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Could you add a step on how to image an sd card for an R3 please?

Another excellent guide by Dogie.

He / She / They are the go to people on forum for setting up your new miner.

Will that firmware update work for the rk-Box also? They are basicly the same 4 blades.

Woof!  S1 on steroids.  Great Job, nice camera abeit expensive camera.

Maybe, would take about 10 minutes to try if you've got an RK (which I don't), if we can track down an image file for this. I might have to rip one.


Will do if I can get an official copy of the SD card from somewhere. Cant find it on the repositories yet.

You wrote:

There's no way to route all of the wires through the end pieces?

dogie,

thanks for another great review. Any idea what the upgrades are compared to the rocket box? Seems by looking at the pictures they cleaned up the design a bit. Any other real world things?

Steve

Can we not use normal USB mini to usb cables or do we have to use USB-MCU cable to connect up the boards?

Nope, no other changes.

They have done something because these babies are tons more stable. No need to wait 1-2 hours to warm up. Straight out of the gate i am getting 490 - 500 gh/s on mine with no configuration. Simply plug and play. Here are some pictures:

http://www.batpic.com/images/2014/07/10/IMG3339.jpghttp://www.batpic.com/images/2014/07/10/IMG3341.jpg

http://www.batpic.com/images/2014/07/10/IMG3343.jpg

Screenshot of cgminer in webUI:

http://www.batpic.com/images/2014/07/10/Untitled.png

infact i think these will top 500+ GH no problem. This is the real Antminer S3 Killer right here!!!

Dogie, sorry i know my camera is not up to much but i had to share this!

Not if you want to use the onboard hub. Strictly the unit is already on its side as pictured, so its not really a problem at all. Look at the end pieces and where the screws are for the correct orientation and stacking.

I'm not sure, I can't see any reason why you couldn't use the mini to usb directly (not tried it) as that's all its doing anyway. You do need the little green standoff PCB though, it doesn't work directly to the mining card.

Look at your reject rate, you won't be getting that at the pool.

Can you clarify what you mean by Antminer S3 killer?

It doesn't mean anything at this point given the 10%+ rejects...

I'd be willing to bet the S3 doesn't have this problem when it's released and actual hashrates will be comparable.

Put it up on https://www.betmoose.com and see if there are any takers - sounds like a good bet to me!

Anyone know if the RK/R3 miners can be connected to a Windows PC via USB?
I guess it couldn't hurt to try eh?

Yes, they can.  There's info in one of the other rockminer threads...will dig it up for you when I get a minute.

Thanks mate, you rock! I have so much going on right now I am almost in system overload mode! ack :o :o :o

cgminer: https://github.com/rockminerinc/cgminer-for-R-BOX/blob/master/cgminer-win0.3.1.zip

params: cgminer.exe --icarus-options 115200:1:1 -o (pool) -u -p --rmu-freq=320

Awesome, thanks mate!

I was able to get MultiMiner to detect my RK-Box and it is hashing away (only 80 Gh/s per blade but I have yet to move my R-Box miners and test a higher FREQ-currently 290)

Either way, stoked to have the rocket-miner hashing in MultiMiner!

Maybe...

I left the R3 overnight and this is the speed i am getting:

http://www.batpic.com/images/2014/07/11/screenshot.jpg

Stable 515 GH/s! I expect the rejects rate drop further as well

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I am more interested in what the pool says it sees from this.  When the error rate is that high the pool tells you more about what the effect is on the number of shares you are getting.
For the cost difference over the Ant S3 the Rock R3 is going to need to be at 580+ Gh/s with 2-3% rejects to reach parity.  Assuming the S3 performs as advertised.  Although, even with that if your a bigger a miner you would have to consider the increased power draw of the R3 before slapping 10 on the shelves.

510 - 10% is 449 at the pool, which is what I'm seeing here.

