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I'm selling 4.723 BTC for USD.

Need a quick trade. :)

What is your rate? Can you prove that you actually have that much bitcoin by providing a signed message?

Honestly, I don't even know what that is. I traded my Stellar for Bitcoin through JustCoin.com so I could cash out.

You never answered my PM. I offered you Preev +5% for an instant transaction, Preev spot for an escrowed transaction. I have the PayPal balance right now.

Sorry, it keeps telling me I have to wait before sending or posting a message. Do you have Skype? I'm willing to take your deal.

Sure. I'll PM you with my info.

Someone add me who wants to trade. Shane.Bellone

Escrow?
You're a Newbie user claiming for a ~1120 trade so maybe an escrow service could be fair for exchange, don't you think so?  ;)

I totally agree with you. That's mandatory.

Looking to sell the whole lot at one time.

Escrow is fine with me... Just need the cash.

It's typically polite to let me know that on Skype before you remove me as a contact and stop responding. I didn't know taking the entire amount was required. As I told you on Skype, I can do that with a bank transfer, but I have $232 for immediate PayPal.

I can give you 1100 right now. If you're happy with that just let me know if you're sending first to me or if you have an escrow to send the funds to.

Added you on Skype and you did not add me back

Skype is having problems. Took me 10 minutes to add another user. Verifying RockMinerOops' identity then trading. If this falls through I will be back.

RockMinerOops just scammed me for ~280. His wallet address is 1PJwjpZU8juNe99AoqkKUhHfCp1b1AKXjy

Do you have any screenshots of this, or additional evidence?

why are u just sending first to just anyone?

u should use this guy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35312 if hes on

Amazing amazing dude

And this is exactly why I can't do a legitimate transaction without everyone being concerned that I'm a fraud - people do this kind of crap.

I offered you a fast transaction on Skype, you removed me. Now you got scammed.

http://s3.postimg.org/cdggoqdc3/screenshot_172.png

And no money.... He blocked me on Skype after confirming receipt.

I am curious to know how exactly you knew that was forum name. Did he actually confirm via PM or did he simply volunteer it via skype.

Additionally I do not see your skype name publicly therefore I would say the list of potential culprits would be limited to the people who had received your skype name from you

He or Her Skype is on the first page please take a proper look at it.

Yeah. He's some random newbie around here.

Judging from his post history, he gambles, and his wife is involved with the legal system?

I literally offered you a legitimate deal with thread transparency and you accepted a send-first deal from some newbie who ripped you off.

I can escrow this if needed.

@Lou Yes please. Will anyone buy 3.54 BTC with LOU as the middleman? Preferably a wire transfer?

Hold on....I have been trying to get you to add me on Skype all night, and I also added you 2 times, one was from Conneticut and the other from some other city....and you never accepted me.  I asked you to search me, nathanfund90 in Stevenspoint, and you never added me.  What the hell?

I'll do this for the $232 PayPal balance I offered you previously.

Well, not the entire 3.54, obviously.

1.0 BTC even. $232 PayPal (balance, mind you, not a card or bank transfer) for 1.0 BTC. LouReed is fine as escrow.

yea, I see that now, it is midway though the first page. IMO he clearly does not have very much experience in trading as he was so willing to send first.

Hmmm...somewhat suspicious that it just so happens that the person who scammed the OP was actually trying to add the OP on skype.

He's the 3-L Domains guy.

Since the OP is clearly very new at trading on here, I would like to add that paypal transactions can be reversed up to ~6 months after they have taken place. Therefore escrow is really not going to protect the OP as you will have long received bitcoin from the OP by the time you have a chance to file a hack/chargeback report. Additionally there is a warning that your account might be hacked on your trust

Are you kidding me right now? You have the balls to come on here and say you didn't just steal my money. Fuck you.

