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Interesting stuff at

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2cd2u5/is_bitcoin_a_cia_project/

Interesting indeed. I think we've proven/provided lessons learned when it comes time for mainstream adoption  ;)

I'm sure they can neither confirm nor deny it.

seriously.. why post a reddit link made by you, that links to a website made by you which has an article made by you. which quotes opinions that are made by you.... you clearly have no reputation and you have no true understanding of bitcoin or the history.,

why are you wasting your time making these sock puppets and spreading FUD.

When Sol Adoni learns how to write without continual reference to himself, without repeating himself constantly, and without RANDOMLY capitalising WORDS,  I'll consider reading your....ooops...his articles.

I had never heard of this "famous" kook until you started spamming this forum with your endless sock-puppetry.


I remain unimpressed.

LOL.. But, the government has done other things to shoot itself in the foot, like creating TOR and making it open source. Im glad they did, but TOR has caused nothing but grief for the government.

Is CIA an altcoin?

Rambling and bordering on unreadable

No, it's a project of the freemasons. We're the puppets as usual  :D. I think all this conspiracy stuff is bullshit. It's in the people's nature to think there's more..

The general public don't have the kind of funding and insight to create something so great. Bitcoin sas to be a government project with deep pocket.

bitcoin does not need big funding, its started off as a voluntary project with random people across the world. now its funded via itself.. the coders get paid bitcoin.. and its the general public buying bitcoin from people that hold bitcoin, thus the general public are funding bitcoin..

I think the CIA have vest interested in bitcoin, if anything, the craziest theory was that it would eventually lead to having SHA -256 cracked. Anyhow, through BTC we found that the random generation is a MAJOR factor when it comes to generating the asymmetric keys.

I'm not saying I agree or that it's true... but it's a good thing to have an open mind.

Let's say this was their 'project'. It's ran wild for several years... enough time to per-fect the concept. If the goal is to create a world-wide currency, they know it works and we'd accept it. Let's say they're ready to implement. They don't have to take bitcoin - a new coin altogether can be developed, distributed and completely controlled by 'them'. No miners needed. But what about all the crypto floating around now? idk... maybe they'd make it illegal to mine/possess them, or even mandate ISPs to block mining packets. <--- that would be the end of crypto currency as we know it.  

Certainly seems easier than a duffel bag of fiat

You know in the early net usenet skeptics used to accuse SOLLOG of being A CIA PROJECT

haha

For years people said he like Satoshi, a made up person

I KNOW HIM and no, I'm not him, and he is a very smart guy, I know guys in his group that maintain his network of hundreds of sites and everyone of them says they were grilled by the FBI and Secret Service and whatever after 911.

HISTORIC FACT the guy nailed 911

So for him to be saying SPOOKS CREATED BITCOIN...

His ideas calling for public oversight of Bitcoin and it's core development and transaction fees is actually a great idea no matter what you think of him.

The fact is there's so much disinfo about him on the net, unless you have been following him and his 'prophecies' for years, you'll never get him.

FACT

STARGATE IS REAL

Some say he's ex Stargate

Some say he is think tank CIA all the way

Some actually say he's satan

FACT

He has legal status in the courts that they address him as GOD, since his beliefs are everyone is God. So most see that and say loon, crackpot, etc. So what he chooses to see energy/spirit that all have as the godhead.

So he's actually well-known and yet everyone that's related to Adoni Corp 3 steps removed is him, haha. Ok, whatever.

I do domain names, I'm not Sol Adoni nor Sollog or whatever you call him, I'm NOT the guy that posted this thread.

Yet you can all say oh that's him.

Actually there's probably 6 guys I KNOW right now somehow related to Adoni Co. on the same corp IP with different computers that actually post here.

ADONI CO is moving into bitcoin, and now the retired head of ADONI CO is saying harden the core, get some real experts to look at it for viruses and who the heck was Satoshi, was it Gavin or is Gavin a dupe for the CI freaking A.

Unless you're an OSTRICH you have heard how the CIA and varous arms of the government have been involved IN EVERYTHING.

Let's see the Bush cartel was in charge of the CIA in the early 80's when they were TRAINING and FUNDING Osama.

