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June 15, 2024, 05:59:13 PM
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Casinos are not making people addicts it is just the people who abuse gambling in the wrong way and then try to blame the system instead of taking responsibility. This stranger from the bus had the wrong influence or confused himself with religious beliefs and conspiracy theories spread around the internet and created his version of why gambling is bad.

It's like demons have no other job than looking for people who open their app and make bet. Tongue
We should really be thinking up on this way on which its true that casinos arent make or existing for making people that addicted, it is really just that peoples actions are the ones made them able to experience those worst conditions because of addiction and this is something that they should really be that trying out to realize and not everything should really be blamed into casino platforms but rather into your own self.

Applying any superstitious beliefs would really be just that depending into someones preference yet each person does have their own thinking and belief into things. If they are get used to on following
those things since from the start then they would really be that definitely be doing it until the end not unless they would really be making up those realizations that it isnt always something that you could
really be able to rely on when it comes to gambling results. This is why it would really be always best that you should really know on what you are dealing with.

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June 15, 2024, 06:07:56 PM
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Your story OP sounds funny to me,but I can say that the man  is looking for a means to actually stop people from gambling,and he knows if he goes directly to tell you normally that it isn't good,you won't listen to him,so him involving Satan and saying it's the devil that directs the casino so that people will lose is just a way to scare you.
If I were you,or I were to be in that bus,I will ask him if he had seen the devil himself,or why he felt it is the devil that controls it.To me,I don't see any satanism in gambling,people who are lucky often wins,and the unlucky people loses,there is no superstitiousness in the business of gambling,it is purely on luck.

Very funny to hear all this, the devil this and that, avoid this and that or you belong to the devil. People should learn to understand that everyone of us are different, what I would prefer doing might be completely different from what the next person might find interest doing. Gambling is not satanic, it only has an intense disadvantages when in the hands of those who do not follow the basic restrictions and eventually get addicted then you see how hard life becomes for these people giving the gambling haters enough reason to point fingers as the suffering coming from the devil instead of mismanagement of gambling habits.

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June 15, 2024, 06:08:36 PM
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What's your opinion about this please?
The evil tempts humankind since the early times, as we can see on the stories and teachings which have been told to us by our ancestors and which are intrinsic to our societies and cultures, doesn't matter where you are from, as it's common to all of us.

Naturally, the desire and pursue for money is directly related to that temptation, which turns mankind into greedy individuals who lose control over their principles and values, so they can achieve material wealth and become more important and influent among their pairs. We don't know exactly from where such temptations come from, how they take control of us, and why some individuals are stronger than others when resisting to them.

But we can't deny it doesn't happen or doesn't exist. However, it's not possible to say demons manipulate the bets' results on the favour of the casino, because we know there is factor called house edge, which gives a mathematical advantage to the casinos on long run. That is why they profit and gamblers lose.

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June 15, 2024, 06:09:10 PM
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Your story OP sounds funny to me,but I can say that the man  is looking for a means to actually stop people from gambling,and he knows if he goes directly to tell you normally that it isn't good,you won't listen to him,so him involving Satan and saying it's the devil that directs the casino so that people will lose is just a way to scare you.
If I were you,or I were to be in that bus,I will ask him if he had seen the devil himself,or why he felt it is the devil that controls it.To me,I don't see any satanism in gambling,people who are lucky often wins,and the unlucky people loses,there is no superstitiousness in the business of gambling,it is purely on luck.


We don't know where the guy was coming from. It may be his new religion or previous bad experience in gambling. But if you are a responsible gambler, you don't need to worry about people having giving such piece of advice. You know your limits and you are not stepping anyone's toes.

Every individual has their own beliefs in life. We all just need respect when it comes to this aspect. We don't need to force anyone to follow our faith in something. It is better to give some guidance to other people if they ask it from you. Otherwise, it is none of our business to poke someone else's life.

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June 15, 2024, 06:19:36 PM
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What's your opinion about this please?
The evil tempts humankind since the early times, as we can see on the stories and teachings which have been told to us by our ancestors and which are intrinsic to our societies and cultures, doesn't matter where you are from, as it's common to all of us.

Naturally, the desire and pursue for money is directly related to that temptation, which turns mankind into greedy individuals who lose control over their principles and values, so they can achieve material wealth and become more important and influent among their pairs. We don't know exactly from where such temptations come from, how they take control of us, and why some individuals are stronger than others when resisting to them.

But we can't deny it doesn't happen or doesn't exist. However, it's not possible to say demons manipulate the bets' results on the favour of the casino, because we know there is factor called house edge, which gives a mathematical advantage to the casinos on long run. That is why they profit and gamblers lose.

