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In South Korea, A bank employee (https://cryptonews.com/news/s-korean-court-rules-in-favor-of-bank-who-fired-staffer-for-playing-crypto-games/) was found to be playing online games that use crypto as its in game currency. The bank claimed that the employee is a habitual gambler and fired him from his job. The ex-employee naturally raised his concern to HR as he thinks it is unfair dismissal but the HR rejected his appeal which led him to file a lawsuit. In the end, even the court sided with the bank. Even though the ex-employee claims that he never played during work hours and that his habits did not interfere with his work quality, the court rules it to be undignified to be gambling with crypto.

If crypto wasn't involved, do you think this employee would have gotten fired?

In this case. We can't do conclude that crypto was the full cause of him being fired... Though we know how banks are not buying the idea of cryptocurrency as it's more like a rival to them.. but then the employee was already becoming an addict.. he claims that he didn't gamble or let his gambling interfere with his work, how then were they able to find out that he plays on a casino? These things most times can be personal if we do keep them hidden.. he could have dropped his gambling habits at home and after work he can continue instead of creating more problems for himself...

yes of course… banks and financial institutions have strict policies against gambling since they handle money, and it’s generally against their rules. Plus, it’s pretty unethical...employees are paid to focus on their job, so work hours should be for company tasks only, no personal activities mixed in. Employees have handbooks for a reason, and if it says that gambling during work hours could lead to termination, then the employee really can’t do anything about it. This guy even took it to court, thinking he could dodge the illegal dismissal, but nope, he still lost. It’s definitely a lesson for everyone.

We actually had a thread here before about gambling at work. A lot of users admitted to it, though I’m not sure if anyone ever got caught.

Who among you here is gambling at work? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5470139.0)

No matter what’s used for gambling, it still falls under the same offense. Gambling during work hours is a terminable offense, no question. Before we start a job, HR or whoever's in charge usually gives an orientation, and I'm sure the “no gambling at work” rule is part of it. These days, it’s even easier to catch because online gambling is so accessible. If someone’s using a company computer, it’s pretty obvious, and even if they use their phone, CCTV can still catch them in the act.

We need to be responsible about it. Gambling is fun, but being a responsible gambler means doing it at the right time and place. Now, what happens to the employee? His record doesn’t look good, and any future employers might see that in their background check. Many companies ask for clearance from past employers to make sure they’re hiring reliable people.

In the end, repentance really does comes later.

I work in finance, and hold a position dealing with a heck of a lot more money than a basic banking employee.  What I want to know is if they were able to prove that he was actually gambling during working time/hours?  If he wasn't then yeah this is really fucked up.  My boss knows very well that I am in to bitcoin. I have even invited some of my team members to some of my charity auctions/contest like the pumpkin contest and she's got no problem with it. 

from this part of the courts rulling, it's clear that the reason behind his sack is not just because crypto is involved but just to prevent potential embezzlement and mismanagement of funds. The concluding judgement reads;
  Furthermore, since the [ex-employee] suffered a significant financial loss through gambling, it could have had a negative impact on their overall work efficiency. If an employee in the financial industry gambles, there is a high possibility that they will commit additional crimes such as embezzlement to recover their losses.” 

If I'm a gambler, I wouldn't want to keep people's money in my custody and if I own a business, I wouldn't be comfortable to assign a gambler that has lost a lot of money to be in charge of my finance. This is purely business and financial principles that's all for the interest of both the sacked banker and the bank itself and not about crypto gambling or an anti gambling verdict.

If someone that's in the medical field is found to be a chronic alcoholic, that might lead to his sack. It's not just because alcohol is an abomination or that the person that even sacked him doesn't take alcohol. It might just be that by the reason of some kind of job you're doing, it's best you avoid certain things or stay disciplined enough not to allow it control you.
 

if the fact is that the employee didn't gamble while on work it's definitely a very nonsense reason and unfair decision especially to pull out someone on their job immediately without any further explanation. imagine even the Hr ignored the appeal of the employee . So i can say that this kind of situation is very unfair tbh, unless if they caught it playing while on duty or it's restricted on their country coz it's really it make sense.

With traditional gaming, especially if it's not during work hours, an employee’s personal life wouldn’t usually come under such scrutiny unless it clearly affected job performance.

The court’s stance seems rooted in the negative perception of crypto, especially in gaming, which many still associate with gambling. It’s possible that without crypto in the mix, this might have been treated as a private pastime rather than grounds for termination. In this case, the crypto aspect seems to have influenced the judgment more than the actual behavior, highlighting how traditional industries still view crypto with suspicion. It does make me wonder how many companies have policies that truly reflect an employee's work-life balance when it comes to evolving tech like crypto.

Yes, the reason he was fired wasn’t because he used a casino that accepts crypto as a form of payment but due to the fact that he was gambling while in office. Most companies don’t take gambling lightly, they tend to view their employees that gamble as being irresponsible and would not be able to properly handle their job thus the reason employees are advised to not gamble near their place of work.

If it was a currency issue then the court would have sided with the employees since crypto isn’t illegal in that country and everyone should have the right to use whatever their deem fit as their mean of payment and their job shouldn’t get to decide that for them unless they sign a written agreement on it before they started working there.

I don't think the reason he was fired was because he played crypto games, but more because of his gambling behavior, because you can see how the bank he worked for explained that he was a habitual gambler, and maybe that has the potential to make him a gambling addict and when that happens it will be very possible for him to steal, cheat, or do other criminal acts in the place where he works. So it's like the bank where he works is eliminating the potential for employees who will do bad things in the place where he works.

Gambling is strictly restricted for bank employees, no matter what currency he is gambling with. Even though he was a bank employee, this offense involving gambling was enough to warrant his dismissal. Bank officials have to take various precautions with their money, one of which is employee integrity. Now, if an employee of his bank is involved in gambling then it is natural that the integrity of that employee will be questioned. Gamblers have a little temptation for money especially if he is a vain gambler. I don't think bank money is safe with such a gambler. His involvement in crypto is not a sufficient reason for dismissal, his involvement in gambling is a good and sufficient reason for dismissal.

I think that there's more to the story that we don't know, if OP has added a link, we would've gotten the full story. The fired banker claimed that his gambling doesn't affect his work so we don't know if he used to gamble during work hours or it's the bank policy that it's staff shouldn't engage in gambling activities. If he's gambling during work hours, then it's wrong, especially for somebody that works in a financial institution, he could get addicted and want to tamper with the bank's money. But if he's gambling after work hours, then it's not fair that he should be fired. Although if he's not gambling during work hours, then I wonder how the authority will know about his gambling habit.

I just made a glance through the website and I noticed crypto wasn't the only reason why this individual was charged for, because according to the article link which you provided above, it's said that he was noticed to have been  “engaged in inappropriate private money lending” with the bank’s loan clients" and likewise claimed to have been a “habitual gambler who played online gambling games that use crypto as an in-game currency, of which Crypto gambling games were said to be illegal in South Korea. So it's likely to have been fired too if crypto wasn't involved base on the first charged of "Private Money leading". Because at some point, I will tend to blame the individual to have let his fellow colleagues know he was gambling via using a crypto casino, while knowing fully well it was illegal in his country.

Why is he gambling at work place is what we should talk about. There are people that have gotten fired like this in the past. That is why it is good to read news. If he has read news about it before, he will not be gambling at a place of work. Just his house is enough for gambling or where he is that is not his work place and also not work purpose. If they did not see him gambling, they will not know that he is gambling and they will not fire him.

It’s same scenario. It’s conflict of interest for someone who work in the bank that has gambling habits since they are prone for addiction.

The court will not side with the bank if there’s no terms that backed the company to fire the employee. You can consider this case as high risk for the bank to have a gambler employee. Besides, how will the bank knew that he is gambling if doesn’t show any sign of gambling habits at work.

Totally depends on what would be their approach towards the situation. If they do hate up crypto and other things related to it then no doubt that the court would really be going side with the banks. If this doesn't talks about crypto and still fires that individual or employee then they are already seeing or looking for the probability that the employee might get addicted and would be using banks funds and this is what that they are trying out to avoid while it's still early. We don't know on what's up into their minds but we can really definitely say or assume basing up with common sense. As an institution then it will really be that hard to win against if there would be some lawsuits or complain towards them, specially if you are just an employee with having less money and connections. So it's really pointless and costly if you are really that trying to fight on something you do know which is right but there are things which is ideal  that you do need to skip and just let it go rather than on finding for some trouble.

There might be hard proof that he did gamble. We don't know that. Because I believe a judge will always rely on the evidence presented to him and if it's too obvious that the man gambled while he is at work like he was caught on CCTV or his colleague photographed him then he cannot get away from it.

It's not about crypto but the word crypto was mixed with gambling that's why it sounded bad. Gambling using cash is also bad when you are at work and it means you can also be fired if you do that and caught. It doesn't matter what currency he is using, when he is at the job, all the time should be for his work there and not messing around doing other things.

According to the article though, I think the bank employee's real problem is crypto gaming so I guess that is why he filed a lawsuit because he thinks he is innocent in the illegal crypto gambling but clearly guilty of using the bank's computer for crypto gaming. I don't think that helped him. It may have just made things worse.

Crypto is just a payment method. What matters the most is the bank employee being accused of being a gambling addict. Even if he got caught gambling on a fiat casino, the outcome would probably be the same. This is a cautionary tale that all gamblers should keep their gambling activities a secret, because revealing them to the wrong people would ruin their lives. Gambling is allowed in most countries, but being a gambler is viewed as a bad and dangerous thing. This seems kinda hypocrite to me. I don't know about the gambling laws and regulations in South Korea. Maybe they are very strict. Somebody from South Korea should explain us more about the situation there.

I think he will still be fired even if he was playing with fiat currency because the reason for his termination is playing during office hours, which is prohibited regardless of the workplace. It was already proven in court that the employee committed a misdeed, so I believe this case is closed.

Of course, he would still get fired because he was involved in inappropriate private money lending” with the bank’s loan clients. This alone is enough for the bank to kick his ass, because he is not a trusted and honest person to work in such position. Maybe, the government might have not taken hash decisions on supporting the bank, if he wasn't going against the country's law by gambling with crypto. He is guilty in two ways, lending bank funds inappropriately, which is against the bank law, and going against his government.

I feel they fired for the gambling not because of crypto involvement so even if there's no crypto involvement still he would be fired since any kind of gambling is prohibited in South Korea. Honestly speaking this article just added crypto in it to get the attention and nothing else because he fired due to gambling which is illegal activities whether done online or offline, done with fiat or crypto the results will be same.

How then did the bank know about his gambling lifestyle if he claims he never gambled at work and never allowed his lifestyle interfere with his job. He must have been gossiping about it to his colleagues which has raised obvious concerns about his trustworthiness as a bank staff. This is not just about crypto gambling, but about gambling in general.

Most banks care so much about their reputation since they deal with clients money. This is why they also go a long way to test the integrity of their staff by paying attention to what they do during work hours and even after work hours. A bank staff who is a passionate gambler will definitely raise eyebrows about the reputation and integrity of that particular staff. The bank cannot really tell if he is a compulsive gambler, it is only safer for them to demise him before anything goes wrong.

The bank is not wrong here, employees should understand what the organisation they work for stand for and try to abide by the organisation's code of conduct.

Judging from my own perspective even if the person had not use crypto for gambling he would have still been sacked by the bank because banking system is a very fragile and tempting work because the person is being exposed to a lot of money, so it is believed that anybody who would work on the bank should be a very responsible and discipline individuals who would have nothing else to think about apart from the work till the closing hour, so seeing the guy gambling has already passed a negative information about him since they no what some gamblers are capable of doing, so they decided to sack him before it gets to a point that would affect the bank, so actually they took the action out of fear that gambling can possibly make him to use people's money into it and not because of crypto involvement.

I have seen in South Korea a lot of taxi drivers... driving and playing online games during their work like the most common thing to do... so I am not really surprised there is some one that is playing even during office time.
But I will not blame anyone. I don't here the big problem is "crypto", There are many rules in a company and laws for a nation so in this specific case we cannot know exactly what happens.

 

I don't think so because crypto is not illegal in South Korea. I think what problem faces is he was caught playing games during working hours. I don't know who is right in this problem because we don't see it directly on that office. But, when the office wins this case on the court, that possible the employer is indeed guilty. even if they collude for each others, it would be better for him to look for another job, because this also concerns personal matters, maybe because there are other employees who are jealous of him so report it, and hope he got fired.

Once again we need more info about this case. First of all, the reason for being fired looks strange to me. It wasnt mentioned that he has been gambling during work or used work internet or devices to gamble. Then why this is a reason for being fired? How come bank even found out that guy was gambling? They were stalking and tracing him off work?  I think that should be illegal. Or the bank made a mistake when they hired him. Before being hired, that person must have gone through security service check, and as he was applying in a bank, they have done it very detailed investigation who their employee was. The bank must knew that he gambles. I think that fired person must have done something serious, and "gambling" + "crypto" were just an excuse o fire him.

As a taxi passenger, I felt uncomfortable riding in a car where the taxi driver was distracted by the game, what if he bet his entire salary and lost it while driving me. After that, he could become aggressive on the road, which would cause an accident. However, I don’t understand why there are so many gamblers in South Korea, can’t they understand how this business works and what they earn from them? Most likely, they want their lives to change quickly and become rich in an instant, so that they no longer have to work hard as a taxi driver. I would advise them to sometimes go in and see how much they have lost in total, to come down to earth and understand a lot.

It's not about crypto involvement with gambling; it's about not having work ethics. Doing the wrong thing at the right hours. You don't combine gambling with work during work hours. Never has it been done. Anyone who gets caught in such an act gets fired immediately because there are rules and regulations that every firm has that their workers must abide by, not to go against them. Not making use of a phone or feeling distracted by the phone may be one of them. Someone who calls himself or herself a banker shouldn't be found doing such during work hours except when their work that day is over, that's when they can be free to do whatever they please

You know, corporate rat race, in order to secure your position or get promotion, you need to make you looks good in front of people and make sure no one is better than you, which lead you will do everything for that. That's why colleague and friend are two different words, colleague isn't your friend, never share anything bad about you with them.

Yeah, there's another possibility the person done something serious, in order to kick someone you need to have a reason for that.

Will I get fired if I gamble during my coffee break? Or when I am waiting for others to do their part of job, so that I can start mine? Or suppose I am banks guard that works on night shifts. Technically I am at work or during working hours. In reality I have a moment when I have nothing to do. And suppose I use my own mobile to gamble. You want employee, that has a 8h working day work 480 minutes or 28800 seconds non-stop?

I think it makes a difference what games the employee played, if it was gambling, then it may simply be prohibited by bank rules, most likely it is prohibited for all bank employees. If it was some kind of regular games and he used crypto to buy artifacts, then it could be acceptable, but if that were the case, then you probably would not write about this case in the gambling section. Perhaps he is right that he did not play during working hours, but the essence in any case is not fully disclosed.

Firstly id there's a rule against crypto in such organization or the country as a whole, then we have a case with the bank but if otherwise then it's doesn't sounds justified for me. Gambling is a personal habit that should be kept away from a professional work space a d I believe that for the HR ro be aware then at some point at work he may have indulged in the gambling activity because I don't want to believe the HR came to his home and saw him gambling and to that to the workspace to penalize him, it may have inferred with work at some point so with or without crypto, there wouldn't have been a reconsideration because it may have interfared with his job at some point. But the crypto aspect could play a significant role in that of its prohibited.

He only want to support himself and not take the blame. He could have done everything in a good way but someone is not having right to be doing anything else while in work place. Even if he does it in a way it is not affecting the bank, the bank will still see it as irresponsible. Some people do make this mistake and they are sacked. Even it is wrong to be watching movies or doing anything else which is not about the bank in the bank while at work. Some people will only learn from the hard way before they will understand.

Pretty sure that there would really be those co-workers who would really be loving on telling something against you and will really be that having those kind of crab mentality behavior on which loving on trying out to destroy someones life via having those kind of giving information on the moment that they've seen their co-workers is dealing up into something. It cant really be that avoided but this one raises up some questions if this one happens on online gambling and someone told the HR about it then pretty sure that it will really be just that into that certain individual who do really knows on what you are doing. We do know that information will really be that easily to scattered out like a wildfire. This is why i dont really like when someone i do know will really be able to witness on whatever the things that i've been dealing into. There's always a chance or tendency where those informations will leaked out and will really be putting you up on harm. The thing i dont really like is that someone do really loves on involving into your life specially into the things that you are dealing with. You shall not really be that confident on trying out to tell everything specially into your co-workers on which you wont really be able to know on whose the one will really be that a good friend and a bad one.
The thing i dont really like on someone do knows that i do gamble is that people will always have that bad impressions towards you since they do focus out when it comes to addiction thing.

I work in a bank but I am one of the system administrators/network administrators so I know how to hide my traces despite a lot of syslog and monitoring servers in here. If they find out here also I risk being expelled so in the case of a normal worker if found out because of the monitoring systems it is only normal to being fired. In the bank where I work they have a very strict policy against using crypto let alone gambling with them.

Yes, that could happen to that employee because gambling can makes someone change and getting gambling addiction. He can use all of his money including his saving money to playing gambling because gambling can tempts him to continue playing gambling easily.
Even if he say that he can responsible when playing gambling but there is no guarantee he can still take care of himself. Maybe he need to reduce his gambling activity so he can still aware of the danger of playing gambling.
Whether if he use crypto or fiat money, he can get more problem from gambling. It is normal if his company fired him because the company don't want to get the problem from their employee who often playing gambling.

Hard to disclose something if we don't know the real case about the real reason about why he got fired. Provably playing crypto games is not the reason about it but the way how they deal with his activities and also performance to his work.

Crypto is not illegal in Korea so there's no reason for direct attack so provably the reason is the character or performance of that employee.

Maybe he's suffering from addiction and his employers see that he's a threat on his workplace that's why they do immediate action and take out that guy while its early also no crime has been committed yet.

Regardless of crypto or fiat, it's obvious that he is a habitual gambler as per his employee. And so with that he is being fired from his work because of this. And that's why we don't want to be really known by our employees that we are gambling even if you don't gamble during work hours.

And we all know that South Koreans could be really strict, that's why this guy is fired. Let this be a lesson though for others, when I was working, only a few friends knows that I gamble and no one really knows not even my boss or the HR manager. And it could be that his performance is going down because of his frequent gambling.

I can't take the guts of that employee when he raised it to the HR about the firing that's done to him. He deserved to be removed to his post when he's not doing his job and does something else. He's paid to work on working hours for his bank instead of playing some games even if there are no clients on that duty hours.

With or without crypto, his habits of gambling during working hours has made the company fire him from his job.

Yes, absolutely. I think crypto isn't the key word here. The bank said the he was "a habitual gambler", probably based on reports from other employees, and that's what was the reason of him losing his job. If he was just gambling for fun occasionally, no one would even notice that, but if you look like an addicted gambler to others, or like someone who can potentially get addicted, banks don't want to have such employees, it's understandable.

Hmm the case is a bit confusing, or he meant he gambled in his spare time and it did not interfere with the quality of his work, I think it should not have been a problem for the Bank, but the law says otherwise which ultimately decided to fire him, and also I think the dismissal had nothing to do with the crypto that was his gambling currency, but I will say a fairly reasonable reason why the bank ultimately fired him, here what we have to think about is that the bank is a company that manages finances, a lot of customer money is deposited and if it turns out that one of their employees likes to gamble then of course isn't there a possibility for him to one day try to embezzle his company's money with any scenario in order to continue to realize his desire to gamble? yes I think that is very possible to happen, and cases like that have also been discussed in this forum before about employees who use customer money to gamble and that's the reason.

It is against office ethics to be playing game on duty whether it is crypto related or not. The employee act would bring a dent on the institution if he was caught by a customer and it will show that he is not serious with work.
I believe the investigation should still be carried out to be sure since the guy gave reasons why he shouldn't be fired.

I don't know for sure what is the current situation in south Korea as regards to cryppt adoption in the country, if likely that crypto transactions is banned in that country same way it is banned here in Nigeria, then that must be the real reason why he was sacked or dismissed from working in the bank.

But then, I am still a bit confused, how was the bank able to catch him playing the game if he wasn't actually doing it during his work hours? Gambling during work hours is very unethical and shows great irresponsibility, doing this alone is enough to get one sacked from his place of work.
But assuming he wasnt really playing the game during his work hours, then it's highly possible that the government of South Korea have some restrictions on crypto transactions in the country, and for them to find a bank worker playing games using crypto, it simply means that the worker have violated the rule and law of his country, and that as well is enough to get him sacked from his job.

Crypto or fiat, as long as the concern is habitual gambling, then it will never be trusted by any bank or financial institution since his addiction will eventually lead him to make things that are definitely against the bank rules and policies. That’s why even if he is not gambling on working hours, the fact that he still falls to gambling addiction, then the bank should get rid of him. This is no longer about crypto gambling, but more on his future behavior in his present job when he can no longer control anymore his urge towards gambling.

Even if it is crypto that is the issue here. This person has become addicted to this habit and then he would always be caught playing the game during working duties. To be honest, most people don't know the reasons for online casinos. Privacy is one reason, and such gamblers can be doing those things in private instead of doing them publicly in working place. It's impossible to carry a physical casino into a private room or restroom to gamble but with an online casino I can do that. Sometimes, I book my games in the restroom. I understand that everyone has freedom of free will but not why you are working in a company. There are some rules that we ought to abide if not we can get sacked.

The former employee made 2 mistakes,

• 1. Gambling at work.
• 2. Filing a lawsuit.

Not sure if he will be fired or not because it all depends on the company's rules. If the company or company owner has set certain rules, he will still be fired even though he is not involved in crypto.
But if we assume that the reason for gambling with crypto made him fired, maybe this is related to the rules of South Korea. Because as far as I remember South Korea is only allowed to gamble at certain casino. CMIIW

Crypto has nothing to dso with the bank and the court's decision, the guy is working in a bank and some banks implement a work ethics that an employee must adhere as long as he is working in a bank.
The employee must at all times gain the trust of their employers and their clients, the clients and the employers will always have suspicious on the bank teller if he is an habitual casino player so the bank and the court did not err in renderingand holding their decision to fire the bank employee.

One can do anything in his personal life but if he does not use it in his professional life then it is not a crime for him. If he does not gamble while on duty at his workplace, i.e. the bank. In that case he should not have been fired. The bank officer thinks that since he is addicted to gambling, he can secretly interfere with the bank's money after he loses his personal money gambling. So he may be dismissed from the job due to such suspicion. And this is why one should not disclose one's gambling as it can cause us many problems

Cryptocurrency or not what you must know is that banks are very strict with their activities and doesn't want to jeopardize their clerical activities to that of gambling, the cause why he was fired not because of crypto but for having associated himself with gambling activities. Look there are every possibility he ( gambler was fired for having associated with gambling, and it's very risky to have such staff under them as he might gambles with customers funds) and this is very risky, so it's better to have him fired than trying to attempt such risk.

Incidents and cases like the OP described, according to my understanding it depends on the Bank's own policy, where if the Bank applies rules for employees not to gamble with crypto or not to gamble using fiat money of course the employee will also be fired.

Bank regulations in my country gamble is strictly prohibited by the bank, whatever type of gambling is online or offline, even if they play outside working hours or in the office, If it is discovered that dismissal is before the employee's eyes, then the Bank employees are truly free from gambling, such as alcohol and actions that are detrimental to themselves or the bank.

Man was gaming on the job and OP thinks he was fired due to using crypto lol. Pretty sure ANY job would punish you (firing you immediately is another thing) if you were caught to be gaming (or any non-work activity) during work hours. It's called "work hours" for a reason. Granted yes you can argue as long as they get the job done then all is good, then if so put it in the contract if you want that to be a guarantee? That they pay you for the work done, not for the hours spent. Dumb, yes, but hey, it's how Corpo works.

Probably more strict here since it's a bank job as well. Again, doesn't matter that it was crypto, a job is a job.

Well, you may be right after all, but then, if this really be the case, then the dude is possibly not sensible enough, knowing the kind of environment one works in should give him or her the sense of what to do and what not to do during work hours, the dude claim he wasn't gambling during work hours, and I my question was, and still is, how did the bank find him playing the game if he wasn't doing it around the bank premises which also means that he was at work at the time?

It is foolish of him to have even thought of opening a casino account on the banking premises at all, if he wanted to gamble, he would have patiently waited until he got home, but unfortunately for him, the deed is done, he should go hurting for another job again.

The dude is not sensible enough to know that gambling is not permitted in the banking system especially during work hours and another thing you must know is that in bank there are cameras stored to monitor people, more especially to track any illegal or a suspicious movement within and around the banking environments, this is to help alerts everyone and staff working under the bank about danger that is about to happened.

Firstly, you got to inquire to know if crypto is allowed in such country. If there exists any restrictions by the government against its use in that country then you shouldn't expect the bank to do otherwise, especially being engaged in by their employee, the bank would have no choice than to fire him under many other excuses patterning to his work effectiveness as a result of him gaming while at workplace.

Probably, the employee would have been cautioned prior to this time about gaming while at workplace be it his break time or not but he kinda failed to abide by it. I have no doubt, perhaps he could be having some addictive troubles with the said game and couldn't resist the urge of still playing it within the office environment even after the warning.

It’s actually better he got caught so he couldn’t cause more damage to the company or to himself financially. When someone can’t control themselves with gambling, that’s already gambling addiction, and there’s no room for addicts in a company that wants to keep a positive atmosphere. You know how it is - when a person’s addicted, they’re easily irritated and can’t focus well.

