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Title: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Iconicfraudster on May 26, 2014, 05:24:23 PM The Group Behind The Libertycoin Scam
What I am about to write will without a doubt cause a rift within our community , but I feel this is something I must do to protect the investment of innocent people who believe in LibertyCoin. I ask everyone whether you support me or not, to carefully read and analyse my words without prejudice. When I first started invested in this community I was enthusiastic to be part of a community that is inspiring and full with enthusiasm. For a couple weeks I have known about a coordinated effort to pump the price of Liberty coin. I did not make it officially public because of the ramifications it would have on this community. I thought with the help of others I could stop or at the very least greatly diminish this without letting the general public know, unfortunately we were unsuccessful. There is a prominent group in the libertycoin thread that are all responsible for manipulating the price of LibertyCoin for a couple weeks. Their group owns roughly 91% of the total supply of LibertyCoins. But that is not what they really want, they want your Bitcoin. Since they could not take control of BC They decided to create their own coin to profit off of. They wanted it to seem like a fair release so they came up with the idea of using the official multi-pool to steal everybody's hash and keep the coins for themselves. They would trick everyone into thinking it was the multi-pool fault so they could keep the coins in what would be an disguised instamine launch. They would list it as a 5 day launch but sped up the block times to make sure it only lasted 3.5 days. They would then move the coins to hundred of different wallet address, create fake bitcointalk accounts in order to give the illusion the coin was fairly distributed. Step 1 complete I had no clue at the time any of this was occurring until Troiste started to actively post in the black coin thread that Libertycoin would be the next coin to pump. This is when Step 2 came into play. They had 91% market cap of a coin worth $10.000 now they needed to increase this to at least $1.100.000 in order to have a big payday. In order to do this they simply bought and sold to themselves so that they retain both the bitcoin and the liberty coin but give the illusion of lots of interest and money flowing into the coin. This can be done relatively cheaply as it only cost about 0.82 btc in fees per 542btc worth of volume at a price of 0.00005500. With that sort of volume you quickly get noticed and brought onto Mintpal. Step 3 pump and fleece, By then pumping the price up until enough new money came in they could then smash the price down and buy half back collecting more and more btc each time by organizing pump and dumps. They then planned to try and get new money, by getting you to encourage your family and friends to put all their hard earned money in, so that they can cash out over a million dollars in a little under a few weeks. In the meantime they sell you a copycat project that allows them to make extra profit and try to make it look that they are legitimately working to promote the coin. Well toting it as the next big thing. Everything in this coin is simply a copy and paste half assed effort, they will use images and words of encouragement that Libertycoin will be the next big thing, but look at the facts and stop fooling yourself. There is only a small group of people that will make a million plus and your not included. The best scam is when people don't even know they have been scammed. Step 4 they will use fake accounts to get angry and post fud about them so they can say their not appreciated and exit to create their own coin in June as scheduled. Now please ask yourself these questions: If the coin code is copy and paste, of badger/hack which is a copy paste of nova which is a copy paste of peercoin how will this coin succeed? Why is the press releases and paper wallets copy and paste? How can you claim it was a fair launch when it didn't even last 4 days? (Think bitcoin/litecoin/peercoin/darkcoin how long have they been mined) Why did they delete everybody's post who had coins stolen from the multi-pool? How is it legal to offer free escorts when it may be illegal in their jurisdiction? What are you using to implement anonymous technology? Who is doing it for a 2 btc bounty when other coins couldn't find anybody to do it for under 50 btc? Why does Iconicexpert have access to the dev account, since he is not a developer? (Most devs will simply let the community know who is the marketing direct, not give them access to their personal account) Why is there no white paper, is it just fedoras mixer and an encrypted block chain? what are the "unique properties" as you state that Liberty coin has unique properties? What new an exciting payment methods not covered by other payment systems does it offer since you make that claim? Why do you censor peoples liberty in the official thread? (Taking away liberty from libertycoin) Now you can believe me or you can think this is some lame attempt to get you to sell cheaper but please start asking yourself these questions. If you saw a way that you could use money donated from one coins community to fund a scam that would net you around a million dollars in under a month would you? I felt this was my last option because after today they would be unstoppable. I was faced with a hard decision to make. If I did not say anything people will continue to be ripped off. If I do say something my revelation might cause investors to lose faith in the coin. So I did not make this decision without giving it a lot of thought and time. This is a signal to start dumping coins! Try to Recoup as much of your investment as you can! Let them hold their bag of shit although they have probably already made at least 100 btcs off of it. Please share this information in anyway you can, get it out quickly before their Libertyday fleeces millions from people Now you know what is going on behind the scenes, here are some of the quotes that will help expose this scam: Looks like it is a scam, the scammy pools are probably together with dev no ipo, no premine but 75%coin scammed from pool !!! lol dev or not this coin has no future, really to much coin scammed We really need to make sure this scammy shitcoin never hits an exchange. Let the exchange owners know that listing this shitcoin would be like receiving stolen property. That's what I have in mind at least. You will never make the dev Mr. delete-a-post understand his responsibility, so it's important these scammers can not turn their(Perhaps should be: OUR) loot into Bitcoins. Can't withdraw NO PAYOUT , EVEN IT'S MISSING DEBIT OPTION My post is deleted , big ass https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46151949/LBNoDebitFilter.jpg Please post anything deleted by the little man behind the curtain on the official scamcoin thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602762.new#new also someone tried to access to one of my accounts in the pool, just few hours after the launch if you are a miner of libertycoin then you should think again a self moderated topic Libertycoin is a big scam Dev scamming peoples miners not getting their coins they are deleting users comment on their thread security hole in their code Dev can stealmine as much as XLB they want in short Libertycoin = ScamCoin libertycoin is full of scam a complete shitcoin reply to this thread to keep it active your one post can save many newbies from scam libertycoin I have a little warning for the people who use any coin that implementing Zerocoin like Libertycoin :) Zerocoin's technology require generation of "initial parameter", you can think about it as a "master key". This master key need to be deleted right after it was used and nobody should know about it. Technically, whole security of the currency depend on this "master key". Anyone who gained access to it would have ability to control double spend (i.e. he can create infinite amount of coin, another kind of premine). The creation and destruction of this initial parameter need to be performed in a trusted way to make sure that nobody can know it, include the developer. So, if you guy believe that dev is honest, you can use the coin. If you don't trust him, stay away from that. That's my warning, i'm not trying to spread FUD, but this is some technical information people should know about Zerocoin :) People. The devs don't have control if the pools operator are scammer or not. From the specs and name of this coin. This is a very good coin. My only issue is the master key being raised by one user here and I hope any other people here will take a look at the code and review for any possible exploits or hidden scams like the AC fiasco. Other than that, this coin is great. NICE Censorship here. Troiste can accuse ppl here, If someone wants to correct his BS its getting deleted?? No, because what you are posting is incorrect. If it wasn't for Troiste no one would have even heard about Liberycoin, and that is a fact. So the initial success of Liberty is due to Troiste, and he has been instrumental in helping me continue the success of this coin. What was incorrect at my initial post? Read post #4400 and tell me that's not childish! Anyways there are more ppl involved to help this coin, you and Troiste shouldn't forget about that, they may hold *some* coins. I will say it once more. If it was not for Troiste this coin would not have received the initial excitement it did, that is a fact. He also also pledge a decent amount of BTC to help this community. There are a lot of people helping out, and it takes an entire community to make a coin successful. However, it was Troiste the made me and others take notice, and he got the ball rolling. Furthermore, I do not care what HardwarePal did in the past if he is posting info about another coin here. It is counterproductive and it shows he is not a true supporter of XLB. He is more than welcome to support whatever coin he desires, but he needs to refrain from posting about it here. Now lets get back to focusing on XLB. Any other childish FUD or non XLB related topics will be deleted. I will not lie I support multiple coins I openly say that in IRC. My initial thought was to get anon out as fast as possible as someone would jump onto this. I have access to the Libertycoin account but I rather use my account to post updates. Anything that I post should be taken as if it was coming from the official account. PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT When LibertyCoin gets to 0.01 BTC I will be personally paying out one escort for every single member that applies to this initiative! Send me a PM with the subject "escort" for you to be recorded in history Share this post with everyone you know! In other threads or forums, IRC, Facebook, Twitter, etc... But wait... If you share this post you will not only get 1 escort but 2 escorts for free! SHARE NOW! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600322.msg6856412#msg6856412 Lets celebrate the price 0.01 BTC in style ;D Lets show everybody who is the best coin of the world! LibertyCoin! The coin that even gives you a blow***! LibertyCoin 16 Million Supply POS 1% Anon soon Current price: $0.022 (Bargain) Trade: https://www.mintpal.com/market/XLB/BTC 27th May is the Liberty Day! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600322.msg6855773#msg6855773 The Libertycoin community raised 2 BTC and 100K XLB for someone to implement Darksend or any other Anonymizer to Libertycoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600322.0 Quote Libertycoin uses peer-to-peer technology to operate with no central authority or banks; managing transactions and the issuing of bitcoins is carried out collectively by the network. Libertycoin is open-source; its design is public, nobody owns or controls Bitcoin and everyone can take part. Through many of its unique properties, Libertycoin allows exciting uses that could not be covered by any previous payment system. from https://libertycoin.co/about/ You forgot to swap Bitcoin for Libertycoin mid text and should you really be claiming that Libertycoin allows for uses that no previous payment system covers? Obvious hatchet job is obvious. Similar issues w/ 'litecoin' on the paper wallet page: https://www.libertycoin.co/paperwallet/ I don't get the darksend talk as it's not even opensourced yet. A better option may be something like Fedora's coin mixing, which if I recall correctly, wasn't really decentralized... but it's better than nothing. Darksend is not decentralized either. They promise they'll make it decentralized but it's not yet. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: activecoin on May 26, 2014, 05:32:03 PM That was alot of reading, skip that liberty stuff and mine ACT man.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: poochpocket on May 26, 2014, 05:36:28 PM FUD from an account with 0 post. Coward.
Ask yourself. What's this person's motivation to help you, or to help themselves? Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: edubai on May 26, 2014, 05:38:57 PM we want answers >:(
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: TheProf on May 26, 2014, 05:46:28 PM Thats a lot of info and it is always good to share your views of what you know. Wouldn't it then also make sense to ride the waves they make? In brief moments you can see things happening as they are happening not after, so why not then follow up on them and benefit from what they are doing if what you say they are doing is true. They start a pump, you buy, you can see when it is about to to crest and follow down the other side, you sell. That is just logical. Or did you fall behind and then feel that they wronged you?
Two sides to every story. Even if they hold the big bags and are getting to a point where they can profit well, why should you stop all others from profiting as well? Just curious... Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: mr_random on May 26, 2014, 05:52:02 PM Anyone with a brain can see there are a ton of fake accounts posting in that Libertycoin topic.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: TheProf on May 26, 2014, 05:56:31 PM Of course, but due to them I have made much more back than I have with mining a hundred other 'the next big thing' coin. If they are doing what is said, it is wrong in a way, but because of that I have done well as I am sure plenty others have as well. The common sense would be to cover costs first then gamble with the rest. Cryptocoins is a stock exchange these days, never gamble what you can't afford to lose...
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Iconicfraudster on May 26, 2014, 06:02:42 PM FUD from an account with 0 post. Coward. Ask yourself. What's this person's motivation to help you, or to help themselves? Motive-to make sure others don't get scammed- see below response for more. Thats a lot of info and it is always good to share your views of what you know. Wouldn't it then also make sense to ride the waves they make? In brief moments you can see things happening as they are happening not after, so why not then follow up on them and benefit from what they are doing if what you say they are doing is true. They start a pump, you buy, you can see when it is about to to crest and follow down the other side, you sell. That is just logical. Or did you fall behind and then feel that they wronged you? Two sides to every story. Even if they hold the big bags and are getting to a point where they can profit well, why should you stop all others from profiting as well? Just curious... To end your curiosity I used all the bitcoin I had made from the last few months to rent miners to mine Libertycoin. I Should have had 50k but I never saw one. They took all my money, I don't want others to experience the same with the 2nd phase of their scam! All their coins were free/stolen, easy to make money when you don't have to buy. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: TheProf on May 26, 2014, 06:04:36 PM 24 hash?
Edit: If it's them thats the case, they paid me out. So I have to argue there. I do see however some were not paid out, according to them. I don't know. I see a lot of crap around on all coins. I have to look into all the full details. I have yet to find a pool that has not responded to me accordingly when something has gone wrong. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: germsite on May 26, 2014, 06:10:01 PM The Group etc[/size] You do yourself and the wider crypto community no favours engaging in this type of behaviour. While I understand your frustration that certain individuals appear to get away with actions that the majority deem to be reprehensible, playing that same game in order to try to score back points serves no purpose other than to feed such individuals the oxygen that they crave, and, more importantly, has a habit of backfiring. These individuals only 'appear' to get away with things. Long term, their actions cme back to haunt them in one way or another. Let it go, channel your energy into something positive and constructive. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: TheProf on May 26, 2014, 06:12:21 PM The Group etc[/size] You do yourself and the wider crypto community no favours engaging in this type of behaviour. While I understand your frustration that certain individuals appear to get away with actions that the majority deem to be reprehensible, playing that same game in order to try to score back points serves no purpose other than to feed such individuals the oxygen that they crave, and, more importantly, has a habit of backfiring. These individuals only 'appear' to get away with things. Long term, their actions cme back to haunt them in one way or another. Let it go, channel your energy into something positive and constructive. Yup... Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: acuriousman on May 26, 2014, 06:15:10 PM Good Lord, first DRK gets hit with FUD and now XLB?
What is even happening right now? Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: TenaciousC on May 26, 2014, 06:19:09 PM for F sake, is THIS what we have become??????????????
PLEASE STOP THIS CONSTANT FUD AND BS SPREADING!!! How do you want crypto to get accepted by the everage Joe/Jane when it's like a kids garden in here? Don't fight your fights here or on the internet, meet, fight, resolve! Have a beer afterwarts and start with clean slate! Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 26, 2014, 06:31:31 PM Crypto will never get accepted at this rate, the greed amongst us is disgusting. :(
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: bluestskies on May 26, 2014, 06:33:20 PM I knew something was fishy with this coin. I follow the 'official' thread and besides the blatant censoring of anyone with an opinion that isn't rah rah libertycoin, it has flashed signs of scam since the beginning. I don't believe the devs will actually create anything new, they just promise innovation to fuel the 'buy on the rumor' mantra...everyone keeps asking for updates and all I hear are people (iconic/troiste other alt accounts) instead saying to stock up because they're going to the moon, with promises of hookers and riches hahaha.
I've been day trading it a bit but do hope people who are invested are weary about any longterm investment and watch markets closely in case they need to get out. edit, wild, empty promises like this just posted: Guys, the biggest whales of this world are already informed about Libertycoin. They are now in meetings with tech guys figuring out the procedure how to invest in Libertycoin, from A to B, from wallet installation and security, to trading and transactions management. Wait few moments, maybe some days, or tomorrow already in the Liberty Day :) There is going to be a boom so high that will send shock waves to all the crypto world. Just stay tuned. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Teka on May 26, 2014, 06:33:37 PM for F sake, is THIS what we have become?????????????? PLEASE STOP THIS CONSTANT FUD AND BS SPREADING!!! How do you want crypto to get accepted by the everage Joe/Jane when it's like a kids garden in here? Don't fight your fights here or on the internet, meet, fight, resolve! Have a beer afterwarts and start with clean slate! I couldn't agree more. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Bit-Gods on May 26, 2014, 06:35:08 PM And we suppose to believe you? Why you hide behind a new member?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: TenaciousC on May 26, 2014, 06:39:45 PM As much as i hate rules and censorship, I'm afraid we'll might need to implement some strickter rules on boards like bitcointalk,etc... this constant blaming each other is starting to scare people off.
This year is critical for Crypto adaption, if we get destroyed because of internal fighting we'll might just fade away like the tamagotchi hype :) Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: ScottAllyn on May 26, 2014, 06:40:14 PM [...] This is all just wishful speculation by somebody who clearly feels that he has been violated by Iconic Express. The fact that he can't even post from his regular username but instead chose to create one that mocks Iconic completely discredits everything that he has to say. If you let this rubbish convince you to dump coins, YOU are the one that has been scammed. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: TenaciousC on May 26, 2014, 06:41:01 PM I knew something was fishy with this coin. I follow the 'official' thread and besides the blatant censoring of anyone with an opinion that isn't rah rah libertycoin, it has flashed signs of scam since the beginning. I don't believe the devs will actually create anything new, they just promise innovation to fuel the 'buy on the rumor' mantra...everyone keeps asking for updates and all I hear are people (iconic/troiste other alt accounts) instead saying to stock up because they're going to the moon, with promises of hookers and riches hahaha. I've been day trading it a bit but do hope people who are invested are weary about any longterm investment and watch markets closely in case they need to get out. +1. Exited my position today. Ow look, another 0 post wanker coming to spray some asscum over our community! why don't you take your belt out of your pants and fucking hang yourself? you can even use mine if you want, just don't bleed on it Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: SrsCrypto on May 26, 2014, 06:41:18 PM lol @ comparing crypto and tamagotchi
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: bluestskies on May 26, 2014, 06:43:20 PM for F sake, is THIS what we have become?????????????? PLEASE STOP THIS CONSTANT FUD AND BS SPREADING!!! How do you want crypto to get accepted by the everage Joe/Jane when it's like a kids garden in here? Don't fight your fights here or on the internet, meet, fight, resolve! Have a beer afterwarts and start with clean slate! I agree, but can't the same be said for scam coins that also keep popping up - either ones with viruses or hidden premines that also ruin the reputation of alts, a la asiacoin? An average joe can just as easily be burned/turned off to alts by all the blatant scams popping up after they lose money. I do think a line has to be drawn between fud and a community watching out for one another but I'd rather have things like this...be weary of a coin rather than be blindsided by a coin. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: NeuTroiste on May 26, 2014, 06:46:19 PM Seems legit LOL
Just want to tell you this: Switch off the internet and just come back when you are 18 ;) I laugh all the time at all you kids, look at all that effort writing tones of shit haha. You are nothing but a worthless loser, with nothing to do with your life watching porn every night. Grow up kid, one day you will understand life. Now, back to business: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddtfoiaWGqs#t=28 Here some tip for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqeq37hTrzM Ah but wait, you need to be 18 at least, maybe is not helpful for you ;) Ping me in 7 years when you get there, I will be able to get you something in McDonalds or Burger King Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Karlheinz1 on May 26, 2014, 06:50:49 PM We need topics like this to weed out the bad actors from our community.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: coinme.info on May 26, 2014, 06:53:32 PM 24 hash? Edit: If it's them thats the case, they paid me out. So I have to argue there. I do see however some were not paid out, according to them. I don't know. I see a lot of crap around on all coins. I have to look into all the full details. I have yet to find a pool that has not responded to me accordingly when something has gone wrong. 24 hash never paid out the 11k XLBs I mined there before I switched due to the non payouts. Emails to the operator including to the address he gave in his later post saying he would sort all the payouts were never replied to and I've yet to see any coins from 24 Hash. Someone dumped 300k of XLB on Mintpal 6 hours ago. https://i.imgur.com/FgLz7iH.jpg Something isn't right here... Was that 24 Hash cashing out? Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: TheProf on May 26, 2014, 06:57:57 PM Again, 24hash paid me out so I can't say a bad word against them, as time goes on I just see a personal vendetta group growing here. So this will be my last post here.