That factor "house edge" is what the passenger points as the demon. lol. It's misinformation that led to it, he needed to be educated on how gambling works. While people try to let gamblers see the game in a false view, being countervailing could be the case. Because the gambler also wouldn't accept whatever a non gambler has to say, in an unpleasant manner. Hence, gamblers who get to associate with free speech non gamblers who wish to air out their critic on gambling, they should engage them as well and not feel stigmatized. This will not only help the player, but the non gambler would be learning something new. The risky aspect of it, is that the non gambler can become a gambler and may not be opportune to have indebt knowledge of gambling.

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June 15, 2024, 09:56:22 PM
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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

That is the man's believe and not my believe, gambling is not satanic if only you know what you are doing that is doing it right with your habit towards gambling, I completely agree with you that the man has lost so much for him to have come up so such conclusions about gambling being satanic. However, so far people that win are being paid I don't think if there is anything wrong with it perhaps no body has ever been forced to gamble it has always been a deliberate action or activity which is meant to be considered to be for a fun, gambling becomes problematic if only focused are made on maximizing profits which of course has no guarantee, it is either you win or loss.

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June 15, 2024, 10:25:50 PM
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My opinion is that believing in demons is bullshit, whether it is applied to gambling or in other fields. Those who have superstitions have an archaic mentality, not a modern scientific-rational one. Forget demons and study the mathematics that governs gambling, you will be much better off.
I understand your perspective. However let's not forget the fact that everyone has freedom to air their beliefs. Beliefs about demons and superstitions vary from individual to individual, also keeping in mind that mathematical approach  and some level of experience can be more effective in understanding and addressing issues concerning gambling. Focusing on mathematical analysis and probability especially for games that involves calculation , can provide a more reliable and evidence compared to believing in superstitions.
However, it's also important to remember that beliefs and superstitions can havrr its impact on people's lives and behaviors, even if they may not have concrete evidence.
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June 16, 2024, 01:43:38 AM
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Gambling is a normal play that just got monetized to become a business for the owners and a source of joy and some sort of passive streams of income for others. Those
set of people that are superstitious with gambling  are the same set of people that think that almost everything is demonic including being a fan of a sports team or evening using the Internet is also demonic.

For as long as I know, gambling isn't something that's all that complex to understand that will make me factor out any sort of demonic trends into it. Instead of assuming that  gambling is demonic, I would rather think that borrowing is actually demonic as it's always deficult to pay back from someone you've borrowed from and maybe we could ascride such deficulty to mean that the person you borrowed the said money from could use strange power to stop you from being able to pay the money back as at when due


Actually for me, since it takes personal conviction without being persuaded to gamble I would never say gambling is satanic or demonic but however, this aspect of borrowing money and not being able to pay as when due is very real in my countryside where most people uses dark power to torment those they borrowed money not to be able to pay back as when due in order to have multiples of interest making it very difficult for the borrower to pay back untimely where I don't think if  such manipulations are  possible in gambling where you can not be denied your winning payment whenever you have a potential winning.

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June 16, 2024, 01:53:29 AM
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I would rather think that borrowing is actually demonic as it's always deficult to pay back from someone you've borrowed from and maybe we could ascride such deficulty to mean that the person you borrowed the said money from could use strange power to stop you from being able to pay the money back as at when due
Actually for me, since it takes personal conviction without being persuaded to gamble I would never say gambling is satanic or demonic but however, this aspect of borrowing money and not being able to pay as when due is very real in my countryside where most people uses dark power to torment those they borrowed money not to be able to pay back as when due in order to have multiples of interest making it very difficult for the borrower to pay back untimely where I don't think if  such manipulations are  possible in gambling where you can not be denied your winning payment whenever you have a potential winning.
Gambling is an entertainment. If people related to satanic or demon, that will be up to them because that will depends on their perspective. If they still related gambling to superstitious believe, we can not do anything because they will not accept of what other people will say. They will still use something superstitious that they believe because they wants to wins in gambling using that way.

Borrowing money from other people will not be a demonic because that is not related to the dark side. Perhaps, that person needs money to fills his daily needs so he decides to borrow money. He knows that he must repay his loan so he will gets that money to gives back to the lender.

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Actually, at first I didn't believe in mystical things, but nowadays there is a lot of competition, making business people do many things to make their business run smoothly and there are lots of enthusiasts, even food and goods businesses also do mystical things so that their merchandise can sell well and taste good and attract customers. feel satisfied and come back again, maybe the same thing is done by casino owners so that their business runs smoothly and manipulates their victims even though sometimes gambling is a game of luck, I also see that sometimes people are easily tempted by gambling and it can make someone addicted but if they have strong beliefs and a person's full responsibility will not be addicted to gambling.

The house always benefits somehow I believe that gambling can be manipulated, for example the result can be winning but in the end we lose the bet, we should gamble just for fun and don't think about making money because every business always benefits the house, we won't be able to fooling gambling no matter how great our skills are because cooperation with the devil is true in today's world even though we cannot see it directly.

