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I was banned for 10 days for 'trolling/spamming' for posting the following articles in politics and society:

http://themindunleashed.org/2013/12/36-foods-help-detox-cleanse-entire-body.html
http://earthweareone.com/stanford-scientists-observe-man-travel-out-of-his-body-and-into-space-what-he-saw-was-remarkable/
http://earthweareone.com/new-study-shows-cannabis-does-not-lower-iq-but-drinking-alcohol-does/
http://wakeup-world.com/2012/10/05/eight-ingredients-you-never-want-to-see-on-your-nutrition-label

I think these are the links I posted.

I would like to know why I was banned for presenting informative articles with a link to the source in each one.

At this point it seems to be a form of censorship, directly or not.

I would like to continue posting these articles.  If you feel that they're in the wrong category, you're welcome to move them to a more appropriating category.  I do not see freely speaking of validated, sourced articles on a discussion board as a misuse of the community.

I would appreciate a response addressing the concerns provided.

You were caught scamming ;D Remember

Considering users don't get banned for scamming, that's not the reason.

I was not caught scamming.  Jesus, even squall said he didn't think it was intentional.

This was directly after I posted the articles, within 2 minutes.

Were the posts deleted? I reviewed your posting history and don't see any articles posted in the last 2 pages of your posts.

Yes they were deleted after minutes.

One article is almost a year old, while another is ~2 years old, and the others are more recent, although I don't think there is any real rule agains posing "aged" information like that.

I would wait for BadBear to respond, as he tends to be pretty fair and should be able to give an explanation.

You know why you were banned - copyright theft. (Fitting crime for a thief.)  I reported all of those posts.

You cannot copy and paste an entire article, even if you post a link back to it.

If you want to post your garbage, post one or two paragraphs, and a link back to the original.  Can't guarantee you won't get banned again though, since your posts never contribute anything to the community.   :-\

That was not the reason I was given for the ban.

And posting articles is not copyright theft, are you fucking serious?

People post articles all the time.  And the people that write those articles do so for them to be spread.  When you just post a link to an article, people complain that it's not included in the post.

I want a valid reason from a moderator or admin, last I checked you were neither vod.

I even included the article within a quote bracket.

What you're saying is equivalent to saying quoting people is okay but quoting their entire statement is not.

This is nothing short of censorship, and whichever mod did so gave vod discretion to influence a ban.

What would happen if I flagged vod's shill posts as trolling?  Not shit.

As long as I don't copy/paste an entire article, committing copyright theft, why would they delete it?

Grow up idiot and stop stealing people's work.

You asked a question - I answered it.

It would be looked into. Trolling is against the rules, however it is something that is very difficult to investigate and moderate.

IMO what vod does is not trolling, he is simply voicing his concerns and opinions, that happen to be contrary to most scammers

The underlying reason for your ban was because of your greed.

Greed for attention.

You will never experience the ecstasy of true ego death at this rate, not while trapped in your endless cycle of greed.

Because your posts weren't related to your debt default.
Nothing else matters anymore.

Why not start a thread entitled "My serious plan to man-up and pay my debts instead of burying my head in the sand."?

I guarantee that one won't be censored or banned.

This is blatant horseshit.

Awaiting response from moderator or admin.  Who banned me anyways?

Mods will very rarely comment on the specifics of why you were banned and even more rarely will advise as to who issued the ban to prevent harassment from people that they banned.

I think if you want an answer then you should act as diplomatically as possible to show that you will not harass him once he reveals his "identity"

It always depends on the copyright restrictions and the intended use.

Well in dank's case he was just spamming entire articles with *zero* input of his own.  He doesn't contribute to this community at all.

I don't have any beef with dank. I think a lot of what he says is a little bit off the wall sometimes and has made some mistakes in the past (taking out the loan from scqual). I do however think that he has good intentions and is trying to make an effort to contribute to the community. I think he should be given the benefit of the doubt

You are misguided.  dank has the money to pay squall partially back, but he refuses to do it.

Squall already gave him the benefit of the doubt and made a payment arrangement.  dank kept his word for a few payments then stopped paying altogether.

You want us to give a known thief a THIRD chance?   ::)

Do you know for sure that he has the money to pay back squall? If he does then he certainly should, however unless dank can give proof that he has the money to repay him, then I would personally think that he does not have the means to repay.

