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Unmoderated OPAIR thread, many suspicous or proofs are listed here in this thread.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1570330.0

OP is self-moderated      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1558596.0

Reasons:
1. Was no escrow, after investors accused it, OP used escrow, but the first round of ico about 70 btc were not sent to escrow service. So Most of the btc fund is still NO escrow!!!    >:( >:( >:(

2. Fake LinkedIn pages,
Frank H. Rettig (CEO / Founder) https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankhrettig
Hao Wang (Core / Platform Developer)  https://www.linkedin.com/in/haowangg
no more info about 2 devs: Frank and Hao in google,
This is one HAO WANG, but he is not the dev, although their CVs look same.  http://www-scf.usc.edu/~haowang/index.php
I suspect wasserman(Opair OP) stole this CV and modified. I contacted the address in the webpage, but no email replied

3. Refuse interview&google hangout, wasserman(Opair OP) claimed they afraid personal attack, and no time(WTF, you want 700 btc but you don't have 1 hour time? And who will attack you if you devs are real, big lie!!!)

4. CEO said he was watching BCT forum since 2012, while he is a passive reader, he has NO BCT account. (WTF, how is possible? Obvious lie)

5. CEO's statement about OPAIR   https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/opair-statement-frank-h-rettig?articleId=6165182611577651200#comments-6165182611577651200&trk=prof-post

I can't read Germany but I use Google translate to translat it into English, it said that we can contact him by email, but a German lawyer contacted him many times, no replied.

İ wrote many things about the scammy İCO but he has group of members in his moderated thread where they protect the SCAM İCO. The kooke guy for example. The devs dont exist thats why they cant make a live stream video. Faked linkedin accounts. Only the second part where no money is located is in escrow :DD

Btw one more funny fact. Just go to the slack channel and look at FAKE FRANK's profile there. His mail adress was video@opair or something like that. He didnt even open a seperate account for his fake dev :D
İ dont know if its still like that because i got banned there too like in the original thread.

until now still progress, signature campaign is still run
maybe is next month is wait and see, is until signature campaign is paid and send coin
wait is ready added market placed exchager

Exactly, they are delivering.

His features are promising, his platform works smoothly, they are starting a marketing campaign, they are offering an escrow with SebastianJu and he will release the funds by parts (milestones, etc), the signature campaign is running and managed by Lutpin.

Fudders gona fud no matters what.





Amazing as usual!  ;D

Since we have seen so many ICO scams in recent months:
Waves= shit ico
Rise= shit ico, never below ico price
Mentrio=scam
Oracle=scam
Opair= 99% SCAM

Fortunately we have lisk and stratis are very legit and profitable, never under ico price.   ;D

Not easy to invest ICO now, avoid overvalued ico and no escrow ico.   :(

i try to do private video chat and promise to invest 30btc after that, and he refuse, and haowang and frank are not exist

OPAIR is obviously scam

also the origin probably from pakistan, i always check any website from hypestat.com (http://hypestat.com)
besides they always delete my post

why you think linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankhrettig is it a scam/false profile? I can't see anything strane mmm

A shitman said I am a shill against opair, wtf how retarded he is.

Wasserman has a weird logic: He wrote that a confidental video chat with Frank and me would be to risky for Frank because of his job. This is really crap:

1. I am a lawyer, this mean I am experienced in keeping stuff confidental and it would directly a crime if I won't do it. So it is pretty safe.
2. Frank just need to go online, say hello and show his ID-Card. This 15min never, never could harm any profession or job.
3. How a confidental video chat could still harm his job, if he make a public linkedin profile with his clear name and profession.

This things doesn't fit together.

2 other points are, that Frank invited to write him for further question but never anwsered any of my emails and they want to contact a lawyer shortly and never did it.

My conclusion is, that Frank's profile is fake.

If you check the moderated thread, you can see, that wasserman keep all this FUD-Messages and don't delete it. But my posting, which contains facts and conclusions have been erased instead of correcting it.

Btw., he went crazy yesterday via PM. Not unpolite but means we are on the right track.

The only problem with the escrow is that they don't have any kind of agreement on milestones. They seem to just be sending SebastianJu the money. What happens if they say "we want all the escrow released to us when the basic wallet and coin are online"? Without a fixed agreement beforehand, how can SebastianJu say no? Without terms, there is no protection, he has to return the money to them because its technically theirs.. right?

Frank not proving that he is real or talking to anyone is killing this ICO. No sensible founder would let their ICO suffer this much damage from something so trivial.

I regret my investment.

The self moderated thread which is the original ANN thread does have alot of warnings from users, how come you didn't even bother to question why there are lots of commotion and screaming scam?

Sebastian could demand proof though, hope he will.

I hope dev satisfactorily asnwer all questions raised here.If they are honest and genuine,ignoring this will only going to hurt their reputation

Thanks for your support !!


There is no question. Everything was clear in our thread. On our team we decided not to make a video interview at this stage of the process and for that we receive attacks from some users. Beyond that there is nothing.

Just because we do not make a video call, for the reasons already set up hundreds of times, it does not make us better or worse proposal, just different.

We just want to let us work in peace. We are offer a full escrow with SebastianJu and he will release the funds to us by PARTS!!!!! If we dont deliver or stop develop he will refund to everyone.

Even, we know that the two features that highlight in our project are the use of functional programming and decentralized debits cards, which both go to be our two main pillars. We are going to focus and develop these characteristics no matter how much funding we get.

We keep our promise. Time will prove us right. Whoever wants to trust us is welcome.

Regards

PS: If no one wants to invest in our project or wait until the end of ICO to invest are free to do so.

Your founder, Frank, has released a picture, full name and employer. How would a video chat compromise his privacy/job? We already know what his face looks like...

Your explanation doesn't make sense?

I hope Opair has something new to bring to the table, not just a copy and paste of what has already been done before.

Wasserman, it is over! You can paste hundred pictures here and in all other scam-threads, but here you can't just erase the facts.

And your "it was everything clear from the beginning" will not explain, why you made fake profiles.

And at least because you have been so greedy not to ask Mr. Winheller or so selfish not to accept my tax support, approx. 35%- 50% of the whole ICO will be probably taken away by taxes.

wasserman is full of bullshits, he is good at lying to new investors, and deleted negative posts.

you guys should give him bad trust with refference to this thread

It is really surprising what is happening here. There are a couple of users who are accusing us with no arguments. They just want our project to fail or I disappear to say that they were right. It is a bit unfair. But we will show them they are wrong and we will draw our platform forward. Fortunately, investors continue to give us their support and dont believe in the accusations of these people.

I hope that third parties can read the thread objectively and draw their own conclusions.

I will repeat my last message, because it is quite clear:

There is no question. Everything was clear in our thread. On our team we decided not to make a video interview at this stage of the process and for that we receive attacks from some users. Beyond that there is nothing.

Just because we do not make a video call, for the reasons already set up hundreds of times, it does not make us better or worse proposal, just different.

We just want to let us work in peace. We are offer a full escrow with SebastianJu and he will release the funds to us by PARTS!!!!! If we dont deliver or stop develop he will refund to everyone.

Even, we know that the two features that highlight in our project are the use of functional programming and decentralized debits cards, which both go to be our two main pillars. We are going to focus and develop these characteristics no matter how much funding we get.

We keep our promise. Time will prove us right. Whoever wants to trust us is welcome.