  Just got my r3 rocketminer and trying to run it on windows 8. Devices list it as unknown and I cant get the zadig driver to load. Is there a different driver for this? I dont have a rpi.  Have 5 rbox 32 gh/s running on this computer, will they run together? Thanks

I cannot confirm Windows 8 but I have R-Box and RK-Box both running on Win7 x64, though they are hashing WAY lower than they should be (60Gh/s per blade currently  :'( )

The proper driver is available here...

CP210x USB to UART Bridge VCP Drivers
http://www.silabs.com/products/mcu/pages/usbtouartbridgevcpdrivers.aspx

 Thanks for the info. Are you using cgminer 4.4.1?

  OK, I got the 4 r3rockbox blades recognized and 5 rbox miners. When I start cgminer 4.4.1 they all come on and the rbox's get up to 30gh/s but the 4 r3 blades only show 6-10 gh/s and keep restarting, after about a minute cgminer closes. Now it wont start, unplug the r3rockbox and the 5 rbox's work fine. Don't know what to do...
  I dont have a clue what to do......

Actually I am using MultiMiner (www.multiminerapp.com)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=248173.0

I just heard Windows/CGMiner/RK,R3,R-Box miners DO NOT play well with the SiLabs drivers I linked

MultiMiner uses BFGMiner for the backend so the SiLabs drivers work great with MultiMiner but for CGMiner I was told to use the Zadig driver when using CGMiner/Windows combo

  Multiminer wouldn't find any rocks, just my ant s1's. Maybe have to remove zadig driver?

  I just ordered a Rpi.....

Yes, Zadig is for cgminer.
MM uses BFGMiner which uses the standard Sil Labs driver.

Can anyone confirm to us that the fan speed control on the R3 is working?

Small Video Rockminer R3-BOX Hashing 500++ Giga Hash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc5glg1g_K4
 ;D

Update:  Firmware upgrade instructions for r3 does work with rk-Box with pi. On my two units(each has a pi) I had to ssh with pi then exit, then ssh a second time to allow for update. The first time you ssh to pi a corrupted dadabase error comes up, but once you fully exit and go back in everything works fine and update is applied. You can now adjust freq's at bottom of pools page.

Someone who has one must be able to tell us!
Just pull the lan cable out of the pi (stops hashing) for 3-4min to see if the fan speed reduces

I can't seem to get it to save at full speed. Anyone else?

Hey,

Anyone tried this on a p2pool?

Would be curious to see results.


Cheers

Chris

Incompatible.

That sux...

Low hashrate or just not working?

Not working.

Any chance you will add a LINUX CGMINER COMPILE to this guide?

Do you mean raspbian based?

Yes, or just a simple linux whether arch/debian/ubuntu, that provides a solid miner in which there aren't issues following the instructions :(

I've tried configuring others through compile and I end up with icarus options not being enabled. I am sure there is many people who would prefer their own raspbi running whatever they want instead of forcing rock's webui to take over one pi

I'm pretty busy at the moment, and haven't as these come with their own Pi and OS. If you want to make your own CGminer, you can combine the noncetech guide with the cgminer part of the r-box guide, skipping over zadig.

Thanks for the set-up guide again, Just got my 2 miners up in minutes!
I am seeing alot of rejects rite now, I just updated the firmware Im hoping that helps.
Im also wondering what feq you are all set to, I cant seem to get up over 440gh/s on one machine.

430 is pretty standard due to the rejects at the moment. They need to fix it for us to go up.

Dogie, by any chance could I motivate you in creating some form of additional cooling to the R3 Box guide? :)

Maybe compiling a list of different types of heatsinks (purchased cheap) that can be applied all around the different things of the miner, such as mosfets, to provide additional cooling and possibly prolong the life of the unit?

Mosfets and vregs are designed to operate up to 125C so it won't make a difference. I'm also not a fan of adding hovering metal components to a PCB when not required (hence I never recommended 32 of them on the S1...).

