remain next to him. Friends should not be afraid to tell him to his face that he has a problem that needs to be treated. Just tell him that he should not come to such parties where games are present.
The choice will be your friend's. But instead of collectively quitting games, you can help him with a specialist who treats gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Rufsilf on February 11, 2024, 04:40:32 PM
In my opinion, it would be better if I showed him some concern by telling him that his behavior is unacceptable and that he shouldn't play longer.
For example, I could tell him to take a break, or we could decide as a group of friends to go on a trip, vacation, or even just a picnic as a way to bond rather than go to a casino to gamble.
Personally, I wouldn't give up my gambling hobbies because for me it is part of my recreational activity and it does not affect me. Still, I'm only taking a break so that my friend can focus on something other than gambling or perhaps taking up a new hobby.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: serjent05 on February 11, 2024, 04:50:37 PM
Would you do the same for a friend?

I have an option since why would I quit gambling when I can do my gambling activities without that friend's knowledge?  I would participate and support the plan of my colleagues to stop the group poker game just to show that we are concerned about our friend's problem with gambling.  But when it comes to private gambling activity, I won't let my friend's situation affect my gambling activity since I have the right to keep things private from them.  As long as I know I am doing fine, I won't quit gambling. 

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I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit.

I do not think there is a need for confrontation and say what you have stated.  It might go wrong and might be misunderstood by the friend and get offended.  I think it is better to just keep quiet about our gambling activity and do our best to not let them know about it.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: JoyMarsha on February 11, 2024, 05:00:47 PM
There are certain things I can call a quit for a friend's happiness(although that depends on personal relationship) and there are things I don't intend to quit because of a friend.
I wouldn't want to give up gambling because of a friend's addiction. What I might do is speak with him or her about how to pursue the gambling path and become less addicted to it rather than gambling their salary each month, which would ultimately put them in poverty (not being able to provide for their family).


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: dothebeats on February 11, 2024, 05:21:53 PM
I may not quit but I would certainly tell him to not overdo things and just take it slow. I'll also remind him that it's better to always have some extra money for other things rather than use it on something that has a high chance to lose the money and not gain anything. There are tons of things that I can do for a friend which don't warrant me to stop doing what I need to do. He just have to see that I'm trying to help him get out of the mud that he found himself into.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Slow death on February 11, 2024, 05:33:17 PM
In my case I would first talk to him and tell him to stop playing immediately and seek medical help and I would also tell him that I would immediately stop playing for an indefinite period of time. This is to show him that it is possible to stop playing and that if he cannot stop playing then he realizes that he is sick and needs help, he alone will look at himself and look at me and realize that I stopped playing because I am not addicted to games, while he cannot stop playing because he is sick. Even though I know that when I stop playing it won't solve his problem immediately, I will still stop playing because in the same way that my friend became addicted to games, I can also become addicted to games, so I need to I also stop gambling for a while to see if I too have become addicted to gambling

When some time passes without me playing and I don't have any compulsive desire to play, then I'll go back to playing but with more moderation, because I've seen the price you pay when someone plays excessively, that is, that friend of mine who became addicted to games, it also gave me the idea that gambling can be much more dangerous than one imagines, whenever something sad happens, we should use that sad event as a reference point in which we should not make the same mistake, I have done that in my life. I already had relatives who were addicts, so I know very well how destructive addiction is, which is why I don't do anything that led my relatives to become addicts. We can often think that if we stop playing because someone we know became addicted, we would be giving up things we play because of other people, but I think people shouldn't think that way.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: borovichok on February 11, 2024, 05:34:51 PM
if he is a good friend, yes of course I will be willing to make sacrifices with him, I mean if he is someone special to me, but if not I will let him be because it is not an obligation, because sometimes it will cause problems if we reprimand our friends even with the aim of which is good, so why should I bother taking care of my friend's life

I don`t think it is that easy to quit because of a friend. What if you are making good funds? What if you always have fun when you gamble? What if gambling is your only source of happiness? Can you just give that away because of a friend? Does quitting solve the problem? I`m not sure you can.

Some persons make good funds from gambling so it is even difficult for them to stop because it is a profitable venture for them not to talk of quitting because of someone`s recklessness. There are better ways to help out and not stop. What if you stop and he continues? Has the problem been solved? Of course not.

I know some people who are always gambling because of the fun and the happiness they derive when they gamble. I don't think if you fall into this category you can trade your happiness for a friend. Not possible. That will be displeasing yourself to please a friend.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: nimogsm on February 11, 2024, 05:37:06 PM
Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.
If a similar problem happened to my group of friends, we would definitely have to take a break from our games of poker and gambling. The second stage is to provide professional help for our friend until he returns to his previous state and overcomes this problem.If the adaptation period had taken more than six months, we would have continued to play, but in secret from our friend so as not to provoke him, and we would have kept our games secret. It seems to me that friends should meet and help their friends who find themselves in such a situation.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: passwordnow on February 11, 2024, 05:39:58 PM
Nope.
I'd tell him that we're all responsible for our actions and if you think that the people surrounding you is influencing you badly, then you have to keep yourself away. I may give some help and I'd personally go away and that's going to be my contribution and a few words of encouragement that he shouldn't go for more when he's being affected badly with his gambling habits. There is no other people to blame for that and what he's experiencing but himself. That's all he needs to know so that he will be knocking himself with the reality that it's not doing him good.

What I might do is speak with him or her about how to pursue the gambling path and become less addicted to it rather than gambling their salary each month, which would ultimately put them in poverty (not being able to provide for their family).
Yeah, that's already enough. Giving him the advise and words on what he must do is our part on his journey if he wants to get out of addiction. But you know that it's the hardest part when someone gambles and becomes addicted eventually. If he likes what he's doing, it's okay but make sure that he's controlling his spending habits and he's not going to put it all in with every single bet that he makes and don't affect his other important errands daily.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: RockBell on February 11, 2024, 05:44:35 PM
if he is a good friend, yes of course I will be willing to make sacrifices with him, I mean if he is someone special to me, but if not I will let him be because it is not an obligation, because sometimes it will cause problems if we reprimand our friends even with the aim of which is good, so why should I bother taking care of my friend's life
And it is only a good friend will advise you to quit gambling, and that will be the reason that he has seen the damages that gambling is causing the person must have gone out of control for the friend to give advice, and if I have any friend that gambling a lot I will just advice them to get a job and leave gambling for the main time because some people don't want even to work again. It is not as if they are winning. and I don't mind if my friend gets angry just because of the advice I wanted to give him about something that will help his life, and one of the solutions is if the person should get a job then the person will even find if it more difficult to have time to gamble, but if the person is idle then expect anything from such people.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Juse14 on February 11, 2024, 05:54:59 PM
Sometimes we are too busy taking care of other people's life problems but we don't take care of ourselves, including problems that happen to our friends for reasons of being together. and when talking about the problem of gambling addiction, this is a very complex problem and quite difficult to find a way out of, but with encouragement from the people closest to him, be it friends or relatives, it will be a motivation for him to be able to realize his bad behavior in gambling. .

And if in your circle of friends there is someone who is addicted to gambling, then as soon as possible you must be able to make that person aware. Because it is feared that gambling addicts can have a negative impact on your circle of friends, which could be that when your circle of friends does not have strong determination and belief, one by one they will slowly fall into the same problem, namely gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Hanadawa on February 11, 2024, 06:16:30 PM
This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... -snip-
You are right but such a situation will destroy his life and his friends slowly. I'm guessing your friend isn't married because you haven't told him about his family at all. But I can say that over time he will become more and more broken and it will impact his relationships with his close relatives and people around him.

I'm worried that he has started trying to get into debt to gamble. You may not mention it here because he hasn't done that but one of the bad effects of gambling addiction is that you will become addicted to debt. What would you do if he tried to owe you money?


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: uneng on February 11, 2024, 06:23:51 PM
Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.
I would do the same while on his presence. I wouldn't gamble in front of him or talk about my gambling activity anymore to him, because it could work as an encouragement for him to continue gambling, so I would try avoiding this kind of subjects when talking to him. Instead of that, we could talk about another matters and practices which can be potentially good for him to forget gambling and engage himself in more healthy habits, due to his current addiction.

However, my life would continue in the same way when away from this friend. There is no reason to stop gambling because you have an addicted gambler friend. It doesn't mean you are also going to become an addicted one. You just have to be careful with your bets and watch yourself to analyze if you are playing in a responsible and reasonable way.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Lorence.xD on February 11, 2024, 06:24:39 PM
This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... -snip-
You are right but such a situation will destroy his life and his friends slowly. I'm guessing your friend isn't married because you haven't told him about his family at all. But I can say that over time he will become more and more broken and it will impact his relationships with his close relatives and people around him.

I'm worried that he has started trying to get into debt to gamble. You may not mention it here because he hasn't done that but one of the bad effects of gambling addiction is that you will become addicted to debt. What would you do if he tried to owe you money?
Tricky question but it should be a no, and if he insisted or threat you like your friendship is on the line, then things would be wrong on a different level. Your task as a friend, although it is not required, is to guide him/her to better life decisions but still, it depends on the individual whether he would follow your suggestions and advices 'coz we cannot for them anyway. Even if he becomes mad, let him be than to be a part of his potential addiction. And if that's the case, try consulting his family about it and convince them to have your friend be checked by professionals for the betterment of his situation.

But going back to the main question, will he really stop if you won't gamble? 'coz if he's really into gambling, he would still do so  Your act of stopping, will just lessen the engagement but won't guarantee that his friend would do the same thing on times he's just alone. If he's already at that point that he goes that much with his bets, then he's basically problematic of it. Try talking to him in private and make him aware of things if he's not yet. But again, it will depend on him.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Lida93 on February 11, 2024, 06:30:42 PM
Would you do the same for a friend?
There are things we can do for friendship especially for childhood friends as it will be sympathetic seeing such a friend going astray due to gambling addiction and you do nothing of much effort to support him out of it. We are friends for a reason and maybe a little form of encouragement and sacrifice could go a long way in bringing him back on track.

Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think.
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There are people that can't on their own help themself and what they just need to get off from whatever problem they are struggling from is just a form of  helpful closure from close associates like friends. A true friend won't stop hanging around you just because of your problem you're struggling with, like how do you define that to me that you're only going to hang around with me only when am in a positive situations.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: electronicash on February 11, 2024, 06:34:50 PM
This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... -snip-
You are right but such a situation will destroy his life and his friends slowly. I'm guessing your friend isn't married because you haven't told him about his family at all. But I can say that over time he will become more and more broken and it will impact his relationships with his close relatives and people around him.

I'm worried that he has started trying to get into debt to gamble. You may not mention it here because he hasn't done that but one of the bad effects of gambling addiction is that you will become addicted to debt. What would you do if he tried to owe you money?
Tricky question but it should be a no, and if he insisted or threat you like your friendship is on the line, then things would be wrong on a different level. Your task as a friend, although it is not required, is to guide him/her to better life decisions but still, it depends on the individual whether he would follow your suggestions and advices 'coz we cannot for them anyway. Even if he becomes mad, let him be than to be a part of his potential addiction. And if that's the case, try consulting his family about it and convince them to have your friend be checked by professionals for the betterment of his situation.

But going back to the main question, will he really stop if you won't gamble? 'coz if he's really into gambling, he would still do so  Your act of stopping, will just lessen the engagement but won't guarantee that his friend would do the same thing on times he's just alone. If he's already at that point that he goes that much with his bets, then he's basically problematic of it. Try talking to him in private and make him aware of things if he's not yet. But again, it will depend on him.

putting the friendship on the line seems like a gambler applying himself.
the friends are still vaguely responsible for this friend to have gotten into this mess. and because this guy is among the friends they play with in their weekend hobby, i think he is worth saving.

all the methods i think should still be tried on him and more tolerance to his behavior to give him the the chance. there is always a Barry in every group of friends. maybe even two Barrys.




Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: bitbollo on February 11, 2024, 06:45:04 PM
if it could work as solution yes of course. no doubts.
for a friend this and even more... but can it always work? any situation, any friend? Is this really the solution to adopt?
I'm skeptical that it will work in the long term but happy to be proven wrong.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: topbitcoin on February 11, 2024, 06:55:12 PM
nevitably, situations like these are intricately difficult and fraught with. It can be distressing and unnerving to see someone close to you in such agony. The approach to this dilemma is contingent on many aspects such as one’s familiarity with the person, the level of intimacy between them, or personal values but it is also a subjective decision that is primarily dictated by one’s own choice.
Confronting your friends about their gambling addiction and urging them to consult an expert is a kind-hearted action. Taking the step of providing support and resources to friends for their issues can be seen as the beginning of helping them out of difficult circumstances.

If, however, your friend does not answer or refuses to get assistance, and you keep being influenced negatively by their behavior, setting a healthy boundary for yourself might be an option. This may involve less involvement with the friend or curtailing the amount of time spent together. Although taking action for your protection is never easy, it is often needed to keep balance in your life. But one should bear in mind that such things are not always so straightforward and simple; it can be a matter of time as well as introspection to make the right decision. Regardless of what you choose, providing support and empathy to a friend struggling with gambling addiction is an important step in helping them on their recovery journey.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: junder on February 11, 2024, 06:59:36 PM
In my opinion, if you are addicted, it will be difficult to stop if you don't have self-awareness. stop gambling for a friend? in my opinion it doesn't make sense, unless you stop gambling for your own good, because we are the ones who do it, and we have to have good self-control so that there is no bad impact that can happen to other people, because the bad impact of gambling addiction can be It also has an impact on other people if we cannot control ourselves well.

If gambling really has an impact on our friends or other people, then we really have to stop because of course other people don't know anything about the gambling we do ourselves, but if it's a friend, they will definitely give their best, to advise us so we can stop. gambling is good because basically friends are supposed to remind each other of good things, a friend certainly doesn't want bad things to happen to other friends, therefore if there is friendship then they should remind each other.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: stomachgrowls on February 11, 2024, 07:06:34 PM
So I heard a story of some acquaintances that in their friend group, some person really got addicted recently.
At first it was just fun and game, they would sit together and play some slots together in a big screen with some 10€ or so for as much as this would last them with small stake spins. And this is something they would do on big occasions. Only when together as a group and only for big days like birthday parties etc.

