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June 17, 2024, 01:19:23 PM
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In any case, No, that's just superstition created to better cope with losing so much money on gambling, instead of taking accountability and blaming himself, which thereby would allow him to see his mistakes and therefore become a better person, he created a belief system that specifically takes the brunt of the burden of dealing with gambling consequences for him.
Well, this is true because it's part of the human nature to look for someone or something to blame with the action they made which does not turn on their favor. Specifically in gambling, they even come to the point just like you said, creating a belief to put the blame on that belief and make themselves more comfortable and bring back their confidence due to the negative experience they got in gambling.

This is how importance of having a personal accountability of each action they have done. So that they will not blame to anything or anyone on what losses they encounter. Then instead of talking about nonsense thing and use superstitious belief as the reason on what they experience maybe its more better if they comeback stronger, also became a reasonable gambler which all the actions and decision do is base on what studies they have done.

Also people need to start separating anything related to superstitious belief and they should focus on how to gather skills so that they can make their gaming more entertaining also possibly give them more higher chance to win especially if they became skilled player.

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June 17, 2024, 02:27:44 PM
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If they really got addicted and lost everything, they would think it was the manipulation of the devil that cost it and therefore may believe that gambling demonic. I agree with what you said. Those that stopped gambling because of how bad it turned out for them usually wants to discourage others too.
I laugh when someone who is already a real gambling addict says something that doesn't make sense.
Scapegoating the devil is the cause of his defeat, even though the devil itself is his own state, where he becomes uncontrollable and too greedy and addicted to gambling.

No control, no management and no self-evaluation, it will only result in misdirection and a mental that will be slightly disturbed.
In his subconscious he said that the defeat occurred because of the fault of the devil or the devil who whispered it.

The thing is that some people usually want someone to blame for their ignorance, lack of discipline, and weak decisions. It is only someone who has not been in the system that will believe what they say. I was in church one day when our pastor was passing a sermon, and then he talked about gambling and addiction. He never said that gambling was demonic, but rather that gamblers allow themselves to be dealt with by greed and a lack of self-discipline and self control, which is why they become addicted and blame the devil at last for their own ignorance. There are also some pastors who would support the argument that gambling is demonic while it's not.

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June 17, 2024, 02:50:15 PM
 #203

In any case, No, that's just superstition created to better cope with losing so much money on gambling, instead of taking accountability and blaming himself, which thereby would allow him to see his mistakes and therefore become a better person, he created a belief system that specifically takes the brunt of the burden of dealing with gambling consequences for him.
Well, this is true because it's part of the human nature to look for someone or something to blame with the action they made which does not turn on their favor. Specifically in gambling, they even come to the point just like you said, creating a belief to put the blame on that belief and make themselves more comfortable and bring back their confidence due to the negative experience they got in gambling.

This is how importance of having a personal accountability of each action they have done. So that they will not blame to anything or anyone on what losses they encounter. Then instead of talking about nonsense thing and use superstitious belief as the reason on what they experience maybe its more better if they comeback stronger, also became a reasonable gambler which all the actions and decision do is base on what studies they have done.

Also people need to start separating anything related to superstitious belief and they should focus on how to gather skills so that they can make their gaming more entertaining also possibly give them more higher chance to win especially if they became skilled player.

Becoming skilled player isn't an easy thing to a gambler that expects only lucky charms from misleading beliefs, that's one of the reason why there's no concrete development of each personal skills. If ever there's a quick strategy to make certain possibility of acquiring specific skills, we need to master and focus on a betting game that a gambler prefers to have. Most people only view it as fun and easy steps but in reality losses happen and it became unstoppable if not managed in a right process.

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June 17, 2024, 03:36:51 PM
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The thing is that some people usually want someone to blame for their ignorance, lack of discipline, and weak decisions. It is only someone who has not been in the system that will believe what they say.
This is usually the case, looking for someone else to teach them when they first started playing and blaming him for why he could always lose.
For some reason, someone who is too attached to gambling always seeks venting on other people or even invisible creatures as the cause of all these defeats.
And even that makes him satisfied and not through his own fault.