FACT

Contras FACT

LSD FACT

I've seen proof of a direct connection to Heavens Gate and the CIA his name is BOBBY RAY INMAN

Let's see THE NET, yep CIA project with the DOD

Stargate it was REAL PSYCHIC THINK TANK and some say Sollog is out of it

Commercial Internet and DOMIN NAMES, absolutely CIA, they did it through SAIC the California Company that sells toilet seats to the gov for 2K.

SAIC is CIA's backwards and look at its board EVERY GUY IS EX CIA

Let's see what did SAIC make BILLIONS on how about NETWORK SOLUTIONS their project

ABSOLUTE CONTROL of DOMAINS which I know very well from the start, they made mega billions on them and some of the keywords still owned BY SPOOKS.

So ignore his advice, he says the core is open to viruses, he says transaction fees need to be 2 cents to allow btc to be a real new currency for digital distribution of 10 cent song music, that means 5 Billion potential bitcoin wallets all over the world if Gavin gets the clues.

Anyway, you can jump up and down all you want, the man is brilliant and I'm not him and the other guys posting on an Adoni related IP is not him as well.

He plays golf and meditates as far as I know and he always has a gorgeous young chick with him or two or three.

Young chicks love his guru rap, I keep telling him his next book should be how to mesmerize 18 year old chicks.

WE LOVE YOU SOLLOG

LOL

The boys

No.

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That guy is a loser  :D

The all caps title steers me off right away, and at least add some proper discussion. Anyways, link to the direct article instead of reddit: http://soladoni.com/bitcoin-transaction-fees-problem/

Gavin Andresen was invited to speak to the CIA in 2011. I doubt they would be asking him for infos if they had already invented and successfully initiated public adoption of BTC. It is obvious that BTC will be very useful for CIA operations, seeing as their jurisdiction is OUTSIDE the USA and funds often need to be moved across boarders covertly.

The problem with just about every single conspiracy theory out there is this; If it is such top-secret high-level operations that are supposed to take place without public knowledge, how come the most whacked out, idiotic, poor, dumb hillbillies are the ones that always uncover the "real story"? You would think that the weakest link in the chain would be the very last to figure out this shit. I guess there is some sort of info leak that flows directly through every trailer park and welfare office in America. Chemtrails are bullshit too (its called jet fuel exhaust). Sorry, Sol Adoni, but your paranoid babbling is unreadable claptrap.  

If you think there are no conspiracies then you sir are younger than 12!
Me, personally, have been in several conspiracies;

I conspired with my sister, to not tell the other sister about XYZ.
I conspired with my friend to.... well.. I rather not say!
I conspired with my co-workers several times! Some involved people getting laid off and some were to cover-up some outages that was caused by my team.

my point is, everyone conspires. And if you think for a second, that rich and powerful Type-A men are not going to conspire to keep things the way it is, or even better for them, then you are OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MIND.

Cheers.

ps. and, "It's in the people's nature to think there's more", is such a crock of shit that I can smell that rancid crap through my monitor.

I'll leave this hear for who ever that wants to read it
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/25yhtn/my_worry_with_bitcoin_as_a_network_engineer/

Oh, STFU. REALLY?? REALLY?!?!?
go back to /r/conspiratard circle jerk! If you think there are no conspiracies then you have gone FULL retard!

I love this btw
"Gavin Andresen was invited to speak to the CIA in 2011. I doubt they would be asking him for infos if they had already invented and successfully"

OMG! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
you sir have to be the most gullible person ever!! How many Nigerian scams have you fallen for so far?

247bitcoinnews
domaindealers
ibitunes
soladoni
dr. adoni
adoni
banque
ibitdeals
ipoopbtc
ibitdomains

amongst other names

you are all the same person. now shut up creating your own FUD and learn the truth.

you have not convinced anyone of anything factual, you are simply wasting your own time and it is truly a waste of ours to even see your multiple names pop up. give it a rest you are accomplishing nothing more then masturbating your own ego.