But the thing is, unbeknownst to them, one person in their friend group was really compulsive. So in the course of a few months, he became really addicted. He would spend much of his own money from his salary on slots and sports betting, eventually losing most of it regularly every month. Then on nearly every get together he would ask his friends to chip in so they can play slots this time in his account. Every time asking for more significant amounts too.

This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.

Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.
As a friend then it would really be just that right to do so that you should really be that telling him about on the actions that he's been making on which it isnt really that viable anymore or something that do talks about not being right because on the time that you are already spending tons of money with gambling activity then this is a solid indication that you are already addicted or someone who do lose off control when it comes to spending.
It is really just that sad to see for someone who do really loses up their control and ended up on being addicted just because of too much greed and too much interest with gambling.If you do two who have been
having those kind of activity occasionally but he had decided to play on solo and you are tending to quit your gambling session then it wont really be totally  get rid into his addiction.
We do know on how it would really be ending up yet most of us wont really be tending to care on what are other people would be saying even if he's your friend.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Oilacris on February 11, 2024, 07:16:01 PM
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As a friend then it would really be just that right to do so that you should really be that telling him about on the actions that he's been making on which it isnt really that viable anymore or something that do talks about not being right because on the time that you are already spending tons of money with gambling activity then this is a solid indication that you are already addicted or someone who do lose off control when it comes to spending.
It is really just that sad to see for someone who do really loses up their control and ended up on being addicted just because of too much greed and too much interest with gambling.If you do two who have been
having those kind of activity occasionally but he had decided to play on solo and you are tending to quit your gambling session then it wont really be totally  get rid into his addiction.
We do know on how it would really be ending up yet most of us wont really be tending to care on what are other people would be saying even if he's your friend.
As a friend then you would really be definitely be having those thoughts that you should be helping your friend but actually no one would be able to help him out but only himself
could do it. When a person do really gets addicted then there's no way that they would be hearing out someones advises even how close you would be on which it would really be something
that will really be just that ignored and they would really be continuing on what they are doing because they would really be sticking out into those interest that they do have in mind.
You would really be having those kind of thoughts that its none others business on how they should really be treating up those things.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: erep on February 11, 2024, 07:37:27 PM
As a friend then you would really be definitely be having those thoughts that you should be helping your friend but actually no one would be able to help him out but only himself
could do it. When a person do really gets addicted then there's no way that they would be hearing out someones advises even how close you would be on which it would really be something
that will really be just that ignored and they would really be continuing on what they are doing because they would really be sticking out into those interest that they do have in mind.
You would really be having those kind of thoughts that its none others business on how they should really be treating up those things.
We are in control of ourselves and we cannot fully make the decision to stop gambling without consulting other people, including your close friends. I really like friends who care about providing positive motivation to improve their life and financial patterns for the better without the influence of gambling addiction. I have to give appreciation to friends who remind each other to set budget limits for gambling and they have made them aware that gambling is just entertainment so you must be vigilant to avoid becoming addicted to gambling again.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: lombok on February 11, 2024, 07:51:39 PM
Our obligation is to remind each other of friends who have started to stray and accompany them. Yes, occasionally having a fight so that the friend is aware is also not a problem. However, if subtle and rude efforts such as fighting still don't wake him up, I personally prefer to stay away from him and don't want to have anything to do with that person again.

At least we have tried, if it doesn't work then it is our decision not to change.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Rruchi man on February 11, 2024, 07:52:40 PM
So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.

Would you do the same for a friend?
I would do so for a real friend  who I know will do it for me.  it will be bad to abandon this friend with their addiction that you know will definitely lead them to depression which in bad cases can lead them to considering  suicide because of the debt they will accumulate along the way.

You all got into gambling together, it is thoughtful that you are all considering dropping gambling together to help your friend. I believe it is what friendship is all about, making sacrifices for each other.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Fortify on February 11, 2024, 08:05:44 PM
So I heard a story of some acquaintances that in their friend group, some person really got addicted recently.
At first it was just fun and game, they would sit together and play some slots together in a big screen with some 10€ or so for as much as this would last them with small stake spins. And this is something they would do on big occasions. Only when together as a group and only for big days like birthday parties etc.

But the thing is, unbeknownst to them, one person in their friend group was really compulsive. So in the course of a few months, he became really addicted. He would spend much of his own money from his salary on slots and sports betting, eventually losing most of it regularly every month. Then on nearly every get together he would ask his friends to chip in so they can play slots this time in his account. Every time asking for more significant amounts too.

This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.

Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.

Frankly someone that starts going down that path sounds a bit like a leach that is not respecting their friends, if they are constantly asking to borrow money. It is one thing to waste your own cash on such pursuits, but when you run out - it's really time to evaluate your choices and stop if you're in such a dire situation. Why should a group of friends, who have their lives and finances in order, give up a fun activity because one person in the group has lost all sense of control, they should simply not get invited to this particular gathering any more. There are plenty of non-gambling related activities that you could do with them, which would probably help them break the cycle, without impacting on the rest of the group socializing like this.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: AmoreJaz on February 11, 2024, 08:20:32 PM
So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.

Would you do the same for a friend?
I would do so for a real friend  who I know will do it for me.  it will be bad to abandon this friend with their addiction that you know will definitely lead them to depression which in bad cases can lead them to considering  suicide because of the debt they will accumulate along the way.

You all got into gambling together, it is thoughtful that you are all considering dropping gambling together to help your friend. I believe it is what friendship is all about, making sacrifices for each other.

maybe not totally quitting but slowly reduce your gambling sessions. because if you totally stop the sessions, the tendency of going back again is always there. much better if your group will set the mood of your friend to stop his compulsions. find another group activity that you think all of you can enjoy, like camping/hiking, regular sports that you believe can alter your gambling activities.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: darkangel11 on February 11, 2024, 08:41:15 PM
I'd do both of the things OP mentions, so I'd confront him and also stop meeting for a while, or I'd stop inviting him to the games. You definitely should do something when you know his condition is getting worse and you should also talk about it with the rest of your friends and come to a decision. I know similar behavior from gaming because there's often that one guy who if you decide to play a game together and start meeting for it every evening will get addicted and keep playing all day without you. Some people are just prone to this kind of compulsive behavior.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: kingvirtus09 on February 11, 2024, 09:03:48 PM
It's simple: a true friend, when he sees that his friend is in trouble, will remind him, and if he continues and doesn't listen, he will talk to him again, remind him again, and tell him the bad effect it has on his friend, even if he is angry. The important thing is that you showed true concern and were a true friend.

Now, if the friend continues with such a vice, there is nothing we can do about it because it is their choice, although we feel sorry for our friend's condition when that happens to him. So, of course, that's the path he chose.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: famososMuertos on February 11, 2024, 09:06:17 PM
Another story of addiction, but this time the context does not lead to gaining a few more lines of ideas...

Pay for a consultation with a specialist doctor or give him $100, that's enough as a friend.

What you do or don't do, doesn't have to be judged, I believe that in this life one has to be an example for their children and pride for their parents and you can even be a gambler.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on February 11, 2024, 09:07:54 PM
Friends can sacrifice for their friends, or should I just say that, a friend can sacrifice for a fellow friend, as long as the sacrifice is something he or she can afford to do, though it sometimes might be something difficult, all depends on how deep such friendship is, and how Strong the foundation is.

Personally, If I had a friend whom I spend time with gambling for fun, and I noticed that he or she through our gambling activities had become addicted, I do not mind myself quiting gambling for his or her sake, at least, for that main time, i might later on resume my gambling activities again on my own or still with him or her when he gets better and completely healed from his or her gambling addiction, but from then on, I will personally take it upon myself that we both follow precautions and rules that will ensure he or she never gets addicted to gambling again.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: DaNNy001 on February 11, 2024, 09:09:08 PM
This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... -snip-
You are right but such a situation will destroy his life and his friends slowly. I'm guessing your friend isn't married because you haven't told him about his family at all. But I can say that over time he will become more and more broken and it will impact his relationships with his close relatives and people around him.

I'm worried that he has started trying to get into debt to gamble. You may not mention it here because he hasn't done that but one of the bad effects of gambling addiction is that you will become addicted to debt. What would you do if he tried to owe you money?
What's there to do other than actually not borrow him the money when I know very well that all he is gonna do is use it for gambling. I think I would even called that as part of indirect encouragement because other than looking for ways that will help him out, you lend him money to gamble and like you said I hope he doesn't have any family because if he does then it will really be a sad story because I know very well that the entire family will be affected by such reckless ways of gambling.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Yamifoud on February 11, 2024, 09:18:43 PM
For the sake of my friend's advice, I would listen but it was hard to promise to quit gambling.
Because I'd never find it wrong and harmful to gamble as long as we stick to the limit. Of course, addiction is another story that needs immediate actions and stoppage if possible. But as I see into myself, I wasn't in that situation and I don't go beyond what I am doing now. Gambling responsibly is always on my mind and I kept it that way.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 11, 2024, 11:45:05 PM
The truth is that I would do it for a friend , because the Problem of Addiction is very Strong , it is hard and can be treated with very good dispositions , it would not be Iimportant to me to play little or even play alone unless a friend is It will get better, because we don't know the twists and turns of life, today a friend that we can help can be the one Who does Something for someone in the Future , Maybe that's a benefit if we remove him from that Addition we could save his life, but that friend can change and can help many more and can make a Difference with Another, so in this order of ideas things can happen in that way, in these things we must be there for those moments, we cannot abandon them, play in unc asin? At the moment anything can be done, even in our Homes , and be Aable to make a difference, that is why we have to do everything well and Always think about our Neighbors, I don't know about you, but I have Always thought of something, if you help Someone, you will feel very good.

Those people who help Others are Something very Nice that is felt in the Soul , if Even with people who are not friends , I like to Help them , now Imagine that one Helps one's own friends, that is something That It has to be done, I don't know but I think things Can turn out well that way.

There are many who do not Experience these Things , but do not know or what they are Losing , of course when they tell me to Help them with money , then I Evaluate the things and I can See that whether I can or not, whether I can fit my Economic Capacity or not , it is very Difficult Well , I think most people are like that, but if I had a lot of money, I think it would help many people with the addiction to Gambling and with things that Have to do with the diction of any drug dealing in general, in itself it would help To other people it is something that can be very nice.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Westinhome on February 11, 2024, 11:50:11 PM
For the sake of my friend's advice, I would listen but it was hard to promise to quit gambling.
Because I'd never find it wrong and harmful to gamble as long as we stick to the limit. Of course, addiction is another story that needs immediate actions and stoppage if possible. But as I see into myself, I wasn't in that situation and I don't go beyond what I am doing now. Gambling responsibly is always on my mind and I kept it that way.

If the gambler friend was so close to the gambler,the gambler will quit the gambling for his friend.But their was the exception in the gambling if the gamblers was not addicted to gambling.The gambling addiction was the biggest thing,by the addiction many gamblers use to loss their own money.The gamblers with knowledge doesn’t get into the addictive at any point.Some experience gamblers will play the game with the knowledge of not get into the gambling addiction at any point.If the money was loss,it could be recovered in other resources.The gamblers will stop gambling after the loss in the gambling site,because it prevents gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Oilacris on February 11, 2024, 11:52:10 PM
This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... -snip-
You are right but such a situation will destroy his life and his friends slowly. I'm guessing your friend isn't married because you haven't told him about his family at all. But I can say that over time he will become more and more broken and it will impact his relationships with his close relatives and people around him.

I'm worried that he has started trying to get into debt to gamble. You may not mention it here because he hasn't done that but one of the bad effects of gambling addiction is that you will become addicted to debt. What would you do if he tried to owe you money?
What's there to do other than actually not borrow him the money when I know very well that all he is gonna do is use it for gambling. I think I would even called that as part of indirect encouragement because other than looking for ways that will help him out, you lend him money to gamble and like you said I hope he doesn't have any family because if he does then it will really be a sad story because I know very well that the entire family will be affected by such reckless ways of gambling.
If you are seeing your friend is on such state of addiction then of course you would really be that thinking about on having that kind of approach on which you shouldnt really be finding ways or methods
on which they could really be able to play again on gambling on which it is really just that having sense that if ever he would really be borrowing some funds then it is really just that right
that you would really be ignoring or would really be that tending to neglect it out or reject such request. There are really just those people who are really that afraid on losing their bestfriend and this is why on the time that making such request then they are really that giving it out because they do cherish out their friendship and its just money then its up to someone on how he would really be doing about it.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: klidex on February 12, 2024, 01:28:07 AM
When someone is familiar with gambling from friends and plays it together for fun, this can indeed trigger someone who is not yet familiar with gambling to continue their activities even though they are not together. It is important to always remember friends when gambling so that they don't overdo it when gambling and stay safe. have limits because gambling can cause the danger of addiction which is detrimental to the gambler. If you are just having fun without giving each other advice of course those who don't know about gambling don't know about the risks of gambling so they overdo it and it causes them to become addicted. To be honest this is not the fault of their friends because they are able to control their gambling is himself, even though it started from hanging out, but if his friends feel guilty, it's okay to stop gambling for a moment because to help the addict treat his addiction slowly and can start gambling again if the addict's condition starts to improve and can give advice about the risks that should be taken faced so that his friends do not become the main factor causing his own addiction.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: piebeyb on February 12, 2024, 06:06:38 AM
For the sake of my friend's advice, I would listen but it was hard to promise to quit gambling.
Because I'd never find it wrong and harmful to gamble as long as we stick to the limit. Of course, addiction is another story that needs immediate actions and stoppage if possible. But as I see into myself, I wasn't in that situation and I don't go beyond what I am doing now. Gambling responsibly is always on my mind and I kept it that way.
People who can stay away from gambling addiction are those who are willing to listen to advice from other people, you are right that good advice will bring us much better, although you don't have to stop completely as long as you can still gamble responsibly, I think it will never be a problem, but don't because you can do it consciously, being able to protect yourself from being addicted to gambling doesn't mean you can get rid of gambling addiction, everyone will definitely fall if their life is without a life support or the people around us who always give advice.

