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 I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

Establishing a gambling platform is a business, so it is normal for these casinos to have an edge over the player.  @OP you could have asked that man which verse in the scripture directly states(word by word) that gambling is Satanic since he is talking about spiritual things and relates it to gambling.

Aside from that when he talked about demons manipulating people, you can ask for proof or screenshots of those demons helping the platform in manipulating people to be addicted to gambling.  CCTV are often used today so if that is true then there should be copy caught by the CCTV where demons are manipulating people into gambling addiction.   If he can't provide any proof then it is just his own imagination and shouldn't be taken seriously, IMO.

Although it may be true that there are some people who have a paradigm or view that there is a connection between gambling and the devil or other beliefs that are not visible to the naked eye. However, in my opinion, this is just an assumption, not a fact, because until now there is no strong enough evidence to support this opinion.

and it is important to consider the real fact that gambling is basically an activity that is based on one's own decisions, factors of luck, understanding, knowledge and skills. The reason why in gambling the house always wins is because of the mathematical rules that underlie it, not because of the intervention of Satan.

In overcoming this problem, I think the person you met on the bus had experienced quite a bitter experience in gambling, so he talked to others about the gambling he had experienced and thought that the bitter experience he had experienced was due to the intervention of Satan. But this all comes back to each individual, because everyone has the freedom to have their own views about gambling.

Well, different people see gambling in different ways and light, and this also depend on their experiences from them their self gambling,  or experience gainered from other people's gambling experiences.
Personally, I understand the Bible (the Holy book) to condemn gambling in one of the chapters and verse in the book of proverbs, I can't remember the particular chapter and verse at the moment, and some men of God do preach against gambling as it appears to be against God's order of wealth generation, but all this boils down to how we take and go about ourselves gambling, how we consider it and how we put money into it.

For a normal gambler who simply gambles as a way to just have fun and pass time, I do not see anything wrong in doing so, as long as one doesn't allow him or herself to become obsessed with it, possibly leading to gambling addiction.
But for those are seriously gambling solely for the purpose of making money, I wouldnt say that gambling is demonic in this regard, but it's important we know that this is often the ticket that lead many to becoming gambling addicts, and this like we all know have destroyed a lot of lives.
So, it's important we search ourselves and find out the real purpose of we gambling, for those gambling for the right purpose, I would say it's good, but for those gambling for the wrong purpose or reasons, it could be dangerous, though not demonic as said by the man.

It is common in my country for people to blame demons for their mistakes, carelessness, foolishness, and mediocrity. When criminals are caught they always blame Satan for pushing them to engage in the crime. If you were oppurtuned to know this man's gambling history you will be surprised that he was a careless gambler who never took any precautions during his gambling days. After he had lost so much, he would generally blame demons.

His claims are false because it has no scientific or even religious backing. This mindset is one of the superstitious beliefs that people blame after they have failed to do their homework. Anybody familiar with gambling will know that the house has more advantages and if you are not comfortable with the area arrangement it will be better to stop gambling than to blame demons.

My opinion is that believing in demons is bullshit, whether it is applied to gambling or in other fields. Those who have superstitions have an archaic mentality, not a modern scientific-rational one. Forget demons and study the mathematics that governs gambling, you will be much better off.

It would help if we knew the country where it happened and the main religion there. It doesn't sound like you are a muslim, where an opinion like that would be more common. On the other hand, I still have the doubt whether he was talking figuratively or he really believed in actual demons manipulating the casinos.

Be that as it may, he may be right to some extent, in a metaphorical sense of course. Like in many other business where big money is involved (insurance, banks,...) the managers of some casinos may be evil, and willing to carry put dubious practices in order to manipulate users for the sake of profit.

now that it is, how many devils does a casino employ to make a gambler addicted? and how much does it pay?  :o

I think the devil meant by this person is our own emotions which are unable to control ourselves when gambling. So in a sense it's not a real devil, it's just a figure of speech that depicts you not being able to control the game, so it's only played by emotions and greed which results in more losses from gambling. As long as you can play wisely, and not be greedy, I think you will have fun with gambling, even if you lose, you will feel satisfied with it.

Some people believe that gambling related to superstitious and manipulated by Satanic but if we don't believe, we can accept it like that rather than debated to that person which is useless. Maybe he lose much of his money in gambling so he said many things about gambling but people who can control themselves in gambling and not lose much money will say that gambling is just a fun activity.
We knows that casino can takes the biggest amount of the money from the lose gamblers so that makes sense that we must limits our money to avoids the lose. We don't wants to lose much money so we don't have to playing gambling with too much money.
If you don't wants to hear about Satanic and not believe with that, you don't have to listen to him and lets he says many things about his experience. You just needs to stick with your rules and limits yourself when playing gambling so there's nothing to worry in gambling.

Well, I know we know where those that person going or what he is up to, as the OP said the man said that he used to be an gambling addict, yes its a good thing that he stopped and consider gambling as satanic, so we can be sure that he is already stopped playing gambling, but to that point that he will believe that gambling is operated by demons and such I think the experience or what he had gone through must be rough and to the point that he will believe in something like that, well in my opinion we all have different stance or opinion to everything and if that person treat gambling as demonic then so be it, but I don't think it is right to approach someone that is stranger and said that, anyway, its up to the gambler on how will he view gambling is or casino is as long as you know yourself that you are not doing anything wrong.

It is normal for casinos to have a higher house edge compared to players, because they are running a business and it is normal for them to have a greater chance of winning compared to players. If he hopes that casinos do not have a house edge, then casinos are charitable institutions that give free money to people. Moreover, if it is football betting, interference from casinos is not significant, we could even say that it does not exist in the big leagues, so bettors should be able to bet more fairly.

Even if that reason is true, will it make you stop gambling?
What makes gamblers addicted and gamble excessively is the gambler's own behavior.
not all gamblers are addicts. This means that someone has succeeded in exercising control over their gambling activities.
What determines our steps is ourselves. If you want to gamble, then do it within your own abilities. If you want to stop then do it on your own.

It was just about the advice of parents who had already become addicts and lost all their money in gambling.
The demon in question doesn't even really show up and manipulate anything, it's just the demon that appears in him when he's too addicted and thinks of nothing but gambling to hit the jackpot.

Whatever he considers demonic in the person's story is scientifically just an impulse in him to continue playing without pause,
without management and without thinking about anything.

In modern times like now, it is not the devil who manipulates, but the system or there is a great programmer behind the system that is built.
People who believe too much in mystical stories or things beyond reason consider demons to be the cause, when only their subconscious mind does all of them.

This man is acting or saying things base on his religious believe. We all know how the two popular religions frowns on the idea of gambling and most religious leaders preach it as a devils work. I don’t see any difference from what that man was doing. He outrightly wanted to find a way to discourage you from it. Also there is this thing I notice once something isn’t religiously allowed then it get assigned to the devil using the victim. Example is the drinking of alcohol.

Once you lose, or it never reaches your expectations, you will always say bad things about the business, especially in gambling.
I think he only had a bad experience in gambling which is why he is making some assumptions about gambling sites being controlled or manipulated by the devil. He became religious, that's cool. But, I don't think he should be using that kind of reasoning just because he lost tons of money with it. (assuming)
First of all, it was his decision to gamble which means he is expecting to get some good money out of a faster way like gambling. It didn't work out for him so he quit and hated the service.
But what if he won? Will he still say those things? Or the perspective will change saying there are angels in gambling platforms because they gave him good money? :D

Gambling is an activity that is not good for those who play excessively and without control which can harm themselves, and if it involves the devil, I think it makes sense. However, this does not mean that casinos use demons to ensnare many people in gambling. Satan is a creature created by God to tempt humans away from the guidance of truth and also to harm themselves.
Gambling can cause addiction because gambling is excessive and after being involved in human emotions, and when emotions come then Satan will tempt him which makes the gambler uncontrolled which makes his life ruined. And besides that, Satan can also keep gamblers away from doing good and also make us far from God, and I think many gamblers are like this. However, this does not mean that casinos use demons, but rather that demons can easily tempt gamblers into ruin or addiction.

sorry if I'm wrong, but logically it makes sense.

When I read the title, I thought you will say superstitions makes you able to win more, but I'm wrong.

The guy who said demons make you lose and become an addict is really misleading, it's not caused by demons, but he didn't understand with house edge and manipulated match. If someone didn't gamble too much and not looking for money, they won't become gambling addicts, but they only lose their money due to house edge.

Likely that he lost that much and became addicted to gambling but I'm happy to see him discourage other people in becoming addicted if that's what he's trying to advocate. But as we all know, we're all the captain of our boats and we can do whatever we can. If that's the belief that he's got, a religious or superstitious belief, I'll let it be on him. I wouldn't try to laugh or make fun of that person but will politely say if that's what he's believing on, I respect.
It's simple as that but we cannot please everyone as how he's pleasing himself through advocating and discouraging others to stop gambling. There's probably a bigger reason for that and that's why there's always the other side of the story. You can believe what you want to believe and so as the others. But respecting personal space and boundaries on a public area like in a bus, I'd do that.
And if someone keeps on doing so, I'll just give that space of mine to him and will look elsewhere where it's completely free and no one is going to bother me when I am commuting to here and there. Sometimes, there are people that don't respect personal space.

Demons?
ok good, I stopped reading everything else seriously...
we can say everything about gambling and platforms but comments based on magic are quite bizarre.
avoid talking to strangers but in general show what you are viewing.
imagine it's a criminal who notices you have a lot of funds in an online account, or you catch someone who is ready to "punish physically anyone who plays gambling..." ::)

That's their belief since what they think about gambling is a sin. So to avoid getting to much discussion and have heated argument with other people you better listen to them then stop doing that activity while they are around. For sure he continue to disturb you if that guy see that you continue despite of warnings he discussed. That's why I hate to gamble on public places since we can't avoid to experience this scenario since there are some people doesn't  respect our decisions in life. If I encounter this situation I will simply tap the guy and say thank you with the warnings or opinion said so that he will be happy that I acknowledge his message so there will be no problem will occur.

I can't stop laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

It is not demonic, but it looks like demonic to many people because they are not winning, if this same man starts winning he won't say that it is demonic, although it is true that the bible forbids gambling but it is not because of the demonic part, the bible advise against gambling because of the negative impact it has on humans, gambling can kill the spirit of will and hope left in human.

To me, gambling is simple math and psychology, a casino is betting on luck, 😃 it is something that doesn't happen every time, right? It is obvious that any casino will always have the upper hand, in a man's life he can get lucky only very few times in months or even in a year, and to many men, gambling is something you need to do every day.

You will surely lose more money and that is why casinos pocket gets fatter, it is common sense, this is one of the reasons why I don't gamble every day, I only gamble twice in a week and I use small amounts of money you can't control your luck, it comes when you won't be expecting it, spending less time with gambling is a good gambling strategy.

Well, every individual have their opinions about certain things and if i were the OP I won't even give such person a chance to interact with me cause he's a stranger and maybe, just maybe I'm forced to convers with him, I'll only ask him one question which is, the prove he has to backup his claims and if i don't get a reasonable reply other than being too biblical then the best thing is to snub him and focus on what I was doing.

 A lot of individuals have made mistakes and instead of them to accept their mistakes and move on they'll blame it on the devil, well good for him he was able to overcome his gambling addiction, but discouraging people and saying the house uses demons to manipulate individuals who gamble is the height of it all, maybe a lot of his religious brethren could believe such but I'll never give listening ears to such thrash.

People have many superstitions about many things but gambling and relating it to the devil is common in many religions. It is because of people who observe gamblers they concluded that gambling being a sinful act leads to bad outcomes.

Of course over here he was just trying to warn you from gambling. But it is ultimately your choice to gamble or not.

It is always true that long term casino is the winner. Hence decision making to gamble should be done with a clear head.

The business they run requires very large capital, so developers have to create winning opportunities that may be very small to obtain. It is impossible for those who build casino businesses to aim to create an institution that distributes money for free as you imagine. Only a few large gambling places provide soccer betting, because in soccer betting the results will be transparent and the gambling place cannot manipulate wins or losses so that it will potentially be detrimental to the gambling place.

Lol, I laughed so loud while reading your post, like really I guess gambling has really done and taken so much from the man that's why he so much dislikes gambling. Though we know that most things onlines have external Bodies behind them but it's not logical to call them satanic. Gambling is a choice, no one forces anyone to gamble neither does the casino do. What ever loss one had with gambling, it was a risk he made his mind to enter. What has the devil gotten to do with gambling.?

Though so many religions preaches against them, as when one becomes addicted other forces applies to it which I might call demonic. But we should try to not over think these things as they have nothing to with superstitious believes.

In essence, everyone has their own journey, experiences and what they believe. in this discussion, we are talking gambling and superstitious beliefs. for us, especially Southeast Asians. Things that are occult, superstitious, and the like, are not taboo in social life. although gradually, something inherited from our ancestors is gradually being eroded by the development of sophisticated technology.
So, what does this have to do with this post? yeah, we are discussing superstitions in gambling. I have personal experience, but I won't explain it clearly. In the past, before the internet was as sophisticated as it is today, people flocked to land-based casinos to gamble. I used to be part of a casino, and we had a special room for anything superstitious. believe it or not, I have experience with what we are discussing. I'm not talking about what it's for, and what the goal is, what's certain is that we involve something that smells like superstition.

Well, actually you and I can see it from various points of view. If you don't believe in anything superstitious, just ignore it. However, we also cannot close our eyes to the fact that there are still many people who believe in it. For me personally, there's no need to debate. Especially in this era of sophisticated technology, we don't need to visit a place called a casino to gamble. yeah, just take out your cellphone, you can still bet even on a bus, how sophisticated is this era? If we talk from the perspective of gambling psychology, everything can be explained with science and knowledge. but if we talk from another point of view, basically our ancestors as predecessors always involved superstition even in the world of gambling. So whoever doesn't believe it, don't bother arguing about it and just ignore it. for those who still involve believing in superstition, let them be with what they believe. After all, we all have different rights, beliefs and different points of view.