Yes is CIA project to donate Julian Assange and wikileaks... :P

http://newsbtc.com/2014/07/31/wikileaks-remained-afloat-thanks-returns-bitcoin-investments/

http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i50/5/3/28/frabz-I-DIDNT-REALLY-HEAR-THE-QUESTION-But-the-answer-is-aliens-164a68.jpg

I wouldn't worry too much. As the govnt comes up with with ways to track and control us, WE the people will come up with better ways to sneak around it all. Remember when burnable CD's were almost the worst thing possible and they were going to destroy the music industry? lol

What drug did you use, lmfao. I meant conspiracies like "the usa is behind the mh17 tragedy, to blame russia for it all"

This is just another one and yes people do like to conspire, if you read my post correctly then you'll understand I said the same thing. And no, it's not crap, people DO like to think there's more. For example, famous actor Tyrese Gibson posted a wall painting of Einstein with a third eye in his office on FB. The most liked comment was "Illuminati". Tyrese later explained that people like Einstein were visionary and that was the reason for the third eye.

I was just thinking about this a couple days ago.  I'm sure this has been discussed to death but I think the chances of Satoshi working for the government in some form or fashion is more then likely.  I'd even suspect him of being into some form of espionage because he has made a major impact and managed to disappear without a trace.  This to me is the action of a extremely intelligent individual with advanced technical knowledge the average person doesn't have on average.

Seems to be the right place for this:

Rocket powered goat combat!

10 BTC gets you a seat on Satishi's spaceship when he returns.  :D

This is my favorite answer.  Bitcoin may very well be "Alien assistance".

I agree that this is nothing more then FUD. The protocol is open source so anyone can audit it and many people do audit it.

247bitcoinnewscom

seriously you have no clue. videos inside the bitcoin-core program...... writing in assembly? ,, you know assembly is mostly left for the microchips inside dishwashers and bios nowadays right... your "team" is just you and the experts you know is your left hand with a sock on it.. maybe having 2 eyes drawn on the sock in magic marker.

CIA?

No.

If there is government involvement in the beginning of bitcoin, it was more likely NSA.

I'm less and less convinced that Satoshi was a government codename and am more and more convinced that Satoshi was a single person.

Then the experts you know are morons.

Franky know nothing haha

let's see I downloaded the CORE ZIP file and it's filled with .ts files, you know what it is? plus some .png and the biggest file is a compiled .icns file

Aseembly runs the banking industry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transaction_Processing_Facility

Here's the bitcoin CORE zip files loaded with vids and images that are prone to viruses
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/releases

What you do franky?

I'm the guy that's gonna be running one of the new Adoni networks doing 10 cent music and ebook downloads

I know assembly, I know pretty much every major language used

Now what do you do besides spread DISINFO

Franky clueless that's our name for you

NSA has bright guys, CIA are thugs, drugs, murder, kidnapping

First release of bitcoin was a JOKE, a compiled windows exec

haha

CIA not NSA

CIA is the US Mafia they're not coders

NSA gets the bright guys

I hear this new site is about to release a huge CIA/BITCOIN expose

www.CIAproject.org

Should be a huge twitter account soon

https://twitter.com/cia_project

More likely that conspiracy theorists would attribute BTC to the New World Order than the CIA

Man the type off people that start believing these types of things. >>>>Their worlds are made up of conspiracies everything that happens that doesn't make sense MUST be a conspiracy.

Trust me not EVERYTHING is a conspiracy there are such things as "things that just happen" because of events , people , attitude  and motivation all line up perfectly in time and space which starts a thought that leads into action which leads into ........................

Bitcoin is not a CIA project
The reason is that Satoshi left when Gavin went to the CIA or around this period move to another anonymous position.
Second Satoshi didn't want to help in the Wikileaks incident since he was afraid that at that stage of Bitcoin it would be destroyed if it was a CIA project they wouldn't have went for it.

The world got lots of dept en they know they need to get rid of that. Bitcoin ore crypto in general woud be a nice back-door tool.

I will agree with this statement.
Anybody who took the time to read his posts can tell that.

Apart from that since a lot of you like conspiracies then let me lay down a scenario for you:

Satoshi worked for the Government (CIA or NSA doesn't matter), yet he didn't like what his job had him doing.
So, he decided to change the world by giving them monetary freedom and a technology that we can build upon.