But as long as you listen to other people's advice, I'm sure it will be safe. I also often hear advice from people close to me not to gamble excessively which can eventually make me addicted. If I feel like I'm out of bounds, that's why I try to stop. gamble for some time so that it will come back again after things get better, after all it is important to protect yourself from gambling addiction, especially since gambling addiction is very difficult to cure, it is natural to listen to advice from anyone for our own good


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: SeaCoinCollector. on February 12, 2024, 06:24:29 AM
It's challenging situation when a friend develops a gambling addiction. It's advisable for them encourage them to seek help and address their addiction. If they refuse help and your friend's behavior has a negative impact in your life, its better to set boundaries or distancing oneself is necessary for own mental health andn well-being. It's a difficult situation, but we should support our friend in overcoming addiction.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: maydna on February 12, 2024, 06:42:43 AM
For the sake of my friend's advice, I would listen but it was hard to promise to quit gambling.
Because I'd never find it wrong and harmful to gamble as long as we stick to the limit. Of course, addiction is another story that needs immediate actions and stoppage if possible. But as I see into myself, I wasn't in that situation and I don't go beyond what I am doing now. Gambling responsibly is always on my mind and I kept it that way.
If the gambler friend was so close to the gambler,the gambler will quit the gambling for his friend.But their was the exception in the gambling if the gamblers was not addicted to gambling.The gambling addiction was the biggest thing,by the addiction many gamblers use to loss their own money.The gamblers with knowledge doesn’t get into the addictive at any point.Some experience gamblers will play the game with the knowledge of not get into the gambling addiction at any point.If the money was loss,it could be recovered in other resources.The gamblers will stop gambling after the loss in the gambling site,because it prevents gambling addiction.
Perhaps if the gambler can control his gambling activities, he will still return to gambling sometimes even though he has said to stop gambling immediately. His friend was only worried about him becoming addicted to gambling because it could destroy him, especially if he forgot about other activities he had to do. Many friends may already be addicted to gambling and unable to realize and stop their gambling activities. This might disrupt the friendship between them, but he should realize that his friend only wants to save him from the dangers of gambling and also doesn't want to see him addicted to gambling. Certainly, a friend does not want to see another friend experiencing serious problems, so he will keep reminding him to stop his gambling activities.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Z390 on February 12, 2024, 09:56:29 AM
I won't quit anything for a friend, because I won't influence a friend to be a gambler in the first place, it's something that I use to do in private, none of my friends know that I am into gambling, and whenever someone from my family is trying to be a gambler, maybe like my niece I use to give them some clues and facts about been a gambler, and it's left for them to make a choice after.

Some friends don't care what happen to you, I will advise against following the steps of your friends just because you are a part of the group, it's not bad to have friends but keep your limit, when it comes to money and success there is really not genuine friends here.

Most friends I have are just for having friends sake, I am very picky with people but change is the only thing that's constant, this is why you don't want to rely on a friend entirely, do not do what they are doing, choose your own part, a medical doctor can be a friend with a lawyer, they don't have to be both medical doctors.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: slapper on February 12, 2024, 01:48:50 PM
Quit gambling for a pal? No problem, if it means saving them. Gambling should enrich our lives, like any activity. Seeing addiction symptoms and knowing when to stop. This is about protecting their and our futures, not just changing behaviors. Confrontation? It's one method. It's not a panacea. Not only urging someone to get treatment, but teaching them there's life beyond slots and gambling. Truly loyal friends are worth the effort. Silence seems like an easy way out, but it's quiet desertion. We're better than that


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: swogerino on February 12, 2024, 02:00:36 PM
So I heard a story of some acquaintances that in their friend group, some person really got addicted recently.
At first it was just fun and game, they would sit together and play some slots together in a big screen with some 10€ or so for as much as this would last them with small stake spins. And this is something they would do on big occasions. Only when together as a group and only for big days like birthday parties etc.

But the thing is, unbeknownst to them, one person in their friend group was really compulsive. So in the course of a few months, he became really addicted. He would spend much of his own money from his salary on slots and sports betting, eventually losing most of it regularly every month. Then on nearly every get together he would ask his friends to chip in so they can play slots this time in his account. Every time asking for more significant amounts too.

This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.

Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.

I would do the same.I would never change my way of living for a specific friend.In general friends are there to help each other but when a friend asks beyond what friendship permit then no I am in no way altering my lifestyle to make "happy" such a person.I have been in a case where addicted colleagues in my old job in the very salary day asked me if I had a 50 bucks to owe to them and at first time I gave them but once they started in consecutive way I even blocked their contact in my phone.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: gabbie2010 on February 12, 2024, 02:07:45 PM

Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.
I don't think confronting your friend would change his addictive ways of gambling, however changing your lifestyle wouldn't neither change his addiction, even if you guys decided to quit your friend would move elsewhere to satisfy his gambling habit would you be monitoring him? No, my suggestion is that he needed some thorough counselling especially about the danger of being an addicted gambler and it consequences I believe thstvsooe action  would surely change him for better, however confronting him might add more salt to the wound and further confrontation would likely ended up being recalcitrant can every result to exchange of words.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Volimack on February 12, 2024, 02:17:11 PM
Regarding gambling I have very little idea and I don't gamble every day so there is no reason to give up gambling for a friend. Playing regularly can become an addiction that will have a negative impact on my life, and negatively affect my lifestyle. That's why I don't like to hold off for too long even if I bet a little for fun.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Crypt0Gore on February 12, 2024, 02:44:24 PM
If stopping my gambling activity will help someone to overcome their gambling addiction it sounds right and sit well with me, I can do it but I promise you that I won't land in such position in the first place, someone can't become a gambling addict because of me, t I don't keep such friends, I know people who are into gambling, we grow up from the same state and that's it, but I don't keep friends that are into gambling because I doubt they can control themselves like I do.

I only know how to be a responsible gambler by myself, I can't promise that others will be like me, and I don't want to risk it, normally gambling can be a reason why I won't become a friend with someone, because many of gamblers are too reckless, in the case of gambling only you knows what you are capable of, bringing someone along won't end well.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Out of mind on February 12, 2024, 03:04:20 PM
In many places and areas, it can be seen that many people are familiar with gambling, and they play bets with the intention of making money from it. A person in my circle of friends used to gamble a lot, and he got addicted to it, but now he has stopped gambling, which is the best news for him.  When that person used to gamble online he always stayed inside his house and never wanted to go out, but he gambled most of the time he must have been deeply engrossed and addicted to gambling. And he lost more than he earned from gambling, and he even lost his time and borrowed money from many friends, but still he didn't gain much. But later when all my friends came to know about his addiction I advised him in various ways to stop gambling, but he didn't listen, instead he made many plans to continue gambling. But later he somehow got out of gambling under the pressure of his family, and he is now in a much better mental state. But gambling definitely makes a person mentally ill, and it becomes the most difficult thing to stop once the person gets into gambling, so the best thing to do is to stop gambling.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on February 12, 2024, 03:54:46 PM
-snip-
Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.
For the question, yes, I can quit gambling for a friend, and quitting in such a circumstance they played is the easiest thing to do. If I want to gamble at all after that, I can quietly gamble on my own, after all, it would not be an issue to another person in this regard. Well, the friends of the addict are not to be blamed in all senses, only that he (the addict) was of a weak mind amongst them, which is why he could be the only one affected among many friends. As it is, I think that quitting was the best thing for all of them and mainly because of their friend, it is a better decision to make.

They can still play ordinary games and have fun, it mustn't have to be about money involvement (gambling), and there are a lot of other activities and engagements that are funfilled they can switch to, so I love the decision they have taken. We must know that it is not about what we want and believe in always, but the right thing for the common good of all. Albeit they've done that, I would still like it if they do not limit it to that only. They can continue by helping the friend to heal from that addiction. Telling him about his predicament and suggesting to him what to do alone are not the solution but to also be part of the healing process with proper monitoring and follow-up until he heals. That's what we call friendship.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Yamifoud on February 13, 2024, 11:10:12 AM
For the sake of my friend's advice, I would listen but it was hard to promise to quit gambling.
Because I'd never find it wrong and harmful to gamble as long as we stick to the limit. Of course, addiction is another story that needs immediate actions and stoppage if possible. But as I see into myself, I wasn't in that situation and I don't go beyond what I am doing now. Gambling responsibly is always on my mind and I kept it that way.
People who can stay away from gambling addiction are those who are willing to listen to advice from other people, you are right that good advice will bring us much better, although you don't have to stop completely as long as you can still gamble responsibly, I think it will never be a problem, but don't because you can do it consciously, being able to protect yourself from being addicted to gambling doesn't mean you can get rid of gambling addiction, everyone will definitely fall if their life is without a life support or the people around us who always give advice.

But as long as you listen to other people's advice, I'm sure it will be safe. I also often hear advice from people close to me not to gamble excessively which can eventually make me addicted. If I feel like I'm out of bounds, that's why I try to stop. gamble for some time so that it will come back again after things get better, after all it is important to protect yourself from gambling addiction, especially since gambling addiction is very difficult to cure, it is natural to listen to advice from anyone for our own good
One reason why some gamblers fall into addiction is because they think they are alone. They never share their stories nor ask and listening other's opinions. I'd see some people get into addiction because they are out from socialization, they feel like gambling makes them happy rather than being into friends and family gatherings. This is why I see how important to keep open to all advice and value their opinions because those people around us usually observe and notice what happens to us.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: summonerrk on February 13, 2024, 11:26:03 AM
So I heard a story of some acquaintances that in their friend group, some person really got addicted recently.
At first it was just fun and game, they would sit together and play some slots together in a big screen with some 10€ or so for as much as this would last them with small stake spins. And this is something they would do on big occasions. Only when together as a group and only for big days like birthday parties etc.

But the thing is, unbeknownst to them, one person in their friend group was really compulsive. So in the course of a few months, he became really addicted. He would spend much of his own money from his salary on slots and sports betting, eventually losing most of it regularly every month. Then on nearly every get together he would ask his friends to chip in so they can play slots this time in his account. Every time asking for more significant amounts too.

This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.

Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.

Unfortunately, our friends are often the best bet ads. And they don't suspect it themselves, but the promoters from the casino know it perfectly well. Imagine the usual situation: your friend won a good sum, of course he will brag about everything, creating an advertisement for this bookmaker in his own words. And this is very bad. After all, now all his friends will go to place bets, because they will see how easy it was for him to earn such money.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Blowon on February 13, 2024, 11:32:16 AM
in my opinion it's useless it won't mean anything, awareness within yourself will produce results, it's useless if you stop it won't affect your friend, he can play anytime if he wants, it's better to give him directions


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: sompitonov on February 13, 2024, 11:48:01 AM
If stopping my gambling activity will help someone to overcome their gambling addiction it sounds right and sit well with me, I can do it but I promise you that I won't land in such position in the first place, someone can't become a gambling addict because of me, t I don't keep such friends, I know people who are into gambling, we grow up from the same state and that's it, but I don't keep friends that are into gambling because I doubt they can control themselves like I do.

I only know how to be a responsible gambler by myself, I can't promise that others will be like me, and I don't want to risk it, normally gambling can be a reason why I won't become a friend with someone, because many of gamblers are too reckless, in the case of gambling only you knows what you are capable of, bringing someone along won't end well.
I also don't bring friends into this because I know what it could do in the worst case scenario if he becomes addicted to the game. Whether that's the case or he wins the jackpot, I don't even want to know. So if he finds out about the games, then I definitely won’t be the one from whom this information will come for him. Of course, I understand that many people tell their friends about gambling and how you can have fun there, but you need to think a little ahead and more than fleeting fun for both of you.

To answer the OP’s question, I would definitely quit the game for a friend, but the key idea here is that the easiest thing is not to bring yourself or anyone else to such a difficult choice. I don’t want to scare those who want to tell a friend about this, but remember that one day, he won’t have much fun after many losses in a row, and you won’t help him with this.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: rojan on February 13, 2024, 04:35:36 PM
One reason why some gamblers fall into addiction is because they think they are alone. They never share their stories nor ask and listening other's opinions. I'd see some people get into addiction because they are out from socialization, they feel like gambling makes them happy rather than being into friends and family gatherings. This is why I see how important to keep open to all advice and value their opinions because those people around us usually observe and notice what happens to us.
As far as I can imagine people get addicted to gambling because of many reasons. If a person is lonely most of the time without hanging out with friends and spending time with family then that person can become addicted to gambling. There are many such people.  A person who likes to be alone most of the time, once he starts gambling, he gradually becomes completely addicted to gambling, and later faces various problems and family disturbances.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Sanugarid on February 13, 2024, 11:18:43 PM
So I heard a story of some acquaintances that in their friend group, some person really got addicted recently.
At first it was just fun and game, they would sit together and play some slots together in a big screen with some 10€ or so for as much as this would last them with small stake spins. And this is something they would do on big occasions. Only when together as a group and only for big days like birthday parties etc.

But the thing is, unbeknownst to them, one person in their friend group was really compulsive. So in the course of a few months, he became really addicted. He would spend much of his own money from his salary on slots and sports betting, eventually losing most of it regularly every month. Then on nearly every get together he would ask his friends to chip in so they can play slots this time in his account. Every time asking for more significant amounts too.

This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.

Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.

He's a good friend if he thinks like that. Most of us will not stop gambling just because our friend is an addict, we can help and empathize but those who stop gambling are rare.