The bank employee most likely signs a contract with the employer and there everything is described in detail regarding all the points that concern even his extra-work hobbies, which can even indirectly affect his work, and passion for games can be such. If it was so important to him, it was worth taking care that it remained a secret, although I think that the contract should also have mentioned that he must report it. His decision to take the case to court looks strange, even in case of victory it would have greatly spoiled his relationships at work.

Depends actually. If you are gambling within the premises of your company then they have the rights to fire you although it is not stated. It might as well be a preference of your company and that's out of our hands. Hard to determine whether it is just because of the involvement of cryptocurrency which lead to this unfortunate outcome. It may also be due to restrictions on gambling activities in South Korea. Not quite sure but as far as I know it is prohibited to gamble in public, in this country, and there's a specific district wherein casinos are allowed to operate. With this, if you cannot limit yourself gambling outside the area where such activity is allowed, then you are basically committing a crime by letting them know. As others have mentioned, it could also be stated in his contract with the employer.

But at the end of the day, he's already fired. What's best is to learn from this instance and to just avoid doing it in front of other people to lessen the potential problem such as what he experienced. We all know gambling has a negative image to many countries and to be a responsible civilian, make sure you know the rules and to follow it.

He should've been sent to the jail instead of got fired because he broke the country laws. There's no correlation between broke country laws and banks, the banks only don't want to accept employees who're gambler. Someone should check all the device that used by the banks CEO, he might also a gambler.

What's exactly the mistake for filling a lawsuit? even you lose, it doesn't mean you're get punishment for that.[/list]

I think the bank's main fear was that its employees would gamble with the users'/customers' money. And to fire him was just a preventive move from the bank, i don't think it was a justified move, but for sure it was part of his contract.

And the fault was from the employee, he must be more careful with his gambling sessions. People didn't have to know about it.

Of course it was not funny at all...
Of course he was also smoking in the car and so on (for me it's really disgusting)
But when you are a foreigner, maybe you're tired and just want to go to sleep you don't waste time on such useless discussions...
However such politics linked to work activities and so on are always something "tricky". There are many rules, terms and so on... it's not easy at all have the "correct solution".

Why is nobody reading the article?


This was the main reason that he got fried not his personal gambling alone, it was a matter of security for the bak since his losses made him turn into a loan shark offering loans to the same clients the bank had, would you keep a guy like this employed at your company if you were the boss?


No, he wasn't! Even in the ruling, it was stated he did it outside work hours, but again, the problem was him contacting the clients directly for private deals.

There problem was not with gambling but I think it is one of those indifferent behavior from conventional banks that sees cryptocurrency as a threat. Most banks naturally do not like cryptocurrency as they see it as a threat to their control. In my country, some banks will freeze the account of anyone that put cryptocurrency in the transaction details which also shows that there is a kind of universal consensus among conventional banks against cryptocurrency. Although some liberal country will not allow the firing of the banker to stand especially as it has gone to court but in most countries, his fate will just be the same.

At first, I thought it was unfair to fire him, since he claimed not to be playing during working hours but then I learned he was loaning money to clients to fund his gambling addiction. As a bank employee, he should have followed the rules, no crypto gambling as it's against their financial venture.

The bank had to act fast to protect its reputation. His actions could have made people lose trust in the bank, that employees gamble with their money and adopt crypto gambling in a financial sector . The court even sided with the bank, showing there was strong evidence against him that was beyond gambling.

It's not just about crypto gambling; there was more to it. The bank did what was necessary to maintain its integrity in the face of the public.

Honestly it really feels like crypto itself added an extra layer of judgment here for that story especially. Traditional workplaces especially banks can still be pretty wary of crypto because of its connection with volatility and speculation. It’s almost like they hold a double standard and if he would been playing regular online games without crypto, would it have even raised an eyebrow for that activity?

This makes me and us all wonder if companies need clearer guidelines on what counts as undignified behavior outside of work. It seems unfair to fire someone over a private activity that didn’t interfere with their job performance and especially since he claims he wasn’t playing during work hours.

You would think that the verdict was unfair but uncovering more details will give you the reason why the court sided with the bank as they have other valid reasons for firing him. If it is the reputation of the bank which is at stake already, definitely, the bank should do something to protect their interest.

So it was not all about because of his crypto involvement with the gambling site but more on the loan aspect involving the bank clients.

In practice, an employer can fire any employee. To do this, it is enough to "take off the white gloves".

In many countries, the employee's rights are protected by law (Labor Code). In some cases, a trade union can intercede for the employee. However, in a direct conflict between an employer and an employee, the employer usually always wins (who can always involve the most qualified lawyers in the trial).

In this situation, it is also necessary to take into account that gambling using cryptocurrency is illegal in South Korea. The employee of the company did not gamble during working hours (however, he used a work computer to play).

South Korea is considered a democratic country, however, the laws in this country are very strict, and the courts often appeal to moral and ethical principles.

As much s I know, cryptocurrencies is not banned in South Korea rather the government implemented a policy for financial institutes not to facilitate on Crypto transactions just as it has been in so many countries like Nigeria.

So I think the banker was termed guilty of gambling with Crypto because the management could sense it as a possibility for the employee to execute crypto transactions with the banks facilities which we all know it is against the policies.

If the employee has actually gambled on "Crypto casino", the charge would not had held him or if he has gambled on "crypto casino" while at home, there would not had still been a charge against him.

Apparently, the management just fear that the employee could afford to bridge that policy so they have to sack him.

We don't have any other information then that crypto gambling is illegal in there. And trying to appeal to the fact that others play too isn't in any way an argument that would help the ex employee.

But if i play a devil's advocate here for a moment:  Even if crypto gambling would be legal, then someone with a job like "head of lending", would be soon flagged as they don't want that job to end up for someone who could be irresponsible with money, or could have gambling debts.

Bank relies on being trustworthy, and this gives a strong signal that they have ethical standards they want to keep. Because you want trusted law-abiding citizens to handle your money. If anything, having only employees with impeccable backgrounds and raises trust. This isn't an attack against crypto, this is just about optics. They want to send a message that they employ workers that following the rule of the law.

The employee shouldn’t have even gone on a gambling site during working hours, it will only show the bank how not concentrating he is on his work. If he’s a gambler and the site does not use crypto to bet, I don’t think it will stop him from being fired. The thing here is that, banks are not likened to gambling and will not want their employee to be an addict of it because of the position of job he’s into. We may also say that it was because the gambling site uses crypto to play bets that may have resulted to that, but there is no evidence whatsoever that may be the major cause of it. Banks are against gambling and they won’t tolerate their employee engaging in it because the addiction can lead to some setbacks for the bank if the employee can’t withhold himself not to transgress when he’s out of money and already addicted to it.

As an employee that's working for a corporate firm like a bank, there are some engagements that you're not expected to engage in during work hours as it breaches the conduct codes of your job. Again, I do tell gamblers that regardless of your profession, you should always be able to manage your time and know moments that you should engage in any gambling activity. I think the bank employee who was sacked for gambling rightly deserves to be fired since he/she decided to gamble during work hours. That's an unprofessional act and should be condemned by all and sundry

The fiat system doesn't have any correlation with crypto -- infact, crypto is on its way to replace 'em fiat currencies, which is why the institution decided to fire him for the insubordination.
Dude was only trying to entertain himself and, just like you said, it wasn't during work hours so I'm wondering how they got to realize this?
OP said his claims of not wagering on crypto games during work hours was what he defended himself with, so why are you saying he it was during work hours? Do y'all read properly at all?
Mhan, I'm sick of reading the same gibberish from these people... They don't even go through the links -- all they do is read the last comment instead of the OP.

I think the back staff is wrong in this situation. If indeed the employee gambled money which was his own and it did not interfered with his job within the bank, then what is the problem?
Perhaps the bank was afraid that employee could eventually use his position in the bank to use the money of clients to further push his gaming habit to new levels, levels beyond what we could describe as reasonable, still they did not have any evidence such a thing could happen in the future.

To me, this is just another classical example or stigma and discrimination against crypto gamblers.

Funnily enough, I have got a friend whose sister works on a bank and all bank employees are pretty much brainwashed on thinking Bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general is evil and only used to commit crimes and conceal black money from authorities.  ::)
That may be what happened to that man, his workplace was surrounded with ignorant people when comes to Bitcoin and gambling.

Assuming the extant laws frowns against gambling, the banks actually don't have that power to send him to jail or probably they didn't want to take it further not to raise dust about the reputation of their establishment regarding with the public might think about their workers as a whole

About the CEO, how do you know or come to assume such? Perhaps, he doesn't gamble and  abhors gambling himself which is what made them took such stand against the employee caught playing gambling games aside it been a crypto gambling thing.

It depends on the law but I think it could be very possible this was the case, we must remember that a person like that is trusted to perform its functions and even if they were under control of their gambling, doing so while being in such position could lead them to abuse it, an occurrence we have seen several times on the past, so banks are not going to take any risk and will fire any person they find to be a gambler, as they are legally responsible to protect the assets of their clients as much as they can.

most likely the management saw him as an unstable employee and saw him as a future threat. And where there are finances, everything should be strict, I see it that way.
In addition, there is a note from the court:
“Furthermore, since the  suffered a significant financial loss through gambling, it could have had a negative impact on their overall work efficiency. If an employee in the financial industry gambles, there is a high possibility that they will commit additional crimes such as embezzlement to recover their losses.”
They simply assessed all the risks and decided to fire him.

I don’t like employees that play games during their work hours also. It doesn’t matter what kind of game it is. They get distracted and do stupid stuff. The customer sees that he is not interested in serving him/her and leaves the store/bank. Then the store/bank loses a customer and customers are money.

If you are at work, you need to work. Play whatever game when you are home. Otherwise you might lose your job like this banker in OP.

What were this guy even thinking? He is dealing with his customers’ money. If he gets distracted because of the stupid game he plays, lots of people might get hurt.

Cryptocurrency has nothing to do with the case; its more on trust and breach of ethics if here is on a contract that he will abide by the highest standard of character and part of this is not being addicted to any form of gambling so even if its not Cryptocurrency the employer will still fire him and the judge will still side with the employer, he should know that he could get fired if the employers finds out so he should be very discreet in playing.

According to the article, gambling is not the cause.


But I would say there is probably more to what is in the story, maybe he has some issues with his fellow employees in the bank and the dislike about him causes HR to be alarmed. The workplace is not a safe place when you commit violations, you just don't know who are his friends and foes.

If I could remember correctly during employment or interview there is always a form filled by newly employee about gambling during hours this also likewise applicable to some other office work at my country especially my state were someone wouldn't gamble at work period or seen gambling in the working environment. Same thing is applicable to those who smoke, they warned many of their staffs not to smoke during working hours or either smoke inside bank. Any staff seen violation of most of their rules are mostly fired without given any grace and like banks I know the way they operate they don't usually gives second chance as they are more strict and straight forward than any other sectors.

Maybe the bank has made a rule that employees cannot play gambling during their tenure, especially when playing during working hours, so this is natural if he is fired because maybe the head of the bank is afraid that this will become an addiction and it will be difficult to stop or have an effect on his performance.

Agree with others, that this is not a matter of gambling with cryptocurrencies but because he gambled and got caught, that's all.
I don't know if some banks may allow gambling as long as it doesn't interfere with work, but every bank in the country has different regulations so gambling is prohibited for their employees.

He claims he was not gambling during his working hours, if that is true, then i don't think firing him for gambling is fair, as long as gambling is legal in the country and the employee hasn't run into any public problem because of gambling, then it does not interfere with his work, so he shouldn't be fired.

I guess there is surely more to this, the man may have broken other rules that led to him losing his job and he is trying to use only this page to gain sympathy.

I can't keep such worker who is on his own acting against the company's policy, even though he later involved himself with gambling that is already a red-flag for him. So I think that was the major issues why they filed him, for going against the company's policy. However, was he permitted to loan money to same client? Was that among the company's operational policy?

reading the article, the judge looks like he has a prejudice against gamblers in general and not just gamblers who are gambling in crypto casinos. that being said, the gambling was not the only issue in this case, in the article, it was mentioned that the ex-employee was found to be engaged in inappropriate private money lending with the bank’s loan clients.

There are so many investigations that banks conduct with their audits.

The article says - that its employees were involved in improper personal borrowing of money.
The bank claimed he was a regular gambler, although the employee claimed he played outside of working hours and never took advantage of crypto not being converted to fiat.
Crypto gambling in South Korea is banned.

Perhaps it was the court's full support for the bank that fired the employee, although the appeal was rejected.

After going through the link in the post, South Korea is a country that has made gambling illegal, so by engaging in gambling is already an offense on him that the court won’t have taken lightly when the case was brought forward to them. He may not be playing during work hours but another investigation led into his case proved that he has used his position in lending some money inappropriately and they term him as an habitual gambler. This is not to say it is because it is a crypto gambling site, he has other offenses that was used against him and lost the case in the court.

If the company gave you and employment later and stated that you can be fire without any explanation and for the interest of the company and you still went ahead to sign that paper and work with the company, regardless of what reason they sack you from your job, I don't you have any obligations to sue the company because you clearly signed the later with the implications that will come later. If that's the case of him, he can't win the case in my opinion.

I'm sure what other people might think but I feel there are some professions that you do, you have to make sure you don't mix your pleasure and business together. You can't be a bank worker and be gambling, you can actually but ur you are caught in any circumstances, then you have jeopardize your job that instant especially HR that is always looking for opportunities to sack people so they can bring in new people that are eager to take the job with passion.

The last person you want working in a bank is somebody that addicted to gambling that they are caught playing games on shift. These people will often have access to large amounts of money and bank accounts that could be manipulated if they had the wrong intentions. Gamblers can sometimes go off track when on a losing streak, which is almost inevitable, and there have been well publicized occasions in the past where people have stolen money to fund their addiction. There seems little chance of this person ever being kept on in a role that has them around large sums of money. While they claim to not have done it at work, I doubt his work would have been able to detect it otherwise.

For a gambler you need to have one thing which is freedom and for that, you have to do all that you can to be self employed, that means you are a boss of your own, because you can combine gambling with performance of duty and as you know, banking sector is an intense sectors that they pay close attention to they employees personal lifestyle and gambling is one activities that is mostly prohibited in many establishment, I can't blame the company for firing the employees if he is found wanting for violating the rulesets of the Bank.

Maybe yes. I could only see a couple of reasons why he got fired. First, the bank may have a strict rule that they are not accepting any crypto related transactions. So, as an employee of the bank, you should be one of the first people who will be a role model of it and not the one who breaks the rule first. Second, banks has always been strict with any gambling related money and they also don't like gambling. So, again, that's breaking their rules.
That guy could've just played at home and don't let anyone from his work place saw him playing/gambling with crypto.

I feel that he was fired more because he gambled not exactly because he was gambling with crypto. Gamblers are people that employers of labor usually fear especially when they are occupying positions where they can easily be tempted based on their exposure to finances and money. If I am the owner of such a bank I would also consider firing such an employee because even though there will be other gamblers in the company, this particular employee has allowed it to interfere with their work time.

The court was right to have fired him. See my comments after I had reread the story. I will also take from the details in the article:

1. He was already guilty of engaging in inappropriate private money lending” with the bank’s loan clients according to the report. This is very bad.
2. Gambling is Crypto gambling games are illegal in South Korea and more so according to the courts, gambling is immoral and should be condemned in itself. I don't see how he was going to beat this one no matter how good his actions or intentions was.
3. And lastly, the court concluded that he suffered a significant financial loss through gambling, it could have had a negative impact on their overall work efficiency. If an employee in the financial industry gambles, there is a high possibility that they will commit additional crimes such as embezzlement to recover their losses. And they are absolutely right. In such a sensitive position, it is only a matter of time before the habit goes out of control and leads him to commit a criminal act.

The employee has turned out to be a habitual gambler. He could've been watched by other employees, and this habit might trigger the other employees to gamble. Importantly, this will surely reflect on the effective functioning of the workspace. Even if he had used fiat, he could've been arrested. Banks find crypto as their rival, and he using it for his needs outside the office is different. Using during the work time is unfair, and he has been involved in different activities that ruin the bank's credibility. Also, his gambling is on the negative side, which might make him take money from the bank for his gambling needs. Considering all this, the employee was fired and not just for using crypto on gambling.

Yes, he could have still possibly gotten fired. I think in this case it's not just about the pattern of payment the gambling site accepts; it could possibly be that the employee hates everything that has to do with gambling, as they consider it a high risk for the employee to get involved in, even if they play it during off-duty hours. As long as they are still in the business facility, I believe the employer still has some say in what they do there.

https://cryptonews.com/news/s-korean-court-rules-in-favor-of-bank-who-fired-staffer-for-playing-crypto-games/

This above is the main set of reasons he was fired and the bank was already sensing his possible increased incompetence and had to launch an investigation into this conduct and found reasons to fire him. Gambling at work place can take away your focus and make you greatly underperform since you direct the attention you should give your work to gambling and over time, even without your knowledge gambling might have the better of you and your work keeps suffering it's effects.

Maybe in his future endeavours, he'll beware of the dangers of gambling at his workplace, the dismissal should be a lesson for him, if he really wants to learn.

The man's argument was that although he gambled on crypto-related sites, he never converted any of the games crypto assets into fiat. Considering the strong rules that South Korea has against cryptocurrency gambling, the man will be lucky to just get away with him being fired from his job.

For gambling, South Koreans can face long Jail time and pay huge fines, and these laws apply to South Koreans outside the country too, although I wonder how they can keep track of South Koreans outside the country.

This is not a recent case to the best of my knowledge. And he was indeed lucky to get away with a slap on the wrist as the legal luminaries would say. I also want to strongly believe that he is not the only person in the whole of South Korea working in the financial industry that is involved in this act. He is just the unfortunate one to get caught and used as a scapegoat. I have a small question though and that is what if he wasn't encountering consistent losses as cited by the court? Who he have been pardoned and reinstated back to his position as a staff of the organization or would he have received some compensation for being fired? What if the financial audit came report came back and found him to be clean. Would his gambling activities had been ignored?

The employee may have probably termed to gamble during a working hour instead of his free times.
Who know if he hasn't been on watchlist as a case of him repeatedly misconducting while at work.

That title is misleading. The bank employee wasn't fired simply because he/she was "playing crypto games". He/she was fired for a number of reasons. In the first place, he/she was a "habitual" gambler. Gambling itself is illegal in South Korea, save for some exceptions. Gambling with crypto, however, is completely illegal. That alone is enough reason for the employee to be called out. Not to mention that he/she's also involved in certain questionable practices involving the company.

It should be clarified yet this one is really that misleading because people will really be mainly thinking that crypto gambling or dealing is bad on which this will really be not that enough for someone to get fired. It is really just that a shallow reason on why he was really that being fired into his job on which same as you mentioned that this one talks about certain violations towards the company and other things which is really that against the government laws on which it's not really that shocking in regarding on the decisions had been made by the bank,also it's not ideal to file a case against if you do know that you are at fault. Lol

From this problem there is something a little confusing, namely how can HR or the bank know and claim that the employee is regular gambler if the employee says that he never plays during working hours.
Regarding the dismissal, it depends on the regulations or policies of the bank itself where the employee works, whether it prohibits all employees from gambling or not, and regarding the use of crypto, it is actually not problem and should be no involvement at all to problems that occur because crypto is just currency that is used.

The Court decided to give judgment against the employee because he violated some rules. It is risky to have a gambler as the head of lending in a bank. It was also reported that he engaged in private lending practice thereby defrauding the bank. From the article, crypto gambling is banned in South Korea. Maybe he was using other illegal means to engage in crypto gambling. Although the bank knew that his gambling activities didn't affect his performance the general view is that it is immoral for bankers to gamble. If they get addicted, they can easily engage in different sharp practices in the bank to fuel their addiction. 

This might be actually the reason but they are really that not making up some direct explaination but rather trying out to cover with those other legal aspects or approach but if we do really tend to dig in deeper then
we could really be able to tell that they might really be that trying to avoid on having some potential problems whenever that employee that gets addicted overtime.

Its true that whenever a certain individual becomes addicted then there's a chance or tendency that it might be using up on banks funds and that will really be that a huge problem to them. This is why they do take out
some advanced options on just simply firing up the employee on stop that possibilities that could happen ahead. In regarding about other issues then banks will really be definitely be trying out to erase those
potential risks that will really be affecting the institution.

I do agree on what Zadicar said above that its bit misleading because it wasnt that being explained well.

Wether crypto gambling or not, I believe he has been on surveillance for some time and yet he never noticed it until he was caught up. Though banks may not like crypto as it is a toun to there flesh but maybe not this time. The guy was gambling but has been captured unknowing to him. If he could have hold onto his gambling urge and did it at home it will be better than putting himself in to trouble while he actually knows the law or the policy backing them up.

Yes, this employee should fired from his job but if he can solve his gambling habit, maybe he deserve the second chance to fix the mistake. The company don't want to see their employee become addicted to gambling but if their employee can not understand this, the company can fired him. If that employee feels unfair about what the company do, he should realize his mistake and fix that so he can still work in that company and not use gambling too often. He should not risk his job because of his gambling habit. It is why he must know that his job is more important than his gambling activity.

I agree even though it's not gambling using crypto, of course it's still a violation in my opinion.
I call it a professional work attitude.
Wherever we work, of course professionalism cannot be disturbed. There are also some companies that even though our work is finished and still have a lot of free time, the company does not allow its employees to relax or even gamble. Moreover, this is also a banking company which is very contrary to crypto.

Yes, that's the point, I also have thoughts in that direction, in the sense that the only biggest reason why the bank decided to fire him was because of concerns regarding various possible actions that the person could take someday which of course could harm the bank, if you remember we once discussed the case of a bank employee who used his customer's money and that also happened in my country, so the decision to fire him was not because he gambled with cryptocurrency but because he had habits that could potentially harm the bank because after all gambling is an activity that is done with money, and I think this is the most appropriate decision that has been taken by the bank.

Are you saying, that if a man is using crypto or knows what it is, he isnt allowed to work in a bank? More silly is not allowing then to relax or gamble. If the person isnt gambling during surgery for example, then why it is bad? If that person slacks or does something parallel, other persons life is not in danger, then why its not allowed to gamble?

Since you have posted in crypto forum and in gambling section, this means you are not welcomed to work in financial sector or with finances. That is your logic. And you also sound like gambling is something bad.

I am entirely on the bank's side. We all understand the potential consequences of a gambling passion. Especially, such a passion can cause damage to the bank from a person who directly has access to funds. The article says this player was already caught in "improper private lending." It is worth understanding that he already had a gambling addiction and could spend the bank's money uncontrollably, covering his loans in any way. I think that regardless of whether the player played with cryptocurrency or fiat, the fact that he violated the gambling law, which is prohibited in his country, and the fact that he was addicted to games, all prompted the bank to refuse his services so as not to cause further harm to the bank.

I did add a link, sorry if it isn't visible but the blue colored text indicates that it directs you to the link of where I got this story.
Well he did say that it wasn't interfering with his job. Even though I get the logic that his character as a gambler does not make him trustworthy of an employee in a bank I am considering how many gamblers I know that are still in the financial sector. Injustice in the workplace is not very uncommon and I have personally seen it happen. Just the difference is that those gamblers are not gambling with crypto and they still have their job.

So, I did wonder if maybe crypto is also a part of this decision.

There is more to this case than just gambling. Although, it was reported that crypto gambling in its entirely is illegal in south Korea but there is additional offense committed by the victim as found in the report.
I think this is the genesis of the whole saga but find guilty of crypto gambling add sauce to the wound.

The court doesn't care as to whether he gamble during work hours or not.

This is the reason given by the court:

I will just assume the young man is careless with his gambling activities knowing the kind of country he lives and where he works and the the principles involved. Above all, he is unlucky for even attempting to file the case for redress but I hope it doesn't screw up his life.

I think that in this situation the bank might have had problems with loss of reputation because of this employee and naturally they decided to replace him with another one. Most likely, any manager would have done so, because no one wants to have an employee who at any moment can negatively affect the financial component of the bank and its reputation. That is why if you work in a team and gamble, then hide it from your colleagues because it is an additional risk that you do not need.

I agree that bank will suffer from reputation loss and possible a financial loss. This time they fire employee whos passion was gambling (I will repeat, he wasnt gambling during work according to article). Next time they will fire a person who will talk at work to much. Next victim will be those who have pauses to go to smoke or those who drink coffee to often. With such strict attitude to employees, they must provide more than sector average salary. Otherwise it will be hard for them to find a real professional for empty position. And once again, society act like gambling is something bad or illegal...

Not just that, it's a bank, means that they are holding a lot of money. We have a one case in the US wherein the lady was tempted to create a crimes that involves withdrawing money from their customer that went undetected for months before the relatives of one of the old lady found that out.

So there is risk of that kind of case of they will have employee that plays and gambles regardless if it is crypto or not. The most important thing is that their employee had a clean reputation, otherwise one mistakes it could trickle down to the bank itself.

If someone think that bank employee has access to bank or clients money, and without being spotted, can use them for gambling, then it is kind of 5 years old kid thinking. They cant access someone else account and without confirmation make transactions, and make it them untraceable. I dont think that employees, whos job tasks are connected with transactions, have PCs where everything isnt locked. I think that they have bank UI program that they can only selections options from the list, make minimum corrections or type something by hand, and as soon as they make something unusual, it triggers security.