Then Gavin just happens to go to the CIA -
The CIA likes the idea of Bitcoin - it actually gives them control over what is being spent by whom through the blockchain, and that is something they cannot do with cash.
They asked him who this Satoshi is and then threatened Gavin a bit and maybe Gavin made a deal with them (NOT SAYING THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED - just silly conspiracy theory).
Obviously since Satoshi worked for them, he knew that so he decided to "disappear" and he could do that efficiently because he knows how they work and he can monitor their progress.


Apart from my silly conspiracy theory above.

OP, if you want to gain a name for yourself in this community start by being honest.

If you want us to read your articles, then ask us nicely and we will read them and give you our opinion.
We do it with others anyway.
No need to pollute the forum with useless threads.
Something along the lines of: "Guys what do you think of my article? Be honest!"

This should be moved to the speculation section :)

hope this gets moved to speculation or trashcan as these sockpuppets are murdering the forum with fud and scams. and by the way mr sockpuppet banking systems are wrote in linux, not assembly. mostly things that dont require a GUI, such as washing machines and bios chips would be wrote in assembly.

They won't say anything unless really needed

if the CIA created crypto-currency, they would have invented it closed source and sold the patent to banks first, much like their sat-nav technology was sold to companies.

Definitely this.

Go and claim "Oh but the CIA didn't because they want you to think that" or whatever, but they wouldn't create something like this WITHOUT destroying all copies. According to conspiracy theorists, their "goal" is to be a single being with no competition.

So, wtf is up with all the competing coins?

I am really convinced that Satoshi was not a government entity, and they definitely wouldn't be letting Bitcoin run around as free as it is.Smoke weed erreday!

Btw, the cia project. org is a stupid search engine...

Yup, one possibility is that Bitcoin is a pilot project for a new digital global currency. A plan developed by powers above the CIA and the NSA etc.

My guess is that a regulated cryptocurrency will be introduced. The miners will not earn any money and instead the mining will be done as a public service by governments. And ordinary currencies will be exchanged for the worldcoin or what to call it, or NWOcoin lol, in a way that destroys an equal amount of the old currencies as is created in worldcoins. This will make the old fiat currencies gradually be converted into worldcoins.

Why? For what purpose? The reason is to introduce a global currency that will benefit the whole world and facilitate more efficient economies, all the way from local transactions to trade on a global scale.

Do you even know what Bitcoin is?  Do you know what miners do?  Do you know what the blockchain is, why we have one, the purpose it serves? Do you understand the difference between a centralized currency and a distributed one with no central authority?

Mining a centralized currency?  That serves no purpose and would just be a total waste of energy.  Having a blockchain for a centralized currency serves no purpose.

All they need is a giant distributed database of how much eMonney everyone has.  Oh, wait, that is exactly what they have already.

In what way would the worldcoin be centralized other than the standardization of the protocol? The worldcoin will be a decentralized peer-to-peer cryptocurrency, just like Bitcoin.

If it is "just like Bitcoin" then why not use Bitcoin?

In what specific ways would this new alt coin be different from Bitcoin?

I never trust articles with excessive use of capitals

Thanks CIA!!  ;)

Worldcoin will enable a smooth transition from fiat currencies. The base price for a worldcoin will be based on a basket of ordinary currencies making the price stable over time. With bitcoin there would be no destruction of the old currencies since the price mechanism is already established for bitcoin. And if bitcoin would be used then the tiny percentage of the world's population that owns today's bitcoins would become disproportionally super wealthy.

What? 

OK, say people really like NwoCoin and buy them like crazy, price goes up relative to all the other currencies, what then?  Or, if people hate them and do not buy them and the price goes way down relative to the other currencies, what then?

Or, are you suggesting that someone, somewhere, can control the supply of these NwoCoins in order to maintain the price?

Or, even better are you suggesting that people will be forced to turn in their old currencies and will be forced to use NwoCoins?