I was in church one day when our pastor was passing a sermon, and then he talked about gambling and addiction. He never said that gambling was demonic, but rather that gamblers allow themselves to be dealt with by greed and a lack of self-discipline and self control, which is why they become addicted and blame the devil at last for their own ignorance. There are also some pastors who would support the argument that gambling is demonic while it's not.
Such sermons only discriminate on platforms that actually do not need to be debated or blamed, because it is clear what the risks of gambling are.
The problem is the player, why do they have to go in and play if in the end they are not prepared to accept the reality when they lose.
They only judge one point of view, not with a broader point of view.

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June 20, 2024, 08:30:04 AM
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I live in Africa and here in Africa since I was born I have always heard stories of many people who went to witch doctors to have luck in life, I have always heard stories of people who went to witch doctors to earn a lot of money.

I will say that not only in Africa, but anywhere in the world, in Asia, in Europe, in America, you can find people who hold such beliefs. I'd say it's because we are genetically accustomed to that. Throughout the centuries people were using summat similar to witch doctors to try to improve their luck, and it is the case even today and even in the most developed countries.

If these people who went to witch doctors to make a lot of money or change their lives were successful, I honestly doubt very much that they really succeeded,

Why? I personally have no doubt that some of them succeeded. But it's a mistake to think that they succeeded because of the help of witch doctors. Rather, they succeeded because of a lucky turn of events with which the witch doctors had absolutely nothing to do with.

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June 20, 2024, 12:54:22 PM
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Becoming skilled player isn't an easy thing to a gambler that expects only lucky charms from misleading beliefs, that's one of the reason why there's no concrete development of each personal skills. If ever there's a quick strategy to make certain possibility of acquiring specific skills, we need to master and focus on a betting game that a gambler prefers to have. Most people only view it as fun and easy steps but in reality losses happen and it became unstoppable if not managed in a right process.
They will not wins easily even if they use lucky charms because gambling is unpredicted and we don't knows what is the outcomes. We can wins but we can also lose easily in gambling so we don't have to depends on superstitious things to wins the gambling games but we can try to enjoy the gambling games so we can relax ourselves in gambling in our spare time.

But if they have skills in certain gambling games, they may have more chance to wins but that depends on how their opposite skills because if their opposite have a high skills, we will difficult to wins the games. We can lets those people with their superstitious things that they used when they playing gambling because they believe they can wins the games using that way and we can't changes them.

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June 20, 2024, 01:29:53 PM
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The system has enough meaningful things to accumulate from players including their money. Don't know for sure what actually gamblers have to accumulate from the casino except for financial and time management. That's for players who are interested in receiving such skills through gambling. The man in the story may have been a victim of lots of losses and ended up leaving the system with nothing. Thereby his motive is convincing more people to think like he does. It's fine hearing the insights of non-gamblers or quitters and how strange and funny it sounds. I noticed that their conversations about gambling is influenced by their previous gambling experience.

Those people that think in such way are only exaggerating and just like you stated, they end up with such mentality probably because of their past experience in gambling. If they really got addicted and lost everything, they would think it was the manipulation of the devil that cost it and therefore may believe that gambling demonic. I agree with what you said. Those that stopped gambling because of how bad it turned out for them usually wants to discourage others too.

It's what is meant to be expected of such gamblers. Harnessing a sad end after a gambling journey is an occurrence that leaves the gambler in a tough mental condition, after many years of participating in gambling. That's why they'll never let it go when a gambler opens his gambling display screen in their presence. I think they also need therapy and help regarding this attitude. As it leaves them in a long term pain. Gambling would continue regardless of their thoughts and whatever they think is the right word for housing edge. Nobody was pushed to consider gambling without their notifications on ways gambling could affect them. If not done the right way.