[2/2/15, 8:17:05 PM] Shane Bellone: Please add me as a contact
[2/2/15, 8:24:13 PM] Shane Bellone: There we go!
[2/2/15, 8:24:14 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: You are on bitcoin talk?
[2/2/15, 8:24:18 PM] Shane Bellone: Yes.
[2/2/15, 8:24:27 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Finally haha
[2/2/15, 8:24:37 PM] Shane Bellone: Sorry for the delay. It only lets me post every 360 seconds.
[2/2/15, 8:24:39 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Sorry not sure what was going on had to log out and back in.
[2/2/15, 8:24:54 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Yea thats why I offered this.  Newbie time restrictions suck.
[2/2/15, 8:25:01 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: So you want a wire transfer?
[2/2/15, 8:25:09 PM] Shane Bellone: So true. That would be preferred.
[2/2/15, 8:25:19 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: OK, what bank do you bank with?
[2/2/15, 8:25:22 PM] Shane Bellone: Chase
[2/2/15, 8:25:30 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Is it a US bank or out of country?
[2/2/15, 8:25:33 PM] Shane Bellone: US Bank
[2/2/15, 8:25:43 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Oh ok, you want wire, or chase quickpay?  I have chase also
[2/2/15, 8:25:50 PM] Shane Bellone: Either works for me.
[2/2/15, 8:25:54 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: I have a business Bank of America account also.
[2/2/15, 8:25:59 PM] Shane Bellone: Is quick pay free?
[2/2/15, 8:26:04 PM] Shane Bellone: I know wires are $25 each
[2/2/15, 8:26:12 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: For this amount, there might be a small fee but usually free yes
[2/2/15, 8:26:18 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: If there is its like a buck.
[2/2/15, 8:26:24 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: No big deal.
[2/2/15, 8:26:40 PM] Shane Bellone: Ok cool. So how do we do this safely for the both of us?
[2/2/15, 8:26:57 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Did you check my trust?
[2/2/15, 8:27:01 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: I sent the link.
[2/2/15, 8:27:20 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Also, my offer would be 1115.00 for 4.723, just as a heads up.
[2/2/15, 8:27:33 PM] Shane Bellone: Missed it. One sec
[2/2/15, 8:27:40 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: I can't do any more, thats a little under current price.
[2/2/15, 8:27:57 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile
[2/2/15, 8:28:22 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: I bought a 500 Amazon the opther day, he sent first, paid him rght away after, no issues, a little over 2 btc.
[2/2/15, 8:28:45 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Also I have a guy that sells me visa cards occasionally, he sends first.  Never an issue either.
[2/2/15, 8:29:11 PM] Shane Bellone: That a mount is fine with me. Had to break out a calculator (rofl)
[2/2/15, 8:29:15 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: You can always reach me here, or online also.  Also wanted to advise you not to take paypal, as scammers using that are abundant
[2/2/15, 8:29:32 PM] Shane Bellone: Yeah. I realize that. Especially from other newbies.
[2/2/15, 8:29:35 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Even people with lots of activity, usually PayPal are people that bought the accounts.
[2/2/15, 8:30:05 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: OK good.  Just want to make sure you are safe, whether you deal with me or not.  Hate seeing peolple scammed.  I am prosecuting a guy for ri[[ing me off for a BoA transfer./
[2/2/15, 8:30:18 PM] Shane Bellone: Ouch. :(
[2/2/15, 8:30:20 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: My wife works for Eastern District of Mo
[2/2/15, 8:30:40 PM] Shane Bellone: Alright. So here's my proposal. You send me $1 to my Chase account so I can verify your identity. That way if you run off with 1,115 I can find you lol. ;)
[2/2/15, 8:30:57 PM] Shane Bellone: Or if it's possible we could break it down into 1 btc chunks.
[2/2/15, 8:30:58 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=924212.0
[2/2/15, 8:31:15 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Here is where I am hel;ping a few guys off bitcointalk prosecute him
[2/2/15, 8:31:51 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: After getting scammed, I will not send first, however, I will do you one better.
[2/2/15, 8:31:52 PM] Shane Bellone: That's rough.
[2/2/15, 8:32:02 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Allow me a sec, I will get you my license.
[2/2/15, 8:32:12 PM] Shane Bellone: That works for me.
[2/2/15, 8:32:22 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: And we can break down into smaller deals sure.  I am not against that at all.
[2/2/15, 8:32:28 PM] Shane Bellone: Perfect.
[2/2/15, 8:34:34 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb sent a file to this group:
DL scan.pdf
[2/2/15, 8:35:38 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: You can reach me by text anytime at 314-433-9845
[2/2/15, 8:36:19 PM] Shane Bellone: Alright. Do you have one minute to turn on camera so I can verify that is you?
[2/2/15, 8:38:23 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Sure, I look a mess and have not shaved, but no problem.  Pic is a little older but still looks close to me haha
[2/2/15, 8:38:33 PM] Shane Bellone: Sure. That's fine.
[2/2/15, 8:39:01 PM] Shane Bellone: Let me know when you're ready.
[2/2/15, 8:39:32 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: I dont have a mic, just a heads up
[2/2/15, 8:39:42 PM] Shane Bellone: That;s cool. It'll only take a moment.
[2/2/15, 8:39:45 PM] Shane Bellone: Better to be safe.
[2/2/15, 8:40:21 PM] Shane Bellone: Call  17 seconds
[2/2/15, 8:40:33 PM] Shane Bellone: Thanks.
[2/2/15, 8:40:37 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Did we disconnect?
[2/2/15, 8:41:01 PM] Shane Bellone: I hung up.
[2/2/15, 8:41:05 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Ah ok.
[2/2/15, 8:41:08 PM] Shane Bellone: You kind of prove you're you.
[2/2/15, 8:41:09 PM] Shane Bellone: lol
[2/2/15, 8:41:29 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Yea, I didnt shave so I mean I wasnt expecting tht haha
[2/2/15, 8:41:47 PM] Shane Bellone: That's cool. You look different but I believe you.
[2/2/15, 8:41:58 PM] Shane Bellone: Looks like you lost some weight.
[2/2/15, 8:42:02 PM] Shane Bellone: (Y)
[2/2/15, 8:42:16 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Had a baby, been non stop go, lost a little weight but styill have more to go
[2/2/15, 8:42:17 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: All in all ok though
[2/2/15, 8:42:34 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Let me crunch number real quick
[2/2/15, 8:42:37 PM] Shane Bellone: Sure.
[2/2/15, 8:42:40 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Give me 2 mins?
[2/2/15, 8:42:44 PM] Shane Bellone: Not a problem.
[2/2/15, 8:44:08 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: OK, have you used Chase QP before?
[2/2/15, 8:44:19 PM] Shane Bellone: I have not.
[2/2/15, 8:44:26 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Do you have online banking set up?
[2/2/15, 8:44:32 PM] Shane Bellone: Yep. Just logged in
[2/2/15, 8:45:25 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: OK, go here:  http://www.chase.com/QuickPay
[2/2/15, 8:45:40 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Make sure your email is verified and that you agree to the terms.
[2/2/15, 8:45:54 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: So that you can receive.
[2/2/15, 8:46:00 PM] Shane Bellone: Yep. I'm all set.
[2/2/15, 8:46:14 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: OK I need your email address then please.
[2/2/15, 8:46:20 PM] Shane Bellone: shane.bellone@gmail.com
[2/2/15, 8:46:20 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Do you want to do half and half?
[2/2/15, 8:46:40 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: or 1/4th
[2/2/15, 8:46:43 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: 'or whatever
[2/2/15, 8:46:57 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Better to use less, but I want you to feel ok too
[2/2/15, 8:47:08 PM] Shane Bellone: Mind doing 1 at a time? I'm willing to risk ~240ish but more than that would make me uncomfortable.
[2/2/15, 8:47:09 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Multiple trades back to back may flag our accounts
[2/2/15, 8:47:11 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Sure
[2/2/15, 8:47:28 PM] Shane Bellone: Ok. Let me log into JC
[2/2/15, 8:48:28 PM] Shane Bellone: Ok. I'm logged in.
[2/2/15, 8:49:07 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: OK, to make math easier, if we break into 1/4th, it is 1.18075 btc for 278.75 Chase.
[2/2/15, 8:49:10 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Is that doable?
[2/2/15, 8:49:15 PM] Shane Bellone: That's fine.
[2/2/15, 8:49:29 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: 115/4 = 278.75
[2/2/15, 8:49:42 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: OK, wallet is:  1PJwjpZU8juNe99AoqkKUhHfCp1b1AKXjy
[2/2/15, 8:50:43 PM] Shane Bellone: Sent.
[2/2/15, 8:51:06 PM] Nathan Do Not Disturb: Received
[2/2/15, 8:51:16 PM] Shane Bellone: Great