Well, maybe this can happen in developed cities and countries, but in my country it is possible to take the cash register and put all the proceeds in a casino. Moreover, I read several such cases in the news every month, and what surprises me most is that young girls do it. I don’t want to say anything bad about them, but this is the highest degree of irresponsibility. Surely they thought that they had come up with a brilliant plan to take the proceeds and put them on red in roulette, and if red comes up and they win, then give the proceeds back, and then quit. Of course, there are stories when they succeed, but no one writes about them in the media, and she will not tell anyone about it. But if a different outcome happens and she loses, then everyone will know about it. It looks like she put her freedom on luck, this makes me very sad.

You talk about casinos and physical cash desk. In such case it is possible that employee will have a temptation to steal or use money (cash) for gambling. But in our case we have a bank, even a small bank branch is dotted with cameras, and back office employee computers are full with monitor programs. They can make a sniff without being noticed. Overall they have little free time at work to do something their own. Clients flow is unstoppable. Maximum what they can do is take their mobile and gamble on it during lunch break. But that is none of banks business what they do in their mobile. If the bank fired him for gambling on his own mobile, then it is obvious private life violation from bank side.

I believe that the company's and the court's decision would not change if the person had played with Fiat. Because the employee's biggest mistake is to play while he is working. But it also makes no sense to criticize cryptocurrencies, since nowadays cryptocurrencies have a wide adoption and I have never seen any cryptocurrency having legs and arms to commit a crime. Some people use cryptocurrencies to commit crimes, but that does not mean that cryptocurrencies have any problem. So bank employees and the court or anyone should not criticize cryptocurrencies.

It seems crypto and online gambling is banned in South Korea for citizens. Nationals can only gamble with small sums in few recognized fiat based casinos just for entertainment purposes. Which means gambling with crypto might be a legal grounds to sack the employee. There was no evidence that he gambled during works house and it also seems that his gambling active didn't affect his job performance negatively.

The pattern of using criminal activities as an excuse for banning crypto related activities is an old scheme. Fiat is more used by these criminals because it can not easily tracked.

I agree with you, because nothing would have changed if the employee had bet during work using fiat currencies. The management's attitude towards cryptocurrencies is very unreasonable and biased, which of course upsets me. But in fact, even if they don't like them, it doesn't mean that cryptocurrencies can't become a favorite tool and asset for people. And this employee could have simply been deprived of a bonus, but left at work, instead of immediately being fired. In general, you can't gamble at work, and even if the employee claims that it didn't interfere with the quality of work, I doubt that the driver of the autoboss can say the same, I would have refused to get into it if I knew that while driving, the driver would bet on his smartphone.

I want to be neutral in matters like this, we have heard the employee side of the story but the employers own side have not cleared and I won't say it's mainly because he was gambling with crypto that was shy they sacked him I think thats a no no for me, first and foremost we should understand that every establishment has a code of conduct or rule and regulations which all their employers must abide with, I think it would have been better if I asked the sacked employer some question directly, IMO I think that this employer was sacked because of his habit of continues gambling during work hours not because of crypto though I wasn't there but he shouldn't make it look like the financial institution management doesn't like crypto may be that's why they sacked him, for me, the employer wants sympathy but it's better for him to do it in the right way, he misplace priority in the fisrt place by gambling while in the office it doesn't matter they means he used in gambling and I believe he was sacked because the management see him as someone who is not disciplined, he claimed that his gambling activities was not affecting his duties, we wouldn't know how many times they have caught him in such act, may be even warned him, he may not want to tell people this side of the story.

Bank jobs have delicate functions as such no financial institution management will want to keep an employer that gambles while caring out his duty in the office, the question we should ask is what if such employer make mistake in balancing account or other things, let's not forget that gambling is an emotional thing so it's possible that he may do some funny thing one day if he continue working there, for him not to endure to gamble when he gets home, i think he is going too extreme whuch has to be checked too.
 

I think that since the judge in the trial seems to have a certain degree of prejudice against gambling itself, he would have just looked for another reason to ensure that the man standing trial gets some sort of punishment for just gambling itself. This is not strange because it has been a regular thing that we have often witnessed where some people stigmatize others who they know gamble and tag them as irresponsible.

When an employee have a gambling habit, that can gives him risk to get fired from his company. No company wants to see their employee involve in gambling especially if he is a habitual gambler because that means he often to playing gambling. He will just risk more and more money because he can be excessively when playing gambling. Even if he claim that he never played during work hours, that still difficult for someone because he can lose control during his gambling activity.

Even if he used fiat money to playing gambling, he still get in the trouble on his company. If he like to playing gambling, he must make sure that no one knows about his habit and must responsible to himself because gambling can makes him forget with anything. In the end, he can lose all of his money.

I don't think if crypto wasn't involved he wouldn't have been fired, every work environment or company has its own employee standards. It could be that in his workplace they are prohibited from gambling even though they still have good performance while working. So the conclusion is not because of crypto, but because he was the one who was doing the gambling activity.

I think it was absolutely unfair to fire this guy. I know how strong the discipline is in South Korea, and they are all workaholics there, just like the Japanese, but that doesn't give them the right to fire a person for playing in a crypto casino. I want to point out that it is incredibly difficult to find a good job in South Korea, and being fired there is a lot of stress, especially with a disciplinary violation mark in the work book. But what did this guy violate?

He is innocent and I think he was fired for far-fetched reasons. It's a shame that this happened to him.

I am sure the employee actually knows the reason he was fired. And if he filed the lawsuit, it made the bank's CEO more angry because it was clear he made a mistake but made a self defense with the hope of winning the lawsuit. For me it is a mistake.
This defense wasn't the best but he should have provided an explanation and asked for another chance to prove he wasn't gambling again at work.

Regardless of whether he gambled with crypto or not, but the company action to fire him was certainly right in my opinion,  we all know that gambling habits can indeed bring great risks to an employee, both in terms of financial and professional, so many companies actually implement strict policies regarding the behaviour of employees involved in gambling, Because there are many cases where employees who gamble will trigger a bad reputation for the company, including the possibility that he will use company money for gambling can happen, In addition, gambling can cause serious financial problems for everyone especially if he is just an employee who has a low salary, so will eventually disrupt his economy which can directly affect their emotional and professional stability at work.

Getting the employee fired has some advantages, a friend of mine told me that some employees in different banks are now using the funds of customers to gamble, i didn't believe it at first but coming across this thread has proven that it's actually true. Playing crypto games during work hours is a distraction that can cost a lot, a bank is always busy and in most cases all hands must be on deck for easy administrative functions. A banker gambling at work is a complete red flag to the company and firing the person seems harsh but that's what is needed to be done.

The former employee was the head of lending and the bank accused him of 'engaging in inappropriate private money lending', this is part of the reason why the employee was sacked, though the fact that he was a 'habitual gambler' was also a reason too. While reading the article, i also found this:
If all of these is true, the former employee cannot really complain that he was fired.

If it was on-the-job gambling then the bank authorities had the full rights to fire him but  for this the given employee had to caught directly  at "bust" rather than being suspected in nonappropriated  activity during his duty. Claiming that their employee is "a habitual gambler" and firing him solely on that ground  is the baseless allegation ^{in my view}.

I believe that is rather a rumor, because of several reasons, in my opinion. Most of the labor force within a back has to do with facing the costumers of the bank and do not have much to do with administrative roles within the bank itself, so the ability of the bulk of the bank to manage, move and steal money from costumers is actually limited, only someone within administrative levels and with a high position in the back could have the opportunity and ability to withdraw funds from the bank, without getting noticed by their superiors and bosses.
Even if an employee in a bank has gambling as a hobby it should not immediately raise a red flag about the institution itself, because gambling and any kind of activity we can do outside our work places, are part of our private life, and that is to be respected.

He was never going to win this case because habitual gambler was used here and if they proved it he was fighting a losing battle,  and Secondly when you are at work and doing personal stuff..that simply means you are stealing company time and getting paid for it!!

Sounds unfair I know but our friend should have waited for after work hours to gamble..Besides when a hack happens it's such people that put the network exposed to such risks.


Didn't see this part, if crypto is illegal in south korea then this could be what both HR and the court ruling was based on...if only he convinced HR for an internal disciplinary action this shouldn't have gone this far.

There is no such thing in any civilized country.
You people have become slaves to those ToS like it's some form of writing of God and once you accept it your soul becomes the property of whoever wrote that. In any country that is not a complete shithole a company can write whatever they want in that, they can even write that if you are late 1 minute you will be penalized by 6 months of wage, but that doesn't mean they could actually enforce that, the laws of a country are the first to be taken into account, not a contract between two persons if that clause is deemed illegal the company can't do a thing, even if you agreed with it.



He poached clients from the bank, probably for his own interest, or maybe offered them a better deal through a broker, normally he should have considered himself lucky and agreed to quit his job, not waste extra time in court.

The employee was involved first in fraud even before the gambling offenses, this is because he have used his office and position to take on some private loans and I believe he may have also used a lot of fake identity to take loans from the bank and gambling with it, this is not new and the reason why Bank put some stright rules in their employees term's of service and for sure we have all the time to make personal investigations about this case before we make any judgement or side any party in this case.
From the headline caption, one can have a misleading information in the Sense that, the headline make it looks and sounds as if the gambler was sacked because of engaging in gambling alone even though gambling at work is highly prohibited.

He have engage in other financial mismanagement and the Bank is already aware of all of that, and that is the main reason he have been put under investigation first before the final sack, and for me personally, I don't think anything is wrong with that, and even the country South Korea have also stright gambling laws that prevents citizens from gambling to some extent so he may not have any case against the Bank management even if the employees approach Court.

No, he would and should have gotten fired. Crypto was not at fault here.

If he were my employee, I would be quite angry with him and definitely he would be fired. But that is from my own personal and subjective perspective.

Would you want to pay money to such a lazy/useless worker, if he was playing Fifa instead of working, in place of gambling with crypto?

Yes, 100% without having any doubt that employee should have been fired.

I won't and even we're on the same page liking the same sports that I like to bet with. Working time is working time and it is intended to be for working and not for some recreation. I am not paying him to gamble but to for the job that he was hired for.

If i should be in the position of the bank manger, i would have do more than what happened there, because if we look into the banking job responsibility and service roles, we are going to discover that it takes more time, attentiveness and someone being calm and reserve to be a banker, not only that, one must be sound intellectually before he could be a gambler who is ready to make profits form his career, despite the all seriousness, some are still found making losses just because of some silly mistakes, not to talk of when a banker is now gambling while at work, it deserves what is more than sack.

Is the case related to the crypto regulations set there? or is it just HRD's personal view regarding gambling activities carried out by its employees?
If it is related to the misuse of employee work time used for gambling, it makes sense for HRD to give a warning or even dismiss. but if they can't prove it, maybe it's not fair to the employee.
or there is another possibility that there is indeed a company procedure that does not allow its employees to gamble. because there are indeed several cases of bank employees or companies who misuse company/customer money for gambling. the company may be more careful with the risks that the company may experience about its employees' gambling activities.

Crypto alone has nothing to do here.
I'm not a South Korean and can't definitely answer this question with 100% certainty but from a quick google search, it seems that gambling is not legal in South Korea, so, crypto gambling is definitely against the law.
Secondly, banks care about their own reputation. Sorry but if you are a bank employee and you gamble, if someone posts your image online, the bank might receive negative comments and many people may blame the bank for having a gambling addict employee. While that person might not be addict and/or his gambling doesn't affect his performance at work, the reality is that there are these standards in life.

It's true, but from his plea he mentioned that his gambling activities didn't affect the quality of his work. Probably, the bank are not comfortable with employees that bet, as it's very dangerous in a financial setting. Customers money would be at risk. His trouble wasn't just about gaming with crypto, but the negative aspect of gambling which the HR deem as not condusive to the bank.

I have relatives in banking and finance and so I will raise what I know of their business and employment rules.    The bank standing relies on integrity and respect, as such to be over drawn on even a personal account would be considered disciplinary offences and perhaps eventual dismissal.

The short story is because its a bank the rules are very strict, even gambling outside of work I can guess the employers may not approve at all.  To do so during work hours and within the work place is easily within dismissal by his work contract, I have little doubt the bank will never reverse their actions in that respect.   It is very hard but its the terms of the job, the bank requires the employees to act like saints basically.

Other jobs Ive heard of requiring similar hard terms would be police force, you cannot be seen to be in debt in any way and so on.  You must be on best behavior even outside of work etc.   Its hard but part of the job in many parts of the world and South Korea Im not that surprised, Ive read they have a very tough business ethic there often.


In his contract, Im guessing but a good guess they require no gambling.   So crypto isnt the main problem, extremely hard terms of employment some sectors of industry it is like this.

For now, it remains to be seen whether the bank employee participated in gambling during his duty? If he participates in gambling while on duty he must be charged with dereliction of duty and must be punished for it. I don't think it is appropriate to make him accountable if he has participated in gambling outside of duty hours. As a citizen he certainly has the right to spend his leisure time gambling and if he has to make this right subject to mandatory accountability then I would say the bank is not making the right decision.

If the employee really did play during non-working hours, then the employer's decision, as well as the court's, is most likely not entirely fair. Also, in my opinion, this is too strict a policy of the bank towards its employees. After all, the main thing is whether it somehow affects the employee's work or not. If the employee performs his duties well or even has some merits, then in general I do not see the need to fire for games. In addition, if he played from a work computer, then Internet access can be configured in such a way as to filter out unwanted sites. Why the bank took such extreme measures is not entirely clear.

I'm not sure what the rules are in Korea, are online games using cryptocurrencies prohibited there?

In this case, I think it's fair for the bank to fire its employee because he committed an illegal act and it's necessary to protect the institution's honor.

However, if this isn't illegal, then in my opinion the bank should never have fired this employee, much less for just cause. This considering that he never really played during working hours.

We currently live in a world where online games are increasingly "infiltrated" into our lives. At the same time that they become increasingly popular, other people who are against this habit are unable to adapt and live with people who gamble, this has created more and more friction in our communities. I believe that in this case, there could have been an agreement between the bank and its employee, without resorting to such drastic measures.

DIdnt have been able to clarify on online gambling but speaking about physical then it turned out to be of their main tourist attraction.

Gambling sector is closely monitored and regulated by the National Gaming control commission under#nbsp; and the government specially legislated certain types of gambling activities and supervised by relevant governmental institutes under National Gambling Control Act, such as:

the Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism regulates the South Korean casino industry, motorboat racing, cycle racing and sports promotion betting tickets (e.g., Sports Toto),
the Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs regulates horse racing and traditional bullfighting,
the Ministry of Strategy and Finance regulates lottery businesses.
Source: https://manimama.eu/online-gambling-regulation-in-south-korea/

I do highly doubt that they are against on crypto gambling on which this is something that they cant be able to regulate.

The company will not risk their employees to gets addicted to gambling. Even if their employee can take care of themselves while playing gambling, that doesn't means their employee can still take care of themselves in the other days. An employee needs to understand what the company will do to those who still playing gambling so they will not complaint because that is on the rules in the company. The employee must realizes that they are work with the company and should obey the rules. Besides that, the employee needs to understand what will happen to them if they lose their money or becomes addicted to gambling.

Yes, you are right. This needs to be clarified. You can't fire a person for spending his free time gambling. If so, the bank is wrong and will be obliged to apologize to the employee and reinstate him to the vacancy.

As I understand it, the bet was made on the fact that the game was played with crypto, which is unworthy in the bank's opinion. Seriously? Is this the very proof that the court took it into account? This is complete absurdity and nothing more. I just laugh at reading about this. What is happening to this world?

I think it's not the involvement of crypto that led to his dismissal of duties but rather the fact that it's an habitual gambler as stated it's more reasons to level any charges against him, basically because as a banker the finances ain't safe any longer cause he might one day loan from the bank to keep up his gambling habits and you know what that means, then using crypto as the in game currency is another charge cause we all know the challenges between the government and crypto community so they can go miles in bringing you down.

And as an employee then there's no way that you could really be able to find yourself having some fight when it comes into these kind of decisions like firing you out into your job or removing on which it will really be that a true disaster on this case. One of the most common action that they will really be doing is to remove someone who do have show signs of possible addiction and they do really just that making up some
excuse or alibi that the thing he had been doing is really that against certain laws and regulations but actually it is really that pertaining into something that do talks about possible addiction and could potentially ending up on using banks funds to feed up their addiction and this could really that likely to happen.

This can certainly happen, but we should not forget that many people and even quite gamblers still have some brakes in their heads and will not become criminals by actually stealing other people's money. But from the side of the HR department of any business and banks in general, first of all, very often certain psychological portraits of employees are created and they, among other things, seriously influence the decisions of employers to dismiss this or that employee simply on the basis of suspicions of the possibility that he will cross the line of what is permitted or, even more so, commit a crime.

So what the corporate rules should be then? Dont gamble with crypto at work? First of all, if employee managed to access gambling site by using company device (pc, laptop, tablet), then its admins fault that he does not restrict them or even made it free internet access for a device that is used to operate with banking software. If that employee has used his own device to gamble at work, that is not really a crime. Bank can not interfere in employee life. As well as bank should not give a damn about employees hobby, passion, maybe even addiction, as long as employee does his job perfectly.

company policy of prohibiting gambling among employees is a wise move as well as to anticipate bad things may happen to the company, I think that although a person may be able to keep himself in gambling but in fact it is not a reason to gamble at work, because gambling can have a significant negative impact, such as financial and mental health problems.  which can ultimately affect performance and produktivity in the workplace.

I think with the strict rules made by the company, actualy company is trying to protect employees from gambling risk and create a safer and health work environment, I think as An employee we also need to understand that these rules are made for maintain the integrity and reputation of the company.

It is not surprising that the bank will win the lawsuit because the legal system always does not work well anywhere. Regarding the employee who was now fired, it is very sad even though he said he did not do it during working hours, he still lost in court. I mean as long as he works well fulfilling the criteria of his duties then activities outside of work cannot be linked. Gambling it is his right based on his own will, but when the bank interferes it feels like there is something wrong with their law system.

FIrst of all is the staff playing the slot while he's work or just play outside the work. Because the company might fired you if you played game when the time is a "work time". If I the company Im not gonna fired anyone if they do thing outside the working hour even tho he still at the office.

There is a similar case involving gambling Former Maybank employee gets more than 3 years' jail for taking S$1.4 million from bank safe to gamble, clear debts https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/maybank-employee-jail-million-bank-safe-gamble-debts-2268831

If they can perform well to their job then its no sense for those employee to get fired. But if there's certain complication on the activities they have done and it cause their performance to sunk and didn't do anything right to his job and worse they are showing to much needy for money then provably I would do the same as what he's employer do.

Harmony and safety in workplace should be prioritize and I understand his employer want to get rid of any possible danger knowing that addicted gamblers can do anything just to get money to finance their activities and feed up their addiction.

Firstly there are no names in the article, so the news is difficult to digest at the moment for me.

Secondly, the story if true, the employee was giving out loans in private. If they were using the bank's money to do this, then it is a serious offence and the judgement would be justified.

So just the fact that someone is a gambler, does not dismiss them from their job, they were misusing funds from the institution.

All that assuming the story is true.

There is already complications right? the gambler is working on banks and could be holding money that is obviously not his. And so he can still performs his job but we don't know behind what he is doing with those money as they are temptations right? And probably the employer doesn't want to take that risk that he has a employee that is a known gambler and he could be attracted to the money, simply as that.

And we all know that employers have every right to terminated a employee because of the risk that it involved, so it jeopardizes his work specially if his position in handling money. So there is conflict of interest and it could result later in a fraud.

Banks as well as one of the pillars of the government, and so they held high standards and they don't want employees that are involved in gambling.

Since the employee claimed that his gambling habits did not affect his work hours, or he never gambled while on duty time, so I do not think that the employee should be fired just for gambling using crypto in his free time. However, in a country like South Korea where social and economic norms are quite strict, such things may not be acceptable to many institutions, And those institutions take this issue even more seriously. And that's why the negative perception about crypto and online gaming went against that employee, and the court ruled against him.

The title feels misleading, in my opinion. The news says the employee was fired for gambling - not just for playing crypto games. Playing games might be against company rules, but it’s not usually grounds for termination. This employee got caught, was terminated, and now he’s fighting for his “rights”? What a moron… it’s like he doesn’t realize that gambling on the job isn’t just unethical, it’s a serious offense. The company had to handle it accordingly.

Yes, the title should be slightly revised, such as changing it to "a bank employee was fired for being involved in gambling" and not for playing crypto games, the only thing that makes me agree with the company's decision is because there is a possibility for the employee to eventually gamble using company money secretly which of course will definitely harm the bank.

On the other hand, I don't think there will be a reasonable reason for the employee to be used as a defense in order to defend his rights, OP said that the person gambled outside of work hours and maybe that's what made him try to make a defense, but I think as I said above that one of the reasons why I agree with the bank's decision is that there is a possibility for the employee to eventually embezzle company money to gamble.

You're absolutely right! because as a bank employee he should have left his gambling attitude at home and focus on his job, then after closing from work he continues with his gambling attitude than for him to Lost his job just in the name of gambling addicted. Which is a very shameful thing to him, that's why is always necessary for us to control our gambling addiction whenever we're in our work place to avoid any embarrassment or sack. Because though as an employee in a company or banks whenever they noticed that you are a gambler they would be seeing you as someone that is not responsible and just that moment they wouldn't have any trust on you again.

The title is fine, the worker was actually banned for multiple reasons regarding to his level in the bank. And in South Korea crypto gambling is banned. Which is more reason why he was sacked. However, for the fact that he's in a department in charge of money and loan, the management are quite not safe with having an employee in such an office, that gambles. He could make mistakes in the future that could harm the success of the bank.

Apart from the fact the gambling was ban in that region, but even if it was not ban, it was not good morale on the part of employee to gamble within the office hours. The bank is paying to the employee to work in the bank and not to gamble or involve in other activities not related to job. However, if he was lucky he could have been given a warning but unfortunately a more aggressive decision was taken and he was expelled from the job.  :(

I believe every organization has its laws and policy and if his reason for being sacked is never in the policy of the organization, then they should not have sacked him or maybe they sacked him because they don't support crypto. If the man knew it was against the company policy to do such activities during work hours, then he is wrong.

I agree with you, especially a bank that certainly has rules in running operations, without it employees will not be disciplined in doing anything, it will be a problem if a worker plays unstructured gambling like at work, it will interfere with his focus.

This is not about the problem of games involving crypto but because of the rules of the company and it seems that they are very concerned about his behavior which makes a strong reason why he was fired.

Usually, institutions related to banking or government agencies will do the same thing as what happened in this thread. no matter if it's crypto or fiat currency, they don't hesitate to fire, especially if their employees play crypto games, especially those that have something to do with gambling. I don't know about many other countries, but in my country, this situation will clearly have fatal consequences for the worker. I tried to look at the information you shared, in it it was clearly stated, besides illegal crypto gambling in the country. In addition, the same news reported that the bank had started an investigation into the employee. So, it seems clear to strengthen the argument and even evidence that supports that the bank did not carelessly and deliberately fire him without concrete evidence. Here there is also another note that says, even if bank employees gamble outside of working hours and their activities do not directly interfere with work, they claim to be undignified. Even though, someone we are discussing in this thread claims that he is not a gambler. For this one, it's a little biased for me personally. It seems that there is an injustice if we cannot use our own rights and privacy even though it is related to gambling.  but the main thing in this discussion, the fact is that this man was caught red-handed playing crypto games while he was still at work. it is important for us to remind ourselves, avoid doing anything during work hours, especially related to betting in any currency. at least, integrity and professionalism in our work are highly respected.

Talking about warning, i know this will serve a very serious one to other gambler who are playing with their own jobs as well in this regard, when they know that they have nothing to fall back at if gone, imagine if they could be gambling only because they are making some earnings from the salary they were being paid, but now if the job is gone, could they also do as before gambling, how are they going to get the money for gambling when the source is all gone, we may just have to appreciate things we have before they left us.

Before the employer can take the case to court and other legal bodies and they turn him down, I believe the company is right for firing him as he could have broken the company policy for playing gambling on the company premises.
 
I don't think it has anything to do with crypto unless there is also another thing the company has against crypto. It's a common practice for companies to ban gambling activities to be carried out in their place of work even if the worker is on their break time.

The gambler who was get addicted to the gambling will play the game in the work place.So this incident was the example of the gambler who play the game in the office.So it was essential to the gambler to understand not to play the gambling in the work place.It help the gamblers to escape from the loss of their real job.The gambler should need to have a regular income to play in the gambling site.Without the money flow how they could continue their game in the gambling site.Also how the gambler would run their real life without the money to pay for the basic needs in their real life.

Conclusion is that he got fired for multitude of reasons and I do understand the decision of both the bank and the court. I am curious though if he was ever penalized if crypto gambling is banned and he was found participating in such activities? If not then he’s just lucky that all he got is a termination of contract.

It could have gotten a lot worse considering what he was doing in the bank. It can’t be helped that we have hobbies such as this but at least be careful not to get caught and be responsible. Don’t let it get in the way of your profession and personal life.

I don’t know if the person got fired just because he is using cryptocurrency to gamble, or maybe he was caught gambling at work, but I don’t think it’s because of the bank that’s involved that’s why the employee got fired. In most societies, people see gamblers as bad people, they see them as an irresponsible set of people, and all this is caused by addicted gamblers. We all know that addicted gamblers are ready to do anything just for them to make money and gamble with, and when a person like this is kept in an accounting section, they might end up tampering with their money.
 
Maybe the bank is just taking preventative measures, they don’t know if the person is addicted or not, and they don’t want the person to end up stealing from them and gambling with it, that’s why they just have to let him go.

Yes, he should be fired, this is for the sake of bank security, because he is a bank employee, of course he is surrounded by money, so it is very easy for him to steal, the law has made the right decision, I agree that he should be fired

It's not about the company not supporting crypto. It's about what the employee did for doing something else while at working hours while getting paid by the company. Whether he knew any policy or not, it's obvious that your hours should be rendered for things related to productivity for the company.