Either way I am not talking about trusting him with your money - I think he is should have the trust that he has and I think anyone trading with him should make sure that he sends funds to escrow first (although I don't think he tries to "trade" very much/at all) and I would never lend to him - I am talking about him contributing to the community via discussion. I think he is trying to add to various discussions and to spark thought throughout the community. I don't think he is trying to troll or to create drama.

Absolutely.  He posts videos of him riding around on a motorcycle.  He also claims he has expensive sound gear.

He can't legally ride the motorcycle - no license, no registration, no insurance.  One day he will injure someone and they will be SOL because dank has no insurance.

He has no place to go on his motorcycle - too lazy to get a job.

Why doesn't he sell his items and pay back squall like he said he would?

To be clear I am not defending his behavior from a business standpoint. I am saying that he still deserves to be treated with respect. If his motorcycle is in fact his then yes he should probably sell it in order to repay his debt. If he is treated with more respect then he is given here, then I personally think the chances of him making additional payments will be greater (I am not saying that lack of respect means that he has a valid reason not to repay, I am saying that once a  default happens a borrower needs to be given an appropriate level of respect, especially when payment has not been made after this long.

I personally have a job and work hard for my money (at least I would like to think I do), and as a result I do not have creditors breathing down my back all the time and can spend a little bit of money on luxuries every now and then. This is a choice that I have made. If dank chooses not to work for money, then he will not have these benefits in his life and this is his choice.

He has lied so many times his word means nothing.  I can't respect someone like that.  Sorry new guy, but I'll have to disagree with you.

That is fair enough. I think that everyone deserves some level of respect, but I can agree to disagree

I'd really like to see a mod commenting on this, because I highly doubt that a user posting an article on a public forum is considered as copyright theft. Can we actually get banned here for quoting an article?

No.

Thanks. That's a relief.  :)

but might get you in trouble if people think you are using bots.


Don't know about copyright issues too.

It should be more then obvious if you are using a bot to post. Also using a bot in itself it not necessarily a problem as long as the content posted is useful.

For example ChartBuddy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=110685) automatically posts a graphic of the price and market depth of bitcoin; and Actor_Tom_Truong (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=79689) posts many articles that may be of interest to people in the politics/society section (although I am not 100% sure this is automated)

Dank posted four garbage posts in a row - consisting of copyright theft on all four - stealing the entire article without care for the author's income.  He could have been botting I guess.  I reported each post as "Copyright theft" and a short description of why it was illegal.  Dank then stopped posting.  I assumed it was because of my reports, but I guess I was wrong.   :-\

Maybe dank could write this banning event in his eagerly awaited book; "Dank, my tales of persecution." :D

Denial just confirms your delusions.
Fight your greed dank, then perhaps one day you can experience ego death.

In my opinion, there is little wisdom in pointing out the splinter in your brother's eye instead of giving careful attention to the beam in your own.

He'll need to buy his soul back before he can do that.  I experience ego death often, and I've never seen him there.

Well I thought I was very greedy when I started here (hence my avatar), until I meant dank, now I realise how overestimated I was. Dank's on a level I never thought existed. I think it's a little bigger than a just a tiny splinter.
I'm not going to change my avatar as it's what I'm know by on here and gets recognised.


Yes he gave away his soul, but what I think has happened is a demon has entered the void left by his missing soul. The only way out is to buy back his soul, in other words, pay back his debt.
I don't think dank is a bad person, but he is now under control of the demon. This would explain the daemon telling him not to get a job, it will do everything in its power to trick dank into not doing so.

Wow, I thought I had problems.  :o

It is not in my nature to harass people, my nature is to forgive.  I just want to be respected as the equal human being I am.

Anonymous bans with no communication from the parties involved is highly reminiscent of oligarchies.  This community is just validating the idea of the community and bitcoin currency being managed by a small few with copious amounts of bitcoin.

And the pattern repeats.  Greed taints the mind.  Let us not walk down the same path as we have countless times through history to no avail.

I would just like to be given a response so I know which parameters I broke so I wont do it again.

The fact that the only notification I was given from another member was a one-way private message from vod does not sit well with me, considering the threads were deleted after two minutes and he somehow has the knowledge to claim I was banned for copyright infringements.  Which is a bogus claim regardless.

You are not an equal human being.