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June 22, 2024, 12:22:25 PM
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The system has enough meaningful things to accumulate from players including their money. Don't know for sure what actually gamblers have to accumulate from the casino except for financial and time management. That's for players who are interested in receiving such skills through gambling. The man in the story may have been a victim of lots of losses and ended up leaving the system with nothing. Thereby his motive is convincing more people to think like he does. It's fine hearing the insights of non-gamblers or quitters and how strange and funny it sounds. I noticed that their conversations about gambling is influenced by their previous gambling experience.

Those people that think in such way are only exaggerating and just like you stated, they end up with such mentality probably because of their past experience in gambling. If they really got addicted and lost everything, they would think it was the manipulation of the devil that cost it and therefore may believe that gambling demonic. I agree with what you said. Those that stopped gambling because of how bad it turned out for them usually wants to discourage others too.

It's what is meant to be expected of such gamblers. Harnessing a sad end after a gambling journey is an occurrence that leaves the gambler in a tough mental condition, after many years of participating in gambling. That's why they'll never let it go when a gambler opens his gambling display screen in their presence. I think they also need therapy and help regarding this attitude. As it leaves them in a long term pain. Gambling would continue regardless of their thoughts and whatever they think is the right word for housing edge. Nobody was pushed to consider gambling without their notifications on ways gambling could affect them. If not done the right way.

You are right, bro; I can actually relate to what you are saying. It makes me remember a quote that says, "If you have been burned by fire before, you will be extremely cautious to get warmth from the fire when you are cold." Someone who has had a rough and ugly incident with gambling may not talk good thing about gambling again, probably because of the pain it has caused them. No one forced anybody to gamble, and in no way is gambling the only problem here; they themselves also contributed to their problem.

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June 24, 2024, 12:09:47 AM
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I live in Africa and here in Africa since I was born I have always heard stories of many people who went to witch doctors to have luck in life, I have always heard stories of people who went to witch doctors to earn a lot of money.

I will say that not only in Africa, but anywhere in the world, in Asia, in Europe, in America, you can find people who hold such beliefs. I'd say it's because we are genetically accustomed to that. Throughout the centuries people were using summat similar to witch doctors to try to improve their luck, and it is the case even today and even in the most developed countries.

If these people who went to witch doctors to make a lot of money or change their lives were successful, I honestly doubt very much that they really succeeded,

Why? I personally have no doubt that some of them succeeded. But it's a mistake to think that they succeeded because of the help of witch doctors. Rather, they succeeded because of a lucky turn of events with which the witch doctors had absolutely nothing to do with.

It's incredible that in developed countries there are people who are carried away by this type of beliefs. Personally, I know something about these things, but not because I have studied them. It's like those gifts that we sometimes have naturally, and I can say with certainty that if you make promises based on things you can make a profit, but the price you have to pay is very expensive in the end, so it's something I don't recommend, because I've seen people who emerge and then fall into an abyss from which no one can get them out.

If you believe in superstitious things, I think it's by levels. There are some who pay witches or people like that and they don't get anything, but it depends on what they work on, but generally when they get into very bad things, demonic style, things change.

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June 24, 2024, 01:42:50 AM
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Anything that is abused is wrong. That's why people are calling it an evil habit because there are those who abused it and never recovered. It's not far from drugs and alcohol where people becomes addicted to and was not able to stop it anymore without the help of a rehabilitation or a therapist.
What the man said was only right when he identifies the gambler who is addicted to it. But to just gamble looking for a bit of fun to get away from boredom is not evil at all. It's an escape from doing nothing the whole day especially those who want to take a rest and enjoy their weekends.
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June 24, 2024, 01:59:14 AM
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Anything that is abused is wrong. That's why people are calling it an evil habit because there are those who abused it and never recovered. It's not far from drugs and alcohol where people becomes addicted to and was not able to stop it anymore without the help of a rehabilitation or a therapist.
What the man said was only right when he identifies the gambler who is addicted to it. But to just gamble looking for a bit of fun to get away from boredom is not evil at all. It's an escape from doing nothing the whole day especially those who want to take a rest and enjoy their weekends.

One of the reasons why addiction is called a very bad situation is because it is a phase where a person continues to do various actions that tend to be excessive which all lead them to a much worse impact, which in addition yes as you said that another problem is that addiction is a disease that is really difficult to cure, even if for example a gambler can recover from addiction but surely they have experienced some bad effects.