In my situation, I can stop gambling first and bond with him, think of another hobby so he can forget gambling first. I'm not addicted to gambling so I can handle it and stop it, I'm not going to quit, it's like I'm going to spend time with my friend first because he needs my help. This is how I am with my friends, when they need sympathy I go to them or they go to the house. My friends are like my brothers because we've been together for so long.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: dezoel on February 14, 2024, 04:38:31 PM
I am not a regular gambler instead I only gamble for fun and yeah some chance to win so there is no way
that I needed to quit gambling because of anyone as i am a controlled human that will never fall from any bad gambling effect.
Much more if someone is severely addicted, they are less likely to quit their habits for the sake of someone else because they are mostly selfish and can care less on the people around them, especially if it was only their friend but if it was their family there might still be a chance that they will change. IDK but quitting gambling with a friend can sound like dying for a friend, but who the fuck they are or how special friends are for us to do that?

What I only know is that friends are usually the ones who can influence you to do a bad habit and this is the reason on why our parents are angry with us and they want us to stay away from our friends.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: agustina2 on February 14, 2024, 05:25:27 PM
His own money, his own rules. Why should you be all concerned about where he spends his salary? It's PRIVATE. I found it uncomfortable if people around me, even though they were my friends, were monitoring where my salary went but on the other hand, I'm a responsible person outside of gambling.

The story is not complete and only focuses on how that person spends the money. We should also know not only about how the money is used by that person but also how he is when not gambling. What if he keeps on being a responsible person for their family despite spending money on gambling? What if he can still cover his usual obligations like monthly bills even with a gambling activity?

As a response to the thread's main topic, NO I WILL NOT ADJUST AND GIVE UP MY GAMBLING HABIT FOR THE SAKE OF MY FRIEND. Why should I?


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: HelliumZ on February 14, 2024, 05:58:38 PM
Sometimes I need some reference to stop myself from some important addiction or addiction especially when I control myself from any important addiction I give the most priority to the contribution of my friends. Especially my friends always give me various important suggestions on how to stop myself from those harmful addictions. Many times my friends take me to the hospital when I am sick and I get all the ideas and suggestions through my friends on what to do to meditate well. So slowly recovering from gambling is an important contribution to my friends.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: asyakashi on February 14, 2024, 07:13:03 PM
Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: GxSTxV on February 14, 2024, 07:48:56 PM
This whole story is quite interesting because it reflects two important things, the first one is gambling addiction which is a serious problem and is one of the bad sides of gambling that most of gamblers fall into, the second important thing of the story is real friendship and the sacrifice a friend is able to take to help a friend out.
We all know that gambling is bad if its taken way too seriously, the rush and the adrenaline we get from each gambling session pushes us to put more money and gamble more not caring about the losses that could come after it. Gambling addiction is very dangerous because you don’t know when to stop and quite frankly you wouldn’t want to stop you will just keep spending more money until you run out.

I think what those guys did for their friend is a good gesture and a proof of their solid friendship, it is not easy to let go of something you’re really passionate about but those guys did in order to help their addicted friend. I hope that helped their friend to get rid of that addiction.

Personally I think I would’ve took the same decision if one of my friends or close people got affected negatively because of a habit of mine, profits and money comes and goes but loyalty and friendship is more precious. Gambling is supposed to be a fun game, I wouldn’t enjoy it if one of my friends got addicted to it badly and watching him lose or waste all of his savings for it.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: goldkingcoiner on February 14, 2024, 07:59:13 PM

~snip

Would you do the same for a friend?

No, not unless he had a good and convincing reason to ask me to quit gambling.

Just because he is my friend does not make his reasoning correct. And he would have to convince me of that reasoning in the first place, so I would consider it at all. Because I do not enjoy being told what to do unless it has good reason. A lot of people exist in the world and each has his own morals and ways of living. Some people in this world want to be able to tell anyone what to do. But that is not right. Everyone has to be able to make their own, informed choices. They can try to talk to them and get them to see their side, but that is it.





Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Mr.suevie on February 14, 2024, 08:07:45 PM
One reason why some gamblers fall into addiction is because they think they are alone. They never share their stories nor ask and listening other's opinions. I'd see some people get into addiction because they are out from socialization, they feel like gambling makes them happy rather than being into friends and family gatherings. This is why I see how important to keep open to all advice and value their opinions because those people around us usually observe and notice what happens to us.
As far as I can imagine people get addicted to gambling because of many reasons. If a person is lonely most of the time without hanging out with friends and spending time with family then that person can become addicted to gambling. There are many such people.  A person who likes to be alone most of the time, once he starts gambling, he gradually becomes completely addicted to gambling, and later faces various problems and family disturbances.
I think there is popular phrase in my country which says an idle mind is the devils workshop and I think this is the perfect example to this because having nothing to do can really keep your taught vague and when you fill up that space with gambling then it's obviously gonna lead you to the road of sweet sweet addiction that's why its always advice to always occupied yourself with different activities if you find out that you are heading down that road.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Zoomic on February 14, 2024, 08:16:46 PM
His own money, his own rules. Why should you be all concerned about where he spends his salary? It's PRIVATE. I found it uncomfortable if people around me, even though they were my friends, were monitoring where my salary went but on the other hand, I'm a responsible person outside of gambling.

The story is not complete and only focuses on how that person spends the money. We should also know not only about how the money is used by that person but also how he is when not gambling. What if he keeps on being a responsible person for their family despite spending money on gambling? What if he can still cover his usual obligations like monthly bills even with a gambling activity?

As a response to the thread's main topic, NO I WILL NOT ADJUST AND GIVE UP MY GAMBLING HABIT FOR THE SAKE OF MY FRIEND. Why should I?

Real friends look out for each other. It wouldn't have been a thing of concern if he was gambling moderately  rather he was gambling with a huge part of his salary and still losing. Gambling with a huge part of his salary means he would have little amount left to take care of himself and his family. No one is going to teach him how to spend his money,  but a little reminder about his addiction won't hurt. We all know how disastrous gambling addiction can be and I think it is very okay for anyone who truly cares about you to draw your attention to it when you are walking down the wrong way.



If I have a friend who is addicted, I will not quit gambling just for his sake. I'd rather not invite him over whenever I gamble. There are many other measures out there that can be adopted to help an addicted gambler quit gambling or gamble responsibly.  If I quit gambling,  it will have no impact on his healing process.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Dewi Aries on February 14, 2024, 10:59:52 PM
One reason why some gamblers fall into addiction is because they think they are alone. They never share their stories nor ask and listening other's opinions. I'd see some people get into addiction because they are out from socialization, they feel like gambling makes them happy rather than being into friends and family gatherings. This is why I see how important to keep open to all advice and value their opinions because those people around us usually observe and notice what happens to us.
As far as I can imagine people get addicted to gambling because of many reasons. If a person is lonely most of the time without hanging out with friends and spending time with family then that person can become addicted to gambling. There are many such people.  A person who likes to be alone most of the time, once he starts gambling, he gradually becomes completely addicted to gambling, and later faces various problems and family disturbances.
I think there is popular phrase in my country which says an idle mind is the devils workshop and I think this is the perfect example to this because having nothing to do can really keep your taught vague and when you fill up that space with gambling then it's obviously gonna lead you to the road of sweet sweet addiction that's why its always advice to always occupied yourself with different activities if you find out that you are heading down that road.

Yes having a lot of time is very likely to eventually lead someone into gambling and spending a lot of time gambling, unemployment and not having any work activity is a pretty worrying situation, although basically not all unemployed people can get involved in gambling but there are some who are quite close to the gambling environment where one of their friends may be a gambler and when a scenario occurs where one of their friends introduces them or they ask to be taught how to gamble then this is where all the downfalls will start.

On the other hand, I'm honestly not sure if they can have a proper understanding of gambling because the situation of being unemployed (no income) will be the reason for them to gamble with the aim of earning and after that obviously they will pursue victory but on the other hand are not ready to accept the fact of losing, And I say that this is the initial scenario of someone entering the addiction where the pursuit of victory to restore something that has been lost they will definitely do and what is scary is that with a situation of not having a job (no income) then obviously it is not uncommon for us to see some gamblers who are addicted to them desperate to commit several acts out of control such as criminal acts whether it is stealing or robbing. On the other hand, the advice you gave is good by telling them to occupy themselves with other things when they already feel they are on the wrong path in gambling but what you have to understand is that addiction can happen to someone without them realizing it.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Wakate on February 14, 2024, 10:59:55 PM
One reason why some gamblers fall into addiction is because they think they are alone. They never share their stories nor ask and listening other's opinions. I'd see some people get into addiction because they are out from socialization, they feel like gambling makes them happy rather than being into friends and family gatherings. This is why I see how important to keep open to all advice and value their opinions because those people around us usually observe and notice what happens to us.
As far as I can imagine people get addicted to gambling because of many reasons. If a person is lonely most of the time without hanging out with friends and spending time with family then that person can become addicted to gambling. There are many such people.  A person who likes to be alone most of the time, once he starts gambling, he gradually becomes completely addicted to gambling, and later faces various problems and family disturbances.
There is reasons why we decided to be a gamma and whe that reason or urge is not accomplished then it means something is wrong somewhere. We need to know what we are doing and stop pretending on how to go about things to help us get going. I can do anything for a friend that is a good friend indeed. There are friends that are just there to take away the little you have and have fun with it. I don't bother much about friends but I respect good friends that can help me get things going. Cryptocurrency and gambling could sounds similar but we must see through the differences to stand tall.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: danadc on February 14, 2024, 11:36:58 PM
Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.
I also think that things are like that, that's why I don't like to stop playing for a while and it's necessary only so that my friends can heal and not suffer, in fact all of us, as good friends, should Doing this type of sacrifice, not just for a friend, I believe that this can be done for any person as long as they are not suffering from the greatest dangers, it is something we should not do.

Great friends do not care about material things, much less a game, I believe that the humanity of the world has been lost thanks to the fact that no one is capable of doing something good for someone, because everyone seeks their own interest, companies, People, everyone is cut off for now with the same tiojkera with a system that is making us sick and that makes us be or do selfish, something that I will never agree with, we must break that chain.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Westinhome on February 14, 2024, 11:45:07 PM

Much more if someone is severely addicted, they are less likely to quit their habits for the sake of someone else because they are mostly selfish and can care less on the people around them, especially if it was only their friend but if it was their family there might still be a chance that they will change. IDK but quitting gambling with a friend can sound like dying for a friend, but who the fuck they are or how special friends are for us to do that?

What I only know is that friends are usually the ones who can influence you to do a bad habit and this is the reason on why our parents are angry with us and they want us to stay away from our friends.

The gambler who was addicted to the gambling to the maximum,they never agreed the words of their friends and family members.Because do you understand he is addicted to the game,how the game addiction can be solved by the words from the friends.The initial stage gambling addict can be recovered by the words of the best friends.

But the gambling addict with more indeed can’t be recovered in few words,you need to keep on say the goods and bands of the gambling addiction.The most of the addiction was happened with the concept of gambling loss recovery,which is the hardest one.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: lienfaye on February 14, 2024, 11:54:47 PM
Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.
I also think that things are like that, that's why I don't like to stop playing for a while and it's necessary only so that my friends can heal and not suffer, in fact all of us, as good friends, should Doing this type of sacrifice, not just for a friend, I believe that this can be done for any person as long as they are not suffering from the greatest dangers, it is something we should not do.
If this particular friend is a compulsive gambler, even they stop this bonding as friends, he will likely find ways to continue this habit since he's the type who is already hooked in gambling. Stop playing for a while is a little sacrifice and a good decision. However, that doesn't mean this friend will also do the same. Chances are, he might continue playing in other place with different companions or doing it alone. Nevertheless it's really sad to see someone started playing to have fun but ended up being an addicted just because he don't have discipline to only play in moderation.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Quidat on February 15, 2024, 12:57:29 AM

~snip

Would you do the same for a friend?

No, not unless he had a good and convincing reason to ask me to quit gambling.

Just because he is my friend does not make his reasoning correct. And he would have to convince me of that reasoning in the first place, so I would consider it at all. Because I do not enjoy being told what to do unless it has good reason. A lot of people exist in the world and each has his own morals and ways of living. Some people in this world want to be able to tell anyone what to do. But that is not right. Everyone has to be able to make their own, informed choices. They can try to talk to them and get them to see their side, but that is it.




You wont really be that necessary on quitting gambling just for you to make your friend do quit up gambling on which you cant really just that make yourself making those actions just because you do have those kind of sympathy or  concern about his addiction.We do know that this is something personal.Yes, you can give out some advises but you cant really be able to give out those kind of giving up things just for him. Its up to him whether he would really be quitting or not for good but of course you cant really just that make yourself to have those steps which it isnt necessary.
We do have our own interest in life and if your friend did decide on engaging on gambling on that way then its his choice.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 15, 2024, 07:09:06 AM
Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.
I also think that things are like that, that's why I don't like to stop playing for a while and it's necessary only so that my friends can heal and not suffer, in fact all of us, as good friends, should Doing this type of sacrifice, not just for a friend, I believe that this can be done for any person as long as they are not suffering from the greatest dangers, it is something we should not do.
If this particular friend is a compulsive gambler, even they stop this bonding as friends, he will likely find ways to continue this habit since he's the type who is already hooked in gambling. Stop playing for a while is a little sacrifice and a good decision. However, that doesn't mean this friend will also do the same. Chances are, he might continue playing in other place with different companions or doing it alone. Nevertheless it's really sad to see someone started playing to have fun but ended up being an addicted just because he don't have discipline to only play in moderation.
If he gambles elsewhere without telling his other friends, that is his decision, and we can't do anything about it. Maybe we also can't help those who finally decide like that because they won't want to listen to our advice to stop their gambling activities because they are already addicted to gambling. But we can still try to approach him and give him suggestions so he doesn't fall deeper into gambling. As a friend, we need to accompany him even if he asks for help to help him cure his gambling addiction because after all, he is our friend who must be helped. So it will be his decision if he continues gambling without us knowing because it is beyond what we know.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: panganib999 on February 15, 2024, 11:29:16 PM
So I heard a story of some acquaintances that in their friend group, some person really got addicted recently.
At first it was just fun and game, they would sit together and play some slots together in a big screen with some 10€ or so for as much as this would last them with small stake spins. And this is something they would do on big occasions. Only when together as a group and only for big days like birthday parties etc.