Regards

PS: If no one wants to invest in our project or wait until the end of ICO to invest are free to do so.

You damn scammer why the fuck isnt the first part of the ico where 70 btc are located not in escrow?? And stop telling lies about the fucking fake developers of your scam team. People who dont exist cant give a interview am i right ? :)) Put the fucking 70 btc in escrow and i will invest 10 btc.  CAN YOU DO THAT YOU SCAMMER ?? YOU CANT BECAUSE YOU WİLL TAKE THE MONEY ANS RUN AWAY :)

And to the other OPAİR SCAM supporters out there: You guys know that this shit is a scam and it wont get better if you encourage other people to invest more btc you fucking assholes. He will still take your money and run away. BTW i made the same mistake like you assholes and invested because i didnt research well.
BUT at least i try to stop people investing in this shitty scam ico and i was one of the first ones who wrote legit reasons why this fucker is a scammer.
And what happened after that ? He banned me from the main thread of course :)

You guys are worse then him you god damn assholes :)

No arguments? You must be kidding. The multiple scam threads are listing plenty of arguments against

- you
- your lies
- your fake Frank & developer social media profiles
- your fake multiple bitcointalk profiles
- your coin development lie
- you defending "your right" of offering no proof
- your copy and paste answers
- your deletion of critical posts
- your "Fudders gona fud no matters what" cries
- your slogan "open and fair"
- your refuses why no interview are possible
- "it was everything clear from the beginning" excuses
- etc.  

This list can be continued with so many further bullet points.

You are writing posts from quite a lot profiles from the same IP address.

In fact there is a high positive correlation in the times of the posts from you wasserman99 and kooke!  

And just by checkin the absence times (2014 - 2016) from your profile and the one from kooke  ... I assume both of the profiles were bought. Bought accounts for doing some fishy things.  

And I also like one of your first posts.


The community/marketing manager was looking for a community/marketing manager in April 2016 for something he was working on!

No answers from Frank on Linkedin. It's a fake profile. Did he respond to the CEO of Lisk, who tried to contact him over his LinkedIn profile as one can see? No. There is no Frank in Berlin.
  
It is a one man show. And instead of putting any time into any development of your coin project you spend all of your energy on lies in order to blind further people.

Anyone who entered a mail address at the opair ICO should check if they have not entered a password he uses regularly. Because that could additionally harm.

What are those reasons exactly?

You said one is privacy - but you already released his photo, we know what he looks like. This excuse doesn't hold water.

You said the other reason is.. you won't make a video chat or interview because you already decided that you won't make a video chat or interview. It's circular logic that also doesn't hold water.


If that guy in the picture is actually on this team, you could prove it easily!

Kooke how are you not worried by these obvious red flags?

The coin founder Frank doesn't seem to be real.

There is no milestone agreement on the escrow.

@QuarkSquirrel, these totally wrong. I can not believe you accuse me because i think the project is legal. If necessary, i can verify my investment to SebastianJu.

Please read this: A very strange point I would like to be investigated is that 90 percent of people in this thread are newbies newly created accounts. Perhaps many are the same person? This would explain a lot. As the case of san2ok and violet.project that is the same person.

I have no money invested in this project, but I hope the OP is wrong. The proposal seemed to be good.

Maybe it is because most of the experienced people were smart enough to avoid this ICO?

Kooke do you still honestly think that Frank is real? Many signs suggest that he is not...  :-\

well, i dont deny that.. i am aslo san2ok, (couple ID)
we dont hide our identity

what i dont like is, WHY you help scam others?

I was wondering if I should invest in this coin, but yeah, now I'm just interested to see what's going to happen.

@BasementRot to be honest i dont care if who is behind this coin is satoshi nakamoto, frank, wasserman, etc etc. I only care the product, just me interested this product can be developed. The person behind is only an insignificant thing for me.

And this project have everything to succeed: His features are promising, wasserman has solved all the problems that arisen very quickly, his platform works smoothly, they are starting a marketing campaign, they are offering an escrow with SebastianJu and he will release the funds by PARTS (milestones, etc), the signature campaign is running and managed by Lutpin, news coverage, chinese coverage.

At the moment i have no complaints. I really think that you are wrong but only time will tell who is right.

Good health to Opair!

It is ridiculous to trust anyone with so much fund, published linkedin info, but no interview offered. It means that the linkedin accounts info are fake, or accounts were bought.

No surprise. My post in the official thread was deleted after some hours and posts from Wasserman99 and from you started coming in.

I was considering investing but I saw that some of the btc moved from the first address. That's a bad sign. I'm investing in Jewels because its dev is trusted and provable and real unlike 99.99999876% of all the other icos. People who want to invest in a real project with a real face and name to a dev that's NOT fake check it out and in the mean time stay away from this scam ico.

Good, do comprehensive research before depositing money is very important, our money is not free to give, don't give money to the scammers.

Hi,

23.77 btc on the escrow address https://blockchain.info/address/3JCsw5ZxyqdZqXTZa42225LakRdqgJqQck and the other btc still in our wallet, but our online wallet when we sent the coins to the escrow address they generate two outputs and sent some btc to new generated address inside our wallet, look this transaction:

https://blockchain.info/tx/08449f9ec6abbac5fc5c0df12095bda831e60c32d183716c64e5cd850fe3676b, we sent 4.67 btc to the escrow address and the wallet sent 2.07 btc to a new generated address.

We do not have problems to give temporary access to our wallet to SebastianJu so he can confirm that everything is correct if its requested by users.

By the way, we clarify this some time ago, here you can see:



It's really strange, hopefully are not people from other projects that want us out of the way for fear of competition. As you say, it's weird.

Regards

If he lied about the inventor/lead programmer do you really think everything else is going to be legit? The whole point is that if the ICO has big lies, its probably a scam... duh!

You think its suspicious that a lot of newbie accounts are posting about Opair being a scam, but I gave a pretty good explanation.

What I think is suspicious is that you seem to have 100% trust in this coin and don't even care if the lead programmer is fake.

Relax, kooke already lost some of his money in this Oracle scam. So his opinion is really not an orientation.

And now he is afraid about loosing his money in Opair too.

So kooke is trying to lure others into this dead end.

Because with so less money like now it is pretty sure, that wasserman can't hire developer, marketing or legal support and opair is going to be a flop even if it isn't scam.

Kooke's point is not valid, and I see kooke and wasserman is senior member, so we can get the conclusion of they are 1 guy? I don't think so, so kooke's argument is illogical.

@wassermann You are really a unique kind of a human. After a long time someone managed me make me that angry. But dont worry, i know that you live in Germany and im from there too. İ will start a legal prosecution against you no matter how much it will cost like i said you before. İm just waiting for the end of the İCO to prove myself that im right. Your VPN wont help you.

Lets see who will be sorry in the end. You or we.

What platform are you talking about? Have you even seen the github which is empty.

Dont worry Kooke, your money is in the safe hands of wasserman :D :D

kooke also in oracle?  ???

san2ok told this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=85229

kooke will curse wasserman in the future, because wasserman will disappear with the fund after ico. kooke will cry because he was free shilling. :D

You are supporting this scam on every thread possible. I want to see your reaction when you will lose all your money after the scam will be revealed .

Don't blame him because there are still no strong evidence reagrding the scam accusation. Only speculation of OP is posted here. But he have a point on accusing because of fake identity of devs team. But he might still search for strong evidence because i think revealing your identity to this kind forum is not recommended because all user here is anonymous.