I addressed that in my thread. I cannot prove my identity with a wallet address as I am not in control of the wallet address previously used on this account. It's just that simple. I'm not going to argue with anyone regarding that subject, nor will I argue the flaws of PayPal. Everyone knows the chargeback protocols.

The only thing I can do is keep trying to use my PayPal balance for some BTC. Right now, the price is below $250 and I'd like to use the PayPal balance I have to scoop up close to 1 BTC.

I can send the payment as a gift, payment for something invoiced (consultation, web development, anything the seller wants). That won't stop a chargeback due to a "compromised PayPal account", but it should prevent goods chargebacks. I have a balance, not a card transfer or bank transfer, so those chargebacks are out.

Again, I can't control PayPal policies. I'm just trying to do business with this PayPal balance. That's all.

Did you possibly get a screen shot of that guy's face? If so then you should post it. However there is a chance that he was just using a recorded video if it only lasted for 17 seconds.

It would probably be better if you used a less reversible payment method. You cannot control paypal's policies however you can use a safer way for the OP to receive funds

Don't get me wrong, if I had cash for WU I'd send it. It's about ease, really. Right this second I have a leftover PayPal balance. It's faster for me to buy BTC with it than it is to withdraw it to my bank.

The OP asked for PayPal when I listed off payment options. I was just proceeding from there.

And oh look. Negative Trust from TomatoCage! Sweet.

Being in a big hurry was your first mistake. You might want to slow down and focus on safety?

You are clearly actively trying to sell your paypal balance. TomatoCage seems to think you are a purchased account with scam accusations against you. I would personally trust TomatoCage as he has a very good scamdar

Dealing with HBO GO now...

The saddest part is that I offered him a quick trade, as I'm looking for the exact same thing. I can send the PayPal balance within seconds of him either sending me the coins or an escrow confirming being funded. Gah.

There should be some kind of ID protocols for those who opt for them that clear up cases of mistaken identity and trust.


I'm trying to unload my balance, sure. My choices are these:

Wait x days while my withdrawal limit clears.

Buy something I don't want off of newegg and sell it here.

Buy some bitcoins.

That's basically it. I'm trying to purchase BTC because it's faster than withdrawing funds, withdrawing that into cash, and sending it Western Union. I'm not sure what's unclear here.

Also, no one is disputing that this is a purchased account. I never said it wasn't. I damn sure don't have scam accusations on me - I just checked in the appropriate forum section.