        -   I don't seem to have seen anything in the Bible that says it is bad to gamble, but there is another term in the Bible that seems to refer to gambling.
I just don't know what verse that is in the scripture. Gambling doesn't just become good because most gamblers who become addicted to gambling have affected their character.

And what's more, gambling is destructive because of the negligence of the gambler to become an addict, which is why the effect is the destruction of their family and relationships, and sometimes even leads to bad results such as crime scene events.

Demons in casino? should we need to discuss gambling is haram or a sin in the first place? I didn't understand why people can believe in this stupid thing, with the advance of technology that we seen today, I'm surprised people still have old school thinking.

There's still manipulation in sports, it's called fixed match. But in international match or prestigious titles, it's high unlikely we would see fixed match because the title is more important than just the money.

Hahhahaa....very funny words said by the old man. I believe that was what he believes which was able to help him out of his addiction, because assuming he does not believe in what he is saying, he might not be able to stop gambling. So with him believing on a gamble demon helping the casinos to win will scare him away from gambling.

He said the fact about the house hedge always win and that is because of the software algorithm which the casino is using. However, it is good that gamblers understand that no matter how hard they try to win, it is impossible because the house edge will always win, and with this understanding it can make gamblers gamble responsible. I have what I do always say to myself whenever I want to gamble to enable me gamble responsible, amd those words are always in my mind.

we are not sure if what he is saying is true but we have our own beliefs and views when it comes to things, maybe he just wants to give a warning to those he sees gambling because he experienced negative gambling outcomes but it is up to you if you believe what he says, there are many other sayings when it comes to gambling but for me, we are the ones who owns our destiny, we are the ones who manage our actions and if we don't want to be like others who are addicted and sunk into problems because of gambling , we should also know what are the right things to do so as not to lead to such an event.
I've heard a lot like that not only when it comes to gambling, even with rising personalities, they always connect that their souls are pledged to the devils in exchange for popularity, maybe for old people like us it's hard to believe but what if the children can hear? maybe that's what sticks in their minds until they grow up.

That's correct,  human has  a way if rationing blame on what that doesn't favour them, it's not new apart from casino game other things also have such superstition suspect by different individual in as much it doesn't work in there favour. The truth is that what you don't know always appears big or even have superstitious character this is as a result of ignorance in human.

In our society today many  poor person who could not Cross the red line of poverty see some wealthy men as ritualist or as ill wealth because they are ignorant of how to make such money or wealth to cut this analysis short I think he speaks on ignorance needs improve in the knowledge behind gambling.

You are asking something which cannot be easily replied without having in mind the religious standing of the person answering your question, though. You are literally asking whether demons exist or not. So I am not sure what kind of answering you are expecting beyond people saying this is non-sense and others claiming demons exist.
But keeping that to one side... I believe people who manage casinos and betting services do not need further help from unknown forces, because they already have mathematics in their side, though, and mathematics are in control over both believers and non-believers.

I share your theory on the past of that man, he probably had such nefarious experience with gambling that he started to go church and there he learnt on demons and the unholiness on betting, etc. He found comfort on that and now he has given up on betting and gambling completely. There is nothing wrong with that, since it is a personal choice. Just do which is more appropriate in your eyes, always keeping responsibility as your priority.

I suspect your doubts on demons and angels getting involved in gambling won't get solved in this thread, though, be warned.

There are no such thing as demonic in gambling. Most people only rely on what they consume to their brain and act by it. All he said regarding gambling is familiar except for the demonic aspect of it. The house edge is managed by the casino, not some demons as he may have said. I'm not comfortable with the fact you didn't engage in a long term conversation with him to change his vague perspectives of gambling. The whole thing he said may be fueled by his gambling losses.

Due to this he's actually bittered whenever in touch with a gambler. I think this unfolds another reason why people should not gamble in the midst of people or maybe get a dark screen guard that'll privatize your screen from the eyes of spies peeping through your phone. Because those things he said is getting to you and thinking about that is not fine in anyway. The best idea would be removing those thoughts and fling them away from your memory. Focus and enjoy your game. Stay responsible mate.

People who are purists and very religious will tell you that, but they are wrong in saying that demons are the ones manipulating the results, the results are based on its system, and it's a business model meant for people to enjoy the platform not to make money and we all know that it has nothing to do with demon controlling the system, it's the individual character that will make him addicted, they become are addicted to gamble because of their weak control and character, and there are many responsible gamblers.

I think he loses a lot of money which is why he hates gambling and doesn't want people to experience what he experienced but he has a wrong belief that the reasons people are losing is because of demons, gambling is a game of luck, you could win, you could lose you just need to enjoy the game and don't become a hater every time you lose.

Nice one.So the programmers and slot providers who make sure that the house is always in profit are the demons that influence the outcome of a slot machine.The reason why I also think it is extremely funny is that this man attributes the fact that he lost a lot which is completely normal for gamblers to such imaginary forces,human nature is really difficult to understand,they blame always others including imaginary things and never blame themselves for their mistakes.

I think the reason for having such thought is the uncontrollable pulse that some gamblers have to chase their loses, making them to keep betting even when they are losing. This looks like one is manipulated if you know you are losing money yet you don't want to give up. This is the way it sounds that you begin to see some people thinking it is the devil while such person was suppose to stop but couldn't control himself. That aspect of not stopping is what makes some people think it is the devil whereas they are the ones who have allowed themselves to be used by their emotions. So that man is not the only one in that way of thinking.


Most likely he is the type that gambling left bad taste in their mouth because he didn't gamble responsibly.

Judging by his nonsense, he exchanged one addiction (gambling) for another (religion). This is a fairly common case, in the sense that if a person does not have rational thinking, then he finds the appropriate filling for his head.
Maybe there is nothing wrong with that, as long as one day he doesn’t try to exorcise a demon from someone or go burn down a casino as a refuge for the devil (because that’s what the voices in his head whispered)  ;D

Well, the whole story behind is just some people refuse to take responsibility for their actions and instead they claim and give responsibility of their behavior to external forces, like demons or other supernatural influences. Just like with people who abuse substance or alcohol where they claim being hunted and pushed by demons to stay in that situation, gambling addiction itself stems from personal choices and lack of self control because it has something euphoric to certain people while playing.
Casinos themselves often promote responsible gambling with warning signs. The man on the bus likely had a bad or harsh experience in this field and is looking for excuses to avoid blaming himself instead. We all face setbacks in gambling, but it's about learning from them and improving. Blaming demons for losses is just a humorous way to shift responsibility.

sometimes religious believes vets to influence people so much that they just associate everything in a way with some kind of spiritual things a d keep some possible logical approach asides which has even done them more harm than good, I'm not disputing the fact that there are some spiritual implications to some of these things or that spiritual forces don't work but then somethings are just clear that logical approach has kept or in different dimensions about a particular thing , there are some persons who careful gets to control their selves well enough when it has to do with gambling and are very particular about how week they get to profit from gambling and it's clear there's no manipulation except for those who geta to allow their selves to be addicted of which they can actually get to prevent.

Everyone has got their personal experience with the casinos and I don't think it's very okay to try to convincing others into your believe about something as both of you may not be Sharing the same fate with such thing so it's best you both just have to react based on u're personal experience a s not convincing people in to other believes as I personally don't buy into that.

It’s the math that helps the casino win so if the math is considered as Satanic then he is right. :D

This kind of opinion is from those people that use religion as safe haven to stop their gambling addiction since church doctrine is always involved demons and satan to everything that is against their teachings even though there’s scientific evidence on how to explain this.

House always win because all the games is designed mathematically in favor for the house.

I am completely convinced that avid gamblers are always superstitious. They believe in various amulets, rituals and omens, hoping for good luck.

However, I personally do not attach importance to superstitions. In my mind, gambling is pure mathematics. Believing in luck and beliefs can be fun, but the main factor of success in gambling is calculations, strategy and the ability to make decisions based on probabilities.

Therefore, I tend to trust ONLY logic and analysis, not chance and superstition.

There is no way to denying his words. But his words will be true those who use gambling for earning money and become addicted will definitely be affected by the negative effects of gambling. Many people who gamble can control themselves for a short period of time, but after a long time they lose their control again. But not everything he says is true. Because of gambling there are many lucky people who have changed their lives and there are some people who are earning their livelihood through gambling. Not everyone will be unlucky and not everyone will be lucky. A gambler's success in gambling depends on luck, skill and strategy etc. However, if a gambler does not expect to win much from gambling then gambling will be enjoyable.

The belief of devils controlling gambling is old. This person may have lost money or be protecting you. But its math. Casinos and sportsbooks are businesses. No mystery, the chances are in their favor, not manipulated. Your gambling. Gamble for fun, right? It should be fun. Be clever about it. Avoid overdoing it. Thats the difference between enjoyment and trouble.

Want to get on football? Thats fine if done appropriately. Remember, the house always has a slight edge. But ultimately, you decide. You pick how much to spend and when to leave. People, thats the secret to winning. Smart choices, not demons or chance.

Is it true that he believed in that? Possibly yes. But you are asking in the title if that's that happened to him is objectively true? I am interested on what you are basing your concept of truth in life, if you need an opinion based answer to that?

Psychologically it's easy to understand why that man told that story. It's really hard to confront ourselves as people who are weak to temptations and possibly addicts. Especially for people who think that we are perfectly capable to make smart decisions all the time and it's all about if we choose that. When these people come across being mentally addicted to anything, gambling or things they want to avoid. They don't accept that they need a little help, as they know what's a smart thing, but incapable of choosing it.

So when they believe it's all up to them, and that they can be above their brain chemistry, but somehow fail to make the right choice, they need someone to blame. And it can be rigged games, or demons, or even something crazier, just so that they can keep their faith of being in control of their choices. It's also pumping their self-respect to believe that they really didn't make mistakes, demons or something else were to blame. Brain can do pretty strange tricks when it tries to make sense of reality and when we want to justify our actions.

Maybe you misunderstood my post. Well, if you observe properly you'll see where i stated that ( the man made it sound real but I don't believe that) and then i further gave reasons i felt made him make such statements. Well it doesn't matter their reply cause in threads like this people would either be for you or against you and moreover this is a discussion thread a debate is not prohibited and its not bad to know people's opinions, people's Idea an thoughts about such statement atleast some people would give pure facts to convince others and many people who think otherwise like that man, people who are against gambling but post on gambling threads maybe to meet up with campaign targets would learn and understand that gambling is not a bad idea and why people fail in it is because they fail to gamble responsibly. Yes it doesn't guarantee one to be very successful but there are responsible gamblers who are able to minimise their losing streaks it's only an unsuccessful gambler that would come up with such belief.

You should reply him "none of your business, shut the fuck up".

I'm surprised why someone talk too much with a stranger, maybe he thought that he's a God, so he's the one who know what is bad and what is good. He didn't know if gambling is a good thing if someone can control himself, while he's probably someone who never gamble or once an addict, that's his problem, other gambler might not be an addict since different person has different self control.

I think he is not rational if he thinks like that. It's most likely that he cannot explain how probability works and how the brain works in terms of being addicted to an addiction like gambling. He must probably associate it with something that he knows. Indeed, some casinos don't care about the players as long as they are making money from them which in turn = is evil. But I'm not sure how demons or some sort can control it. The humans are the demons? Or something like that?

He is just trying to make sense of things in my opinion.

I will just ignore him; his belief is not my belief when it comes to gambling, every gambler has their own belief and experiences, and these are his motivating factors as to why he is still playing or not; the guy seems to have a worse experience in gambling he may have loss a huge amount of money that is why he attach gambling to demons.
But for us gamblers who treat it as entertainment, we did not view it the way he did, and I never impose my beliefs on other people, so I don't want people to impose theirs to me as long as I'm ok with my gambling experience.

On my own opinion and with the way of look of things are going towards gambling all over the global, some people see gambling as a destroyer or an insane something cause of the way people are going towards it now. For me I don't see it like that, that old man back in the days people see gambling like a down full to whoever go into it.
But currently now it's not that way anymore.

Why cause casino are also helping some people life's earning some little money from it. First before thinking that casino are using demonic or spiritual things, you should know they made it all also clear to you about the risk and luck.

So that when you go into it, you might get addicted cause of the luck you're chasing to get towards it. That's gambling for you no demonic or spiritual things about it. First their are 3 set of gamblers.
(1) ADDICTED ONES
(2) PEOPLE CHASING TO EARN
(3) HOBBY ONES.
 
Maybe the man was in on this set of people, and that would be the addicted ones. Cause he was into it he tried stopping it no way but not until he finally get over it, then he started seeing other people gambling as if they're into something demonic. And it's cause of the addiction that's what makes people sees it as an evil or spiritual thing.

But people that take gambling as a hobby to them, sees it as a fun  or entertaining to them why cause they only gamble when it's their free time, they don't take it too serious or an habits to them. And people that takes it as a form of earning from it are also in line with people are addicted to it. this set of people are more extra serious with it most of them can sleep at the betting place or keep on predicting all day, just to earn money from it they do work but their incomes isn't enough for them.

So they have to push more further towards gambling betting all day, then people at the world will now see casinos gambling as a distraction towards humans life. I think if you see all this before thinking of going into gambling and you decides to opening his/her mouth to call it demonic field his wrong. Okay what about the people that gambling have helped their life's? People who bought car got an investment, builded a home for them, increases their value and businesses etc. what will he think about this set of people?

Apart from the addictive part of gambling, I don't see anything wrong with gambling and demonizing or idolizing it doesn't really make any sense to me. It's just like starting a business. You do all your analysis and from what you've analyzed, you're certain that the business will be fruitful but at the end of the day, if the business will be fruitful or not is totally a function of time and sometimes your analysis pays off well as planned whike for other times, it doesn't.