I am afraid kooke will conduct a suicide, I will pray for him, Jesus let him keep stronger, not cry, kooke baby. Like his avatar. ;D

??? I dont invest in oracle, what are you saying?


Really?? This thread is full of newbie fudders account.

As i see it, all accounts are newbie except Iudica, not much weight in all this information, just fudders, maybe all are the same person.

This project have everything to succeed: His features are promising, wasserman has solved all the problems that arisen very quickly, his platform works smoothly, they are starting a marketing campaign, they are offering an escrow with SebastianJu and he will release the funds by PARTS (milestones, etc), the signature campaign is running and managed by Lutpin, news coverage, chinese coverage.

At the moment i have no complaints. I really think that you are wrong but only time will tell who is right.

Good health to Opair!

Your favorite word is certainly fud.

I as newbie fell for your stupid scam game. That is why I am protesting.
 
Yes, you do not believe in newbie accounts. That is why you bought older profiles for your game.

I am just sick of your copy and paste texts. You have an excel spreadsheet with all your stupid lines lined up.

And all you do is to continue your game is copy and paste.

Wassermann99/kooke I hope you will fall hard.





 


 



 

Oh shit, lol..

Kooke does sound like Wasserman99 doesn't he?

I think he might be!

Kooke has over 400 post but most of them are from 2014 or before.

He took a break for almost 2 years and made 0 post during that time. Then just 8 days before the Opair ICO, he became super active again!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=85229;sa=showPosts;start=60

Haha, no wonder he protects this shit scam project opair, and he may be the scammer behind this opair, maybe kooke is wasserman.

I read your response dev and it looks like a scam still to me. I will pass like I previously sated but will keep watching to see if my views change over time which of course can happen and does happen quite often actually.

good find. it ain't coincident for sure! i knew something isn't right with this guy. and i mean everyone is already warning and yet this guy is protecting the scam? it really mean that they orchestrated this act to scam users.

That's a tall tale sign of a scamming bought account.

Brilliant find actually, imo it is very logical, kooke was always saying "this project is promising, so it is not a scam", his logic looks like a 10 years old boy. Illogic is his logic.

This certainly is a campaign designed to harm us. 90 percent of users who wrote in this thread are newbies accounts created less than a month ago. They can all be the same person Hopefully are not people from other projects that want us out of the way for fear of competition.

We will not let your attempt to FUD us make us effect and we will honor all our promises.

They just want our project to fail or I disappear to say that they were right. But we will show them they are wrong and we will draw our platform forward. Fortunately, investors continue to give us their support and dont believe in the accusations of these people.

I hope that third parties can read the thread objectively and draw their own conclusions.

I will repeat my last message, because it is quite clear:

There is no question. Everything was clear in our thread. On our team we decided not to make a video interview at this stage of the process and for that we receive attacks from some users. Beyond that there is nothing.

Just because we do not make a video call, for the reasons already set up hundreds of times, it does not make us better or worse proposal, just different.

We just want to let us work in peace. We are offer a full escrow with SebastianJu and he will release the funds to us by PARTS!!!!! If we dont deliver or stop develop he will refund to everyone.

Even, we know that the two features that highlight in our project are the use of functional programming and decentralized debits cards, which both go to be our two main pillars. We are going to focus and develop these characteristics no matter how much funding we get.

We keep our promise. Time will prove us right. Whoever wants to trust us is welcome.

Regards

PS: If no one wants to invest in our project or wait until the end of ICO to invest are free to do so.

Yeah, to prove they are wrong, you just simply upload in interview/video to let everyone sees the real CEO&Hao wang. Very simple, you can prove it very early, but never and ever, so means no such CEO& hao wang there. Even you can't post an audio interview.

tomsmith26 has a similar vita:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=200182;sa=showPosts

Inactive for a year and appear short before the ICO starts. But this account was active in other topics too. Maybe wasserman invest some energy to lift him to a better member status?

Opair is a zombie coin.   ;D Not only that the ICO is already dead, it is also reanimating dead BCT accounts.

It is ironic that he said newbies are shills, but the truth is that many members in opair are real paid shills(3 guys maybe him).   ;D

Just refund the 1 or 2 real btc that was invested. take back your btc and die in hell.

there is also no evidence the CEO is real, you cant prove that
silly marketing director but decided to be anonymous, it is a MARKETING director.. what kind marketing that stays anonymous? i cant understand that

the CEO put his face, on linkedn but cannot show him self and never speak
the marketing director that always cope and paste but never show his real face
the hao wang that not even exist, and none of them can be trace

Isildur, thanks for you support, as we said in our last statements is a campaign designed to harm us. 90 percent of users who wrote in this thread are newbies accounts created less than a month ago. Even they are written in the same time range. They can all be the same person.

Regards

Enrolling in a ICO is never without risk, I took the risk and invested some. I like to spread some coins over several ICO's  and see where it goes.
There is no evidence of scamming here, just speculation. I believe in Opair and this thread doesn't change much about that, almost every ICO I invested in the last months are called a scam, and those coins are still there, available on exchanges and devs with little background here on the forum working on the projects they started.

Everything is always a gamble, just think if the risk could be worth the reward and take the chance or not. :)

Yeah, of course all accounts are newbies...

Their rank doesn't matter.what really matters is if their arguments are logical and do they carry any weightage? I am not saying that they are right but lets reply and try to solve their doubts.Thats it  ;)

If the dev team was real, they would prove it. Ask him why they won't simply prove it and dispel all this fud! He will give you an excuse that doesn't make sense. Like he has done so far.

What kind of dev team would refuse to talk to the community and investors during their own ICO? Frank is a fake profile.

If Frank was real he could make a 20 second video and shut down 50% of the fud in an instant. We already know what he looks like from his picture so claiming he wants to stay anonymous isn't a valid excuse.

Wassermans other excuse is that, they won't post a video or interview because they already decided they won't post a video or interview. Circular logic.

Like I said, most of these accounts are from noobs because we are the ones dumb enough to fall for this ICO. If you took time to read all of my questions, and wassersmans responses, you would be pretty convinced as well.

Because I was dumb and invested on the first day of ICO.

Then when the ICO fund raising started slowing down I tried to help. That is when I started to realize that the team isn't real.

Look he says they don't want to be 'exposed'. But they already released their picture, name and employer in the original announcement. How could a video reveal any more info than that?

He says they will do an interview but only AFTER they raise a lot of money in the ICO.. lol

Does anyone honestly think this excuse make sense?

Really funny things.  :D  Yeah, you guys give me 10k btc, and I will reveal myself as a scammer, is this correct wasserman? It is your logic.

Reading the thread makes me wonder why is it that mostly of the detractors are newbie accounts, Lets just wait till the ICO ends and if its going to be listed on an exchange, why not go to BITSYNQ thread and see what is happening to that coin ahaha.

It is probably because more experienced people avoided this ICO. Its mostly us noobies that jumped the gun and invested on day 1 and regret it.

People with experienced accounts saw this ICO and ignored it. Except for people like Kooke who support it no matter what. It is strange that he didn't make any post for 2 years and then suddenly started posting a week before the Opair ICO was announced. Probably a bought or stolen dead account. He also talks like Wasserman99. And he copy/paste the same opair crap as a response to hard questions, just like wasserman does.


Fake team, fake supporters but its hard to warn people because his thread is self moderated and he deletes a lot of stuff. =\

@findscam Your are a joke men. This is so obvious. Another newbie account that was created in the first days of August (as the others). Much coincidence haha. Please delete this troll comments and all their multiple accounts.