But the thing is, unbeknownst to them, one person in their friend group was really compulsive. So in the course of a few months, he became really addicted. He would spend much of his own money from his salary on slots and sports betting, eventually losing most of it regularly every month. Then on nearly every get together he would ask his friends to chip in so they can play slots this time in his account. Every time asking for more significant amounts too.

This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.

Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.
Personally wouldn't sacrifice my indulgence and hobby (at this point since it's become a weekly get-together rendezvous for you guys to gamble even against each other) for the sake of someone whose urges he can't control. I'd do my best to help him in my own way though, like talking it out to him and making him realize that he's got a problem he needs to fix before he ruins his life one way or another. I wouldn't go so far as to quit just to urge this guy to quit as well but if the whole friend group's in on it I might back out of gambling out of peer pressure.

Call me evil or whatever but the thing is no amount of quitting for yourself's gonna stop a friend that's already a foot deep into the gambling grave. Most of the time issues like these are personal and therefore require little outside intervention, so my quitting wouldn't really help him whatsoever in the grand scheme of things.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: tbterryboy on February 16, 2024, 06:24:41 AM
Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.
That's the point, though one or the whole group of friends become ready to sacrifice their game nights and gambling activities when they are together for the friend who is vulnerable to gambling and might get addicted if they do it more, it wouldn't make any sense or change his mindset when his friends aren't around anymore because they definitely don't live together and the person getting addicted to gambling will still have access to gambling when he is alone.

So it's not about what friends do when they are together, but it's about how self-aware each one of them is so that no matter what they do when they have a get-together, they should have enough patience and self-control they don't make a habit out of the activities they have done together as friends.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Lanatsa on February 16, 2024, 06:55:58 AM
Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.
That's the point, though one or the whole group of friends become ready to sacrifice their game nights and gambling activities when they are together for the friend who is vulnerable to gambling and might get addicted if they do it more, it wouldn't make any sense or change his mindset when his friends aren't around anymore because they definitely don't live together and the person getting addicted to gambling will still have access to gambling when he is alone.

So it's not about what friends do when they are together, but it's about how self-aware each one of them is so that no matter what they do when they have a get-together, they should have enough patience and self-control they don't make a habit out of the activities they have done together as friends.
Not all of your friends or even you would definitely be doing such sacrifice, if ever they would really be leaving out gambling then it would be temporal since they could easily dumped you down and play on their own
on which we know that making up bets on your own could be still possible even if you dont let your friend know on what you are doing. Only a few would really be having those kind of symphathy on the time that you are on such tough situation but most of them wont really be caring up into your condition and would really be just that definitely be that sticking into their own routine with or without you.

This is why we cant really be able to make out those conclusions that friends would really be there in our side on the time that we are on such problem.In this case with myself on which
i wont really be that still so sure that i would really be that quitting up my betting habits just because one of our friends did fall out into addiction?
It would really be just that depending on you but much sure that not all would really be having those insights.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: goaldigger on February 16, 2024, 07:24:13 AM
Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.
We have limitations here, and we can only tell what is good and what is right, and your addicted friend will still be the one to decide for his/her own benefit. Also you have to set boundaries because your friend might get offended if you tell him to stop gambling, if that friend is still listening to you then better to suggest to seek professional help because you know to yourself that you are not capable to help him, especially on dealing with his emotions psychologically.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: nakamura12 on February 16, 2024, 07:56:35 AM
I would give him advice about what it may cause to a person and that's all because we can't just force them to stop because we are only a friend and not a family member. It would be much better if one of his family member or maybe all the family member should be the one who should make your stop gambling. Gambling addiction isn't good and it only cause problems to the gamber. I know how it feels or what it may cause when you become a gambling addict because I also gamble before I finally stop and what it cost me. Well, that was before and damn it's because of slot games.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: sokani on February 16, 2024, 08:12:40 AM
When you choose not to play with him you're not altering your lifestyle, rather you don't want to encourage him which is quite understandable and you can always visit the casino alone and have fun by yourself. But to be frank, I don't think that's the best solution because your friend may decide to do the same thing when you stop going out with him. The right thing to do is speak to your friend, let him be aware of his addiction and encourage him to seek for help.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: gunhell16 on February 16, 2024, 09:20:19 AM
A true friend is only there by our side when he knows he needs to remind you if he sees that things are not going well with us. And that thing is to give and make us feel truly blessed.

A friend cannot dictate to a friend who is also close to him, but only to feel true concern for a friend who is considered a friend. So we still have the final decision to make if we follow the advice of a friend of ours.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: angrybirdy on February 16, 2024, 10:45:37 AM
A true friend is only there by our side when he knows he needs to remind you if he sees that things are not going well with us. And that thing is to give and make us feel truly blessed.

A friend cannot dictate to a friend who is also close to him, but only to feel true concern for a friend who is considered a friend. So we still have the final decision to make if we follow the advice of a friend of ours.

Yeah that's true, true friends will really criticize you especially when they see what you are doing wrong and when we have a friend like that, let's appreciate it because that kind of person is rare nowadays. Sometimes there is nothing wrong if we listen to them because it is also for our good.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Ultegra134 on February 16, 2024, 11:03:53 AM
It's rather common when a group of friends are introduced to gambling gatherings that at least one of them will end up addicted. I've seen it on a few occasions. However, I don't find it necessary for the rest of the group to quit gambling, especially if they have full control over it and it isn't causing them any issues. Certainly, they shouldn't encourage it when he's in front, but eventually his compulsive behavior will lead him to start borrowing money and going into debt in a mere attempt to recoup his losses, a common mistake or misconception compulsive gamblers have.

The whole group quitting, although not necessary, is unlikely to have an effect; he has a mind of his own, and he's free to gamble with or without his friends. They need to assist him by seeking out a professional; otherwise, he'll end up screwed before he even realizes it.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: summonerrk on February 16, 2024, 12:19:41 PM
It's rather common when a group of friends are introduced to gambling gatherings that at least one of them will end up addicted. I've seen it on a few occasions. However, I don't find it necessary for the rest of the group to quit gambling, especially if they have full control over it and it isn't causing them any issues. Certainly, they shouldn't encourage it when he's in front, but eventually his compulsive behavior will lead him to start borrowing money and going into debt in a mere attempt to recoup his losses, a common mistake or misconception compulsive gamblers have.

The whole group quitting, although not necessary, is unlikely to have an effect; he has a mind of his own, and he's free to gamble with or without his friends. They need to assist him by seeking out a professional; otherwise, he'll end up screwed before he even realizes it.

Interest in gambling spreads quite quickly in groups of friends. Everyone strives to brag about their successes, to show how successful they are. But no one likes to talk about their expenses. I've seen those who lost a lot but kept it a secret. And let these people earn a lot, but later spending on gambling seriously ruined their lives.
I believe that you should try not to gamble periodically, because periodicity always makes any activity a habit. And unfortunately, there is someone with a weak character in every party.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 16, 2024, 12:26:55 PM
Yeah that's true, true friends will really criticize you especially when they see what you are doing wrong and when we have a friend like that, let's appreciate it because that kind of person is rare nowadays. Sometimes there is nothing wrong if we listen to them because it is also for our good.
True friends will always accompany us through thick and thin because they are sincere to us and vice versa. We have to appreciate our friends who always advise us for our good and we should also be able to do the same as them. At least they try to help us and are always willing to listen to what we complain about. If they can help, they will help us and always accompany us so we don't feel alone in solving the problem. We must also be able to do the same when our friends experience problems so that our friendship will be even closer because that is what true friends are like.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: slapper on February 16, 2024, 02:20:08 PM
Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.
That's the point, though one or the whole group of friends become ready to sacrifice their game nights and gambling activities when they are together for the friend who is vulnerable to gambling and might get addicted if they do it more, it wouldn't make any sense or change his mindset when his friends aren't around anymore because they definitely don't live together and the person getting addicted to gambling will still have access to gambling when he is alone.

So it's not about what friends do when they are together, but it's about how self-aware each one of them is so that no matter what they do when they have a get-together, they should have enough patience and self-control they don't make a habit out of the activities they have done together as friends.
Not all of your friends or even you would definitely be doing such sacrifice, if ever they would really be leaving out gambling then it would be temporal since they could easily dumped you down and play on their own
on which we know that making up bets on your own could be still possible even if you dont let your friend know on what you are doing. Only a few would really be having those kind of symphathy on the time that you are on such tough situation but most of them wont really be caring up into your condition and would really be just that definitely be that sticking into their own routine with or without you.

This is why we cant really be able to make out those conclusions that friends would really be there in our side on the time that we are on such problem.In this case with myself on which
i wont really be that still so sure that i would really be that quitting up my betting habits just because one of our friends did fall out into addiction?
It would really be just that depending on you but much sure that not all would really be having those insights.
Understand the relationship between healthy gambling and friendship. Not abandoning ship when hazardous waters are encountered; navigating them together. Perhaps some will stray, drawn to the lone bet, but that's beside the point. Real friends? Not your anchor, but your lifeline

It's simple to respond, "It's their problem, not mine," yet we're talking about empathy and humanity. Not everyone will support you. Choose to be the exception. Finding balance is vital, not quitting or betting the farm. You can back away from the edge, albeit not everyone will. Being the difference for yourself and others is possible. A choice that reveals your values and character


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Negotiation on February 16, 2024, 02:25:07 PM
Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.
That's the point, though one or the whole group of friends become ready to sacrifice their game nights and gambling activities when they are together for the friend who is vulnerable to gambling and might get addicted if they do it more, it wouldn't make any sense or change his mindset when his friends aren't around anymore because they definitely don't live together and the person getting addicted to gambling will still have access to gambling when he is alone.

So it's not about what friends do when they are together, but it's about how self-aware each one of them is so that no matter what they do when they have a get-together, they should have enough patience and self-control they don't make a habit out of the activities they have done together as friends.
This habit thing becomes an addiction at some point. If following the actions of friends every day will become a habit then even a conscious person will lose his control and it is not possible to go away even if he wants to then life is directed in a bad direction. It's better to walk away from work if it seems risky to hang out with a friend. You have to change your mindset there is no guarantee that you will always find a friend. If you can control yourself there is less chance of getting addicted to bad habits of friends.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Blitzboy on February 16, 2024, 04:23:18 PM
It's rather common when a group of friends are introduced to gambling gatherings that at least one of them will end up addicted. I've seen it on a few occasions. However, I don't find it necessary for the rest of the group to quit gambling, especially if they have full control over it and it isn't causing them any issues. Certainly, they shouldn't encourage it when he's in front, but eventually his compulsive behavior will lead him to start borrowing money and going into debt in a mere attempt to recoup his losses, a common mistake or misconception compulsive gamblers have.

The whole group quitting, although not necessary, is unlikely to have an effect; he has a mind of his own, and he's free to gamble with or without his friends. They need to assist him by seeking out a professional; otherwise, he'll end up screwed before he even realizes it.
I understand - its hard. Seeing a friend spiral is hard, but I believe in balance. When done safely, gambling may be fun. Rather than cutting off something people appreciate, establish lines when necessary. If I can restrict my gambling, excellent, but I must remain watchful. Setting boundaries, especially for vulnerable people, is whats needed, not quitting. Instead of stopping the activity, we should change how we use it in delicate situations.

Helping our friend is vital. Professional help and a supportive environment are essential. Gamble properly without triggering or enabling his compulsive behavior. A delicate balance between personal freedom and collective duty is needed.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Accardo on February 16, 2024, 04:36:26 PM
Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.
That's the point, though one or the whole group of friends become ready to sacrifice their game nights and gambling activities when they are together for the friend who is vulnerable to gambling and might get addicted if they do it more, it wouldn't make any sense or change his mindset when his friends aren't around anymore because they definitely don't live together and the person getting addicted to gambling will still have access to gambling when he is alone.

So it's not about what friends do when they are together, but it's about how self-aware each one of them is so that no matter what they do when they have a get-together, they should have enough patience and self-control they don't make a habit out of the activities they have done together as friends.
This habit thing becomes an addiction at some point. If following the actions of friends every day will become a habit then even a conscious person will lose his control and it is not possible to go away even if he wants to then life is directed in a bad direction. It's better to walk away from work if it seems risky to hang out with a friend. You have to change your mindset there is no guarantee that you will always find a friend. If you can control yourself there is less chance of getting addicted to bad habits of friends.

The other friends of such an addict only need to stay careful not to end up like him. But that shouldn't stop them from helping him out of the trouble. As they were both in it together. He got into the trouble gambling with them, why then will they forget about him when he's got addicted. Even if they are not interested in gambling with the addict anymore, which is a great choice. Neglecting him is a wrong, idea. He's close to them and will easily listen to their advice. That's how to treat an addicted gambler. No error in trial, running from the addict will only make him to get worse in the addiction. And he'd also going to feel it that his friends don't care about him anymore, or maybe wonder about why his friends doesn't want to gamble with him anymore. Stopping to gamble because of him, can only make him to think of why his friends are stopping, but if he's opportune to find other gamblers, he'll definitely forget about his friends, and continue his gambling lifestyle. However, keeping in touch with him is the right choice, than just stopping and moving away from him.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Ultegra134 on February 16, 2024, 07:28:22 PM
Interest in gambling spreads quite quickly in groups of friends. Everyone strives to brag about their successes, to show how successful they are. But no one likes to talk about their expenses. I've seen those who lost a lot but kept it a secret. And let these people earn a lot, but later spending on gambling seriously ruined their lives.
I believe that you should try not to gamble periodically, because periodicity always makes any activity a habit. And unfortunately, there is someone with a weak character in every party.
It depends on who it is; I've even seen people bragging about how much they lost in their last gambling session. Yeah, there are people who're that dumb and feel like it's something to brag about. But you're right; the majority doesn't reveal how much or how frequently they lose but only presents their winnings. Gambling periodically is fine if you're aware of how much you're spending.
I understand - its hard. Seeing a friend spiral is hard, but I believe in balance. When done safely, gambling may be fun. Rather than cutting off something people appreciate, establish lines when necessary. If I can restrict my gambling, excellent, but I must remain watchful. Setting boundaries, especially for vulnerable people, is whats needed, not quitting. Instead of stopping the activity, we should change how we use it in delicate situations.

