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Hi folks, I share with you a list with the value I see altcoins will minimum touch in a year from now.

I will only put the list of alts that I think you can profit with the less risk, that doesn't mean that the other ones cannot grow.

It's not the first, the second or the third time I do that, but now I'm gonna make it public for you.

No bullshit, just help for the community. ;)


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RIPPLE (XRP)

$ 216,118,545

OBJECTIVE: $ 1,5 B

POTENTIAL: X6.9


LITECOIN (LTC)

$ 180,603,554

OBJECTIVE: $ 500 M

POTENTIAL: X2.77


LISK (LSK)

$ 26,541,000   

OBJECTIVE: $ 150 M

POTENTIAL: X5.75


DOGECOIN (DOGE)

$ 23,935,164

OBJECTIVE: $ 100 M

POTENTIAL: X4.16


BITSHARES (BTS)

$ 14,283,627

OBJECTIVE: $ 75 M

POTENTIAL: X5.25


PEERCOIN (PPC)

$ 8,456,763

OBJECTIVE: $ 40 M

POTENTIAL: X4.7


COUNTERPARTY (XCP)

$ 7,445,483

OBJECTIVE: $ 25 M

POTENTIAL: X3.35


NAMECOIN (NMC)

$ 4,147,663

OBJECTIVE: $ 15 M

POTENTIAL: X3.75


DECRED (DCR)

$ 3,679,589

OBJECTIVE: $ 15 M

POTENTIAL: X4.1


BITCOINDARK (BTCD)

$ 3,328,264

OBJECTIVE: $ 15 M  $ 25 M

POTENTIAL: X7.3


DIGIBYTE (DGB)

$ 2,222,867

OBJECTIVE: $ 10 M

POTENTIAL: X4.5


BLACKCOIN (BLK)

$ 2,215,688

OBJECTIVE: $ 25 M

POTENTIAL: X11.35


VCASH (XVC)

$ 1,795,113   

OBJECTIVE: $ 5 M  $ 7.5 M  $ 15 M

POTENTIAL: X8.3


VERICOIN (VRC)

$ 1,383,982

OBJECTIVE: $ 4 M

POTENTIAL: X2.9


REDDCOIN (RDD)

$ 1,009,380

OBJECTIVE: $ 5 M

POTENTIAL: X5


PRIMECOIN (XPM)

$ 1,008,568

OBJECTIVE: $ 5 M

POTENTIAL: X5


VERTCOIN (VTC)

$ 901,980

OBJECTIVE: $ 5 M

POTENTIAL: X5.5


GULDEN (NLG)                               COMPLETED    07/10/2016

$ 829,296   

OBJECTIVE: $ 3 M

POTENTIAL: X3.6


STARTCOIN (START)

$ 669,435

OBJECTIVE: $ 4 M

POTENTIAL: X6


QORA (QORA)

$ 637,428

OBJECTIVE: $ 3 M  $ 5 M

POTENTIAL: X4.7  X7.85


MEGACOIN (MEC)

$ 591,101

OBJECTIVE: $ 2 M

POTENTIAL: X3.4


BURST (BURST)

$ 507,460

OBJECTIVE: $ 3 M

POTENTIAL: X5.9


AEON (AEON)                 COMPLETED    29/08/2016

$ 340,658   

OBJECTIVE: $ 1.5 M

POTENTIAL: X4.4


POTCOIN (POT)                                          COMPLETED    07/10/2016

$ 314,322

OBJECTIVE: $ 1.5 M

POTENTIAL: X4.75


FLORINCOIN (FLO)

$ 312,810

OBJECTIVE: $ 1.5 M

POTENTIAL: X4.75


UNOBTANIUM (UNO)

$ 294,445   

OBJECTIVE: $ 1.5 M

POTENTIAL: X5.1


BOOLBERRY (BBR)

$ 252,284   

OBJECTIVE: $ 2 M

POTENTIAL: X8


VIACOIN (VIA)

$ 237,325

OBJECTIVE: $ 2 M

POTENTIAL: X8.4


HORIZON (HZ)                               COMPLETED    14/10/2016

$ 145,720

OBJECTIVE: $ 750 K

POTENTIAL: X5.15


GEOCOIN (GEO)

$ 142,858

OBJECTIVE: $ 600 K

POTENTIAL: X4.2


MAGI (XMG)

$ 99,903

OBJECTIVE: $ 500 K

POTENTIAL: X5


STRATIS (STRAT)

$2,213,215

OBJECTIVE: 10 M $

POTENTIAL: X4.5



VOXELS (VOX)                       FAIL  (I'm sorry)

$1,363,238

OBJECTIVE: 5 M $

POTENTIAL: X3.65






GAMECREDITS (GAME)