Shane I would higly suggest you to do not trade with this guy apmapm12 , it doesn't matter if escrow will be used for the transaction there'r 98% of chance that you will recieve a chargeback. Try Maidak  just wait til someone trustwhorty who offer's no chargeback window to you. Please for you'r own saftly.

I'm not trying to act like a flake here, but I'm getting a little irate about this assumption about chargebacks. If I wanted to pull a chargeback scam, I would do it for some greater amount on a better repped account. I have no intention of filing a fraudulent chargeback (And that's all it would be, since my account isn't going to get hacked any time soon).

I am LITERALLY TRYING TO BUY EXACTLY $232 WORTH OF BTC WITH MY PAYPAL BALANCE. NO STRINGS. NO SCAMS. NO VOODOO.

Jesus Christ.

About time people started using their own sense of judgement instead of relying on someone else to do the research for them.
Use Cage's ratings as a guideline, but never a concrete proof. For a time he had my name up on his probable scammer list, now he doesnt.

So use your own common sense.

SellingHBOGo just took 1 BTC from me. I'm gong to clean out your entire forum before I find a decent trader....

[2/2/15, 8:13:51 PM] HBO Go: Hey
[2/2/15, 8:13:55 PM] HBO Go: I want the btc
[2/2/15, 9:03:18 PM] HBO Go: Hi, I'd like to add you on Skype.
[2/2/15, 9:07:41 PM] Shane Bellone: Shane Bellone has shared contact details with HBO Go.
[2/2/15, 9:07:43 PM] Shane Bellone: Hi
[2/2/15, 9:07:59 PM] HBO Go: Hey
[2/2/15, 9:08:04 PM] HBO Go: How much btc you got left
[2/2/15, 9:08:26 PM] Shane Bellone: 3.54
[2/2/15, 9:08:32 PM] HBO Go: I'll take it
[2/2/15, 9:08:43 PM] Shane Bellone: How will we do it?
[2/2/15, 9:09:00 PM] HBO Go: I can pay you by PayPal?
[2/2/15, 9:09:00 PM] HBO Go: Family or friends payment?
[2/2/15, 9:10:14 PM] HBO Go: You there?
[2/2/15, 9:10:23 PM] Shane Bellone: Yeah. I'm dealing with the scammer.
[2/2/15, 9:10:26 PM] Shane Bellone: Give me a moment please
[2/2/15, 9:11:57 PM] HBO Go: You can send the btc here
[2/2/15, 9:11:57 PM] HBO Go: 159oRidydvHNzbuGu12Tn8q8LPEkezfA3E
[2/2/15, 9:12:05 PM] HBO Go: When you're done dealing with the scammer
[2/2/15, 9:14:41 PM] HBO Go: Yes or no just let me know
[2/2/15, 9:16:02 PM] Shane Bellone: I need a middleman this time.
[2/2/15, 9:16:07 PM] HBO Go: I have rep
[2/2/15, 9:16:20 PM] HBO Go: I did a deal for 3 btc which I was sent first check feedback
[2/2/15, 9:17:06 PM] HBO Go: With cashoutservices
[2/2/15, 9:19:25 PM] HBO Go: You there?
[2/2/15, 9:19:55 PM] Shane Bellone: Yeah. Sorry dealing with this.
[2/2/15, 9:20:06 PM] Shane Bellone: No one believes me because I'm new to the forum.
[2/2/15, 9:25:00 PM] HBO Go: Alright when can we deal?
[2/2/15, 9:25:13 PM] HBO Go: Let me know what you want me to say on the forum I can help you out
[2/2/15, 9:26:17 PM] Shane Bellone: LouReed just offered to be an escrow
[2/2/15, 9:27:12 PM] HBO Go: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941475.0
[2/2/15, 9:27:23 PM] HBO Go: Thread where I bought 3 btc seller sent first no provlemt
[2/2/15, 9:33:09 PM] HBO Go: Yes or no?
[2/2/15, 9:34:42 PM] Shane Bellone: No thanks. I'm going to wait for an escrow and a wire transfer. Sorry for wasting your time. :(
[2/2/15, 9:37:26 PM] HBO Go: Fine can we do PayPal?
[2/2/15, 9:37:41 PM] Shane Bellone: Do you have a US verified account?
[2/2/15, 9:37:53 PM] HBO Go: I have a Canadian verified account
[2/2/15, 9:38:05 PM] HBO Go: Most of my balance is USD though
[2/2/15, 9:38:54 PM] HBO Go: Image
[2/2/15, 9:38:58 PM] Shane Bellone: Can you cover the 3.54 with paypal balance?
[2/2/15, 9:39:01 PM] Shane Bellone: Ah
[2/2/15, 9:39:02 PM] HBO Go: Yes
[2/2/15, 9:39:02 PM] Shane Bellone: I see
[2/2/15, 9:40:03 PM] Shane Bellone: Ok. Send me $1 to shane@seoperior.com so I can verify your account. Then I'll refund it. If everything passes inspection I'll send you 1 btc first. etc.
[2/2/15, 9:41:31 PM] HBO Go: Ok I'll send as goods or services payment since I don't want to lose even $1 lol
[2/2/15, 9:41:43 PM] Shane Bellone: That's fine. I'll refund it either way.
[2/2/15, 9:42:57 PM] HBO Go: Image
[2/2/15, 9:43:49 PM] Shane Bellone: Received
[2/2/15, 9:44:18 PM] Shane Bellone: Ok.
[2/2/15, 9:44:26 PM] Shane Bellone: You're set.
[2/2/15, 9:44:44 PM] HBO Go: Alright can you refund it now
[2/2/15, 9:45:09 PM] Shane Bellone: Refunded.
[2/2/15, 9:45:32 PM] HBO Go: ok thanks
[2/2/15, 9:45:42 PM] HBO Go: so can you send the btc or no?
[2/2/15, 9:45:50 PM] Shane Bellone: Yes.
[2/2/15, 9:46:02 PM] Shane Bellone: You never said how much you were paying  though
[2/2/15, 9:46:10 PM] HBO Go: ill pay press +5
[2/2/15, 9:46:13 PM] HBO Go: *preev
[2/2/15, 9:46:38 PM] HBO Go: 159oRidydvHNzbuGu12Tn8q8LPEkezfA3E
[2/2/15, 9:46:46 PM] Shane Bellone: Ok.
[2/2/15, 9:46:50 PM] HBO Go: Send the 3.54 to that address
[2/2/15, 9:47:23 PM] Shane Bellone: I'm willing to send 1 at a time. I can't lose it all.
[2/2/15, 9:47:54 PM] HBO Go: i have no reason to scam just verified myself to you, plus i run a business on bitcointalk
[2/2/15, 9:48:26 PM] Shane Bellone: What's the harm in going 1 at a time?
[2/2/15, 9:48:46 PM] HBO Go: It would just be faster to complete the whole deal at once
[2/2/15, 9:49:24 PM] Shane Bellone: Do you own bit coin mixer?
[2/2/15, 9:49:37 PM] HBO Go: nope
[2/2/15, 9:49:42 PM] HBO Go: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=896143.0
[2/2/15, 9:49:52 PM] HBO Go: i wouldn’t risk getting this back for only 3.54 btc
[2/2/15, 9:50:27 PM] HBO Go: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941475.0
[2/2/15, 9:50:40 PM] HBO Go: thread where i completed a 3 btc deal which i was sent first no problems
[2/2/15, 9:51:44 PM] HBO Go: you there?
[2/2/15, 9:52:16 PM] Shane Bellone: Yes. I was just thinking. If you aren't willing to do 1 at a time I'm going to have to pass. I understand you've completed trades but I did just get scammed.
[2/2/15, 9:52:21 PM] Shane Bellone: I'm hesitant
[2/2/15, 9:52:37 PM] HBO Go: ok can we do 2 first then 1 after?
[2/2/15, 9:54:01 PM] Shane Bellone: No. 1 at a time.
[2/2/15, 9:54:11 PM] Shane Bellone: It'll take like 5 minutes. lol
[2/2/15, 9:54:13 PM] HBO Go: not half the amount first and half after>
[2/2/15, 9:54:43 PM] Shane Bellone: If you want to do it all at once then pay first. Or does that make you uncomfortable?
[2/2/15, 9:54:57 PM] HBO Go: lol ok we’ll do 1 at a  time
[2/2/15, 9:55:01 PM] Shane Bellone: Thank you
[2/2/15, 9:56:17 PM] Shane Bellone: logging into JC
[2/2/15, 9:56:42 PM] HBO Go:  You can send the btc here 159oRidydvHNzbuGu12Tn8q8LPEkezfA3E
[2/2/15, 9:57:12 PM] Shane Bellone: Sent.
[2/2/15, 9:58:31 PM] Shane Bellone: You there?