People will have the free-choice opportunity to convert their ordinary currencies into worldcoins. The base price of worldcoin is determined by a basket of ordinary currencies. As an example let's say that the starting price is $1 per worldcoin. Then regardless of demand the price of worldcoin will remain fairly stable since people will always be able to exchange their old currencies into worldcoins at the base price. Competing exchange services can offer better rates than the base price which acts as a stabilizing price limit guarantee.

you seen too many movies

There will be worldcoin miners all over the world operated by different governments. It will work just like Bitcoin, so for example a rogue nation will be unable to attack the network since they would have to make a fake copy of the block chain and outcompete the rest of the entire network of miners.

The only centralized control will be for issuing new worldcoins since there has to be an international authority that makes sure the old currencies get destroyed. Once the worldcoins are in circulation they will be completely decentralized and peer-to-peer, just like bitcoins.

This is true. CIA and "open source" is like an oxymoron

The CIA was totally taken by surprise by the 9/11 attacks. That's being one step behind. Those who designed the Bitcoin specification were more of a one step ahead group.

Bad article, bad website avoid at all costs.
No, Bitcoin is not a CIA project.

I dont always agree with Franky, but ..... nailed it.

-B-

im surprised this topic is 4 pages long, this OP of the topic seems to be on an ego trip trying to get sheeple to think he is worth listening to.

and bitburger, i dont mind people disagreeing with me at times, as its a good thing, its a sign that they are human and not sheeple.

I remember Solog from the Art Bell days in the '90s. Crazy stuff then and now.

+1000...

don't believe conspiracies like this one.
too many freak minds in our world' too many with the ability to make it sounds logical.

yea who use it for new stuff and do that again . he the strongest person i know

It's a conspiracy.

I have already put tape in my laptop camera, updated the antivirus and wrapped the router with aluminum foil (https://i.imgur.com/aD1hiye.jpg).

Just a thread for all these sig campaigns to get their post count up.

BITCOIN a CIA project? now that would be real stupid. unless your one of those trying to start rumors...  not likely my friend

I will just let this link here...

http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm

It does not matter who create it as long it is useful to everyone.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH.....HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
gaaaaaaawwwd

Interesting how they call it a coin as well. Not a "note" or a "bill"

( That being said, you'd have to be an asshole not to put tape on your laptop's camera )

 When you think about it "DARPA supported the evolution of the ARPANET (the first wide-area packet switching network), Packet Radio Network, Packet Satellite Network and ultimately, the Internet". 
 Don't forget that  "ARPA's mission was to ensure U.S. military technology be more sophisticated than(...)enemies." which means coming with the craziest and most unthinkable ideas to stay ahead of the ennemy.

So yeah why not, CIA doesn't give two shit about tech, it's an intelligence agency, and as far as Government Agencies goes, their relations can be pretty hermetic...
 Plus Bitcoin really sounds like a One World currency to me, tinfoil or not, it is.

Plus i don't buy this anonymous developer thing, i mean... I instincivly hate the idea that some guy could be so smart and so humble to come up with something as briliant and then stay anonymous, looks like pure fairytale to me.
 I'd like an exemple of something like that ever happened.

I mean, US government and military have been looking to solve this problem for + 15 Years, just take a look at this.

http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm

 I mean, these guys are among the smartests brains  in the world, they are litteraly thousands of them working their asses off to find solutions to this particular problem, at least one of them could have came up with the idea of a bit torrent style distributed ledger i mean come on.

Hahahaha!  :D

They came up with the idea, at a time, but didn't implement or use it because that would create too much transparency for all of the crooked dealings going on behind closed doors. It wasn't what they were looking for.

I, for one, believe Bitcoin was made by a single man. This man was also likely very libertarian, and as such, he made it public so that there would be accountability for everyone's actions. Not because he was in the CIA.

I also doubt the involvement of the CIA in this. However, the timing of Bitcoin's release and the name do sound suspicious, but those in no way are enough to convince me. Too many people would have been busted already, in some way, if the CIA was sitting there and watching what everyone was doing.

And, as stated, they wouldn't let there be other competing coins, and they probably would have sold the rights to some company.

ok ok, there is one conspiracy I'll give you. The Illuminati (Zionist lizard-hominids from outer space) created YOU as a their tool to go around spreading nonsense and making the very idea of conspiracy theory look outlandish, thus discrediting anything that does not feed the agenda of our overlords. You are a "Pink Partisan" sir, as well as a donkey.