Cheers Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: cakir on May 26, 2014, 06:58:04 PM JUST A REMINDER TO THIS IDIOT WHO TAKE THIS PICTURE. IT WAS MINED BEFORE TWO WEEKS WITH LOTS OF GHS. THIS PICTURE JUST SHOWS THE MINTING HASHPOWER... (JUST LOOK AT THE POS YOU IDIOT) ALL COINS MINED WITH 1mhash over 3 days????? http://dealazer.com/XLBFAKECOIN/BLOCK.png What happened to all other x-11 coins as the source is ONLY AVAILABLE TOO DUFFIELD! INFO ON THA NET: 11 is a chained hashing algorithm approach, taking 11 hashing algorithms from the sphlib. Created by Evan Duffield, X11 consists of blake, bmw, groestl, jh, keccak, skein, luffa, cubehash, shavite, simd, and echo. X11 was first used in Darkcoin, also created by Duffield, but has gone on to be used in many other coins. GPU miners that mine with the X11 algorithm are currently experiencing reduced power usage (up to 50%) and reduced heat generation compared to the scrypt algorithm. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: coinme.info on May 26, 2014, 06:59:46 PM Again, 24hash paid me out so I can't say a bad word against them, as time goes on I just see a personal vendetta group growing here. So this will be my last post here. Cheers I guess you were one of the lucky ones. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: testadimerlo on May 26, 2014, 07:00:15 PM ROTFLMAO,
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: mistersushi on May 26, 2014, 07:01:15 PM OP actually created a new ID to post this shit? Obviously OP and his buddies feel threatened by LibertyCoin. Please do dump so I can buy. Oh wait, maybe that's OP's motive?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Iconicfraudster on May 26, 2014, 07:02:02 PM Seems legit LOL Just want to tell you this: Switch off the internet and just come back when you are 18 ;) I laugh all the time at all you kids, look at all that effort writing tones of shit haha. You are nothing but a worthless loser, with nothing to do with your life watching porn every night. Grow up kid, one day you will understand life. Now, back to business: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddtfoiaWGqs#t=28 Here some tip for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqeq37hTrzM Ah but wait, you need to be 18 at least, maybe is not helpful for you ;) Ping me in 7 years when you get there, I will be able to get you something in McDonalds or Burger King As one of the main faces of Libertycoin I would think that you would try and address the concerns and questions posed by my scam outing. Instead you choose not to reassure your community with factual answers but instead choose to insult me with the same insults you have posted 1000 times to different people. You then promise the world to the community with extremely vague statements. You can tell I put a lot of time into my post, you should learn how to do the same if you truly believe in your product. But I get it, your upset, the truth has come out and Your pissed your scam will no longer work. To everybody else, no it shouldn't have to be this way but I felt this information had to come out. They are pushing today to be a sucker everybody you know to buy Libertycoin and when they are all left holding a worthless bag, that will do the advancement of crypto and crypto community no favours. I am not here to tell anybody what they should invest in, just point out a lot of facts that have been deleted and omitted from the main thread! Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Karlheinz1 on May 26, 2014, 07:02:56 PM 24 hash? Edit: If it's them thats the case, they paid me out. So I have to argue there. I do see however some were not paid out, according to them. I don't know. I see a lot of crap around on all coins. I have to look into all the full details. I have yet to find a pool that has not responded to me accordingly when something has gone wrong. 24 hash never paid out the 11k XLBs I mined there before I switched due to the non payouts. Emails to the operator including to the address he gave in his later post saying he would sort all the payouts were never replied to and I've yet to see any coins from 24 Hash. Someone dumped 300k of XLB on Mintpal 6 hours ago. https://i.imgur.com/FgLz7iH.jpg Something isn't right here... Was that 24 Hash cashing out? :'( Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED X Post by: Edraket31 on May 26, 2014, 07:03:06 PM Well....The good thing about this topic is that Iconic Expert can not delete the posts he doesn't like. ;D
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: testadimerlo on May 26, 2014, 07:05:58 PM Children, you should go to bad not too late
If all of us let's start to spread fud just for personal reasons, here become a total shit. Go to bad and sleep a bit, tomorrow will be a better day Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Brembomix on May 26, 2014, 07:06:48 PM 24 hash? Edit: If it's them thats the case, they paid me out. So I have to argue there. I do see however some were not paid out, according to them. I don't know. I see a lot of crap around on all coins. I have to look into all the full details. I have yet to find a pool that has not responded to me accordingly when something has gone wrong. 24 hash never paid out the 11k XLBs I mined there before I switched due to the non payouts. Emails to the operator including to the address he gave in his later post saying he would sort all the payouts were never replied to and I've yet to see any coins from 24 Hash. Someone dumped 300k of XLB on Mintpal 6 hours ago. https://i.imgur.com/FgLz7iH.jpg Something isn't right here... Was that 24 Hash cashing out? Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: NeuTroiste on May 26, 2014, 07:09:02 PM Seems legit LOL Just want to tell you this: Switch off the internet and just come back when you are 18 ;) I laugh all the time at all you kids, look at all that effort writing tones of shit haha. You are nothing but a worthless loser, with nothing to do with your life watching porn every night. Grow up kid, one day you will understand life. Now, back to business: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddtfoiaWGqs#t=28 Here some tip for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqeq37hTrzM Ah but wait, you need to be 18 at least, maybe is not helpful for you ;) Ping me in 7 years when you get there, I will be able to get you something in McDonalds or Burger King As one of the main faces of Libertycoin I would think that you would try and address the concerns and questions posed by my scam outing. Instead you choose not to reassure your community with factual answers but instead choose to insult me with the same insults you have posted 1000 times to different people. You then promise the world to the community with extremely vague statements. You can tell I put a lot of time into my post, you should learn how to do the same if you truly believe in your product. But I get it, your upset, the truth has come out and Your pissed your scam will no longer work. To everybody else, no it shouldn't have to be this way but I felt this information had to come out. They are pushing today to be a sucker everybody you know to buy Libertycoin and when they are all left holding a worthless bag, that will do the advancement of crypto and crypto community no favours. I am not here to tell anybody what they should invest in, just point out a lot of facts that have been deleted and omitted from the main thread! What scam you piece of shit? First of all I found LibertyCoin by chance on 11th May and I know nothing about mining. I placed my money on this fucking idiot. Look at this guy, a guy with a fake account with zero posts trying to create FUD with bullshit. I didn't even bother to read all that shit. You think I'm going to spend my Brain processing capacity reading a bunch of characters that form sentences that make no sense at all just to create FUD? LOL I have more to do, good luck with your dump campaign, I'm with you! DUMP IT ALL!!! BRING IT ON!!!! Listen, let me tell you something, dump it all ;) I Love it, just dump it. I will personally PM you when LibertyCoin is at $1 ;) To all: If you go for this guy and want to dump and I tell you this: JUST DUMP. If you trust this kind of shit you are just an idiot like this guy and better you get off of this coin. DUMP IT ALL!!!! I will get some popcorns to watch the action ;) Thanks for this. I LOVE ACTION!!!!!!!!!! DUMP IT ALL HAHAHAHHAHAHA Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Karlheinz1 on May 26, 2014, 07:11:52 PM XLB has just sunk from 15k to 10k.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Caesar V on May 26, 2014, 07:13:37 PM God, this place makes me feel so smart..
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED X Post by: alison03 on May 26, 2014, 07:18:39 PM Well....The good thing about this topic is that Iconic Expert can not delete the posts he doesn't like. ;D I lol'ed, because someone just posted: Is there a possibility to remove that artikel? Fud fud fud. It's like their knee jerk reaction to everything....delete delete delete if it isn't 'to da moon' for the coin. I do believe people need to be careful with the coin...when your main promoter talks like this, I'd always be weary: You are nothing but a worthless loser, with nothing to do with your life watching porn every night. What scam you piece of shit? First of all I found LibertyCoin by chance on 11th May and I know nothing about mining. I placed my money on this fucking idiot. and the countless other times he just swears at people and called them a fa* for disagreeing with him (he was already banned once)...just be careful. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED X Post by: minedout on May 26, 2014, 07:20:55 PM Well....The good thing about this topic is that Iconic Expert can not delete the posts he doesn't like. ;D I lol'ed, because someone just posted: Is there a possibility to remove that artikel? Fud fud fud. It's like their knee jerk reaction to everything....delete delete delete if it isn't 'to da moon' for the coin. I do believe people need to be careful with the coin...when your main promoter talks like this, I'd always be weary: You are nothing but a worthless loser, with nothing to do with your life watching porn every night. What scam you piece of shit? First of all I found LibertyCoin by chance on 11th May and I know nothing about mining. I placed my money on this fucking idiot. and the countless other times he just swears at people and called them a fa* for disagreeing with him (he was already banned once)...just be careful. Finally, some common sense appears! XLB and all the people running it are not good. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED X Post by: Karlheinz1 on May 26, 2014, 07:25:45 PM Finally, some common sense appears! XLB and all the people running it are not good. If you watch XLB topic you'll notice a group of the core posters are always online and posting at the same time. When one is offline they are all offline. It's almost as if it's the same person. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Iconicfraudster on May 26, 2014, 07:27:10 PM I didn't even bother to read all that shit. You think I'm going to spend my Brain processing capacity reading a bunch of characters that form sentences that make no sense at all just to create FUD? LOL There called WORDS What scam you piece of shit? First of all I found LibertyCoin by chance on 11th May and I know nothing about mining. I placed my money on this fucking idiot. Look at this guy, a guy with a fake account with zero posts trying to create FUD with bullshit. I didn't even bother to read all that shit. You think I'm going to spend my Brain processing capacity reading a bunch of characters that form sentences that make no sense at all just to create FUD? LOL I have more to do, good luck with your dump campaign, I'm with you! DUMP IT ALL!!! BRING IT ON!!!! Listen, let me tell you something, dump it all ;) I Love it, just dump it. I will personally PM you when LibertyCoin is at $1 ;) To all: If you go for this guy and want to dump and I tell you this: JUST DUMP. If you trust this kind of shit you are just an idiot like this guy and better you get off of this coin. DUMP IT ALL!!!! I will get some popcorns to watch the action ;) Thanks for this. I LOVE ACTION!!!!!!!!!! DUMP IT ALL HAHAHAHHAHAHA Once again This is the guy your tusting with your investment. Notice how all the questions I posed Nobody from the liberty team has addressed they just say FUD don't believe it but they have no Real answers or information they just give you BUY FUD Remember: If it wasn't for Troiste no one would have even heard about Liberycoin, and that is a fact. So the initial success of Liberty is due to Troiste, and he has been instrumental in helping me continue the success of this coin. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED X Post by: gg234 on May 26, 2014, 07:28:15 PM They are deleting all -ve comments from the original thread and whoever is invested they are not able to digest this
Finally, some common sense appears! XLB and all the people running it are not good. If you watch XLB topic you'll notice a group of the core posters are always online and posting at the same time. When one is offline they are all offline. It's almost as if it's the same person. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: NeuTroiste on May 26, 2014, 07:29:39 PM I didn't even bother to read all that shit. You think I'm going to spend my Brain processing capacity reading a bunch of characters that form sentences that make no sense at all just to create FUD? LOL There called WORDS What scam you piece of shit? First of all I found LibertyCoin by chance on 11th May and I know nothing about mining. I placed my money on this fucking idiot. Look at this guy, a guy with a fake account with zero posts trying to create FUD with bullshit. I didn't even bother to read all that shit. You think I'm going to spend my Brain processing capacity reading a bunch of characters that form sentences that make no sense at all just to create FUD? LOL I have more to do, good luck with your dump campaign, I'm with you! DUMP IT ALL!!! BRING IT ON!!!! Listen, let me tell you something, dump it all ;) I Love it, just dump it. I will personally PM you when LibertyCoin is at $1 ;) To all: If you go for this guy and want to dump and I tell you this: JUST DUMP. If you trust this kind of shit you are just an idiot like this guy and better you get off of this coin. DUMP IT ALL!!!! I will get some popcorns to watch the action ;) Thanks for this. I LOVE ACTION!!!!!!!!!! DUMP IT ALL HAHAHAHHAHAHA Once again This is the guy your tusting with your investment. Notice how all the questions I posed Nobody from the liberty team has addressed they just say FUD don't believe it but they have no Real answers or information they just give you BUY FUD Remember: If it wasn't for Troiste no one would have even heard about Liberycoin, and that is a fact. So the initial success of Liberty is due to Troiste, and he has been instrumental in helping me continue the success of this coin. Shut up and keep dumping, I'm transferring huge amounts of BTCs to the exchange. DONT STOP!! DUMP IT ALL!!!! Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Stormbringer on May 26, 2014, 07:29:58 PM 24hash.com didn't payed, people behind it are thief, stoled all coins, this coin was a scam from the beginning.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: mistersushi on May 26, 2014, 07:32:14 PM SELL YOU FOOLS, SELL!!!
I'm buying all I can ;D Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: avatarius1 on May 26, 2014, 07:34:46 PM This is EPIC price manipilation! My applauses!
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: NeuTroiste on May 26, 2014, 07:35:44 PM SELL YOU FOOLS, SELL!!! I'm buying all I can ;D LOL I'm loving this, props for this guy who had the idea to create the FUD. Thanks again my friend!!!!! Dump a bit more, I dont have the BTCs yet in the exchanges... these BTC confirmations take forever.... DUMP! Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: bluestskies on May 26, 2014, 07:39:05 PM Shut up and keep dumping, I'm transferring huge amounts of BTCs to the exchange. DONT STOP!! DUMP IT ALL!!!! So the guy on the team who already hold 90% or more of the coins is transferring "huge amounys of btc" to buy more. Seems legit. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: solid12345 on May 26, 2014, 07:44:34 PM Of course anyone can throw accusations around easily, but I look at the facts, and the fact is Blackcoin was on its greatest roll towards becoming the next Litecoin and a small group of greedy individuals who held all the coins dumped it from 90k all the way down to 10k. Who these people are is just speculation but it doesn't take much common sense to figure out from the terrible youtube videos and pictures the Blackcoin "foundation" is run by miscreants who look like they used to chop cars and sell weed for a living. And for ANY of these people to move on to XLB and rinse and repeat what they did with BC raises red flags for me instantly.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Jocuserious on May 26, 2014, 07:46:34 PM If everyone considers when IconicExpert promised his Wall Street friends to Blackcoin that might have looked good but what is Wall Street famous for? Price manipulation.
He got his friends together to insure huge profit from an unregulated market. Not as much profit in oil futures I guess. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Iconicfraudster on May 26, 2014, 07:48:19 PM SELL YOU FOOLS, SELL!!! I'm buying all I can ;D LOL I'm loving this, props for this guy who had the idea to create the FUD. Thanks again my friend!!!!! Dump a bit more, I dont have the BTCs yet in the exchanges... these BTC confirmations take forever.... DUMP! I view it as an attempt trying to reassure people the coin is okay, glad to see the're getting their Bitcoin back! You can have your bag of copy paste coins. I see the XLB thread is just alight with people "delighted" to get "cheap" coins but still no information on the coin itself. False promises and pictures of guys dancing around, like I said their is only a 1% that will be winners. Glad to see your losing your bitcoin! Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Karlheinz1 on May 26, 2014, 07:49:30 PM I'm laughing at the sockpuppets in the Libertycoin topic speaking to each other.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: mistersushi on May 26, 2014, 07:49:37 PM TESTIMONIAL:
I was innocently staking with my XLB wallet when suddenly it caused my computer to burst into flames. I barely escaped with my life. True story. Don't let it happen to you. Dump before it's too late! Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: L3pje on May 26, 2014, 07:49:41 PM Thanks to this thread I was able to sell my stack at 13ksat and rebuy at 11ksat.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: bluestskies on May 26, 2014, 07:53:38 PM Honestly though this thread will just make them more money, when you control the market share you can do whatever you want and you're just getting people panic buying + selling into them True. Look at their thread. It's only iconic and his alts/group of minions screaming (to each other) to buy and are building fake walls to prop the price up. I'm not saying there isnt money to be made there...just to be weary of who is in charge and to not let greed catch you off guard. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Iconicfraudster on May 26, 2014, 07:57:31 PM Honestly though this thread will just make them more money, when you control the market share you can do whatever you want and you're just getting people panic buying + selling into them They only make money if people Rebuy in, There is about 1000 other coins you can go make money on. With all the sketchy behaviour and fake promises hopefully most people will give it a miss. I wouldn't be surprised to see them pump it in an attempt to save face, but at the end of the day they can't beat the facts. Even if people don't want to believe me that the multipool took my coins there is no denying that the mining period only went for 3 1/2 days Under no circumstances is that a fair POW distribution, that alone is enough to hurt the longevity of the project. Also why won't they release any information on the Dev, the projects, the anon devs, as well as a coin that constantly has to hire people to do their coding generally isn't going to last long. The only thing they release is a new photos or videos telling you how they are going to make you rich. The scream FUD because they can't address any of the real issues. Like has been said they just delete delete delete and hope it goes away! Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: PhattyBanks on May 26, 2014, 08:00:58 PM was 24hash run by dem yellows?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: BLACKCOIN883 on May 26, 2014, 08:01:35 PM this shitcoin launched with anon claims and cant deliver, look at that xc coin i wish i would have chosen that over this liberty shit.
ive had enough im out of this coin. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Karlheinz1 on May 26, 2014, 08:09:26 PM this shitcoin launched with anon claims and cant deliver, look at that xc coin i wish i would have chosen that over this liberty shit. ive had enough im out of this coin. I won't lie I dumped everyone of my dirty filthy Libertycoins for XC. 5 minutes reading you can tell it's legit and has active development. Not a pump and dump like certain coins on this board. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: balu2 on May 26, 2014, 08:09:45 PM thanks for making this thread
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: mistersushi on May 26, 2014, 08:18:58 PM Haters gonna hate....