What will make a difference is adding a 4 pin fan onto the other end to get rid of the huge temperature difference between the front and back boards. The header is split pin so you can't use any old fan.

After waking up to the rig running at 650gh/s and one bank of chips not showing any details I shut the entire system down. After the reset all is well and hashing higher then before. 

https://i.imgur.com/9VBKHfS.png?1
Freq 320M

indeed, the fan I agree with, the rest not so much.

Just because something is rated to 125C doesn't mean it performs at it's best or longest when pushed to the limits. These units don't have 2year warranty or even 1year warranty so my goal is not having to repair popped/melted/oozing capacitors or burnt mosfets. Same goes for using 1299w on a 1300w power supply. There is a reason people use good thermal adhesive ;) I wouldn't want a heatsink falling on my board creating some fireworks!

I do appreciate you responding I will just take the guide for what it is and keep the rest towards the community

Get yourself an infrared temp probe and have a look at some of the board temps. I'd be surprised if you saw components over 70C. In terms of failure rates, that's statistically insignificant compared to 50C. You're probably more likely to cause damage trying to mess with them then letting them do their own things. They will not be the source of your failure.

You are right, I should probably get a probe and see what is running the hottest so I can apply the proper heat sinks and proper adhesives.

Any chance you know of the safe/recommended/max temperatures of the chips themselves?

is there any way to check log files on the official pi image?

Not via the interface, which is so cut down that I doubt the ssh is going to be that usable.

Bummer I think Ill be making a new sd today with cgminer on it.

Anyone experience 3 blades hashing well but the other blade seems to be asleep>? I remember this was a problem with the Gridseed blade as well. Any suggestions are welcome.

Yea I just power everything down and restart that usually fixes it. I have been having more stability problems lately they seem to be getting worse. I have a pi on each unit and they crash a few times a day. I have not had the time to load cgminer on raspian but Im going to try tonight.

Unplugging the usb cable of the sleeping blade for a second helps to get them detected as well.

My R3 has been running for a while, and I have tried some different setups via Rockminer web. (Btw, is v0.94 the latest firmware?)

My stats: 469 GH/s average (about 430 GH/s poolside)
It's running at freq 320M with 8,15 % reject rate. At 300M the hash is a bit higher but the reject rate goes up to about 13% if I remember right.

Any suggestions for a better setup? Can I cut down the reject rate somehow?

.94 is the latest I've been using. 470 is a bit lower than 490 or so I'd expect, what PSU are you running? Reject rate of 8% is pretty standard, 13% isn't.

I'm using a Corsair CX750M. One blade is a bit slower, may be caused by the 6-pin extension, haven't tried to switch.

Any idea if i can ssh in through putty to do an web ui upgrade or do i have to move the Sd cards around again?

Instructions for SSH web UI upgrade are in the FAQ in OP, section 6.

Any improvement in the hash/reject rate ?

Not that I know of, no.

Hey Dogie, any inside news on the little 110gh machine that rockminer is releasing at the end of August that runs on an Xbox 360 PSU? I'm interested in this machine. Thanks.

Not that I know of, sorry.

Hey dogie, just thought i would say keep up the good work mate, you make life a bit easier for alot of people out there, and dont often get thanked for it, so cheers mate

Seperate issue, has any one else noticed that rockminers web interface has done nothing but remove information, there was a problem with HW errors so they removed that stat, and said it was fixed, then specific blades where outperforming others in terms of rejects, so they removed that stat, then the Rasp pi kept rebooting all the time so they removed the uptime clock, and said that was fixed, i personally think it a bit strange that they say our problem is fixed with the new images but we cant check and see because they remove the info related to the original problem, i would kike to make it clear at this point that even if i cant see it on there web interface, i know it is still happening, according to my pool stats nothing has changed at all over 3 image updates, any one else seeing this happening

What's the latest image you're using?