I will rather see borrowing from an organisation or an app as more demonic than assuming that gambling is of that class. If you're disciplined enough to regulate the extent to which you expose yourself to gambling in an addictive way, you wouldn't eveb talk about addiction whish is a primary thihg that's bad about gambling and even it we talk sbout being an addicted gambler, adeiction doesn't only relate tj gambling. Anyone can be addicted to anything wether he is into gambling or not

I can give an opinion, that people's understanding of gambling is very diverse, there are people who think gambling is as told by that person, There are also other understandings regarding the positive and negative aspects of looking at gambling, now it's up to you to decide whether the person is superstitious or not.

We understand that many people are lucky when gambling and always win many types of games, of course that type of person doesn't care what negative people say, but there are also those who gamble on bad luck, surely such people are easily taken in by what people say.

The point is: what you do in gambling activities comes back to you from the bad and the good side, whatever your decision is, that's the best, continue or stop, you decide for yourself.

Demons influence gamblers says this guy? That's lofty. He's struggled with gambling addiction, but I don't buy the supernatural. Gambling addiction exists, guy. It can ruin your life, relationships, finances, and more. The odds are against you, thus the house always winsh. These casinos have teams of experts thinking out how to keep you hooked with lights, noises, and jackpots No doubt, I gamble. I adore the game's excitement. But I know when to leave. And that's key, man. You must choose wisely to gamble. Reassess if it's taking over your life or affecting it negatively

It's just madness to believe that gambling is manipulated by my demonic or whatever power, while a casino is being developed by a human who runs and manages the casino as his business with the help of other appointees as staff who help in managing the casino for the aim of making profit.How then can someone think that casino gambling is something that was pioneered under satanic influence? 

If an individual allowed themselves to be used under demonic manipulation, which causes them to have a reckless and uncontrollable lifestyle towards gambling, then why should gambling itself be tagged demonic for the ignorance of someone else? 

I believe that the man who told you this is one of those people who have been enveloped in religious belief or traditional belief. 

Religious belief, I guess. Well, this is not a new thing seeing how gambling is being associated with sin in a religious point of view. It's on you whether you'd believe him or not. The only thing that is valid on this discussion is that gambling could be bad for an individual but that is if a gambler is being too attached and exposed to gambling activities on the extent that he's having problems taking a pause of simply quitting and this might be addiction on this context. Maybe you two are just not "speaking the same language" wherein he'e being religious and such. But I still appreciate the idea of him wishing the best for you or guiding you to what he believes the right thing to do.

Nothing's certain. It wouldn't also be safe to judge him nor to assume that he's already out of his mind. If you worry that much then make use of this week at home.

These funny old men would never give up linking everything that doesn't favor them to demons and devils. If you ask him to prove it to you, I'm sure he can't prove it on a  neutral ground without including his religious big bang theorems. Gambling is a decision and not manipulation, I think he failed to gamble responsibly and in his regrets and habit of avoiding responsibly for his failures, he's staging demons as the cause of his earlier irresponsibility.

Another way of introducing himself as a repented gambling addict. I'll tell you for free that he didn't discover anything, rather he somehow quit being an addict and got convinced his bad behaviors were caused by the devil, while he was in fact the devil that manipulated himself with his lack of discipline.

Exactly what I was thinking and the obvious. He's just beating himself up for excessive involvement in gambling and attacking anybody he sees gambling to justify his new life. Such  people would never tell you about gambling in moderation. I don't blame him either, he is ignorant of it and advising you on the limited information available to him and his earlier experience.

The house would always win of course that is how they could continue to host us, if the house lose then the gambling site would close down.
What the old man said is just his personal opinion, or what he wants to believe in order to avoid gambling.
For me there are times that people would create stories on their own and make believe that their stories are true.

It's funny to see it explained through Christian superstition but indeed there is some "darkness" in gambling. Not the darkness of ghosts and demons but rather of the so called dark patterns. Gambling had been studied for quite a long time and it's obvious by now casinos and game makers have come up with the best ways to attract the interest of the player best. So those prone to impulses and addiction can't keep up with the way casinos market themselves, it's just too appealing and keep sucking them in once they've started. But it has nothing to do with demons. It's just math and human behavior.

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How can a person who has access to school, TV, newspapers and the internet talk so much nonsense? lottery games are random numbers that are on tickets, and when a person is lucky enough to match that number that was placed as a target, they become the winner, in games of chance that depend on luck, they are computer programs that people create, and There is a way for people to check if that game is demonstrably fair, in games that depend on skills it is also easy to check that they are fair, so talking about demons is very absurd. he lost because he was unlucky, if it were very easy for everyone to win, then gambling companies would have already gone bankrupt, there would also be many rich people.

I think that in a time like this when there is a lot of information, talking about demons is something meaningless, I hope that the person who said this starts watching the news, going online more and researching more about how gambling works to Don't believe this nonsense he's saying because eventually they'll say he's crazy and needs urgent treatment

The man is among those who have so much belief in superstition, and he also falls under the category of those who look for means to channel their faults and failures into something else.
 
They never want to believe that they are the cause of anything on their own; they always want to blame something or someone for their own mistake and lack of control. 
 
Just as he has told you this, he will also be telling others about how gambling and casinos use some spiritual powers to keep their players.
 
Some of these people even use this as part of preaching if they have the opportunity to, and it's not just that man you saw in the bus alone; there are so many others who also have the same mindset about gambling, which is why they so much dislike and hate those who get involved in it.

Yeah, absolutely well said, but unfortunately, many do not understand this in this context as you explained above, most especially the older generations and those who appear overly obsessed with things of the spirit, for such people, anything at all can be attributed to be spiritual even when it's something that has nothing to do with spiritualism.

But again, on the other hand, just like the op send he was told, I've in time past listened to a pastor preach that for him whom the devil is set out to destroy, that some times, spirits can drive such person into gambling, getting addicted to it and from there, they person life can be completely ruined, whether this be true or not, I don't know and can't say, but one thing I believe for sure is that, in this world we live in, there are definitely other beings we can't see.

Probably this is really the case. He's giving advice based on his experience as a former gambler. Thus, obviously as a gambler with such past, it's just normal to discourage others to not gamble. Because it can really lead to addiction if a person has no control (he's quite right about that).

However, I don't agree that gambling is satanic and there's a demons behind casino. Keep in mind, casino is a business, and it's in the gambler's discretion on how they want gambling to affect them. There are gamblers who can play in moderation and doing fine. Because it depends on the gambler itself and not the casino. You became addicted? Well, it's because you have no discipline.

Your explanation makes no logical sense because there is no proof that any creature called satan exists. I believe everything you have said but it will make sense to only religious people. You can only find what you explained in some Holy books of certain religions and not in scientific books. Anybody who believes that casinos use demons to make people keep gambling belongs to a particular religion. And these religious books contain what to do to overcome these demons. So I will advise such an individual to study these Holy Books and discover how to be free from these demonic influences. In conclusion, your words make only religious sense.

Truthfully, gambling addicts should take responsibility to break free from addiction instead of blaming demons. It is far better to go and seek assistance or help on how to be free from addiction than to do nothing but blame demons for their misfortune. 

       

Those who hold superstitions close often seek to rationalize their missteps or ill-fated choices by attributing them to supernatural or otherworldly agencies. They show an aversion to owning up to their own share of responsibility and instead seek out scapegoats for their errors or downfalls. A person believing that the world of gambling and casinos harnesses otherworldly forces as a manipulation tool betrays his inclination towards pinning external factors as responsible for certain events or situations. They might take it that there are exterior forces dictating the result of their gambling escapades beyond their control, rather than acknowledging that it is indeed their decisions and actions that determine the outcome.

There are individuals who might even use this conviction to justify their disapproval of gambling, viewing it as evil or morally questionable. They might perceive gambling as a negative entity, prompting them to express their stance with others through various means including casual discussions and formal situations like sermons.

I'm not a superstitious person so I'd ignore all similar beliefs, but this thing that OP is describing is plain ridiculous. This guy is on the edge of insanity if he believes that gambling is controlled by demons.
One good thing that comes out of this whole situation is that because of this he managed to completely stop gambling, but on the other hand he became a delusional weirdo that people will avoid when they hear his demon stories, so maybe he's not doing so good after all?

Lol, I know religious belief especially Christian detest gambling habit, since it seen as a quick money scheme. I don't believe in superstitious believe and people putting there imaginary ideas about stuffs. Lmao, the Man saying Demons control how? Mehn that's a business runned for profit making of which gamblers try to alternate which leads to loss and wins.

The fact remains, that Gambling sites will always be a step ahead of gamblers, just to protect as well as profit from there business. Let's not attached any unnecessary believe, how can Demon manipulate you or is it your lack of discipline and emotional tendencies for money.

Well, we do have our own approach and beliefs towards things on which there would really be those individuals that will really be that having those things in mind due to those past experiences that they do have and tending to share up into others when they do spot someone doing the same thing. Well, its something that might be irritable part or in some moment but better not to make yourself that getting influenced. He might be true or not, its his own belief and as long you do make yourself having those bets without having that getting addicted or simply having that moderation then it would really be just that fine for you to proceed. People do normally be cursing up gambling specially if it did make that huge impact or effect into their lives on which telling up someone to some sort of degree on which it already reaches on talking about demon/devil sounds that too exaggerated.
We do know that addiction do comes into someones mind because dealing up with something and ending up on having no proper thinking specially on decisions on which this one indicates that you are really heading there.

It's clear that he's discouraging people so let's disregard the superstitious or religious part. The man probably met a pastor or someone that made him believe that but his intentions are good.

I'm on the more practical side that you usually lose a lot of times when you gamble that's why it just makes sense to limit or stop it completely. That's a statement of fact and no belief system necessary there.

with the aim of advising him, perhaps the aim is to prevent gambling addiction from occurring, which can indeed be detrimental to the main party who can lose a lot of money just because he follows what he thinks, because we all know that if someone gambles he will lose. control, whether because of the results of gambling or indeed from the gambling they actually do, can make them addicted to gambling, of course, when they become addicted to gambling, there are many bad effects that can occur. If we actually have relatives or even friends, there's no harm in advising and reminding them not to gamble excessively.

Regarding gambling involving the devil, I also don't agree that there is a devil behind gambling. What you say is correct, remembering that gambling is a business, of course the business owner will definitely do whatever it takes to attract lots of people to join the business, but you also need to remember that the business owner, I don't think there is any element of coercion, with those who are trapped by addiction. That is the fault of each individual, if they understand that gambling is a business then they should not expect more from gambling.

Well, in my opinion, I think the man is right although gambling is game of luck and chances and I kept wondering how does it work because you will gamble with same strategies today and win and try with it the next day and won't win again, so many questions run through my head but nevertheless gambling should be done responsibly and within limits, also education and awareness about gambling addiction can help prevent harm as it can cause one to lose relationships and also have financial issues and the man ideas can also help people in preventing gamble addiction.

GAMBLING IS COMPLETELY FORBIDDEN IN ISLAM Perhaps the person who called gambling to you as a devil's game may be a Muslim or another reason may be that the person has lost all his money and wealth by gambling in the past. There can be two reasons and these are the two reasons I have highlighted. First of all if a person is a Muslim and has no previous gambling experience but he can't at least tell that you are gambling by looking at your phone screen then we don't assume that the person who advised you must have been involved in gambling before. If you have control over gambling then you will never lose all your money by gambling but when you find that you have no control over your gambling then you should gradually give up that gambling to save your money.

Their is nothing spiritual connected to gambling,  people playing gambling is because demon manipulating their mind to play gambling. The reason why people play gambling uncontrollable is because of the money involved in gambling which they really want to make money from it. Just like the Ponzi schemes,  when people have the mindset of making money quick from it they get so engaged in it and they don't mind investing all the money they have. Gambling is not spiritual,  just that people fail to understand it which they end up getting so addicted to it.

Gambling is just a game that is real and unpredicted and when you engage yourself with it so much you get so addicted that you won't be able to stay without playing it , which might get some people thinking it is spiritual.

Most religious people often implant fears in order for other people to heed them.  The use of demons, devils, salvation, hell, purgatory and so on that torment the soul of a person if he doesn't follow his advise often used to make a serious consequence but if we dig into them deeply, most of these things are man-made or created from imagination since often times many teaches and preaches of these people is not even written on the Holy scripture but rather self-interpretation.

It was plainly discuss and explained that excessive gambling is dangerous due to gambling addiction but gambling itself if in moderation can help a person relax and even avoid stress and depression due to the entertainment and social affect it gives.

All in all it is up to the person's decision whether he will let the "demon"(is there is any) in him takeover his sanity and get himself hooked or addicted to gambling.


There might be some attempt of persuasion from advertisement. promotion and bonuses but yeah, i agree with you, addiction is a matter of choice for individual since it is up to an individual if he will let himself spend more than he can afford to lose and it is up to an individual if he will deposit, and play.  In short, no matter how strong the outside factor influence is, at the end it is our own decision that we follow when it comes to gambling engagement.

That's how other people think or look at gambling, but it doesn't seem right to say that it's the devilish game of a person who loves gambling. We have a casino here, but they also have foundations and charities to help those in need.

Gambling is also a matter of choice. The bad thing is that we are already gambling, and then we will encourage minors to gamble. At this point that I mentioned, this is wrong, of course. So if it's just for me to gamble, don't encourage others.

What do you think its religion? When it comes to believe things do not have to make any logical sense for one to have a strong personal believe. You as well do not have any logical reasons that Satan do not exist, so if you choose to tell him he is kind of wrong then you should give him more reasons to believe what you have said. Perhaps he might be convinced by your own believe which would change his mindset.

I know how it so crazy that people think there is some spiritual activities conducted in the local casinos and even online that makes gamblers lose so much. Gambling is not forced it is out of ones will that they choose to gamble, they should take responsibility if they lose and dont call the name of any gods as an excuse for their failure. If they cant be successful at it then they should quit completely.

it's just his personal opinion about gambling, everyone can have an opinion on something and we can ignore it or take it.  he has a bad opinion about gambling, accuses this and that, but that is just his personal opinion because that is not necessarily the truth.  and discussing the house edge, it is something that is normal in business, because casinos are also businesses, so it is very natural for them to increase their income opportunities.  so it doesn't make sense to worry about it, unless the casino is setting their house edge too high, then it's a problem, or they're intervening in a game.