Helping our friend is vital. Professional help and a supportive environment are essential. Gamble properly without triggering or enabling his compulsive behavior. A delicate balance between personal freedom and collective duty is needed.
It is certainly not the most pleasant thing to see. Moreover, there isn't any standard or designated approach on how to handle something like this because everyone is different and their reactions are too.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: maydna on February 16, 2024, 09:34:49 PM
This habit thing becomes an addiction at some point. If following the actions of friends every day will become a habit then even a conscious person will lose his control and it is not possible to go away even if he wants to then life is directed in a bad direction. It's better to walk away from work if it seems risky to hang out with a friend. You have to change your mindset there is no guarantee that you will always find a friend. If you can control yourself there is less chance of getting addicted to bad habits of friends.
When it becomes a habit, it can also make a person addicted to gambling, and he will forget what he did before he was introduced to gambling. But after getting to know gambling and even starting to gamble too often, it started to change and started to lead to bad things that could have an impact on his life. When one or several friends have started to experience addiction, and you cannot advise them, you should immediately leave them because it is feared that you will become addicted to gambling and will not be able to get out of gambling easily. And yes, we have to change your mindset if you see that your gambling habit is starting to turn into a bad habit, and don't let yourself fall deeper into gambling because it's not worth it.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Onyeeze on February 16, 2024, 09:42:41 PM
Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.
We have limitations here, and we can only tell what is good and what is right, and your addicted friend will still be the one to decide for his/her own benefit. Also you have to set boundaries because your friend might get offended if you tell him to stop gambling, if that friend is still listening to you then better to suggest to seek professional help because you know to yourself that you are not capable to help him, especially on dealing with his emotions psychologically.
When you outlined your point do your friends concerning quitting gambling and your point is a genuine point that will have and the contribute meaningful For his life I believe that it will not have any negative thinking towards you or concerning you because only understand but you mean we'll for him, and Secondly I understand but when you are addicted in gambling theirs nothing someone will tell you concerning gambling that you will pick more interest in gambling, so therefore what I want you to understand is the rudiments of gambling and what makes people to be addicted


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Oilacris on February 16, 2024, 09:43:56 PM
This habit thing becomes an addiction at some point. If following the actions of friends every day will become a habit then even a conscious person will lose his control and it is not possible to go away even if he wants to then life is directed in a bad direction. It's better to walk away from work if it seems risky to hang out with a friend. You have to change your mindset there is no guarantee that you will always find a friend. If you can control yourself there is less chance of getting addicted to bad habits of friends.
When it becomes a habit, it can also make a person addicted to gambling, and he will forget what he did before he was introduced to gambling. But after getting to know gambling and even starting to gamble too often, it started to change and started to lead to bad things that could have an impact on his life. When one or several friends have started to experience addiction, and you cannot advise them, you should immediately leave them because it is feared that you will become addicted to gambling and will not be able to get out of gambling easily. And yes, we have to change your mindset if you see that your gambling habit is starting to turn into a bad habit, and don't let yourself fall deeper into gambling because it's not worth it.
Doing things on repetitive manner or something that you do already do on everyday then this is a solid sign that you are making it as a habit and on the time that habits become that a main
thing into your daily routine plus having those huge spending and putting up focus then this is where we can say that it is really that forming such addiction. Things becomes messy on the time that you would be having those impulsive spending through it and knowing gambling that it could bring out you from riches to homeless then this is something that you should really be careful with.
Quitting gambling just for your friend? It would really be that depending on what kind of type of friend you are.  :D


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Westinhome on February 16, 2024, 09:47:24 PM

True friends will always accompany us through thick and thin because they are sincere to us and vice versa. We have to appreciate our friends who always advise us for our good and we should also be able to do the same as them. At least they try to help us and are always willing to listen to what we complain about. If they can help, they will help us and always accompany us so we don't feel alone in solving the problem. We must also be able to do the same when our friends experience problems so that our friendship will be even closer because that is what true friends are like.

The true friends alone control us in all the situations,the O.P was in the strongest belief of the true friends can control the gambling addicted person.But the gamblers who get addicted will not accept the words of their own parents.So how they manage the words of their parents,they can only manage the gambling addiction after they start to earn the money from the gambling site.Then they can able to recover their loss in the gambling site,the gambling addicted person only get recovered from their mental condition after they recover of the gambling loss.So true friends can help the gamblers when they need of money at the time of gambling loss.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: KTChampions on February 16, 2024, 09:53:15 PM
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Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.

If this is a real friend and not a colleague at parties, then why not? I’m not ready to leave a friend because of some problem (which may be completely solvable), and by the way, you didn’t tell in the story, but I can assume that those friends were connected not only by playing poker, right?
It is clear that if my friend has problems with alcohol, then I will not drink when he is with me. This seems logical to me. Same with gambling. It’s clear that he must somehow solve his problems, but I don’t think it would be a big deal for me to help him a little with this.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Docnaster on February 16, 2024, 09:53:34 PM
Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.
We have limitations here, and we can only tell what is good and what is right, and your addicted friend will still be the one to decide for his/her own benefit. Also you have to set boundaries because your friend might get offended if you tell him to stop gambling, if that friend is still listening to you then better to suggest to seek professional help because you know to yourself that you are not capable to help him, especially on dealing with his emotions psychologically.
When you outlined your point do your friends concerning quitting gambling and your point is a genuine point that will have and the contribute meaningful For his life I believe that it will not have any negative thinking towards you or concerning you because only understand but you mean we'll for him, and Secondly I understand but when you are addicted in gambling theirs nothing someone will tell you concerning gambling that you will pick more interest in gambling, so therefore what I want you to understand is the rudiments of gambling and what makes people to be addicted
I've read different suggestions from you guys concerning the possibility of quiting gambling because of a friend and I will give my honest opinion on this matter. If quiting gambling is the only two help my friend who's probably addicted to gambling or will get addicted to gambling if I don't stop gambling then I'm definitely gonna quit because before I consider someone my friend, I already see that person as someone I can do anything within my strength to protect.
However, I can still be engaging in online gambling whenever I'm out of his sight but definitely not do anything that's gambling related when he's anywhere close to me because I want him to succeed in life


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Weawant on February 16, 2024, 10:23:47 PM
We have limitations here, and we can only tell what is good and what is right, and your addicted friend will still be the one to decide for his/her own benefit. Also you have to set boundaries because your friend might get offended if you tell him to stop gambling, if that friend is still listening to you then better to suggest to seek professional help because you know to yourself that you are not capable to help him, especially on dealing with his emotions psychologically.
Whenever situations with gambling addictions get to this point nits most productive when the service of a professional is involved because only that way can such person get help quick enough to be able to quit if they really want to quit because some persons only attempt quitting and then go on to still continue with their gambling habits.

If you are trying to help your friend by yourself you my likely not succeed in helping him or her out for their addiction and then even with the service of a professional they will still need to first agree to wanting to quit, that way what ever Is required of them to do so they can quit they will do but when they are not fully convinced to quit then they will most definitely continue to find away around their addiction and still continue in it despite every effort to helping them quit .


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Sanugarid on February 16, 2024, 10:45:10 PM
A true friend is only there by our side when he knows he needs to remind you if he sees that things are not going well with us. And that thing is to give and make us feel truly blessed.

A friend cannot dictate to a friend who is also close to him, but only to feel true concern for a friend who is considered a friend. So we still have the final decision to make if we follow the advice of a friend of ours.

It's true, apart from your family, no one will sympathize with you but your friends. Your friend will wake you up to the truth, he is the only one who will tell you what you really feel and what is happening to you, your friend is also the only one who will tell you that what you are doing is bad. So if you have a friend like this, he's just concerned about you, don't hurt him because it's like he's treating you like a brother. It's good to have a friend like this. Don't leave or avoid this kind of friend because they are the only ones who really care about you.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Casdinyard on February 16, 2024, 11:06:35 PM
Personally, ife quitting guarantees that the friend will effectively drop his gambling addiction and push for rehabilitation and recovery then I’m all for it. Just puzzled over the idea of how me quitting could help the addicted friend to recover from gambling addiction when at this point he needs less of a support and more of real assistance from professionals in this field. That means him getting the treatment he needs and deserves is even more important than the moral support that us quitting would contribute into his situation. If anything I feel like our quitting to the gambling schedules that we do on a weekly basis (based on your story) is less of a help to your friend who’s addicted to gambling and more of a way to fool ourselves into thinking that we’re absolved of the guilt of letting in our friend into the gambling world.

So yeah, I can see the plan’s success in theory but rarely do we have friends that are ideal as what we envision in our studies so to account for the margin of reality.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: mammusu on February 16, 2024, 11:12:06 PM
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Doing things on repetitive manner or something that you do already do on everyday then this is a solid sign that you are making it as a habit and on the time that habits become that a main
thing into your daily routine plus having those huge spending and putting up focus then this is where we can say that it is really that forming such addiction. Things becomes messy on the time that you would be having those impulsive spending through it and knowing gambling that it could bring out you from riches to homeless then this is something that you should really be careful with.
Quitting gambling just for your friend? It would really be that depending on what kind of type of friend you are.  :D
Those are some important points about habits, addiction, and the role of friends in addressing gambling issues. Indeed, habits can easily become ingrained in our daily routines, and when those habits involve excessive spending and a focus on activities like gambling, it can escalate into addiction. Impulsive spending, especially in the context of gambling where the outcomes can be financially devastating, is a red flag that requires careful consideration.

The idea of quitting gambling for the sake of a friend is actually a good situation to have more motive quiting gambling, because gambling would be less joy when the one you share joy in gambling is not there anymore. True friends often look out for each other's well-being and may offer support and encouragement to address harmful behaviors like gambling addiction. It needs to be mindful of the impact of gambling on life.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: alastantiger on February 16, 2024, 11:48:07 PM
So I heard a story of some acquaintances that in their friend group, some person really got addicted recently.
Gambling addiction doesn't just occur suddenly and recently. It happens over a period of time - days, months, years, decades. It process is just like a butterfly metamorphosing.
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This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.
The best way to get their friend help is not for them to quit gambling because they would not be doing it of their freewill and they going to regret it later. Rather going with their friend to a gamblers meeting. Getting them the professional help that they need and funding it as best as they can.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 17, 2024, 10:57:07 AM
The true friends alone control us in all the situations,the O.P was in the strongest belief of the true friends can control the gambling addicted person.But the gamblers who get addicted will not accept the words of their own parents.So how they manage the words of their parents,they can only manage the gambling addiction after they start to earn the money from the gambling site.Then they can able to recover their loss in the gambling site,the gambling addicted person only get recovered from their mental condition after they recover of the gambling loss.So true friends can help the gamblers when they need of money at the time of gambling loss.
A true friend will help friends who have problems and if a friend has a gambling addiction, a true friend will come to his aid and try to help cure his gambling addiction even though it is difficult. A true friend will not leave his friend alone to experience gambling addiction because those who are addicted to gambling really need friends to share it with. Maybe there should be other help apart from real friends to help cure his gambling addiction so that the addict knows that he is not alone in struggling to cure his gambling addiction. But it all depends on the gambling addict to be able to open himself to the presence of other people who want to help him cure his gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Blitzboy on February 17, 2024, 04:56:40 PM
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Doing things on repetitive manner or something that you do already do on everyday then this is a solid sign that you are making it as a habit and on the time that habits become that a main
thing into your daily routine plus having those huge spending and putting up focus then this is where we can say that it is really that forming such addiction. Things becomes messy on the time that you would be having those impulsive spending through it and knowing gambling that it could bring out you from riches to homeless then this is something that you should really be careful with.
Quitting gambling just for your friend? It would really be that depending on what kind of type of friend you are.  :D
Those are some important points about habits, addiction, and the role of friends in addressing gambling issues. Indeed, habits can easily become ingrained in our daily routines, and when those habits involve excessive spending and a focus on activities like gambling, it can escalate into addiction. Impulsive spending, especially in the context of gambling where the outcomes can be financially devastating, is a red flag that requires careful consideration.

The idea of quitting gambling for the sake of a friend is actually a good situation to have more motive quiting gambling, because gambling would be less joy when the one you share joy in gambling is not there anymore. True friends often look out for each other's well-being and may offer support and encouragement to address harmful behaviors like gambling addiction. It needs to be mindful of the impact of gambling on life.
I understand your behaviors and addiction perspective. You can get into a routine where gambling is just part of the day. However, your warning about impulsive spending touched home. It a wake-up call that things are falling apart.

What about quitting gambling because a friend does? Yes, solid. It shows how much we affect each other. Though rare, these friendships are vital. They reflect our behaviors and show the truth we neglect. Without a friend to share the excitement, quitting gambling may be the push needed to reassess priorities. True friendship is about wanting the best for one other, not just gambling highs.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: qwertyup23 on February 17, 2024, 05:24:58 PM
We have limitations here, and we can only tell what is good and what is right, and your addicted friend will still be the one to decide for his/her own benefit. Also you have to set boundaries because your friend might get offended if you tell him to stop gambling, if that friend is still listening to you then better to suggest to seek professional help because you know to yourself that you are not capable to help him, especially on dealing with his emotions psychologically.
Whenever situations with gambling addictions get to this point nits most productive when the service of a professional is involved because only that way can such person get help quick enough to be able to quit if they really want to quit because some persons only attempt quitting and then go on to still continue with their gambling habits.