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June 16, 2024, 03:54:30 AM
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Your story OP sounds funny to me,but I can say that the man  is looking for a means to actually stop people from gambling,and he knows if he goes directly to tell you normally that it isn't good,you won't listen to him,so him involving Satan and saying it's the devil that directs the casino so that people will lose is just a way to scare you.
If I were you,or I were to be in that bus,I will ask him if he had seen the devil himself,or why he felt it is the devil that controls it.To me,I don't see any satanism in gambling,people who are lucky often wins,and the unlucky people loses,there is no superstitiousness in the business of gambling,it is purely on luck.


We don't know where the guy was coming from. It may be his new religion or previous bad experience in gambling. But if you are a responsible gambler, you don't need to worry about people having giving such piece of advice. You know your limits and you are not stepping anyone's toes.

Every individual has their own beliefs in life. We all just need respect when it comes to this aspect. We don't need to force anyone to follow our faith in something. It is better to give some guidance to other people if they ask it from you. Otherwise, it is none of our business to poke someone else's life.
In general, it is our way of gambling and we don't care what other gamblers are doing because what we aim for is to win and make fun. If they got lucky, they would praise their gods more but if they went unlucky, they might blame it. And they don't have reasons as well to blame people around them if they lose. It is all about respect and we know that they are doing what they think is right, some religious people are in trust of their gods not only for gambling but for other things. And we never know if other gamblers will follow them when they win.
That is why I don't say anything bad to them. We can be a gambler and win in any way as long as it is not in the way of cheating.

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June 16, 2024, 05:54:23 AM
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Casinos are not making people addicts it is just the people who abuse gambling in the wrong way and then try to blame the system instead of taking responsibility. This stranger from the bus had the wrong influence or confused himself with religious beliefs and conspiracy theories spread around the internet and created his version of why gambling is bad.

It's like demons have no other job than looking for people who open their app and make bet. Tongue
We are here for what exactly? We're here for the main profits. Gambling should be very important and stable but there's always something to ascertain about. Blaming the system will not solve the matter, either way the best technique is simply accepting our mistakes and worked in improvement because there's more to accumulate in the system.

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June 16, 2024, 06:08:54 AM
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That's just a superstition, if what that old man was saying to you is real, the devil would've shown itself to you the moment that you've started to gamble, it's just a way to scare people into not doing what their scripture thinks isn't the right thing to do, that's how I see things when it comes to prohibitions that have a religious influence, it's not right and at the same time some of them aren't really that bad thing to be doing especially in this topic, gambling. What I mean is how can someone actually have their soul's get burned in eternal flame in hell just because they want to have fun? How come there's things that aren't exactly immoral thing that's being prohibited like, what's the point of doing that? It's not stopping people anyway, what they're doing is making things much stricter than it should be or should I dare say, make life even more boring.

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June 16, 2024, 06:57:57 AM
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Casinos are not making people addicts it is just the people who abuse gambling in the wrong way and then try to blame the system instead of taking responsibility. This stranger from the bus had the wrong influence or confused himself with religious beliefs and conspiracy theories spread around the internet and created his version of why gambling is bad.

It's like demons have no other job than looking for people who open their app and make bet. Tongue
We are here for what exactly? We're here for the main profits. Gambling should be very important and stable but there's always something to ascertain about. Blaming the system will not solve the matter, either way the best technique is simply accepting our mistakes and worked in improvement because there's more to accumulate in the system.


The system has enough meaningful things to accumulate from players including their money. Don't know for sure what actually gamblers have to accumulate from the casino except for financial and time management. That's for players who are interested in receiving such skills through gambling. The man in the story may have been a victim of lots of losses and ended up leaving the system with nothing. Thereby his motive is convincing more people to think like he does. It's fine hearing the insights of non-gamblers or quitters and how strange and funny it sounds. I noticed that their conversations about gambling is influenced by their previous gambling experience.

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June 16, 2024, 08:04:23 AM
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Your story OP sounds funny to me,but I can say that the man  is looking for a means to actually stop people from gambling,and he knows if he goes directly to tell you normally that it isn't good,you won't listen to him,so him involving Satan and saying it's the devil that directs the casino so that people will lose is just a way to scare you.
If I were you,or I were to be in that bus,I will ask him if he had seen the devil himself,or why he felt it is the devil that controls it.To me,I don't see any satanism in gambling,people who are lucky often wins,and the unlucky people loses,there is no superstitiousness in the business of gambling,it is purely on luck.