You don't have to listen seriously with that man because you have a different views of gambling. He can say that gambling is manipulated by demons but for me, gambling is just an activity to have fun in my spare time and don't have to playing gambling too long to prevents the big lose. Maybe that man already lose much money so he said that gambling is manipulated by demons and don't wants other people gets the same thing like him. Well, that's good because at least, he reminds you to be careful when you playing gambling. You can say to that man that you can controls yourself while you playing gambling and not use much money to prevents the big lose. But you can also takes his advice and not says too many words to him because that can makes you in a debate that will not stops.

Some may have positive experiences with gambling and some may have negative experiences. When you gamble, you can have something negative or positive or a combination of both negative and positive. If someone said something negative about gambling, then I would say that you would be wrong to think that gambling is completely negative. Just as we can easily accept the good aspects of gambling, we have to accept the bad aspects because when something good happens, something bad must happen. If someone has a very bad gambling experience then it is very important to know what strategy he has gambled before because if the strategy is wrong in gambling then the result can go against every time.

This man was very lucky to have met someone like you who is calm, if not he would have been served with the best insult of his life that moment because at first, he is intruding into your privacy for knowing that you're gambling on your mobile device, secondly, he is not minding his business, what if its not gambling you're on to, but something that needed more of your privacy, lastly, where was it written in a religious book that gambling is demonic or satanic, i think he is the agent acting in disguise for that purpose by not minding his business.

Well that's not a new thing for me because over here in one of the world most religious society, stuffs like that you actually see and encounter them everyday but one thing I know is that gambling itself was aimed as a business by the casino owners and you wouldn't expect a business owner to be at the lose everytime and the whole system is designed in the way that you keep hoping and thinking you can make fortune out of it and all that is if you take gambling as a serious means of making money because if you take as a place where you actually just drop by and catch some fun then your whole issue of being addicted would be a totally different case.

He is only trying to justify his failure and how he lost money to gambling, only hypocrite will sit and cook this kind of stories. If that's true that gamblers has some external force of nature that stop them from winning then many people who win all the time and tells the world they won something wouldn't have won again the second time, the third time again but they actually won and nothing happened.

If you're good in gambling and you are lucky, you will win and no demon or witches will hindrances the outcome of your bets, I don't even know when demons start operating digitally to change things or maybe they start changing what the outcomes of a game is going to be in the end.

let me guess, the guy is also religious? it is great that he found a way to stop his gambling through his beliefs but the guy is full of BS, I suggest ignoring it. religious people have claimed a lot of things to be satanic, I still remember my religious grandma saying that coloring my hair is satanic and I am being influenced by demons through the music I was listening to.

Dont let it to get into your head because if you do keep on minding on the words that he had said then it might be a reason that you cant really be able to enjoy up your gambling activity or dealing since you would really be continuing on minding on the things that he had said on which we know that this is something that superstitious but we do know that he has some point about gambling addiction and
possible huge spending of money with gambling which it could really be that leading into that huge regret in the end of the line. This is why it would really be that important that you should be wary on whats the actual reason on why you do gamble?

Gamble for fun and not for more then everything would really be just that fine. Why? moderation and control is something that will really be that mainly needed when dealing up
with gambling because having nothing of this will really lead into disaster.

As said, the guy on the bus is very much into gambling and has lost big. At some point, he had turned to be more religious, and the same has made him come out of the gambling practice. From that point on, his life might've changed on the positive side, and the same had driven him towards stating gambling as satanic. We can't be sure that there is no manipulation, but the involvement of demons is just an imagination. There are people who are superstitious, and they find different choices to win. This is different, and he had to find a way to quit gambling.

That is a sign of hallucination and superstitious believe. Those words he said where not actually true but he is using what happened to him As an example to tanish the image or reputation of gambling. There are no demon anywhere In gambling but it was just a mear imagination due to frequent lost. Greed makes people to easily fall into gambling trap or slowly becoming an addict. The act of chasing loses is the main reason why people lost alot. Another is that naturally gambling is programmed in a way that it is nearly impossible to win due to lack of possibilities, the chance of winning in gambling is %10 inside every %100 and inside the %10, %5 may be at advantage to win on a regular basis that is why it looks like demon controls it but not so.

For sure if he does, he prayed for his bets to win which is kind of odd for someone who's religious. But hey, we do get this a lot nowadays, right?  :D

This made my day and you made me laugh.

There's something odd to these extremely religious but look at them, you'd see something wrong with them that they don't notice. I am happy to see religious people and doing their faith but they should be limited to do that for themselves and not to meddle with others.

I'll go with logic and maths when deciding probable wins or losses but people have a ton of beliefs about what works for them.   Some of it is real for that person in getting them in the right mood or mindset, I dont argue with people what makes them right on the day and happy within their gamble to operate best on the day.   Some of it is the attitude towards gambling, there is no certainty and if you have the good belief that you cannot always win that is probably for the best in controlling your ego and hubris; whatever works for you!

well you have a point on that, mate. We have our different beliefs when it comes to gambling winning so we should just focus on our own strategies and logic when it comes to winning the game in gambling, as long as you can manage yourself then go, do what you want to do and let others do what they want too. know that whatever works on us will probably not works to other people.

Indeed, gambling that is done excessively is dangerous, because it is guaranteed that you will become addicted and of course when you become addicted, many problems will occur, such as losing large amounts of money, relationships between each other that can become strained or even worse. . Gambling itself is man-made whose aim is to generate profits. with those who make this, of course the main thing is to make a profit from the many people who gamble. Also, the host will not care about what happens to those who are addicted to gambling, whether they become destitute because they go bankrupt or whatever, because it is also because of their own wrong actions in gambling too much. It's true what you said, if gambling itself is done with common sense, in other words, you can understand it well and don't thirst for victory, then it won't be a problem.

It is clear that the devil is within oneself. with those who become addicted to gambling, it may be because they follow their instincts incorrectly, where it is handlebars that encourage them to continue gambling because of the lure of winning. It's true, it doesn't matter how strong the influence of external factors is, because complete control lies with those of us who do the gambling.

Everything will start with defeat, he said all that because he has definitely experienced defeats that really made him feel big loss, and basically people who gamble and experience big losses will always blame anything for their failure.
Saying gambling is the devil is not correct because this is indeed business and in gambling if we use logic and an objective mindset then we will understand that the gambling algorithm is random and gives greater percentage of losses to gamblers.
It has nothing to do with the devil or anything that seems religious in gambling, but if you say about manipulation then it is true and indeed some gambling places use lot of these dirty tricks to make more gamblers lose.

But I think this kind of opinion is quite normal because I have found several times that some people have similar beliefs where they believe that casino owners or betting providers have been helped by the devil.
But I personally wouldn't think so because I understand that gambling is place that was created to provide benefits to its owners and we as gamblers are only the ones who will provide these benefits.

Most people that have loss to gambling back then can be unbelievable having such archaic mindset,have heard that a lot times usually when I was much younger we were told that there's a spirit that controls all of this and thus tend to favour the casinos with more earnings leaving the gambler addicted and a looser.
And sometimes when I was much younger I use to believe such and stay far away from it but as I grew up to know some certainty of life I had to believe yes they are really superstitious and some people can be so spiritual and making sure other members follow their words.

I don't know where you're from but personally I don't know anyone who believes in demons, and if in a conversation someone were to say that to me I would suddenly remember that I have to leave at that moment because I have a very important thing to do that can't be delayed. Anyone who believes in superstitions and demons in gambling is going to do badly, very badly. Better not to gamble and to pray.

Anyone who believes in this SHOULD not gamble in the first place and anyone who is religious should not gamble as well. Because if they do, they don't have integrity and most likely going to break their own rules in terms of allocating funds and time with gambling.
But for people who don't believe any of these are free to do everything they can. What is important is we respect what others believes. Even with superstitious gestures in gambling, I respect that all though it looks funny.

That's happens to some gamblers that have much losses because they wants to gets their lose money and they will use ancient things that can helps them to wins. But that will not works as gambling is not related to superstitious so they will still lose their money and even they can becomes addicted to gambling. It's different on gambling as gambling is parts of entertainment. If people still use something related to superstitious, they must knows that will not helps them to wins. They must have luck to wins on gambling and if they don't have, they will difficult to wins but only lose their money. But we don't have to talks about anything to those who believe superstitious things, especially when they playing gambling because that's their belief. We can just lets them still do that while we only playing gambling as usual.

Demons, Satan. What next, zombies and vampires? I though that gambling was not allowed for underaged. All this reminds me saying that gambler will blame anyone except accepting fact that he lost due to lack of luck, random factors and probability. It is absurdly to believe that some otherworldly forces help casinos to out win gamblers.

Most of these "retired gamblers" who come back to criticize gambling and spread falsehood about it are those who were reckless with gambling and got their own fair share of the consequences of being reckless. I am yet to see a gambler who puts the blames on himself for all the misfortunes he faced as a gambler, they would rather accuse the casinos, betting platforms and the gambling industry as a whole. We have lots of good gamblers out their, but the bad gamblers keep making people see gambling as a devilish thing. There is no such thing as superstition in gambling, there is no demon controlling anyone. If at all there is anything pushing gamblers to be irresponsible and act out of proportion,  then that one thing is Greed. Let them conquer greed first and see if there will still be any demon manipulating gamblers.

But it's not something magical, the house indeed has the higher edge. It's openly declared on each gambling site. But yeah, I understand why the guy has never visited a gambling site - the Demons!


The house edge works through mathematics. Does the old man think that mathematics is ruled by demons too? It think it's very likely that he does. I personally don't think that "he's lost too much in gambling" because to lose too much you must have it first, and I think what this old man lost is his mind, a long time ago and not because of gambling.

I guess these kind of people really have to blame someone with their winning (God), or losing (Demon). Although there could be games in lower league that can be manipulated at some point, but I don't think there is divine intervention in any games though.

Going back to gambling addiction, still depends on every individual, we really have to control and manage our emotions to not fall for being addicted. But there are chance as well to recover, as there are also stories of people who had kick it from from their system.

Casinos don't need the support of the demons to stay profitable. When it comes to sports betting, there is no manipulation they can do because you are the one deciding the side that will win and you can see the odds even before you make the bet, and you only do it if you are okay with the odds. There is no doubt that if some players win, others lose, and those who lose are the ones keeping the casino profitable even after they pay out the winners.

Gambling is a business for its creators, and it is technically not a way for players to earn money but a way to earn revenue for its creators, so there is no need for satanic powers to support the house for it to earn revenue from its gamblers because they already do it without doing anything.

As long as the gambling casinos we are playing with is legit, I'm very sure that there are no manipulations that are taking place. I also believe that there are no such things as demons, I mean the literal one. You know those who are colour red with a scary face, with wings and horns in their head but those gambling casino manipulators who do this to take more advantage of their players, can be considered to as one of it.

I think that there is nothing wrong for being superstitious or whatever means you think that will help you to win or quit playing gambling but what is important is that we are not hurting our selves or the people around us.

Dont mind other peoples words and just simply play on what you are really that tending to deal with. As long you are playing for fun and not that impulsively playing gambling and making out some more deposit like a mad man then you are doing good but if not and you've been wary that you are spending that huge then better to have a break. Making up some self realizations are really that something a moment which is really hard to have as an individual. On the time that you would really be dealing up with gambling then you should really be just that careful on what you are dealing with specially on the imposed possible addiction
that it could really be having on where you should be watching out those probabilities. You cant really be able to blame someone to make up those words even though it is already that big too much when that kind of
advise but at least there's someone who had been showing up some concern in regarding gambling possible addiction. Dont let those words will be bothering you, just let it slip and play accordingly for the sake of fun
then it wont really be something an issue for you.

What I've come to understand is that there are some religions that doesn't support some certain things and individuals who's religions fall under that category would always kick against things that's not supported by their religions, if you read the OP's post properly you'll understand that the OP is a religious person, maybe a Christian and that's why he mentioned that.

 But I'm not buying to his idea or thoughts cause I'm not very superstitious or allow my  belief to mislead me concerning certain things, the said person must have lost a fortune in gambling or was an addicted gambler before he repented therefore he feels gambling was the reason for his previous misfortune not knowing it was his reckless act towards it.

There are ones who would really be obeying on what their churches or religion that telling them against on certain things. Some will follow but there are ones who would really be definitely be doing even if its against
then there would really be those individuals who would really be that continuing despite of those prohibitions but well we do have our own choices when it comes to the things that we are dealing of with.
There are individuals who do really strictly obey and this is why on the moment that they are seeing someone whose been doing into those things that its prohibited to them then they would be telling that person
that they should be stopping it because its not good.

Different religions does have something which are really that different on which there are who do have that normal approach towards gambling and there are ones
who do totally ban or prohibits gambling. This is why words could be heard out will really be basing up on such condition.

The older generations see gambling then as an activity of a irresponsible person, an activity of a jobless person who lacks direction with their future but what they don't understand is that the ways in which gambling were played back then is different with the way gambling is played today. The evolution of internet has made everything smart and fast that the things that wast your time gambling are now of the past but because of the "parent" signature, not all of them will understand this.


How can gambling be satanic when I have seen a prominent man of God gambling by my side. I have seen a man that was gambling by my side. It was in Saturday and that been Saturday which leagues do play and because he forgot to stake it before leaving the house, he did it while on journey sitting right next to me and heaven didn't fall, some of this statement are nothing but ignorance and lack of exposure.

I don't know if you are religious, but many of these beliefs are the result of religion.
However, if you ask me: Is gambling a sin? Is this the devil's thing?
Well... the Bible doesn't talk about betting and gambling as we know it today, but it says that we should be prudent with our money and not be controlled by addiction, and that already says a lot about the behavior of most gamblers. that I know here.
She also says that money earned dishonestly is not pleasing to God.