You are a thief and you are a liar.  You have no soul.  It is disrespectful for you to call that equal to real men.

Every time you say this, I ask you to point to one lie.

And each time you take a statement and viciously twist and dement the words then completely disregard my response which nullifies your weak skew of a lie.

This is history repeating.  Einstein may call such insanity.

Your posts lack substance vod.  I could post 100 peer reviewed medical studies on the benefits of cannabis and psychedelics and your response would be within the context of "you're a scammer" or god knows what.  Ffs, you tried calling me a pedophile, like wtf?  That's stepping over the boundary sir.

Try to speak of something a little more intelligent than attacking with labels and judgments.  That's what kids do in elementary school.  Calling names is just a clear indication you lost the debate.

And I do so over and over.  You posted your debt was on squall's terms.  That was a lie, because you choose to be greedy and keep his money, instead of selling your motorcycle and paying him back.


Squall wants his coins dank!  Sell your motorcycle dank!

I'm on a 50 dollar android, I'm not using bots, just sharing information I find of value.  I made four posts in a row because I am rarely able to spend much time on here, so I did them all when I had the time.


Oh yeah, the CIA monitoring a man leave his body and fly into space, no big deal.

Enlighten me vod, if I seek to pay back squall completely, how am I to do so if I lose all means of doing so?

He will get what is his.  Patience is a virtue.  In the end it will have been fulfilled quicker than if I was working a 9-5 job for several years.

Won't be long for me to become a rockstar when I can get a guitar in my hands again.  The amount I have evolved since the last time I jammed is nothing short of exponential.

Sell your motorbike dank.  You are able to do so.   ::)

Until you do and regain your soul, don't you dare call yourself equal to honest men.  

And the last page was pretty great, two shills, buf and vod having a shit talking 'conversation' just like they were doing two years ago in 2012.

Man you two sure have wasted a lot of energy attempting something that was futile before it began.  You cant kill love.  You can kill ego.

You know nothing of soul retrieval.  Focus on your own life vod.  How can one speak forth in the essence of inequity so bluntly?  Who are you to call some less equal?  We are all one, we are all equal.

I know you gave your soul to squall.  I have a soul, and that makes me better than you.  You are not equal to us.

Isn't it interesting dank doesn't like it when his questions aren't answered. What's wrong? Don't like the taste of your own medicine? :D


Nothing wrong with dreams and aspirations, but maybe you've set your sights a little high on this one.
So out of the millions of others that want to be rockstars, what's your angle? What's your niche? What can you do that the next man in line cannot? Do you have the 'X' factor?

Your chances are slim as you have so much competition. But don't let that put you off trying of course, but as long as your prepared for near certain failure, that's fine. Obviously you have a backup plan in place if this doesn't work out for you. What's your backup plan?


In a ideal world maybe, but in the real world it just doesn't work like that at all.
For example on here a person with a scammer tag is never going to be equal to another person without one. This is just obvious common sense.

This is the best thing I will read all day :D

One that says "I have a soul and that makes me better than you" is not speaking from the soul.

That's rather a narcissistic thing to say.


The world's problems are comprised by the greed of the prideful whom view themselves of supreme importance over others.  Supremacy is what creates racism, tyranny and the problems many face in this world today.

Yet no matter how much your ego worships your facade, in the end, you are still a particle amongst a infinite sea of particles.

I will be a rockstar because I believe in myself.  That is all it takes, you are only limited by your own beliefs.  And I have a message of interest to many.

Go to my sound cloud and listen to rec6 and tell me you've ever heard guitar like that before.  I'm still scraping the surface compared to how much I have to grow musically.

Well I genuinely wish you luck. But what can you do that the millions of others wannbe rockstars that also believe in themselves, whom you will be ruthlessly competing against, cannot do?

I'll take a listen later, but I'm a poor choice of judge as I know nothing about music.

I will be able to channel other musicians at the music festival for one.  And I will levitate at the end,  which I've already done to some extent, multiple times.

And I bare the knowledge of extradimensional evolution and ascension.  I'm already undergoing the process of ascension myself, I can often see dreams before falling asleep.  Once fully enlightened, there's not much more to it, as I can practice perfectly in my dreams and replicate it in life as I will retain consciousness through the night.  And I've seen me shred in my dreams, I know where it's headed.
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Plus the hippie movement is rekindling and about to spark up a massive flame.  This puts me in a good position with the psychedelic style I play.  It's unique to say the least.