I continue with my research and I found another strange thing. All these accounts follow the same pattern. They write in the same hours (chinese, even most of them write on the china local board) and support Stratis (and attack Opair). My conclusion is that it is a Stratis investor fears that the launch of Opair damage his investment.

I deserve a bounty for this investigation haha  8). Here you can see some of these users:

findscam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=887071;sa=showPosts)
odgaard (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=887012;sa=showPosts)
altcoinlambo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=887040;sa=showPosts)
hugelobster (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=887089;sa=showPosts)
scammerdie (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886798;sa=showPosts)
christjesus911 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886683;sa=showPosts)
trilingualme (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=887001;sa=showPosts)
futurebillions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886665;sa=showPosts)
loveversace (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886711;sa=showPosts)
whenbuyhouse (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886728;sa=showPosts)
likevirgins (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886651;sa=showPosts)
icoprofit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886725;sa=showPosts)
wannaberich (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886727;sa=showPosts)
daobadico (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886733;sa=showPosts)
singaporedollar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886869;sa=showPosts)
emmarose (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=887011;sa=showPosts)
lovelybear (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=886794;sa=showPosts)

You are trapped, i demand an explanation for your actions.



Congrats!!!

Good health to Opair!

By the way, if you basement, kellendil or another that claim be an investor and want to exit, i will be happy to buy your account  ;)

You didn't post for 2 years and then came back and started posting a week before the Opair scam was announced. You keep supporting Opair and saying you don't even care if the dev team isn't real.

If I had a safe way to back out now I would do it for sure but you are obviously part of the scam.

thanx man for your hard investigation. i invested on this project,now i got faith on it. thanx again.

Does Satoshi ever ask for a single BTC? No! Nobody would complain, is wasserman develops some software first and offered it for free like Satoshi.

As he dont want this, you cant compare it.
That's right.  How I know, that jumping down from the 5th floor hurt me? It never happen to me. Learning from the past, searching parallels from other scams or making proper conclusion is just for loosers.

Your thinking is wrong. If wasserman wants money from someone, HE must proof that he doesn't want to scam them, not opposite. But if somebody doesn't want to proof it, it is a clear sign of scam.

So no wonder, that all people scream "scam".

Actually if you are serious, pick one of the escrow people in the top 3 here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0

You can buy my account for 0.30 btc

its worth .38255571 after the 25% bonus

If you were serious, prove it

Stop comparing an ICO with a fake dev team (which is fraud) to the bitcoin founders free open source software that was released with a pseudonym.


Using escrow does not mean there isn't a scam. Keep in mind the money doesn't go straight to SebastianJu, its sent to Wasserman99 and then he forwards it (so far). Also, they don't have any agreement in place about specific milestones, so wasserman could just copy paste code from other projects and ask for funds.

Most importantly if the dev team is a lie, then the ICO is still fraud and thus a scam even if the leader is planning on making a real coin.

We didn't voice our concerns before we invested because we didn't realize the team wasn't real. We were naive.


Not that it matters but Wasserman99 did say they would probably make a video..

lol I think you misunderstood. I don't think your comparison is fraud.

Running an ICO with a fake dev team is fraud. It is literally fraud.



I want to sell it before the ICO is over if I can. For obvious reasons!
I didn't think anyone would want to buy it from me after what has been said.

WTS: Opair .3 BTC ico account with 125% bonus (.38 btc after bonus value, ill accept .3 btc or best offer received before ico ends) via escrow... buyer beware opair ^

wasserman99 always copy and paste
why would anyone harm you if there is no purpose?

there is no point in keep anonymous and using fake profile, just show your self, and we will stop spam you
after you show your self, we also cannot do anything

Well time will tell if OPAIR ICO is scam or not. Most of the Coins these days are scam and the best way to scam is at the ICO.
OPAIR has also signature campaign and is quite popular ICO among the BTK Members

I feel there is really the need for the project to  push through since investors has already send btc.
but opair team should show good faith. They could have get more btc support if they just provide details of who they are. This is just what opair team can give to end all these series of scam accusation.

@enhu and @sweetbtc, please read my last post ..it's pretty clear what's going on here.

@kooke you're missing the point. it don't matter who those users trying to troll your ICO.
ITs your own ICO that you should fix. wasserman needs to have some leverage to give to his investors.  I don't give a fuck what will happen to that stratis scam. its your obvious Opair scam that you should Fix. if you don't understand that then opair deserve to be called scam.

electronicash, the only scammer here its you, not only for this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1590725.msg15980823#msg15980823 ...I did not want to make this public but you tried to extort us. With a fake account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=884263) you send me two messages on August 3th:

1) "hola, i can linked you to this dev
https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/19645-sovereign-coin-updates/
but i would rather do make arrangements with you.

an offer would be great."

2) "Opair can be good. all i want is an offer from you.

https://www.bitbond.com/listings/2A9BTB4939"

---

Obviously, I never answered this attempt to extort us and two days later you make this post (with your account) on our thread using the same weak argument: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1570330.msg15823407#msg15823407

As another users tell you before, you are one of these: a paid troll or a scammer.

It's a shame that people like you are part of the bitcoin community.

Regards

Explain this

Provide us the bitcoin address where all the coins are stored

Wasserman address received    116.14532724 BTC received, remaining 62.3366233 BTC

https://blockchain.info/address/1MtzCZpBLqmLNSEjoAxbLv2zCcAvrKyHm9

SebastinJu address received         37.23715693 BTC  received

https://blockchain.info/address/3JCsw5ZxyqdZqXTZa42225LakRdqgJqQck

Add both these 99.57 BTC

Where is the remaining ? 16.57 BTC

Found addresses. Dont know who own these. Searching for more. Will update

https://blockchain.info/address/1C8iNNi9y3gzz26qFAXXjbaGTTq4ZTEvax               2.47170498 BTC
https://blockchain.info/address/1GA4DTbCZ2Y3tA6CSs9UMNVhiD2bqV49md           1.3278757 BTC
https://blockchain.info/address/16q8AbmJCwJxZTGwqk2aZoNziLDEKDj1kC             2.5997757 BTC
https://blockchain.info/address/1MVkpA2TdXRUjnSD3AX5hx9uJrTu3GnU4E             0.4 BTC received (now zero)
https://blockchain.info/address/1LtZGq7psxkkD7qV8YvuoEFc4KMBEfdsiL                 2.07996051 BTC

@CoinManiac1, he already clarify your doubt in the other thread but you continue with the same, such a troll or newbie who knows...haha
Even BasementRot try to explain this to you  ;)

No problem mate  ;)

you dont have a heart kooke

wasserman you fuck, you deleted your post about me extorting you!  you could have get me in prison because its true! and i named myself hidemyself!
post it again and you  could be awarded with tons of green for exposing a scammer and extortionist!

??? Your message with your account is here (public): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1570330.msg15822920#msg15822920 and with the other account are in my inbox.

Anyone can now know what kind of person are you, a scammer and extortionist.

Regards

so can you show that message here?

You will never get out of your own story wasserman, you still is a failure developer of a scam coin. And you partnered up with another scam coin namely ADZcoin lol you used the post about me being the owner of that trafficbroker adnetwork in the adzcoin thread. That's how you answer the people questioning about your ICO inquiries.