So, the conclusion I have is that gambling is not really a problem, most of them can be played just with the intention of having fun, the problem is that when we play it with the intention of getting money from it: “The The love of money is the root of all evil and whoever runs after easy money ends up in many difficulties", 1 Timothy 6:9-10

Based on what you have been told, do you want us to contradict what the man had told you? No! I would not contradict the man's believe and I hope you have your own believe  too. We need to understand what we go for and what we don't go for. Choose your own path and do not allow anyone to trey to convince you or make you believe what you do not believe. We all from different doctrine and if you think that what the man told you was actually correct, I don't think their is any need for you to come and tell us but rather tio follow the path.

You know what maybe this guy is on to something haha. I mean gambling is a big business, but to say that Demons are running it is definitely a pretty crazy idea to just throw around like that. I am leaning more towards your suspicion that the guy has lost one too many bets and has now made gambling synonymous with the devil. The bible doesn't strictly say that gambling is a sin or anything like that, however, the bible does warn against the love of money and dishonest gain. If I were you I would have pressed this guy for so much more information I just find this statement fascinating, I wonder what evidence if any he had to support these bizarre claims.

I also agree with saying the guy has already lost a lot of money. He would say that gambling is a sinful practice that we should not engage in. But it is normal if there are people who say that gambling is something done by the Devil, and hopefully, he will really not return to gambling and always advise people to stay away from gambling. Hopefully, he also knows that he can only advise people and doesn't need to force them to follow what he has done. I would not press the person to provide more information because it is a matter of each person's privacy unless he tells us.

Agree, it is important whether we are from the perspective of a scientific generation or the perspective of abstractionism, I mean invisible and supernatural entities from religions, although it is said that there are quite a lot of superstitions, there is still a conviction that cannot be explained, so the player's individual should proactively decide whether to fail by science or by supernatural things. If one has defined the principles of science and modernity, the only advice is just not to exaggerate losses and suppress hidden desires

Losses in gambling often entrap individuals within traditional superstitions. When I was young, I heard tales about spirits dictating gamblers' losses to fuel their addiction while casinos prospered, which led me to avoid gambling based on such beliefs.

In my youth, I too succumbed to such superstitions and kept away from gambling. With age came the realization that life is not as simple as being governed by mystical forces always. We live in a society rich with superstition and spiritual beliefs; many are still held captive by these beliefs, even propagating them onto others who follow suit.

In the end, grasping reality and steering clear of high-stake gambles is deemed prudent. While superstitions and spiritual inclinations may find a place within one's belief system, it's crucial to consider gambling as an endeavour that demands astute prudence and responsibility, irrespective of any mystical connotations it holds for individuals.

This is very funny but there is no diabolism or superstitious belief in gambling, it is just a normal business that you as the owner can either gain or lose sometimes even though it looks like losers are higher than winners but their are some times that due to large winnings payments are not paid immediately because the casino owners may run out of cash so they can withheld payments for some interval of time when a lot of losses have been realized then they pay previous winnings. But too much addiction makes it looks like there is a force behind gambling but nothing of such, if you play responsibly and at leisure with little amount you will find gambling interesting.

That's not funny because for some people, they still believes about superstitious in gambling. Some people uses something that can helps them wins when playing gambling but that will not guarantees to helps them to wins. Other people will say casino use something related to superstitious that can helps casino to beat people when those people playing gambling. If those people can considers that gambling is just a business which gives many gambling games to them, they will not thinks about superstitious or other things that related to that. They will not uses much money to playing gambling because they can loses that money and that's not because of superstitious. But we knows that casino will gets the biggest profits than gamblers and that's the fact for gamblers to realizes and accepts it.

Though wired to see patterns, they may not be real. Gambler's fallacy: Angry spirits cause bad luck? Get out! We're just trying to make sense of the chaos. The math supports casinos, not ghosts. This game's dealer is probability, not your lucky rabbit's foot.

You want to win? Think rationally. Every dice roll and card dealt is independent of your wishes or mumbo jumbo. It's about freedom, not cynicism! The pieces of superstitions don't fit, but people keep putting them together. Especially after losing large, they cling at straws. Get out of that echo chamber! Think critically: if these spirits are so strong, why aren't they earning casino pay?

He doesn’t need to have lost money to tell you that. People have their beliefs and some he their beliefs because someone was able to convince them that that’s the truth. Saying that it satanic depends on what he means by “satanic”. The word can mean many things like saying that something is too addictive that it is bad. But then it can also mean the Satan that has to do with hell. If he’s talking about it being addictive, of course it is, but it has nothing to do with Satan.

That's right. And the math is not so evil either. Casinos have just a slightly better chance of winning, that's all. You should keep that in mind and take the risk if you fancy it.


Although thinking rationally won't help you to win in purely luck-based games, it won't hurt overall for sure.


I personally don't believe in any spirits, but I think those who do are of the opinion that spirits do not need money. :)

Well, you're right every individual have a choice of believing in whatever they want to and that's why I won't even give such person a listening ear, I'll even tell him politely to mind his business and allow me focus on my bookings cause such discussions would distract someone to make wrong choices by picking the wrong odds or so. As a gambler you need to be focused when booking game.

 Well if the term satanic he meant was being addictive then it's understanding and he's right to some point but then if am not an addictive person I won't take his words seriously I'll just see him as someone who thinks am an addicted gambler and is trying to help me from it but if I notice the satanic he meant was relating to the Satan in hell, I'll just laugh over it and continue to focus on what I'm doing.

First thing is that Why talking to a complete stranger? and the way that person approach you?
it looks like He is the one who is possessed and not the gambling because he is the one who is crossing
between your space and his lol.

If I were you even if he says true here yet you will be the one who must decide , I am not a fan of
addiction in gambling but I know that this is something that also brings joy to players so it is not demonic
but it become one once you choose the wrong path.

Some people is like that, actually, specially in a context where they are waiting for the bus to arrive, waiting on a line on the bank or any situations where boredom could strike to them. Those are social people who likes to talk about anything to complete strangers outside of their home.
It has probably happened to you, some guy approaches you and he slowly starts to open up to you and talk about his life. There is nothing wrong about it, in my opinion, I have even noticed that the elderly are more prone to do so than the young people.

Either way, one is not supposed to allow the believes of others to affect our own, if we believe that other person is giving legitimate advice is up to us to analyze it and see if makes sense to improve our situation, otherwise, just discard it and move on.

Yeah this happens to me but never that i engage talking because there is one important thing
my father thought me to never entertain strangers specially those who will just approach you in public
without important matters to tackle ?
I will keep silent or will move away to show them im not interested.

The skill of conversation is lost today. People are too addicted to their screens to enjoy human interaction. Okay, I understand. When waiting in line or for the bus, boredom can be painful. In fact, theres a wealth of wisdom and experience ready to be accessed.

You shouldnt believe all advice. A casual conversation with a stranger can reveal surprising things. Perhaps a seasoned gambler or wise elder shares their life lessons.

Focus on listening and being open-minded. You may learn something. You've connected with another person even if the chat doesnt reveal anything life-changing. We should value that in a disconnected world.

I respect people who have superstitious beliefs because I know they also have their own reasons for that. However, when it comes to gambling, instead of blaming all those losses to the demons behind the casinos, why not blame yourself because you never act as a responsible gambler but instead, you turn into an addicted one. It’s not the casino’s choice to see you losing consistently, but it’s actually your own choice and action that made you suffer from that.

Furthermore, gambling is a business, so the edge is always on the house, not on the various players, otherwise we won’t see gambling casinos stay longer in the market because they resort into bankruptcy after a month or two of operation.

As @Hispo said above which is actually not a problem to talk to strangers in public places accidentally as long as we can really think using common sense and rational thinking, anyway I think there are positive points in the situation which can improve our social relations with other people we never knew before which maybe we can get a good experience, knowledge or insight by talking to them as long as we can really think rationally.

Everyone has their own life choices and habits and as you said that maybe since childhood you have been forbidden by your father to talk to people you don't know, there is nothing wrong with that and maybe I think your family prioritizes prevention to avoid some unwanted things such as especially so that you are not influenced by anything that others say that can change our beliefs, but if we have prepared various things in ourselves then I think there is nothing wrong with mingling with others, but it must also be accompanied by restrictions.

Truly, I have heard or read of too many strange beliefs people have on gambling but this is the funniest I've ever set my eyes on. I think such occurrences is the reason why gamblers should play out of the sight of people around them. Recently, we all know how little, people now mind their businesses. Everyone gets to talk to gamblers as though they're the worst people in the world. What could actually have made that person to think that demons are in control of our gambling results. I think he does not know anything about gambling and he just stands by what his brains tells him about gambling.

If this person have ever been in the casino or read any kind of book about gambling he would have known that the house has an edge that controls the funds people receive while gambling. No need listening to his thoughts or even bother on it, such people are just trying to distract the player from focusing on his games. However, if I were to be there I'd clear his doubts and teach him about the housing edge. And how gambling losses actually works. Letting such wrong ideas slide by is quite dangerous. We don't know how many more gamblers he'd say similar things to. Correcting him is the best thing to do in this case.

Indeed, there is nothing wrong with someone who believes in superstition in the bets they place, as you say is very true, of course they have their own reasons for believing that and if they blame the devil for the losses they get, of course that is very ridiculous, why do they believe in it? about this, but after that they ended up blaming and it would be better for them to blame and it would be better for them to gamble responsibly and not blame other people when they lose.
That's right, most gambling places will be able to survive for a long time if they have players who regularly place bets at their place because every gambler will of course experience a lot of losses.

Well, I don't know about you, but in my opinion, it goes a little bit too far not to talk to strangers whatsoever and take it to heart while one is being taken care by ones of father.
Regardless one is taking about gambling or not, most of people we have met in our life had been strangers to us at some point, hadnt they?
What matters is to correctly and accurately identity the red flags scammers will always leave around unwillingly so anyone aware of them won't fall for their tricks to take our money.
It would be a very miserable and strange life if I have to live in fear and in a constant state of skepticism about all people around me.

True. Thanks to cryptocurrency and the Blockchains we do not need to further rely one hundred percent on trust, sadly that does not apply to human being.... yet  :P

Hahaha you are right and indeed everyone will have their own beliefs in things like superstition, but in context like this I can say that belief in things like superstition can never be proven logically.
Blaming the casino for superstition for every loss gambler experiences is also very inappropriate attitude to take because everything happens as result of the gamblers own decisions.
Gambling carries the risk of losing and gambling has several bad impacts on gamblers, but they always make the wrong decision by continuing to do whatever they want when gambling, obviously whatever the result is, it is the gambler fault.
Linking superstitious problems to gambling will only make things worse and damage self confidence.

Well, that what must gamblers should think, logically gambling is business and they build casinos or gambling sites to make profit, so it natural that they are on top and gamblers as customers will only lose.

Whether you want to believe it or not is a person's right to believe it or not, but here I want to deepen your statement so that it can be understood by everyone, often everyone who does hot money business such as gambling will usually always use mystical things to help attract someone.  to be tempting in this case, but not everyone will admit it, but this has been confirmed by several people who have previously experienced it, usually there is a collaborative agreement between the owner and the shaman to include the devil to increase a person's attraction to gambling in whatever form it takes,  so that you continue to have a high level of curiosity about gambling, so what you are saying now or the person you mentioned is true, but it all comes down to whether you want to believe it or not, everyone has different beliefs.

You should've told that man that you were the devil or something like that, I can guarantee you that he'll have that moment ingrained in his mind, I don't like people that tries to meddle with what I'm doing just to say something really stupid that doesn't really have anything that would contribute to what I do, I mean come on man, I don't care about your belief and I'm not really asking you to save me. Minding your own business goes a really long way if I'm being honest, makes you live longer. Superstitions are a goofy thing in the modern day, grow up.

Take him easy, that is just his mantra.

Gambling spirit  is in  the core  of the human brain and I think should  it were lost in the past then evolution would have slowed down significantly. I think this spirit will help humanity to withstand AI at the time when needed. ;)

I think he only lost his mind due to too much gambling. This is also happening on other addicts, mostly the drug ones. A superstitious belief is different from it. That's right @OP, you should not believe such claims but just continue on what you are doing if this makes you happy. What important is us and not the others.

The only way for us to stop gambling is if it's already banned in our country or we have a religion that prohibits it. Just to clear things out, I do not mean that addicted gamblers like him will also continue. I know that is their life and that is their money that they use when playing, but still it was wrong in any angle you look at it. Sometimes I also do follow some simple superstitious for my important works like green dress and prayer before beginning etc. This simply gives me some confident then what would be wrong in following it?

This is a common human superstition, not necessarily associated with gamblers. My point is that gamblers are no more superstitious than other people.

Of course, your travel companion is absolutely right in describing the casino’s business model, but the statements of an adult (pointing his finger at a smartphone) about demons at least look funny, and at most a reason to think about its adequacy. Personally, I am a little surprised and feel slightly embarrassed when, in the age of high technology, I come across statements of human superstitions that touch on various mythologies (such as Christian, as in this case). It would seem that humanity has overcome the dark ages, but as you can see from your story, some characters still remain in those times. :)

One of the main reasons on why people do really go into those places on which they could really be having that kind of social interaction with other people. I doesnt have any sense in regarding
about connecting with that kind of situation on which you wont really be tending to have those interactions just because it would really be that affecting your overall luckiness?

Superstitious beliefs and other things which is really that always been that connected out with things on which it isnt really just that limited to gambling but also in other aspects as well.
It turns out that this has become that being a traditional stuff on which you would really be trying out to attach and make yourself believe that there are really those things
that could affect someones luck. It isnt really that bad on making  yourself having those kind of beliefs and trying it to follow but of course it would really be just that
better that you dont make yourself that applying those things but as long you arent harming or putting up someone into trouble then you are free on what you would really be gonna doing.

To answer your question, I will say that this is a matter of faith. This means that it is impossible to determine whether it is true or not. It depends on whether a person believes in it or not. This cannot be proven or disproved. You can talk a lot about who is behind this - demons, vampires or Santa Claus. This cannot be proven; it all depends on your attitude towards it. I believe that God revealed to us what we need to know, He hid the rest from us.
I am deeply convinced that behind many bad things it is not demons, but human stupidity.