I think that choosing gambling as an activity that is done with the aim of finding entertainment when you have boring free time is indeed nothing wrong, or any activity, even more dangerous, everything will still be fine if basically a gambler knows and understands the level of risk and makes various decisions that do not exceed his limits.

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June 24, 2024, 12:20:11 PM
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Anything that is abused is wrong. That's why people are calling it an evil habit because there are those who abused it and never recovered. It's not far from drugs and alcohol where people becomes addicted to and was not able to stop it anymore without the help of a rehabilitation or a therapist.
What the man said was only right when he identifies the gambler who is addicted to it. But to just gamble looking for a bit of fun to get away from boredom is not evil at all. It's an escape from doing nothing the whole day especially those who want to take a rest and enjoy their weekends.

One of the reasons why addiction is called a very bad situation is because it is a phase where a person continues to do various actions that tend to be excessive which all lead them to a much worse impact, which in addition yes as you said that another problem is that addiction is a disease that is really difficult to cure, even if for example a gambler can recover from addiction but surely they have experienced some bad effects.

I think that choosing gambling as an activity that is done with the aim of finding entertainment when you have boring free time is indeed nothing wrong, or any activity, even more dangerous, everything will still be fine if basically a gambler knows and understands the level of risk and makes various decisions that do not exceed his limits.
Though you have to be wise about it, gambling may be entertaining. Like all else in life, know your limitations. Dont bet the farm, dont get carried away. The problem is, sometimes people lose sight of that. Family comes in here at that. Your basis and anchor is a solid family. They help you to stay rooted. They alert you to your approaching too deep depth.

But pay close attention; its more than just fixing the issue. Its more about stopping it. Speak with your relatives. Inform them of the risks. Verify that everyone understands what is happening. Trust me; when gaming consumes one, it may ruin lives and relationships. Have fun, then, but be sensible. Manage it carefully. Remember that family comes first. You will be just fine if you do that.

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June 25, 2024, 11:31:57 AM
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One of the reasons why addiction is called a very bad situation is because it is a phase where a person continues to do various actions that tend to be excessive which all lead them to a much worse impact, which in addition yes as you said that another problem is that addiction is a disease that is really difficult to cure, even if for example a gambler can recover from addiction but surely they have experienced some bad effects.

I think that choosing gambling as an activity that is done with the aim of finding entertainment when you have boring free time is indeed nothing wrong, or any activity, even more dangerous, everything will still be fine if basically a gambler knows and understands the level of risk and makes various decisions that do not exceed his limits.
Though you have to be wise about it, gambling may be entertaining. Like all else in life, know your limitations. Dont bet the farm, dont get carried away. The problem is, sometimes people lose sight of that. Family comes in here at that. Your basis and anchor is a solid family. They help you to stay rooted. They alert you to your approaching too deep depth.

But pay close attention; its more than just fixing the issue. Its more about stopping it. Speak with your relatives. Inform them of the risks. Verify that everyone understands what is happening. Trust me; when gaming consumes one, it may ruin lives and relationships. Have fun, then, but be sensible. Manage it carefully. Remember that family comes first. You will be just fine if you do that.

Yes that's the point, don't ever try to take actions that are beyond your means, everyone has different limits, especially when it comes to spending money, and it's a fact that everyone doesn't like to lose, especially not by a significant amount. That's why we always recommend that you never try to make decisions that are beyond your means. I understand that gambling provides opportunities, but we must also be aware of the possibility of risks that cannot be tolerated, meaning that the opportunities and risks are 50 - 50.

On the other hand, I firmly believe that gamblers who can feel entertainment and enjoyment in gambling are those who understand the opportunities but also realize the risks where their minds are not too focused on winning because they realize the risks that cannot be tolerated, so the point is that by realizing and knowing about what you are doing, you will most likely have no difficulty in applying various precautions such as caution or being wise and others.