Okay I just sent you a PM about this. Why would you not use escrow? You just said that you were going to ???

That isn't my btc address? Mine is posted on my profile

Stop sending first to people with no or little trust and use escrow. I know you're looking for a "quick" deal but look at all the time wasted with these scammers.

This. I literally told you repeatedly that I was looking for a quick transaction and escrow would be fine.

You removed me from Skype because I only have $232 as a balance and would have to do a bank transfer for all of the coins. You should have sold $232 and been more patience.

You have to be kidding me. You took my money and blocked me.... ballsy.

He even sent me money from a verified PayPal account... but I think that might have been stolen too.

Post the name on the PayPal account.

This guy is wasting more then time. He has already pissed away more then 2 BTC sending first to scammers.

I find it hard to believe that anyone is going to actually be this naive

I did not deal with this guy.... I tried to add him multiple times and he never added me.  I don't know what is going on here, but whatever he posted is not me.  And if he did it again, its either OP lying, or someone impersonating people on Skype.

They knew your wife and your open scam thread against another user? And your trade history?

Its all in my posts...... 

This is very interesting. This is almost the exact same story that sellingHBOGo gave me via PM. I don't think anyone is impersonating anyone else. The chances are simply too low that two people who happened to add the OP on Skype happened to get impersonated at the same time, and the OP declines to add the "real" version of them.  