Some people just have the believe from mythic narratives which is really not the truth but they will keep passing the idea from one generation to another and in every generation, you will definitely find people who are telling you the mythic narratives about gambling that has been instilled in them. It will be difficult for you to convince such people that gambling is not satanic as they thought. If something is satanic, that means it is controlled by the devil or the devil's agent and if casino was controlled by devil's agent that means people will not be gambling at all.

@shivansps, I agree with you on your last statement.

I believe it's true. There are so many superstitious people in the world, and the fact many of them are gamblers doesn't show that gamblers, or most of them, are superstitious. Rather, it is because many people are gamblers. Some of them drink Coke, others are vegetarians, and others are superstitious. It's like encountering many vegetarian gamblers and coming to the conclusion that all gamblers are like that.


Yeah, me too. But that's how it is: a lot of people have outdated views.

That's one good point of view of this kind of belief.
It's true. Gambling can cause chaos not because of what is said by God or the Bible but it's because of human stupidity. Anything that is abused can be harmful to us. Gambling was supposed to be an added spice for entertainment, a hobby, but there are those who would use it as their daily job or worse, getting addicted to it and never stopping for a day to take a rest.
It's not demonic or controlled by Satan, it's just people abusing things like how they abuse drugs, alcohol, and other substances that are harmful due to over-usage. Drugs are supposed to cure illnesses and yet they keep on taking them because they feel good. The same with other types of plants or chemicals that are abused.
No one is forcing us to gamble, it's our own decision. So should it be blamed on something else?

Maybe some people believe about this since they are live on environment that believe on super natural things that's why they always think about that there's something they can do to change the result of the game that's why some of them always came up with idea that some rituals or their beliefs will work to counter the possible result then turn the results in favor with them. I maybe find it sounds crazy but still I respect their believe but what I really think that there's no other thing that can change the result of each game whatever extracurricular things they do since the result will always come up random. But if they play on skilled based maybe they can change something especially if they try to familiarize the game and create a good strategy to get increase a little bit their chance to win.

I think it's demons because Christianity said God banished many angels that was taking the side of Lucifer when he chased them away from heaven if we are believing the stories in the bible. Superstitious are real in gambling and sports, some players have their own superstitious that they believe in and it works for them. Christiano Ronaldo said he does not like touching trophy before playing in the competition and it works for him because he has won many trophies while others in spite of if they touch or kissed the trophy they still can win it. Messi in the 2022 world cup touched and kissed the world cup trophy before playing in the competition and he still won it but Ronaldo that did not do that still did not win it therefore it can work for some people while it would not work for others. Gambling is mostly about luck therefore superstition can be used when gambling and you win.

You should back your point with proof or link, about Messi and Ronaldo touching Cup or not. And i disagree Messi kissing the world cup before match, that's a lie. It cannot happen, only few are selected to touch the world cup after a win not before it.

Superstitious believe are relevant to those who believe in such, for me it's nonsense. Beliefs are what one uphold to be true within his own judgement, God himself gave us freedom and choice that's why we can do anything at all.

I'm not into a religious matter because we have different believes on it but most of the time people linkages the gambling as related into evil because of its effect again at the end of the day it's people's choice what they will do with their life if they want to get addicted or being a casual player of gambling so no related into religious matter.
Gambling can form to a person an negativity power so people thinks gambling are the root of it but no it's the person who made the decision.

His experience may have been very real to him, and although it may sound absurd to you, it is important to realize that each person has a different way of understanding and dealing with their bad experiences. Even though the guy has strong views and they may sound strange to you, he may just be trying to help in a way he thinks is right. In the meantime, it is important for you to remain rational and not be too swayed by extreme views, but still respect any concerns he may raise regarding the risks of gambling.

We have different views about gambling. Maybe that person have bad experience from gambling so he say like that. But for those who can use gambling as an entertainment will not say like him because they can treat gambling as well and they has limits when they playing gambling. They will not breaks their  limits because of chasing the wins because they knows that will gives them  much chance to wins. They'd rather to choose playing gambling moderately using the money they can afford to lose and always avoids the big lose by limiting their money in gambling. That's why if we wants to playing gambling, we should cares about our money and time so we don't spends too much money and not too long playing gambling to prevents the lose not to becomes bigger.

Yeah right, don't be too naive on something if it's because of your own mistakes in making decisions, honestly what kind of person is gambling why he hates it so much because he lost a lot of money in gambling, it's because they are looking for money in gambling, spending money that he can't lose, which causes him to lose more money because of chasing defeat, gambling may be for people who are not able to control themselves will be very detrimental because he will be controlled by the ambition to win himself which eats more money in gambling to feel that gambling is very bad for him.
It's about yourself, why blame the outsiders that they don't tell us to push the button and gamble, they just offer fun, and if you're lucky you'll get a reward, simple as that.

Gamblers always want to blame something for their reckless gambling life, instead of accepting the fact that they were gambling to make profit and that made them to keep on chasing their losses and losing over and over again. It is when they gave realized that it is impossible for them to win back their losses and for that reason, they will quit gambling because they never wanted to gamble for fun but for money.

Such people will always come up with excuses to make you feel that they were not chasing their losses but was gambling responsible. A responsible gamble will know that he will run at loss and doesn't care. This is why he only gamble with little amount of money that is nothing to him.

It’s normal reaction to blame something after losing because it channels your inner negative feelings towards the things that you are blaming. Most important is you don’t take it personally and move on after the blaming part. I usually do this when lose, I blame my luck when I lose that’s why I can easily accept my fate.

Realization is easy to achieve if you don’t have any burden on your chest when loss since it’s very hard to accept it immediately if the loss is still fresh.


Responsible gambler is not all about the size of your bankroll. It’s about knowing your limit and just like what you said, know when you will need to stop.

The house edge favours the casino in the long run, this is an open fact and there are no second thoughts on it. But still people gamble, why ? Because despite all the facts, there are chances that the gamblers will win too and they win.

The games are probably fair and its a matter of probability and demons have no roles in all this  :D This should not be considered as it is not due to supernatural forces but rather the mathematical principles behind these games.
It's common for people who have had negative experiences with gambling to develop strong opinions against it. We cannot change the mind of people but we should not believe in everyone's point of view. Its better to use common sense and believe only in things that seems logically true.

That is the worst behavior of humans not just gamblers, they always blame the outside for their own mistakes, and they deny themselves that they are doing wrong, and that's what makes everything look guilty in the eyes of people like that, I think there are not a few people who do that, and most of them hate other than talking about religion because they don't know how they limit themselves to something that can damage themselves, even like eating, drinking and others without knowing how much the body can accept then that person will quickly enter the pit of disease, this is the same as in gambling in my opinion.

I know the losses that make them depressed, but my annoyance is why they don't read themselves, because all of that happened because of their mistakes in gambling, gambling responsibly will be very difficult for people like that.

I don't like going by all what we see others say to be true, we sometimes also have to use our own understanding and discernment in judging over some situations in other not for us to allow them take advantage over us, if no one has ever known about someone being a gambler, i believe such word will not be uttered out to that person that gambling is demonic, we say some things all because we are aware of the situations, what about the ones we know nothing about, aren't they demonic as well, we should just learn to despise some weird advise and focus on doing what is right, having fun through gambling is never worst to that extent of calling it being demonic.

He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them. Well he said crystal clear haha and if you ask Is this true or some superstitious belief about gambling? I would say everything is back to you frennn and if you are believer then or most of people will straight away believe it. I mean in my religion gambling is prohibited and something prohibited sometimes has a connection with demon or something like that.

There may be some superstitions about gambling in some places but the world has become very modern and people are now trying to keep up with the world. People now laugh at things that people used to believe in. Science has made our life much easier and science has taught us to think about everything much more simply. Although some people believe in some superstitions about gambling, gambling has spread all over the world and gambling is now an accepted game in most countries of the world.

But me I just believe you should do what you think that is right and do what you want in gambling, though the person had a bad experience, it doesn’t mean he should apply the theory to you gambling because your gambling and his gambling is different. You have to understand it on your own way. You don’t need to use another man belief to analyze your own belief. Just have to take his experience and the energy to do the writing that is all you need to do. Gambling is on all about risk.

It sounds very ridiculous when they think or think that the casino owner is helped by Satan to be able to win in the long term or makes many people addicted, actually I'm not sure about this, because I think that they are addicted to it because of themselves, if blaming it on gambling is absurd. Apart from that, I don't think there is any element of casino owners forcing any of their players to gamble continuously and become addicted, by placing advertisements it is a natural thing because the casino they own is a business that is being developed, but the mistake is that many people are hypnotized by deception. from the casino owner. If they can think well where casinos are a business where the goal is to make a profit, they should be able to gamble appropriately.

Even though gambling is prohibited in some countries, I don't think it has anything to do with Satan, because this is just a business where smart casino owners can take advantage of technological developments, and those who are trapped in gambling like they are addicted to gambling are those who are stupid because they believe in easy wins. obtained while they do not see that casinos are a business.

Basically, the person may have had a bad experience with gambling which is why he warned you about gambling. In some cases the results are hard to accept and such results may seem miraculous. But such superstitions have no basis because we cannot believe such superstitions in this present age. Gamblers gamble and the result goes against them due to their mistake or lack of luck, in which case the result is not considered a miracle at all or we should always avoid all these superstitions.

Hahaha...I can't stop laughing in Chinese here ;D I hope you thank the man eventually. That would be a polite thing to do. Frankly, he is right in a way whether you like it or not because in any avenue where money could be wasted, the devil could be a tool there just to punish someone and make his/her life miserable. So we should not totally disregard that, spiritual things are real even if we are either ignorant of them or do not care about them.

However, I will not go there further than that because many of these things they relate spirituality to are merely psychological things which can also be proven psychologically. We have different human natures, some are very weak and gullible, while some are very strong, smart and wise, it depends on the one in question that determines how they give in to gambling and also manage themselves and are cautious towards it.

In another aspect other than gambling, you see how some people exhibit folly that would have cost them so much if it were to be gambling or other serious affairs. So some people could be foolish and weak on their own and I so much expect such people to become miserable in the hands of gambling if they dare it instead of people always relating spirituality to it.

Just because we can't control our urges doesn't automatically mean a spirit is controlling us.

That's hilarious !! Isn't it disgusting to see people falling for their illusions and allowing it to control them. For me, that's just you being daft; Spiritually has nothing to do with real life event, trauma, games and sports, movies etc... You gotta be way too slow to avoid things that you should enjoy, simply because your religion prohibits it.. shitttt!

Exactly! When they begin to incure unnecessary losses, they blame them on things that doesn't even relate with the fact that they choosed on their own to indulge in gambling... How incoherent that sounds!

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Edit: Unless they change their mindset towards how they perceive things, they'd never be free from mental slavery

Superstitions may certainly exist in Sthanaveda but accepting those superstitions would certainly be foolish. If we arrive in 2024 and believe such superstitions, we must be fools. The person may have found something similar to the incident that led to the claim that miracles happen in gambling.

No, no, there's nothing crazy in that at all. Respecting the beliefs of others isn't a bad thing, in my opinion.  


Yep, I'm saying this all the time myself, because I want to help people to not lose a lot of their money in gambling. I mean, if their stake is $0.50 they can believe whatever they want and make that bet, but if it's more than they can earn in a week, their beliefs may hurt them.


In skill-based games it might boost their spirits and help them win, that's true.

The demon that manipulates people is the advantage of the casino or bookmaker, as well as the laws of the game that force us to make wrong decisions, lose our bankroll and ultimately lose. In general, it is not surprising that for this superstitious person, mathematical laws were transformed into obscure forces of nature, into evil demons. This is magical, archaic thinking. If you follow it, then you need to perform magical rituals before spinning roulette in a casino or betting on a football team to win. Previously, shamans used this way to cause rain.

In my religion, gambling is also strictly prohibited, and Satan's job is to trick us into gambling so that we are addicted or even Satan will lead us to shirk by believing in natural codes such as buying the lottery from dreams, or vehicle number plates from accidents and so on. makes us fall into things that are beyond logic. Even though we know, gambling games have a system or programmer so they have nothing to do with demons or anything supernatural.

However, whether we realize it or not, in modern times like this there are still many people who gamble, believe in things that are supernatural or related to natural codes to win a game, even though gambling games require mathematics, analysis and strategy to be able to win. I don't believe in superstition in gambling, but we can't deny that there are still many who believe in it, especially in lottery games.

Indeed, it's an archaic thought. And gamblers may not be able to maneuver the ways the casino work easily by using mathematical laws. Although, good mathematicians seems to know how dice works. But, in a slot machine, which may have been designed by advanced mathematicians, it'll only require lots of efforts to manipulate the results we get as players. However, the house actually should be the ones in possession of those laws and implements it on the machines.

But, while most of the demonic sense are diminishing in current eras it's probably not right to think of the casino as a game being controlled demonically. It only defines how lowly informed the man is, regarding gambling. The house edge has already been designed to be that way, and most gamblers are aware of this, so if the man in question knew about the house edge he wouldn't have been referring it as demons. Op would have corrected him, that it's the house edge causing the numerous losses not demons.

Shamans used this way to deceive people that they could make it rain. Or they were believing it themselves and thought when rain actually occurred after their rituals  that it was because of them. Same with gambling, since by chance anything can happen, sometimes those superstitious beliefs "work". Sometimes people think that lose because of demons, other times they think they win because of them. But in reality it's all random. No demons involved.

You know these superstitious beliefs is being passed on from generation to generation through words of mouth, and this is why I will not blame those gamblers who are still believes that such thing exists. I have a friend that woke up one morning and told me, he saw a number in his dream, and he went straight to the Lotto shop, but unfortunately he lost.

I don't believe such these are in scenarios where our luck is to decided our fate or is it that a computer can have a demon that will change your destiny. Sounds very funny, though. The algorithm software that casino uses is designed to favor the house that is just the secret.