P.S. David Icke called and he wants his racist bias back.

Haha,as ridiculous as it sounds, I'm now not going to dismiss this as a possibility entirely. I remember a few years back when some conspiracy theorists told everyone that our electronic devices were being used to spy on us. Everyone laughed at them and called them nutjobs who should remove their tinfoil hats. They were actually correct and no one would have even know the extent that we were being spied on by our own government if we didn't have Snowden. So,yeah,who knows?

What if Snowden is a paid shill/tinfoil hat conspiracy to fool us into thinking the 'evil' Gov't has the power to spy on us with "insanely powerful electronic devices"?  :o

It's possible, and anyone who says that it's not possible is full of shit.

When was he invited to speak to the CIA? Is there an article/link you can show me? Not doubting you, I'm just interested.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gavin+cia+site%3Abitcointalk.org (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gavin+cia+site%3Abitcointalk.org)

Who knows, somethings are better unspoken.

if it is, thank you CIA  8)

Oh no, another sock puppet account for John Patrick Ennis. At least this one isnt just spamming your spamdex farm urls, so thank you for that. That FACT, above, is demonstrably pure bullshit again though.

http://casetext.com/case/maus-v-ennis-14#.U99goZ79Gz0
"On December 21, 2010, Maus initiated a civil action against Ennis, and Ornstein later joined as a plaintiff. Subsequently, Ennis, proceeding pro se, filed a motion, requesting that the court require all parties to address him by his religious names. The district court denied the motion."

https://casetext.com/case/maus-v-ennis-5
"In his motion, the Defendant refers to himself as "The Honorable Dr. Rabbi Sollog Immanuel Adonai-Adoni aka GOD known as John Patrick Ennis in this action" and states that "anyone calling the defendant John Patrick Ennis is insulting the defendant and also insulting thousands of members around the world whom belong to The Nation and Temple of `Hayah, the religious organization for which the defendant is the Chief Justice of the Supreme Counsel of the Nation and the Temple of `Hayah." (Doc. 12 at 1). Absent some indication as to why it would be insulting to refer to the Defendant by what is apparently his given name, the Court will continue to do so."

And just as an indication as to what sort of person this is:
http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca11/12-13802/12-13802-2013-03-27.html
"Specifically, Ennis had exhibited conduct that was “reprehensible,” and he had “acted intentionally, in bad faith, and for oppressive reasons.”"

WOW this was DIFFICULT to read. I only made it HALFWAY before THROWING IN the towelie.

Well researched article, puts out little known info about the inner group in control of bitcoin.

a. satoshi main figure no one admits to knowing
b. gavin andresen takes control in 2012 of the core and sets policy such as fees
c. gavin now public figurehead of bitcoin an alleged decentralized currency that has complete centralized control, definitely smells like an intelligence project.

So either Gavin is delusional and created 'satoshi' and curbed him in the 2012 public spat as the article says, freeing bitcoin from the 'mystery' of who is satoshi, really Gavin, or Gavin is the public dupe as the article puts forth being the new public face of a CIA project where no one has ever seen Satoshi.

Sounds like a spy book not real life, but that is the 'history' of Bitcoin that is now valued at 8 Billion dollars.

So Satoshi is the creation of either Gavin or the CIA.

Or you can just buy the 'story' of Satoshi a guy no one ever seen in person, that's a CIA textbook project to some.

But overall, the articles writer suggests the actual Bitcoin idea is pretty good and with some public over sight groups as to public discussion by major programmers as to the actual core now in control of Gavin makes 100% sense to anyone with a financial interest in Bitcoin. You can't have it's core controlled by so few people as it is now controlled.

The whole thing reeks of Plausible deniability for the CIA if they created Satoshi.

If the CIA/NSA or Mossad created Bitcoin, then nothing can stop Bitcoin from prevailing. It's the biggest possible buy signal.

True!

That being said:

I do believe that the CIA is a Bitcoin project....
We have to hard fork and get them out of the blockchain immediately   :P

This has no evidence to back this theory.

Gavin wasn't introduced to BTC in 2010/2011, and the white paper was created by a "Satoshi Nakamoto".