I'm proving you are an extortionist. Thus you can not extort more people. Everyone will know what kind of person you are.

"failure developer of a scam coin."? We dont even finish the ICO, let us work in peace.

"so can you show that message here?"  Take a look:

https://i.imgur.com/k5sQv20.png

Stop extort!

Nice I did that? i should probably do that.  ;D

Thats the same guy i actually accuse you are you in this page https://farpa.bitcoinwallet.com/ and i thought you were from Portugal as it says here (https://www.facebook.com/Farpa) yet the truth is you are from Brazil? as it says in this page -  https://www.bitbond.com/listings/2A9BTB4939 which says Armando Farpa

Obviously, I never answered this attempt to extort us (we have nothing to do with that person) and two days later you make this post (with your account) on our thread using the same weak argument: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1570330.msg15823407#msg15823407

As another users tell you before, you are one of these: a paid troll or a scammer.

It's a shame that people like you are part of the bitcoin community.

Keep talking alone scammer.

Regards

That doesn't make me a scammer but just an extortionist. Anyhow there is no difference between them and both of you deserve to extort each other for attempting to accumulate bitcoin the kooke way.  ;D  It's a shame that you are part of the bitcoin community wasserman. and congrats us for wining against you scamming.

Wasserman, Kooke. Do you know each other? Are you working together?

I find it hard to trust you to deliver a coin and features since your dev team is fake.  :-\

farpa.bitcoinwallet.com
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I am nothing special, of this I am sure. I am a common man with common thoughts and I've led a common life. There are no monuments dedicated to me and my name will soon be forgotten, but I've loved another with all my heart and soul, and to me, this has always been enough..”
― Nicholas Sparks,

I see this Nicholas Sparks is the opair project host in github?  A Farpa.

now hold on. You're me again. are you? you're my alt?

anyway, you mean to say that these lines:

were posted on that github before he edited it? and should this mean that wasserman is  A Farpa?

Hahaha really? RichDaniel & electronicash, this is funny.

This was my message weeks ago, but i will repeat:

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You are a fucking scammer electronicash, karma will go for you!! You ask to wasserman for funds but he dont give you nothing and now you are furious haha, good luck the next time  ;)

LMAO, yes, I am your alt.   ;) ;) :D

Good idea. But first, let me sell you an investment in Opair.

@kookie

Do you know Wasserman99?

Why would you wait until the ICO is over? To find out if it was a scam first?

Relax Basement, unfortunately the money is lost, he (Isildur aka Kooke aka Tomsmith aka Wasserman aka Hao aka Frank) is just faking interest like so much other stuff is faked.

If he doesn't have 100 EUR in the End of the month left and need to wait for his salary, he shouldn't invest is such a risky thing like an ICO.

Lol, well I got no energie to read al these shit posts  :P

I shall see if it was worth investing or not when Opair launches, I don't really care for everyone's opinion and speculation here.

Of course with a video interview of the founder or sending all the funds to the escrow it would take away some people's fear of it being a scam.
But then people shouldn' had invested in the first place... I just sit out the ride and see what happens. Win some and lose some, it always goes like that with investing.

Wasserman, maybe you need some sleep?
This last post was so weird, can you please clear for me, and what you mean with "disappointment"?


Unfortunately there was never a chance to meet the Opair team in real life. So, it's not my fault. (And it would solve 90% of all request of this people here. But no, it is a campaign against Opair. Because they want to destroy the ICO. Looks like they succeed with the strong help of the marketing director  ;)  )

Good health to Opair!

Except the burden of proof needs to be on the people running the ICO. By the time we can "prove" that its a scam, it will be too late. Lots of people will be screwed out of their money and we would have watched it happen.

This ICO has some MAJOR red flags.

If you want to talk about logic, read the reason why they won't make a 20 second video to prove they are real.

Again some hidding. You can't speak clear, even when you hide behind your screen?

;D This is this typical wasserman logic. Yeah, Opair hasn't scammed anyone. Nobody tells this. But it has some serious hints, that it would scam. And when it is 100% sure, it is too late to prevent the scamming. If someone like "Dank Frank" or so is to lazy to read the thread and taking care of his money, not a problem.

But most people like to leave a frozen lake, when they realise that the ice is seriously cracking under them. They need to break in, to make it 100% sure, that the ice has been to thin.

Here the same, the risk to loose the invested money is clearly to high.


You don't need to explain me the difference between speculation and facts. And if you would read my post instead of deleting them, you would know, that I clear out, what are facts in my eyes and which are conclusions.

Good health to Opair!

May I clear one thing up? Isildur is a good friend of mine... Stop calling him wasserman you dumb fuck!

I think he is just confusing them because your friend is supporting a pretty obvious scam.

Kooke is doing the same, and its obvious that Kooke is wassermans puppet.

It could be a scam it also could be not, but calling everyone puppets or wasserman ain't gonna help the discussion. Kooke I don't take seriously myself but it's also hard to take most people serious in this thread.

We are all entitled to our opinion.

What a situation. I really hope it is legitimate.

That's true and I don't know wasserman too.


I just see the same weird logic, like "why to watch left and right, when I want to cross a street, let's wait until I have an accident, then we know for sure that there was a car approaching".

This is for everybody stupid, even small children learn it different. But being careful in an ICO? No, let's wait until you have a damage even when their are several red flags...

And the same like wasserman you are not dealing with facts. You ignore them by calling them speculation.



Good health to Opair!

Did you read my posts? For you one more time:


And wasserman can still provide some useless wallet or tell, he run out of money and it won't be literally scam.

But you or wasserman can really make a bet: I bet with you that Frank is a fake. We can use escrow and Frank need to show up in the following 14 days after the ICO ends and show himself and his ID card to the escrower. Are 5 BTC this worth for you or wasserman?

And please no "yes, but let's wait till end of ICO or so". If you want, send the money to such an escrow multisigned address. Nothing between and hiding by this typical blablabla.

If you read/understand my posting, then it is quite stupid from you to offer me such a wager. 3 days ago I already told, that i guess it is not typically scam, more a poor student. Why I should bet against my conclusion now?

So it is again this typical illogical thing, which wasserman all the time comes around. Are you sure, that you are not wasserman?


Looks like you know it too, that Frank is a fake. Thanks for confirming it that way!   ;)



Good health for Opair!

If Frank or Hao are fake people then Opair is, by definition fraud, and thus a scam.

Collecting startup/investment money for a company/group with fake employees is 100% fraud. Fraud is a scam.

is this wasserman?
see he dont have to hide, only need to do simple video prove he is him

If you guys can post using your real account, you can do so. it won't harm you if these scammer paint you red.



He suddenly change his name on github to wasserman when it used to be Nicholas Sparks.  
on an investigation, i landed on this page farpa.bitcoinwallet.com  
maybe its not that hard to find Farpa as my alt also found him.  ;D

Searching "Bitcoin Nicholas Sparks" on google will give farpa.bitcoinwallet.com as one of the page in the first page result.
Still this isn't a hundred percent proof. but the thing is that.. its very coincident to see them both likes nick sparks so much that they quote the author a lot.  
and both of them created coins as well.
This afarpa owns https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/19645-sovereign-coin-updates/
And wasserman owns the opair itself.
and both of them likes to ask altcoins so much.

requesting videos of the dev can be a battle.

If there was going to be a video they would have done it. Its pretty obvious they are fake profiles. To bad I didn't realize until I invested and started trying to help the ICO. When I couldn't get the coin founder to talk to me or the community I knew something was wrong.