No, his penalty was that the court didn't do anything regarding his law suit on the bank. The jury insisted that he can't get back the job, as a result of the ban on crypto gambling. Normally his plea on being a responsible player that didn't cause harm to the firm's growth, should have gotten him a second chance.

I didn't read the article you included but the reason for his dismissal was definitely not because he gambled and used crypto, another reason for example the bank thought that employees who gambled had a bad impact on the company's image.

It's quite strange if he gambled using crypto how would the company know about his activities? is it possible that someone reported him, and his dismissal must have been based on company rules so there wasn't much the employee could do other than accept and look for work elsewhere which he might have difficulty getting because his case was exposed to the media.

But on the contrary in the article link above, the individual who was sacked claimed he wasn't gambling during working hours, of which sometimes it's hard to believe if he was lying or really saying the truth, because been a company he has work for many years, they woundn't have just sacked him if there wasn't any concrete reason for it. However, this should be a lesson to all of us on this forum, to sometimes keep what we do a little bit private, because you never can tell who is indeed happy for your progress or not. Because for this individual to have been sacked, it means there were people around him who made a report to the HM (i.e Head of Management).

Every corporate have its rules and that will be different from one to another. But they have the same rules that will prohibit their employee playing gambling, whether they use crypto or fiat. They are work in the corporate, and if they are doing other things besides working, that still break the rules, right? Maybe that will not a crime but we must understand about the point doing other activities that is not related with your work description is not allow. So even if he using his own device to gamble at work will not be allow because he is still in his work/office. That will be different if he is in public area or in his home. The rules is something that all employee needs to obey and HRD can do anything if they found their employee doing something that is not as their work description.

lol that’s so stupid just because it was crypto. If it was with cash I bet you the case might have gone in his favor. If this didn’t interfere with his hours or duties then whatever you do on your own time should be your own business but this is South Korea we are talking about here. I feel sorry for this man.

Correct. Whatever reason he has either it's crypto gambling or he is just playing online crypto games while using the bank's computer then it doesn't matter. It's work hours and it means he must do his job. Obviously, he is not working because he also told the judge that he ain't crypto gambling but only playing crypto games. That's a stupid thing to say and maybe he thought he could save his job by saying that since the only accusation to him was that he was playing crypto games.
He just made things worse by saying that and he probably be blacklisted by the bank to other banks so that they won't hire him when he tries to get a job again.

So what if a person takes out a loan from a bank? He didn't steal the money. He'll have to pay it back sooner or later. So I don't see any problem here. Why are you making it up out of thin air? So what if a bank employee is a gambler? Is that a reason for his dismissal? He didn't gamble during working hours, he did it after work. There's some murky story here, since most of the facts are not a reason for dismissal. Nonsense and nothing more.

Yes, just because of the fact that he's a habitual gambler. That's all.

I'm not an HR nor the owner of a bank, but maybe they see his habits on gambling as "detrimental" to the company hence, they fired him. They might think that this kind of thinking might affect his overall performance on his work that's why they fired him. I don't side anybody here, but the mere fact that even the judges sided on the bank is enough proof that this is over already. This is my first time seeing at an employee getting fired just because he's a habitual gambler, but nevertheless, it happened, and I believe there's a deeper story behind this one that isn't included in the article.

Moral lesson? Don't gamble if you're a bank employee. ;D ;D ;D Just kidding.

If it's the rule of the company, then the employee is at fault for playing around during working hours or for conducting some prohibited activities in the working environment. There are some company that doesn't want an employee to even perform a certain activity in the office premises, they don't care if it during work hour or free time but if such law is violated, it's an automatic sack. It happened to someone I know, who slept on duty and was warn twice but the last one was a permanent sack.

Yeah. Every company has certain requirements for employees. Somewhere they are tough and strict, somewhere softer. And this is especially true for banks and other business structures related to finance. Sometimes just a violation of the appearance or unkempt form of clothing accepted in the company are grounds for dismissal. By the way, banks usually have quite large salaries for employees, and there is also competition for jobs. And it is not surprising that an employee's passion for gambling, which the employer finds out about, is grounds for dismissal. Well, and even more so if the player played during working hours. By the way, in such matters, it is important to maintain the anonymity of the player so that the employer does not have reliable information about this employee's passion. And KYC checks almost always destroy such a player's disguise, which can clearly harm him both in stable work and when applying for a job and during an interview.

Wrong. I have number of tasks listed in my work contract that I had to do. However, if I am asked, I do extra tasks. But, according to what you have said, even going to WC, drinking coffee or walking out of the office take a parcel. Employer can prohibit me to gamble at work on working pc, but he can not prohibit me to gamble on my phone. First of all, how can he tell that I am gambling on my phone, but not answering work phone call or texting about the work? By sneaking into my mobile? That is not acceptable and allowed. Just understand, work/office is not a jail where employees must strictly obey rules and get punished when they do something besides working.

I have a great example at my work. We have actuary, whos tasks are to do annual and quarterly calculations. His works is dependable from data he gets; his work is dependable from other people work. He isnt busy all day long. Sometimes he comes to office for few hours to watch video and read news. If he wants, he can come and gamble all day. There are even times, when he works 3-5 days a month and get monthly salary. However, he can not be fired. Because when audit starts, company future and success is highly dependable from his calculations.

The employer made the right decision, firing the employee might have been a tough move but it had to be done. I know an organization that was completely disorganized because some employees were using the resources coming into the account to gamble and at the end of the day 50 percent of those funds couldn't be replaced, this led to a complete downfall to the company. An employer gambling on duty shows a sign of incompetence and a display of someone that cannot be trusted. People should know when to do some certain things, while you are at work ensure that you focus on your job.

I came across something similar to this and it was a little disturbing, I don't think it's ideal for an employee to do this because a bank is always crowded with people that needs to be attended to, how can a worker attend to his or her clients when they are focusing on gambling. It's not proper to gamble during work hours and in such a financial institute gambling habits cannot be condoned. Most people might say firing the employee wasn't really nice but this isn't something that should be treated lightly, perhaps he wasn't expecting to get caught while doing that.

There are many companies that make such regulations, but we currently do not know whether the company really restricts the activities of its employees or not because it is not certain as a whole, or it is pure because the bank owner hates crypto gamblers being in his environment which causes him to be fired, it can happen in fanatical environmental situations.
Regarding your case, it is very natural and it is something that company owners should do to their employees who cannot be managed even though they have been warned carefully several times before dismissal.

That is wrong in all matters if someone has done that during the working hours. It is unreasonable and unprofessional to do that.
Sometimes, the headlines are making crypto look bad by just tagging crypto on the title of their stories.
But in the entire story and articles they make, it's about the mistake and corrupt practices of the people involved on their written articles.

Let's even leave crypto games aside first. You are a banker and you know fully how banks don't like crypto activities due to conflict of interest from them and you couldn't hide it from them. He didn't think about that then couple with the fact that he gamble for a living. The bank saw a red flag and they dodge it immediately, no one can tell if he is going to use the customer money to gamble, it's possible and it's not but the bank has decide what they want.

I don't know if it's my toxic trait but asode my real guy that knows I bet on sports games, nobody around me knows that I gamble and it's not because I don't want them to know but people react differently when they know you gamble. I will rather do my thing with privacy than see your reactions, your awareness doesn't boost my chance of winning nether does it stop it from losing. Somethings are better left unknown by some people for your own good.

This is like a sign of gambling addiction though he may not have noticed it yet , but his gradually getting addicted to it without him knowing, because if he was actually doing it for fun why must it he his working place , it would have done it else, or his apartment
But no he couldn't wait and the painful part he lose his job and the game he where playing there's no guarantee of him winning. :)

Yes, because what is being discussed here is the fact the employee was a gambler. The fact the platform he was gambling dealed with crypto is just a secondary detail in the story. If he were gambling only with dollar or any other fiat currency, the bank would have fired him anyway, because they were fearful of having an addicted gambler dealing with huge sums of money inside the bank. We never know what an addicted gambler might do in order to fulfill his compulsive desires for this practice.

I think the bank was on their right to dismiss the employee thinking on their customers' security and also on the bank's safety. Of course they could have adopted another measures, such as providing treatment and therapy for the employee, so maybe he could get rid of this addiction, but they decided to go through the easiest and most direct route with the support of the court...

Now the man is on his own and will have to find a new job. With a history of gambling addiction, it can be pretty hard, though. So he should do his best to overcome this addiction.

The conduct in or outside work is what got him fired, a banking license is a sensitive thing in many regimes and if was contracted to stay away from gambling then that is enough for him to get dismissed.  His only path to strike the dismissal and claim compensation is the terms of the contract are unfair.   I find this path to be unlikely as banking is generally a sector demanding high standards in many different respects, an entire economy can be upset by a scandal in banking so it continues to be a sensitive topic.   2008 was an exaggeration of that topic but it should not be forgotten in any decade, then or now.

This is why he was dismissed as he broke a contract demanding strict behavior, his best path was to go IFA or some other finance route where he was self employed but within a bank its not uncommon to find these restrictions so he will not win imo.

For habitual gambling a bank can prove against its employee, yes, it will be fine and fair to fire such an employee. But that must have been after many unyielding warnings, you don't just fire your employees anyhow. The court can side with the bank because if care is not taken, such an employee may be desperate to use the customers' money to gamble, we've seen cases like that.

Again, the bank must have enough evidence to back its claims, otherwise, such a judgment pronouncement against the guy is unfair. However, for the court to pronounce the judgment on the grounds of cryptocurrency is certainly unfair, for this, if it is fiat, it could have played out differently. South Korea is a country where cryptocurrency is legal, the judge may be an anti-crypto person, who knows?

Since when gambling or being a gambler turns to be a reason to fire a person? From the article we know that, this person does not gamble at work, does his duties at work, did not cause any reputational or financial damage to the bank. Then why the company use gambling as a reason to fire him. Why do even a company use non work related information to fire a person. If they were afraid that there is a chance that this person will use bank funds in gambling (which is impossible to perform and stay unnoticed), then they should not even hire him.

You know, this is as if you were fired because you are familiar with crypto and post on crypto forum, because crypto is used to purchase something illegal. Or purchase crypto while being at work, even if you do it on your own mobile. Same situation. I just replaced gambling with crypto. Dont you think this would be unfair and illogical?

I often see such cases in the news feed. And of course, no client wants their money to be used like that. Probably the bank fired him because it was afraid that this employee could cause reputational damage to the company with such actions, which could cause them possible big losses in the future. But the problem is that the bank does not know if anyone else is playing, but still remains unnoticed, and in general this can happen to any bank and no one will be able to predict this, because it is impossible to read the thoughts of each employee.

The matter cannot be realized without knowing the real situation. There are many people who gamble but they don't gamble during work and some gamble even when they go to their workplace. A bank is generally a financial institution where people hold deposits and obviously that is recognize as sensitive place. But if any employee is proved to be addicted to gambling then the bank authorities must consider that matter seriously. Because no bank wants its bank's reputation to be ruined.

If the person is not an addicted gambler or is not gambling at work, how would others know that he is addicted or that he is gambling? I definitely think he gambled on duty too which is why such an allegation was made against him. I am not in favor of firing him without any prior confirmation. Authority should warn him first.

But what I found in the reference was that the work was related to unethical work which does not fall within the banking rules. He worked with bank clients on personal finance lines that no one would take lightly. It is logical to fire him in such a situation. But I think there is no big crime in gambling with crypto. But if crypto is illegal in that country then he can be prosecuted for it.

If that was the case, I wonder why he would charge the company to court while he was the one at fault. Probably he have money to spend or just want to show off, because he can not be wrong and yet want to justify his wrongs. Who does that?

I do not think it was because of cryptocurrency being involved that he was fired but because he has a habit that might put his job at risk. There are many stories of people using money that is not theirs for gambling and losing all. Do you want somebody that can do something like that to be incharge of a business that deals with people money. It was a correct decision for the bank to fire him and this will serve as a lesson to others. The banks are playing very good enough salary, so why will the bankers gamble or is he lacking money. If he is gambling as a hobby, it would have been kept secret and not to allow it get to the attention of the banks. He would have been gambling during work hours for him to be caught and gotten fired.

permanent employees even getting a big salary will not be enough for them even if they have a high position in banking, and not everyone gambles to make money in casinos, maybe looking for fun and others as their goal of gambling, and you also need to remember that not all banks pay their employees with high salaries, it depends on the minimum wage area and many more things need to be considered to see the size of your view.

Since this story seems incriminating to crypto engagement, maybe it's true what I mentioned earlier that they don't like crypto in the environment they grew up in.

Violating your company laws is what makes it look as if you are a child and don't understand the meaning of law, because if you do, you should know that such action might lead to a sack. I don't see anything wrong in what the bank did to that young man, because his actions shows that he doesn't care about what the his bank will do to him if they find out.

By concluding your story above, I think that this kind of dismissal action should be investigated first whether an employee really made a mistake by often playing online games during working hours or not. If the employee is caught playing online crypto games during break time and there is a friend who doesn't like crypto, maybe this is one of the factors that caused him to be fired because the friend has reported it to HRD and the company thinks that it is also gambling.
Indeed, an incident like this sounds very unkind to the employee who was fired, but there must be a special reason from the company that knows that their employee likes to play crypto so that the company takes a shortcut, namely direct dismissal.

In addition, an employer who finds out that an employee gambles using cryptocurrencies definitely means that this employee has the cryptocurrency itself and knows how to handle it.
And among the owners of cryptocurrencies, there are quite a lot of fairly wealthy people who simply made big X's on early investments, for example, in 2017-18. Everyone knows how much the price of cryptocurrency has risen over the past 7 years. And this can also cause suspicion on the part of the employer that the employee does not particularly need the earnings that he is paid at this place of work. And therefore, the employee's diligence in the performance of official duties may be reduced due to the fact that he has an alternative source of income in the form of cryptocurrency.
And this may just be an additional argument for the employer to make a decision to dismiss.

In this case, the first thing to do would be to study the bank's internal rules, employment agreement and similar regulations for the presence of a clause prohibiting employees from gambling. Especially, regarding crypto. This is a fairly new phenomenon in the financial sector and there are doubts that the bank's legal documents included a clause specifically about crypto.

If nowhere in the bank's rules was there a prohibition on gambling by employees, of course, outside of working hours (what business does the bank have what an employee does outside of working hours?), then this dismissal was completely biased.

And here your question is appropriate. I assume that if there had not been a clause about "crypto" in this story, the outcome of this court case could have been in favor of the "injured" bank employee. I assume that this was a "punitive and warning to all others" court decision.

Yes, not only does it look like a child but it also reflects that you are far from professional in the world of work, remember that companies implement regulations not to be violated but to keep the company running according to the planning that has been implemented, actually the one who is harmed here is yourself because the company can freely fire you and find other better employees, and that is why breaking the rules is a silly act that should be avoided if you really want to stay there.

On the other hand, I also agree with you that I don't see anything wrong with the decision taken by the  company to fire the employee, the first reason is because he violated the rules and the  second reason is that the man was identified as an addicted gambler which is  possible that in the end he tried to use company money to gamble.

I think there is a mixup here and I'm still trying hard to understand why they have to bring crypto this matter. On a norms, it is wrong for a bank employee to be playing bets while they are at workplace. We have heard of so many complaints and stories of employees withdrawaling money from the company's account to foot their gambling addiction. The bank did the right thing to have fired the employee because it is not part of the ethics of his job. Dismissal from work is the best option than to wait till things get worse where he could go as far as gambling at the presence of customers which can have a negative impact to the bank at large.

So, that's the vexatious part; both for the bank and the court as ruled. It's obvious why banks think they're in enmity with cryptos but I don't understand the hatred from the court on that. No one would be friendly with another they think wants to deprive them of goodies they've been enjoying. Nonetheless, we're still going to find banks turning back to using and allowing their customers indulge crypto transactions. It's the same objection crypto users face in my country with banks prohibiting crypto transactions.

I don't think cryptocurrency is the problem. No institution like that of the bank will be very comfortable to see their employee gambling ar work. I believe their is time for everything,  we need to know when should be the right time for gambling and it is not suppose to be in the work environment,  even if we want to gamble at work we need to be careful to make sure no one is aware of it because so many people have so much impression towards gamblers.

When the management notice an employee is a gambler they may think money in the bank is not safe because of how some gamblers can be desperate and go extra miles just to gamble by all means.

In my understanding, according to the bank's side he was removed from gambling, if the former employee was saying that he was not gambling during work hours, did the bank know that he loved gambling?

If I was on the part of the bank I would also remove the person, because the gambler should have done it and he would not have brought his habit to play gambling in his bank job.

In this context, whether it is because of gambling, whether it is because of crypto, whether it is because doing other activities is not allowed in the company environment, from here we can see that which is most likely to be the strongest reason to simplify the answer to this problem, even though all of them have the potential to be the reason why they were fired.

We can probably judge that the person who is in trouble here is the gambler, not because of gambling or cryptocurrencies, but he gambles in a place where gambling is prohibited, that's the conclusion if I see it. CMIIW

There are people that even caught in the act, they want to prove themselves that they've been caught wrongly. And with that, it's a normal due process to have themselves in defense, and for them not to tarnish their reputation, they have to defend themselves in all means. Whether they've got money or not, they have to do something so that it won't be putting a lifetime stain to their names and they can work again somewhere else after this issue that they've done against the company.

Even though there's no direct possession of crypto in the game as long as its linked with online gambling, still this employee will be subjected to bank code of conduct that prohibits an employee to avoid themselves of being engaged with. In this scenario he or she will be fired by violating this certain rules, specially during working hours. That massively unacceptable for a certain firm doing such irresponsible actions, involving gambling in a workplace.

I see the dismissal as unfair, really a person has fun as he wants, and it was clear that the person did not play during the work period, in other words, he respected it, but honestly some countries have some regulations that do not lead them anywhere, things are sometimes unfair, I think that everyone should do what they like, I do not see an infraction there, he is not doing any kind of harm to anyone, there are people who do worse things and keep their jobs, that is why this is Something that the Player did not Deserve.

There is actually a link embedded on one of the texts written by the OP. I'm not sure if there are some browsers that doesn't support it or you only mislooked it. Some users said that he did some illegal stuffs, so even if he said that he is only playing outside of work or working hours, it is still not enough for him to get away with the crimes that he did. The authorities know about his gambling habit after him get caught doing illegal acts. You know, they can do an interview and they will ask the people around those suspects. They are a good detective.

'With the bank's loan client'? I'm a bit confused with this one but I think you are saying that he is running his own lending service without the bank knowing it and he uses the money of the bank's customers? A normal person won't do a shady act like this, so yeah that he must have been involved in gambling and is now addicted on it.

Another violation he had there is when he used a crypto as a form of medium to play gambling. He did not know that this was illegal? Or maybe he knows it but continue on doing so, thinking this will make him anonymous. Besides, he already done a crime earlier, so it is now going to be easy for him to do another one. Right! we can blame the suspect but I think another that we can blame are those people (his colleagues) who already knows his secret, if ever they did not cooperate to the laws.

To be honest, we can't simply conclude that the bank fired him just because he was gambling with crypto.
I do get that some banks generally don't like crypto being used anywhere but reading your post it seems that the bank was mostly concerned with it's employee's gambling habits and not the currency being used.
May be the bank wanted to avoid the risk of customer's funds being used for gambling. It could be anything.

Yes, it is also quite a logical reason if HRD dismisses his employee because he knows that his employee has a lot of crypto and indirectly what is in the mind of a superior is that the employee is not an ordinary person so the superior should fire him so that he can find a suitable job in his field.
And the second reason I agree with you is that maybe in the mind of HRD the employee is working unprofessionally because he plays crypto still in the company environment so that it will interfere with maximum performance.

Online and crypto gambling is prohibited in South Korea, so the bank is concerned about its employees breaking the country's law. He may be using a VPN to bypass the restrictions. Customers put their money in banks because they believe it is safe with them. It will not be good for the reputation of the bank if customers become aware that a top bank official in charge of a very sensitive department is a big-time gambler. Therefore, I guess the bank is concerned with the gambling habit and the safety of customer's funds.    

This is a criminal offense. He is making the bank lose money meanwhile he is receiving his salary from them. This act is a good reason for him to lose his job.     

The question of labor productivity is definitely important. And if an employee constantly has thoughts about cryptocurrencies and gambling in his head, then labor productivity should also decrease a little if this person’s main job involves some calculations or contacts with other people and, in general, any activity related to receiving and processing information. All this, of course, justifies the employer’s decision to fire such an employee.

Yes, you are right, an employee who plays crypto at his workplace may always remember the cryptocurrency he has played before and this will greatly interfere with his performance in carrying out his duties at the company.
Because it is undeniable that cryptocurrency is very tempting to the faith of the players so that they are very enthusiastic about getting the luck of the cryptocurrency.
Such experiences must be a consideration for an employee if they want to play crypto, it is better to do it at home because it is safer and not everyone around them will know about the activity.

I think that it is equally important that the employer does not know that his employee has cryptocurrency and plays in a casino using cryptocurrency. This at least reduces the grounds for dismissal in the event that there is competition for a job with other applicants. And for this, of course, information about cryptocurrency and casino games should also be hidden from all employees at work simply because even if one of them finds out about it, the employer will still find out. Someone will definitely blab or deliberately tell the employer about such a passion of the employee.

Yes of course productivity is the main thing in the world of work, you are paid to complete a task given by the company, or simply the company will only pay you when they consider that the results of the work you do are worthy of being accepted, and of course you are right about the lack of focus due to other things such as gambling done by someone can indeed interfere with the productivity of a person's work which in the end the results of their work will not be optimal, especially if the type of work requires intelligence and focus of an employee. Basically mixing two or more activities at one time will never be good, the impact will definitely disrupt one of the activities and combining two or more activities at one time should not happen if only you can think wisely, because that way you will know which activities are more important to prioritize.

Then it is right to fire anyone who has a hobby or passion. Right? Because such person might think about it during working hours and his productivity will decrease. Right? From my perspective, if person is doing his job tasks, then there is no reason to fire him, except he makes company image harm, or strongly violate company inner rules. But to fire an employee, because during work he parallel think about gambling? I am sure when you work, you have lots of ideas and thoughts in your head, but nobody fire you for that. Take an average employee, when being at work, he thinks and wishes work to end as quick as possible, and thinks what he will be doing after work. And that employee also dreams about vacation. Think employer should fire him, because he is not thinking only about work?

He would have still been fired if crypto wasn't involved I think the reason why he was sacked is that as a banker you are dealing with public fund been addicted in gambling is like puting the reputation of the bank at risk because he has made gambling a habit, they the court should have still pardon him since he wasn't gambling during work hours which would have distracted him not to focus on the work he is doing rather than gambling but as a habitual gambler the chance of using people funds to gamble is could come through if proper care was not taken.
So that morel lesson here is that we shouldn't get addicted into gambling at the level of making it too known to people that you can't do without gambling and as banker it is very risky because you might be tempted to gamble with other people fund.

Yes you are right, it is better to hide our activities related to cryptocurrencies with our daily activities at work or other public places. because not everyone understands properly about cryptocurrencies themselves, especially if in our workplace with many people who have different thoughts and views, it is easy for them to assume that the cryptocurrencies we run will interfere with our performance and they are very enthusiastic in reporting to their superiors with unreasonable reasons.


Yes, to conclude your opinion above, I think it is unfair for an employee if the only reason he plays crypto games at work even though it is during break time because this also violates the rights of the provisions in the company's regulations.
Because logically when it's break time, employees can do all the activities they like, right?
Of course not, it is common for employees to have thoughts of wanting to go home and rest because maybe they are tired from working all day and dreaming of a vacation, just think of it as their enthusiasm for working to be more active and disciplined.

Anything you use to gamble will be a criminal activity. Moreover, if you just gamble without a job or work then that is the bad side of your spirit. But if you gamble while working for a company your boss will know. Because a company is usually controlled by cctv. So an addicted gambler is a harmful employee for a company because it can cause a lot of damage to the company. Whenever he gambles and loses again and again, his mentality may change and he may steal the company assets due to financial crisis.

Yes it is true if an employee of a company is addicted to gambling and if he gambles during his office hours and if his boss comes to know about it then it is normal that there may be a pressure on him. Because the owner of the company will have many things to think about including stealing money from the company by gambling and since the op's story mentions the guy who used to work at the bank this could be the case.  on the other hand, if he gambles with his own money and loses his money, he will become very depressed and misbehave with customers, which will ruin a company's reputation. For these reasons, an employee with a gambling addiction may be fired by his boss

Most likely the boss cannot find out if you are smart enough. I have worked in a bank as IT and I have kept gambling during work hours through my mobile phone in the wireless of the bank, segmented of course from the main network and no logging systems were in place there, it was free access to anyone, I had a privacy filter to the screen of my phone and I have gambled sitting near my colleagues of the department, they never know that I did this as I don't anymore, not because I am afraid or something though because brutally terrible luck happened at the office, my point is that only dumb employees can be caught, those who know their thing are extra hard to catch, not wanting to suggest anyone to gamble in the office, just want to show that is very much possible without consequences if you are smart enough.

As an IT then this wont really be that something a problem since you could really be able to make yourself that hide on specially on trying out to get away in someones eyes then you will really be that definitely be doing this but for those who dont have much idea or knowledge about computer network and potential being monitored then you will really be having this kind of possibility that you do get caught earlier,
for those someone whose really that having the speciality when it comes to connections and other computer stuffs then you will really be that not caught so easily. So this wont really be that much of an issue.
As for firing an employee because of that having some involvement with gambling then its not really that a surprising thing on which they will really be that focusing on trying out to avoid those potential risks
that there might be some misuse of banks funds to cater out someones greed or addiction.