I agree. There are things or beliefs that are just applied by one person to an event just so he could make his mistake look good from the point of view of others.

Let's say I lost $100 in gambling and I have not won any single round. I might say as a Catholic that it's because the devil is within the casino helping them out to make me lose when the reality is the house edge is what makes it all happen. It's just like what the man said on the OP. There might be a time he was a gambler too because I doubt he will go to that conclusion without even experiencing some losses in his past.

Well said. I personally do not believe in superstitious stories, I believe in the principle that everyone has a free choice, Fate, decision to decide and not necessarily influenced by any demonic or satanic stuffs, this is ridiculous how Satan will control someone to gamble and cause the loss of that person, so others who won weren't manipulated or we only loss when satan is involved, we need wash our brains and understand what gambling really is before we involve satan.

Gambling is a normal play that just got monetized to become a business for the owners and a source of joy and some sort of passive streams of income for others. Those
set of people that are superstitious with gambling  are the same set of people that think that almost everything is demonic including being a fan of a sports team or evening using the Internet is also demonic.

For as long as I know, gambling isn't something that's all that complex to understand that will make me factor out any sort of demonic trends into it. Instead of assuming that  gambling is demonic, I would rather think that borrowing is actually demonic as it's always deficult to pay back from someone you've borrowed from and maybe we could ascride such deficulty to mean that the person you borrowed the said money from could use strange power to stop you from being able to pay the money back as at when due

I see that happens to many people here and they related that supernatural with gambling. They believes that what they do with supernatural can helps them wins the gambling games.
But they don't know what the impact they gets from playing with supernatural. They can wins but not with supernatural because they luck comes in the right time so they thinks that they wins is because of they use supernatural thing.
We don't have to thinks about supernatural in gambling although some people still use supernatural when playing gambling. If we just wants to enjoy the gambling games, then we can playing gambling without thinks about the supernatural thing.

I don't believe in them myself, I feel like it's foolish to have such thoughts, like how in the world would you win more money on a specific day if you are not lucky or if you are not destined to win any? It's all dependent on your luck and destiny and you can't expect these things to change or be on your side on specific days or specific hours in a day, it doesn't work that way, you can get lucky any day, and the same is the principle for being unlucky.

So, whether it's about gambling or something else because people with superstitious beliefs would have the same sort of thoughts for everything. They would even have days decided for doing exercise or eating specific food and they only do them on those days and not in any other day. It's crazy, to be honest.

It happens,the superstitious believe about gambling is that since gambling is what people like,the enemy of a particular person can make him so addicted to gambling that there is no amount of money he will win from gambling that will be enough to settle his problem,he must always want to spend all of them for nothing,keep borrowing more when it finishes,and remain in debt because a spell has been kept on him.
While on the other hand, someone can borrow you money,and go fetish for you to be unable to pay the money in time so that when he will eventually ask you,it will be that the money has increased,and the debtor will be unable to pay,which will result in him giving out one of his landed properties to pay the person that borrowed him.

I live in Africa and here in Africa since I was born I have always heard stories of many people who went to witch doctors to have luck in life, I have always heard stories of people who went to witch doctors to earn a lot of money. If these people who went to witch doctors to make a lot of money or change their lives were successful, I honestly doubt very much that they really succeeded, but it is a fact that a good part of the people in my country, when they are in despair in life, they immediately They spend what little money they have left going to my country's wizards because they believe he will be able to fix their lives. For example, this is a photo of one of my country's wizards

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he is not a casino owner, there is little chance of him being a person who is involved in gambling, so anyone who thinks correctly will see that he is a liar, if he really had some power then he would be very rich, he He could match all the lottery tickets, he could match all the sports betting games. With that I'm saying that we shouldn't believe in nonsense things like superstition

        -   It depends on whether you believe what the person told you; if you believe what he said, for sure you will stop gambling. But in your story, you didn't believe what he said because you laughed, didn't you? But anyway, you can just ignore what he mentioned.

Maybe it can be said that some gamblers become bad because of gambling, but there are others who do not become bad despite the fact that they gamble. So, that means it depends on us if we become bad because of gambling.

The moderate view is that everything that may arise from gambling will depend on how we respond and react, if someone has the conclusion that the winnings are manipulated and leaves it all to the casino owner who owns the winnings and whatever it becomes like real and superstitious.
But we have to find out how the house performs against us? Is it really controlled? or is it just a random calculation so that luck can be created in gambling without any third party to get it.

Believe it or not this is indeed back to each one, the good and bad effects also depend on the gambler who does it.

I mostly agree with your point of view and I was aware there is a very strong belief in Africa with comes to witch doctors, spiritual healing and other things which have sound like Mumbo Jumbo to many of us. Though, There is something interesting I read about in one of those little books/maganizes the Jehova Witnesses usually like to spread around for people to follow their church.
That specific versión of the magazine has an story about a young girl from the United States who apparently had the power to see the future of others on the short and mid term. She started to use that ability to make predictions for fun, with her friends, telling them what was going to happen to them the next day, quite mundane things, like whether they were going to get some extra money from their parents, or get their car broken down. However, in the story she was unable to see her own future not even a single day ahead, only the future of others.

The story concludes that she stopped doing those things after understanding with the help of the Jehova witnesses that she was getting information from fallen angels.

Perhaps, a similar is what goes own with those witch doctors and healers from Africa? What do you think?

Yes, this is true on which not all things we do have in mind would really be something that be conclusive or could really be applied to all. Perceptions and views would really be that different to each other but it cant really be denied that when it comes to gamblimg impressions and views on which it would really be biased on the negative side on which its not really that surprising. Believing others words? It would really be just that depending on you because we do have our own will and thinking about various things on which it would really be that so impossible that you would really be just that simply agreeing on what others been saying and you would really be tending to make yourself that completely stop just because you had believe that gambling is bad or something that will really be affecting you negatively.

When it comes to gambling then it isnt really that bad, as long you arent that compromising something then you should really be just that fine. It is really just that there are really individuals
who would really be going into certain extents and this is why they do really end up on a disaster.

I don't see any room for prejudice against gambling in today's technological age. Gambling is a game where gamblers predict their own wins and losses. Gambling sites have many games and they are made very difficult so that gamblers cannot win them easily. You can win up to 2x-1000x more if you gamble. Do you think it should be very easy to become such a win in moments?  So before going to gamble you must be careful and accept these risks and then start gambling. There should be no superstition in gambling. If he loses in gambling, he should understand that it is his misfortune and he should accept the responsibility with a smile.

It's true that people will always have diverse opinions about gambling, but yet that doesn't make gambling an evil act, as it's just a mere business which involves trying of luck. Hence, if you see people speak so bad about gambling, it's literally a sign maybe they might have lost huge sum to gambling or either knows someone who lost huge sum to gambling. Gambling is not a sin, and can never be an act of demonic manipulation, it's just business, and the earlier these people understand it this way as the primarily aim/concept of gambling, the better for them, because the probability of the casino winning is always higher than that of the gambler, which is why if you lucky enough to win, you could get paid over a $10,000 by simply betting with ordinary $5 to $10.

We all have different opinions about gambling and it's important follow our own not minding what other people think because that could have serious effects on us as gamblers if we keep thinking about other people's opinions. We have to get motivated and keep working and creating a better strategies that would always be profitable with high winning ratio compared to losses. Planning and executing are the things that would would trigger us to make money as gambler not minding or bothering oneself about what other gamblers think about us. The concentration should be to make money because that is the major reasons why we all are working.

Do you think that the concentration is to make money in gambling? that's actually not recommendable if that's what you're talking about. But, on the other hand, gamblers are meant to concentrate mostly on the business which actually yields them money. What people think about gambling and us the players doesn't have much impact on what the casino tends to provide for players as results. It could be win or its opposite.

Nothing actually beats being open towards non gambler's expression and questions about us. A lot of them would learn via this medium and the perspective they have the player would change immediately. Isn't it why we read and learn about gambling, to teach others and change their perspective. When we allow false thoughts flow within non gamblers it opens a threat to the players to always accept they're doing the wrong thing.

I am equally an African and we also have witch doctors in  My country. So I can tell you that people with super powers have boundaries to what they reveal, they may have powers to predict a game and win in gambling, but there a risk and task regarding witch prediction, and if you don't have the mind to take the risk then you can not be granted what you seak. That is to tell you that nothing good comes so easy  the witch doctors are not exempted in the task of using vudu to generate a betting code, but they chose not to, because they want to leave longer. Anything that involves making excessive money with vudu, be it gambling or whatsoever all are money ritual. That is why they chose not to use such power to become rich because of the side effect of it.

Your story OP sounds funny to me,but I can say that the man  is looking for a means to actually stop people from gambling,and he knows if he goes directly to tell you normally that it isn't good,you won't listen to him,so him involving Satan and saying it's the devil that directs the casino so that people will lose is just a way to scare you.
If I were you,or I were to be in that bus,I will ask him if he had seen the devil himself,or why he felt it is the devil that controls it.To me,I don't see any satanism in gambling,people who are lucky often wins,and the unlucky people loses,there is no superstitiousness in the business of gambling,it is purely on luck.

Casinos are not making people addicts it is just the people who abuse gambling in the wrong way and then try to blame the system instead of taking responsibility. This stranger from the bus had the wrong influence or confused himself with religious beliefs and conspiracy theories spread around the internet and created his version of why gambling is bad.

It's like demons have no other job than looking for people who open their app and make bet. :P

There is no doubt that the casino and the bookies (in case you are betting) will earn more than the gamblers but there is no truth that demons helping the casino owners. The model and algorithm of gambling (including the house edge) are designed in a way that it will favour the casino more than the end user (the gambler).

Some people have superstitious beliefs and therefore they are relating the edge of the casino as a divine help, while actually it is not. Gamblers already know that casino owners are at the advantage, however, if the gamblers play sensibly and responsibly they could also make money out of it (and demons help the gamblers too  ;))

We should really be thinking up on this way on which its true that casinos arent make or existing for making people that addicted, it is really just that peoples actions are the ones made them able to experience those worst conditions because of addiction and this is something that they should really be that trying out to realize and not everything should really be blamed into casino platforms but rather into your own self.

Applying any superstitious beliefs would really be just that depending into someones preference yet each person does have their own thinking and belief into things. If they are get used to on following
those things since from the start then they would really be that definitely be doing it until the end not unless they would really be making up those realizations that it isnt always something that you could
really be able to rely on when it comes to gambling results. This is why it would really be always best that you should really know on what you are dealing with.

Very funny to hear all this, the devil this and that, avoid this and that or you belong to the devil. People should learn to understand that everyone of us are different, what I would prefer doing might be completely different from what the next person might find interest doing. Gambling is not satanic, it only has an intense disadvantages when in the hands of those who do not follow the basic restrictions and eventually get addicted then you see how hard life becomes for these people giving the gambling haters enough reason to point fingers as the suffering coming from the devil instead of mismanagement of gambling habits.

The evil tempts humankind since the early times, as we can see on the stories and teachings which have been told to us by our ancestors and which are intrinsic to our societies and cultures, doesn't matter where you are from, as it's common to all of us.

Naturally, the desire and pursue for money is directly related to that temptation, which turns mankind into greedy individuals who lose control over their principles and values, so they can achieve material wealth and become more important and influent among their pairs. We don't know exactly from where such temptations come from, how they take control of us, and why some individuals are stronger than others when resisting to them.

But we can't deny it doesn't happen or doesn't exist. However, it's not possible to say demons manipulate the bets' results on the favour of the casino, because we know there is factor called house edge, which gives a mathematical advantage to the casinos on long run. That is why they profit and gamblers lose.

We don't know where the guy was coming from. It may be his new religion or previous bad experience in gambling. But if you are a responsible gambler, you don't need to worry about people having giving such piece of advice. You know your limits and you are not stepping anyone's toes.

Every individual has their own beliefs in life. We all just need respect when it comes to this aspect. We don't need to force anyone to follow our faith in something. It is better to give some guidance to other people if they ask it from you. Otherwise, it is none of our business to poke someone else's life.

That factor "house edge" is what the passenger points as the demon. lol. It's misinformation that led to it, he needed to be educated on how gambling works. While people try to let gamblers see the game in a false view, being countervailing could be the case. Because the gambler also wouldn't accept whatever a non gambler has to say, in an unpleasant manner. Hence, gamblers who get to associate with free speech non gamblers who wish to air out their critic on gambling, they should engage them as well and not feel stigmatized. This will not only help the player, but the non gambler would be learning something new. The risky aspect of it, is that the non gambler can become a gambler and may not be opportune to have indebt knowledge of gambling.

That is the man's believe and not my believe, gambling is not satanic if only you know what you are doing that is doing it right with your habit towards gambling, I completely agree with you that the man has lost so much for him to have come up so such conclusions about gambling being satanic. However, so far people that win are being paid I don't think if there is anything wrong with it perhaps no body has ever been forced to gamble it has always been a deliberate action or activity which is meant to be considered to be for a fun, gambling becomes problematic if only focused are made on maximizing profits which of course has no guarantee, it is either you win or loss.

I understand your perspective. However let's not forget the fact that everyone has freedom to air their beliefs. Beliefs about demons and superstitions vary from individual to individual, also keeping in mind that mathematical approach  and some level of experience can be more effective in understanding and addressing issues concerning gambling. Focusing on mathematical analysis and probability especially for games that involves calculation , can provide a more reliable and evidence compared to believing in superstitions.
However, it's also important to remember that beliefs and superstitions can havrr its impact on people's lives and behaviors, even if they may not have concrete evidence.

Actually for me, since it takes personal conviction without being persuaded to gamble I would never say gambling is satanic or demonic but however, this aspect of borrowing money and not being able to pay as when due is very real in my countryside where most people uses dark power to torment those they borrowed money not to be able to pay back as when due in order to have multiples of interest making it very difficult for the borrower to pay back untimely where I don't think if  such manipulations are  possible in gambling where you can not be denied your winning payment whenever you have a potential winning.