Ultimately, I know I will succeed because I believe I will.

And yet you fail to offer proof of this.

Note: It is actually possible to levitate...using advanced technology, and even then the hovering is about an inch off the ground on certain surfaces when you have a person on top of the board. I doubt that when you sit in the lotus position with your fingers crossed your...ahem...buttocks turn into 4 disc engines that allow you to levitate.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29691654

You see, I tried to have a sensible conversation and we ended back at this nonsense.

That's probably what he was banned for.

Yes and it's also possible usinaturalng consciousness.  Technology is but a replication of natural processes.  We each have an aura,  a magnetic field.   Learn to alter it and there is little you can't do.

You said the same thing about your bank.
You said the same thing about your Hookah lounge.
You said the same thing about your 2012 concert.
You said the same thing about your walk west.
You said the same thing about your coin.

(What have I missed?)

In the end, you always fail, as a soulless person must.   I know you will fail cause I believe you will fail.  :-\


It will just take a couple days and he'll be back to spamming the Politics forum.  

Me playing guitar doesn't rely on any one else, as all that you listed did.

Perhaps it's possible I would have had that hookah lounge had you, buffer and rarity not been shilling the lights out of me.  Doesn't take a genius to tell a hookah lounge in a city of 8 colleges with a student population of 100,000+ students would do well, considering it would be the only hookah lounge within 45 minutes of the area.

But carry on vod, keep on judging and doubting, all you're doing is showing the world your real character.  The world is awakening vod, and not a thing you can say can stop people from learning the facts and finding the truth.  The only one you're holding down is yourself.

Oh I see, it's everybody's else's fault your in the situation your in now.

Delusional.

Oh gawd. Some things never change, do they...

Please teach us how you turn your, ahem, ass into something capable of having a large magnetic field.

It is the only valid theoretical explanation for the mechanism behind consciousness being efficient enough to work as it does.

http://www.atmanprinciple.com/the-science-of-m-state-elements/
http://www.quantumconsciousness.org/
http://tesla3.com/free_websites/ormus_science.html

Um, it requires other people to like it and attend the concert, doesn't it?

Also, how does walking west rely on other people, fool?

After three years of promoting your guitar you have less than a handful of followers.  How is that going to turn into a million man concert?  It relies on other people.

You are delusional with no soul to steer you straight.  Nothing will ever happen for you until you pay your debt.

hey guys

hows the hookah bar doing?

http://youtu.be/QXfoQlo354s

Dank simply didn't believe enough. Either that or "Monster-Ant's" post shot that half-baked idea down in flames.


I just realised I never even posted on that infamous hookah thread. Still getting the blame though. :D

nothing ever changes.

They sure don't.  How many visits to the psych ward have you had this year, dank?

None. He accused those of trying to help him of shrinking his brain. Dank knows better than trained professionals.

Did I place any fault?  The situation I am in is perfect.

How can it be perfect?  You have no soul and you owe $10,000 to someone else.

 ???

Wow, way to resurrect the old shills.

Dank, did you know someone made a tool to track how much you've paid back? lol

http://65.26.252.225/hdpsby/

Because I am still capable of bringing world peace.  If only I was given a chance.

The amount that dank owes to squall is so great because squall made a bitcoin loan to Dank when the price was very low, and the price eventually skyrocketed. The fiat value of the bitcoin that dank borrowed from squall at the time the bitcoin was originally sent to him was ~$800.

Has squall indicated that he would be willing to accept a smaller amount in order to settle his debts?

We're giving you a chance, but you have to believe in yourself.

You have to sell the motorbike and pay back squall.

If this is the truth let's hear you thank vod etc... for their endless selfless efforts of stopping the hookha lounge happening. Because everything is perfect right? You can stop begging for money now.


Teacher "What do you want to be when you grow up Billy?"
Billy "I want to be a fireman Sir."
Teacher "How about you Suzie?"
Suzie "I want to travel and help people in poor countries."
Teacher "Your turn next Dank. How about you?"
Dank "My dream is to become a delusional, bankrupt, homeless, jobless bum Sir."

Yes, if you say so dank. :D

4.2943% repaid. Glad dank's taking it seriously.