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: SunnyIgor on May 26, 2014, 08:19:46 PM Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Jocuserious on May 26, 2014, 08:34:14 PM Yeah...he is not legit. He just posted a promise to take XLB to #3 and I asked him how that was dissimilar to his behavior with BC...he deleted it multiple times as I would repost after the delete. Was able to get this screenshot though. That guy is not healthy for this community.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://s25.postimg.org/kjjahenjj/Iconic.png ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Edit to add dashes in order to differentiate the screenshot with the rest of the post. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: King7- on May 26, 2014, 08:35:36 PM This looks like a well played fud to me.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: SunnyIgor on May 26, 2014, 08:36:34 PM This looks like a well played fud to me. this looks like a well played fake account to me Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: negamus on May 26, 2014, 08:38:54 PM I knew something was fishy with this coin. I follow the 'official' thread and besides the blatant censoring of anyone with an opinion that isn't rah rah libertycoin, it has flashed signs of scam since the beginning. I don't believe the devs will actually create anything new, they just promise innovation to fuel the 'buy on the rumor' mantra...everyone keeps asking for updates and all I hear are people (iconic/troiste other alt accounts) instead saying to stock up because they're going to the moon, with promises of hookers and riches hahaha. I've been day trading it a bit but do hope people who are invested are weary about any longterm investment and watch markets closely in case they need to get out. edit, wild, empty promises like this just posted: Guys, the biggest whales of this world are already informed about Libertycoin. They are now in meetings with tech guys figuring out the procedure how to invest in Libertycoin, from A to B, from wallet installation and security, to trading and transactions management. Wait few moments, maybe some days, or tomorrow already in the Liberty Day :) There is going to be a boom so high that will send shock waves to all the crypto world. Just stay tuned. Just as much as BC censoring, but I guess its ok for BC right? ::) And OP, don't be a bitch, post up on your real acct. 9:25:52 PM TheDogeOfWallSt we are going to be stepping up moderation on here and BTCTalk 9:25:59 PM TheDogeOfWallSt very much so 9:25:59 PM Soepkip in emma, in * 9:26:09 PM SoepkipTheDogeOfWallSt :) 9:26:15 PM Soepkip i'm back now 9:26:17 PM Soepkip well 9:26:17 PM Soepkip well 9:26:19 PM TheDogeOfWallSt People are going to be unhappy at first 9:26:19 PM Soepkip i'll be monday :P 9:26:25 PM TheDogeOfWallSt but they can stay unhappy for all I care 9:26:30 PM TheDogeOfWallSt I want real discourse to return to our forums 9:26:38 PM TheDogeOfWallSt Soep voip Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: TenaciousC on May 26, 2014, 08:39:14 PM Yeah...he is not legit. He just posted a promise to take XLB to #3 and I asked him how that was dissimilar to his behavior with BC...he deleted it multiple times as I would repost after the delete. Was able to get this screenshot though. That guy is not healthy for this community. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://s25.postimg.org/kjjahenjj/Iconic.png ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Edit to add dashes in order to differentiate the screenshot with the rest of the post. Was he part of the team who brought Blackcoin to the top or not? yeahhh he was... so teams can not have personal issues? So let's say you are great at your job but you totally don't agree with the direction your boss chooses for the future, you'll bend over and take it up your... or will you thanks him and go somewhere else? Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: tim14 on May 26, 2014, 08:42:19 PM This looks like a well played fud to me. this looks like a well played fake account to me +1 Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: shimlbit on May 26, 2014, 08:43:30 PM maybe help this
https://github.com/liberty-project/LibertyCoin/tree/master/doc https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=594669.msg6805650#msg6805650 i dont hold liberty or buy it...i just sold it at 15k with a big profit and now i read this and i cant belive....i dont know what i have to belive...no good feeling so i dont invest in this Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: slinger1015 on May 26, 2014, 08:46:59 PM Yeah...he is not legit. He just posted a promise to take XLB to #3 and I asked him how that was dissimilar to his behavior with BC...he deleted it multiple times as I would repost after the delete. Was able to get this screenshot though. That guy is not healthy for this community. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://s25.postimg.org/kjjahenjj/Iconic.png ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Edit to add dashes in order to differentiate the screenshot with the rest of the post. Was he part of the team who brought Blackcoin to the top or not? yeahhh he was... so teams can not have personal issues? So let's say you are great at your job but you totally don't agree with the direction your boss chooses for the future, you'll bend over and take it up your... or will you thanks him and go somewhere else? Hope he does not take your communities money then tell yeah he will give it to a charity :( I would never get into a coin he has anything to do with. I left bc now don't trust any cypto to many people like him involved. I like certain coins but seems there is always underhanded people like this around. Hope your coin bounces back. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Jocuserious on May 26, 2014, 08:49:04 PM Was he part of the team who brought Blackcoin to the top or not? yeahhh he was... so teams can not have personal issues? So let's say you are great at your job but you totally don't agree with the direction your boss chooses for the future, you'll bend over and take it up your... or will you thanks him and go somewhere else? Not in my opinion. Having friends to help bulk purchasing to go along with his big mouth is not community building nor is it any part of the dev work or marketplace adoption. This is from someone who has been observing and never took his advice. Never in BC or LBC. Doesn't mean that they weren't worth my attention in the threads. (By the way...have also told many bosses to shove it when I disagreed. Using fallacious arguments to prove an irrelevant point is just that.) Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: brammien on May 26, 2014, 08:49:19 PM Of course anyone can throw accusations around easily, but I look at the facts, and the fact is Blackcoin was on its greatest roll towards becoming the next Litecoin and a small group of greedy individuals who held all the coins dumped it from 90k all the way down to 10k. Who these people are is just speculation but it doesn't take much common sense to figure out from the terrible youtube videos and pictures the Blackcoin "foundation" is run by miscreants who look like they used to chop cars and sell weed for a living. And for ANY of these people to move on to XLB and rinse and repeat what they did with BC raises red flags for me instantly. BRAVO!!!! Been saying this for weeks, these guys are so unprofessional they change smoke on interviews. As for people now in XLB, there are a lot of people that left BC cause of foundation and the shady black hand they had going one. This is main reason they are creating FUD for XLB. Be warned, BC and it's teenager and young inexperienced scamming young adults are causing this FUD, don't be fooled. Proof is in old BC thread, if you have hours to read it, you'll see exactly what's going on here and it's NOT XLB, it's BC trolls. Don't take my word for it read it yourself. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: tim14 on May 26, 2014, 08:50:16 PM Anyone else having problems sending coins to Bittrex or Mintpal. Huge delays right now, 1 hour+.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: 18977813868 on May 26, 2014, 08:51:10 PM I did not receive coins
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Iconicfraudster on May 26, 2014, 08:53:26 PM ICONIC EXPERT DEBUNKED: Response In Green Italics
When people tell you to sell do the opposite! Is that because then you would have to take "revenge" on yourself. Why not focus on answering the communities questions? Instead of screaming PUMP. You should be motivated you have a lot to gain and nothing to lose!When People scream buy do the opposite! Crypto is now big business and people will use any tactic to get an advantage. It is very easy to get people to panic sell if you know what you are doing. It is also easy to create a clone copy coin and spend a little bitcoin in trading fees to fake volume 1. Start spreading FUD to make people doubt the dev. Why do you have access to the devs private account? 2. Start posting information about other coins in the thread to make people think there is a better option. Nope never posted anything about other coins, had to create my own thread because otherwise you would have just deleted my post 3. Post some major news about the coin being a scam and the dev is about to dump. You don't/can't deny any of the facts, others have confirmed they were ripped off by the multipool 4. Dump enough coins to make others think the dev is dumping to cause a chain reaction. I don't have any coins to dump your group stole them from me in the beginning 5. Use multiple account and post they are selling. Really you don't have multiple accounts to pump with? Does this sound familiar? People who sold their coins were scammed into this old crypto trick. People who bought into your scam in the first place were scammed, at least they can't say the were warned. Hope they realize that XLB is actually a crappier version of HACKCoin (Check the source) Never sell when someone tells you to sell! Never Buy when people yell to the moon but have no product or information to back it up This morning someone created a fake IconicExpert Twitter account and started Tweeting I am selling. HardwarePal then posted information about another coin that implemented anonymous technology. Around the same time his buddy started posting lies about me and said a huge dump was coming. Then someone created a thread with baseless FUD to scare investors. This was a coordinated plan to get XLB price to drop and many naive investors fell for it. I did not act in coordination with anybody as you constantly deleted my post about my coins getting stolen in the official Liberty thread I simply decided to collect information and post the truth for Libertyday as hopefully people that may not check everyday (most likely to be scammed would be here) Now who was involved in this attack on XLB? The same people who support BlackCoin, and do not be mistaken they are playing for keeps. I was involved, wasn't an attack so much as an information session since you deny me my liberty (and XLB) in the main thread, I tried to support liberty with hash power but had all my coins stolen, I have no intention of ever dealing in XLB again I have not sold one XLB and I actually purchased more XLB when the price fell. Now I have enough BTC invested in XLB that I want to make sure my investment is safe. So I am going to make it my mission that XLB does not fail. Because you stand to lose a lot of money if your scam fails I made a promise that I would not leave XLB until it reaches the top 10, but after today I say fuck that promise!!! I am making this community a new promise!!! I will not leave XLB until we are trading well above $10.00 and we are in the top 3 spot! Since people want to attack us and try to bring us down, I will use every resource at my disposal to make XLB succeed. You will need to, so far everything about the coin is simply copy and paste I am not going to waste my energy arguing with children who think $4000 is a fortune. I will use my energy to bring real whales into this arena and show the rest of this crypto community what a successful coin really is. Not the first time you have made that claim; I have already stated how you are manipulating the market to appear much bigger "whales" are playing I have already shown your scam is set to net your group at least $1.000.000 who said anything about $4000 If the developer has difficulty getting anon technology implemented, I will personally get it done! That's good for anybody that believes in the coin, so far it has been false promises, misinformation/lack of information with unrealistic bounties for work From this point on you can blame me if XLB fails because I am ready and willing to quarterback for this entire community. You wanted to be incharge, and have seized the moment, Congratulations! And to the people who orchestrated this sell off, I will not be seeking "revenge". I will keep my focus on big things, because you are small. Small people try to destroy, but great people create and build. I want to personally thank you because you just angered and motivated this entire community to want to become #1. I promise you within 60 days you will watch Libertycoin in awe as this community consistently make history while your shitcoin fades into obscurity!!! Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Soulmate on May 26, 2014, 09:06:03 PM this shitcoin launched with anon claims and cant deliver, look at that xc coin i wish i would have chosen that over this liberty shit. ive had enough im out of this coin. I won't lie I dumped everyone of my dirty filthy Libertycoins for XC. 5 minutes reading you can tell it's legit and has active development. Not a pump and dump like certain coins on this board. EDIT: What did XCcoin DEV delivered beside pdf files that are not of his own research and a coinmixer that TIPS already have for 2 months now? Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Teka on May 26, 2014, 09:14:07 PM this shitcoin launched with anon claims and cant deliver, look at that xc coin i wish i would have chosen that over this liberty shit. ive had enough im out of this coin. I won't lie I dumped everyone of my dirty filthy Libertycoins for XC. 5 minutes reading you can tell it's legit and has active development. Not a pump and dump like certain coins on this board. EDIT: What did XCcoin DEV delivered beside pdf files that are not of his own research and a coinmixer that TIPS already have for 2 months now? His identity that proves his experience unlike the XLB dev who has none. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Soulmate on May 26, 2014, 09:20:56 PM this shitcoin launched with anon claims and cant deliver, look at that xc coin i wish i would have chosen that over this liberty shit. ive had enough im out of this coin. I won't lie I dumped everyone of my dirty filthy Libertycoins for XC. 5 minutes reading you can tell it's legit and has active development. Not a pump and dump like certain coins on this board. EDIT: What did XCcoin DEV delivered beside pdf files that are not of his own research and a coinmixer that TIPS already have for 2 months now? His identity that proves his experience unlike the XLB dev who has none. You mean his bitcointalk.org username proves his identity and that he qualifies as a experienced coder? Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Teka on May 26, 2014, 09:21:39 PM this shitcoin launched with anon claims and cant deliver, look at that xc coin i wish i would have chosen that over this liberty shit. ive had enough im out of this coin. I won't lie I dumped everyone of my dirty filthy Libertycoins for XC. 5 minutes reading you can tell it's legit and has active development. Not a pump and dump like certain coins on this board. EDIT: What did XCcoin DEV delivered beside pdf files that are not of his own research and a coinmixer that TIPS already have for 2 months now? His identity that proves his experience unlike the XLB dev who has none. You mean his bitcointalk.org username proves his identity and that he qualifies as a experienced coder? No his actually identity and resume has been made public. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Soulmate on May 26, 2014, 09:24:22 PM this shitcoin launched with anon claims and cant deliver, look at that xc coin i wish i would have chosen that over this liberty shit. ive had enough im out of this coin. I won't lie I dumped everyone of my dirty filthy Libertycoins for XC. 5 minutes reading you can tell it's legit and has active development. Not a pump and dump like certain coins on this board. EDIT: What did XCcoin DEV delivered beside pdf files that are not of his own research and a coinmixer that TIPS already have for 2 months now? His identity that proves his experience unlike the XLB dev who has none. You mean his bitcointalk.org username proves his identity and that he qualifies as a experienced coder? No his actually identity and resume has been made public. Can't find it anywhere... Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: elviselvis101 on May 26, 2014, 09:26:06 PM 24 hash? Edit: If it's them thats the case, they paid me out. So I have to argue there. I do see however some were not paid out, according to them. I don't know. I see a lot of crap around on all coins. I have to look into all the full details. I have yet to find a pool that has not responded to me accordingly when something has gone wrong. 24 hash never paid out the 11k XLBs I mined there before I switched due to the non payouts. Emails to the operator including to the address he gave in his later post saying he would sort all the payouts were never replied to and I've yet to see any coins from 24 Hash. Someone dumped 300k of XLB on Mintpal 6 hours ago. https://i.imgur.com/FgLz7iH.jpg Something isn't right here... Was that 24 Hash cashing out? Same here, check the bad rep I posted at 24hash profile here. And why not go to his profile and do the same if you did not receive coins ? - same question to all that lost coins, writing in this tread. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: barabbas on May 26, 2014, 09:31:20 PM 24hash.com didn't payed, people behind it are thief, stoled all coins, this coin was a scam from the beginning. Have you audited the blockchain? Where all the payments not made go? If 24hash was a scam, how that proves that anyone in the dev team is involved? And that is quite a big "if" considering people is claiming that they got paid in numbers similar to those claiming the opposite. Finally, the world of altos is filled with proven scams, why do you feel the need to denounce this one not even using your real handle? You understand your credibility is more than suspect because of it. Is it The Black Hand? Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Teka on May 26, 2014, 09:31:28 PM this shitcoin launched with anon claims and cant deliver, look at that xc coin i wish i would have chosen that over this liberty shit. ive had enough im out of this coin. I won't lie I dumped everyone of my dirty filthy Libertycoins for XC. 5 minutes reading you can tell it's legit and has active development. Not a pump and dump like certain coins on this board. EDIT: What did XCcoin DEV delivered beside pdf files that are not of his own research and a coinmixer that TIPS already have for 2 months now? His identity that proves his experience unlike the XLB dev who has none. You mean his bitcointalk.org username proves his identity and that he qualifies as a experienced coder? No his actually identity and resume has been made public. Can't find it anywhere... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600706.msg6913817#msg6913817 Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: barabbas on May 26, 2014, 09:35:08 PM SELL YOU FOOLS, SELL!!! I'm buying all I can ;D LOL I'm loving this, props for this guy who had the idea to create the FUD. Thanks again my friend!!!!! Dump a bit more, I dont have the BTCs yet in the exchanges... these BTC confirmations take forever.... DUMP! I view it as an attempt trying to reassure people the coin is okay, glad to see the're getting their Bitcoin back! You can have your bag of copy paste coins. I see the XLB thread is just alight with people "delighted" to get "cheap" coins but still no information on the coin itself. False promises and pictures of guys dancing around, like I said their is only a 1% that will be winners. Glad to see your losing your bitcoin! That you morituri13? Really? Well, so far, you are quite right about the lack of innovation in Libertycoin. It is exactly like that one.... yeah mean, cannot think of the name right now.... what was it...? ah yes, the one with the gorgeous logo, Black coin. Exactly the same. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Quantumbud on May 26, 2014, 09:39:55 PM Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Iconicfraudster on May 26, 2014, 09:44:54 PM 24hash.com didn't payed, people behind it are thief, stoled all coins, this coin was a scam from the beginning. Have you audited the blockchain? Where all the payments not made go? If 24hash was a scam, how that proves that anyone in the dev team is involved? And that is quite a big "if" considering people is claiming that they got paid in numbers similar to those claiming the opposite. Finally, the world of altos is filled with proven scams, why do you feel the need to denounce this one not even using your real handle? You understand your credibility is more than suspect because of it. Is it The Black Hand? If they have nothing to hide, why did they delete all post in regards to it in the Official thread? Libertycoin originally stated only stupid post would be deleted but Iconic went delete crazy deleting anything that had an opinion that he/they did not agree with, including Real issues! Great way to lose original supports, it's like a kick in the teeth. And then there is Troiste, Iconics right hand man and probably one of the worst human beings on the planet. I can't understand how people trust that guy to run a million dollar market cap! One of the most unprofessional people I have ever met, Do you think offering escorts is a good way to promote Liberty to your family and friends on Liberty day? Not sure why you think I am the Black hand I have stated that I was just a little guy who got screwed out of my Liberty coin. That led me to researching and surprisingly most of it cannot be found in the official thread because it has been deleted. Lastly I have already received a ton of PM from XLB fan boys and brand new accounts, calling me every name under the sun. I am sure half of them are probably Troiste but it would be a great way to ruin a Sr. Account. You can also say that maybe its not true but if you ask yourself the questions at the bottom of my original post, they have never been answered only called FUD and moved on. That's why a few people at least dumped because they see it for what it is. Some XLB are calling Liberty Bitcoin 3.0 and selling this image when its a clone of Hackcoin. Now please ask yourself these questions: If the coin code is copy and paste, of badger/hack which is a copy paste of nova which is a copy paste of peercoin how will this coin succeed? Why is the press releases and paper wallets copy and paste? How can you claim it was a fair launch when it didn't even last 4 days? (Think bitcoin/litecoin/peercoin/darkcoin how long have they been mined) Why did they delete everybody's post who had coins stolen from the multi-pool? How is it legal to offer free escorts when it may be illegal in their jurisdiction? What are you using to implement anonymous technology? Who is doing it for a 2 btc bounty when other coins couldn't find anybody to do it for under 50 btc? Why does Iconicexpert have access to the dev account, since he is not a developer? (Most devs will simply let the community know who is the marketing direct, not give them access to their personal account) Why is there no white paper, is it just fedoras mixer and an encrypted block chain? what are the "unique properties" as you state that Liberty coin has unique properties? What new an exciting payment methods not covered by other payment systems does it offer since you make that claim? Why do you censor peoples liberty in the official thread? (Taking away liberty from libertycoin) Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: gatti on May 26, 2014, 09:48:31 PM shogun40 set up the multipool out of his own money and he was just an average member of the community; your theory is false