By law in any country except most third world countries and even there maybe you get caught immediately as it goes against the bank policy to use the bank assets in your favor and to gamble there, that is huge stupidity being done by the guy who was caught gambling in the bank. You need to be desperate or have a huge level of addiction to be playing in such an institution and knowing your penalties if get caught, I don't see any other explanation to this. That is why it is preferable to only play on your device when it is not enrolled in some MDM (mobile device management) from the institution your work at and also to use your mobile data rather than the corporate network which as seen in this story can have really bad consequences on this bank worker. In our companies where we work is also very common to have people who do nothing all day except keep an eye of what workers are doing so it is never advisable to gamble in such institutions.

Gambling at duty post could be enticing with ugly consequences' like the one the banker in consideration had, when we are gambling, then we are sure that this is only but taking our total attention and concentrations, which means that everything regarding us will be affected at that particular moment as long as we are gambling for that time, in this, we did not have the privilege of knowing the exciting game that caused the gambler banker to lose his job.

If the gambler who play the gambling in the work place mean,where he do the shortage work.Seems this gambler was in support work of IT sector,if he is from development sector of IT.He will have any free time to play the gambling and he need to answer all the client questions.Or else this gambler should do the manual work for the survival,So he will have some additional time for the gambling.Secondly the gambler who play the game at the work place will place with pressure of being captured.So he will play the game with less concentration,the outcome of such game will be mostly negative at the end.

Its never been right not ethical on playing or doing something specially on your work hours. It is really just that common sense that you shouldnt really be doing anything in work hours. If you do get caught then expect on what would really be the consequences on which it will really be that a huge effect when it comes to your work and could be ending up on getting fired once you do get caught.

As a worker or employee then it will really be that understandable that we should really be that obeying companies rules or wherever we are really that working. On the time or moment that you do find yourself
dealing up with something which it might be that potentially a reason that you would be fired then its better to avoid it at all cost or trying out to deal up something in secret.
They are really that sensitive for their workers possible activity specially dealing up with gambling.

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It doesn't matter if he uses crypto or not, it was about gambling . They even said it themselves that he was found to be habitual gambler. They did not focus on the currency that was being used.

For a bank this is a liability as gamblers often fall into debt and people in debt may be trying to take advantage of their workplace, especially if that workplace happens to hold a lot of money ;)

Most of us don't know how the State works. The employee wouldn't.take the Bank to court in such case instead he would have moved on and invest in bitcoin with the small amount he.has gather from the bank and a worker. In private work or job, one day you will be fired. So you have to prepare your mind at all times. And probably he gambling openly which is the mistake he did. In this modern world where there are devices to login to the Internet and gamble any game of your choice without anyone knowing. And he an addicted gambler that was why people noticed him. Amd another thing is South Korea might be a crypto forbidden zone.

I believe that it would be the rule of their company to not gamble. I know that in my country, you can't get a job in the public sector if you have registered a casino account, you also can't get a job in the public sector if you have previously worked in a casino.

I think that in South Korea, in his bank, there would be a rule that prohibited gambling to employees and this user abandoned that rule, that's why he got kicked. Btw if you are someone in a high position, you aren't kicked that easily but I assume this person was an average employee. Crypto is not the case here, he would be kicked anyway but I don't know why the court sided with the bank, that's why I think it would be in TOS of the bank and they kicked him fairly.

If true that the bank worker was gambling during his or her working hours, then he/she wasn't doing the right thing because no matter the kind of job you do that provides income for you, you are not supposed to divide your attention. However, gamble is what supposed to be done at free time. Actually, the reason why the bank fired the worker that was gambling might probably be because he has been warned several times.
Yes, because gambling is gambling no matter what you staked with.

My appraisal of the laws in place for South Korea seem to allow crypto use but it is heavily regulated which is also true of banking due to its core structure within the economy.  They have not just normal legal requirements but demands by their central bank for exact protocol and adherence in business.

The most important details in this case remains the job responsibilities and sector.  To continue with his personal hobby of gambling would have been breaking a contract, not that I'm going to argue the contract is fair to him personal but professionally it would be upheld by a court as a valid agreement.
  Its not dissimilar to requirements in many banks all over the world, unfortunately it is a demanding job to do.

I think anything they were doing habitually that was taking away from their time at work would have gotten them fired.  Whether that is gambling, porn, video games, stocks, crypto trading, memes, nfts, etc.  I doubt his boss cared much what he was doing, only that he wasn't doing his work.  That makes you wonder if he were a high performing employee, what sort of nonsense would his employer put up with as far as gambling before letting him go.

That would be the grounds for their employer to fire that person. Since if they didn't see anything wrong and the person who's into that activities doesn't showing any bad performance on his job also risk for his fellow employee then for sure that they would never think or go into that situation to fire him out especially if the employee is good performer in his job.

But since the news spread out is the person get into that situation then I guess they cannot take it more longer and the management need to take action before everything goes worse.

People need to know that they should not let their selves caught up by addiction since it will really never give any good results to them.

When a thing turns habitual surely it'll kill time. One such thing had taken place with employee. It is not about gambling, as said whatever he had done apart from his assigned task during the work hours is going to stop his productivity as well as the progress of the firm. This is well understood by the Boss and he had fired the employee.

I said before that this mistake was not caused by gambling but by an employer's playing at the wrong time. The company should have a department that supervises workers and nurtures them if there are problems like this happen again, don't get fired right away before the issue is clear so that the situation can not make a one-sided disadvantage. A problem like this will occur happen on the next time if the company doesn't have a specific rule on how to work in that office because gambling sites around the world have been played very often by workers during working hours.

There is a lot of fear about a person who is addicted to gambling because when he does not have money, he will engage in various bad deeds to arrange money for gambling and will think of embezzling other people's money. I think it would be better for us to have no relationship with such a person. But yes, gambling is not a crime, but for that we have to enjoy gambling in our free time. There are some people who have lost all their money to gambling and become destitute, such people should quit gambling because they have become completely addicted to gambling. One should never become addicted to gambling because gambling can ruin our beauty and life.

Yes, all bad habits that are done during working hours will indeed result in decrease in worker productivity, especially if it is gambling activity, they will not focus on what to do because an employee must really maintain professional attitude and of course it is their own risk when the leadership takes some harsh consequences to their worker that makes mistakes.
But in context like this, no one will really know the truth except from the leader himself and his workers, anyone can lie.

Can you tell the difference between an office clerk and a banker, really? Why on earth did this employee suddenly become a banker? You have everything mixed up. No, this is something completely different. It is highly likely that he has been the target of a grudge for a long time and gambling became the reason for terminating his employment contract. It is much simpler than you think. This happens almost every day. I have witnessed such circumstances myself. Yes, it is unpleasant, but nothing can be done about it.

Still fired because the main problem here is that he gambled and it doesn't matter whether he played crypto games or not, gambling is still gambling, even though it doesn't affect work, when working we still have to remain professional and not involve personal pleasure. The court clearly favors the bank depending on the evidence provided which may be more burdensome for the worker and this can also be a lesson for other workers not to do personal things in their work.

A bank employee's involvement in gambling does not bring anything good. Especially the control power of people addicted to gambling is questionable. Due to addiction to gambling, there is a high possibility of an employee getting involved in unethical activities. Especially in the hands of a gambling bank officer, the bank's money can never be safe.

Being involved in cryptocurrency is not a cause for concern for the bank. If any employee of their bank gets involved in gambling, then it is essential for the bank authorities to take action against that employee, because the possibility of loss to the bank by this employee is very high. In this case, I think firing the employee is a good example or step.

And it is also worth remembering that many millions of people have the idea firmly ingrained in their heads that cryptocurrencies are used, as a rule, for criminal activity. And it is used only to hide money transfers. Despite the absurdity of such an attitude towards cryptocurrency in general, and despite the fact that fiat money, cash, for example, is much more often used by criminals, public opinion still gives cryptocurrencies such a "black mark".
By the way, this is also a very good argument for hiding information about your casino games with cryptocurrency payments from other employees at work and, accordingly, from your employer, of course.

You are already thinking your own story. It was never said that fired employee lacks self control and had gambling addiction. It was a regular guy, but you have created him as a uncontrollable addicted theft. Even if he steals money from the bank, that will be noticed by the end of the day. If you think that it is easy to steal from the bank when you work there, anyone would use that long time ago and all the banks would go bankrupt. The maximum real harm what such employee could do is to lose all his salary in gambling and borrow money from his colleagues all the time.

Yes, if that is related to work, we must be professional and not involve personal pleasure because our office can easily know what we do. Not to mention that many CCTV installed in every room in the office, which can be good evidence for the HRD to fire us. We can do our pleasure when we are at home because what we will do is not related to work so the office can not know what we are doing. We must avoid making a problem to our office because that can gives us more problems and office can fire us easily without listening to our reasons.

Of course, playing at work is too risky and I would not allow myself to do this, probably even at lunchtime if I were at work. But if I went to the canteen or a cafe that is in the next building, I could play. In any case, I do not like to play in such places. I prefer to play at home in a calm and relaxed atmosphere, so that nothing bothers me, this allows me to concentrate on the game and be completely immersed in it. Although I know for sure that many cannot resist the game and place bets at work, which interferes with their work process.

That's what the HR of the bank is avoiding. It's better to have the said banker sacked on time before the bank management begins to see the unethical activities of the banker using the people's money to gamble for more money to make in crypto gambling sites. Banks can not risk that. It's better not to have it happen than to be aware that one of the bankers has always gambled in his free time.

Anyone who understands how gambling works would kick against it in time for any gambler to work in a bank because there will be the temptation of the banker trying to use people's money to gamble, which they fall guilty of at any time.

True, regardless of the activity and even if the habit is a good habit or not risky, it is still a mistake if done at the wrong time, here we are talking about the world of work where of course there are regulations and demands from the company to an employee, remember that they pay you to work and not to break the rules so it is very natural if there are punishments or consequences when you break their rules such as in terms of time that you should use to work but you instead use that time to mix it with other activities that are your habits.

If I understood correctly, the employee was fired not because he gambled during working hours, but simply because he was addicted to gambling outside of working hours. Moreover, he tried to resolve this issue in court, because he believed that his addiction did not affect his ability to work. By the way, I would like to know the details of how they found out at work that he gambled, if he did not do it during working hours?

Bank are one of the busiest workplace and they have targets to achieve. They are ruthless in not letting the workers have spare time.
Another reason could be the gambling aspect. The bank is a sector where you could easily fraud and get some huge amount of quick cash. You'll get caught quick to but for a gambling addict, they don't see the bad aspect. I've seen people gamble the organization money in order to win big, a huge money means a larger bankroll and if they won and don't get caught, they could easily make it look like nothing happen but if they lose, that's the downfall. The bank might be being safe from such fraud as a person who gambles on office time could likely be a gambling addict.

even i predict that even if crypto was not involved in it, he would still be fired because of his gambling habits that could affect his performance and make others suffer the consequences of his gambling. you can see some stories of how bank employees embezzle customer money because they are in debt or other financial problems, and his gambling could potentially make him entangled in debt and if he is short-sighted he could steal money from his workplace. even though the banking decision is quite harsh, but for the common good it must be taken.

I honestly don't understand how this thing worked.Is it that the man is been monitored by his firm or organization,and to think that he actually didn't get fired was because he played on crypto.OR there could be several reasons best known to the firm.Anyways,anybody that goes against the working standards and etiquettes should be sanctioned as well.

Yes, besides that, wherever we work or socialize, we must also always be aware of the people around us because not everyone around us will do good, it could be a threat to us in the future. Regarding cryptocurrency, of course, everyone has different arguments, if someone thinks that cryptocurrency is part of a criminal act, in my opinion that person has not really understood the benefits or advantages of cryptocurrency today. It is clear that cryptocurrency is currently in great demand and sought after by cryptopers as a digital currency that is increasingly advanced and developing and people who are good at choosing cryptocurrency will have a lot of money because they use cryptocurrency correctly and appropriately.

It doesn't take much effort to find out one of the reasons that led to his dismissal:


Is he a member of this forum?

I don't agree with the dismissal, but unfortunately the bank will want employees who are more worthy of their role. The bank may have assessed the player's conduct as a threat to the institution.

We don't know if this organisation already have it rule but the gambler didn't stick to it. Even without rules when it comes to our various works, especially when we work under people we need to give every attention to focus on work because I don't think any employer will tolerate any of their workers doing somethings else that is inform of distraction.

An organisation that is handling money like the bank , i don't think they will be satisfied if they found out any of their workers will be gambling during the time of work. Gambling may even be a threat to the manager, especially if the manager is not a gambler, he will definitely have a different meaning to gamble because the way non gamblers sees gambling is different from the way we  gambler sees it.

Yes, threats can happen because their employees will eventually need money to keep playing when they lose.
There have been many cases of embezzlement of a bank's customer money and when they were caught they admitted to using customer money to gamble, start investing and trading in futures trading.

That's why banks prohibit their employees from playing on gambling sites or openly making risky trades.
This is actually about the SOPs that need to be obeyed as bank employees and as for what is prohibited, of course it should not be done.

If the activity that you are really that dealing into or doing such thing is already that becoming obvious that even your co-workers do able to see it and observed then its not shocking that those information
in regarding on what you are doing will really be that something that will really be talked into. On the moment that these information reached up into those who are sitting on the top or simply the management then
it will really be giving out that kind of reaction specially that you are working on a bank and you've been known to do gambling. Somehow it will really be just that too judgmental if they will really be firing up
someone immediately because they do gamble.

There are really some decisions on which it do really turned out to be too much on this case on which they wont really be thinking about into that particular persons financial situation
or condition and also come in mind that there's no one do the rights on doing on what they should be be doing with their money.

That is why we don't have to risks our job by playing gambling at office. We have a time to playing gambling when we are at home so we don't disturb anything and we can enjoy our time to playing gambling. At least, we can place our position in the office and leave the pleasure behinds us because we are busy with our work. We don't want to see the sadness because of losing the money because that can affect us easily and makes our mood change with fast. We know that playing gambling can tempts us easily and makes us to keep playing gambling more and more so we must be careful and not let us getting deeper in gambling.

But it is worth remembering how 8-10 years ago the media constantly reported on the criminal use of cryptocurrencies. Yes, perhaps even now cryptocurrency is often mentioned in connection with crimes and payment for all sorts of illegal actions in certain criminal groups. The processing of mass consciousness in this direction of "denigrating" cryptocurrencies and blockchain technologies in general still continues, in my opinion. Therefore, those people who do not have cryptocurrency in principle and are not interested in this technology at all, under the influence of the processing of consciousness by the media, a stable opinion has been created about the criminal nature of this money. And if your colleagues at work do not have cryptocurrency at all, then it is quite likely that, having learned about your payments in cryptocurrency, they will pawn you and inform your superiors.

Isnt employer should give no damn about what their employee does during their free time? Where is tolerance? Should employer fire anyone who has passion for something? For example never hire a guy whos passion is gym. Because at work he will think about his training program, might get injured at gym and miss work, will read bodybuilding forums during work. Dont forget that the story happened in South Korea, not in North Korea where everything is much strict.

Yes I agree with your statement only if the employee really does his usual activities in his spare time or outside of his working hours and if that is the case then of course it should not be a problem and will not result in dismissal, but if it turns out that he really violates company regulations in terms of time then of course the decision to dismiss is something that is reasonable to issue.
One thing I will say is that it is impossible for the company to issue a decision to dismiss the employee without reason, most likely regardless of whether he violates or not it seems because the object is the habit of being involved in gambling which is an activity that can only be done by spending some money while he works at a bank so that is the reason the bank prefers to dismiss him to minimize the possibility of unwanted things that could harm the company.

It's wrong for employees to engage in some activity during work hours but they still have their lives to live, they can do something at times during their free period during work time or break time, the nature of the job matters and so long as it doesn't affect their job performance, they are good to go in my opinion

Even this guy in the OP claimed that he didn't do it during the work hour and the court did not argue about that except for the use of cryptocurrency. But I wonder when cryptocurrency suddenly becomes an issue in a country like South Korea, if not that the judge is anti-crypto.

It has already been discussed earlier that the mention of cryptocurrency immediately creates negative associations with criminal activity in many people who are completely unfamiliar with it. So it all also depends on how a specific employer or even a judge, as you mentioned, treats cryptocurrency. And since the attitude of these people can be negative and they immediately associate such an employee with offenses and participation in illegal payments, then the decision to dismiss becomes quite natural.
And also the decision to reinstate in the position by a court decision, too.

It is a completely normal process when cryptocurrencies were previously presented on TV as something incomprehensible to people who are accustomed to traditional financial assets, and they also tried to denigrate them by saying that they are used for something bad. But we must not forget that the dollar is also used for something bad, but no one even talks about banning the dollar. If a fired employee had bet in dollars, he would also probably have been fired because gambling is prohibited in the workplace. In short, you can play, the main thing is that the employee was not noticed playing, lol.

Did he do this during the work process? If so, then it would be quite reasonable to fire this employee. Otherwise, I am on the side of the employee who is not guilty of anything, and this was the reason for the dismissal. Well, they just found something to cling to. You can't go to court empty-handed. So they found an explanation. A fairly banal case. This happens every day. Only the court became a third party and that is why this case received such resonance.

gambling is different from auctions or buying and selling, wherever gambling is prohibited in a company if caught then they will be dismissed, maybe rules have been made and gambling is strictly prohibited for employees because it can affect employee performance, this incident is not only in Korea and in my country there are also employees who are dismissed because they are involved in gambling,

I think this is a tricky situation, because in most jobs I don't think it would matter what the person is doing, most of the time.

But, in a place where the employee has access to financial information, when there's a gambling issue, it could be very bad for the business.

A gambler that is desperate will do anything, cook the books, etc, to try to get some money, and the business will likely be affected.

I think it shouldn't matter, but I can see why a business owner might want to protect his finances from a gambler, crypto, or fiat.

Isnt this stuff going against on someones privacy when it comes into the things when you are really that dealing up with something but there are really those instances on which there are those people who do
able to see or look up on what are the things you've been dealing. You are working in a bank and pretty sure that they will really be that too sensitive when it comes into this aspect on which
if they do know that their employees are really that dealing up with gambling then they would really be definitely making up some action on which they will really be that trying out to make up
some possible firing or giving some warnings because they are assuming about into other potential problems that might arise. There might be some other violations as well on which actions will really be that imposed.

They just noticed that he was playing, but if he had done it secretly, like thousands of the same workers in completely different workplaces, he would have continued to work quietly further at his workplace. Thanks to this story, many will now think about whether it is worth playing where it is prohibited in order to lose their jobs. Of course, there will be those who can easily find a new job, unless of course there is a note that the employee was fired for playing. Then after this, no one will want to hire him at all. In general, it is better to play at home and in a relaxed state than to strain and make even less profitable bets due to the constant fear of being discovered.

I didn't understand one thing, were they fired because they played while working or in general?
if they played at work i want say it's right
if they used it at home only then it seems like a lot of abuse to me and it could be fake news

However, I believe that this employee was unfairly detained and had the right to continue working. If a person is productive at work, he can do other things. Remember Dr. House and his bad manners, but he was productive! And isn't that the only thing required in the workplace? The main thing is to do your job well, and if the deadlines are not missed, then you can gamble or bet.
And there is a shortage of good workers in the world now.

Is gambling legal in your country? And those people who get dismissed gamble during work hours, break time, or when they are in their own comfort zone?

I'm asking because if gambling is legal in the country, the company can only restrict their employees not to gamble on their work premises, but whatever's done after that moment should be any of their concern unless they notice their behaviour having a negative impact on them towards their attitude to work.

Even if gambling is allowed in their country, it doesn't mean that the employees can only be restricted in their office itself. It doesn't look good for someone specially working on a bank to be known to be a gambler.

The reputation of the bank itself is on the line here and most likely before you are getting hired, there could be evaluations on you with regards to gambling that you are not aware of. So most likely this is what the bank holds and that's why they fired the employee for playing or gambling.

Well, the reason why the bank worker was fired is probably because of he was gambling at his or her working hours and that's bad. But the court decision is probably based on crypto involved, but since the bank worker claimed that his gambling actions didn't reduce his or her job qualitys they should have given him another chance as everyone deserves a second chance. But I am sure that if the ex bank worker was gambling at free time (like during break period) he wouldn't have been fired for gambling even though crypto currency was involved or not. What really makes the bank to fired him was because he gambled during his working hours.

Well I don't think this is a point of hate on cryptocurrency considering the presume rivalry of btc and fiat since bank is concerned but this is about negligence against due diligence. That layed off banker would have left traces that his gambling or life style after work hour was affecting his performance. In fact, they might have perceived him as a gambling addict that doesn't pay adequate attention to work details and customers, he may have being found wanting that made all the management members to decide letting him go. He would have been seen checking up on his phone series of times with complaints coming from colleagues even if he was not actually gambling but he would be addicted to his phone. For me, I don't believe an online addict gambler won't have to check on his phone during 8am - 4/5pm work hours for a week on a stretch, this is not possible  ;D.

If his performance was top notch then they won't take such decision and the illusion of crypto and fiat rivalry is adequately out of place because I have not read anywhere that banks had meeting on laying off workers found gambling with crypto.

In fact, his case is like a drunk whose performance at work is always affected because he is always found intoxicated. Of course, he would be sacked.

It would really be just that too shallow if they will really be just making those firing their employee if they wont really be seeing something serious or simply needs up some immediate action. If they do find out that your gambling activity is already coming into a point on which it is really that on the severe side then its normal that they would really be having those presumptions that it might getting worst even more as the time passes by and just like on what everyone is really that assuming into this point that on the moment that it do gets worst then there's the possibility that it would really be that having that kind of involvement on using up banks funds if a certain person or employee wont be able to control their gambling urge on which they will really be trying out to suppress out these things while its still early. If there are some alleged about some legal violations that it is really that attached into this one then it wont really be that shocking that there would really be that specific consequences to that, im not really just that aware on whats the laws about cryptocurrency on the said country whether they are really that against with it or not, but actually the reasons isnt really just that being too clear.

It's similar to the story i came across on the forum, a nurse was fired for gambling on duty, it's quite funny he did something like that knowing the vitality of his job..I don't blame the employer for firing this person because it's a sign of incompetence and lack of self-control.. This is why gambling should be kept private especially if you are the type of person that works in a cooperate or private firm , no One is stopping you from doing what you like but engaging in it during work hours can put clients in jeopardy.. firing the employee was a good decision.

Well, even if we conclude that the employee has nothing to be guilty about, but the fact remains that the employer is more powerful than the employee. So no matter how hard he will defend himself, as long as he’ll be the target of his employer for a dismissal, obviously the employee can’t do nothing about it, because even the court can be bought by its employer, just saying.

This can also be the case. Knowing the employee is a habitual gambler, which could then be a threat to the company once his habit cannot be controlled, so the bank has to decide to let go of its employee before its addiction will end up causing harm into other employees or to the company itself. Gambling addiction can never be good for any person, most especially to the employer since they are paying well the employee to perform its job.

Nowadays when we get into the office we're under surveillance. Maybe he could've been watched for a long time by the management. Maybe after a long time they could've found him to be a habitual gambler. When he is a habitual gambler, surely he'll face losses here and there. If there is continuous loss or disappointment with his bets getting lost, surely he'll get into frustration, and the same reflects on the work and the working atmosphere. Why to face such a problem, the management has made the right decision at the right time.

This is absolutely fair.
And if the employee is really good, the employer will not fire him without a good reason. But I suspect that in this case the employer will even turn a blind eye to such an employee's passion for gambling or, for example, his desire to constantly post something on social networks, although all this, of course, distracts from the main work. However, I also think that this is not the case that is discussed in this topic.

If you notice that he is gambling, then this completely changes the "rules of the game". Then it would be quite natural to fire such an employee. He should perform his duties at work, and not engage in gambling. Now the situation has become clearer, otherwise I somehow did not fully understand what happened.

And why not play at home? Is gambling really that addictive? Most likely, it is so, if a person cannot stop doing it even at work.

Of course, I do not know what nuances there are in the laws regarding cryptocurrencies, but it seems to me that the main reason for the dismissal was an online game. In this case, the bank's head of the dismissed employee had the right to assume the risks that the employee might be exposed to gambling addiction. As a result, it is possible that an employee could take some kind of loan to a front person and lose it. Or otherwise damage the bank because of your passion for the game. Online games, like gambling, can lead to gambling addiction.

Addiction most times can lead to many u expected disaster both mentally and physically. Why most gamblers ends up ruined is because the fail to see the fact that what ever you are doing that isn't a major factor of your well being, should not be allowed to affect your real life. If gambling is for fun like we do say, then why have fun during times when you are supposed to be serious.
During work hours, we can leave all that's concerned with gambling and focus on what is important, during break you can choose to go out and play a little or just rather leave the whole gaming idea till you get home. From the op, you can see how the employee claimed that he didn't gamble in his work hours but then he must have made it know that he is a gambler.

What about the moment when you are at work, but has nothing to do? When you have done every possible task, but can leave and go home? Or when your next job stage depends on the work others do -  for example you wait for other employee to finish managing table and send you data? Usually, during such moments employees read news or scroll their social pages. That is also not very acceptable by employers, but they close eyes on that. If "reading news, scrolling social media = not working", and "gambling = not working", then why only in second case employee was or should get fired.

For example right now I am waiting for database to maintain data, so that I could export it to excel and work with it. It might take from 15 to few hours to complete. While I am waiting, I am reading this forum, but also I could open casino page and "wait" there. Should I be fired for that?