Very funny to hear all this, the devil this and that, avoid this and that or you belong to the devil. People should learn to understand that everyone of us are different, what I would prefer doing might be completely different from what the next person might find interest doing. Gambling is not satanic, it only has an intense disadvantages when in the hands of those who do not follow the basic restrictions and eventually get addicted then you see how hard life becomes for these people giving the gambling haters enough reason to point fingers as the suffering coming from the devil instead of mismanagement of gambling habits.
Well said. An activity that influence a person negatively doesn't necessarily mean it's satanic. Because anyone can gamble and its effect will depend on what kind of player you are. Those who don't have self-control will likely fall to becoming addicted for not having discipline and probably with a main desire of earning money. While those who are playing for fun using their spare money won't end up getting rekt because they are aware how gambling works.

We're giving advice often based on our experience and that's understandable, but we have different way on how to handle such situation hence if you became addicted, it doesn't mean other gamblers will become addicted too.

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June 16, 2024, 08:18:20 AM
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What's your opinion about this please?
It is common in my country for people to blame demons for their mistakes, carelessness, foolishness, and mediocrity. When criminals are caught they always blame Satan for pushing them to engage in the crime. If you were oppurtuned to know this man's gambling history you will be surprised that he was a careless gambler who never took any precautions during his gambling days. After he had lost so much, he would generally blame demons.

His claims are false because it has no scientific or even religious backing. This mindset is one of the superstitious beliefs that people blame after they have failed to do their homework. Anybody familiar with gambling will know that the house has more advantages and if you are not comfortable with the area arrangement it will be better to stop gambling than to blame demons.
It's easier and more convenient for people to blame others, circumstances, devil, demons and the universe for their mistakes and wrong decisions. The old man in the story was probably an irresponsible gambler or an addicted gambler, so it was easier for him to blame the devil and demons for his failures in gambling. We should know that we're responsible for our actions and neither God or devil can make our decisions for us, so people should stop blaming devil and demons when they lose in gambling because they're the ones that chooses to gamble, knowing that they can either win or lose. The assumption that gambling is from the devil or inspired by him is baseless, just like some people in my country will tell you that very rich people are in secret societies and it's devil that gives them riches, they're all assumptions of the poor..

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June 16, 2024, 01:54:47 PM
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The system has enough meaningful things to accumulate from players including their money. Don't know for sure what actually gamblers have to accumulate from the casino except for financial and time management. That's for players who are interested in receiving such skills through gambling. The man in the story may have been a victim of lots of losses and ended up leaving the system with nothing. Thereby his motive is convincing more people to think like he does. It's fine hearing the insights of non-gamblers or quitters and how strange and funny it sounds. I noticed that their conversations about gambling is influenced by their previous gambling experience.

Those people that think in such way are only exaggerating and just like you stated, they end up with such mentality probably because of their past experience in gambling. If they really got addicted and lost everything, they would think it was the manipulation of the devil that cost it and therefore may believe that gambling demonic. I agree with what you said. Those that stopped gambling because of how bad it turned out for them usually wants to discourage others too.

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June 17, 2024, 12:46:24 PM
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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?
Hey man, whatever makes us sleep at night. Clearly this guy's either saying the truth (about his experience, not about the nature of gambling) or he's trying to persuade you from quitting gambling, and while normally I would appreciate people helping me control my gambling urges I do not appreciate it when I'm being scolded like that lol. Like what the fuck do you care about how I spend my money or how much I gamble, and who are you even?

In any case, No, that's just superstition created to better cope with losing so much money on gambling, instead of taking accountability and blaming himself, which thereby would allow him to see his mistakes and therefore become a better person, he created a belief system that specifically takes the brunt of the burden of dealing with gambling consequences for him.

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June 17, 2024, 01:01:37 PM
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In any case, No, that's just superstition created to better cope with losing so much money on gambling, instead of taking accountability and blaming himself, which thereby would allow him to see his mistakes and therefore become a better person, he created a belief system that specifically takes the brunt of the burden of dealing with gambling consequences for him.
Well, this is true because it's part of the human nature to look for someone or something to blame with the action they made which does not turn on their favor. Specifically in gambling, they even come to the point just like you said, creating a belief to put the blame on that belief and make themselves more comfortable and bring back their confidence due to the negative experience they got in gambling.



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June 17, 2024, 01:15:33 PM
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If they really got addicted and lost everything, they would think it was the manipulation of the devil that cost it and therefore may believe that gambling demonic. I agree with what you said. Those that stopped gambling because of how bad it turned out for them usually wants to discourage others too.
I laugh when someone who is already a real gambling addict says something that doesn't make sense.
Scapegoating the devil is the cause of his defeat, even though the devil itself is his own state, where he becomes uncontrollable and too greedy and addicted to gambling.

No control, no management and no self-evaluation, it will only result in misdirection and a mental that will be slightly disturbed.
In his subconscious he said that the defeat occurred because of the fault of the devil or the devil who whispered it.

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