And we're getting word now that the pool is paying out, so again: false Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Iconicfraudster on May 26, 2014, 09:52:10 PM SELL YOU FOOLS, SELL!!! I'm buying all I can ;D LOL I'm loving this, props for this guy who had the idea to create the FUD. Thanks again my friend!!!!! Dump a bit more, I dont have the BTCs yet in the exchanges... these BTC confirmations take forever.... DUMP! I view it as an attempt trying to reassure people the coin is okay, glad to see the're getting their Bitcoin back! You can have your bag of copy paste coins. I see the XLB thread is just alight with people "delighted" to get "cheap" coins but still no information on the coin itself. False promises and pictures of guys dancing around, like I said their is only a 1% that will be winners. Glad to see your losing your bitcoin! That you morituri13? Really? Well, so far, you are quite right about the lack of innovation in Libertycoin. It is exactly like that one.... yeah mean, cannot think of the name right now.... what was it...? ah yes, the one with the gorgeous logo, Black coin. Exactly the same. Actually Blackcoin modified the Novacoin code where as Libertycoin simply changed the name in the Hackcoin code which was modified from the Novacoin code. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: traumschiff on May 26, 2014, 09:53:05 PM Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: gatti on May 26, 2014, 10:00:03 PM shogun40 set up the multipool out of his own money and he was just an average member of the community; your theory is false And we're getting word now that the pool is paying out, so again: false iconicfraudster, please address Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Iconicfraudster on May 26, 2014, 10:03:18 PM shogun40 set up the multipool out of his own money and he was just an average member of the community; your theory is false And we're getting word now that the pool is paying out, so again: false iconicfraudster, please address Sorry, I can only post so quick or I get an error. I think you are confusing the original forum Multipool that was recommended to users in the POW phase with the new multipool. My post referred to the first Multipool as multiple other users have also stated they didn't receive their coins. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: gatti on May 26, 2014, 10:07:51 PM shogun40 set up the multipool out of his own money and he was just an average member of the community; your theory is false And we're getting word now that the pool is paying out, so again: false iconicfraudster, please address Sorry, I can only post so quick or I get an error. I think you are confusing the original forum Multipool that was recommended to users in the POW phase with the new multipool. My post referred to the first Multipool as multiple other users have also stated they didn't receive their coins. I'm not confusing anything. The new multipool also happens to be the first multipool. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: barabbas on May 26, 2014, 10:11:57 PM 24hash.com didn't payed, people behind it are thief, stoled all coins, this coin was a scam from the beginning. Have you audited the blockchain? Where all the payments not made go? If 24hash was a scam, how that proves that anyone in the dev team is involved? And that is quite a big "if" considering people is claiming that they got paid in numbers similar to those claiming the opposite. Finally, the world of altos is filled with proven scams, why do you feel the need to denounce this one not even using your real handle? You understand your credibility is more than suspect because of it. Is it The Black Hand? If they have nothing to hide, why did they delete all post in regards to it in the Official thread? Libertycoin originally stated only stupid post would be deleted but Iconic went delete crazy deleting anything that had an opinion that he/they did not agree with, including Real issues! Great way to lose original supports, it's like a kick in the teeth. And then there is Troiste, Iconics right hand man and probably one of the worst human beings on the planet. I can't understand how people trust that guy to run a million dollar market cap! One of the most unprofessional people I have ever met, Do you think offering escorts is a good way to promote Liberty to your family and friends on Liberty day? Not sure why you think I am the Black hand I have stated that I was just a little guy who got screwed out of my Liberty coin. That led me to researching and surprisingly most of it cannot be found in the official thread because it has been deleted. Lastly I have already received a ton of PM from XLB fan boys and brand new accounts, calling me every name under the sun. I am sure half of them are probably Troiste but it would be a great way to ruin a Sr. Account. You can also say that maybe its not true but if you ask yourself the questions at the bottom of my original post, they have never been answered only called FUD and moved on. That's why a few people at least dumped because they see it for what it is. Some XLB are calling Liberty Bitcoin 3.0 and selling this image when its a clone of Hackcoin. Now please ask yourself these questions: If the coin code is copy and paste, of badger/hack which is a copy paste of nova which is a copy paste of peercoin how will this coin succeed? Why is the press releases and paper wallets copy and paste? How can you claim it was a fair launch when it didn't even last 4 days? (Think bitcoin/litecoin/peercoin/darkcoin how long have they been mined) Why did they delete everybody's post who had coins stolen from the multi-pool? How is it legal to offer free escorts when it may be illegal in their jurisdiction? What are you using to implement anonymous technology? Who is doing it for a 2 btc bounty when other coins couldn't find anybody to do it for under 50 btc? Why does Iconicexpert have access to the dev account, since he is not a developer? (Most devs will simply let the community know who is the marketing direct, not give them access to their personal account) Why is there no white paper, is it just fedoras mixer and an encrypted block chain? what are the "unique properties" as you state that Liberty coin has unique properties? What new an exciting payment methods not covered by other payment systems does it offer since you make that claim? Why do you censor peoples liberty in the official thread? (Taking away liberty from libertycoin) Just this once I will answer some of your questions NOT to the best of my ability, but enough to clear some air maybe. Just this one because I use my handle, the only one I have, while you are a sock puppet, just to make it clear. Not only the code is copy paste, like the wallet (or close enough, anyway) but it is PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE that it is. Nobody has lied about that from the get go. Specifically Iconic posted clearly the reason why he was joining, the reasons: The name -I doubt you have the capacity to value what's in a name, but a lot is-, and the enormous market opportunity it presented. Not the code. Not the innovations. Just the name, basically. Then he created a very nice logo. And then he made a few promises. It is wayh too soon to believe or disbelieve those promises. A lot of people do. Now, the most important thing is that you claim that, because you were scammed by 24 Hash, there was a conspiracy behind it. But you prove nothing of that short. That's absurd hearsay, or FUD as it were. If it is true and the devs were in cahoots with 24Hash, you will need to prove it, sorry. You don't know who the dev is, but most people with half a brain does. I know his handle, his deeds -and there are many, of all kinds- and also his real name, nationality and geographical location. I had to investigate quite heavily to come up with the same referred to you "don" of BC and it's Black Hand. I have found no evidence whatsoever, so far, of any organized group acting in cahoots with the dev of Libertycoin. Furthermore, the biggest wallet in XLB has just about 400k coins... yes you have charged that it has been spread in hundreds of wallets, that's hard to believe and relatively easy to demonstrate soon enough in the future if the community so decides . In any case, just conjecture on your part. All those questions have a single answer: Iconic Expert. He has taken the FULL responsibility for those things. No need to look anywhere else. If he doesn't deliver, his reputation will be ruined. Fair enough? As you and other reading this well know, I don't like the guy personally and find some of his ideas preposterous, dangerous and counter-productive. And I find Troiste probably the individual most lacking class under the stars, but, a) IE has a lot of ideas and some of them with a lot of merit... enough to propel BC to 95 and more than enough to have taken XLB to 20 in 10 days. Those are facts whether you like the guy or not. As for Troiste, by luck or whatever, he FOUND Libertycoin. To Caesar what is Caesar's. I deplore as much as anyone the hookers idea that I have termed "Soepkip pants of XLB" myself. What's true is true. End of that story. So, to sum it up, unless you prove the 24 hash scam had anything to do with the devs of XLB, I am going to call that what it is: Bullshit. ALL THE REST of your questions, have the same answer: Iconic Expert. For good, bad or in-between. Believe or do not believe, up to you. He IS Liberty coin. He has publicly assumed that responsibility. Now, keep the FUD if you like, but there's nothing tangible on your side of the net. Sorry but, like everyone else, you will need to wait to be able to colled shit. Otherwise, just a handle and an individual that everyone knows who he is and where he lives. I hope I have satisfactorily answered all your questions. Edit to add: The charge about only 3.5 days initial PoW mining, what do you expect? only 16.5 million coins. When they run out, they run out. It depends on the hashing power thrown at it, you should know that... Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Iconicfraudster on May 26, 2014, 10:15:38 PM shogun40 set up the multipool out of his own money and he was just an average member of the community; your theory is false And we're getting word now that the pool is paying out, so again: false iconicfraudster, please address Sorry, I can only post so quick or I get an error. I think you are confusing the original forum Multipool that was recommended to users in the POW phase with the new multipool. My post referred to the first Multipool as multiple other users have also stated they didn't receive their coins. I'm not confusing anything. The new multipool also happens to be the first multipool. No the multipool you are refering to is http://xlb.multipoolmining.com/ The official multipool used for POW mining was xlb.24hash.com Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: gatti on May 26, 2014, 10:19:53 PM shogun40 set up the multipool out of his own money and he was just an average member of the community; your theory is false And we're getting word now that the pool is paying out, so again: false iconicfraudster, please address Sorry, I can only post so quick or I get an error. I think you are confusing the original forum Multipool that was recommended to users in the POW phase with the new multipool. My post referred to the first Multipool as multiple other users have also stated they didn't receive their coins. I'm not confusing anything. The new multipool also happens to be the first multipool. No the multipool you are refering to is http://xlb.multipoolmining.com/ The official multipool used for POW mining was xlb.24hash.com Mining XLB during the POW phase is not a multipool. Multipools mine other coins and pay out in XLB. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Soulmate on May 26, 2014, 10:23:41 PM this shitcoin launched with anon claims and cant deliver, look at that xc coin i wish i would have chosen that over this liberty shit. ive had enough im out of this coin. I won't lie I dumped everyone of my dirty filthy Libertycoins for XC. 5 minutes reading you can tell it's legit and has active development. Not a pump and dump like certain coins on this board. EDIT: What did XCcoin DEV delivered beside pdf files that are not of his own research and a coinmixer that TIPS already have for 2 months now? His identity that proves his experience unlike the XLB dev who has none. You mean his bitcointalk.org username proves his identity and that he qualifies as a experienced coder? No his actually identity and resume has been made public. Can't find it anywhere... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600706.msg6913817#msg6913817 Are you kidding me? I am going to stop arguing for reduction of coins or a largely extended PoW period. I feel that very solid arguments are on the table and the dev is capable of making his own decisions, of which I support no matter what. I mean, seriously. actsecure is Dan Metcalf -- hes a legendary C programmer, probably better than every dev of every alt coin combined. That being said, while he may be an expert in coding. I am a financial analyst with a degree in finance & economics. He may know how to create a coin (and probably one better than anyone else), but I know how to read markets and perform coin valuations. This is the proof you have that actsecure is identified and that he is a expert coder? https://twitter.com/metcalfwriter He did not mentioned any X11coin on his twitter and that this kind of statements are just bad for the actual dev behind X11coin but who cares aslong people are making money, right? Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: XbladeX on May 26, 2014, 10:23:52 PM ... Does this sound familiar? 1. Start spreading FUD to make people doubt the dev. ... 2. Start posting information about other coins in the thread to make people think there is a better option. ... 3. Post some major news about the coin being a scam and the dev is about to dump. ... 4. Dump enough coins to make others think the dev is dumping to cause a chain reaction. ... 5. Use multiple account and post they are selling. ... Does this sound familiar? lol i never saw better sumarry of your action in Blackcoin and whole shitstorm in may. 1. Start spreading FUD to make people doubt the dev. - You started attacked openly whole BC dev team from Soepkip to rat4... eg. Becouse rat4 hellped Cinni... (in reality he made 2 code lines...) 2. Start posting information about other coins in the thread to make people think there is a better option. In your own BC thread you 1st bashed BC then actively promoted XBL... 3. Post some major news about the coin being a scam and the dev is about to dump. Ohw yea your whole story about magic market manipulators (0 true evidence just "some PMs" rummors ) you attacked whole community for about 10days... 4. Dump enough coins to make others think the dev is dumping to cause a chain reaction. Even on twiter you posted that you dumped BC for 10 days in main thread you climed to have 2m to dump and dumping... 5. Use multiple account and post they are selling. Here i don't have 100% prove. But when points 1-4 suits to your action IconicExpert i believe that point 5 will be true too. You just proved yourself that you act that way.(your market manipulator suits to you almost perfect) I personally think that you don't have 90% of XBL supply but once you sell your shares bagholders will be fucked up and you will play same scenario like in BC at the end then swith to another pump coin. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: HardwarePal on May 26, 2014, 10:27:49 PM He doesnt have 90% of the market....
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: pennyw1se on May 26, 2014, 10:50:25 PM this shitcoin launched with anon claims and cant deliver, look at that xc coin i wish i would have chosen that over this liberty shit. ive had enough im out of this coin. I won't lie I dumped everyone of my dirty filthy Libertycoins for XC. 5 minutes reading you can tell it's legit and has active development. Not a pump and dump like certain coins on this board. EDIT: What did XCcoin DEV delivered beside pdf files that are not of his own research and a coinmixer that TIPS already have for 2 months now? His identity that proves his experience unlike the XLB dev who has none. You mean his bitcointalk.org username proves his identity and that he qualifies as a experienced coder? No his actually identity and resume has been made public. Can't find it anywhere... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600706.msg6913817#msg6913817 Are you kidding me? I am going to stop arguing for reduction of coins or a largely extended PoW period. I feel that very solid arguments are on the table and the dev is capable of making his own decisions, of which I support no matter what. I mean, seriously. actsecure is Dan Metcalf -- hes a legendary C programmer, probably better than every dev of every alt coin combined. That being said, while he may be an expert in coding. I am a financial analyst with a degree in finance & economics. He may know how to create a coin (and probably one better than anyone else), but I know how to read markets and perform coin valuations. This is the proof you have that actsecure is identified and that he is a expert coder? https://twitter.com/metcalfwriter He did not mentioned any X11coin on his twitter and that this kind of statements are just bad for the actual dev behind X11coin but who cares aslong people are making money, right? Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Soulmate on May 26, 2014, 11:08:15 PM this shitcoin launched with anon claims and cant deliver, look at that xc coin i wish i would have chosen that over this liberty shit. ive had enough im out of this coin. I won't lie I dumped everyone of my dirty filthy Libertycoins for XC. 5 minutes reading you can tell it's legit and has active development. Not a pump and dump like certain coins on this board. EDIT: What did XCcoin DEV delivered beside pdf files that are not of his own research and a coinmixer that TIPS already have for 2 months now? His identity that proves his experience unlike the XLB dev who has none. You mean his bitcointalk.org username proves his identity and that he qualifies as a experienced coder? No his actually identity and resume has been made public. Can't find it anywhere... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600706.msg6913817#msg6913817 Are you kidding me? I am going to stop arguing for reduction of coins or a largely extended PoW period. I feel that very solid arguments are on the table and the dev is capable of making his own decisions, of which I support no matter what. I mean, seriously. actsecure is Dan Metcalf -- hes a legendary C programmer, probably better than every dev of every alt coin combined. That being said, while he may be an expert in coding. I am a financial analyst with a degree in finance & economics. He may know how to create a coin (and probably one better than anyone else), but I know how to read markets and perform coin valuations. This is the proof you have that actsecure is identified and that he is a expert coder? https://twitter.com/metcalfwriter He did not mentioned any X11coin on his twitter and that this kind of statements are just bad for the actual dev behind X11coin but who cares aslong people are making money, right? You just created a new account to reply to this post? And what was my nice try? What you just linked is just as proof that artsecure identity is known as me being Superman! I don't even care if the coin is going to be another pump and dump because all of them are in end of the day but don't try to fool people in proping up X11coin price with false information. And if it isn't false prove it! Anyways people don't need to know developers name to invest on a coin. Bitcoin did not get pumped to 1200 dollars because of satoshi nakamoto's real identity but for his work so no need for lies in cryptocurrency market. Just work for it to be successful. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Iconicfraudster on May 26, 2014, 11:09:08 PM 24hash.com didn't payed, people behind it are thief, stoled all coins, this coin was a scam from the beginning. Have you audited the blockchain? Where all the payments not made go? If 24hash was a scam, how that proves that anyone in the dev team is involved? And that is quite a big "if" considering people is claiming that they got paid in numbers similar to those claiming the opposite. Finally, the world of altos is filled with proven scams, why do you feel the need to denounce this one not even using your real handle? You understand your credibility is more than suspect because of it. Is it The Black Hand? If they have nothing to hide, why did they delete all post in regards to it in the Official thread? Libertycoin originally stated only stupid post would be deleted but Iconic went delete crazy deleting anything that had an opinion that he/they did not agree with, including Real issues! Great way to lose original supports, it's like a kick in the teeth. And then there is Troiste, Iconics right hand man and probably one of the worst human beings on the planet. I can't understand how people trust that guy to run a million dollar market cap! One of the most unprofessional people I have ever met, Do you think offering escorts is a good way to promote Liberty to your family and friends on Liberty day? Not sure why you think I am the Black hand I have stated that I was just a little guy who got screwed out of my Liberty coin. That led me to researching and surprisingly most of it cannot be found in the official thread because it has been deleted. Lastly I have already received a ton of PM from XLB fan boys and brand new accounts, calling me every name under the sun. I am sure half of them are probably Troiste but it would be a great way to ruin a Sr. Account. You can also say that maybe its not true but if you ask yourself the questions at the bottom of my original post, they have never been answered only called FUD and moved on. That's why a few people at least dumped because they see it for what it is. Some XLB are calling Liberty Bitcoin 3.0 and selling this image when its a clone of Hackcoin. Now please ask yourself these questions: If the coin code is copy and paste, of badger/hack which is a copy paste of nova which is a copy paste of peercoin how will this coin succeed? Why is the press releases and paper wallets copy and paste? How can you claim it was a fair launch when it didn't even last 4 days? (Think bitcoin/litecoin/peercoin/darkcoin how long have they been mined) Why did they delete everybody's post who had coins stolen from the multi-pool? How is it legal to offer free escorts when it may be illegal in their jurisdiction? What are you using to implement anonymous technology? Who is doing it for a 2 btc bounty when other coins couldn't find anybody to do it for under 50 btc? Why does Iconicexpert have access to the dev account, since he is not a developer? (Most devs will simply let the community know who is the marketing direct, not give them access to their personal account) Why is there no white paper, is it just fedoras mixer and an encrypted block chain? what are the "unique properties" as you state that Liberty coin has unique properties? What new an exciting payment methods not covered by other payment systems does it offer since you make that claim? Why do you censor peoples liberty in the official thread? (Taking away liberty from libertycoin) Just this once I will answer some of your questions NOT to the best of my ability, but enough to clear some air maybe. Just this one because I use my handle, the only one I have, while you are a sock puppet, just to make it clear. Alright, I will reply to some of your points once since you state you were buying as people sold, but now you can't say that nobody informed you! Not only the code is copy paste, like the wallet (or close enough, anyway) but it is PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE that it is. Nobody has lied about that from the get go. Specifically Iconic posted clearly the reason why he was joining, the reasons: The name -I doubt you have the capacity to value what's in a name, but a lot is-, and the enormous market opportunity it presented. Not the code. Not the innovations. Just the name, basically. Then he created a very nice logo. And then he made a few promises. It is wayh too soon to believe or disbelieve those promises. A lot of people do. If it is Public Knowledge how come in the promo material they are using for marketing states Liberty coin as having unique properties and having exciting payment methods not covered by other payment systems. Its false advertising and does that equal Bitcoin 3.0 because they changed the name of hackcoin? I know the value of a name, but just because I call my Nissan a Bentley it doesn't change the fact that its still a Nissan. He also made statements about goals that were to be accomplished and they were time sensitive and deadlines were not met; Making him a liar. Now, the most important thing is that you claim that, because you were scammed by 24 Hash, there was a conspiracy behind it. But you prove nothing of that short. That's absurd hearsay, or FUD as it were. If it is true and the devs were in cahoots with 24Hash, you will need to prove it, sorry. Iconic has a history of making the same claims without as much circumstantial evidence and yet you seem to believe the guy has god like powers when it comes to marketing. You don't know who the dev is, but most people with half a brain does. I know his handle, his deeds -and there are many, of all kinds- and also his real name, nationality and geographical location. I had to investigate quite heavily to come up with the same referred to you "don" of BC and it's Black Hand. I have found no evidence whatsoever, so far, of any organized group acting in cahoots with the dev of Libertycoin. Furthermore, the