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June 25, 2024, 12:17:55 PM
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Becoming skilled player isn't an easy thing to a gambler that expects only lucky charms from misleading beliefs, that's one of the reason why there's no concrete development of each personal skills. If ever there's a quick strategy to make certain possibility of acquiring specific skills, we need to master and focus on a betting game that a gambler prefers to have. Most people only view it as fun and easy steps but in reality losses happen and it became unstoppable if not managed in a right process.
They will not wins easily even if they use lucky charms because gambling is unpredicted and we don't knows what is the outcomes. We can wins but we can also lose easily in gambling so we don't have to depends on superstitious things to wins the gambling games but we can try to enjoy the gambling games so we can relax ourselves in gambling in our spare time.

But if they have skills in certain gambling games, they may have more chance to wins but that depends on how their opposite skills because if their opposite have a high skills, we will difficult to wins the games. We can lets those people with their superstitious things that they used when they playing gambling because they believe they can wins the games using that way and we can't changes them.

Totally agree with you even though gamblers have amulets and carry them when gambling, it is not certain that they will immediately win easily, such as in lottery gambling, gamblers look for amulets in the cemetery area in order to get a beautiful number that will be used in lottery gambling the next day. Then what will happen the next day, the number they put in may not match the number issued by the bookie and this experience should be used to make them aware of the wrong perception with myths that are still very doubtful in their results.

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June 26, 2024, 08:29:21 AM
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Totally agree with you even though gamblers have amulets and carry them when gambling, it is not certain that they will immediately win easily, such as in lottery gambling, gamblers look for amulets in the cemetery area in order to get a beautiful number that will be used in lottery gambling the next day. Then what will happen the next day, the number they put in may not match the number issued by the bookie and this experience should be used to make them aware of the wrong perception with myths that are still very doubtful in their results.
Some gamblers can carry the amulets when they playing gambling but that can not disturb other gamblers in gambling because that maybe makes some gamblers feels that is not right to do. They must not say about what they do to other gamblers so they can still use the amulets while they playing gambling.

Some gamblers still believes about that superstitious so they will search for the ways to have that things so they can carry when they playing gambling. They must realizes that things can not helps them to wins in gambling games, especially in lottery because that games will depends on their luck to wins. If they can wins the games, that doesn't mean their amulets or something like that helps them but that is because their luck comes to them.

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June 26, 2024, 09:39:51 AM
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Totally agree with you even though gamblers have amulets and carry them when gambling, it is not certain that they will immediately win easily, such as in lottery gambling, gamblers look for amulets in the cemetery area in order to get a beautiful number that will be used in lottery gambling the next day. Then what will happen the next day, the number they put in may not match the number issued by the bookie and this experience should be used to make them aware of the wrong perception with myths that are still very doubtful in their results.
Some gamblers can carry the amulets when they playing gambling but that can not disturb other gamblers in gambling because that maybe makes some gamblers feels that is not right to do. They must not say about what they do to other gamblers so they can still use the amulets while they playing gambling.

Some gamblers still believes about that superstitious so they will search for the ways to have that things so they can carry when they playing gambling. They must realizes that things can not helps them to wins in gambling games, especially in lottery because that games will depends on their luck to wins. If they can wins the games, that doesn't mean their amulets or something like that helps them but that is because their luck comes to them.
When I started gambling earlier, I believed in the power of amulets and so on, but time has shown that it is completely dishonest, at least for me. But I tried to believe that they would bring good luck, in general it looked very funny at that moment, I believed and begged to win the bet using the power of the amulet, but the bet lost. After several such events, I did not go looking for a new amulet, but simply realized that it was all nonsense, and luck itself decides who to choose as the winner.

As for the OP’s story, it’s really creepy, probably the man was right, because some people addicted to the game will be forced to do things that they would never do in their life and this sometimes causes fear in me.

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June 26, 2024, 10:10:15 AM
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Of course it looks like a mystical story that sends shivers down my spine. It was probably not a real man, but just your imagination, which warned you about the danger specifically for you if you continue to play. If I were the OP, I would stop and not play, at least for a while to think about everything. Not every player will be given a warning from higher powers, as happened with you. I have heard such stories before, I will not mock them because these are actually serious things and not attaching importance to them would be a big mistake. I recommend that everyone be aware of this situation, especially those who have had this happen to them, and learn more online about this topic.