If you are trying to help your friend by yourself you my likely not succeed in helping him or her out for their addiction and then even with the service of a professional they will still need to first agree to wanting to quit, that way what ever Is required of them to do so they can quit they will do but when they are not fully convinced to quit then they will most definitely continue to find away around their addiction and still continue in it despite every effort to helping them quit .

The best thing that you can do in this situation is always to keep your doors open whenever your friend needs it.

As someone who has personally experienced gambling addiction, it will take more than professional help for the addicted person to get help. The most essential and crucial step towards recovery is when they admit to themselves that they are addicted and they decide to change for the better. Without these two (2) factors, professional help may be inefficient as they are most likely to experience recurrence from their habits.

Always keep your doors open when your friend reaches out to you. If they decide to change and to commit in quitting, give your 101% support. Sometimes, these friends already know what to do but they just lack the courage to initiate it. Show them that commitment that you also want to help them and they will definitely be one step closer to recovery.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: slapper on February 17, 2024, 05:28:11 PM
The true friends alone control us in all the situations,the O.P was in the strongest belief of the true friends can control the gambling addicted person.But the gamblers who get addicted will not accept the words of their own parents.So how they manage the words of their parents,they can only manage the gambling addiction after they start to earn the money from the gambling site.Then they can able to recover their loss in the gambling site,the gambling addicted person only get recovered from their mental condition after they recover of the gambling loss.So true friends can help the gamblers when they need of money at the time of gambling loss.
A true friend will help friends who have problems and if a friend has a gambling addiction, a true friend will come to his aid and try to help cure his gambling addiction even though it is difficult. A true friend will not leave his friend alone to experience gambling addiction because those who are addicted to gambling really need friends to share it with. Maybe there should be other help apart from real friends to help cure his gambling addiction so that the addict knows that he is not alone in struggling to cure his gambling addiction. But it all depends on the gambling addict to be able to open himself to the presence of other people who want to help him cure his gambling addiction.
Being present isn't enough; action is. When a friend is struggling, you don't just listen. Your hands get soiled. Intervention? Yes. Assistance for professionals? Double yes. It's about directing them to resources that matter, not babysitting them. Surprise: They're not the only ones who must open up. We must make them feel safe. Trust, accountability, and occasional tough love. Yes, they must recover, but our involvement is important. We're reality checkers and supporters, not simply spectators


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Accardo on February 17, 2024, 05:37:40 PM
We have limitations here, and we can only tell what is good and what is right, and your addicted friend will still be the one to decide for his/her own benefit. Also you have to set boundaries because your friend might get offended if you tell him to stop gambling, if that friend is still listening to you then better to suggest to seek professional help because you know to yourself that you are not capable to help him, especially on dealing with his emotions psychologically.
Whenever situations with gambling addictions get to this point nits most productive when the service of a professional is involved because only that way can such person get help quick enough to be able to quit if they really want to quit because some persons only attempt quitting and then go on to still continue with their gambling habits.

If you are trying to help your friend by yourself you my likely not succeed in helping him or her out for their addiction and then even with the service of a professional they will still need to first agree to wanting to quit, that way what ever Is required of them to do so they can quit they will do but when they are not fully convinced to quit then they will most definitely continue to find away around their addiction and still continue in it despite every effort to helping them quit .
Whoever is or will take or handle the healing of the addict's problem, still need to apply some patience and kindness. The healing as usual takes lots of time. However, if he tries to help his friend without the assistance of a therapist. He could be getting the whole process so wrong. Due to the fact that the professionals have some simple ways, known by few people, of recovering the thoughts and brains of the addicted person. A friend can get aggressive, in as much as being angry of his addicted friend not responding or listening to their advice. These people detest advice like a plague. What they are doing is right, in their jurisdiction. Hence, it's not meant to be the complete duty of the addict's friend to heal him, they'll also need help from a therapist. What is most important is that the addict doesn't get neglected or being left behind.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: redsun114 on February 17, 2024, 07:23:31 PM
Friendship is about give and take, so it depends on what sort of friend he is to me and how long we have been friends for. If it's a casual friend who hasn't done anything special for me or we don't have a very strong bond, I would rather ask them to seek help instead of disturbing the activities that I enjoy and have no issues with, but if it's a close and dear friend who has been with me for many years and we share a strong bond, I can easily give the sacrifice for him if it helps him get away from the addiction.

Closing down the gambling activities when he is around wouldn't be a complete solution, in my opinion, because when he is alone and isn't around us anymore, he can still gamble since there is no one to stop him from doing that. So it's better if the friends help the guy instead of just not gambling in front of him.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: shasan on February 17, 2024, 11:49:47 PM
Whenever situations with gambling addictions get to this point nits most productive when the service of a professional is involved because only that way can such person get help quick enough to be able to quit if they really want to quit because some persons only attempt quitting and then go on to still continue with their gambling habits.

If you are trying to help your friend by yourself you my likely not succeed in helping him or her out for their addiction and then even with the service of a professional they will still need to first agree to wanting to quit, that way what ever Is required of them to do so they can quit they will do but when they are not fully convinced to quit then they will most definitely continue to find away around their addiction and still continue in it despite every effort to helping them quit .
Those who are gambling tried to stop gambling a lot of time and all of the time they became successful for a little time. After a short period of time they start again upon the fund collection.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Westinhome on February 17, 2024, 11:56:55 PM
Friendship is about give and take, so it depends on what sort of friend he is to me and how long we have been friends for. If it's a casual friend who hasn't done anything special for me or we don't have a very strong bond, I would rather ask them to seek help instead of disturbing the activities that I enjoy and have no issues with, but if it's a close and dear friend who has been with me for many years and we share a strong bond, I can easily give the sacrifice for him if it helps him get away from the addiction.

Closing down the gambling activities when he is around wouldn't be a complete solution, in my opinion, because when he is alone and isn't around us anymore, he can still gamble since there is no one to stop him from doing that. So it's better if the friends help the guy instead of just not gambling in front of him.

Some people trust the friendship,but some friends doesn’t help you when you get into big risk.The reason behind the friendship was only for their benefit to them,they use you for all their money needs.If you say your friends,only the true friends get happy for you.But many friends get unhappy and try to get the loan from you.Because they come to know about your winning money.Being a gambler,I will accept the words of friend like I had mentioned.If the true friends ask me quit,surely I do that at the addictions time.Because we know to whom we need to give importance.Most of the gambling addicted people get away from gambling by the words of their own mother.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Hirose UK on February 18, 2024, 02:38:15 AM
So I heard a story of some acquaintances that in their friend group, some person really got addicted recently.
Gambling addiction doesn't just occur suddenly and recently. It happens over a period of time - days, months, years, decades. It process is just like a butterfly metamorphosing.
True, but it happens for sure and of course no one will ever be able to realize that he has entered condition or initial phase of gambling addiction.
They indirectly increase their gambling intensity and over time it becomes habit that cannot be abandoned or stopped.
They will realize when they have experienced destruction or experienced various serious problems, but this awareness is too late because everything has already happened.

This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.
The best way to get their friend help is not for them to quit gambling because they would not be doing it of their freewill and they going to regret it later. Rather going with their friend to a gamblers meeting. Getting them the professional help that they need and funding it as best as they can.
Everything will depend on how react to it, if that the best then just do it and if not immediately stop and do what best.
Only each individual can feel the impact of each decision, so the good and bad of each activity also depends on how person has mindset in making decisions.
This is not about professional help but how he moves forward towards much better direction for the future.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Quidat on February 18, 2024, 02:43:11 AM
Friendship is about give and take, so it depends on what sort of friend he is to me and how long we have been friends for. If it's a casual friend who hasn't done anything special for me or we don't have a very strong bond, I would rather ask them to seek help instead of disturbing the activities that I enjoy and have no issues with, but if it's a close and dear friend who has been with me for many years and we share a strong bond, I can easily give the sacrifice for him if it helps him get away from the addiction.

Closing down the gambling activities when he is around wouldn't be a complete solution, in my opinion, because when he is alone and isn't around us anymore, he can still gamble since there is no one to stop him from doing that. So it's better if the friends help the guy instead of just not gambling in front of him.

Some people trust the friendship,but some friends doesn’t help you when you get into big risk.The reason behind the friendship was only for their benefit to them,they use you for all their money needs.If you say your friends,only the true friends get happy for you.But many friends get unhappy and try to get the loan from you.Because they come to know about your winning money.Being a gambler,I will accept the words of friend like I had mentioned.If the true friends ask me quit,surely I do that at the addictions time.Because we know to whom we need to give importance.Most of the gambling addicted people get away from gambling by the words of their own mother.
There are really indeed 2 types of friends on which to those friends who are really just that present on the time that you do have money or on a good situation and into those friends that do ran away or doesnt really care about someone on the time that you are on such big trouble or problem on which it do really sucks on having a friend just like that but well you would really be able to prove out on whose those true friends and who are the ones who are really just that good on the time that you are doing good. When it comes on doing gambling then it isnt really that much of an issue or something that will really be that a problem if you are really just that responsible on what you are doing.If you are someone whose really that mindful and careful then there would be no problems
and as a friend who had someone a friend falls into addiction then suggestion and advises should really be given out.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 18, 2024, 07:24:10 AM
Being present isn't enough; action is. When a friend is struggling, you don't just listen. Your hands get soiled. Intervention? Yes. Assistance for professionals? Double yes. It's about directing them to resources that matter, not babysitting them. Surprise: They're not the only ones who must open up. We must make them feel safe. Trust, accountability, and occasional tough love. Yes, they must recover, but our involvement is important. We're reality checkers and supporters, not simply spectators
The presence and help of friends in trouble is very necessary because it can make them feel that they are not alone in solving their problems. They will be able to rise from their downturn because there is support from other friends who can continue to accompany them and are always there to help them solve their problems. Taking them to a professional must be done so that they can get direction from a professional and know what they have to do. With all the support they get from their family and friends, they can be enthusiastic again and solve their problems well so they can have a normal life again. Even though he needs time to heal himself, it won't be felt because they are accompanied by people who care about them.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Baki202 on February 18, 2024, 07:51:30 AM
Friendship is about give and take, so it depends on what sort of friend he is to me and how long we have been friends for. If it's a casual friend who hasn't done anything special for me or we don't have a very strong bond, I would rather ask them to seek help instead of disturbing the activities that I enjoy and have no issues with, but if it's a close and dear friend who has been with me for many years and we share a strong bond, I can easily give the sacrifice for him if it helps him get away from the addiction.

Closing down the gambling activities when he is around wouldn't be a complete solution, in my opinion, because when he is alone and isn't around us anymore, he can still gamble since there is no one to stop him from doing that. So it's better if the friends help the guy instead of just not gambling in front of him.
I know the importance of friendship, but even as close as I am to my friends, they don't know my gambling condition, and I have a reason for that. They won't even bother me that much because I always gamble when I am home, and some of the things I have acquired are through gambling, so there are pieces of evidence that show that I am doing well in gambling, even though there is a record of gambling. Due to work, we hardly see each other, so they don't even know what I do or not. And what if I gamble? What is my friend's business with my gambling condition? Since I don't ask them for money, I tell them to stay off such topics, and I will be offended if they are repeated. If something I enjoy and make money from is repeated and you ask me to stop it, it won't work. In my view, you cannot stop people from doing what they love, and the way things are should be left the way they are.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: CODE200 on February 18, 2024, 07:57:17 AM
Not really, why would I choose to quit something that I'm in complete control of for the sake of a friend? If this friend is a close one and they're on a deathbed and they wish for me to quit gambling, I might do so for their memory and promise but if they're a friend that's not that close then it's not really a good idea to do so because you're going to end up being a dog to them, doing whatever they tell you to do, that doesn't sit right with me and I think that the only time that a valid reason that a person can do this to someone is when they're really concerned that the person is addicted and this can be a way for them to make that person consider quitting to cure the addiction.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: lizarder on February 18, 2024, 08:04:03 AM
Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least. 
I have never seen directly anyone who wants to stop gambling because of a friend, although maybe something like that has happened out there, but I have never seen it directly. I once saw a friend stop gambling because of his wife and children because of the demands placed on them so he decided to stop even though at first it seemed so difficult because of the addiction. Friends and family show greater encouragement to stop gambling because perhaps they understand our condition better.

Unfortunately not everyone can be aware of the encouragement of those closest to them and there are even people who have to separate from their families because of their gambling addiction. For me, it doesn't matter if someone is involved in gambling as long as they can handle the gambling responsibly, both regarding the finances they use to gamble and the specific time they spend playing.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 18, 2024, 07:30:57 PM
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Well, it happens that friends are one thing and family is another, it is obvious that your friend stopped playing for his family, his family is much more valuable than a game in a casino, and whoever puts the game above them Well, I think he is crazy, or something is missing in his mind, because that is something that should not even be thought about, I could think that when a person starts to see that it is the most imprint they can make in their life according to the game and to other actions, well you have to be very clear about what you want, because if you are a person who does not think about the day to day and live as everything happens without thinking about your future or the things you can do, well I think that is an empty person, but when there are many things like friendship, love for your family, that already weighs a lot, it is something that cannot be done without regret, but since the issue is for your friend, what is the right thing to do is sacrifice ?

I think that something difficult not to want to do is like stopping eating, or stopping doing a basic activity, but if I see that my abstention can help a person, why not do it? and play in the casino just when that friend is not online or do it differently in a physical casino or something, but if you have to have a little patience, addiction is a very serious problem, it is something that I don't know how to classify I think I would have to say that it is one of the most difficult things a human being can suffer.