Now the worst part is that people who don't speak english are getting scammed and we can't even warn them.


This forum is not properly equipped or designed to host ICOs.

I posted that in the opair thread and it got deleted lol.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1570330.0    This is the unmoderated thread.

Let me tell you guys that we have done our research and OPair is a confirmed scam. Ask for a refund from OP & Sebastian Escrow before its all over and they are gone.

Anyone reading these two messages will be able to understand what is happening here.



Good health to Opair!

Don't believe Kooke's BS, he is working with wasserman to defraud people of their money. Opairs dev team is fake, that has been pretty much confirmed.

why everyone keep helping to scam other people, the payment is not even big compared to KARMA of helping fraud, i my self become victim of someone advertise i see here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=search2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=search2) many ANN & bounties

will you wager ORACLE with me? it is similar with opair

so far the Opair guys are active and they are updating the official thread. updating the site, updating the ICO and running everything smoothly. if they had attention or had plan to scam people they would run away so long ago..

So you are saying that since they are still taking peoples money that it must not be a scam? They are still updating the ICO because people are sending them money. Why would they "run away long ago" when people are still sending money?  ::)

Remember, they switched to escrow because the ICO abruptly stopped making money and they basically had to. Now there is a lot of money in escrow that they may try to get by copying the open source code from other coins.

The most important thing to remember is that if someone raises money for a company that has fake employees (and in this case fake founder). That is fraud.

Even if they deliver a functional coin, it is still pretty obvious that Opair is a scam.

But don't expect great things from someone who is willing to lie to get your money.

Not having empirical evidence of fraud shouldn't lead you to assume something has an even chance to be legit or a scam. We can't 100% prove that Frank is fake, but given the situation and wassermans responses, we can be pretty sure. Or at least I can be.

They are activitists, kooke said 2 words accounts are belonging to one guy who intentionally attack opair, his word is bullshit, none sense like wasserman.

Opair is a scam and there are many easy ways to tell, here is just one of them.

I suggest you guys ask for your money back before it is too late.

https://i.imgur.com/icBHSsk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/fUHq300.png

What do you mean? You mean the cv and introduction is copied the guy below?

clear my name at oracle accusation you damn it
may your family and child get KARMA being treat bad by other people

Yes.

Try not to be influenced by those looking to get paid for posting about the coin

I'm still waiting for a refund. Why don't you go after the guy and post results? If you are a known and influential person in Indonesia, you can sure make a few calls

If we call, maybe they can is too easy to reject and not guarantee to get fast our fund. But if we have access to government the refund process is easier.

@wtman and @sontoloyo you can PM me, maybe I can help...

The escrow service will release btc soon, but it should not since its a scam.

Who said escrow (SebastianJu) would release money soon? I doubt that is true unless you know something that I don't.

I don't see why Sebastian would hold it though, its stated in their contracts that he will sent he funds after 7 days so long as the wallets are already set and ready.
Not sure if he will hold it and consider the users who scream scam to opair.

If funds are released, just say good bye to your btc.

Where is the contract that you are talking about?

well, vouching for an altcoin is not a good thing. I don't prefer to do that(nor I ma doing that), Beccause an altcoin can turn into scam anytime. no one can guarantee that which altcoin is correct(specially new alts)

but I am following their Main announcement thread,.
to be honest I didn't see any scammy thing. Escrow is very important thing. I agree they should use escrow from the bigging but there are a lot of ICO's have been done successfully without escrow. but they started using escrow right away and they've done their ICO quite successfully.
and they are active in the forum and giving updates everyday. now they are launching their wallet and saying that the coin will be add on the exchanges in shortly.

I don't know about screenshots etc, but what I know is this is not a sign of scammers. or simply they haven't declared scammers yet.

I think this is so hurry to call someone scammer until they are giving efforts and active constantly.

they will be scammers if they:
1: don't launch the coin, don't launch the wallet and don't add the coin in the exchanges,
2: Turn of the site (where everyone have their ICO shares)
3: if they went off-line from the forum and stopped updating the thread.
then we can say that this is a scam coin.


Yeah man it doesn't make sense anymore. if they are scammers then they almost stolen all investment. there is chance that they will reback investors money just for asking that...

And then it is too late...


To safe your money you must predict from given hints. I don't tell that it is scam, but there are hints, that shows a higher risk that it is scam than normal ICOs. And the ICO shows very clear signs, that it won't be a successful coin. The ICO already violated the law several times and if I interpret the feedback from wasserman proper, he don't want to pay taxes for the ICO money. Means he and all ICO member must stay anonymous in the future. This will be bad for the coin too.

The dev team is fake. Frank and Hao aren't real or they would have proved it. The reason they don't prove it (wasserman says they want to stay anon) does not make sense. They already released their (fake) linkedin profiles with full name, employer and a picture at the start of the ICO.

What kind of coin founder wouldn't participate in the ICO or talk to the community at all during it? What kind of dev team would let this easily dispelled FUD cost their ICO a bunch of money?

Frank and Hao are obviously fake, if they were real then we would know it by now.

Raising money to start a company using fake employees is fraud. Fraud is a scam. Therefor Opair is a scam.


I am tired of explaining this to people who are essentially saying "Don't call them a scammer until they run away with everyone's money". That mentality is what makes the bitcointalk.org announcement forum a scammers paradise.

The devs description was clearly stolen if someone can be bothered to spend a few minutes looking at the screenshots posted above. The ones saying its not a scam are either wassermans own partners and fake accounts, or they are the ones getting paid to promote opair. There are clear icentives for saying good things about opair as mentioned on the thread itself. This is not surprising at all. One has to be really lazy and new to crypto to get scammed with opair.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1558596.msg16105634#msg16105634

Interesting thing, SebastianJu is definitely best escrow who also check the project is scam or not.  Let's hope the best result happen, phase 2 get refund if the project turns out to be the scam. wasserman run away with 60 btc fund(which is a huge fraud)

Quote from: wasserman99 on August 29, 2016, 11:26:32 PM
Hi,

The expenses are for:

1) Salaries. We are a team of three but we want to add one-two more.
2) Marketing pre -ico
3) Signature
4) Marketing pro -ico
5) Legal fee. Organize a structure.

Before spending more funds we need to have confirmation of our agreement. It is not the same organize a work plan, considering that we have 70 btc or 150 btc.  Even we can not make the disitribución

@electroniccash, I think you said wasserman is a Brazilian who speaks Portuguese, wasserman typed this word "disitribución" is a Portuguese word?

Good find.   ;D

wasserman to SebastianJu: "If you decide for the option 1 you are killing the project because with only 70 btc minus 7-8 btc from signature campaign, legal fees and marketing expenses is very low amount to do something."

IMO this situation is done by wasserman, he insisted to decline the interview to proof the devs' identities. He deserves this.  >:(

disitribución could be distribution (english) / distribucion (spanish) / distribution (french) / distribució (catalan) / distribuição (portuguese)

Now its time to every investor go to the main thread and give his view.

Good health to Opair!

With all the presentations that were given starting from the OP, this ICO is screaming in BIG RED Letters.. It is definitely a SCAM!