Well crypto wouldn't really have anything to do with it and if the main reason is just because of gambling using crypto then it certainly doesn't make sense because crypto is just digital currency that is adopted for certain uses including gambling, but basically if the rules are clear then it all becomes the boss policy to do anything including dismissal.
If we talk about harming the bank maybe only in terms of declining performance but basically as long as someone gambles during work breaks like at lunch time then it won't affect anything, besides no one knows if he is an addict or not.

I really didn't get your point on this. Are you in the view that it was a wise decision to sack him because they suspected that he was gambling with crypto without evidence just for the hate of fiat or that they actually would prove that his attitude at work would have been causing a slow down to his performance at work because that is my view. I believe an addict would definitely go have a check on his phone to see what games he could have a stake on or to have a check on what is going on on the casino app and that could slow down his work. That is my view but I didn't get what you are trying to say buddy.

gambling is not legal in my country, if they play during breaks and do not interfere with work I think the dismissal will not take place, he was fired because of poor performance, involved in debt and the most sad thing is that his wife's assets were mortgaged for gambling capital, this case went to the company and the company did not approve of this and after being investigated he had been given warnings several times by the company, the last his wife reported that her husband was no longer conducive to working together in finance

If gambling is not legal in your country, which means the man is even committing offences for gambling and should have another problem one side with the law. 
 
On the other hand, with the full explanation that you just gave, I see no reason to blame the company management for dismissing him since his gambling activities have gotten out of hand. What he needs is help before he will expand his problem from not just affecting the family but also the company that hires him.

It is normal if the company fired their employee because a simple matters because that happens in many countries so we don't have to think much about that. Even if he can control himself in gambling, he can lose control and cause him losing his money. When a gambler lose their money, there will be a wanting to recover their losses so that means they can disturb their work in the office. The company will reminds their employee before they make a decision to that employee so the employee must be realize that they are works in an office so they don't have to use their time in office to playing gambling. They must realize that they have more time to playing gambling especially when they are in home.

When an activity is illegal, the person who wants to do it should not be so brazen as to do it in their own work. For me it shows a lack of Professionalism, ethics and maturity. I do not see any problem in playing. You can do it with Computer tools to Protect yourself, but you should not expose yourself. The company, according to what they have to comply with, should have done so in a forced manner because if they end up in the hands of controlling Entities , the Company pays for someone's mistake. But a country's perception of the game is thanks to its Rulers who , in the end , are the ones who set the rules, which sometimes do not even serve.

I feel the man might be an addicted gambler because he should have waited to close from work before gambling, maybe the manager is scared that the employee will one day use the company money to gamble just like what some people usually do. I don't support the fact that he was gambling on duty in the work premises.

Not to mention that, even if the employee sued the bank, the bank would never hire this employee again. So the bank will never lose out.

It's a fact today that a large part of the population is increasingly gambling and increasing the number of bets. This is not exclusive to this case, however, most don't gamble during working hours so as not to compromise their performance or they gamble without their boss knowing.

I believe that this type of news will become increasingly common (unfortunately).

Many the employer has seen him countless times gambling and has given him some warnings but he couldn't listen. I know that people are being warned before getting fired except in a case that could tarnish the organization or the company's reputation. It is not a good habit for someone to be gambling at work especially in the bank where customers can come in to lay complains. In the Bank setting ms, gambling is never advisable because if any customer gets to know about that, they may be scared that there money could be use for betting without the customer knowing.

It is really difficult to give an opinion on this matter whether he would have been fired from his job even if crypto was not involved. Because there are many facts that matter here, such as what their company policy says, what is in their company policy about gambling. Because if you look at it, gambling is still not considered right in many countries of the world. In most countries and organizations, there is a negative perception about gambling and this is seen a lot.
So it could be that he was fired just because of gambling. I don't think the crypto involved here matters much because currently, most online casinos accept crypto deposits.

In my opinion, not only crypto, but using local currency is also an undignified act, and I strongly agree that the bank employee was sent to prison, this step is to prevent theft of money in the future, this is just my assumption

If a bank client really sees a bank employee gambling during working hours, and even at the workplace, then this will clearly make a negative impression of the bank as a whole. And if the employee really was warned by the employer, but he did not give up such behavior and his gambling, then of course the employer must fulfill the promise and fire him.
Of course, you are also right that dismissal follows warnings and in the event that the employee did not listen to them.
And the second option is image dismissals, which follow immediately after some obvious negative behavior of the employee. For example, he commits a crime and the employer finds out about it. Naturally, the bank cannot afford to keep employees with a dubious reputation.

I know, it's no news that crypto is being painted black in many spheres, but in this case, I see no reason why a neutral judge would sentence someone due to his crypto involvement in a country like South Korea where cryptocurrency is legal. If not for personal hatred for cryptocurrency, no amount of allegation against crypto use by the employer against the employee should have warranted the judge to deliver such an unfavourable verdict against the employee. This was even painfully off the scope of the suit.

In theory, how can a bank client see what employee is doing at work, when they sit on different sides of the table. If employee turns his monitor, and while having a conversation or giving explanation, gambles parallel on banks PC, then that is unacceptable. But would an employee really be so stupid to do that? You are absolutely correct that bank should not keep an employee with dubious reputation, but bank should not hire such person at first place. If they really had such an employee, then its HR department fault for giving a green light when they hired him.

Well, yeah, if a person is using other people's money to gamble then that's illegal, it doesn't matter if it is crypto or fiat.

At the end of the day there will be other employees that don't have those inclinations, and I think most employers in the financial sector would prefer them.

Or in any sector really, as long as they have access to the money of the business the gambler will be tempted to take it.

It's a tricky situation really.

If he is not addicted to gambling and can controls his gambling activity, maybe his company will not fired from his job. But that will depends on the policy on his company because many companies will not let their employee have a problem in gambling.
But we agree that in most countries, gambling have a negative perception so they will not tolerates if they know their employee often playing gambling. Maybe it is not because of crypto that makes him fired but other reason that the company can finds it easily.
So if we are an employee in a company, we must obey the rules so we will not gets a problem.

The fault is not really with the crypto and I wonder why the focus should be on the crypto playing a role in this when the important point is that he was gambling online and if I am not mistaken gambling especially using crypto as a means of gambling is illegal there so it is quite natural that this is a big deal and not really with the crypto but with his online gambling.

There are a few reasons why the bank might have done this.  First, they are in a real risky scope where the daily lives of employees must be related to money and when there are employees who are proven to be active gamblers, it is indeed feared that this could have an impact on other things in the end, especially in the article explained when the banks audit found that the employee did several things including being involved in inappropriate personal money lending which made this even more difficult for the bank to accept.
But once again the focus should be on the gambling and other activities of the employee not on the crypto which is the tool used in the gambling he does.

Temptation—that’s the main concern of management, especially with all the reports of theft involving current employees caught up in gambling. Management likely just wants to prevent it from escalating rather than regret it later. There might already be reports about this individual, and it’s possible their performance is being affected. Gambling addiction can affect everyone both mentally and physically, and it is maybe that guy already showing something and reaching to the point where termination might be necessary.

Honestly, I don’t think it’s a harsh decision. Keeping them on could risk the company’s reputation, no matter how good they are at work. If I were the owner, I’d prioritize what’s best for the company over protecting someone who might jeopardize its future.

There are instances that it isnt related to gambling on where employees that do work into those firms or companies which does involved huge amount of money on which they do have those kind of tendency that they would really be that tempted on stealing or using up funds on which arent their or into the company itself. This is why on the moment that they have seen up some potential problems that might arise then
they would really be trying out to cut it mid way and this isnt something shocking for them to make up such decision. Yes, it might that sound conclusive or harsh specially if there would be no warnings but actually they are really just that trying out to protect the business yet any use of some funds will always that affect them out. So its better to get rid of it while its still early.

In employees POV then it will really be that something shocking that you will really be getting fired just because you've been dealing up with gambling. Yes, its really that too much in terms of decisions be made
but there's nothing we can do if they will really be having that kind of decision, this is why its really important that you will really be that secretive at least into the things that you are dealing into
because you dont know on what would happen specially into your work related into the activities that you are that involved into.

Many companies have special agreements about what employees are or are not allowed to do - even in their free time. I myself know bank employees who are not allowed to hold crypto assets such as Bitcoin. The bank cannot prove it (or only with great effort), but if it becomes known - for whatever reason - the employees are also dismissed.

In this case, it is even more understandable, as this could directly damage the company's reputation.

Yeah, it depends on the role and the company.

Specially if the employee would have access to the financials of the company, or private data, I think it is fair to have some kind of background check for the employee.

It can be a bit invasive of privacy, but at the same time I kind of understand it from the point of view of the employer.

At the end of the day the employee can always work at another company or industry.

Well, of course, if a judge strictly follows the laws of the country, which he is generally obliged to do simply by performing his official duties and simply based on his status and conscientious consideration of the case, then he should not in any way take into account his negative attitude towards cryptocurrency. Especially when it is legalized in the country and when judicial practice on crimes with cryptocurrency has already been established. But in general, it is difficult to judge the conscientiousness and honesty of a judge in advance, especially when potentially higher judicial authorities, up to the Supreme Court of the country, can challenge and overturn his decision. This is a painful blow to the reputation of the judge and this at the same time and often in some ways distorts the conscientious execution of justice as a whole.

Company needs to protect itself from possible intruder through the employees. So if the management sees something wrong with how that employee moves, they have all the rights to protect the company based on their policy and interest.

They are in the financial services and so it doesn't align with the behavior and activity of that employee. Also, much worse if that employee downloaded something such as a malware that could lead into the access of their very sensitive data unknowingly. Even if it's from his device but who knows if he's connected to their network.

Crypto as a threat has led to hatred, not just the bank rather the government and law is totally against crypto. I’m yet to research the relationship between both parties if the country is crypto friendly, I always believe the political system will not treat bitcoin same as fiat. Reading the explanation above it’s obvious the employee got fired due to gambling involving cryptocurrency, aside the issue stated gambling during free time at work is normal if only it’s allowed by the organization but, if the person in question knew the law perhaps avoiding such move sounds better.

They will really be doing all sorts of things on which it will really be that indeed protect the business totally and even if it means on firing out immediately that employee on the spot could really happen yet replacements will really be that easy to find. It might sounds harsh but they cant be able to risks out and would be just doing nothing into something that they do know that there's that probability that it could really be able to happen on which it will really be just that better to act fast rather than on being sorry in the end. If there are some stated violations on which a certain employee had done then there's no such explanation needed on why he/she was laid off.  This is why its really that at least put up into your mind that its better to be secretive into the things that you are dealing into because even people on your work
will be able to notice something that might affect out your work and their company will definitely be giving out such possible impact that will be causing on losing your job.

Yeah, that's fair enough, but actually downloading something into the company computers is something that many people would do, unfortunately.

It doesn't have anything to do with being an addicted gambler, many people will simply connect a USB they found on the street for example.

That is one of the simplest attacks someone can do and they are usually successful. People don't really think twice about those things.

Correct me if I am wrong, crypto was never banned in south Korea as per my investigation, or maybe I am not doing a better digging? I think this is all about playing games at working hour, even if it doesn't affect his work quality he might make some big mistakes some day, people need to learn how to be responsible, video games are good when you are on your free times not at work, even if you get a break from work it is still not good to pull out your Rog Ally or Legion go and start playing.

Also no one knows how trusty this person is at work, there are some past issues with companies data getting compromised only to find out that it was a inside job, you need to follow the rules of your company or avoid them, it is that simple, I don't see anything wrong with the way this guy is treated, it suits him right.

Those who connect unknown (and their own) USB devices to the computers of the company they work for are to blame for the fact that they are later fired.

Every normal company has a security department that will not allow negligent employees to play games on work equipment and download files that may be the intellectual property of the company.

Except the bank has a laid down policy against using crypto or gambling with it, I think that it's unfair to fire the worker because he gambled with crypto. Perhaps there's more to the story but if it's just him gambling with crypto, especially not doing so during work hours, then there must be something wrong somewhere. Perhaps the bank prohibits their employees from engaging in gambling, not specifically crypto gambling alone, then it'll make some sense. There's no competition between cryptocurrency and fiat currencies so normally the issue of bankers holding or spending cryptocurrency shouldn't be an issue.

True.

There have been instances and massive hacking that happens through irresponsible insertion of infected USBs or download of files with malware using the company's PC and resources.

This is what these companies are trying to avoid, they're doing everything for their best interest even if they trust their employees.

For gambling, big financial institutions will never allow you to gamble because they handle money and their main means of business is money. So if a bank officer is addicted to gambling, he will not be able to do the bank accounts and all the work there properly, he will always be inattentive to work, his mind will be on gambling. No matter what the man says here, he is addicted to gambling, he had to lose his job because of his gambling addiction, if he had not been addicted to gambling, he would have got a verdict in his favor in the court.

So even if his gambling had not involved crypto, he would still have been fired because the bank never allows any employee to gamble and their constitution may not allow it. However, he should have been gambling secretly at home for entertainment.

what the company does is cover the risk of its employees who may be addicted to gambling. because it can harm other employees, and even harm the company.
gambling is not the cause of an employee becoming bad. but the employee himself makes them bad at gambling.
gambling activities can be done secretly. that's when he first tried gambling. but when he played more often and started to get addicted, there would definitely be someone who would suspect him.

At the same time, the companies doing the most interesting work usually require running computers without too much restrictions.

And also people can end up copying data with different methods, USB just being a simple one.

You can use other methods, like Bluetooth, or even QR codes to transfer data.

This is to acknowledge that company rules are strictly enforced, with no exceptions for anyone. And honestly, I believe this is the best course of action. If I were in the employee’s shoes, I’d accept the consequences—at least the company would have valid reasons for their decision.

Gambling can give us moments of enjoyment, but it can also be the very thing that ruins our lives and reputation. Perhaps if there hadn’t been any negative reports about gambling involvement, issues like this wouldn’t even exist. However, it’s already been proven, and the company is simply taking steps to prevent potential problems in the future.

Gambling is prohibited in financial institutions due to the possibility of harm to the bank and other bank employees by gambling addicts or gambling employees. In South Korea, gambling is not only prohibited in one institution, but gambling is strictly prohibited for the entire country. Even though you are a South Korean bank employee, by engaging in gambling, you are not only violating the laws of the institution, but you are also violating the laws of the state. Gambling is prohibited in many countries of the world and there are strict penalties for gambling. In this case, I do not see anything special about a verdict against a bank employee in South Korea.

It does not matter what kind of currency he uses to gamble, he is a 'gambler', that is enough to rule against him and I think it is right. If he was not involved in gambling, the court would not have ruled against him or it would have been unfair to him if it had been ruled against him.

You sound like being a gambler or gambling in South Korea is a sentence to be jobless and cast away. And you are not fully true about gambling restriction is South Korea. Expats and tourists can gamble legally in any casino.

I still think that is unfair to fire a person because he has gambled at work. Employer must evaluate his performance at work, but not his hobby and how he spends his time. If he fails to do his work, after a warning he can be fired. If he does his work perfectly, and for example gambled on his mobile during lunch, then bank has no right to fire him.

You are absolutely right and I completely agree with you, but then on the other hand, it all depends on the terms and conditions writing on his employment letter and contract.

Some companies outrightly spell it out to you that they don't want to see you doing specific things in and around your work environment, "in and around" simply means that not even when it's your lunch time or break time should you be found doing that which you are told is restricted in and around work environment, and once you are caught doing that, it doesn't matter how good your performance is physically or on sheets, you will be outrightly sacked and there no two ways about it.

If this is the case here, then it's completely the fault of the employee that he is sacked, there is nothing to blame the employer for or wish they had checked before sacking him, rules are rules and when rules are not being enforced, people will keep taking it for granted and keep breaking it.

Firing someone is not the proper solution especially in this regard and without giving a direct notice is not advisable in any way. The bank employer may have done the thing he did by gambling during office hours, for which he could have been punished. But I think no one will agree to dismiss him from his job. But yes, if the bank has its own policy which is informed to that employee in advance, then there will not be much difficulty in dismissing him. But the real story may have changed differently which we do not know. I am sure that the banker was not punished for gambling, rather he was spending time on personal work during office hours, for which he will be punished. And since banking sites are a very important platform, employees should definitely work there with caution, otherwise the organization may face losses. He is guilty of wasting bank time, but there is no justification for convicting him for gambling or crypto gambling.

According to my personal opinion, I would say that the bank employee should have been charged by the authorities as he is a respectable bank official and it is not right for him to participate in such gambling. If the bank official is involved in crypto currency gambling then he should definitely be charged for violating the bank's policy. If the bank does not approve the transaction in the crypto currency, it is more reasonable to take the side of the court bank in the hearing in the case filed by the authorities. Since the transaction is not valid, the bank employee cannot participate in the game currency in gambling under any circumstances.

It was an unfair condition but one he agreed to as part of working in banking and its not even that abnormal to suffer harder conditions when in this kind of industry.  If you go into some jobs I'd agree they have great requirements that can even effect you outside of work hours, I wont argue its fair or even well compensated because thats not always true but the people working under that requirement did agree to follow the instructions for the good of the company.

   He took a risk not being found out basically, I cant sympathize too much that he was unlucky on this occasion.  I wouldnt say he broke any real law though, I think thats going too far just his contract.

Yes, without exception. Rules are rules, and that employees should comply to that. If the company sees you irresponsible of your position because you break the rules that the company has set for all its employees, then sorry to tell, you will be fired even without prior notice. It’s better to accept that, rather than fighting the case and still get charged in the end.

If I was an employer, I would only fire employee for 3 reasons:

1) his actions causes company lose money;
2) his actions causes reputational damage to company;
3) he isnt doing his tasks that are written in his contract (but as an employer, it will be my duty to provide him with tasks. Fire him because he isnt doing anything when there is nothing to do isnt the best reason);

If employee does not violate those things, he can do at work anything reasonable he wants. Play video games, gamble, go to work in swimming costume, anything. I would care only for my tasks to be done in time. How he would do it, that would be none of my business. If he is able to do all his job perfectly in 1h and rest 7h watch YouTube, then be my guest.

Moreover, the chances of suing for illegal dismissal in this particular case are quite difficult.
If the employer has documents, a contract or an addendum to the contract signed by the plaintiff, the dismissed employee, in which restrictions are written down even in a slightly vague form without an explicit mention of gambling, then all efforts of the dismissed employee to reinstate him in the position will probably be in vain.
And it will certainly not be possible to oblige the employer to reinstate him in the position.

You are right this had nothing to do with crypto he got fired because he was being irresponsible. A bank is a cordial firm or organization where everyone is supposed to do their jobs without indulging any form of distractions especially during work hours. To make this even worse he decided to gamble, this proves that he is incompetent and not disciplined enough for the job. He was caught gambling on duty by his employer, who knows what he would do next time if he wasn't fired. Sometimes taking tough decisions like that are for the greater good.

True, there might those kind of possibilities that it was really that included on the contract on which you have that able to sign it up and eventually be able to have those breach or violations basing up into the actions that you are really that currently dealing on with. We dont actually know those probabilities but it could really be that indeed happen. When it comes on being employee of a bank then it will really be that understandable that they will really be that strict when i comes into this aspect. This is why as a worker  then as much as possible on trying out to avoid these potential problems then you should do it.
They will reall be that sensitive whatever things that will really be getting involved into to those people who are inside the business or organization.

Business owners or institutions will really be that always give out priority on what are the things that could benefit out to them, and they will really be trying to get rid into those things that could potentially affect them ahead or later on. As being an employee on which you cant really be able to stop that gambling urge then the best thing you should be doing is to keep up your gambling activity as a secret.If everything is done via online or simply playing on online casinos then detecting you out will really be that hard but if you are dealing up with some physical ones then keeping it as a secret will really be that tough or almost close to impossible that you wont be caught.

From my perspective, that is not the entire story and it's possible he must have defaulted some policies but if he hasn't, its not the banks fault to have taken the decision they took. He might have been in his best behavior overtime and gamble responsibly but what the company fears is a time to come when he'll become addicted and eventually steal some money from the bank to fund his addiction. A gambler as an employee in such organizations is actually a threat to them. Its possible he doesn't have any intentions of getting addicted but change is constant and its better to avoid a hazard than overlook it because its not life threatening yet. They took the best decision to have sacked him.

I don’t know about such laws in banking system, first time i heard it, whatever is it laws only apply in south korea or other many countries?, in workplace such activities is really worst, because normally people’s take gambling as negatively, so we should keep it secret. Since I don't know about the laws of that country, i can't say whether there is such punishment due to gambling in office hours.

In my mind there is a difference if the employee is for example wasting time by browsing social media, news, or whatever, compared to gambling at work.

The person just simply wasting time is one thing, only time is wasted, not a huge deal.

The person gambling, on top of the time, is also a problem because they can potentially be in a situation in which they would desperately need access to money.

I think it is similar to a drug addict, which would be complicated not only for the drugs themselves, but for the lack of money to pay for the addiction...

However, it is most likely now possible to compare such actions as browsing social networks and viewing information about sports betting or simply gambling on a mobile phone or, for example, trading cryptocurrency that you own. In any case, this distracts the employee from performing his direct job responsibilities. And since working in a bank is, in any case, work in the field of information technology, then distraction by other studies of information content, including, of course, gambling, is a guaranteed distraction from the main work.
Well, of course, when, for example, trading or analyzing information on social networks, this is not the main work of this employee, prescribed and provided for in his contract.

As far as I know, not only does the government not allow gambling, but the people of the land of kimchi also have a very negative view of gambling. So I was not surprised by this news and even thought that this was a pretty light punishment for an employee caught gambling at work. South Korea is a pretty crypto-friendly country but very strict on gambling, so this guy's firing has nothing to do with crypto but gambling.

Not to mention, banking is an extremely sensitive field because it involves people's money, what if he is addicted to gambling and steals the bank's money to gamble? In my opinion, this guy deserves to be fired.

I don't think him being fired from the bank has anything to do with him betting with cryptocurrencies. The bank didn't like the fact that he was a gambler, regardless of what currency he was playing with. We have heard stories of gamblers stealing money to gamble. A few years ago, I read about a postman who robbed pensioners to bet their money on sports. This bank employee had access to sensitive information and handled money. They made the decision that they can no longer trust him with having access to their client's money. It's a sad story and unfortunate outcome, but the bank has to protect its interests in situations like that.

Wish story would be more full. South Koreans are not allowed to gamble, but foreigners can gamble in South Korea. Imagine how this story would look if fired employee was hired foreigner. I would also wish to know how exactly they found out he was a gambler. If he has used bank PC for gambling, that is inacceptable. If he has used his own mobile, then banks interference in private life in inacceptable.

When I was studying in university and passed practice in bank, was nearly impossible to do anything extraordinary with bank clients money for a regular employee. Higher bank stuff more rights and access, but they doubtfully would steal anything. So I would say that for a regular employee it is zero chance to steal and use money for gambling.

The person gambling can makes themselves in a trouble where they can difficult to solve it and that will be like a circle that will still like that. He need to break that circle by stopping his gambling habit and recovery his minds so he will not doing the same thing if he gets a new job. Gambling can tempting someone easily without he realize so he must be able to control his time and know when he can playing gambling. The best thing that he can use to playing gambling is when he comes back to his home and playing gambling at his room so no one will disturb and know if he is playing gambling. He must avoids from the addiction because that can makes him losses too much money.

Even if you are a foreigner, in addition to government regulations, you also need to comply with the regulations of the bank/company where you work. You are their employee and you need to follow their rules, and with the anti-gambling culture in Korea, it is no surprise that banks would prohibit gambling.

Whether he used the bank's computer or his phone to gamble, it was the same, since he gambled during working hours, his superiors had the right to handle it according to company regulations.

Stealing money from a bank/company is never easy but for a gambling addict with no money to gamble anything is possible.

What kind of thinking is that that if you are a foreigner working for a company you are excused from their laws??? I do not think that is how it works. If you are working in the country, you are most likely residing in that country, a company from that country pays you, you also benefit from the country's taxes so why should you be excused from following their rules? I know people who work overseas and they are protected at most but they are still expected to follow most of the general rules and regulations in the country where they are working in.
Is there no better motivation than money? Lol. A person hungry for money will do anything to get some food.

Yeah, that's true. Although those regulations will be different depending on which country or company you are working with.

I do agree that it is the same if he used his personal or company device. It's about what is happening in his mind at the end of the day.

Having a gambling addict working for you should be OK, as long as they don't have any kind of access to other people's money.

All employee duties are written in the contract regulations. Only there are specific definitions of what employees can and cannot do. If you do not follow this, the employer has the right to fire you. Therefore, I would strongly recommend reading it so that such situations do not happen later. Few people read such reading material, since there are too many letters written in it. And that's in vain. It was not invented for nothing.

That's a sign of irresponsibility, and that person can be a threat to the company, for example if I happen to have a company where we have everything to do with accounting, if I noticed that one of my employees is into gambling he will probably take some stupid risks in the future using money from the company, there are many cases of frauds like this from workers around the world.

I will surely sack him, even if you have a gambling addiction you should avoid gambling at work, you don't know who is watching, go home and fall into your addiction again, not at the office, you are risking your job it seems.

I believe this employee wasn’t fired because he was only gambling, I believe the main reason why he was fired was because he was playing CRYPTO GAMES, we all know by now how much Banks, Financial institutions and even the governments despise anything that has to do with CRYPTO, it’s like a major competition for them because crypto goes against the major thing they stand for, which is Centralization and so banks would expect some loyalty from their employees, so seeing one their workers indulging in crypto games simply means the person is a supporter of crypto, which also means he’s for them and at the same time against them. I believe that’s why he got fired, not just because he’s gambling.

