OPAIR ICO=SCAM!!

[wtman]

Let me tell you guys that we have done our research and OPair is a confirmed scam. Ask for a refund from OP & Sebastian Escrow before its all over and they are gone.

[kooke]

Anyone reading these two messages will be able to understand what is happening here.

Update

This certainly is a campaign designed to harm us. 90 percent of users who wrote in this thread are newbies accounts created less than a month ago. They can all be the same person Hopefully are not people from other projects that want us out of the way for fear of competition.

We will not let your attempt to FUD us make us effect and we will honor all our promises.

They just want our project to fail or I disappear to say that they were right. But we will show them they are wrong and we will draw our platform forward. Fortunately, investors continue to give us their support and dont believe in the accusations of these people.

I hope that third parties can read the thread objectively and draw their own conclusions.

I will repeat my last message, because it is quite clear:

There is no question. Everything was clear in our thread. On our team we decided not to make a video interview at this stage of the process and for that we receive attacks from some users. Beyond that there is nothing.

Just because we do not make a video call, for the reasons already set up hundreds of times, it does not make us better or worse proposal, just different.

We just want to let us work in peace. We are offer a full escrow with SebastianJu and he will release the funds to us by PARTS!!!!! If we dont deliver or stop develop he will refund to everyone.

Even, we know that the two features that highlight in our project are the use of functional programming and decentralized debits cards, which both go to be our two main pillars. We are going to focus and develop these characteristics no matter how much funding we get.

We keep our promise. Time will prove us right. Whoever wants to trust us is welcome.

Regards

PS: If no one wants to invest in our project or wait until the end of ICO to invest are free to do so.

@pradalady hahaha another troll, you are part of this list 

Everyone, please read my last post ..it's pretty clear what's going on here.

@findscam Your are a joke men. This is so obvious. Another newbie account that was created in the first days of August (as the others). Much coincidence haha. Please delete this troll comments and all their multiple accounts.

I continue with my research and I found another strange thing. All these accounts follow the same pattern. They write in the same hours (chinese, even most of them write on the china local board) and support Stratis (and attack Opair). My conclusion is that it is a Stratis investor fears that the launch of Opair damage his investment.

I deserve a bounty for this investigation haha  . Here you can see some of these users (there are more):

findscam
odgaard
altcoinlambo
hugelobster
scammerdie
christjesus911
trilingualme
futurebillions
loveversace
whenbuyhouse
likevirgins
icoprofit
wannaberich
daobadico
singaporedollar
emmarose
lovelybear

You are trapped, i demand an explanation for your actions.

Even they use the same structure, all of them use two words like: huge-lobster, scammer-die, future-billions, love-versace, find-scam, like-virgins, singapore-dollar, lovely-bear, ico-profit and now, prada-lady. So go to another place with your accounts.

Anyone really think these people are disconnected between them ? It is so clear.

Good health to Opair!

[BasementRot]

Don't believe Kooke's BS, he is working with wasserman to defraud people of their money. Opairs dev team is fake, that has been pretty much confirmed.

[violet.project]

He doesn't even know me but thinks I am wasserman ..

That's true and I don't know wasserman too.


I just see the same weird logic, like "why to watch left and right, when I want to cross a street, let's wait until I have an accident, then we know for sure that there was a car approaching".

This is for everybody stupid, even small children learn it different. But being careful in an ICO? No, let's wait until you have a damage even when their are several red flags...

And the same like wasserman you are not dealing with facts. You ignore them by calling them speculation.



Good health to Opair!

Well put your money where your mouth is then? Lets have a wager on it? I will wager btc or my account or even both that Opair isn't a scam ..

So there it is, are you man enough to accept or will you chicken out with some lame excuse ?

why everyone keep helping to scam other people, the payment is not even big compared to KARMA of helping fraud, i my self become victim of someone advertise i see here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=search2 many ANN & bounties

will you wager ORACLE with me? it is similar with opair

[checkmatesir]

What a situation. I really hope it is legitimate.

so far the Opair guys are active and they are updating the official thread. updating the site, updating the ICO and running everything smoothly. if they had attention or had plan to scam people they would run away so long ago..

[BasementRot]

What a situation. I really hope it is legitimate.

so far the Opair guys are active and they are updating the official thread. updating the site, updating the ICO and running everything smoothly. if they had attention or had plan to scam people they would run away so long ago..

So you are saying that since they are still taking peoples money that it must not be a scam? They are still updating the ICO because people are sending them money. Why would they "run away long ago" when people are still sending money? 

Remember, they switched to escrow because the ICO abruptly stopped making money and they basically had to. Now there is a lot of money in escrow that they may try to get by copying the open source code from other coins.

The most important thing to remember is that if someone raises money for a company that has fake employees (and in this case fake founder). That is fraud.

Even if they deliver a functional coin, it is still pretty obvious that Opair is a scam.

But don't expect great things from someone who is willing to lie to get your money.

[BasementRot]

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Me taking a wager on anything doesn't represent anything other than gambling. That bet would of been a gamble because it could go either way. Red flags + no evidence = 50% outcome which is better than 49.50% outcome that I get at the casinos.

If you want to wager on ICO outcomes then go to the gambling section, only reason I wanted to wager him because I was heated at how moronic iudica (richgang shill) is. I'm not sure if the website linked to his account reflects on him because no lawyer could be that blind in understanding how evidence vs speculations work. Sure he did give a lot of facts, but that was to illustrate that the red flags are present. We all know this lol, but the fact of red flags vs the end result of it being a scam or not is not the same thing.