Like i said in the beginning its a SCAM.

you accuse wrong people, YOU NEED TO PROVE the guy you accuse in DETAIL, not only based only accusing in random.
im not that influential person in Indonesia, i have already made a phone call, its random number, because you even only got fake number

i even do the whatsapp, but not to fery you accuse
but to pravin budhiya INDIA +91 99988 58273 but even knowing the number, i dont know what to say anymore, "im not like you screaming2 scam and stupidly ask for refund, which the scammer will not refund" and im not even sure pravin is the one

even more you accusing me, you need to prove in detail, if i am is him fflaguna

https://www.mystellar.org/AASEMENTARA/temporary%20Oracle%201.jpg
https://www.mystellar.org/AASEMENTARA/temporary%20Oracle%202.jpg
https://www.mystellar.org/AASEMENTARA/temporary%20Oracle%203.jpg
https://www.mystellar.org/AASEMENTARA/temporary%20Oracle%204.jpg

Why don't you go your self and post results too? if you can trace this guy at all then ALL INVESTORS NEED TO WORK TOGETHER..

backup from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1558596.msg16105634#msg16105634 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1558596.msg16105634#msg16105634)


now im believing in SebastianJu, he got my trust

i learn a lot from oracle and opair

It is so funny, many people want to release the fund, so they should check this thread for the answer.  :(  If they all read it and start to think with brain, they will not hope SebastianJu releases the fund.

Who wants to release the funds? It are just kooke and wasserman, majority in the thread trust SJ to hold the coins.

I saw this, kooke said there are 15 ppl, therefore i wrote many ppl.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1558596.msg16122869#msg16122869

BTW, looks like kooke is wasserman's shill or alt, he likes copy-paste, and defames those 2-word acccount scam busters as "competitor's shills". ROFLMAO.

This ICO has become one of the most crazy ICO ever. There had been users telling the investors that this ICO is scam yet it still recieves BTC funds, these investors didn't read comments but only the first page post?

 I don't think they want the funds release now that they niw realize a possible scam.

Kooke is wassermans alt or wife or manlover. Both of their accounts went idle in late October 2014 and came back right before Opair. Kooke came back a week before Opair was announced. I've asked them a bunch what their relationship is but they refuse to answer. If we would have asked at start of ICO I'm sure they would have said they don't know each other.

Frank, you know this wasserman is ready to run away with 65 btc fund, but he thought the other part of 85 btc is easy to cheat from SJ, therefore he wanted to get that money asap. SJ is a great escrow. Wasserman's eyes are full of money

The most possible explanation is the scammer bought these 2 accounts, wasserman for scamming, kooke for shilling. Many ico scams did the same trick, buy olds registered account.

Oh no..
He mistakenly wrote "disitribución" because he is just used to writing Portuguese even when his keyword is set for English.
Its too late for him to actually admit he is Armando Farpa for he had already denied it. Now there is no way he can show up on the camera.  And this means scamming is the only way and will do awful awful things to get the btcs from SJ.

I hope people did not lose too much money on this scam. I tried to warn people in the other thread but obviously Armando Farpa was deleting my posts. How much did the ico end up raising?

BTC150 from which BTC84+ are in escrow.

They accused me had a campaign to against them, it is so fucking sick. As a scam buster, I am always against scammers.

Chinese saying goes that The villain sues his victim Before he himself is prosecuted.

Send wasserman99 a message to vote against him getting the 9% opair coins that were suppose to be reserved for PoW. He's putting on some kind of BS vote trying to get more money  >:(

Wow. Too much was scammed here. That's why I only invest in public dev icos from now on. You should make it a habit too.

How is going? Will SJU release fund to wasser?

wasserman needs to release wallet first, and investors on phase 2 can get a refund untill he does.

All ICO's are scam/ponzi along with all the altcoins. (Except litecoin and maybe monero) You should have figured out by now. Please do not support those scams anymore.

ETH, MAIDSAFE, STORJ, NXT, XEM, STRATIS, LISK are all ico coins, and their ICO investors make money, I don't think these profitable icos are scams.

Damn, I found some new proofs.

The biggest escrow scammer master-P, his trust page:  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=89329

The scam accusation against master-P: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306301.0

According to Theymos(BCTalk admin): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306301.msg13460760#msg13460760


ShameOnYou is a big scammer(bought account scammer):  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=131712

His usecoin ico scam OP:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=735355.0

After listed on bittrex, he has dumped pre-mine coin, I don't know how much he scammed, should be 50-200 btc.

Clustercoin is also a 2014 scam, their ico was hosted on bittrex, people found the proofs of scam, and bittrex cancelled the ico, and finally refunded investors:  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753089.0

So the source is very possible like this: master-P's alts: kooke, ShameOnYou(bought account scammer)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=754544.msg8513806#msg8513806


My conclusion: Wasserman99 and Kooke maybe bought accounts too, the same old scammer behind: clustercoin scam and usecoin scam, because people found their post history is very similar, the time and post way.

I will repost my research to SJ.

Since with what I have read so far it doesnt seems you have been scammed so I add to others to tell you to wait and dont forget to update the thread if it eventually gets resolved or otherwise. I think we can give some time..Maybe Opair come back and do not Scam us :(

This could be one of the reason to simply ask the account sellers to report who they sold their accounts for it could certainly help track who's who in the community. obviously the wolves hides amidst the pack of sheep.

Some people try to do it as much as possible, by leaving neutral feedback, but indeed if i ever sold my account I would leave that neutral feedback myself.

Thank you for letting us know.

Could you tell us about DeClouds , is it also scam?

This is interesting. Thanks for posting. I never knew theymous could pair ip's with different accounts.

not sure though but i think it can be done inside the phpmyadmin to which an administrator can access accounts inside the database.
i think an admin can just put the ip addresses and then it will show which users have used a single ip.

I don't have a deep research on DeClouds, if more people complain it, I will do deep research on DeClouds. It seems legit so far.  :)

Fortunately I see it before wasserman99 deleted it, so let see the truth.

opair ico not scam friend
wallet ready distribution to buyer ico ok
distribution participan signature campaign ok and finish
so your wait opair listing to exchanger

Warnings, declouds is big scam, confirmed, news is fake, photos are photoshoped.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1552176.msg16380444#msg16380444

The scammer locked the thread, it is a scam.

Not locked, opair op is open, what do you refer?  ???

these are the photos.

Compare:

https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*gj-79AHXrFP3cuwEgAfT2Q.jpeg

http://aktion-pro-aktie.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/aktion-pro-aktie-pressekonferenz-8.jpg

oh god they're busted. i do think theymos should moderate dev team doing ICO for it will ruin the whole community in the end. Maybe he can require these dev team to provide proof of Identity.

What a crappy photoshop job. Can't people tell by the lighting on the guy at the podium?

That is probably the reason someone got suspicious and checked the site of that German bank.

Good find.  :)

It was already suspicious from the start, someone already asked valid questions and the scammer can only do is to evade and ignore the question but cos of stupid shills defending the scam + signature campaign the scam was a success.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=85229

Kooke is obvious wasserman's shill account, last active was 13th of September, after ico ended he disappeared, it is illogical he is offline after ico, because he must have questions about ico coin distribution.

If he is a real buyer, he should come to hype this shit coin.

Wasserman and and both are bought accounts, the reason why they refused to prove the identities of frank and hao is that no these devs are real at all.