There really is no point. Dank has made it more than clear he doesn't intend to pay anymore back. Spending money on drugs is more important to him.
There is no point dank still being a member of this forum.

Dank will repay squall with enlightenment and music that will bring peace. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlujizeNNQM)

If I had to repay $10,000 from a $800 loan then I would most likely not attempt to repay, and I think most people are the same way. This is especially true considering that dank probably sold the bitcoin he borrowed and did not plan on earning in terms of bitcoin but in terms of fiat.

Yes the 52 BTC that was lent would be worth a lot more then $10,000 now but asking for that much back is simply not realistic. I think he would make an attempt to pay him back if squall were to make a reasonable settlement offer.

I to intend on repaying squall the remaining debt but I need to get things rolling for me in order to do it in the most efficient fashion.  It will be a lot easier to start repaying squall once I have land and an environment to produce music.

You will never get any land until you believe in yourself and sell your motorcycle to pay squall.

I am still awaiting a reply from a staff member as to why I was banned..

We are still awaiting for you to pay off your debt, which is infinitely more important.

This has been the wisest post I have read concerning the subject matter.

If your seeking wisdom, dank threads are a poor choice. They exist for light entertainment purposes only, nothing else.

Are you a staff member?


The fact that you feel the need to justify such a thing only shows your fear of higher philosophy.

No. Just pointing out how maybe you should treat others how you wish to be treated.


Oh come now dank, let's not pretend we don't both know about our unsaid agreement. You entertain us and we give you the attention you crave in return. It works well, but you need to come up with some new material, I'm starting to get bored.
You've milked the music festival comedy sketch to oblivion now, just getting tiresome. Think of some fresh ideas.

So, still awaiting a reply from a staff member as to why I was banned for posting informative articles that challenge the way society perceives existence.

Hypocritical that here you stand, deferring and consenting authority to a staff member of a closed, regulated forum.  Remember all those things I had been telling you about your tendency to jump on whatever side of the fence is most convenient for you? ...All those things I had been saying about you contradicting yourself?

Your "higher philosophy" is a bunch of contradictory nonsense, and it only serves the purpose of making you feel better by trying to justify the awful situation you've created for yourself.

Danks next move will be to play the free speech card.
But this won't work because, as "the joint" correctly pointed out, this forum is closed and regulated and if the staff don't like what you say they can boot you out.
This is no different if you was in my house and if I didn't like what you was saying I would be free to boot you out into the street.

Naturally dank won't see it like this and scream his fake persecution.

Wonderful.  And the cycle continues.  Bitcoin leads to private cartels that self regulate those outside of them by the sole discretion of the staff.

Don't like your philosophy?  Ban!  Don't like who you are?  See ya!

Wonderful, governance 2.0.

If you want anyone to take bitcoin seriously, you're going to have to at least respect natural rights of humans as much as the US government.

At least they pretend to have a fair justice system.

If this community cannot respectfully explain why a member who has been active since 2011 was banned for posting articles, why should any member hold trust in this community or pseudo wealthy bitcoin elitists?

What a system that allows an anonymous figure with a large incentive of greed to dictate other equal human being's ability to function with the click of a mouse.

Oroboros

Bitcoin != Bitcointalk.org


Told ya. ::)


Your not an anonymous figure dank, we know your name and what you look like?  ???

The mind of greed is not confounded to sectors.  It is a pattern, a cycle.


I was referring to the anonymous figure that bans people without debate or reason.

The real reason why dank was banned was because these articles he posted was not entertaining enough. At least all his other threads had high entertainment value. Isn't that obvious? Outside of entertainment, dank is pretty worthless.

Love never was worth much money.  It's always been invaluable to me.

Why would he not be able to link to it? That seems utter bullshit to me.
If you use material from another site you MUST place it between "these tags" and place the source above or under the copied pieces. Nothing wrong with that.

How to see time of ban account.. i have banned yesterday T.T
"Sorry vpsmmoforall, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
You have been banned by a forum moderator. You may appeal here: banappeals-w6pquw43@theymos.e4ward.com ."
this mean i have ban forever?

 :o

For heavens sake. What did you do, moforall?

It's actually called "low quality spamming"



~BCX~

Oh, right.  The CIA studied a man leave his body and explore the universe.

Nothing to see here, carry on.