So I start from something, we shouldn't be selfish people, if a friend needs us, what's the point of stopping playing for a while? I believe that divine blessings come after a very good action, and what it feels like when you do something good for someone is a great feeling, I believe that that is what we should always consider, and thus be able to have better things so that they can be happier the people.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: lizarder on February 19, 2024, 10:25:21 AM
I think that something difficult not to want to do is like stopping eating, or stopping doing a basic activity, but if I see that my abstention can help a person, why not do it? and play in the casino just when that friend is not online or do it differently in a physical casino or something, but if you have to have a little patience, addiction is a very serious problem, it is something that I don't know how to classify I think I would have to say that it is one of the most difficult things a human being can suffer.

So I start from something, we shouldn't be selfish people, if a friend needs us, what's the point of stopping playing for a while? I believe that divine blessings come after a very good action, and what it feels like when you do something good for someone is a great feeling, I believe that that is what we should always consider, and thus be able to have better things so that they can be happier the people.
If you can do it it will be much better because you can help one person, but making active gamblers aware is not easy because they need greater attention and it will be much easier for their closest family to do it. Even if you are a friend, you can also help heal. Recovering addicted people must be in a special place because there they will be trained psychologically so that they no longer have hallucinations of getting money from gambling. Without involving smart people regarding psychology, it will be very difficult to cure them because training the awareness of active gamblers is not easy because they have high hallucinations about games to make money.

If someone is in need and you are able to do it, there is no problem helping a friend who is addicted to gambling and I am not saying that you cannot help cure a friend. But rather the priority of the person who is more important in curing them is their immediate family. If we are talking about decisions, it might be a little more difficult because hoping for approval is a noble act and it is very difficult to make the discussion wider.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Accardo on February 19, 2024, 11:13:14 AM
Not really, why would I choose to quit something that I'm in complete control of for the sake of a friend? If this friend is a close one and they're on a deathbed and they wish for me to quit gambling, I might do so for their memory and promise but if they're a friend that's not that close then it's not really a good idea to do so because you're going to end up being a dog to them, doing whatever they tell you to do, that doesn't sit right with me and I think that the only time that a valid reason that a person can do this to someone is when they're really concerned that the person is addicted and this can be a way for them to make that person consider quitting to cure the addiction.

It's fine not to be loyal to anybody on earth, but sometimes the health of people we care for can be a reason why we should respect them and listen to their request. However, in the context of the story, it looks like a voluntary request from the friends of the gambler, whether they should stop for the sake of the addict. He never asked them to do so, they think that stopping could make him have a rethink, since he wouldn't find anyone to gamble with, as they're his gambling mates. Those things if it will work can be a memorable thing to do for a friend's safety, Healthwise. If not for anything else, the addict's friends need to be careful not to get addicted too, stopping could be a way for them not to end up like their friend who is addicted. Although, the addict still has multiple ways of gambling, outside his gambling mates, I think what his friends can do is help take him to a therapy.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 20, 2024, 09:17:12 PM
I think that something difficult not to want to do is like stopping eating, or stopping doing a basic activity, but if I see that my abstention can help a person, why not do it? and play in the casino just when that friend is not online or do it differently in a physical casino or something, but if you have to have a little patience, addiction is a very serious problem, it is something that I don't know how to classify I think I would have to say that it is one of the most difficult things a human being can suffer.

So I start from something, we shouldn't be selfish people, if a friend needs us, what's the point of stopping playing for a while? I believe that divine blessings come after a very good action, and what it feels like when you do something good for someone is a great feeling, I believe that that is what we should always consider, and thus be able to have better things so that they can be happier the people.
If you can do it it will be much better because you can help one person, but making active gamblers aware is not easy because they need greater attention and it will be much easier for their closest family to do it. Even if you are a friend, you can also help heal. Recovering addicted people must be in a special place because there they will be trained psychologically so that they no longer have hallucinations of getting money from gambling. Without involving smart people regarding psychology, it will be very difficult to cure them because training the awareness of active gamblers is not easy because they have high hallucinations about games to make money.

If someone is in need and you are able to do it, there is no problem helping a friend who is addicted to gambling and I am not saying that you cannot help cure a friend. But rather the priority of the person who is more important in curing them is their immediate family. If we are talking about decisions, it might be a little more difficult because hoping for approval is a noble act and it is very difficult to make the discussion wider.

Yes, Basically things can be seen like this because when it is a special case of a friend , I Would not Hesitate to do it and not only because it is a noble Act, I think that before doing any of the same things, we can take away our titles, Acknowledge them , Whatever we are, and what remains? a human being, that is what we should see above all , I have been seeing a lot of Children  , not only about gambling, but almost everything in general except the technical part, but I have seen that there are many users who do not have much Humanity, they don't mind going over whatever it is just to come out, I Really don't know how they feel about that? I would like to know, but I still believe that we are human , and we do not know if one of those acts can later save us. to one of our children, or even to one of our Relatives , I believe that every good act brings good things, and there are many things that can be Considered good , and if we are good friend s, it Would be Great to be Able to help them.

I hope that one day I can have a way to help many patients with their treatments and even more so if they are good, I think that one has to focus on that, but the mere fact of seeing things in the casino, I think that doing something For 1, only for 1 can you raise awareness among other people, so if a person needs something like that, then let's stop playing for a while, I think it's worth doing something like that for someone so that they don't fall into how terrible addiction is. Honestly, I would like to help people with this condition with words and advice right now. I know there are many cases, that's why you have to have some tact Many want advice anonymously I think these Debates can help a lot.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: arimamib on February 20, 2024, 10:02:34 PM
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It's fine not to be loyal to anybody on earth, but sometimes the health of people we care for can be a reason why we should respect them and listen to their request. However, in the context of the story, it looks like a voluntary request from the friends of the gambler, whether they should stop for the sake of the addict. He never asked them to do so, they think that stopping could make him have a rethink, since he wouldn't find anyone to gamble with, as they're his gambling mates. Those things if it will work can be a memorable thing to do for a friend's safety, Healthwise. If not for anything else, the addict's friends need to be careful not to get addicted too, stopping could be a way for them not to end up like their friend who is addicted. Although, the addict still has multiple ways of gambling, outside his gambling mates, I think what his friends can do is help take him to a therapy.
That is the complex dynamics of loyalty, care, and responsibility within a group of friends. It's indeed a delicate balance between respecting someone's autonomy and intervening for him, because it involves addictive behaviors. The friends' voluntary decision to stop gambling with the addict out of concern for his health reflects a form of care and responsibility within the friendship circle.

They not only protect themselves but also demonstrate solidarity and support for their friend's journey towards recovery by stopping their own gambling habits. By taking proactive steps to address their own behaviors and seek therapy for their friend, these actions demonstrate a deep level of care and empathy. Solidarity among friends can be a powerful force for positive change. When individuals come together to support each other's well-being, it not only strengthens their bonds but also creates a supportive environment conducive to recovery and growth. Seeking therapy for the addict and the friends' proactive steps towards addressing the addiction reflect a thoughtful and compassionate approach to navigating such challenging situations within friendships.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: carlfebz2 on February 20, 2024, 10:23:54 PM
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It's fine not to be loyal to anybody on earth, but sometimes the health of people we care for can be a reason why we should respect them and listen to their request. However, in the context of the story, it looks like a voluntary request from the friends of the gambler, whether they should stop for the sake of the addict. He never asked them to do so, they think that stopping could make him have a rethink, since he wouldn't find anyone to gamble with, as they're his gambling mates. Those things if it will work can be a memorable thing to do for a friend's safety, Healthwise. If not for anything else, the addict's friends need to be careful not to get addicted too, stopping could be a way for them not to end up like their friend who is addicted. Although, the addict still has multiple ways of gambling, outside his gambling mates, I think what his friends can do is help take him to a therapy.
That is the complex dynamics of loyalty, care, and responsibility within a group of friends. It's indeed a delicate balance between respecting someone's autonomy and intervening for him, because it involves addictive behaviors. The friends' voluntary decision to stop gambling with the addict out of concern for his health reflects a form of care and responsibility within the friendship circle.

They not only protect themselves but also demonstrate solidarity and support for their friend's journey towards recovery by stopping their own gambling habits. By taking proactive steps to address their own behaviors and seek therapy for their friend, these actions demonstrate a deep level of care and empathy. Solidarity among friends can be a powerful force for positive change. When individuals come together to support each other's well-being, it not only strengthens their bonds but also creates a supportive environment conducive to recovery and growth. Seeking therapy for the addict and the friends' proactive steps towards addressing the addiction reflect a thoughtful and compassionate approach to navigating such challenging situations within friendships.
But not all would really be having that sense of care and responsibility from time to time in speaking with our friends,but pretty sure that there would be but its a rare situation because in most cases they would really be that leaving you hanging on the air on the time that you would really be experiencing those problems or issues on which this is something very normal. Even myself cant really be sure that i would be having those sympathy on the sense that you would be quitting something just because your friend is addicted already. Yes, i could give out some advises but its not something that i could be also tend to do
just to show my support or trying out to solve his addiction. Why? It would be pointless on doing so because if he dont have any plans on quitting then no matter what you do, it would really be still pointless.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: boyptc on February 20, 2024, 11:20:39 PM
I am an independent person and I wouldn't let my friends meddle with my decision. If that friend of mine needs some help, I'll tell him to just quit and don't get into trouble by gambling ever again.

But that won't make me quit for him.

We should be accountable for every action that we do as we're all grown ups.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: kotajikikox on February 21, 2024, 07:59:40 AM
If I am going to quit then this is not for anyone but my family , A friend is not enough for me to chance anything even how bad it is because if there are someone that can be credited then they are my love person , like my wife and daughter and my mother and father and siblings.
the life of each gamblers specially those who are engaging literally has a hard time quitting because this becomes not only a habit but also their lifestyles.

So the answer is NO, but for my family it is a YES>.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: Insanity on February 21, 2024, 08:36:50 AM
Yeah that's true, true friends will really criticize you especially when they see what you are doing wrong and when we have a friend like that, let's appreciate it because that kind of person is rare nowadays. Sometimes there is nothing wrong if we listen to them because it is also for our good.
True friends will always accompany us through thick and thin because they are sincere to us and vice versa. We have to appreciate our friends who always advise us for our good and we should also be able to do the same as them. At least they try to help us and are always willing to listen to what we complain about. If they can help, they will help us and always accompany us so we don't feel alone in solving the problem. We must also be able to do the same when our friends experience problems so that our friendship will be even closer because that is what true friends are like.
A true friend will never leave in times of danger. Friendship is a relationship that is not destined for everyone. But my friends have cheated me almost constantly which makes the word friendship very difficult for me. I used to consider my friends as friends but they did wrong things to me.  Because of that I don't have a relationship with them anymore. I had a couple of friends who lost their relationship because of gambling.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: rahmad2nd on February 21, 2024, 09:51:24 AM
Referring to the title of this thread, I think the contents of what you describe in this post are too exaggerated. the question is, will if we stop gambling for someone else's sake, our friends will also stop their addiction. I don't think so at all, because one of the characters in this story is in the stage of a gambling addiction. referring to several points you said, especially someone who is the theme in this thread's story, he tried to ask his friends to join in playing on his slot account. fortunately, this person was well aware not to cause any trouble to his friends.

Well, let's just pretend that we are the people in this story. Basically, it is very clear that my friend is having a problem with excessive gambling activities. If the situation is like this, there's not much I can do apart from stopping the meeting to play gambling together. then, try to talk to him persuasively. reminded him that he had gone too far and lost control in his gambling case. In essence, providing a broad understanding of gambling. plus, the importance of responsibility. however, in order to be a good example, we must also be seen to provide a consistent example according to what we suggest. If this does not have an impact on him, there is little choice but to involve his family in order to persuade him and take him to a rehabilitation center.

Referring to your thread title "Would you quit gambling for a friend?", the answer is no. because I have no responsibility for what happened to my friend. overall, this thread gives us an overview and essence of the importance of being responsible. at least, for ourselves. moreover, one that involves gambling.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: 0t3p0t on February 21, 2024, 10:25:36 AM
Would you do the same for a friend?
Nah, I am gonna be honest with that kind of friend of course and tell him frankly about priorities in life. Tolerating such behavior won't give him the best results with his gambling addiction but instead you are just making things even worst. We all know that most people won't take advices from others but if that friend has to listen and do something to minimize his gambling activity then he's worth the help if not, then I don't what is.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: irhact on February 21, 2024, 10:46:13 AM
If not for anything else, the addict's friends need to be careful not to get addicted too, stopping could be a way for them not to end up like their friend who is addicted. Although, the addict still has multiple ways of gambling, outside his gambling mates, I think what his friends can do is help take him to a therapy.

You're correct, any individual that wants to stop his or her gambling addiction should do it the proper way and that's by going to see a professional therapist that'll help them stop been addicted to gambling. I can stop gambling for a friend if my gambling practice is making them uncomfortable, it's just like when I'm being asked by my spouse to stop gambling, I'll have no choice but to listen to her and so it's in the situation of a friend as if I don't stop gambling I might lose that friend.

Quitting gambling will be beneficial to you too as it'll make you have some free time that you'll use for other thing's that can improve your lifestyle. If you were gambling for money, you can find a part time job that'll be paying you steady and you won't have to be depending on gambling to make money and when you were gambling for entertainment, you can look for other ways to get yourself entertained.


Title: Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend?
Post by: alani123 on February 21, 2024, 11:18:42 AM
As this thread is about to reach page 10, I think it's time to lock it and make way for new threads for discussion. I think the question was answered from quite early on and the sentiment was that whatever friends one might have need to take personal responsibility for their faults. At least that was the judgment of most people.

For me, I think showing some compassion and at least not planning gambling events with said friend would be a good idea at least for a prolonged amount of time until it's deemed that he can be close to gambling without triggering his compulsion again. And if most of the friends group agreed that hanging out with said person was more valuable than their poker sessions, it might still be a good idea to reduce the poker sessions and increase hanging out as this would also offer some support to quit gambling.

With that thought, I'm now locking this thread as I believe the discussion has been more than enough for what such a question calls for.  ;)