Prema Suresh was the name on the Paypal account.

If you guys want to keep some lowlife scammers on your forums, fine fuck it.

I offered this guy a wire or a reload pack via PM, even a Western Union or a Moneygram.  He refused to ever add me.  Still has not.  I have completed a few deals.  Sorry if you don't believe me.  Also, I would not refuse escrow.

Shane my offer still stands. Sorry to hear you were ripped off, u should only send first to highly trusted members and not large amounts either. Use a middle man to escrow. I'll take whatever you have left. U can use any trusted escrow u like on here to complete the transaction

Well my theory is that the OP is either trolling/making up the fact that he is getting scammed or that both you and HBOGo actually scammed him. I am somewhat leaning towards the former as I find it hard to believe that someone would be so stupid to send that much bitcoin with such a little amount of security

And I told you already, I would have taken $232 in BTC via PayPal balance in about 60 seconds. All you had to do was either send the coins or get an escrow, and you would have $232 in PayPal sitting on your account.

You basically picked everyone BUT me to do business with, and you suffered as a result. =/

This is so frustrating.


He could be making it up to get someone to send first and then he vanishes.

Deal. Set it up. I have 2.54 left.

Well I noticed that both transactions in question are funded with an address that has inputs from what appears to be a shared send transaction from blockchain.info. Therefore it would be possible that the OP is simply sending funds to himself and then using shared send to "recycle" funds back to himself.

Sweet, just let us know who to use as escrow unless u want to do it here publicly I'll post my BTC address and go with that. Ur choice bud

Post publicly. How will you pay?

I'm gong for broke. Maybe someone on here is honest.

Spartan is honest. That's not the issue. The issue is that two other supposedly reputable people have "scammed" you, but you didn't show proof. You copied and pasted text.

Take screenshots and show them here or on a scam accusation thread.

Right here my Bitcoin address is:
1GMArUyd34aqU5HnyDKFFaQgNtkvqCMRQV

My trust can be viewed here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=106038

Total amount I'll send over for 2.54BTC is $600US via PayPal.

Happy with that?

Sent Spartan. Please confirm receipt. Paypal = shane@seoperior.com

You did not send anything to that address. The OP is clearly a scammer HAHA

He was trying to show that he has bitcoin and to show he got scammed so others would not think to verify his actions so he can end up scamming

You have got to be kidding me. Good god.

And THAT is why I don't send first to newbies.

https://blockchain.info/address/1GMArUyd34aqU5HnyDKFFaQgNtkvqCMRQV

Nothing.

Post transaction ID or screenshot or prepare to be painted red

Keep my fucking name out of your mouth OP.  Retardedness in this thread.  

http://s16.postimg.org/3yhr0royt/screenshot_173.png

Sorry for the delay but the limiter on this forum is insane... Are you really saying you didn't receive it, Spartan?

lol everyone can see he didnt receive it

I will honour the payment if it is sent but as you can see nothing has been received on my end. I'm going to give u the benefit of the doubt here and ask where are you sending from? Do you see any txID anywhere?

What is a txID? I've sent it from JustCoin.com. Does that delay the process?

Why you dont use escrow wtf?:D

Could be. Well just have to wait and see

Maybe because he doesn't have the BTC to fund the actual escrow? Looks like he's trying to trick people into sending him funds  ;)

Seriously? I'm the one who's out $x,xxx.

And for the record I just received confirmation of the first transaction. Maybe there is a delay.

Guy was pretending to be scammed hoping someone would feel sorry for him and send first. Then he scams.

I think it was probably actually to build trust. He was hoping that by being a "victim" of multiple scams he was hoping that the eventual buyer would believe him when he said he sent the bitcoin.

The problem is that anyone who has enough trading history to have a good amount of trust will know to verify the receipt of funds prior to sending funds of their own

The thing is that it would have worked with me potentially, because if he would have dealt with me I would have sent first to show I was legit about unloading my PP balance. Oh well.

Spartan... I'm going to bed. I have school in the morning. Once you receive the BTC please send the USD to my paypal. I hope you are as honest as they say.

Huh? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=944399.msg10342258#msg10342258

I'm sure people are gonna be more suspicious about you now and paypal funds coming from a hacked account...

Check the blockchain now. It just arrived....

https://blockchain.info/address/1GMArUyd34aqU5HnyDKFFaQgNtkvqCMRQV

Spartan... please send me my money. The transaction has been confirmed.

nice now u have to wait for him to come back on hes not logged in right now but i think your safe with him

I have to admit that I was willing to bet that the OP was a scammer. I do still have my suspicions with him though. If he attempts to trade with anyone in the future I would strongly advise not to send funds either without escrow or until you can independently verify a transaction has confirmed

Yeah there's something fishy. He's accused two people on this forum of scamming him. There are three options.

1) They scammed him.

2) A scammer impersonated them on skype.

3) He wasn't scammed and was trying to put himself in a situation where someone would trust his newb self enough to send first to him.