I used the upgrade.sh feature and am now on .94, i had the first image released for the rk-box though originally which has tons of info compared to what i am seeing now, i should also note i have 2 sporadic crashes over night, they are only momentary by the looks of it, but enough time to register on the charts, which has been the case since the originals, this is an issue with the pi or its software though as i have another smaller unit (just 2 rk blades) strapped together running on a computer, and they do great 2 percent rejects max around 240ghs average with no overclock and no random crashing, so i am going to assume (in my noobiness wisdom lol) that its something with the pi software being used, as the pi themselves are great little things

On .94 I still have reject rate and individual blade hash rates, can you show me a screenshot?

Yeah the total reject is still there up the top, but it used to have another box next to the hash rate of each blade telling you the HW and Reject rate for that individual blade, ill load up one of the old images i still have on my computer and show you a screen shot of it in a while, just sorting through some other stuff aswell trying to get some software to run correctly, but yeah all i can see is stuff being removed from the image so you cant see the problems, which i would once again like to point out are a problem with the software on the image, and not the miner as my computer runs them like champions
(dont want people thinking im bashing a perfectly good bit of hardware, its the half done software im having issues with lol)

@Dogie

Are you planning to test the T1 Box ?

Will do if I can get hold of a unit.

Got an R4 box, which came with the PI, but no image.
I tried to DL the image from the rockminer website, but it's corrupt when I try to unzip.
Im looking for an image for the PI to run this on.
Can anyone point me to a link?

DLing now to have a look.

Edit: Image looks fine?

Done. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758811.0)

I am having problems with the r3-box restarting very often and every 1-8hrs it hangs on restarting and just shows "cgminer is restarting" at the top in of the interface in red three times but it never does and just hangs and never starts mining again. Has anyone else had issues with this?

I found this when translating rockminers site:



nr. 1 is definitely not a problem, And if the sd card is corrupted should it  not be not mining at all?

Has anyone succesfully ran it on a windows pc with cgminer? (can you use a stock cgminer 4.5.0 (which supports r-box) or do you need their fork?) because then i could use cgwatcher to reboot when no shares are accepted or perhaps identify if the problem is in the miner itself or in the pi.....

That isn't true about the SD card corruption, sectors can have errors and it partially work. You can try running with 1 module for a while and see if you still get restarts. Monitor the temps before a restart.

Does anyone know where to find the Raspberry PI image for the Rockminer R4? I heard it's the same as the R3, but when I go to rockminer site it's all in Chinese, which I can't read so I don't know what im clicking on or downloading...

http://forum.rockminer.com/discussion/21/image-files-of-raspbeerypi-%E6%A0%91%E8%8E%93%E6%B4%BE%E9%95%9C%E5%83%8F%E6%96%87%E4%BB%B6-and-the-handbook-of-cgminer-version-for-rocket-box-%E6%93%8D%E4%BD%9C%E6%95%99%E7%A8%8B#latest

Just go to rockminer.com then downloads, I don't want to give you a direct link because it will sit here forever and eventually not be the latest one.

I managed to select the ZIP file, but not sure which button to press to start DL...
https://i.imgur.com/Scvnb7Q.png

You should be on sourceforge... http://sourceforge.net/projects/rockminer/files/RaspberryPi_Rockminer_Rocket_V1.3.0_192.168.1.254.zip/download

Thanks, that is much better. The rockminer website took me to the first link, all in Chinese, so that's why I was stuck on what to DL.
It would be nice to place a link to the sourceforge directory (not the specific file) in your guide.