You missed this post?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1558596.msg16283593;topicseen#msg16283593  :P

Yeah I believe as well that they are the same person, I checked their posts a while back and both showed up arround the same time for opair after not posting since end 2014.

i need help, i got fraud by twitter campaign https://twitter.com/OracleCoin (https://twitter.com/OracleCoin)
as amount of 10BTC
it is raising ICO but never give any news or update

after sometime, its revealing it self
and i trace it related to Lykke.com (http://Lykke.com)

the fraud is using this thread ORACLE PROJECT / ORACLE COIN
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1570693.msg15926718 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1570693.msg15926718)

please someone help me, could anyone contact Lykke founder and team
kindly help




IF ITS NOT A SCAM than i will personally apologize, dan clear his name and erase all acussations, but i doubt so much, and im very desperate

PLEASE KINDLY HELP me investigate

who knows this also related to opair, its almost at the same moment

Probably, info about Wasserman99

Scam confirmed, who didn't listen to me, who did trust them(wasser-ass and kooke-ass, and those shills for them)? Please come and apologize, you guys defended for scammers, what a fucking joke.

I'm very happy that I didn't invest in Opair.
And the credit goes to you. After reading this thread, I dropped the idea of investing in this ico.

You also saved me from Declouds scam. I think you were the first one to point out that picture,.

Well, how many btc did he scam?

I read somewhere that scammer of Declouds and Opair is same. Is it true?

They react in a way that an investor has put some money to the ICO. Its normal to defend what they tend to invest - forget asking for apology. But they should by now listen to people like you who can save them for all the troubles.

And all the funds are moved https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1MtzCZpBLqmLNSEjoAxbLv2zCcAvrKyHm9

And the original thread has been locked. R.I.P opair...

77.55243939 btc  :o !!!!
It's a big deal create a scam coin :(  :'(
this is really sad :(

You guys should be buzzing him up on facebook and his friends Afarpa is a scam. His real account here is Farpa. He has facebook account and you can check his bitbond account where his real friends are.

I fuck your mon and dad, wasserman shit and kooke bastard, scammers your ass is rotten.

He scammed for a total of 165 btc, and he did made some costs to get a qt walet, a block explorer and the listing on yobit.
It is indeed sad that some people still scam, but there is also partially blame on ICO phase 2 investors who refused to see all the red flags after the ICO was over and didn't asked for a refund. I do feel sorry for the phase 1 investors who had no longer a choice.


I hope some people will be hunting him, what I wonder since declouds used basically the same references as opair on linkedin could you find any more prove connecting those 2 ICO's?
 

Are you sure that is really him? What country does he live in?

Even if its not him, i proved him to be a scam. Farpa a.k.a Armando has been soliciting money through gofund me sites by posting someone from Brazil wanting to go home but can't because the person is now disabled and no money at all, only to find out he has an account to some bitcoin forum as a dev of a shitcoin. That itself is a shady thing.  ;D

there is to many scam in this bitcointalk, and no measure taken to help the victims, actually i really regret knowing this forum

Sorry, I warned everybody early enough. But nobody really listen.

BTW., I plan to offer a escrow+ service. Means it will be much less risk for the investors. A bit due diligence, check for the business plan, identification and if there is some hassle, I can offer arbitration too.

So watch out, if you can see ICOs supported by me with escrow+  ;-)

there is more trusted escrows than you. and they are already handling most of ICOs and trying to make them safe. but scammers will still make their way. Opair was also escrowed by SebastianJu.. but they still scammed by dumping the coin in the exchange.

It is not only the question of being trusted, it is the question, which skills an escrower has and if he has an insurance for escrowing.

For example in the opair ICO have been very weak escrow rules. Wasn't it, that the funds should be paid in parts? And why this didn't happen? This agreement was useless AND harmful, because people thought an investment would be more safe.

If I escrow such a suspicous ICO, I would invest a bit more efforts just because people trust in ME and I don't want, that they need to regret it. This is, what I mean by escrow+.

SebastianJu is very trusted like you said, but he was the escrow of opair, he was responsible for left 85 btc fund, but he still can't prevent wasserman from scamming the coins.

You can't prevent this 100%, but why the escrow partner didn't demand a video interview? Why the btc haven't been handed out to wasserman by parts, like it was promised? It would make the scam much more difficult.


There have been so much hints, that it is scam, so it not only a question of trust, it is a question of skills to minimize the risk of being scammed.

I agree with you, and it were the investors who insisted on releasing the funds and SJ didn't really wanted to he spoke out his concerns many times, everyone had a chance on a refund but they didn't take it, even worst some of them who wanted to get out wanted to get back in because of a cheap crappy QT wallet. Those people needed a hard lesson obviously. There's nothing we can blame on SJ.

I don't want to blame SJ.

I just want to point out, that if a skilled escrow partner set up tighter rules, the scam would be minimized.

Like video chat. Like check of identity.

Later SJ was catched and he tried to make the best out of it.

Even if Identity would be verified by escrow, what would be the benefit?
Do you expect the escrow to file a case on investor's behalf in law court?

I don't think any escrow would want to go to court to report scam.

- Knowing the real identiy will prevent, that the same person scam twice or more often.

- "Going to court" is up to how good the escrow partner is paid  ;D

- If a scammer is from Europe I can report an offence in approx. 2h. In a way, that the prosecutor can build up his charge on this report.

- But at minium the escrow partner could provide this information to a investor, who sue the scammer, or to the prosecutor itself (if someone else report this offence).

All this will make it seriously more difficult to scam people here.

I agree with you. Escrows should do more investigation and confirmation about the project they are going to escrow. but sadly most of escrows just care about their percentage they are getting from that ICO. but when ICO fail than the escrow will be guilty.. so escrow person should be more strict.

how to report an offence?
anyone have a hint on how? and who would handle this

How can I transfer coins to Yobit if my wallet doesn't sync anymore ?

you have opair in your wallet and you want to send it to yobit and dump them?   :D
i'm sorry i've just been roaming in the forum for quite awhile just reading but you made my day. you mean you kept that long enough lol  did you know we have dumped all the opair we have even before the ico end?

kept the wallet running on a old computer and totally forgot about it.... and it'S not syncing....
there is still buyers, so why not sell...

So no news here ?!

i can't believe you expect something else from a scammer apart from scamming again. there is no news o this opair for months already because opair is a scam. if that ain't getting into you brain, i don't know what will.

---- WHAT TO MAKE OF THIS? ----

From a news letter seemingly coming from OpenLedger.

XPO Gateway Now Open on OpenLedger DEX
 
Powered by its coin XPO, Opair is a cryptocurrency platform that utilizes proof-of-stake consensus protocol with an average blocktime of 60 seconds. The name “Opair” comes from the combination of words “open” and “fair”, referring to the fact that its code is open-source and that 100% of its tokens are distributed fairly, leaving no coins in the hands of developers.

The platform will feature:

    Colored Coins – colored coins are a method of tying real-life assets, like stocks, bonds and futures, to the Opair blockchain. Colored coins make it possible to transfer these assets onto the blockchain, with superior speed and lower cost, while eliminating third-parties;
    Smart contracts – automated, self-fulfilling contracts on the blockchain;
    Marketplace with decentralized reputations system – the Opair’s market allows users to buy and sell products and services. After purchases buyers can qualify the seller to increase trust and transparency;
    Private chains – companies and organizations can create their own private chains for their business;
    Alias system – instead of long addresses, Opair looks to incorporate shorter aliases;
    Decentralized debit cards – debit card payments with cryptocurrencies don’t require middlemen, thus reducing cost;
    Crowdfunding – start-ups can pitch their ideas and can receive funding for their projects.

Start trading today on www.openledger.io