Red flags lead up to scam/no scam, red flags does not equate to scam the same way false positives does not equate to virus.

Not having empirical evidence of fraud shouldn't lead you to assume something has an even chance to be legit or a scam. We can't 100% prove that Frank is fake, but given the situation and wassermans responses, we can be pretty sure. Or at least I can be.

[pradalady]

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Me taking a wager on anything doesn't represent anything other than gambling. That bet would of been a gamble because it could go either way. Red flags + no evidence = 50% outcome which is better than 49.50% outcome that I get at the casinos.

If you want to wager on ICO outcomes then go to the gambling section, only reason I wanted to wager him because I was heated at how moronic iudica (richgang shill) is. I'm not sure if the website linked to his account reflects on him because no lawyer could be that blind in understanding how evidence vs speculations work. Sure he did give a lot of facts, but that was to illustrate that the red flags are present. We all know this lol, but the fact of red flags vs the end result of it being a scam or not is not the same thing.

Red flags lead up to scam/no scam, red flags does not equate to scam the same way false positives does not equate to virus.

Not having empirical evidence of fraud shouldn't lead you to assume something has an even chance to be legit or a scam. We can't 100% prove that Frank is fake, but given the situation and wassermans responses, we can be pretty sure. Or at least I can be.

They are activitists, kooke said 2 words accounts are belonging to one guy who intentionally attack opair, his word is bullshit, none sense like wasserman.

[wtman]

Opair is a scam and there are many easy ways to tell, here is just one of them.

I suggest you guys ask for your money back before it is too late.

[durrrrdwan]

Opair is a scam and there are many easy ways to tell, here is just one of them.

I suggest you guys ask for your money back before it is too late.

What do you mean? You mean the cv and introduction is copied the guy below?

[violet.project]

Opair is a scam and there are many easy ways to tell, here is just one of them.

I suggest you guys ask for your money back before it is too late.

clear my name at oracle accusation you damn it
may your family and child get KARMA being treat bad by other people

[wtman]

Opair is a scam and there are many easy ways to tell, here is just one of them.

I suggest you guys ask for your money back before it is too late.

What do you mean? You mean the cv and introduction is copied the guy below?

Yes.

Try not to be influenced by those looking to get paid for posting about the coin

[wtman]

Opair is a scam and there are many easy ways to tell, here is just one of them.

I suggest you guys ask for your money back before it is too late.

clear my name at oracle accusation you damn it
may your family and child get KARMA being treat bad by other people

I'm still waiting for a refund. Why don't you go after the guy and post results? If you are a known and influential person in Indonesia, you can sure make a few calls

[Sontoloyo]

I'm still waiting for a refund. Why don't you go after the guy and post results? If you are a known and influential person in Indonesia, you can sure make a few calls

If we call, maybe they can is too easy to reject and not guarantee to get fast our fund. But if we have access to government the refund process is easier.

[iudica]

@wtman and @sontoloyo you can PM me, maybe I can help...

[wtman]

The escrow service will release btc soon, but it should not since its a scam.

[BasementRot]

The escrow service will release btc soon, but it should not since its a scam.

Who said escrow (SebastianJu) would release money soon? I doubt that is true unless you know something that I don't.

[electronicash]

The escrow service will release btc soon, but it should not since its a scam.

I don't see why Sebastian would hold it though, its stated in their contracts that he will sent he funds after 7 days so long as the wallets are already set and ready.
Not sure if he will hold it and consider the users who scream scam to opair.

If funds are released, just say good bye to your btc.

[BasementRot]

The escrow service will release btc soon, but it should not since its a scam.

I don't see why Sebastian would hold it though, its stated in their contracts that he will sent he funds after 7 days so long as the wallets are already set and ready.
Not sure if he will hold it and consider the users who scream scam to opair.

If funds are released, just say good bye to your btc.

Where is the contract that you are talking about?

[traderbit]

well, vouching for an altcoin is not a good thing. I don't prefer to do that(nor I ma doing that), Beccause an altcoin can turn into scam anytime. no one can guarantee that which altcoin is correct(specially new alts)

but I am following their Main announcement thread,.
to be honest I didn't see any scammy thing. Escrow is very important thing. I agree they should use escrow from the bigging but there are a lot of ICO's have been done successfully without escrow. but they started using escrow right away and they've done their ICO quite successfully.
and they are active in the forum and giving updates everyday. now they are launching their wallet and saying that the coin will be add on the exchanges in shortly.

I don't know about screenshots etc, but what I know is this is not a sign of scammers. or simply they haven't declared scammers yet.

I think this is so hurry to call someone scammer until they are giving efforts and active constantly.

they will be scammers if they:
1: don't launch the coin, don't launch the wallet and don't add the coin in the exchanges,
2: Turn of the site (where everyone have their ICO shares)
3: if they went off-line from the forum and stopped updating the thread.
then we can say that this is a scam coin.

Opair is a scam and there are many easy ways to tell, here is just one of them.

I suggest you guys ask for your money back before it is too late.

How would asking for your money back before it's too late help? If this is a scam then all funds are gone already and no one will be getting anything back.

Yeah man it doesn't make sense anymore. if they are scammers then they almost stolen all investment. there is chance that they will reback investors money just for asking that...