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June 27, 2024, 02:30:36 AM
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Totally agree with you even though gamblers have amulets and carry them when gambling, it is not certain that they will immediately win easily, such as in lottery gambling, gamblers look for amulets in the cemetery area in order to get a beautiful number that will be used in lottery gambling the next day. Then what will happen the next day, the number they put in may not match the number issued by the bookie and this experience should be used to make them aware of the wrong perception with myths that are still very doubtful in their results.
Some gamblers can carry the amulets when they playing gambling but that can not disturb other gamblers in gambling because that maybe makes some gamblers feels that is not right to do. They must not say about what they do to other gamblers so they can still use the amulets while they playing gambling.

Some gamblers still believes about that superstitious so they will search for the ways to have that things so they can carry when they playing gambling. They must realizes that things can not helps them to wins in gambling games, especially in lottery because that games will depends on their luck to wins. If they can wins the games, that doesn't mean their amulets or something like that helps them but that is because their luck comes to them.

Yes, bringing amulets while gambling is not prohibited, but will he try to be honest or open about it? In my opinion, NO, because if he is caught, he will feel embarrassed and will hear a lot of taunts at the casino. Because nowadays there are many gamblers who do not believe in mystical things, gamblers now rely on their intelligence and insight in every gamble so that they consider losing or winning to be the real result.

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June 27, 2024, 02:51:59 AM
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If they really got addicted and lost everything, they would think it was the manipulation of the devil that cost it and therefore may believe that gambling demonic. I agree with what you said. Those that stopped gambling because of how bad it turned out for them usually wants to discourage others too.
I laugh when someone who is already a real gambling addict says something that doesn't make sense.
Scapegoating the devil is the cause of his defeat, even though the devil itself is his own state, where he becomes uncontrollable and too greedy and addicted to gambling.

No control, no management and no self-evaluation, it will only result in misdirection and a mental that will be slightly disturbed.
In his subconscious he said that the defeat occurred because of the fault of the devil or the devil who whispered it.

The thing is that some people usually want someone to blame for their ignorance, lack of discipline, and weak decisions. It is only someone who has not been in the system that will believe what they say. I was in church one day when our pastor was passing a sermon, and then he talked about gambling and addiction. He never said that gambling was demonic, but rather that gamblers allow themselves to be dealt with by greed and a lack of self-discipline and self control, which is why they become addicted and blame the devil at last for their own ignorance. There are also some pastors who would support the argument that gambling is demonic while it's not.
That's why it's called believe, some persons see it the other way while some see same way too, but every knows how they feel about it and that's all for me. If am to say anything I feel our believe about gambling doesn't really matter for me what I believe is that just do what pleases you and if what pleases you cause you pain then I would probably advice to stay clear that route.

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June 27, 2024, 07:14:09 AM
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Yes, bringing amulets while gambling is not prohibited, but will he try to be honest or open about it? In my opinion, NO, because if he is caught, he will feel embarrassed and will hear a lot of taunts at the casino. Because nowadays there are many gamblers who do not believe in mystical things, gamblers now rely on their intelligence and insight in every gamble so that they consider losing or winning to be the real result.
Superstitious in gamble is still quite often to happend and i have been the witnesses of this thing that in my environment there are some of old guys who often to gamble and everytime they starting to gamble usually they bring some amulets because they thought this can boosted their luck although these people know if they lost the amulets cannot help them to recover their loses but they says gambling with bringing these items will makes them is more confident

Indeed majority people weren't believe these things because they thought gambling using superstitious is very useless but i think we cannot blame some people who still believe these things because every people has different method to boosted winning chances in gambling and for some people superstitious in gambling is still important because people believe with these things it can boosted their luck while gamble however superstitious in gambling is still dominated in Africa and Asia and if you live in these places i think you will find many of these things happened there as i have experienced myself

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