Of course you would have fired him if you had found out about his addiction, apparently his mistake was that somehow it became known, otherwise he would have continued working for this company until now and it would not have been a problem for anyone.

Especially since it was mentioned that he never gambled during working hours and it did not harm his work in any way. I think that it is possible to combine work and gambling so that it would not be a hindrance to either family or work, especially if he could make a profit from gambling.

In this whole discussion of people's passion for gambling and the potential harm and problems that this passion can bring to a person, the important question is how the employer received information that his employee is a gambler. And here the ability to play in a casino anonymously immediately seems very important, which is not always done and sometimes entails negative consequences, for example, the requirement to de-anonymize according to KYC in the event of a large win. And many players, knowing in principle the negative attitude of others to their passion, would prefer to remain anonymous. And this would help this employee, by the way, and the employer would not have such information and, accordingly, grounds for dismissal too.

That is totally not banks business what I am doing with in my phone. That is a violation of privacy. How would they even find out that I am gambling on my phone? By looking on the screen? If that is ok, then it would be ok to browse my chats and phone call list? Absolutely not. An employee is not a slave that has no right to spend a minute to take a rest. Then everyone should immediately get fired as soon as they went to a toilet to get a cup of water.

For addicted anything is possible, but from my experience, to steal from bank, where cash is monitored by dozens of cameras, and UI wont allow to make a transaction to a random account without receiving a permission, is close to impossible. Imo the maximum what addicted can steal is money from his colleagues.

You are indeed right, a person has the right to be at least minimally distracted, the main thing is that he can perform his duties well and this does not affect the final result. If all workers are driven into a corner by an employment contract in which nothing can be done, then they will turn into slaves. It is very important that this line is not violated, because such things cause great depression among workers, which will subsequently have a very destructive effect on their lives. Maintaining a balance is the main thing.

An employer must evaluate employees performance at work and only based on that he can make a decision to fire or keep that employee. If the bank spied what employees do in their mobile, and that can be a reason to fire an employee, then clients should run from that bank. All starts from little things. That their inner incident became public. They could have fired him silently. If they spy on employees, then there is a chance that they can use other private data, for example customers account expenses, for their benefits.

Although it never harms the company or interferes with their work, it is still very risky to retain an addicted employee. However, there may be a special approach before deciding to fire him, such as whether he can change his addiction or not.
I have heard many cases where someone uses company money or uses money that is not theirs to gamble because of their addiction. Maybe at first it was okay when they still had money to play, but when their assets are gone, they will start to dare to use any money to gamble.

The thing is, banks hire and pay you to work for them, they don't hire and pay you to gamble at work and during work hours. If you want to gamble or do anything on your phone, do it at home during your break or anywhere else, not at work and during work hours.

If you were a boss, would you be happy to spend money to hire employees but they do not work hard and only spend time gambling during working hours?
Don't compare going to the toilet, drinking water... with gambling during work hours, that's pretty lame.

Whether it is customer money or co-workers money, it is theft and is taboo in the company. That is why every company has its own rules and regulations that employees need to follow, we need to take preventive measures instead of letting things happen and then trying to solve them.

I totally agree with you, and I think people who gamble and play in places they shouldn't are immature gamblers. And gambling at work or during working hours is a big mistake and is very risky to be dismissed dishonorably or get a severe warning letter, and the question is whether the person does not think about the risks that will occur if caught and this is the same as a gambling addiction that doesn't care where he is and the risks.
And I think other companies will do the same thing, companies that will pay you at the specified working hours that must be obeyed and also done well while working, and when working hours are ignored with bad things including gambling then the company will be angry. Gamble wisely without harming any party and gamble in a calm, comfortable and safe state so that you can enjoy the game well and not while working which I think you are required to focus on working.

When we work for other people or companies then there are written and unwritten rules that we should obey for the good of us and also the place we work, although maybe gambling is our right and privacy but at least we don't do it at work, because it will only damage our reputation and also the place we work, in my opinion, it is important to maintain integrity and trust in the work environment, especially in sensitive areas such as finance, because Employees who Engage in gambling in the workplace can pose a big risk and we even often hear and read news how an employee uses company money to gamble, so I think the action of dismissal and also blacklist the employee can be a solution and also a lesson for other employees not to do the same.

The logic here is pretty simple because,  although privacy in gambling is generally respected but using that privacy to gamble during working hours isn’t right, because being an employee, we’re paid to focus on work-related tasks, not personal activities like gambling.

Honestly, even if a company doesn’t have explicit rules against gambling at work, it should still be treated as an unwritten rule. Being pro, we inherently know what’s ethical and what crosses the line. It’s about understanding the moral responsibility to use work hours for their intended purpose, not for personal indulgence.

Pretty sure that this would really be that the main on why these companies or institutions would really be that trying out to get rid out of those addicted employees. Yes, they might not be doing something bad for thet company now or had done something wrong into their job but if these things will turned out to be that severe then this is where things do start out to get messy. They do already trying out to cut it off early via making up these kind of decisions. Yes, this might that sound injustice or not fair at all since not all people are playing gambling considered to be addict or cant be able to control themselves. There would really be still having those good handling when it comes into the activity that they are really that dealing into. Well, there's nothing we can do about it, if they will really be having this kind of approach on things and making up such decisions.

If I was a boss, my duty will be to provide him with work non-stop, and pay accordingly. If employee has done all his work, works 9 to 5 and there is still time till 5, but at the moment has nothing to do (or he waits for others to give him work), I would not mind if he would gamble at work. And comparing toilet and drinking water with gambling isnt lame (As an example, I can go to a toilet and gamble 5-10 minutes there). This all means being at work during working hours and not working, same as reading new, scrolling social media. If it does not interfere work result, why should it be not allowed? Most important, employees get paid hourly, or had a contract. Employer does not stand behind them with stopwatch and pay only when employee is really working.

People are different. One and the same job at bank different employees can do differently. One can do it in 30 minutes, other will struggle for 2 hours. But at the end they will get paid equally. This is not a race, where first to finish gets paid more. If job is 9 to 5, and employee has done all his work, the rest of his working time (in case new work appears) I would let him do whatever he wants that is morally acceptable and dont violate any rules.

Look, right now I am at work in the office. We dont have open-space kind of office, and I am alone in my cabinet. I am waiting a reply from foreign colleagues to my email, as well as waiting excel table with data from other colleague that is at my office, who went on a lunch while that table is generating. I have spent last 20 minutes doing nothing but surfing on the forum. Similarly I could have accessed online casino and play some simple games. It might turn, that till the rest of my working day, I wont get that table. My colleagues might not even ask me for any help, or there would be no tasks to do, especially since it is Friday and few hours are left till the end. I cant leave work now. So its preatty much boring atm.

Let's face it, what the judge did was a miscarriage of justice. If that guy was sacked based on the subject matter, it would have been a different thing but he was emphatically sacked for crypto involvement despite not being illegal in his country, these are two different things and this guy was not involved in suspicious acts, neither did he err in his responsibilities as an employee, so we should not drag it far.

Also, desperation is a different context that never showed in the suit. Gambling or not, employees are desperate on a daily basis, it is now left to how the establishment tightens its security not to allow unsuspected/unscrupulous employees to take advantage of it.

It's really hard to know without having all the facts, which I'm sure the judge had...

Also, yes, people do get frustrated, and desperate in many situations, but I guess you can know that it will potentially happen if you know that someone is a gambling addict.

I think getting fired for something like this might actually be OK...

It is important to strike a balance between responsibility and empathy in situations like this, in the one hand, if the behaviour of an employee with a gambling addiction is affecting work performance or the work environment, of course strict measures such as dismissal may be necessary to maintain professionalism, stability and productivity at work, but, on the other hand, it is also very important that the company provides support and assistance to the employee struggling with addiction, but that it if he really wants to quit gambling and not to cover up his mistakes.

Your post made me think that that bank did not care much about that person and personnel in general. Few fails at work, caught gambling - got fired. In someway I think it might be more human to try to help that employee with his gambling. I dont think that bank fired him immediately when they saw him gambling for first time. I think there were talks, warnings before firing that person. If they see a person has problem, it would be best to help him. Instead, now he still had this gambling problem, and now he is jobless in addition. Bank made his situation from bad to worse.

Naturally, when an employer finds out that an employee is a gambler or at least just a lover of gambling, this immediately becomes something akin to a black mark in the employee's work biography. This is especially true if the employer simply did not know about this employee's hobby until some point and suddenly accidentally or through a denunciation from other employees found out about it. The attitude of course ml to instantly change most negatively, this in turn entails increased control over the employee by his superiors. But the results of the control may just show that the employee has insufficient or reduced labor productivity. And this, of course, is a very compelling argument for the superiors to fire such an employee.

If the guy didn't used customers' money then there was no need to fire him because that is what pleases him to do. That is his own choice. If he was doing his job well then there was no need fire him that was doing his work diligently. From my own understanding of the whole thing, the sacking of the Banker is beyond the gambling habit. Probably he has been borrowing from the.bank and using it to gamble and he has been reported and warned but gave deaf hear but when it was obvious and he was fired.

unfortunately a company could very well much argue that as long as he is not their employee it is none of their business how he is doing mentally which is why it would just be easier to let go an employee having a hard time dealing with things such as addiction

it also doesn’t help that there is a stigma against gamblers, addict or not, they can always claim that he isn’t an addict and he just really likes gambling which is his conscious choice to keep doing

I suppose that people have wrong vision what bank is and how it works. I believe that people imagine it as a building with number of rooms, and a room under thick door where cash is stored. Otherwise what employee can be stealing then? In reality, everything is digitalized. Banks work with cash is very limited, and it is really hard to steal something without being noticed. If someone think that it is easy to steal from bank account or customers account, then you have never worked with banking program, never seen its UI. Everything is monitored, every little extra move is instantly alarmed and security get a warning and you get your working session blocked. If someone think that an employee can use any bank PC to enter banking program, and to make a transaction to any other account, then I suggest you to stop watching silly movies. Banking program for employees to make transactions is not like your regular private user accounts interface, where you pay bill and send money to others. And if someone think that employee can go to his bank colleagues, and they will open him a credit without bank noticing it, that is also quite impossible to happen.

If one gets fired as a result of gambling while at work, then its depicts that such a user is also an addicted type or the one that does not gamble responsibly, we must know when to gamble and when not to do so, gambling is not what we are are to do and make us lose anything that is valuable to us, the more the need to emphasis on how to gamble responsibly and never to allow it affect other things we do.

I don’t think the bank should be accountable with what the gambler currently experienced now. The fact that the employee is no longer productive in his own job, regardless of its reason, then the employer have all the right to warn or worse fire the employee.

But of course, this doesn’t happen in an instant for sure. Most probably prior investigations or interviews from other employees have been made first. Until proven that the employee is no longer effective in his position, then the bank should call out his attention or fire from his job.

Moreover, I am almost sure that no player will admit that he has an addiction, I mean that he will not admit it even to himself. I do not want to judge him now, it is his choice in any case, and I suspect that he did not play for the money, because in the bank, employees often receive a very good salary, which should be enough for all expenses and desires. And I understand his fear of losing this job, because in Japan, a career can be built in one place for many years, this is due to their culture.

That's the same thing I thought of, I've come across addicted gambler that never admit their addiction and would even try to make trouble when anyone tries to advice him concerning his addiction, I feel it's a general thing with addicted gamblers cause most of them see no harm in what they're doing and only got one goal which is to continue satisfying their urge for gambling.

 I don't feel the reason for him being sacked is related to Cryptocurrency but fear of addiction, his jobs involves handling people's money and the bank must have been worried about him gambling with people's money due to addiction, I guess that's same thing the court thought about before ruling the case against him.

You are really that right on this one on which making up some unauthorized transactions with those banking system or UI then its not something that will really be able to bypass on, considering that in every day there would really be audits about ups and downs and everything will really be traced up if there's some funds been missing then it will definitely be seen up accordingly. The only way that i do see that a bank employee will really be able to possibly steal up money is via through making use of their customers funds without their consent or awareness. Sounds impossible? No its not. I have a friend who had been working on a bank and their colleague do able to do such thing and i dont know on how its been set up on he had been successfully be able to make use of their users money.

We do know that bank system is really that having that very strict and systematized on which every possible off transactions will really be able to make out such trace without any hiccups.If they do have that particular employee who do have that some addiction towards gambling then as bank then you will be taking up some possible precautions if things gets worst. On this one then they do become that too conclusive on things on which they do immediately fire him up without having any explanation i guess. If there are some other violations then it will be that understandable.

Yeah, it can be seen as a negative impact to some employers.

The thing is that though, in some employments it might be a bit irrelevant.

I think only in the cases where the employee has access to cash or other valuables would be needed to have no history of problem gambling .

From my working in bank experience, and experience of people I know, bank dont take random, first to apply, inexperienced or students that have practice on a position that makes transactions. An employee must work for several years before he will get access to operating with money. During those several years, banks security officers or other employees should have noticed something strange in guys behavior, addiction to something, that is something wrong with him. Even during interview or when guy apply for position that is connected with transactions, security officers do various check-ups. What I am trying to say that a guy does not turn (if he really did) into gambling addicted with elements of trying to do something illegal immediately. Its 100% banks security department fault if they let such guy work in bank and be close to clients funds. They are the origin of a problem, not a guy who is interested in gambling.

Dont know why, but I feel that many here already have a stereotype that "gambling = bad", and whenever they see something that has a connection with gambling, or gambling context, that is already bad and blame the gambler. For example if two guys commit a crime, then the one who gambles should be punished, and second guy should be released.

I think that is really unfair. The fact that the employee never gambled during work
hours and that his gambling didn't affect his work performance should have been
the main thing to focus on.

It was clearly based on their dislike on crypto. I dont think they would have a problem
if the employee was gambling with FIAT because gambling didnt seem to be the issue
it was the Crypto factor.

In such cases, especially when accessing money specifically, it is obvious that the message and information about the employee's passion for gambling causes concern for the employer. But not only in this case. Usually, it is important for the employer that the employee is as busy as possible with his main job and thinks as little as possible about his other affairs during working hours. But thoughts about gambling are precisely those thoughts that greatly affect the employee.
As a result, his productivity may decrease.
And this is also another consequence of the fact that the employer learns about the employee's passion for gambling. The attitude towards such an employee may immediately change in a negative direction.

What kind of security are we talking about? What could this employee have done to make the management so angry at him? Most likely, this person crossed someone before all this. Just banal competition for a position. This happened to me. At my previous place of work, they simply wanted to force me out of my position and spread all sorts of rumors about me. Yes, it worked in the end, since the information reached the boss. Of course, this was all a banal lie, but who can you prove it to? This is how the modern world works. I had to deal with such a lousy team, where rottenness and cynicism reign.

We can say like that but the casino can asks their members to work over work hours. If the employee doesn't want to do that, they can say that they want to enjoy the holiday and not work in a holiday. The company must understand this and gives holiday to their employee because they works to the company and gets paid so the company don't needs forcing their employee. If their employee can not accept that and demo because of the policy, the company can get a trouble from their employee.

So exactly was the bank supposed to do according to you? They are are financial institution, not a facility for recovering gambling addicts nor a mental institution. It is sad, but that is how most societies around the world work.
If I was found gambling at a job here in my country, when money which is preperty of the company, they would have no compassion for me whatsoever and they would fire me immediately, that is the natural reaction for any company which in their business to make money, not to lose it due to the bad habits and problems of their personnel.
After getting fired, that person is supposed to take those consequences of their actions as a wake up call, in order for them to change their way of living and control their problem gambling,.it is on their own hands and not in the control of the bank, which only sees for the well-being of the business and their investments.

According to me, bank or any other employer must respect his employees. Employee has a problem - try to help or at least find out what could be done to help. I dont know what should exactly bank do. Maybe send this guy to visit a psychologist first. Or it leads to: addicted employee - fire immediately, employee got sick - fire him, employee urgently needs to pick up a child from school or child got into accident - fire employee, employee spend 1:01h instead of 1h lunch - fire.

I have no doubt that employee should get fired if had used company's money for gambling. But 1) it wasnt mentioned that he was doing that, he could have been gambling with own money 2) it aint easy to steal from bank or use its funds on own purposes.

It seems that no many have bothered reading article in first post, but instantly start to accuse fired employee. So I will copy/paste some info:

“I only played one kind of PC game, and I did so after work hours. Furthermore, I did not convert the game’s cryptoassets into fiat."
"The ex-staffer also claimed that they had “never gained unfair profits or provided preferential treatment” through their “private financial transactions with [the bank’s] loan clients.” (https://cryptonews.com/news/s-korean-court-rules-in-favor-of-bank-who-fired-staffer-for-playing-crypto-games/)

The whole story is not about gambling. Gambling should not be the reason to fire him.

"The company’s internal audit found that the employee had also “engaged in inappropriate private money lending” with the bank’s loan clients. (https://cryptonews.com/news/s-korean-court-rules-in-favor-of-bank-who-fired-staffer-for-playing-crypto-games/)". But if was correct to fire him because he wasnt doing his job correctly, but used his bank position for dirty deeds.

What shocks me is:

The court also ruled that “even if” bank employees “gamble outside of work hours” and their activities “do not directly interfere with work,” it was “undignified” for bank employees to play crypto gambling games. (https://cryptonews.com/news/s-korean-court-rules-in-favor-of-bank-who-fired-staffer-for-playing-crypto-games/) So you play something like Axie Infinite at home and get fired because of that...

The word is integrity: "the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles". As an employee, you are supposed to work and not get entertained while working. I won't give him the name of an addict but I will surely say that the action taken by the bank was correct. It is a financial institution and imagine if this guy had used some of the account holder's money for gambling. The bank secured the account holder's trust by firing him and at the same time informing their customer through a news outlet. This is how they maintain their trust and lure new customers to open accounts with them.

The bank simply did what was profitable for it and showed it to its clients, because without clients there would be no bank, or they would go to competitors. In general, I would not want, as a client of this bank, for example, for my money to be lost, but at the same time, we will never know if this employee could do such a thing. I don’t know about them, but in some countries I often hear about how some employee, having access to the money of a company or other institution, lost it in a casino. He probably thought that it was a great idea to make x2 overnight, and then put it back where he got it from, but it didn’t work out. Imagine that there are those who did it, but we simply don’t know about them and will never know.

Alright, sometimes we might say a person's decision is right or wrong even without knowing the whole story, just like what OP is sharing. Some might say it was the right call, while others firmly disagree. If we were on the employee's side, we would take responsibility for our workers; we know how to appreciate them and when it's time to let someone go. It's not that easy to decide to fire someone over a simple issue but what I really think that happened could be more complicated than it seems, leading to firing him. Well, the court has made its decision, which means this is the final. So, even though it hurts, we must accept it.

The issue could've been getting around for some time period, and the employee might be noted for his activities. As stated, the firing isn't an immediate one. It looks like they've taken the necessary time and fired him at the right time. At some particular time of the day he might be gambling regularly. This seems to be the reason behind the firing. The authority could've gotten solid evidence and gone further if the employee raised a complaint. Anyhow, the firing of the employee is not because he used cryptocurrency for gambling. He gambled during the working hours, which is the right one.

We dont really know on whats the story behind it because we do know that they do make out immediate decision about firing up such employee but actually theres really that possibility at the moment that theyve known that a certain person is really that engaged with gambling activity. There will really be having those criticisms into this regard on which we know that trying out to get involved on what a certain person is doing or the activities that they are dealing with is really that against on someones privacy. We do know that when it comes into this aspect that we do have all the rights on what we do into our funds. If they do find out some potential problems in regarding about misuse or stolen up some funds into the bank then this is the right time that they should be firing him but if theres still none or having no problems then i dont see the reason on why they would be doing so.

They are really just that too assuming that there might be some possibility that things get worst specially if addiction will really be that becoming more worst as the time that they will really be that already touching up banks funds and thats why they do make out some action basing up on what they do have observed. Assuming that things might get worst then they do already made out such act on which we can say that its a bit harsh on such decision been made of.

Yeah, the people that make those decisions are usually well rounded human beings and take a lot of things into consideration to make their decisions.

We might not know all the specific details of the case, so we can only speculate about what happened.

Also the headlines usually try to be the most eye catching as possible so maybe there is some nuance that we are not getting.

That's exactly it. It can be expressed in the words "the devil is in the details".
In principle, we can only talk in general terms about the motives of a person's behavior, about his passion for gambling, about his diligence at work, and so on. And on the other hand, we can also talk about the motives of an employer who evaluates an employee and makes decisions about his dismissal or, conversely, about a bonus and promotion of some employee. However, in this already quite large topic, you all give a lot of arguments to motivate such actions.
And at the same time, we should not forget that much is fair, but dismissal against one's own will and deprivation of an employee's source of income is always the strongest stress for a person. And his subsequent actions are often partly due to this and this stress.

Even though it is gambling part of the forum, focus on the following, that fired employee was fired because of his actions that were made not during his work or working hours. That is what make situation ridiculous. I cant understand relationship between employer and that employee, when employee was punished for something that is not job related.

Yes, we cannot decide whether it is the right or wrong decision because we also have to look at the whole thing that happened. It could be that in the company there is an unwritten rule that employees are not allowed to do something that if it is done, the consequence is dismissal. Well, we all also only accept the results, so you are right we can only speculate. But all decisions have been taken and it has happened. This can be a lesson for those of us who work in a company to always be careful and avoid activities in the environment that feel quite foreign or something that is not allowed.

We can only obey the rules if we want to still work in that company. We can't risk our job by doing something that is prohibited by the company. Besides that written rules, we should care about the unwritten rules that may be not allowing us to do something. It is better we work carefully so nothing bad will happen to us and we don't get any problems. But if we do something by coincidence, maybe the company can forgive us but they will give a warning not to do the same thing in the future. So if we can be careful while we work, we can be a good employee and the company may reward us with something good.

Have you read the article? That fired person wasnt gambling at work or during work, but the reason to fire him was gambling. I have never heard that any company has "any form of gambling is forbidden everywhere" kind of rule. For example, if gambling at home is not acceptable by company, then this is a total nonsense.

I think it would be appropriate to warn your employees when hiring them that they should not play in the workplace because in the worst case scenario it could lead to dismissal. If the employer did not warn about this in advance, then I think this is not the best option for dismissal, because an employee can be fired under any other pretext and even if there is no reason, a higher-up can deliberately make it up because of personal hostility, for example. In general, I think that the first point in this case should have been a warning, not dismissal, this seems too harsh. I wonder if they have trade unions that could prove that this did not affect the employee's work and the entire bank as a whole.

It greatly depends on what company you are working, and they policies when comes to mental health and management of their employees. There are companies which have their own psychologist and department dedicated for employees to seek mental well-being, all sponsored by the company itself. On the other hand, there are companies which work at the edge of the law and offer their workers the bare minimum for the company not to break laws of the country and get fired, the latter case is specially prevalent in countries which are not developed and where man-of-war is not as valuable as in other places, where people can be replaced easily with no consequences.
Here in my country I have seen people getting fired for the most absurd things, because the market is saturated and the economy is bad, so businesses can mistreat people working for them.
Wherever that bank was from, it is clear there was no within the scope of law to provide psychological attention to their employees, otherwise she would have not been fired immediately in the manner she was.

It is just a manner of fact that companies reserve their right to fire people to work for them with little to no excuse, and that is something we must live with, at least until there are changes of laws.

I agree with you, this is not the case we are so privy to the right documents, so the complete facts are hidden to entirely judge anyone.

Don't judge people on presumption. When a crime has never been committed, you don't pass a judgement believing "he can do it." Fine, anyone can be desperate or frustrated, but you will be shocked about how many gamblers have good jobs and even have them in sensitive places. Or should I say with the high percentage of gamblers in the world, should all of them be sacked simply because they gamble? C'mon, they are not criminals.

Yup, that's the life of being employed. We can be removed anytime the management wishes to. With politics or not, with something good or bad that an employee did, always think that they have the rights to do whatever they want to retain or remove an employee. But on this case, they all have the right to impose that rule because that's not right at all for an employee to do something inside working hours that's not in line with company's business.

Yeah, that's basically it.

The company pays for your time so they basically own you for that period. You get their money, they get you.

You are only worth anything to the company because without you they couldn't sell whatever they are selling.

The moment they can automate you, they will kick you out, immediately.

I guess then its best to admit that both are guilty or acted incorrectly in that situation. Employee that gambled, even though it is prohibited in South Korea. Bank that interpret situation only from one side, from the side of power. I think not many have noticed how important this case is. When usually a person is fired, he either admits it and let it go, or get negotiations with former employer, hear fully detailed explanation, yet still search for another job. In current case, whole situation ended with a case in court.

Yes, that's what will happen whenever the company is no longer in need our service. They can automate things and then kick us with some separation pay. But while we are on their premises and we're hired to do our job and task, they can do whatever they want to do because of it and so they respect and pay your time, and so do it as well in return.

You got a good point, if that's  not a part of your contract then dismissal should not be the first option, there's should be a warning first before dismissing an employee as you mentioned it can easily be abused by any higher authority in that company since they can quickly decide to punished you with dismissal if they wish using that kind of reasoning, though it's tough decision to make since employers or any head of the company have that authorization if that's part of the contract then there's nothing to talk they can simply implement the dismissal.

But check the clause of the contract you sign, maybe there is something written there about terminating the contract and the employee at any time the company sees some valid reasons in doing so.

While there is a certain abuse to it but the employee doesn't have any power to alter the decision once it is final based on the basis that the company has seen to dismiss the employee by doing such acts.