Anyone can say that the identity of someone who hasn't come public is a creation of them, it could very well be a power grab.
A textbook story would be "Yoink! You're ours now." Oh, I'm sorry, someone no-one has seen just disappearing? Amelia Earheart is part of a CIA conspiracy according to that logic.

On the core comment; you have no idea what you're talking about.

If you can go control the core, people will see it. Code is open source for a reason, and I have a feeling several dozen people would have already picked it out and shown it to the community (WITH proof) as to how the core is controlled by a single point.

Oh, you mean he can control the blockchain? Good luck with that.

It is decentralized very literally. You can't just control it.

It may be a CIA creation, but they've left themselves unable to control what happens to it. They can't control it, only be like "Ha, we made that." But at the same time, they couldn't prove it.

I might be an agnostic member now, I can't prove Bitcoin isn't a CIA project, but I can't prove it isn't either. I won't be letting this affect my future ideas, that's just what I'll be for a little while.

That is because it is a hypothetical conversation and mostly pure speculation on a matter that leaves many unanswered questions.  Nobody and prove anything and some posts are just fud.

I am not sure when he was invited, but IIRC he actually spoke to the CIA right around the time that Satochi stopped being part of the Bitcoin project.

I would seriously doubt that Bitcoin is a CIA project as the protocol is open source and no one has made any specific accusations about the source code that the CIA could somehow use to their advantage. 

How can you think BTC is CIA project  ???
that's true there are no proof BTC is created/not by CIA

if that's true and CIA announcement it, will BTC price went up ?
i think somehow will down

Yeah, it will go down.

Also, I wouldn't recommend using beige as a color, I can't see it on my screen. Others probably can't see it as well, but that's just me.

It'll go down because people will no longer see it as an anonymous source of value, and think of it like regular electronic money. And, since anonymity is lost, then transactions will go down, because not everything on the internet is used for legal purchases. Or some people just don't want it to be seen.

Puppets? I don't think so. The problem is we have been led to believe there is more.

Well also if Satoshi was working with the CIA regulation would be much more easier lol.
Pretty much Satoshi knew where this was going and decided he didn't want to work out all those regulatory kinks in 2011 before this began lol.

This is one thing i love about anything to do with cryptography or encryption, tinfoil hats will come out of the woodwork and post interesting (albeit funny) things like this.

Thank you CIA  ;D

~ https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21  ::)

LOL.. yea mmmkay

This would not be true if the CIA did not tell others of their involvement. In theory the CIA could be trying to track criminals and terrorists when they convert their bitcoin into fiat via AML regulations.

I would however doubt this as it gives criminals and terrorists too many opportunities to do bad things.

So you are saying that Snowden is 'legit' and everything (or almost everything) he says is true?

Thing is, everyone here says CIA/Government would make something to use to their advantage, what if they simply made it for the future? They open-sourced it so that more people could improve upon it and make the currencies of the future..

How would having "the currency of the future" help in any way the CIA or the government? If anything it would hurt it as it will ultimately lead to less tax revenue.

As other users have pointed out. BTC already has regulation and will be gaining far more, especially strict ones in New York atm. Exchanges will be regulated further and already have been, and the government knows this.

There are already programs that can/will be able to track all the addresses of the bitcoin blockchain and what addresses send what to which address etc, like a tree. Then once bitcoins are sent to a known exchange address(since exchanges will be regulated), then they will know who is behind the address, so leading to less tax revenue might happen at first, but later on it wont.

with regard to tax...it works with fiat because it is nationalized.... i see no true viable means of taxing bitcoin because it is global. even U.S citizens can open an account with an offshore exchange.. how then will the gov know about these activities?

STOP THE QUOTE PYRAMID
This is exactly what I'm thinking.

Bitcoin is really based around liberty, and taxes and such don't exactly fit with the state's plans, or most conspiracies, so there are issues with Bitcoin being even considerable as a CIA project.

obviously yes.

the cia created bitcoin for free hashing power to crack a secret crypto used by non friendly nations.

There was actually another news article posted about this recently...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/bitcoin-suspected-nsa-cia-project-080715070.html#vcgTvqc

In there it states that Nakamoto translates to "Central Intelligence" in Japanese...