biggest wallet in XLB has just about 400k coins... yes you have charged that it has been spread in hundreds of wallets, that's hard to believe and relatively easy to demonstrate soon enough in the future if the community so decides . In any case, just conjecture on your part. How would you know what I know? Also you cannot see the amount of coins that people keep stashed on exchanges. It would surprise you! You also know that Iconic expert refuses to share even one of his many wallet balance as he doesn't want anybody in the community to see if he is dumping or not. All those questions have a single answer: Iconic Expert. He has taken the FULL responsibility for those things. No need to look anywhere else. If he doesn't deliver, his reputation will be ruined. Fair enough? As you and other reading this well know, I don't like the guy personally and find some of his ideas preposterous, dangerous and counter-productive. And I find Troiste probably the individual most lacking class under the stars, but, a) IE has a lot of ideas and some of them with a lot of merit... enough to propel BC to 95 and more than enough to have taken XLB to 20 in 10 days. Those are facts whether you like the guy or not. As for Troiste, by luck or whatever, he FOUND Libertycoin. To Caesar what is Caesar's. I deplore as much as anyone the hookers idea that I have termed "Soepkip pants of XLB" myself. What's true is true. End of that story. I can't believe you actually give the guy the entire credit for the blackcoin run to 95, they had a massive community a talented dev and a heap of other people working on it as well, Also almost every single coin gets pumped at one time or another so correlation isn't always causation. So, to sum it up, unless you prove the 24 hash scam had anything to do with the devs of XLB, I am going to call that what it is: Bullshit. ALL THE REST of your questions, have the same answer: Iconic Expert. For good, bad or in-between. Believe or do not believe, up to you. He IS Liberty coin. He has publicly assumed that responsibility. Your answer sounds like Those questions are to hard/bad for Libertycoin so I am just going to say IE Now, keep the FUD if you like, but there's nothing tangible on your side of the net. Sorry but, like everyone else, you will need to wait to be able to colled shit. Otherwise, just a handle and an individual that everyone knows who he is and where he lives. I hope I have satisfactorily answered all your questions. Well your answer wasn't a real answer so no Edit to add: The charge about only 3.5 days initial PoW mining, what do you expect? only 16.5 million coins. When they run out, they run out. It depends on the hashing power thrown at it, you should know that... Hahaha what a comedian, Its called block reward and block time; you cant think of one coin that has been going since 09 hmmm only 12.9 million coins mined so far. Its an instant mine, designed so that if a coin takes off a few people get rich and is the bread and butter of shit pump and dump clone coins Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Teka on May 26, 2014, 11:12:42 PM this shitcoin launched with anon claims and cant deliver, look at that xc coin i wish i would have chosen that over this liberty shit. ive had enough im out of this coin. I won't lie I dumped everyone of my dirty filthy Libertycoins for XC. 5 minutes reading you can tell it's legit and has active development. Not a pump and dump like certain coins on this board. EDIT: What did XCcoin DEV delivered beside pdf files that are not of his own research and a coinmixer that TIPS already have for 2 months now? His identity that proves his experience unlike the XLB dev who has none. You mean his bitcointalk.org username proves his identity and that he qualifies as a experienced coder? No his actually identity and resume has been made public. Can't find it anywhere... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600706.msg6913817#msg6913817 Are you kidding me? I am going to stop arguing for reduction of coins or a largely extended PoW period. I feel that very solid arguments are on the table and the dev is capable of making his own decisions, of which I support no matter what. I mean, seriously. actsecure is Dan Metcalf -- hes a legendary C programmer, probably better than every dev of every alt coin combined. That being said, while he may be an expert in coding. I am a financial analyst with a degree in finance & economics. He may know how to create a coin (and probably one better than anyone else), but I know how to read markets and perform coin valuations. This is the proof you have that actsecure is identified and that he is a expert coder? https://twitter.com/metcalfwriter He did not mentioned any X11coin on his twitter and that this kind of statements are just bad for the actual dev behind X11coin but who cares aslong people are making money, right? You just created a new account to reply to this post? And what was my nice try? What you just linked is just as proof that artsecure identity is known as me being Superman! I don't even care if the coin is going to be another pump and dump because all of them are in end of the day but don't try to fool people in proping up X11coin price with false information. And if it isn't false prove it! Anyways people don't need to know developers name to invest on a coin. Bitcoin did not get pumped to 1200 dollars because of satoshi nakamoto's real identity but for his work so no need for lies in cryptocurrency market. Just work for it to be successful. That is the true identity , there you go I said it a communiy member will real posts and quite a bit of trust. You can tell by his reaction in the thread. Good luck to all involved in liberty coin, I have some but wont be investing more. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: barabbas on May 26, 2014, 11:32:33 PM 24hash.com didn't payed, people behind it are thief, stoled all coins, this coin was a scam from the beginning. Have you audited the blockchain? Where all the payments not made go? If 24hash was a scam, how that proves that anyone in the dev team is involved? And that is quite a big "if" considering people is claiming that they got paid in numbers similar to those claiming the opposite. Finally, the world of altos is filled with proven scams, why do you feel the need to denounce this one not even using your real handle? You understand your credibility is more than suspect because of it. Is it The Black Hand? If they have nothing to hide, why did they delete all post in regards to it in the Official thread? Libertycoin originally stated only stupid post would be deleted but Iconic went delete crazy deleting anything that had an opinion that he/they did not agree with, including Real issues! Great way to lose original supports, it's like a kick in the teeth. And then there is Troiste, Iconics right hand man and probably one of the worst human beings on the planet. I can't understand how people trust that guy to run a million dollar market cap! One of the most unprofessional people I have ever met, Do you think offering escorts is a good way to promote Liberty to your family and friends on Liberty day? Not sure why you think I am the Black hand I have stated that I was just a little guy who got screwed out of my Liberty coin. That led me to researching and surprisingly most of it cannot be found in the official thread because it has been deleted. Lastly I have already received a ton of PM from XLB fan boys and brand new accounts, calling me every name under the sun. I am sure half of them are probably Troiste but it would be a great way to ruin a Sr. Account. You can also say that maybe its not true but if you ask yourself the questions at the bottom of my original post, they have never been answered only called FUD and moved on. That's why a few people at least dumped because they see it for what it is. Some XLB are calling Liberty Bitcoin 3.0 and selling this image when its a clone of Hackcoin. Now please ask yourself these questions: If the coin code is copy and paste, of badger/hack which is a copy paste of nova which is a copy paste of peercoin how will this coin succeed? Why is the press releases and paper wallets copy and paste? How can you claim it was a fair launch when it didn't even last 4 days? (Think bitcoin/litecoin/peercoin/darkcoin how long have they been mined) Why did they delete everybody's post who had coins stolen from the multi-pool? How is it legal to offer free escorts when it may be illegal in their jurisdiction? What are you using to implement anonymous technology? Who is doing it for a 2 btc bounty when other coins couldn't find anybody to do it for under 50 btc? Why does Iconicexpert have access to the dev account, since he is not a developer? (Most devs will simply let the community know who is the marketing direct, not give them access to their personal account) Why is there no white paper, is it just fedoras mixer and an encrypted block chain? what are the "unique properties" as you state that Liberty coin has unique properties? What new an exciting payment methods not covered by other payment systems does it offer since you make that claim? Why do you censor peoples liberty in the official thread? (Taking away liberty from libertycoin) Just this once I will answer some of your questions NOT to the best of my ability, but enough to clear some air maybe. Just this one because I use my handle, the only one I have, while you are a sock puppet, just to make it clear. Alright, I will reply to some of your points once since you state you were buying as people sold, but now you can't say that nobody informed you! Not only the code is copy paste, like the wallet (or close enough, anyway) but it is PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE that it is. Nobody has lied about that from the get go. Specifically Iconic posted clearly the reason why he was joining, the reasons: The name -I doubt you have the capacity to value what's in a name, but a lot is-, and the enormous market opportunity it presented. Not the code. Not the innovations. Just the name, basically. Then he created a very nice logo. And then he made a few promises. It is wayh too soon to believe or disbelieve those promises. A lot of people do. If it is Public Knowledge how come in the promo material they are using for marketing states Liberty coin as having unique properties and having exciting payment methods not covered by other payment systems. Its false advertising and does that equal Bitcoin 3.0 because they changed the name of hackcoin? I know the value of a name, but just because I call my Nissan a Bentley it doesn't change the fact that its still a Nissan. He also made statements about goals that were to be accomplished and they were time sensitive and deadlines were not met; Making him a liar. Actually what it makes is you very poor at establishing similarities. A car brand is associated with performance and a prestige that comes from many years and accomplishments... nothing to do with cryptos at all. Besides, the deadlines are invented by you, never existed and no promises were made. IF they would have been, it would be the dev failing those deadlines, not IE. But I'll give you a deadline close enough: Tomorrow, in the US, but worldwide the event, two important and promised (by IE) innovative features, are being released... in keeping with the promises of innovation and singularity. Of course you will find a way to try to taint those too. Good luck with that! Now, the most important thing is that you claim that, because you were scammed by 24 Hash, there was a conspiracy behind it. But you prove nothing of that short. That's absurd hearsay, or FUD as it were. If it is true and the devs were in cahoots with 24Hash, you will need to prove it, sorry. Iconic has a history of making the same claims without as much circumstantial evidence and yet you seem to believe the guy has god like powers when it comes to marketing. Because the marketing wisdom of IE has been corroborated and accepted by everyone, even his most redundant enemies and people that dislike, like me, some of his methods. No one questions his marketing abilities, no one. You don't know who the dev is, but most people with half a brain does. I know his handle, his deeds -and there are many, of all kinds- and also his real name, nationality and geographical location. I had to investigate quite heavily to come up with the same referred to you "don" of BC and it's Black Hand. I have found no evidence whatsoever, so far, of any organized group acting in cahoots with the dev of Libertycoin. Furthermore, the biggest wallet in XLB has just about 400k coins... yes you have charged that it has been spread in hundreds of wallets, that's hard to believe and relatively easy to demonstrate soon enough in the future if the community so decides . In any case, just conjecture on your part. How would you know what I know? Also you cannot see the amount of coins that people keep stashed on exchanges. It would surprise you! You also know that Iconic expert refuses to share even one of his many wallet balance as he doesn't want anybody in the community to see if he is dumping or not. You posted yourself that no one knows who the dev is ???? No it would not surprise me to know the amount of coins stashed at exchanges because, well, there's the blockchain, you see. You can see what is where. And there's no more than 450k stashed on ANY wallet, including those at the exchanges. All those questions have a single answer: Iconic Expert. He has taken the FULL responsibility for those things. No need to look anywhere else. If he doesn't deliver, his reputation will be ruined. Fair enough? As you and other reading this well know, I don't like the guy personally and find some of his ideas preposterous, dangerous and counter-productive. And I find Troiste probably the individual most lacking class under the stars, but, a) IE has a lot of ideas and some of them with a lot of merit... enough to propel BC to 95 and more than enough to have taken XLB to 20 in 10 days. Those are facts whether you like the guy or not. As for Troiste, by luck or whatever, he FOUND Libertycoin. To Caesar what is Caesar's. I deplore as much as anyone the hookers idea that I have termed "Soepkip pants of XLB" myself. What's true is true. End of that story. I can't believe you actually give the guy the entire credit for the blackcoin run to 95, they had a massive community a talented dev and a heap of other people working on it as well, Also almost every single coin gets pumped at one time or another so correlation isn't always causation. So, to sum it up, unless you prove the 24 hash scam had anything to do with the devs of XLB, I am going to call that what it is: Bullshit. ALL THE REST of your questions, have the same answer: Iconic Expert. For good, bad or in-between. Believe or do not believe, up to you. He IS Liberty coin. He has publicly assumed that responsibility. Your answer sounds like Those questions are to hard/bad for Libertycoin so I am just going to say IE You mistake "hard" with "stupid"... in keeping with your shortcomings about establishing similarities. It's meant to read that if IE doesn't deliver on those things, like he is delivering in a few hours, it will be his considerable prestige on the line. But make no mistake about it -read them aloud for reassurance- they are stupid, very stupid considerations/questions. Now, keep the FUD if you like, but there's nothing tangible on your side of the net. Sorry but, like everyone else, you will need to wait to be able to colled shit. Otherwise, just a handle and an individual that everyone knows who he is and where he lives. I hope I have satisfactorily answered all your questions. Well your answer wasn't a real answer so no Edit to add: The charge about only 3.5 days initial PoW mining, what do you expect? only 16.5 million coins. When they run out, they run out. It depends on the hashing power thrown at it, you should know that... Hahaha what a comedian, Its called block reward and block time; you cant think of one coin that has been going since 09 hmmm only 12.9 million coins mined so far. Its an instant mine, designed so that if a coin takes off a few people get rich and is the bread and butter of shit pump and dump clone coins Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: ddeaNewtOn on May 27, 2014, 01:33:59 AM He doesnt have 90% of the market.... IconicExpert is too poor to have 90% of the market. I agree with HardwarePal here Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: ddeaNewtOn on May 27, 2014, 01:38:00 AM 24hash.com didn't payed, people behind it are thief, stoled all coins, this coin was a scam from the beginning. Have you audited the blockchain? Where all the payments not made go? If 24hash was a scam, how that proves that anyone in the dev team is involved? And that is quite a big "if" considering people is claiming that they got paid in numbers similar to those claiming the opposite. Finally, the world of altos is filled with proven scams, why do you feel the need to denounce this one not even using your real handle? You understand your credibility is more than suspect because of it. Is it The Black Hand? If they have nothing to hide, why did they delete all post in regards to it in the Official thread? Libertycoin originally stated only stupid post would be deleted but Iconic went delete crazy deleting anything that had an opinion that he/they did not agree with, including Real issues! Great way to lose original supports, it's like a kick in the teeth. And then there is Troiste, Iconics right hand man and probably one of the worst human beings on the planet. I can't understand how people trust that guy to run a million dollar market cap! One of the most unprofessional people I have ever met, Do you think offering escorts is a good way to promote Liberty to your family and friends on Liberty day? Not sure why you think I am the Black hand I have stated that I was just a little guy who got screwed out of my Liberty coin. That led me to researching and surprisingly most of it cannot be found in the official thread because it has been deleted. Lastly I have already received a ton of PM from XLB fan boys and brand new accounts, calling me every name under the sun. I am sure half of them are probably Troiste but it would be a great way to ruin a Sr. Account. You can also say that maybe its not true but if you ask yourself the questions at the bottom of my original post, they have never been answered only called FUD and moved on. That's why a few people at least dumped because they see it for what it is. Some XLB are calling Liberty Bitcoin 3.0 and selling this image when its a clone of Hackcoin. Now please ask yourself these questions: If the coin code is copy and paste, of badger/hack which is a copy paste of nova which is a copy paste of peercoin how will this coin succeed? Why is the press releases and paper wallets copy and paste? How can you claim it was a fair launch when it didn't even last 4 days? (Think bitcoin/litecoin/peercoin/darkcoin how long have they been mined) Why did they delete everybody's post who had coins stolen from the multi-pool? How is it legal to offer free escorts when it may be illegal in their jurisdiction? What are you using to implement anonymous technology? Who is doing it for a 2 btc bounty when other coins couldn't find anybody to do it for under 50 btc? Why does Iconicexpert have access to the dev account, since he is not a developer? (Most devs will simply let the community know who is the marketing direct, not give them access to their personal account) Why is there no white paper, is it just fedoras mixer and an encrypted block chain? what are the "unique properties" as you state that Liberty coin has unique properties? What new an exciting payment methods not covered by other payment systems does it offer since you make that claim? Why do you censor peoples liberty in the official thread? (Taking away liberty from libertycoin) Just this once I will answer some of your questions NOT to the best of my ability, but enough to clear some air maybe. Just this one because I use my handle, the only one I have, while you are a sock puppet, just to make it clear. Alright, I will reply to some of your points once since you state you were buying as people sold, but now you can't say that nobody informed you! Not only the code is copy paste, like the wallet (or close enough, anyway) but it is PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE that it is. Nobody has lied about that from the get go. Specifically Iconic posted clearly the reason why he was joining, the reasons: The name -I doubt you have the capacity to value what's in a name, but a lot is-, and the enormous market opportunity it presented. Not the code. Not the innovations. Just the name, basically. Then he created a very nice logo. And then he made a few promises. It is wayh too soon to believe or disbelieve those promises. A lot of people do. If it is Public Knowledge how come in the promo material they are using for marketing states Liberty coin as having unique properties and having exciting payment methods not covered by other payment systems. Its false advertising and does that equal Bitcoin 3.0 because they changed the name of hackcoin? I know the value of a name, but just because I call my Nissan a Bentley it doesn't change the fact that its still a Nissan. He also made statements about goals that were to be accomplished and they were time sensitive and deadlines were not met; Making him a liar. Actually what it makes is you very poor at establishing similarities. A car brand is associated with performance and a prestige that comes from many years and accomplishments... nothing to do with cryptos at all. Besides, the deadlines are invented by you, never existed and no promises were made. IF they would have been, it would be the dev failing those deadlines, not IE. But I'll give you a deadline close enough: Tomorrow, in the US, but worldwide the event, two important and promised (by IE) innovative features, are being released... in keeping with the promises of innovation and singularity. Of course you will find a way to try to taint those too. Good luck with that! Now, the most important thing is that you claim that, because you were scammed by 24 Hash, there was a conspiracy behind it. But you prove nothing of that short. That's absurd hearsay, or FUD as it were. If it is true and the devs were in cahoots with 24Hash, you will need to prove it, sorry. Iconic has a history of making the same claims without as much circumstantial evidence and yet you seem to believe the guy has god like powers when it comes to marketing. Because the marketing wisdom of IE has been corroborated and accepted by everyone, even his most redundant enemies and people that dislike, like me, some of his methods. No one questions his marketing abilities, no one. You don't know who the dev is, but most people with half a brain does. I know his handle, his deeds -and there are many, of all kinds- and also his real name, nationality and geographical location. I had to investigate quite heavily to come up with the same referred to you "don" of BC and it's Black Hand. I have found no evidence whatsoever, so far, of any organized group acting in cahoots with the dev of Libertycoin. Furthermore, the biggest wallet in XLB has just about 400k coins... yes you have charged that it has been spread in hundreds of wallets, that's hard to believe and relatively easy to demonstrate soon enough in the future if the community so decides . In any case, just conjecture on your part. How would you know what I know? Also you cannot see the amount of coins that people keep stashed on exchanges. It would surprise you! You also know that Iconic expert refuses to share even one of his many wallet balance as he doesn't want anybody in the community to see if he is dumping or not. You posted yourself that no one knows who the dev is ???? No it would not surprise me to know the amount of coins stashed at exchanges because, well, there's the blockchain, you see. You can see what is where. And there's no more than 450k stashed on ANY wallet, including those at the exchanges. All those questions have a single answer: Iconic Expert. He has taken the FULL responsibility for those things. No need to look anywhere else. If he doesn't deliver, his reputation will be ruined. Fair enough? As you and other reading this well know, I don't like the guy personally and find some of his ideas preposterous, dangerous and counter-productive. And I find Troiste probably the individual most lacking class under the stars, but, a) IE has a lot of ideas and some of them with a lot of merit... enough to propel BC to 95 and more than enough to have taken XLB to 20 in 10 days. Those are facts whether you like the guy or not. As for Troiste, by luck or whatever, he FOUND Libertycoin. To Caesar what is Caesar's. I deplore as much as anyone the hookers idea that I have termed "Soepkip pants of XLB" myself. What's true is true. End of that story. I can't believe you actually give the guy the entire credit for the blackcoin run to 95, they had a massive community a talented dev and a heap of other people working on it as well, Also almost every single coin gets pumped at one time or another so correlation isn't always causation. So, to sum it up, unless you prove the 24 hash scam had anything to do with the devs of XLB, I am going to call that what it is: Bullshit. ALL THE REST of your questions, have the same answer: Iconic Expert. For good, bad or in-between. Believe or do not believe, up to you. He IS Liberty coin. He has publicly assumed that responsibility. Your answer sounds like Those questions are to hard/bad for Libertycoin so I am just going to say IE You mistake "hard" with "stupid"... in keeping with your shortcomings about establishing similarities. It's meant to read that if IE doesn't deliver on those things, like he is delivering in a few hours, it will be his considerable prestige on the line. But make no mistake about it -read them aloud for reassurance- they are stupid, very stupid considerations/questions. Now, keep the FUD if you like, but there's nothing tangible on your side of the net. Sorry but, like everyone else, you will need to wait to be able to colled shit. Otherwise, just a handle and an individual that everyone knows who he is and where he lives. I hope I have satisfactorily answered all your questions. Well your answer wasn't a real answer so no Edit to add: The charge about only 3.5 days initial PoW mining, what do you expect? only 16.5 million coins. When they run out, they run out. It depends on the hashing power thrown at it, you should know that... Hahaha what a comedian, Its called block reward and block time; you cant think of one coin that has been going since 09 hmmm only 12.9 million coins mined so far. Its an instant mine, designed so that if a coin takes off a few people get rich and is the bread and butter of shit pump and dump clone coins Are we assuming IE is smart here? Just saying, any expert trader/manipulator do not put their coins in one wallet, even in an exchange. that would be uber stupid. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: barabbas on May 27, 2014, 01:51:27 AM 24hash.com didn't payed, people behind it are thief, stoled all coins, this coin was a scam from the beginning. Have you audited the blockchain? Where all the payments not made go? If 24hash was a scam, how that proves that anyone in the dev team is involved? And that is quite a big "if" considering people is claiming that they got paid in numbers similar to those claiming the opposite. Finally, the world of altos is filled with proven scams, why do you feel the need to denounce this one not even using your real handle? You understand your credibility is more than suspect because of it. Is it The Black Hand? If they have nothing to hide, why did they delete all post in regards to it in the Official thread? Libertycoin originally stated only stupid post would be deleted but Iconic went delete crazy deleting anything that had an opinion that he/they did not agree with, including Real issues! Great way to lose original supports, it's like a kick in the teeth. And then there is Troiste, Iconics right hand man and probably one of the worst human beings on the planet. I can't understand how people trust that guy to run a million dollar market cap! One of the most unprofessional people I have ever met, Do you think offering escorts is a good way to promote Liberty to your family and friends on Liberty day? Not sure why you think I am the Black hand I have stated that I was just a little guy who got screwed out of my Liberty coin. That led me to researching and surprisingly most of it cannot be found in the official thread because it has been deleted. Lastly I have already received a ton of PM from XLB fan boys and brand new accounts, calling me every name under the sun. I am sure half of them are probably Troiste but it would be a great way to ruin a Sr. Account. You can also say that maybe its not true but if you ask yourself the questions at the bottom of my original post, they have never been answered only called FUD and moved on. That's why a few people at least dumped because they see it for what it is. Some XLB are calling Liberty Bitcoin 3.0 and selling this image when its a clone of Hackcoin. Now please ask yourself these questions: If the coin code is copy and paste, of badger/hack which is a copy paste of nova which is a copy paste of peercoin how will this coin succeed? Why is the press releases and paper wallets copy and paste? How can you claim it was a fair launch when it didn't even last 4 days? (Think bitcoin/litecoin/peercoin/darkcoin how long have they been mined) Why did they delete everybody's post who had coins stolen from the multi-pool? How is it legal to offer free escorts when it may be illegal in their jurisdiction? What are you using to implement anonymous technology? Who is doing it for a 2 btc bounty when other coins couldn't find anybody to do it for under 50 btc? Why does Iconicexpert have access to the dev account, since he is not a developer? (Most devs will simply let the community know who is the marketing direct, not give them access to their personal account) Why is there no white paper, is it just fedoras mixer and an encrypted block chain? what are the "unique properties" as you state that Liberty coin has unique properties? What new an exciting payment methods not covered by other payment systems does it offer since you make that claim? Why do you censor peoples liberty in the official thread? (Taking away liberty from libertycoin) Just this once I will answer some of your questions NOT to the best of my ability, but enough to clear some air maybe. Just this one because I use my handle, the only one I have, while you are a sock puppet, just to make it clear. Alright, I will reply to some of your points once since you state you were buying as people sold, but now you can't say that nobody informed you! Not only the code is copy paste, like the wallet (or close enough, anyway) but it is PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE that it is. Nobody has lied about that from the get go. Specifically Iconic posted clearly the reason why he was joining, the reasons: The name -I doubt you have the capacity to value what's in a name, but a lot is-, and the enormous market opportunity it presented. Not the code. Not the innovations. Just the name, basically. Then he created a very nice logo. And then he made a few promises. It is wayh too soon to believe or disbelieve those promises. A lot of people do. If it is Public Knowledge how come in the promo material they are using for marketing states Liberty coin as having unique properties and having exciting payment methods not covered by other payment systems. Its false advertising and does that equal Bitcoin 3.0 because they changed the name of hackcoin? I know the value of a name, but just because I call my Nissan a Bentley it doesn't change the fact that its still a Nissan. He also made statements about goals that were to be accomplished and they were time sensitive and deadlines were not met; Making him a liar. Actually what it makes is you very poor at establishing similarities. A car brand is associated with performance and a prestige that comes from many years and accomplishments... nothing to do with cryptos at all. Besides, the deadlines are invented by you, never existed and no promises were made. IF they would have been, it would be the dev failing those deadlines, not IE. But I'll give you a deadline close enough: Tomorrow, in the US, but worldwide the event, two important and promised (by IE) innovative features, are being released... in keeping with the promises of innovation and singularity. Of course you will find a way to try to taint those too. Good luck with that! Now, the most important thing is that you claim that, because you were scammed by 24 Hash, there was a conspiracy behind it. But you prove nothing of that short. That's absurd hearsay, or FUD as it were. If it is true and the devs were in cahoots with 24Hash, you will need to prove it, sorry. Iconic has a history of making the same claims without as much circumstantial evidence and yet you seem to believe the guy has god like powers when it comes to marketing. Because the marketing wisdom of IE has been corroborated and accepted by everyone, even his most redundant enemies and people that dislike, like me, some of his methods. No one questions his marketing abilities, no one. You don't know who the dev is, but most people with half a brain does. I know his handle, his deeds -and there are many, of all kinds- and also his real name, nationality and geographical location. I had to investigate quite heavily to come up with the same referred to you "don" of BC and it's Black Hand. I have found no evidence whatsoever, so far, of any organized group acting in cahoots with the dev of Libertycoin. Furthermore, the biggest wallet in XLB has just about 400k coins... yes you have charged that it has been spread in hundreds of wallets, that's hard to believe and relatively easy to demonstrate soon enough in the future if the community so decides . In any case, just conjecture on your part. How would you know what I know? Also you cannot see the amount of coins that people keep stashed on exchanges. It would surprise you! You also know that Iconic expert refuses to share even one of his many wallet balance as he doesn't want anybody in the community to see if he is dumping or not. You posted yourself that no one knows who the dev is ???? No it would not surprise me to know the amount of coins stashed at exchanges because, well, there's the blockchain, you see. You can see what is where. And there's no more than 450k stashed on ANY wallet, including those at the exchanges. All those questions have a single answer: Iconic Expert. He has taken the FULL responsibility for those things. No need to look anywhere else. If he doesn't deliver, his reputation will be ruined. Fair enough? As you and other reading this well know, I don't like the guy personally and find some of his ideas preposterous, dangerous and counter-productive. And I find Troiste probably the individual most lacking class under the stars, but, a) IE has a lot of ideas and some of them with a lot of merit... enough to propel BC to 95 and more than enough to have taken XLB to 20 in 10 days. Those are facts whether you like the guy or not. As for Troiste, by luck or whatever, he FOUND Libertycoin. To Caesar what is Caesar's. I deplore as much as anyone the hookers idea that I have termed "Soepkip pants of XLB" myself. What's true is true. End of that story. I can't believe you actually give the guy the entire credit for the blackcoin run to 95, they had a massive community a talented dev and a heap of other people working on it as well, Also almost every single coin gets pumped at one time or another so correlation isn't always causation. So, to sum it up, unless you prove the 24 hash scam had anything to do with the devs of XLB, I am going to call that what it is: Bullshit. ALL THE REST of your questions, have the same answer: Iconic Expert. For good, bad or in-between. Believe or do not believe, up to you. He IS Liberty coin. He has publicly assumed that responsibility. Your answer sounds like Those questions are to hard/bad for Libertycoin so I am just going to say IE You mistake "hard" with "stupid"... in keeping with your shortcomings about establishing similarities. It's meant to read that if IE doesn't deliver on those things, like he is delivering in a few hours, it will be his considerable prestige on the line. But make no mistake about it -read them aloud for reassurance- they are stupid, very stupid considerations/questions. Now, keep the FUD if you like, but there's nothing tangible on your side of the net. Sorry but, like everyone else, you will need to wait to be able to colled shit. Otherwise, just a handle and an individual that everyone knows who he is and where he lives. I hope I have satisfactorily answered all your questions. Well your answer wasn't a real answer so no Edit to add: The charge about only 3.5 days initial PoW mining, what do you expect? only 16.5 million coins. When they run out, they run out. It depends on the hashing power thrown at it, you should know that... Hahaha what a comedian, Its called block reward and block time; you cant think of one coin that has been going since 09 hmmm only 12.9 million coins mined so far. Its an instant mine, designed so that if a coin takes off a few people get rich and is the bread and butter of shit pump and dump clone coins Are we assuming IE is smart here? Just saying, any expert trader/manipulator do not put their coins in one wallet, even in an exchange. that would be uber stupid. Oh I don't know about smarts. Or about honesty. But let me pose a question to you and you decide: If your life would depend on it, who would you trust, a nerd reject that at 27 still lived with his parents for free rent and couldn't buy himself a computer or a successful businessman that ALSO has raised and supports a nice family? Then again, are we assuming you are smart here? Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: minedout on May 27, 2014, 01:53:03 AM http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/25oda8/ie_and_barrabas_one_and_the_same/ hahahahahaha. I'll be staying even further away from XLB and iconic. What a joke. Also - I am SO glad they cannot delete posts here. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: barabbas on May 27, 2014, 01:58:30 AM http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/25oda8/ie_and_barrabas_one_and_the_same/ hahahahahaha. I'll be staying even further away from XLB and iconic. What a joke. Also - I am SO glad they cannot delete posts here. What are you some new kind of stupid? Tomorrow is Libertycoin Day and IE has promised to do a bunch of stuff. It's 10PM in New York on Memorial Day. And he still has a lot of those cards to mail out tomorrow. Do you honestly believe he has the time to waste that I have to be responding to this nonsense? You really should try to put to some use your skull for once... wow. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: BitSmacker on May 27, 2014, 03:48:47 AM http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/25oda8/ie_and_barrabas_one_and_the_same/ hahahahahaha. I'll be staying even further away from XLB and iconic. What a joke. Also - I am SO glad they cannot delete posts here. Actually someone is deleting posts here... Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: BitSmacker on May 27, 2014, 04:31:55 AM http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/25oda8/ie_and_barrabas_one_and_the_same/ hahahahahaha. I'll be staying even further away from XLB and iconic. What a joke. Also - I am SO glad they cannot delete posts here. What are you some new kind of stupid? Tomorrow is Libertycoin Day and IE has promised to do a bunch of stuff. It's 10PM in New York on Memorial Day. And he still has a lot of those cards to mail out tomorrow. Do you honestly believe he has the time to waste that I have to be responding to this nonsense? You really should try to put to some use your skull for once... wow. So how is it going IconicExpert? How many logins do you have hyping your shitcoin? I'm guessing about six. Amirite? Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: cryptonewstoday on May 27, 2014, 08:26:15 AM Truth or not, I'm out. Too much drama is never good for a community and a coin... And it has been a huge amount of drama.
I'd rather invest in a coin that has devoted devs that want a good product and are not out for quick cash Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: CoinBreader on May 27, 2014, 08:46:32 AM well in both cases iv mined heavyly XLB sell at a peak keep a little something for later, cause you never know....
Now days i dont even bother read post of "Newbie"s rank, some times not even on Jr Memb Why dont you make this post from your main account ?? 99% of negative post for X coin from a Newbie is FUD, positive is a fake acc dont bother and dont pretend Zoro Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Iconicfraudster on May 27, 2014, 02:45:02 PM Just this once I will answer some of your questions NOT to the best of my ability, but enough to clear some air maybe. Just this one because I use my handle, the only one I have, while you are a sock puppet, just to make it clear. Alright, I will reply to some of your points once since you state you were buying as people sold, but now you can't say that nobody informed you! Not only the code is copy paste, like the wallet (or close enough, anyway) but it is PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE that it is. Nobody has lied about that from the get go. Specifically Iconic posted clearly the reason why he was joining, the reasons: The name -I doubt you have the capacity to value what's in a name, but a lot is-, and the enormous market opportunity it presented. Not the code. Not the innovations. Just the name, basically. Then he created a very nice logo. And then he made a few promises. It is wayh too soon to believe or disbelieve those promises. A lot of people do. If it is Public Knowledge how come in the promo material they are using for marketing states Liberty coin as having unique properties and having exciting payment methods not covered by other payment systems. Its false advertising and does that equal Bitcoin 3.0 because they changed the name of hackcoin? I know the value of a name, but just because I call my Nissan a Bentley it doesn't change the fact that its still a Nissan. He also made statements about goals that were to be accomplished and they were time sensitive and deadlines were not met; Making him a liar. Actually what it makes is you very poor at establishing similarities. A car brand is associated with performance and a prestige that comes from many years and accomplishments... nothing to do with cryptos at all. Besides, the deadlines are invented by you, never existed and no promises were made. IF they would have been, it would be the dev failing those deadlines, not IE. But I'll give you a deadline close enough: Tomorrow, in the US, but worldwide the event, two important and promised (by IE) innovative features, are being released... in keeping with the promises of innovation and singularity. Of course you will find a way to try to taint those too. Good luck with that! So according to you in Cryptos innovation and development don't matter its all about the name. Please, what a joke. They promised the first anonymous POS coin, they did not deliver. They promised press releases those have been pushed back. Read thorough his post, proof is in the pudding Now, the most important thing is that you claim that, because you were scammed by 24 Hash, there was a conspiracy behind it. But you prove nothing of that short. That's absurd hearsay, or FUD as it were. If it is true and the devs were in cahoots with 24Hash, you will need to prove it, sorry. Iconic has a history of making the same claims without as much circumstantial evidence and yet you seem to believe the guy has god like powers when it comes to marketing. Because the marketing wisdom of IE has been corroborated and accepted by everyone, even his most redundant enemies and people that dislike, like me, some of his methods. No one questions his marketing abilities, no one. No it was actually questioned by quite a few, the multipool and coinkite had a lot to do as well as 1000 community members, not just Iconic that's a FACT You don't know who the dev is, but most people with half a brain does. I know his handle, his deeds -and there are many, of all kinds- and also his real name, nationality and geographical location. I had to investigate quite heavily to come up with the same referred to you "don" of BC and it's Black Hand. I have found no evidence whatsoever, so far, of any organized group acting in cahoots with the dev of Libertycoin. Furthermore, the biggest wallet in XLB has just about 400k coins... yes you have charged that it has been spread in hundreds of wallets, that's hard to believe and relatively easy to demonstrate soon enough in the future if the community so decides . In any case, just conjecture on your part. How would you know what I know? Also you cannot see the amount of coins that people keep stashed on exchanges. It would surprise you! You also know that Iconic expert refuses to share even one of his many wallet balance as he doesn't want anybody in the community to see if he is dumping or not. You posted yourself that no one knows who the dev is ???? No it would not surprise me to know the amount of coins stashed at exchanges because, well, there's the blockchain, you see. You can see what is where. And there's no more than 450k stashed on ANY wallet, including those at the exchanges. When did I ever say I don't know who the dev is, please quote it in my post. Making stuff up to support your arguments won't work! All those questions have a single answer: Iconic Expert. He has taken the FULL responsibility for those things. No need to look anywhere else. If he doesn't deliver, his reputation will be ruined. Fair enough? As you and other reading this well know, I don't like the guy personally and find some of his ideas preposterous, dangerous and counter-productive. And I find Troiste probably the individual most lacking class under the stars, but, a) IE has a lot of ideas and some of them with a lot of merit... enough to propel BC to 95 and more than enough to have taken XLB to 20 in 10 days. Those are facts whether you like the guy or not. As for Troiste, by luck or whatever, he FOUND Libertycoin. To Caesar what is Caesar's. I deplore as much as anyone the hookers idea that I have termed "Soepkip pants of XLB" myself. What's true is true. End of that story. I can't believe you actually give the guy the entire credit for the blackcoin run to 95, they had a massive community a talented dev and a heap of other people working on it as well, Also almost every single coin gets pumped at one time or another so correlation isn't always causation. So, to sum it up, unless you prove the 24 hash scam had anything to do with the devs of XLB, I am going to call that what it is: Bullshit. ALL THE REST of your questions, have the same answer: Iconic Expert. For good, bad or in-between. Believe or do not believe, up to you. He IS Liberty coin. He has publicly assumed that responsibility. Your answer sounds like Those questions are to hard/bad for Libertycoin so I am just going to say IE You mistake "hard" with "stupid"... in keeping with your shortcomings about establishing similarities. It's meant to read that if IE doesn't deliver on those things, like he is delivering in a few hours, it will be his considerable prestige on the line. But make no mistake about it -read them aloud for reassurance- they are stupid, very stupid considerations/questions. Ya its pretty stupid to ask why a lot of people lost their coins, its pretty stupid to ask why the make factless claims to trick newbies, its pretty stupid to question people who only tell you to buy, post pictures but never give you any information. That's pretty stupid better just hand them all my money Now, keep the FUD if you like, but there's nothing tangible on your side of the net. Sorry but, like everyone else, you will need to wait to be able to colled shit. Otherwise, just a handle and an individual that everyone knows who he is and where he lives. I hope I have satisfactorily answered all your questions. Well your answer wasn't a real answer so no Edit to add: The charge about only 3.5 days initial PoW mining, what do you expect? only 16.5 million coins. When they run out, they run out. It depends on the hashing power thrown at it, you should know that... Hahaha what a comedian, Its called block reward and block time; you cant think of one coin that has been going since 09 hmmm only 12.9 million coins mined so far. Its an instant mine, designed so that if a coin takes off a few people get rich and is the bread and butter of shit pump and dump clone coins There's humor in it, of course. I repeat: Libertycoin is IE's coin as far as I am concerned. Before he came on board, I can only assume -and you are not helping since you dont seem to be able to audit the blockchain- reasons for some of the circumstances, based on knowledge of the dev and some of his circumstances. But it is an assumption... as valid -actually considerably more so- as your unsubstantiated charges and extrapolations that have been contested by more people than that who has support them. You think I am deterred because a bunch of Iconics bunch who come here to just trash it but don't answer any questions. IF anybody can disprove all arguments, not just one then maybe I would be persuaded. Lots of people don't post as they don't want to get harassed by that crew they will just read and move on. You claim I don't know how to audit the block chain because I haven't posted my results doesn't mean I haven't Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: IconicAmateur on May 27, 2014, 03:09:19 PM You really should try to put to some use your skull for once... wow. Your attitude here is so condescending that it stinks. You build your stack of logic behind a lot of nice ornamental words but the truth is you are just another lost in the harshness of the world cynic. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: MisO69 on May 27, 2014, 03:21:17 PM The only reason we have all these coins is so that the devs can profit off it.