Multiple attempts to download ZIP file on home and work machines always resulted in corrupt image.
Tried 2 different PI's, but couldn't get image to boot.
Then I tried to plug into a Windows host and made some progress, but it's still not correct.
While I don't see the USB device showing up in the list of available devices, the cgminer instance is telling me that it sees somthing out on the USB bus. It looks like maybe the incorrect driver, but not sure what driver I should be using.
Any suggestions on how to get cgminer to recognize and run the R4 miner?
https://i.imgur.com/iBAbhvP.png

Its even telling you, you need to Zadig it. Download zadig. http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/zadig/

I installed the driver, and it's working better now.
Each of the 4 blades is showing up, but at a much slower speed than anticipated.
Ive tried 2 different pools, but not making a difference.
This should be around 450GHs, but instead im getting:
https://i.imgur.com/38yJBKK.png

You need to update your cgminer. Use version 4.5.0 from the official cgminer website here:

http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/

Also it will be around 500 in my experience with the R4. What power supply are you using at the moment?

Ill try the new cgminer today. Just woke-up right now...
The PSU is a Seasonic X1050.
Neither the R4 nor the Seasonic are even getting warm. Staying quite cool due to low hashrate.
Another question. I have 2 drivers installed, one is for the CP2102, the other CP210x.

hmm...weird, that power supply sounds like it can more than handle the power requirements of the R4.
It really looks to me like it is being recognised only as a R-box, hence the 30+ gh/s speed.
What does your bat file look like? Do you mind posting it here, just to make sure there is nothing missing or wrong in that.


strange again, there is definitely something wrong with the configuration of the drivers or cgminer. Are these two drivers in the device manager. I would uninstall CP210x as this might be causing problems. Could you possible post a screenshot of your device manager please. Also when you open zadig and select list all devices, can you see 4 x CP2102 and do they all say WinUSB driver installed? I would uninstall all the drivers and start again from scratch. Also try it with cgminer 4.5.0.

Installed new cgminer, and it's working now aparently at full speed. I don't think there is any PSU issue currently. Still running cool.
Drivers: https://i.imgur.com/hYOmZPw.png
cgminer:https://i.imgur.com/B8VtxkG.png

Great! As your PSU is running cool, i would suggest setting your freq to 350, that should make the speed increase.

Add --rock-freq 350 to your batfile. Mine looks like this:

cgminer.exe --icarus-options 115200:1:1 --rock-freq 350 -o stratum.d7.lt:3333 -u iloveppcoin.2 -p 12345
pause

Ill try that in the morning... What are the icarus-options for? I don't have those in my bat file.

something to do with the chip. I was told to use it by ckolivas so throw it in. Like i said, every R4 i test has been between 480-520 so i will be surprised if yours can't go that high too.

The best frequencies in my opinion are 320 or 350

Be200 chips in this design are rated to 280 (250 is ideal for this chip) max on the frequency, anything more results in more HW and rejects than actual accepted shares, klintay has a stake though as owner operator of eyeboot (who resell these units) in making sure you all think these units can do over 500gh, go to rockminers official site, even they advertise them as 400-450 at max, and they provide alot more information about the units aswell, stop telling everyone to dangerously overclock there units klint, it doesnt matter to you as you will use the crap out of a unit and then sell to it some poor sap like me, but we actually plan on keeping and using the equipment so jacking up the freqency to 350 and the power consumption to 1200 watts and beyond is not a good idea people

And the icarus options are for CPU communication i think brother, i remember it having something to do with the CPU, the way these guys are set up they use a good bit of processing power from the controller to actually work, hence the icarus options added there, i think it is what was causing the problems with the rasp-pi controllers, cause they have very tiny cores
 

Hi dogie, i`ve just got a R4 and ive loaded up the latest cgminer for it but i can only get 1 blade working and the other 3 dont show up on cgminer, but they all have the right drivers in using zadig
please could you tell me where i have gone wrong
Many thanks mike

this is the start bat
cgminer.exe --icarus-options 115200:1:1 --rock-freq 350 -o stratum+tcp://stratum.f2pool.com:3333 -u 12345678.5 -p 12345

What LEDs are you getting on the individual boards? Are the mini usb cables definitely plugged in well from each board to the hub?

I'm getting a blue led on 1 of the boards and red led on other 3 boards.
Windows devices can see all 4 boards
is it possible to run the 4 boards onto a usb hub?