Gambling is an entertainment. If people related to satanic or demon, that will be up to them because that will depends on their perspective. If they still related gambling to superstitious believe, we can not do anything because they will not accept of what other people will say. They will still use something superstitious that they believe because they wants to wins in gambling using that way.

Borrowing money from other people will not be a demonic because that is not related to the dark side. Perhaps, that person needs money to fills his daily needs so he decides to borrow money. He knows that he must repay his loan so he will gets that money to gives back to the lender.

Actually, at first I didn't believe in mystical things, but nowadays there is a lot of competition, making business people do many things to make their business run smoothly and there are lots of enthusiasts, even food and goods businesses also do mystical things so that their merchandise can sell well and taste good and attract customers. feel satisfied and come back again, maybe the same thing is done by casino owners so that their business runs smoothly and manipulates their victims even though sometimes gambling is a game of luck, I also see that sometimes people are easily tempted by gambling and it can make someone addicted but if they have strong beliefs and a person's full responsibility will not be addicted to gambling.

The house always benefits somehow I believe that gambling can be manipulated, for example the result can be winning but in the end we lose the bet, we should gamble just for fun and don't think about making money because every business always benefits the house, we won't be able to fooling gambling no matter how great our skills are because cooperation with the devil is true in today's world even though we cannot see it directly.

In general, it is our way of gambling and we don't care what other gamblers are doing because what we aim for is to win and make fun. If they got lucky, they would praise their gods more but if they went unlucky, they might blame it. And they don't have reasons as well to blame people around them if they lose. It is all about respect and we know that they are doing what they think is right, some religious people are in trust of their gods not only for gambling but for other things. And we never know if other gamblers will follow them when they win.
That is why I don't say anything bad to them. We can be a gambler and win in any way as long as it is not in the way of cheating.

We are here for what exactly? We're here for the main profits. Gambling should be very important and stable but there's always something to ascertain about. Blaming the system will not solve the matter, either way the best technique is simply accepting our mistakes and worked in improvement because there's more to accumulate in the system.

That's just a superstition, if what that old man was saying to you is real, the devil would've shown itself to you the moment that you've started to gamble, it's just a way to scare people into not doing what their scripture thinks isn't the right thing to do, that's how I see things when it comes to prohibitions that have a religious influence, it's not right and at the same time some of them aren't really that bad thing to be doing especially in this topic, gambling. What I mean is how can someone actually have their soul's get burned in eternal flame in hell just because they want to have fun? How come there's things that aren't exactly immoral thing that's being prohibited like, what's the point of doing that? It's not stopping people anyway, what they're doing is making things much stricter than it should be or should I dare say, make life even more boring.

The system has enough meaningful things to accumulate from players including their money. Don't know for sure what actually gamblers have to accumulate from the casino except for financial and time management. That's for players who are interested in receiving such skills through gambling. The man in the story may have been a victim of lots of losses and ended up leaving the system with nothing. Thereby his motive is convincing more people to think like he does. It's fine hearing the insights of non-gamblers or quitters and how strange and funny it sounds. I noticed that their conversations about gambling is influenced by their previous gambling experience.

Well said. An activity that influence a person negatively doesn't necessarily mean it's satanic. Because anyone can gamble and its effect will depend on what kind of player you are. Those who don't have self-control will likely fall to becoming addicted for not having discipline and probably with a main desire of earning money. While those who are playing for fun using their spare money won't end up getting rekt because they are aware how gambling works.

We're giving advice often based on our experience and that's understandable, but we have different way on how to handle such situation hence if you became addicted, it doesn't mean other gamblers will become addicted too.

It's easier and more convenient for people to blame others, circumstances, devil, demons and the universe for their mistakes and wrong decisions. The old man in the story was probably an irresponsible gambler or an addicted gambler, so it was easier for him to blame the devil and demons for his failures in gambling. We should know that we're responsible for our actions and neither God or devil can make our decisions for us, so people should stop blaming devil and demons when they lose in gambling because they're the ones that chooses to gamble, knowing that they can either win or lose. The assumption that gambling is from the devil or inspired by him is baseless, just like some people in my country will tell you that very rich people are in secret societies and it's devil that gives them riches, they're all assumptions of the poor..

Those people that think in such way are only exaggerating and just like you stated, they end up with such mentality probably because of their past experience in gambling. If they really got addicted and lost everything, they would think it was the manipulation of the devil that cost it and therefore may believe that gambling demonic. I agree with what you said. Those that stopped gambling because of how bad it turned out for them usually wants to discourage others too.

Hey man, whatever makes us sleep at night. Clearly this guy's either saying the truth (about his experience, not about the nature of gambling) or he's trying to persuade you from quitting gambling, and while normally I would appreciate people helping me control my gambling urges I do not appreciate it when I'm being scolded like that lol. Like what the fuck do you care about how I spend my money or how much I gamble, and who are you even?

In any case, No, that's just superstition created to better cope with losing so much money on gambling, instead of taking accountability and blaming himself, which thereby would allow him to see his mistakes and therefore become a better person, he created a belief system that specifically takes the brunt of the burden of dealing with gambling consequences for him.

Well, this is true because it's part of the human nature to look for someone or something to blame with the action they made which does not turn on their favor. Specifically in gambling, they even come to the point just like you said, creating a belief to put the blame on that belief and make themselves more comfortable and bring back their confidence due to the negative experience they got in gambling.

I laugh when someone who is already a real gambling addict says something that doesn't make sense.
Scapegoating the devil is the cause of his defeat, even though the devil itself is his own state, where he becomes uncontrollable and too greedy and addicted to gambling.

No control, no management and no self-evaluation, it will only result in misdirection and a mental that will be slightly disturbed.
In his subconscious he said that the defeat occurred because of the fault of the devil or the devil who whispered it.

This is how importance of having a personal accountability of each action they have done. So that they will not blame to anything or anyone on what losses they encounter. Then instead of talking about nonsense thing and use superstitious belief as the reason on what they experience maybe its more better if they comeback stronger, also became a reasonable gambler which all the actions and decision do is base on what studies they have done.

Also people need to start separating anything related to superstitious belief and they should focus on how to gather skills so that they can make their gaming more entertaining also possibly give them more higher chance to win especially if they became skilled player.

The thing is that some people usually want someone to blame for their ignorance, lack of discipline, and weak decisions. It is only someone who has not been in the system that will believe what they say. I was in church one day when our pastor was passing a sermon, and then he talked about gambling and addiction. He never said that gambling was demonic, but rather that gamblers allow themselves to be dealt with by greed and a lack of self-discipline and self control, which is why they become addicted and blame the devil at last for their own ignorance. There are also some pastors who would support the argument that gambling is demonic while it's not.

Becoming skilled player isn't an easy thing to a gambler that expects only lucky charms from misleading beliefs, that's one of the reason why there's no concrete development of each personal skills. If ever there's a quick strategy to make certain possibility of acquiring specific skills, we need to master and focus on a betting game that a gambler prefers to have. Most people only view it as fun and easy steps but in reality losses happen and it became unstoppable if not managed in a right process.

This is usually the case, looking for someone else to teach them when they first started playing and blaming him for why he could always lose.
For some reason, someone who is too attached to gambling always seeks venting on other people or even invisible creatures as the cause of all these defeats.
And even that makes him satisfied and not through his own fault.

Such sermons only discriminate on platforms that actually do not need to be debated or blamed, because it is clear what the risks of gambling are.
The problem is the player, why do they have to go in and play if in the end they are not prepared to accept the reality when they lose.
They only judge one point of view, not with a broader point of view.

I will say that not only in Africa, but anywhere in the world, in Asia, in Europe, in America, you can find people who hold such beliefs. I'd say it's because we are genetically accustomed to that. Throughout the centuries people were using summat similar to witch doctors to try to improve their luck, and it is the case even today and even in the most developed countries.


Why? I personally have no doubt that some of them succeeded. But it's a mistake to think that they succeeded because of the help of witch doctors. Rather, they succeeded because of a lucky turn of events with which the witch doctors had absolutely nothing to do with.

They will not wins easily even if they use lucky charms because gambling is unpredicted and we don't knows what is the outcomes. We can wins but we can also lose easily in gambling so we don't have to depends on superstitious things to wins the gambling games but we can try to enjoy the gambling games so we can relax ourselves in gambling in our spare time.

But if they have skills in certain gambling games, they may have more chance to wins but that depends on how their opposite skills because if their opposite have a high skills, we will difficult to wins the games. We can lets those people with their superstitious things that they used when they playing gambling because they believe they can wins the games using that way and we can't changes them.

It's what is meant to be expected of such gamblers. Harnessing a sad end after a gambling journey is an occurrence that leaves the gambler in a tough mental condition, after many years of participating in gambling. That's why they'll never let it go when a gambler opens his gambling display screen in their presence. I think they also need therapy and help regarding this attitude. As it leaves them in a long term pain. Gambling would continue regardless of their thoughts and whatever they think is the right word for housing edge. Nobody was pushed to consider gambling without their notifications on ways gambling could affect them. If not done the right way.

You are right, bro; I can actually relate to what you are saying. It makes me remember a quote that says, "If you have been burned by fire before, you will be extremely cautious to get warmth from the fire when you are cold." Someone who has had a rough and ugly incident with gambling may not talk good thing about gambling again, probably because of the pain it has caused them. No one forced anybody to gamble, and in no way is gambling the only problem here; they themselves also contributed to their problem.

It's incredible that in developed countries there are people who are carried away by this type of beliefs. Personally, I know something about these things, but not because I have studied them. It's like those gifts that we sometimes have naturally, and I can say with certainty that if you make promises based on things you can make a profit, but the price you have to pay is very expensive in the end, so it's something I don't recommend, because I've seen people who emerge and then fall into an abyss from which no one can get them out.

If you believe in superstitious things, I think it's by levels. There are some who pay witches or people like that and they don't get anything, but it depends on what they work on, but generally when they get into very bad things, demonic style, things change.

Anything that is abused is wrong. That's why people are calling it an evil habit because there are those who abused it and never recovered. It's not far from drugs and alcohol where people becomes addicted to and was not able to stop it anymore without the help of a rehabilitation or a therapist.
What the man said was only right when he identifies the gambler who is addicted to it. But to just gamble looking for a bit of fun to get away from boredom is not evil at all. It's an escape from doing nothing the whole day especially those who want to take a rest and enjoy their weekends.

One of the reasons why addiction is called a very bad situation is because it is a phase where a person continues to do various actions that tend to be excessive which all lead them to a much worse impact, which in addition yes as you said that another problem is that addiction is a disease that is really difficult to cure, even if for example a gambler can recover from addiction but surely they have experienced some bad effects.

I think that choosing gambling as an activity that is done with the aim of finding entertainment when you have boring free time is indeed nothing wrong, or any activity, even more dangerous, everything will still be fine if basically a gambler knows and understands the level of risk and makes various decisions that do not exceed his limits.

Though you have to be wise about it, gambling may be entertaining. Like all else in life, know your limitations. Dont bet the farm, dont get carried away. The problem is, sometimes people lose sight of that. Family comes in here at that. Your basis and anchor is a solid family. They help you to stay rooted. They alert you to your approaching too deep depth.

But pay close attention; its more than just fixing the issue. Its more about stopping it. Speak with your relatives. Inform them of the risks. Verify that everyone understands what is happening. Trust me; when gaming consumes one, it may ruin lives and relationships. Have fun, then, but be sensible. Manage it carefully. Remember that family comes first. You will be just fine if you do that.

Yes that's the point, don't ever try to take actions that are beyond your means, everyone has different limits, especially when it comes to spending money, and it's a fact that everyone doesn't like to lose, especially not by a significant amount. That's why we always recommend that you never try to make decisions that are beyond your means. I understand that gambling provides opportunities, but we must also be aware of the possibility of risks that cannot be tolerated, meaning that the opportunities and risks are 50 - 50.

On the other hand, I firmly believe that gamblers who can feel entertainment and enjoyment in gambling are those who understand the opportunities but also realize the risks where their minds are not too focused on winning because they realize the risks that cannot be tolerated, so the point is that by realizing and knowing about what you are doing, you will most likely have no difficulty in applying various precautions such as caution or being wise and others.

Totally agree with you even though gamblers have amulets and carry them when gambling, it is not certain that they will immediately win easily, such as in lottery gambling, gamblers look for amulets in the cemetery area in order to get a beautiful number that will be used in lottery gambling the next day. Then what will happen the next day, the number they put in may not match the number issued by the bookie and this experience should be used to make them aware of the wrong perception with myths that are still very doubtful in their results.

Some gamblers can carry the amulets when they playing gambling but that can not disturb other gamblers in gambling because that maybe makes some gamblers feels that is not right to do. They must not say about what they do to other gamblers so they can still use the amulets while they playing gambling.

Some gamblers still believes about that superstitious so they will search for the ways to have that things so they can carry when they playing gambling. They must realizes that things can not helps them to wins in gambling games, especially in lottery because that games will depends on their luck to wins. If they can wins the games, that doesn't mean their amulets or something like that helps them but that is because their luck comes to them.

When I started gambling earlier, I believed in the power of amulets and so on, but time has shown that it is completely dishonest, at least for me. But I tried to believe that they would bring good luck, in general it looked very funny at that moment, I believed and begged to win the bet using the power of the amulet, but the bet lost. After several such events, I did not go looking for a new amulet, but simply realized that it was all nonsense, and luck itself decides who to choose as the winner.

As for the OP’s story, it’s really creepy, probably the man was right, because some people addicted to the game will be forced to do things that they would never do in their life and this sometimes causes fear in me.

Of course it looks like a mystical story that sends shivers down my spine. It was probably not a real man, but just your imagination, which warned you about the danger specifically for you if you continue to play. If I were the OP, I would stop and not play, at least for a while to think about everything. Not every player will be given a warning from higher powers, as happened with you. I have heard such stories before, I will not mock them because these are actually serious things and not attaching importance to them would be a big mistake. I recommend that everyone be aware of this situation, especially those who have had this happen to them, and learn more online about this topic.