People are able to come up with conspiracies about anything...

This is the same badly written piece of junk discussed in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731321.0;all

The CIA Project, referred to as a group, is actually one man who likes to pretend he has followers. See the member count at the bottom of this page:

http://www.ciaproject.org/forum/

He has been busy with similar deceit on this forum lately under the username "adoni" and several others.


As for the "journalist" of the above article, I can't decide if he's really that bad at his job, or if he's been paid to spout this garbage. Whichever, he should be ashamed, and probably fired.

Spook1:  what name should we use to publish this paper?
Spook2:  what if we translate CIA into Japanese?
Spook1:  that would be funny, OK let's do it.

That is what is proposed?   ::)

Yeh and then getting the whole translation wrong in the process, as satoshi nakamoto does not mean Central Intelligence agency.. lol I cannot believe this topic is still active around... dam trolls are everywhere

3 threads on the front page of the forum, talking about the CIA BS--- 1 was deleted. Now 2 are left!.. arghh

Yeah, it doesn't look very well researched at all. Those conspiracy theories are most likely bogus. I don't even get why they would want to do such a project that could potentially enable people to anonymously transact money! If they wanted to spy on you, this doesn't make sense!

This would make sense except that SHA-256 is not very good for keeping what you are saying secret, but rather to ensure that what is said was in fact said by a certain person. If the another country used this type of encryption then it would be very easy to tell what is being said.

There should really be restrictions on who can use the Internet.

Whoever believes these things that are so obviously made by him - deserves to be in the C.I.A.

He's a rambling mad-man, mates, conspiracy theories. Bitcoin is so obviously created by the Iluminatiests and Anonymoose. 

Add to this.

Bitcoin is great for transferring wealth across the world, but not so great at being covert. All transactions are public. I doubt the CIA would have designed Bitcoin, because it's actually not so useful for them.

The only way the CIA developed Bitcoin was if they wanted an anonymous system, and put Bitcoin out there to see who could take it and build an anonymous version, I highly doubt that though.

Yep I think so, a way to make a global currency. What better way than this, pretend that some 200 IQ guy comes up with the idea of the centrury and make it grow slowly. After a decennium  it's could be used for everything.

I can't see why they would create something like this, but if they did why would they release it in such a fashion. I cant see how they would benefit them. It could even threaten them to be fair.

You're making the mistake that the entire US Government is one entity and has one goal.

The NSA and CIA operate almost always for their own independent gains regardless of the fallout.

I don't think that the CIA had any involvement in Bitcoin, but if it turns out they did, I wouldn't be surprised, it's a system that could help them more than harm them.

Well If they created it and had a very large amount of coins in their control they would have the ability to manipulate the market in the favor.  This is the kind of think people who use Bitcoin try to avoid and would put peoples investments in jeopardy if you ask me.  I just don't think this is the case at all I just like the speculation on the possibility.

This thread is still alive.   The article tries to state that threads with themes like this get removed from the forums.  I have no doubt that there are government workers that troll these forums, but I don't think they actively try and get things removed...I think they just read what people are saying and see if they think there is anyone they need to keep a closer eye on...

There were not any BTC that was premined. All of the coins that were ever mined and all the coins that were ever transferred are publicly viable on the blockchain. AFAIK there is not any evidence of any of this.

Why there are so many themes about CIA and BTC? ???

Yeah, I fell for that awhile back apparently Bitcoin wasn't pre-mined at all, another crappy lie spread by somebody, I think Satoshi did mine the genesis block but that's it.

That was probably just fud spread by someone, not to mention satoshi hasn't even spent his coins so it's silly to even say it was premined.

While I don't think that bitcoin has to do anything with CIA, there is possibility of some government influence in that project. But we can't be sure and I bet it is too big now and to hard to control for whoever who put in motion. All I know for sure that Facebook has connection with CIA and it is proven fact.

Well sure there's a possibility, but I don't think it's likely. Maybe the people behind it have worked for the government before, but I doubt bitcoin was anything to do with them. and besides, bitcoin isn't something they could control on a whim anyway.