$ 8,847,675

OBJECTIVE: 100 M $

Potential: X11.3


ICONOMI (ICN)


$12,349,128

OBJECTIVE: 75 M $

POTENTIAL: X6.1



SIACOIN (SIA)

$7,151,526

OBJECTIVE: 100 M $

POTENTIAL: X14


BITBAY (BAY)

$858,824

OBJECTIVE: 5 M $

POTENTIAL: X5.8


MAIDSAFECOIN (MAID)

$32,762,577

OBJECTIVE: 150 M $

POTENTIAL: X4.55


NEXIUM (NXC)

$1 M -1.5 M (0.027 $ per NXC)

OBJECTIVE: 7.5 M $

POTENTIAL: X6

Some of these coins are borderline dead (with practically zero liquidity) and they have no potential and what you're expecting are basically only dead cat bounces or some weird pumps.

Any of these coins is dead or close to death. Believe me, it's much more risky to invest in ETH, MAID, XMR, ETC.... than to invest in this ones. The question is how many of crypto trades are mentally ready to baghold a coin for more than a month.. ;)

well i can agree some of your alt coin list has a great potential, but some of the coins are near to dead, I think Ripple and lisk can make quite a profit as i can see two of this coins show a good development, but for lite coin and doge i dont think there will be a huge increasing for the next year, i have been struggling with this 2 coins, and i can see the potential for this coin is not really good for next year

It is very hard to predict altcoin prices. As you can see with Monero - price some days ago was around 2 USD, currently the price is around 4 USD. Market for some coins are small and price prediction is very, very hard, almost impossible. Therefore may be is possible to predict prices for TOP 5 coins only - let say - ETH Classic, Doge, Litecoin, Dash, Monero for next some months ahead.  ;)

I was recently looking at UNO, if it gets a little push it can do well with a small supply and mining at less than 0.1 coins per day, out of your list this is my pick.

Thanks for sharing. I'll follow some of these...

Monero is still undervalued.

More dark markets will start to use it, especially after the first week of September. Then more of the general public will become aware of its superiority for private and untraceable transactions. Any and all of this will create more demand, which almost always creates a rise in price.

Hey bro been predicting succesfully for the last 4 years. Of course I can be wrong in one pick or two, but the other ones be sure that will create you a huge benefits. Everyone called me crazy when december of last year I said 50 M to XMR in a year. Have in mind that I'm pretty conservative and I only pick things that I Know I will profit YES or YES.

Trade carefuly. ;)

Stratis.

@VultureFund. Where did you get those numbers from? Please explain how the "potential" is calculated unless you made up those numbers according to your gut feelings. It would be nice of you to teach us your methods of computing the real value of the different coins.

Yo, these numbers are just an objective that I feel it's very likely to happen. In fact, I expect some of these coins to grow more than my objective, but I'm never too ambitious. The key message here is that if you invest in any of these coins at current prices and ready to hold a year if it's necessary, you will have a nice profit. So easy as that, and so difficult to do.

Every coin has it's own reasons to be one of the list, the thing they have in common is the accumulation chart profile and the very likely news to come in the next year that will serve as an excuse to pump the coin. And don't forget about china guys, looks that they are dead, but be sure that they will comeback and the next chinese bubble it's very likely to happen in the coming year. That's the main reason to choice a dead shit like MEC. It's an historical 95% chinese coin, very likely to pump hard in the next china bubble.

And don't forget about BTS and BLK... I feel they will surprise a lot of people in the coming times ;D ;D

exactly stratis is one of the best coins i seem to believe in as per the plans and has a well laid out plan . seems he missed it out and time will prove it i guess

Lisk would have been a better coin but then there are some clones which seem can compete to it and might even be better than it in the end.
Tokens that I strongly believe to have good value later is WAVES and XAURUM, you might also invest to these coins and expect to profit exponentially in one year.

xaurum is a long term investment coin as it is backed by gold. it's a sure bet but just has to hold on for a considerable long time which not everyone prefers .

1) How come you did not list Monero? It's also an altcoin with potential.

2) I think you are a bit too optimistic about the market value of the altcoins you listed.

xaurum must be in the list if it is about potential coin.. gold will never be dump so hard and xaur is back up by gold bars so basically
xaur have the potential to price inflation as Gold itself is basically a good precious metal.



monero too is a potential coin even it is just listed in polo, the ratio of volume to price of XMR is proportional and the devs are always alert to counter
the dump of the coin price. So that means XMR too is a potential coin to be consider.


BTW the list of OP is full of nearly dead shit coin. hahahah ,, you better check it all again mate. goodluck :)

sadly, we don't know when its get pump on higher rate. we only can make predicts by watching on the market. but i really thank you with this clue so i can make a prepare with that coin list  ;D

for doge, i think doge will come back and wake up again so the doge can reach in 100 satoshi like before.