One of the risks when you are really just that depending into a single source of income or having that day job is that you can possibly be kicked out or laid off because of those common reasons. As much as possible you will really be needing to have that multiple source as much as you could even if its hard but at least you are doing your best on trying to make your living way more better. Just be sure that you will really be obeying companies rules and policies and as much as possible on trying out to avoid on things on which you do seem that it will really be able to affect your work and possible that being removed due to some reasons.

I don’t know what he was thinking but, it’s a don’t when you work in this type of organization. Most part of our world still view gambling for a vice. As a banker, getting involved in these activities presents you in an irresponsible light and worst still, your banking in a currency that the very bank which pays you is against. It doesn’t show patronage, really. Eventually, it’s always going to come to that, a sack which I think is grossly unfair so long as, the banker has been tending to his duties and ensuring to debit and credit in the accounts as his duty demands, that’s okay.

It also depends on the ability the employee has to manage money of the bank and whether they could misuse deposits of clients to gamble with them. Let us see the case for example of someone who works on a bank and yet, does not directly manages money, during that person's break time they could be gambling and there should be no problem about it, because there is no plausible risk for a person to make the company to suffer a substantial loss of money with their gambling sessions.
This that case the courts would have sided with the person getting fired and demanded the bank to economically compensate the victim.
Anyways, I am pretty much sure within the hiring contract of banks and any other big companies there are hidden paragraphs about gambling and other unacceptable activities which are not supposed to be partaken in during one's shift. One is very likely to ever win against a company/bank that has an army of good lawyers backing it up.

This is another brilliant angle you took it from, it could have an undertone that we do not know about. Employees have enemies and at times those top people want them gone, and it could be for a light offence that was aggravated or for disloyalty. This could be an act they also committing or are privy to know that other employees commit but will turn a blind eye. I still feel so awful about this case to be candid, and like you, I was a victim of setup in one of the places I worked, but I won. People could be wicked.

well that is the game changer there , since he played using crypto as a safer chance to not being caught(at least faster lol)
because if this is about physical funds he might have a second thought of not trying such a way . but what can we do now when he already  acted stupid and now will be forever a burden to his life .

You won't be kicked unless you do something crazy inside your duty and the company's premises. But that's true that this is one of the risks of having one job, we saw this when the pandemic happened and no one can skip that. And that's why if it's a life lesson, get as much source of income as you can and while you can.

Actually if we read the link we can see that in the end the news about his crypto was overblown even though the charges were centered on gambling but in the link we can also see that this person was involved in an inappropriate lending case so it was actually quite natural when he was fired from his job.


It was indeed a mistake in the end and it cannot be defended but on the other hand I also don't really like some media that sometimes corner crypto against something that when the main reason is gambling or fraud but because there is crypto in it so this is associated with crypto insecurity when clearly this is just a slant of opinion so that crypto is considered negative.

A company never fires someone when it needs them to manage his business, but if he is involved in any work or does any work that is likely to lead to the company's loss or for some reason the organization fears any loss from that person, then he will definitely not be kept there. And yes most private job there is no guarantee, so one should be careful in the jobs there and definitely should not do anything outside the rules.

I will not keep any employee in my personal organization who can harm me. Therefore, if I can predict that in advance, then I will definitely fire that employee as soon as possible if that is so harmful. Because I will not want to keep someone like that with spending money.

Employees are really that easily to be replaced and we do know all of that on which it is really that easy to find someone who do replace if ever there's a vacant but there's indeed a point that if you are a worker whose really that having that high position and having skills then it will be that not ideal for the company on firing you up not unless if there are some serious misconduct or disobedience or other correlated things happen then it might pushed through but if the issues been raised were really that minimal or not something major then they might really be just that giving you some warning and wont be making out some direct decision on firing you up. This will really be that on case to case basis into this aspect.

A liability should be removed as soon as possible. That's the policy of most companies if they see an employee that's serving them as a liability. And with that, that makes them decide to put it simply that way and with employees that does something else during work hours, it losses them money even if there's no customer or sales involved to them.

In my own opinion,I think if crypto wasn't involved,the employee wouldn't have lost his job.I think the major reason why he was fired was the fact that he made it known to his colleagues that his into crypto gambling games which happens to be illegal,most of our colleagues are just waiting for the slightest mistake to bring about our downfall,so I believe he must have told his colleagues otherwise nobody would have known about his crypto game lifestyle.And the worst part of it all is his job doesn't work hand in hand with crypto transactions.

When I was reading the news I came across the phrase " Habitual gambler", meaning playing crypto games was part of his habit regardless his work hours,but the ex-employee disagreed that he isn't a habitual gambler and his appeal was rejected.If that should be the case,how was he then caught,no one knows or maybe it could be the first reason I gave.To me this is total bullshit.

This reminds me of another valuable point in opsec, that basically it is much better to not say what you have.

It brings you no positive, and if the value of Bitcoin goes through the roof, then there could be bad consequences.

Most people buy and sell with 10% of difference in price or so. Most don't hodl. They don't understand Bitcoin.

In terms of bad consequences, it seems to me that this can really happen. There is more and more talk about the code being cracked using the latest quantum computers. This is probably a serious danger for Bitcoin as a whole, given the extremely negative attitude towards cryptocurrencies from traditional financial systems. So such a scenario clearly has a non-zero probability.

As for limited information to competing employees at work, it is obvious that the less they know about the employee, the better protected he is from all sorts of mean actions on the part of bosses or competing employees. Therefore, of course, you need to think carefully about what you should tell your work colleagues about your personal life, and what you definitely shouldn’t. By the way, in my opinion, you shouldn’t tell information about your passion for cryptocurrency under any circumstances, as well as about your financial situation and ownership of real estate, investments or stock packages.

True that. It appears that gambling during his spare time would hardly make him fired. It's amazing how fast people are to blame gambling in everything bad that happens to them! Don't be engaged in inappropriate private money lending, mate, and gamble during your spare time how much you want, and you won't be fired for that(if your boos ain't a total loony, of course).

Yeah, in most jobs whatever you do in your spare time is fair game.

I don't think anyone would ever get fired for gambling in their free time, even at their job.

Although some companies would be against gambling in the job, mainly to reduce the chances of something like this happening.

I came to the conclusion that you need to have multiple sources of income exactly when the COVID pandemic happened. I was fired from my job because the company went bankrupt. It was so hard for me at that time. There was practically no money. I had to borrow from friends and acquaintances, but not everyone gave me money, since it was difficult for them themselves. And what about my government? It simply abandoned me to my fate and did not allocate a single cent to somehow hold out in difficult times. Since then, I have many questions, but this topic is not about that.

Having two, or better yet, several sources of income is the best insurance against a sudden scandal at your main job with subsequent dismissal. And by the way, such a reserve source of income may well be related to cryptocurrencies, for example, trading or even just holding a portfolio of promising coins. Only of course, the management at your main job should not know anything about this at all. Then, in my opinion, this is quite a good insurance against dismissal. It will at least allow you to hold out for several months while looking for a new main job.

So much attention to one guy who got fire. Thousands if not millions got fired everyday, but little do care about it. So what do we have today - a guy who has been doing something that is forbidden in his country. A fair reason to show his at the door at work. Does not matter if he did it at home, at work, during work or after work. Gambling is prohibited there. Previously I had different idea about this case, but now, I find it right to fire him. Better do it before it is too late. Even if he wasnt an addicted gambler, nobody know if or when he turns into such. But I am more focus on doing something that isnt allowed. If he allowed himself to do that, wo know what he will allow himself to do next time.

Any of us can lose our job, but we shouldn't blame the employer, because the employment contract (if there is one) has a clause that you can be fired at any time. In this case, the employee violated the rules that contradict the employer's principles, so we shouldn't blame anyone but ourselves.
And to protect yourself from such a situation, when after being fired you are left without money, you need to have some savings, at least small ones, so that they will be enough for a few months of life until you can find another job.

Yes, this incident is given a lot of attention here, but I think that if we could really help this guy, then it would be a good experience for the judicial practice in the future. After all, any precedent, when someone's rights were violated, but they were defended, can save guys who find themselves in similar cases in the future.
Because judges do not like to be the first to decide the outcome of a controversial court case. Judges want to look into the past and, based on past experience, make a verdict. Also, all gamblers will more clearly understand how to treat the practice of games in the workplace.

I don’t want to say he deserved that decision, but I do think it is important to take the time to listen to explanations before making a decision. Of course, it is painful to think that crypto gambling has become a reason for someone to lose their job. But honestly, I feel like there is more to the story that it looks like there is a deeper reason behind what happened.

Respect is important in the workplace, and maybe that is what was missing, leading to this outcome. Whether it is a personal issue or just about gambling involvement, we should handle situations like this peacefully and accept whatever the final decision is rather than arguing.

Oh the irony.  I would love to hear other peoples takes on this outside of the United States but my question is this.. Are the majority of banks corrupt as all hell in your country ?

For instance Bank of America, worlds largest bank...take a look at this - https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/bank-of-america ( that's nearly 90 BILLION IN FINANCIAL FRAUD VIOLATIONS AGAINST IT'S CUSTOMERS SINCE 20000

Or how about JP Morgan Chase Bank (worlds second largest bank) - https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/jpmorgan-chase  (HERE JP HAS AN HONEST 40 BILLION IN FRUAD VIOLATIONS). 

What I tell my clients here is to bank for checking at credit unions and small time banks, and for online savings, online banks such as Ally or Capital One.

BOA, Chase, and Well Fargo savings account rate is all at .01%... with inflation around 3, anyone in those accounts is losing 3%.  While they fractional reserve bank and make BILLIONS and give nothing back. 

Great way to find good online savings account and other top rates - www.bankrate.com

Yeah, that's something that I just can't understand is happening all the time.

I mean, all these measures the banks are supposed to go through, all those checks, etc, for your safety, and then they suddenly are financing horrible stuff all around the world, get caught, and ... nothing happens?

It's quite mind blowing when you read these cases over and over.

Here's just one example: https://www.icij.org/investigations/fincen-files/hsbc-moved-vast-sums-of-dirty-money-after-paying-record-laundering-fine/

         -     Frankly speaking, crypto gambling has nothing to do with whether the person was fired from their job, because in reality, it was also the employee's negligence because he did not properly manage his passion for playing online casinos while he was at work.

Then of course the bank company reported against their employee, so the advantage is really on the company's side not on the employee.
Hopefully that was just a lesson to the ex-employee.

The lesson here is that no employee who has started a new job should ever tell any of his colleagues at the new place of work that he has any cryptocurrency and that he is into gambling. And especially not the employer. And even if at the new job his new colleagues start discussing issues of the crypto industry and gambling, then simply do not participate in this conversation or avoid direct questions on this topic.

Here is the employee about whom this whole topic is, if he had observed such information secrecy and safety, then no one would have fired him.

And then such guy gets fired after probationary, because he does not fit the team. I would instead talk with colleagues about crypto and gambling, if they talk about that, but give general information, nothing that can show that I am good at them. Being silent and secretive also does not work well. As an employee, it is recommended to follow what you post or interact with in social media. A person might be a good and hardworking guy, fits well in team, but posts that he is radically against or support something, and employer can take that information as a reason to fire him.

If crypto and gambling are topics that people can comfortably discuss with each other then there is no reason why we shouldn't participate, especially when we are new employees needing to integrate. But if cryptocurrency and gambling are taboo topics in the company, then even if former colleagues talk about it, we should not engage in that conversation.

As a new employee, we should focus more on work instead of spending time gossiping, especially during working hours. There are always stories of old employees bullying new employees at work, so try to get along with everyone but also be cautious because we don't know their true intentions and what they will do to us. Just because they smile and talk to us doesn't mean they consider us colleagues and won't try to harm us.

yes in my opinion it is absolutely right it is not a good business card for those who decide to entrust their savings to the bank in question and then see them managed by someone who plays games of chance for me it is right that a measure is taken or at least regulate it

Well, of course, this is an option to participate in conversations about cryptocurrency and pretend that you are an absolute sucker in these matters. But then, firstly, you are lying, and secondly, you can screw up and be suspected of insincerity. And this is also a negative scenario for working in a team.

As for the control of the employee's social networks by the employer, I think that this is now almost always done, apparently secretly. And in life, when dismissing an employee, the employer does not necessarily state the real reason for dismissal. The reason may be completely different from what the employer says. And this is all connected either with the unacceptable productivity of this employee, or with other factors obtained from the analysis of information about the employee and the potential risks of the employer if he does not dismiss this employee. I think this is almost always done by the employer quite reasonably and substantiatedly and on the basis of factual verified data.

The thing is that there should be some mechanism that doesn't allow access to client's funds.

We already have something like that, it is Bitcoin.

No one can access your Bitcoins if they don't have your keys. That's the best way to keep your savings.

The moment you send your money to a company, they are the custodians of it, and they might even lose it.

Indeed, in terms of working hours better to do whatever you need to do and remember that you are being paid to fill your job, there's no other things that you should do but focus with your work especially if you are a newbie, it's best practice to keep yourself away from any disruptions, when you are doing something else aside from your obligation then you are entitle to answer it from your superior.

Gambling activities if being execute while you are still at work might affect your obligation, not just with time but more on your focus so there's cosequences that the superior needs to consider.

Your statement only shows you do not know your rights, perhaps you live in a developing or underdeveloped country where rights are nothing to people and companies, and even the government violate the same. This has caused many to believe they are slaves with no single rights, and that can only explain why you think that an employer can fire you anyhow without having a good reason for doing so. Those employers who had good reason to sack employees in some sane countries were still forced to take back some of them or/and pay a huge compensation for such an ignoble act. I wonder what will happen to an unruly employer with no valid reason.

Does not make sense if the banker was fired when he was gambling with his own personal funds. But if he was gambling with the bank's money, then yes it was well deserved.

There was one old and giant British bank (Bearings) that survived for hundreds of years but went down because some employee was gambling its funds on the stock market. Eventually, he went to jail.

Sometimes bank operators are like that, sometimes they can't have Control over how much power they have , I know someone in a Bank who does is if the person owes money on their credit card and has a large debt , he assumes it ,  Pays it but the deal is that he has to lose a large loan, he gives him a good part of it and the person is left with money , but with debt at the same time, but that's an intelligent way of doing things, when the power that one has is Mismanaged , these things happen.

Banks have such mechanism, employee can see accounts and funds there, but that search will be registered in system and security officers might ask what for they have searched that. And only selected users have rights in bank system to make transactions. In fact a lot of processes are automated and employees only have rights to edit transactions. In fact, that employee was not working in department who makes transactions, and he was playing gambling game not at work. His dismissal was not even related with his work and duties in bank.

It depends on the country and as far as I know, Korea is not a gambling friendly country, they do not allow gambling in the country. So it is no surprise that Korean companies also include it in their corporate regulations, especially for finance-related companies such as banks.

Regardless of whether this employee gambled with personal or bank money, but he may have violated the company's taboo on gambling. So it is understandable why he was suddenly fired by his superiors without a chance to explain.
If this happened in my country, the result would be the same because gambling is strictly prohibited in every company in my country. This is considered the second taboo after stealing company property .

But nothing's happened. The thing is that that Bank employee wasn't fired for playing crypto games.

People so much want to tie something negative to crypto and to gambling that they invent unexisting stories and publish them all the time to draw attention of the general public. I think on this forum we must whitewash both crypto and crypto gambling from that sling mud put on them by dishonest journalists.

There's nothing wrong with doing this during your spare time, this bank employee showed a major sign of incompetence and that is what got him fired. We have all been to the bank and we know time consuming and demanding attending to clients can be, the organization needs all workers to work effectively to ensure that no mistake is made. Gambling during such a critical time shows indiscipline. Lastly, as an employee in a financial institution this isn't something that you should do publicly, your employers can't trust you with other people's money if you are a gambler, learn to keep it private.

It is indeed a fatal mistake when you try to tell things outside of work. Especially being a bank employee who generally banks really don't like crypto. From the start talking about gambling in the wrong place is very risky and gets a negative response. As a bank employee, you are required to show an idealistic attitude towards paper money, maybe   ::)

It is better to keep your own confidentiality to yourself if you do not want to cause harm, this can be a real lesson, where words can reflect who we are and not sharing information that should not be spread is the best choice

However, to do this, you must first have the appropriate character.
And not such that all colleagues would consider their colleague a secretive and silent person, from whom it is generally impossible to find out a single word about his life or his views. It is quite difficult for such secretive people to work in a team. And such people still cause some rejection in the team. But you can’t be a chatterbox either, this is also not good enough for a team of colleagues to accept such a person as smart enough and to communicate comfortably with him. There is still some average range of personality characteristics in terms of what information about themselves a person can afford to share with their colleagues.
Obviously, information about a passion for cryptocurrencies or gambling clearly refers to almost forbidden information that clearly should not be shared with colleagues at work. Without a doubt, a reasonable person should not do this.

You are absolutely right that any worker or specialist should be focused on their work, and not distracted by gambling or something similar. Because such activities are very distracting from constant work and occupy all thoughts. And such an employee will not be productive and attentive. And it is scary to think what mistakes this secret gambler can make, especially working with huge amounts of other people's money.
Perhaps this is very dangerous, and of course, it is unlikely that any employer will be happy that his hired worker is so frivolous about the entrusted duties.

Actually its not bad to gamble, just make yourself only being responsible into the actions that you are taking and its none others business if you do gamble out with your own money. It is really just that there are those other people who are really that too sensitive when it comes to gambling on which since  this person is really that having a work or job that is really that in connection with money then they will be simply be that trying out to give out some words and opinions into the things that you are dealing into. On the moment that theyve seen that you do gamble as a bank employee then they will be having some assumptions that sooner or later you might be that affecting your job.

Just on what i have said that its not bad to gamble as long you do find yourself that responsible with your finances. There are really those times that it do turn out to be inappropriate which it  cant be denied that other people who do sees out that you do gamble because of those addiction probabilities and which is why they do make out that kind of decisions on firing him for some obvious reasons but actually we dont know on whats behind these decisions.

Are you still surprised by such news? I am not. Do you think this is some isolated incident? It is not at all. This happens all the time and all over the world. Banks have gained so much power that they are starting to do crazy things that are hard to even imagine. Until radical measures are taken, nothing will change. The state needs to pay close attention to all this and take tough measures. I would give several illustrative examples that will serve as a lesson for others.

Yeah, I can't help but agree with that. Sometimes it seems to me that in many countries the population is not controlled by elected legislators and executive power, but rather by bankers and super-large business magnates, who together now represent power. Moreover, power that no one really elected and in this sense it can be considered that this is an unauthorized seizure of power by the banking community. This is of course now a colossal brake on the development of civilization, since such a state of society is not aimed at effective scientific and technological progress, but at speculative redistribution of wealth, including national wealth. And there is no sense in such senseless actions for humanity at all, rather, this leads to even greater dullness and degradation of humanity as a whole.

If the cryptocurrency is illegal in that country then it is natural that the bank will declare the use of cryptocurrency illegal. But an employee certainly has the right to participate in gambling but if gambling and crypto currency are illegal in that country then he must have committed an offense as a bank official. But if he had used physical money, the bank might not have charged him, since he had used virtual money, of course he had committed a criminal act, for which the court ruled in favor of the bank.

Nah the employee will still get a sanction in the first place it's a work environment there's no activity other than work-related and those playing gambling at work is for sure against the ethics, another thing is possible that guys already had a history to their work so the HR doesn't tolerate at all any kind of appeal, we know how does the gambling might affect a persons capability and we can give our possible insights but still its company discretion. Even though it's not a crypto involved possible still have a penalty well it seems a worst scenario experience by the employee because its an immediate termination. Lesson learned make it place your gambling habit.

Logically right, especially if the person involve already addicted his/her focused will be eaten by gambling activities it's no longer fit to his obligation as what inside the mind mostly about the gambling, there's role and obligation that's needed to be address and if you are occufied by other things inside your mind such focus is being used, resulting to unprodcutive day while you are being paid in full, it's a decision that needed to take place as it involves the cycle inside the business that you are working with.

This shit can not be accepted in some regions where their earr strict rules that are guiding every employees from getting fired by work Managers due to trivial matters. Gambling in the work space is not ethical at all but that do not deserve a sack. Every gamblers need to be very strict when they are in the workspace so they don't have to go gamble openly where people would know and report the scene.
The government need to put some laws in place to protect workers from getting retrenched anyhow.

So what we exactly we have learned from that story? To follow anonymous way of life, be silent about everything you do and suspicious to everything. Who knows what will be the reason to fire you next time. That is an absurd and will cause paranoia. One again, he was not fired for bad performance at work, for not doing his duties, nor anything connected about his work in bank. He was fired because he gambled and played crypto game. This means that company might fire employee because they have different point of view. Next time it will turn that my HR add flakes first in bowl, than pour milk, and fire me because I first add milk, wait for it to be room temperature and then add cornflakes.

Amen, that's the lesson, there is no other solution than that, when it comes to betting, cryptocurrencies, everything that has to do with these things, even if you have a very good job, you have to be anonymous, be very cautious and let no one find out about our movements, it's only healthier, because otherwise everything that can happen is bad, it's harmful, a person who plays should not do so within their workplace because in all of them there are many cameras and all our movements in our lives are recorded, so caution and a lot of privacy is what you should always have.

But that is not normal. Why would I be always cautious, nervous and be afraid to do something, because other might use it against me. Even at home I am isnt safe, because some might pay way to much attention to what I post in social media, what I like, what I am interesting in. Why? Because that info can be used against you.

Unfortunately, many countries have already passed laws that an employer cannot fire employees without good reason. However, our entire life and reality show that such laws are still not really enforced. And an employer can always find reasons for firing an employee, even if they are not significant, and fire the person. Sometimes you can even deliberately provoke an employee to commit an illegal or immoral act, for example, with such a topic as sexual harassment, which a person of the opposite sex provoked in advance. So you get a compelling argument for dismissal.
I do not exclude the case when an employee's passion for gambling can also be used as an argument for dismissing an undesirable employee.

Well, since I am in the world of cryptocurrencies, the first thing I learned is the importance of privacy and anonymity, and this is something so beautiful in real life because you do what you want without anyone noticing or suspecting, of course as long as it is not to harm anyone, but in crypto for me it is essential that privacy and anonymity always exist, in cryptocurrencies it is difficult because the currency that can protect us the most is Monero and when you see it is not in any exchange, but it is in other platforms that are generally in the deep web, so this has given it very bad Publicity.

According to social networks they are capable of screwing us over absolutely everything, and many problems are because of that, I am not one to post much on my social networks sometimes because it is a reason to earn bad energy from people, because nobody likes to see people happy, the less you post on your social networks the more protected you are, and in money and things that have to do with money it is like that and it should be applied all the time, people who Publish that they have money that do countless things are capable of being tracked at all levels and Many times even losing their lives, that is why I love anonymity.

Banks and financial institutions have their own rules, because the employees who work in banks or financial institutions are mainly focused on money. Therefore, such rules are mentioned that the employees will stay away from gambling, so no bank employee will automatically be able to come into contact with gambling. But that officer was definitely involved in gambling, which is why he was fired from his job, because the bank pays them wages to manage the bank's money.
However, in the end, the verdict goes in favor of the bank in court, and here that bank employee is definitely guilty, because he was busy gambling. However, this will be a lesson for all gamblers, because if you work in banks or financial institutions, you must stay away from gambling because it can disrupt the work of the bank.

Everyone has their own freedom, he has the right to do whatever he wants in his personal time. But if he is involved in such activities during his job time, then it is definitely inappropriate. Such activities of his refer that he is either indifferent to work or he is addicted. No such person is qualified to work in any financial institution. Because there is a possibility of a big bad situation due to a small mistake. There are many gamblers who are involved in stealing money. If a bank employee is addicted to such activities, then it will have a big negative impact on the reputation of that bank.

If a fabricated decision is taken without completely observing this person, then it may have a big negative impact on that person. Therefore, before taking any decision should investigate thoroughly and the decision should be taken. So that he does not become a victim and is not punished.

Well on another thought, the employee may have some right if he is not messing up with his work and the Bank money is saved with him, this is very important because we still have some bankers that gamble and you will never know since cryptocurrency gambling enable high privacy so all that the employee need is the knowledge and when and how to gamble, banks don't work on weekends so why not gamble during the weekend in your privacy using cryptocurrency, not your bank account since the Bank could detect your transactions to know if you deposited to a casino or not, so it all depends on the gambler and how he chooses to handle things as regards to gambling and responsibilities at work.

I am not sure if bankers gamble because they may have a hard time finding the time especially during office hours when account holders come to them to transact their money. However I agree with you that many bankers gamble outside office hours and I have seen many of them involved in crypto related transactions.
You should not do any crypto related activities like account pay or p2p transactions from your bank account which can be a hindrance to your personal security. I use alternative means for gambling or betting so that it is not easy to identify me. I am more inclined to be conscious about personal security.

I think that even some senior bank employees play, but they do not talk about it and deliberately hide it. And if an ordinary bank employee, who is always in sight, can easily be noticed gambling, even during lunchtime, then managers are much more difficult. Nevertheless, the line is very thin, whether gambling will affect the employee or not, but it is likely that if he loses during work, his mood can greatly worsen and he can make a mistake or be rude to customers. In any case, I always prefer to play in a calm atmosphere, and gambling at work is not imagined.

every businesses has their own rules but prohibiting their employees to be involved in gambling is definitely cannot be watched over time because like now that Online gambling is truly rampant in which players can hide their activities without anyone knowing their actions.


But this thread has served its topic and I think this is the time for locking , thanks for all who participated in this discussion , very appreciated .