The way I see it you can do one of two things. 1) Ride the train and dump before they do. 2) Ignore the post. Anything else is futile. Like you creating another liberty coin. That is a complete waste of time. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Iconicfraudster on May 27, 2014, 04:12:14 PM .
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Iconicfraudster on May 27, 2014, 04:36:28 PM INB4 Shitstorm Quote [18:28] <templar77> lol [18:29] <Xuthus> can anyone link me the last FUD, i still can not follow what happened [18:29] <DiabolusLoki> @ africanos https://twitter.com/IconicExpert [18:29] <@africanos> thanks DiabolusLoki [18:29] <shaft_> Im going to paste bin all these so people can see all the FUD IE creates [18:29] <shaft_> then blames others [18:29] <@africanos> IconicExpert: please post about the wallet and the tech + whitepaper [18:29] <shaft_> http://s30.postimg.org/wdblqw7rl/iebwanted.jpg [18:29] <IconicExpert> im done here..im forking this shit and creating a new everything. More than half of the community is with me... [18:30] <@africanos> hm [18:30] <IconicExpert> africanos fuck you...I know all about you scams [18:30] <@africanos> can I mine it ? [18:30] <templar77> We got the exchanges so do whatever you want [18:30] <@africanos> which ones ? [18:30] <shaft_> his forking withour the github pass [18:30] <shaft_> LOL [18:30] <@africanos> I do alot [18:30] <@africanos> I usely use Wolong [18:30] <@africanos> as my nickname :) [18:30] == kapBTT [~chatzilla@public-gprs386948.centertel.pl] has joined #libertycoin [18:30] <shaft_> IE your done in crypto [18:30] <IconicExpert> shaft_we will see [18:30] <shaft_> all your scams will be called out [18:30] <@africanos> wallet release date ? [18:30] <IconicExpert> bye [18:30] <shaft_> you are an attention whore [18:30] == IconicExpert [6c235b2c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.35.91.44] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] Thought I would repost this as it will probably get deleted out of the main thread Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: thaitunhi1606 on May 27, 2014, 05:32:12 PM SELL NOW
BULLSHIT Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: K0b1 on May 27, 2014, 06:40:54 PM The smart money BUY NOW ! LOL, THANKS FOR THE FUD ...
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: BitSmacker on May 27, 2014, 07:19:06 PM well in both cases iv mined heavyly XLB sell at a peak keep a little something for later, cause you never know.... Now days i dont even bother read post of "Newbie"s rank, some times not even on Jr Memb Why dont you make this post from your main account ?? 99% of negative post for X coin from a Newbie is FUD, positive is a fake acc dont bother and dont pretend Zoro Probably because IE has a proven track record of trying to undermine any coin that his adversaries promote by dumping them. He is not shy about it he openly admits it. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: pennyw1se on May 27, 2014, 08:36:52 PM And you don't need to know a developer's name to invest in a coin, are you for real? Would you invest in a company without knowing who's running it, where they've been and what they've done? All that factors in to pricing on real stocks so why would the same not apply for cryptocurrency where we invest real money? Come on use your head. Bitcoin was the exception because it was the first and enough people said ok lets try it, but since then there has been so much scamming going on that if you aren't investigating who's who you're just asking to get took. Glad I said this yesterday. But don't take it from me.Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: kpierce77 on May 27, 2014, 08:42:31 PM I went to Mintpal and saw that Liberty had dropped to 3000! I got out of Liberty about a week ago and got into XC. Wow am I glad I did. What's interesting about this is that Iconic was also part of the whole BC drama, and I know lots of people who won't touch BC ever again because 1) the massive dump, and 2) the drama brought on by Iconic. Now, Iconic, or should I say Christoper Bouzy's involved in scamming people out of money with yet another coin. Are we sure that Iconic's not involved with Dreamcoin? Lol Anyway, glad I got out when I did. Looks like today was Iconic's day for getting lots of money handed to him. No doubt people will be hunting for this Christopher Bouzy guy.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: EmilioMann on May 27, 2014, 08:45:18 PM INB4 Shitstorm Quote [18:28] <templar77> lol [18:29] <Xuthus> can anyone link me the last FUD, i still can not follow what happened [18:29] <DiabolusLoki> @ africanos https://twitter.com/IconicExpert [18:29] <@africanos> thanks DiabolusLoki [18:29] <shaft_> Im going to paste bin all these so people can see all the FUD IE creates [18:29] <shaft_> then blames others [18:29] <@africanos> IconicExpert: please post about the wallet and the tech + whitepaper [18:29] <shaft_> http://s30.postimg.org/wdblqw7rl/iebwanted.jpg [18:29] <IconicExpert> im done here..im forking this shit and creating a new everything. More than half of the community is with me... [18:30] <@africanos> hm [18:30] <IconicExpert> africanos fuck you...I know all about you scams [18:30] <@africanos> can I mine it ? [18:30] <templar77> We got the exchanges so do whatever you want [18:30] <@africanos> which ones ? [18:30] <shaft_> his forking withour the github pass [18:30] <shaft_> LOL [18:30] <@africanos> I do alot [18:30] <@africanos> I usely use Wolong [18:30] <@africanos> as my nickname :) [18:30] == kapBTT [~chatzilla@public-gprs386948.centertel.pl] has joined #libertycoin [18:30] <shaft_> IE your done in crypto [18:30] <IconicExpert> shaft_we will see [18:30] <shaft_> all your scams will be called out [18:30] <@africanos> wallet release date ? [18:30] <IconicExpert> bye [18:30] <shaft_> you are an attention whore [18:30] == IconicExpert [6c235b2c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.35.91.44] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] Thought I would repost this as it will probably get deleted out of the main thread "africanos" was never a dev Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: HappyHogan on May 27, 2014, 09:21:09 PM Anything IE touches is a train wreck
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Djinou94 on May 28, 2014, 12:27:39 AM Fuck if i read this thread before this fucking dump...
But thanks to Iconicfraudster i think you safe many people here Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: konamist on May 28, 2014, 06:08:57 AM I should have read this thread two days ago, damn it
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: hellyeahent on May 28, 2014, 01:15:19 PM and mintpal need to change policy of adding new coins as they want. Vote and add 1 per 7 days isnt enough ?
after mintpal helped BC with coinkite stuff I thought - wow they arent greedy, low fees, nice looking exchange - awesome, but now i see all they want is "hype coin" volume Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: EmilioMann on May 28, 2014, 02:12:26 PM Ok, Iconic Expert, barabbas, Africanos, Clockers25, Boomslang, brammien, TenaciusC, Crypto_Wolf and all different accounts of Christopher Bouzy. I deleted my old post, but you asked for it again and again and again...
Christopher Bouzy (IE and others) 1655 Flatbush Ave Brooklyn, NY 11210 In this public link, everyone can see a picture of this bastard scammer and bad father and bad husband and bad human http://eccentricdandy.tumblr.com/post/27738472317/christopher-bouzy-natalia-bouzy-and-jennifer (http://eccentricdandy.tumblr.com/post/27738472317/christopher-bouzy-natalia-bouzy-and-jennifer) Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: stryknyne666 on May 28, 2014, 03:53:50 PM Ok, Iconic Expert, barabbas, Africanos, Clockers25, Boomslang, brammien, TenaciusC, Crypto_Wolf and all different accounts of Christopher Bouzy. I deleted my old post, but you asked for it again and again and again... Christopher Bouzy (IE and others) 1655 Flatbush Ave Brooklyn, NY 11210 In this public link, everyone can see a picture of this bastard scammer and bad father and bad husband and bad human http://eccentricdandy.tumblr.com/post/27738472317/christopher-bouzy-natalia-bouzy-and-jennifer (http://eccentricdandy.tumblr.com/post/27738472317/christopher-bouzy-natalia-bouzy-and-jennifer) Just want to throw this out there but Africanos isn't one of IE's shrill accounts. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Boomslang on May 28, 2014, 04:57:54 PM Ok, Iconic Expert, barabbas, Africanos, Clockers25, Boomslang, brammien, TenaciusC, Crypto_Wolf and all different accounts of Christopher Bouzy. I deleted my old post, but you asked for it again and again and again... I removed the link as it is inappropriate to keep linking it.Christopher Bouzy (IE and others) 1655 Flatbush Ave Brooklyn, NY 11210 In this public link, everyone can see a picture of this bastard scammer and bad father and bad husband and bad human I was deeply upset by the picture you posted last night, it was totally out of order. If it wasn't for me getting it removed, it would probably have escalated even further. I did you a favour by getting it removed, and you do yourself no favours by repeatedly linking it. I was surprised other people did not ask you to remove it and that other posters actually defended you posting it. Please stop associating my userid with IE, you have your facts wrong. I am 48, white, living in London. If you want to track me down, you are welcome. Check my IP if you want. I know that I will never convince you I am not, so it's useless trying any more. I was present in the IRC when it all occurred, saw the dump and got out quick. If I hadn't been in IRC I would have lost a lot of money. I watched the IRC for a further 10 hours. The conversation in IRC between IE and Templar77 from when IE joined to when IE left has been linked elsewhere. What is not widely known is that after IE left, the whole conversation went downhill very quickly with lots of messages in the vein of "For the Lulz" and the suggestion that Libertycoin should be integrated into BF4!. It was when that all started that I got out. Not because IE or others dumped or whatever, but because I then realised that Libertycoin was being run by people whose real objectives did not seem to be very honourable at all and were being surrounded by idiots. Afer IE left the channel, there was an influx of new users and it went further downhill from there. Polzki initially wanted to work with IE - it is all there, embedded in the IRC conversation. After IE left the channel, Polzki was then desperate to work with Templar77 and to outsource the anonymity aspect to Chinese programmers. This is not a racist statement, it is the facts. Pozki specifically said he can throw a lot of money at this using his connections in China and the Far East. I will leave people to judge for themslves the importance and future impact of this move. I fully supported Libertycoin as can be seen from my previous posts before this debacle. I offered bounties for language translations for the website. I created an XLS spreadsheet copy/paste with notes to be sent out to the people offering translations. This was done in my own time, neither the devs nor IE had anything to do with it. Brammien and myself were trying to co-ordinate this so that when Liberty Day came along the devs would have at least a working prototype of website translations in different languages from which they could implement it further. I proof-read the Liberty Day announcement, one of the countdown sites and the main libertycoin.co website itself and sent corrections or ammendments to IE as I wanted the website to be up to scratch. FYI, IE never responded. I offered another marketting suggestion to IE - again, he never responded. I do not know if brammien is IE, but at least brammien responded to my PM's and we tried to do *something* at least to help Libertycoin and push it forward. Very few people in this community did anything practical to help move Libertycoin forward. I followed the trail back to BC and I - along with many people here - had warning flags about IE and was watching things closely. At this point, I thought the trouble may lie solely with IE and that I had to be careful. I had my XLB on 3 exchanges, ready for any mishap to occur, just in case. Even after trading for only 3 weeks I was sensible enough not to blindly believe the hype, protect my investment, and not follow a dancing shepherd over a cliff to the waiting rocks below. I lost a little bit on Sync, recovered my mining costs from CTZ, got wallet-locked on RTC (thankfully I only had 1,668 RTC). The real issue, however, is not just about IE - the last couple of days have exposed a large proportion of people here as a community of hate, despicable and poisonous posting, threats of violence and retribution, threats of gun use and murder, use of innapropraite imagery, falsehood and badly researched assumptions linking users who have valid opinions about the state of Libertycoin as fake Id's of IE. I do know there have also been some sensible posters in this thread and I have identified those people and will follow their posts in future. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Leknar on May 28, 2014, 05:01:28 PM Scam everywhere
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: EmilioMann on May 28, 2014, 06:21:01 PM HERE IS A LITTLE COMPLIATION OF NEWS FROM THE DEVELOPER, ALL IN ONCE PLACE. THEY ARE WORKING HARD. POSITIVE COMMUNITY SUPPORT IS KEY !! [Draft] Official Statement regarding the event occurred today and the future of Libertycoin What happened? This morning (CST), one of our members changed the password of the Bitcointalk account. A few hours after that, we got a message from Iconic Expert threatening to fork Libertycoin and start a new thread because we had changed the password. Obviously, that sounded nuts. After that, he joined the IRC channel where I (Templar77) already had been for a few hours. He said he was trying to work for Libertycoin but I was always in his way. I asked him what was the problem, but he never answered that. I even told him that I still wanted to collaborate with him, but he said he was done with Libertycoin and he left. After that, the price plumbed to from 12k satoshi to 5k satoshi. How Iconic Expert got involved in Libertycoin We gave him access to the Bitcointalk account almost a week ago. His task was to ‘promote’ Libertycoin. When we received him we were not well informed of what he had done in the Blackcoin community. All the week when he was involved our thread was flooded with attacks against him. In the beginning, we didn’t give much importance to those posts for we thought it was coming from trolls, but days passed and the attacks against him never stopped, so we decided to investigate more about him. Iconic Expert Christopher Bouzy, aka Iconic Expert, received Blackcoin donations to ‘make’ an event in Wall Street, but then he cancelled it and never gave back the money to the people. Basically, he said he was leaving Blackcoin and launching his own coin, but never returned the money. We have confirmed so far that he uses other ‘proxy’ accounts, like Barabbas, to post in Bitcointalk and Twitter. The price fall So what has changed in Libertycoin? Nothing, Libertycoin is the same coin that was yesterday, and the day before, so there is really no reason for a reduction in the price. Libertycoin is now stronger because we got rid of a known scammer. We obviously do not have all the answers for what caused the price fall, but we can say it is very likely that Iconic Expert dumping all his coins and all the FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) he caused with his ‘proxy’ accounts. Iconic Expert bough in probably around 1,000 – 2,000 satoshi so he probably had a big amount of coins. Anonymity Libertycoin Anonymity Development (past) As you might now, we offered a bounty of 7 BTC and 30,000 XLB to implement any kind of anonymity in the Libertycoin protocol. Almost a week ago, Tranzium and others started developing it. A standalone version was set up here: http://cosmiclottery.com/libertycoin/ Around two days ago, we received an email from the team working on that implementation saying they could not finish the work because they were struggling to implement it into the wallet/daemon, so we keep waiting for them and finish it while finding someone else to do the job. Libertycoin Anonymity Development (today) Today Polzki contacted us with a possible solution. He says he knows the CEO of a programming company in China, so they can help us develop a new and innovative anonymity function for the Libertycoin protocol. The website of the company: http://www.synv.com/ At 1:50 pm (China) he will be talking to the CEO of the company. The CEO is his friend so he might make us a huge discount for it, but we will also support him with the bounty we raised if it is needed. They will use Tranzium's code, so they won't start from zero. The development team From now, loljosh, Polzki and I (Templar77) will have predominant roll in the development of this coin. I personally don’t have anything to hide; I say this because Iconic Expert things he can attack me publishing my personal information. My personal Information is easily acquired because I as I mentioned I have nothing to hide. My name is Carlos from Mexico and I am a Economics and Political Science student but I am also a self-taught person in programming. It’s just information that you can easily google. Proof-of-ownership I own 312,000 Libertycoins which I bought with my own money in various moments, some of them even when XLB was trading at 600 satoshi. I have moved 300,000 coins to the address below: LZ2suWZw4RoCVT4amdUJRzu4pLawnfQEjR I show you that so you know how much I believe in this coin. I’m not planning to ‘dump’ any time soon. I’ll keep the coins in that address, and I don’t plan to move them for I’m a terrible trader. Scam accusations In recent days, a thread was made saying Libertycoin is a scam coin, but that, of couse, lacks of any logic or fundament. -Libertycoin was pre-announced almost two days it was launched, so it was not ‘ninja-launched’. -Libertycoin didn’t have a single premined block. -Libertycoin was mined for four days. -The network reached almost 80 Gh/s which means thousands of miners when mining. I own a miner with 200 Kh/s so if I own Libertycoin is because I bought them. I have the right to buy any coin I want and make use of it in any way. I this case I invested in Libertycoin because I believe in it as a long term investment. I have provided you my address, so you can ‘monitor’ it if you like. The future As I mentioned above I believe in Libertycoin as a long term investment, for that reason I have the following projects planned. Liberty Labs In a couple of days, I will be registering my startup that will be dedicated to create and offer services for Libertycoin and Bitcoin, especially in Latin America. Liberator operation I am planning to set up ATMs in Mexico City using the machines from http://projectskyhook.com . This ATMs will work both for Bitcoin and Libertycoin. This ‘operation’ should bring a lot of attention from the media for these will first ATMs in Mexico City, and Libertycoin will be one of the few altcoins that have this kind of infrastructure. In the future, I could ‘deploy’ more ATMs in other countries such as Panama and Argentina. Exchange The other thing I’ve been working for months, is to create a Bitcoin/FIAT exchange for Mexico. I have got all the legal stuff done but the ‘platform’ is still under developments and should be launching in less than 3 months. I’m planning to add Libertycoin to this project as well. My vision of cryptocurrency and Libertycoin Many people may have problems with my ideology/vision of cryptocurrencies. I describe myself as a Libertarian and maybe a crypto anarchist. I believe in total decentralization, so I usually struggle with the concept of ‘dev tem’ taking care of absolutely everything in a coin. I hate when people blame the ‘dev team’ for a given price in the market. It’s not the job of a dev to care about the price. If the price falls is not our fault or our job to make it rise. That’s just pump and dump coins behavior. I cannot type sudo apt-get price $1 and make the price rise. It’s a free market. If you want a coin’s price to rise you have to work for it and not just depend on the ‘dev team’. Many people struggle with idea: I do not thing that what people call ‘innovation’ is needed for a coin to succeed. It only needs hard work, a good name, time and a good community. Litecoin is the proof of that. It is just a copy of Tenebrix and Fairbrix with no innovations at all and yet it stands as the second biggest cryptocurrency. We can say the same for Dogecoin, Zetacoin, Feathercoin, and many others. Even Blackcoin is just a copy of Novacoin with just simple tweaks. It provides no innovation at all. Darkcoin is another good example, it was not the first anonymous coin and they don’t even delivered what they promised: a decentralized anon feature. It’s totally centralized. In my opinion, name is king. With a name like ‘Libertycoin’ we should be able to have more success than coins like Darkcoin. ‘Real life’ businesses will never say “Darkcoin acceted here’. They will rather prefer more friendly names. We will implement anonymity because the community asked for it, but I don’t believe it’s primordial for Libertycoin to succed. Templar77 I got positive answer from CEO to help out with the problem in wallet integration. We will start working today with Tranzium's code.. just need to confirm few things when he comes online becouse of possible mistakes if not. We need to confirm few certain details in the code but after that everything is cool and work starts as planned before in IRC :) June 1.st 21:00PM (CST) is estimated time to get ANON integrated to the wallet & ONLINE. Will keep you guys updated daily when progress happens. Liberty for all ! Stay strong community ! Hello again so i hired my coder like i SAID and we did a bit work allready too.. but work is stuck now becouse of some trouble with the bounties. The reason bounty is a problem now is that i need the code for mixer from Tranzium but he wants his bounty first which i understand becouse he has work done allready.. so now im waiting with my Hired guy who i paid 1500~$ to just chill now unfortunately.. ::). Hopefully this will resolve soon.. i dont want to delay.. not even with one day personally with my partner :). I have messaged Main Dev. Carlos who is responsible about the bountys :) I will tweet & post on forums if delay unfortunately happens but we are still on schedule. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Im planning to modify Tranziums mixer-code to make a node network which would work by allowing the wallet user to easily acces it in the options to make his/hers wallet a node. Benefits with this compared with single anon server are:
Penalties when wanting to be anymous themselves & send/receive while stopping the process of being a node would be: You have to wait 8 hours for coin to mature first before you can become a node..after that when wanting to send/receive XLB & be anymous 8 hour maturing will start again... This is just the start if we can resolve the bounty issues im interested into adding some more unique features alone or with my friends. What do you think about this True-Anon & these Value rising properties ? Im very interested to hear from the community about your point of view ;). Follow me on Twitter for major updates: https://twitter.com/polzkibtc (https://twitter.com/polzkibtc) Well i offered to make Integration with the wallet & Mixer so like you know.. Im still waiting for the mixer and thats the reason why my guy doesnt really have work right now its essential that the code for mixing coins is bought by Carlos via Bounty. Even when i get the code for mixing coins i have to modify it to make the network truly anymous instead of Single-Server Honeypot. I can do this all still as deadline on the: 1.st. Hopefully it doesnt longer than anticipated to get the waited mixing code & start work.... One day delay will be real unfortunately if i dont get them before 21:00 EEST. I have been awake too long now for .. almost 4 days.. hopefully someone appreciates what we are trying to do ! :'(. My partner will continue when any news come up ... Main Dev. is figuring things out now ! This coin has a huge potential. With the right people working, it may be the next big thing in crypto. [/quote] Agreed! Show your support! XLB to the moooon! [/quote] [/quote] Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: chases on May 29, 2014, 01:53:16 AM fuck..fuck..fuck..I been offline for 5 days and put everything I had into Liberty...arggggggggg!!!! these assholes are going to ruin cryptos from ever making the long haul past fiat. jesus..first mt.gox, then cryptorush and then coinex.pw and now this!! damnit..I hope other traders are making something. peace
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: barabbas on May 29, 2014, 09:54:48 PM This is from Blackcoin, take a look: https://github.com/rat4/blackcoin/blob/master/src/main.h#L38 If Libertycoin is a scam Blackcoin is a scam too. :) You clearly don't know what you are talking about. Ha..where you been? Everyone here knows including you I accused BlackCoin for being a scam. But forget them and focus on XLB. Lets assume I am wrong, why the fishy github history? Also, who dumped on Liberty Day? It was a dump everyone knows it, so who dumped? If it wasn't you, then who? Do you have some idea? Iconic, if you don't actually know who dumped, why did you announce it so surely on Twitter straight away? You destroyed everybody's investment before they had a chance to work out what was happening. Libertycoin was not premined so accusing us (the dev team) about 'dumping' is clearly nonsense. No Carlitos, the gig is up, the scam has been uncovered, boy: You and loljosh scammed this community through the pool that didn't pay the people mining. The charges have been made already in the other forum and you know very well they are true. You and your pal loljosh, scammed and continue scamming this community. 3 million coins? probably more. And I don't know if you two dumped on Liberty Day but sure as hell I know you were massively dumping BEFORE. I personally located 3 wallets that were emptied of their 1.3 million coins. And change. Only you and loljosh could have such amount of coins when the biggest exchange had no more than 450k and no other holders were significantly above 400K each. You and loljosh were and are dumping all of your 3 million coins and probably much more. That's hove you scammed and continue scamming this community, "amigo". Now hurry up to erase this one, ok? maybe it will disappear, although my guess is that it will forever be a reminder of what you and your pal loljosh do and that you have done already to a bunch others like Grumpycoin, Universitycoin and quite a few others. The trail is all there, for people to follow, before the put a penny more on your "enterprises", your "pools", your "exchanges" your "coin creation (copy/paste hackjobs) 'business'", etc. Even the only thing you know a little bit about, graphic design, no one will ever want remotely close to you of loljosh---whose real name will also be uncovered soon, to go along with el mejicanito, you, Carlos R. Torres Ferguson, the student of la ITAM in Mexico DF. Edit to add: This post is placed here for it's relevance to the OP subject and because it has been deleted in the Libertychain thread. It will be re-posted in other threads as well so everyone researching Templar 77 or loljosh can find out and follow their scamming trail. Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: barabbas on May 30, 2014, 01:58:18 AM For those interested, loljosh maybe a 17 year old Canadian kid. His path of destruction already includes several scam coins, mos recent of which -with the same partner, by the way- is X11. Follow the path if you are interested, quite entertaining. I won't be surprised if the kid makes Anderson Cooper one of these days...
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: tforce on May 30, 2014, 02:44:07 AM LIB will be a distant memory. Till its rebranded and launched again on another algo and then its round 3 pump an ddump aagain
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: BNK3RED on May 30, 2014, 07:00:12 AM The Group Behind The Libertycoin Scam What I am about to write will without a doubt cause a rift within our community , but I feel this is something I must do to protect the investment of innocent people who believe in LibertyCoin. I ask everyone whether you support me or not, to carefully read and analyse my words without prejudice. When I first started invested in this community I was enthusiastic to be part of a community that is inspiring and full with enthusiasm. For a couple weeks I have known about a coordinated effort to pump the price of Liberty coin. I did not make it officially public because of the ramifications it would have on this community. I thought with the help of others I could stop or at the very least greatly diminish this without letting the general public know, unfortunately we were unsuccessful. There is a prominent group in the libertycoin thread that are all responsible for manipulating the price of LibertyCoin for a couple weeks. Their group owns roughly 91% of the total supply of LibertyCoins. But that is not what they really want, they want your Bitcoin. Since they could not take control of BC They decided to create their own coin to profit off of. They wanted it to seem like a fair release so they came up with the idea of using the official multi-pool to steal everybody's hash and keep the coins for themselves. They would trick everyone into thinking it was the multi-pool fault so they could keep the coins in what would be an disguised instamine launch. They would list it as a 5 day launch but sped up the block times to make sure it only lasted 3.5 days. They would then move the coins to hundred of different wallet address, create fake bitcointalk accounts in order to give the illusion the coin was fairly distributed. Step 1 complete I had no clue at the time any of this was occurring until Troiste started to actively post in the black coin thread that Libertycoin would be the next coin to pump. This is when Step 2 came into play. They had 91% market cap of a coin worth $10.000 now they needed to increase this to at least $1.100.000 in order to have a big payday. In order to do this they simply bought and sold to themselves so that they retain both the bitcoin and the liberty coin but give the illusion of lots of interest and money flowing into the coin. This can be done relatively cheaply as it only cost about 0.82 btc in fees per 542btc worth of volume at a price of 0.00005500. With that sort of volume you quickly get noticed and brought onto Mintpal. Step 3 pump and fleece, By then pumping the price up until enough new money came in they could then smash the price down and buy half back collecting more and more btc each time by organizing pump and dumps. They then planned to try and get new money, by getting you to encourage your family and friends to put all their hard earned money in, so that they can cash out over a million dollars in a little under a few weeks. In the meantime they sell you a copycat project that allows them to make extra profit and try to make it look that they are legitimately working to promote the coin. Well toting it as the next big thing. Everything in this coin is simply a copy and paste half assed effort, they will use images and words of encouragement that Libertycoin will be the next big thing, but look at the facts and stop fooling yourself. There is only a small group of people that will make a million plus and your not included. The best scam is when people don't even know they have been scammed. Step 4 they will use fake accounts to get angry and post fud about them so they can say their not appreciated and exit to create their own coin in June as scheduled. Now please ask yourself these questions: If the coin code is copy and paste, of badger/hack which is a copy paste of nova which is a copy paste of peercoin how will this coin succeed? Why is the press releases and paper wallets copy and paste? How can you claim it was a fair launch when it didn't even last 4 days? (Think bitcoin/litecoin/peercoin/darkcoin how long have they been mined) Why did they delete everybody's post who had coins stolen from the multi-pool? How is it legal to offer free escorts when it may be illegal in their jurisdiction? What are you using to implement anonymous technology? Who is doing it for a 2 btc bounty when other coins couldn't find anybody to do it for under 50 btc? Why does Iconicexpert have access to the dev account, since he is not a developer? (Most devs will simply let the community know who is the marketing direct, not give them access to their personal account) Why is there no white paper, is it just fedoras mixer and an encrypted block chain? what are the "unique properties" as you state that Liberty coin has unique properties? What new an exciting payment methods not covered by other payment systems does it offer since you make that claim? Why do you censor peoples liberty in the official thread? (Taking away liberty from libertycoin) Now you can believe me or you can think this is some lame attempt to get you to sell cheaper but please start asking yourself these questions. If you saw a way that you could use money donated from one coins community to fund a scam that would net you around a million dollars in under a month would you? I felt this was my last option because after today they would be unstoppable. I was faced with a hard decision to make. If I did not say anything people will continue to be ripped off. If I do say something my revelation might cause investors to lose faith in the coin. So I did not make this decision without giving it a lot of thought and time. This is a signal to start dumping coins! Try to Recoup as much of your investment as you can! Let them hold their bag of shit although they have probably already made at least 100 btcs off of it. Please share this information in anyway you can, get it out quickly before their Libertyday fleeces millions from people Now you know what is going on behind the scenes, here are some of the quotes that will help expose this scam: Looks like it is a scam, the scammy pools are probably together with dev no ipo, no premine but 75%coin scammed from pool !!! lol dev or not this coin has no future, really to much coin scammed We really need to make sure this scammy shitcoin never hits an exchange. Let the exchange owners know that listing this shitcoin would be like receiving stolen property. That's what I have in mind at least. You will never make the dev Mr. delete-a-post understand his responsibility, so it's important these scammers can not turn their(Perhaps should be: OUR) loot into Bitcoins. Can't withdraw NO PAYOUT , EVEN IT'S MISSING DEBIT OPTION My post is deleted , big ass https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46151949/LBNoDebitFilter.jpg Please post anything deleted by the little man behind the curtain on the official scamcoin thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602762.new#new also someone tried to access to one of my accounts in the pool, just few hours after the launch if you are a miner of libertycoin then you should think again a self moderated topic Libertycoin is a big scam Dev scamming peoples miners not getting their coins they are deleting users comment on their thread security hole in their code Dev can stealmine as much as XLB they want in short Libertycoin = ScamCoin libertycoin is full of scam a complete shitcoin reply to this thread to keep it active your one post can save many newbies from scam libertycoin I have a little warning for the people who use any coin that implementing Zerocoin like Libertycoin :) Zerocoin's technology require generation of "initial parameter", you can think about it as a "master key". This master key need to be deleted right after it was used and nobody should know about it. Technically, whole security of the currency depend on this "master key". Anyone who gained access to it would have ability to control double spend (i.e. he can create infinite amount of coin, another kind of premine). The creation and destruction of this initial parameter need to be performed in a trusted way to make sure that nobody can know it, include the developer. So, if you guy believe that dev is honest, you can use the coin. If you don't trust him, stay away from that. That's my warning, i'm not trying to spread FUD, but this is some technical information people should know about Zerocoin :) People. The devs don't have control if the pools operator are scammer or not. From the specs and name of this coin. This is a very good coin. My only issue is the master key being raised by one user here and I hope any other people here will take a look at the code and review for any possible exploits or hidden scams like the AC fiasco. Other than that, this coin is great. NICE Censorship here. Troiste can accuse ppl here, If someone wants to correct his BS its getting deleted?? No, because what you are posting is incorrect. If it wasn't for Troiste no one would have even heard about Liberycoin, and that is a fact. So the initial success of Liberty is due to Troiste, and he has been instrumental in helping me continue the success of this coin. What was incorrect at my initial post? Read post #4400 and tell me that's not childish! Anyways there are more ppl involved to help this coin, you and Troiste shouldn't forget about that, they may hold *some* coins. I will say it once more. If it was not for Troiste this coin would not have received the initial excitement it did, that is a fact. He also also pledge a decent amount of BTC to help this community. There are a lot of people helping out, and it takes an entire community to make a coin successful. However, it was Troiste the made me and others take notice, and he got the ball rolling. Furthermore, I do not care what HardwarePal did in the past if he is posting info about another coin here. It is counterproductive and it shows he is not a true supporter of XLB. He is more than welcome to support whatever coin he desires, but he needs to refrain from posting about it here. Now lets get back to focusing on XLB. Any other childish FUD or non XLB related topics will be deleted. I will not lie I support multiple coins I openly say that in IRC. My initial thought was to get anon out as fast as possible as someone would jump onto this. I have access to the Libertycoin account but I rather use my account to post updates. Anything that I post should be taken as if it was coming from the official account. PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT When LibertyCoin gets to 0.01 BTC I will be personally paying out one escort for every single member that applies to this initiative! Send me a PM with the subject "escort" for you to be recorded in history Share this post with everyone you know! In other threads or forums, IRC, Facebook, Twitter, etc... But wait... If you share this post you will not only get 1 escort but 2 escorts for free! SHARE NOW! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600322.msg6856412#msg6856412 Lets celebrate the price 0.01 BTC in style ;D Lets show everybody who is the best coin of the world! LibertyCoin! The coin that even gives you a blow***! LibertyCoin 16 Million Supply POS 1% Anon soon Current price: $0.022 (Bargain) Trade: https://www.mintpal.com/market/XLB/BTC 27th May is the Liberty Day! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600322.msg6855773#msg6855773 The Libertycoin community raised 2 BTC and 100K XLB for someone to implement Darksend or any other Anonymizer to Libertycoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600322.0 Quote Libertycoin uses peer-to-peer technology to operate with no central authority or banks; managing transactions and the issuing of bitcoins is carried out collectively by the network. Libertycoin is open-source; its design is public, nobody owns or controls Bitcoin and everyone can take part. Through many of its unique properties, Libertycoin allows exciting uses that could not be covered by any previous payment system. from https://libertycoin.co/about/ You forgot to swap Bitcoin for Libertycoin mid text and should you really be claiming that Libertycoin allows for uses that no previous payment system covers? Obvious hatchet job is obvious. Similar issues w/ 'litecoin' on the paper wallet page: https://www.libertycoin.co/paperwallet/ I don't get the darksend talk as it's not even opensourced yet. A better option may be something like Fedora's coin mixing, which if I recall correctly, wasn't really decentralized... but it's better than nothing. Darksend is not decentralized either. They promise they'll make it decentralized but it's not yet. Fuck why didnt I read this message you sent me 4 days ago?? Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: thomastaylor on May 31, 2014, 02:25:32 AM So it is just another scam or not?
I can't believe it. Everything looked so serious. :( Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: JennySmith on May 31, 2014, 08:35:49 AM Crap! Crap! Crap!
That's why you'd better regularly visit the site... Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: platorin on June 01, 2014, 10:48:34 AM So it turned out to be a scam after all.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: Conqueror on June 01, 2014, 12:24:40 PM And what is worst...idiots are still buying this shit :(
Title: Re: IMPORTANT LIBERTYCOIN SCAM EXPOSED XLB Post by: HappyHogan on June 01, 2014, 12:46:47 PM And what is worst...idiots are still buying this shit :( Just like they're still buying Cinni or Whitecoin or Asicoinn, people make seriously strange decisions when it comes to crypto. And then even when the truth smacks them in the face, they're still going on about how cheap the coin is, its great potential, and how they love the active community (of like 30 people posting on reddit and bitcointalk). |