Option 1.... ding ding ding... we have a winner.

I think it is a variant of number 3. I think he purposefully took a long time to send so the next time he wants to trade with someone, they will have less hesitation in sending funds to him after he claims to have sent bitcoin to them.

I find it somewhat hard to believe that it would take any exchange that long to send that small of an amount of bitcoin

Do you have PM's from either of them with a bitcoin address in it? Or are you saying all conversations were on skype?

I have adresses on Skype. Guess what though...

Your beloved Spartan never sent the money, never commented and probably will never came back online.

What happened at all ? 0 BTC 0 Paypal ? or what ? I got this correctly ?

Yep. I lost 4.7 BTC because 0/3 people were honest and all of them are still members here.

Ok I've seen enough.  You lost 4.7 btc because you are an idiot.  I reread that supposed slype convo and guess what?  I was messaging you like 6 times telling you to send me your skype name because you didn't add me.  Probably right at the same time.  Why wouldn't you have whoever you were talking to on Skype confirm it was the person her (me, HBO go, or anyone else)?  Do NOT drag me through the mud on this because of your stupidty.  Sorry you supposedly "got scammed", but its looking more like you are either completely brain dead, or tried to scam yourself.

Yet you added me on Skype and took my money. Say what you want but that's the truth.

lol nobody told u to send first to anyone, everyone was saying use escrow. Anyways he still hasnt logged back on yet so just wait.

You have to be the stupidest user I've ever seen. It would have took 2 minutes to PM the 2 users to verify their identities on skype before sending that much BTC. Even after you got scammed 2 times, you didn't learn your lesson and sent $600 without escrow. You're bound to get scammed eventually if you're that stupid, take it as a lesson

He's already moved the currency. I doubt he's paying and I doubt he's coming back online.

So much for trusted members on this forum!!

Do NOT do business with Shane Bellone without escrow.

No negative feedback for spartan82? Appears he's gone... been almost 24 hours since he's received the BTC.

He has still not logged in since he received the bitcoin, plus the fact that there was a significant delay between the time the OP said he sent the transaction and the time it was actually broadcast to the network, it would not be unexpected for him to be under the assumption that he was not going to receive the bitcoin.

He hasn't logged in but he's moved the bitcoins to another address.

You don't know if he personally controls the private keys to the address or not. The address he gave could have easily been to an exchange or something like circle

The coins wouldn't have moved out of the wallet if it was an exchange unless he moved them himself. He really just ditched his account for $600 and he was on the default trust list... smh

Yes they would have, don't talk if you don't know what you are talking about.  When you deposit to an exchange the exchange moves the coins from your deposit address to a main address or a cold storage address..... same as if he deposited in a gambling site.

Alright, I clearly didn't know that, thanks for the clarification. We'll see if he pays up or not

Wow wow wow wow, I'm back now! I've only just seen this. As you can all tell that last I was on here THERE WAS NO FUNDS IN MY ADDRESS. You all know that. So I'm sending the funds now or BTC back!
The Bitcoin address I use is with HAVELOCK INVESTMENTS. If you clearly see every single deposit that is made into that address is moved within minutes not by me but clearly into a cold wallet?
Making payment now and if Shane wants his coins back instead he can refund me and I will refund the coin

For those of you that think I would scam and run off for a measly $600 not only did I honour this payment but immediately upon me coming back online AND even the fact that bitcoin has dropped in value bang here it is,
My original promised payment:


https://i.imgur.com/Hc3Iu6c.jpg

Shane I have updated ur trust here, I will msg tomatocage to remove your negative trust also. You may not be a scammer but u did make ridiculous transactions without escrow which is just as stupid.

Thats mean he told true and 2 people scam him... But he dont want to use escrow i dont know why.

No, thats not what that means.  I didnt scam this guy, I never even talked to him off forum.  He FINALLY added me on Skype, and I asked him what was up, he stopped replying.

That is not true, if you deposit funds onto an exchange then the exchange will combine those funds with other customer deposits and use it to either fund withdrawal requests of other customers or send it to cold storage.

I would think it would be more likely that they would move your deposits to addresses their customers are trying to withdraw to, although both I have not really looked into it for havelock and the distinction really does not matter. Even though the price of bitcoin moved against your favor, you still honored your end of the agreement.

2 people did scam me and they know who they are but Spartan came through. Thanks for being an honest guy. 1/3 isn't so bad... LOL

Yea make threat about them. Remember to add proof's

A deal is a deal guys, I made a promise regardless of the Bitcoin price drop when you make a deal like that NO MATTER WHAT you stick true to your word. You can do legitimate business for a long time but you can only scam once!

You are correct. I was supporting you when i made the statement about the price moving against you.

I do have my doubts however about him getting scammed the other two times. Your deal was the only one truly made in public, the other two are evidenced by nothing more then text that the OP claims to be a skype chat log

No, you have absolutely no idea who scammed you.

Shane is a gullible sucker who will believe anything anybody tells him over Skype.

I'm pretty sure that HBOgo and RockMiners actually did scam that girl, a hundred percent sure.

It was pure stupidity on his part, new user has no idea how things operate here. Nonetheless should use due diligence, common sense should prevail and you don't send that amount of coin over without using escrow or dealing with a trusted member of this forum. It's sad to say but I'm sure he has learnt his lesson now as should everyone else that sees what went down here. There's no strong evidence to support he was scammed by anyone else besides the transactions themselves, however in my case I posted my address for everyone to see whether he sent the coin or not

Says the guy who can't seem to complete a simple deal without fucking something up. Please enlighten us why you think so.

Please learn how to speak basic English before making a scam accusation about me

I don't understand Cage why don't you trust me I always have proof when someone tell that I'm a scammer and Ill prove them wrong and others don't even have any " proof " of it. Sick world when u try to do something by urself without a lot of knownledge.

I will explain why I think so. HBOgo used to sell carded HBOgo accounts ( No one said a word ever about it ) he got scammed by segvec started to build up some trust and then scammed. OP have the proof and PM's  from both who actually said that they added her.
Rockminners is an alt of someone else I mean I can't confirm by my words but if you take a look a lot of things seems to be right.
HBO said to everyone that he has access to things in Canada and if you check the way he talked to her on skype conv pasted here is pretty similar to he's self. And this girl actually didn't scam anyone. There's no one who actually dealt with HBO or Rockminers to confirmed they scammed from he's real skype account ? We need OP show Screenshots of conversations and all.  This forum is full of scammers. I don't have any kind of tool to spot them than my mind and I've suffer for almost any kind of problem with people tryng to scam me. It's all about checking posts/trust/connections between accounts/wording and other kind of stuff. The forum force myself to actuallt stop trading.

You'r a fucking scammer HBO and you got many alts and I know it. shut the fuck off asshole. At least I can understand and talk and write more than 1 lenguage english is not my basic lenguage and people does understand what i write/say. Actually I worked as an english cs agent.  And you well gtfo

Alright. First of all, fuck all of you who've said I'm a scammer, a liar or gullible. Never before have I experienced such a dishonest community that cares more about a few dollars than they do about their reputation. I guess that's what happens when you use a screen name. It's easy to steal when you hide behind a computer. Pussies.

Yes, SellingHBOGo and RockMinerOops scammed me. I am out roughly $600 because of them. Yet you rather accuse me of lying than securing your forum. That's fucking idiotic. It's such a shame that the biggest BTC forum sucks so badly. I do business on forums all of the time, sending between $x,xxx and $xx,xxx first. Never have I had a problem.

Even worse, I have been left negative trust and marked as a scammer because I WAS SCAMMED TWICE within an hour. The just shows the level of incompetence of this forum. Luckily, they took back the red paint.

Just to make it VERY clear for you ignorant fucks... Spartan ended up paying. I overreacted as there was nearly a 24 hour delay between payments. He turned out to be a very nice guy and 100% trustworthy.

im not sure u got scammed by them, did they pm u on this site to do the trade? if so show the pms if u used skype to do the trade thats your fault for coming to the forum and doing a trade off of it.

but that convo u posted shows u was talking to Nathan Do Not Disturb not nathanfund90.

My ID is Shane.Bellone but my screen name is Shane Bellone. Have you ever used Skype? The ID and name can be completely different. Defend him all you want.

I hope you do business with him. You'll find out.

nope dont use skype lol and ur an idiot for sending first to someone with no rep just trying to help u figure it out dumbass im done here go get scammed somemore please

no offense, you are retarded, before doing anything you should at least do a minimun research, you coulda just used circle.com and deposit onto your bank account if you are on the USA, you could have used Virwox to get paypal, localbitcoins with escrows, escrows here, read about trust at least, sell to only +trusts like spartan, there are plenty of users who would buy your btc with paypal that have high trust, even maidak, cryptology. You sir/madam is retarded.

yep what a dumbass i told him to use maidak on like the 2nd page what an idiot use some nobody and gets scammed twice lol

It was for ~600. I'm not wasting my time doing research over such a small amount of money. I expect people to be honorable. Reputation is everything in the business I'm in. Apparently, this forum is full of flakey adolescents.

Not only adolescents scam, many of the big cons are well grown adults, 600$ USD dollars is a really high amount of money to be trusted to some random person on the internet, learn how to do business with strangers.

It's a relatively small amount to me. Trust is everything.

OK let's deal.
I am looking to buy btc with 60$ skrill and have sent a pm too
Waiting for your response.

Beware! Skrill is reversible.

Its not.

I am paying by skrill balance. Not a credit card or something.
I don't think its still reversible but I want honest trade.

it was a cheap lesson learned for you then lol

Sad part of this is that rock and hbo are allowed to keep scamming. Anyway they will purchase a new account if they get flagged.

Fuck you I didnt scam this guy.

Shane presented credible evidence.

Hello James (LouReed)

still waiting for you and sent you lot of private messages on this forum as well as to your email addresses from 4 weeks but still NO single reply from you?

so please reply back as soon as possible and pay back btc funds

waiting for you

thanks