I don't think there's any point trying to tie fundamentals to any of them. we're in pointless pump country now. as long as your coin is above ground and listed in the right places it's gonna be pumped if you sit there long enough.

1) I just closed a X6.5 XMR big position from last year. Now it's at 60 M market cap. This is so simple, do you see XMR at 150-200 M in a year? If you see it, get your XMR, but I don't see those numbers. I don't like to buy pumped coins. XMR will surely pump more previous to ZCASH launch, but after that forget about Monero for a long time.

2. Believe me, those numbers are super conservative. ;)

Yeah, if the coming year comes fresh money to crypto everything will pump. But what if this doesn't happen? Only those attractive coins will grow. And that's why it's super important the fundamental of any coin. (Hey, fundamentals of shitcoins don't have anything to be with fundamentals of bonds, shares, metals...). For example, that guy buying Xaurum will most likely get burnt, even if billions come to crypto. ;D ;D

Every shitcoin that has the possibility to make illusions to traders, investors or people in general, it's not a shit anymore. ;)

There are some good alts. Not sure about some of these though, such as Qora and Megacoin.

on poloniex it's obvious the same people are going from coin to coin so I don't think it needs much fresh money. just enough greedy people who are already on the sidelines. they managed an epic one with fibercoin and that got delisted a few weeks later.

i'm not talking the total shitcoins, just stuff that's somewhere right now but maybe a little quiet. and I don't think any of them have fundamentals apart from monero now.

Seeing the future really is a skill. for instance Monero. one should actually be seeing monero as one of the future coin as people online prefers to hide themselves. one coin that allows you to do this is monero. if someone see this long before it pumped he must have invested to this coin and profited by now.

LISK is better coin stable price never below ICO price, LTC just a little quite this year, BLK is one of good coin but no inovation from the dev so look like BLK near to death, and some coin in your list is has good potential, time will proof what the best altcoin ever  :)

Nice topic thank you for sharing the info.

the majority of those coin are dead lol, op you need tor e-do your list, LBRY is the shit now, if you think that is dead because oft he recent pump, you need to look at how the reward work, it will pumped again to the moon

No love for IOTA and Augur?

Of course, invested a lot in IOTA ICO man, what a play!! If it works, IOTA is going to the 50M minimum, we'll see. ;) ;)

I did a list with only coinmarketcap, ZCASH, IOTA, hehe, look too good. ;D ;D

DOGE is an excellent transfer coin that I'm still using for that - quick and cheap transfers, but I doubt that it'll have a big rise in price in spite of its popularity among exchanges since that'd break its current method of use: you want to transfer money -> you buy alot of DOGE -> send DOGE to your partner -> your partner exchanges it to the currency he wants

So, I think most of these coins aren't near dead, but if I experienced a bigger rise in their prices, I'd imagine a pump.

Fundamentals are important too, but what suggests that more people will invest based on fundamentals than who are investing now?

There is nothing special about Doge. Any coins today even those without value can transfer value. There is a chance that doge will someday die if theres nothing done to it. It has already catch the attention of people so a little push can help it grow.

AEON OBJECTIVE 1.5 M REACHED

MINIMUM PROFIT OBTAINED: 4.4

https://i.imgur.com/fSxpIZN.png


hAVE A NICE DAY. ;) ;)

Add SDC Shadowcash to that list. This coin has a great future.

 OP what do you think about Factom (FCT) and Synereo AMP (AMP). I think both coins have huge potential to double in asking price before this time next year.

Yeah good projects but too risky for me at these levels.

If I don't have it clear, I don't like to enter. ;)

 XMR has really proved its values for the past couple of days after being silent all these time . it really has some potential but as you said only time will prove it.

You can add Nxt, Sia

Nxt has been around for years yet the value still doesn't seem to be worth keeping.

XMR will be great to keep. People who value privacy and untraceable coin are important for darkweb users.

The same. Good projects, but too high and too risky to buy now. I only have "secure" coins in my list that I know at 95% that will pump in the coming months.

Out of your list, Primecoin, Counterparty, Lisk and Ripple are probably the only ones where I agree with your prediction/value analysis. The others all seem a little dicey with an alt shakeout around the corner

I am looking for the next 1000 bagger like XEM and NXT. Do you have any recommendation for any coins with good potential. I see that many coins are overpriced right now and it may be time to wait for bitcoin to pump before buying depressed alts.

From current levels, and thinking of a 1year investment, my biggest bets are: XRP, BTS, LSK, BTCD & BLK .

All of them have a huge potential upside, but you have to have patience... ;)


XRP: Very probably big money injection from financial sector in the coming year.

BTS: Chinese pumpers coin, consolidated, low price, nice working features, to be pumped for sure.

LSK: ETH pumpers coin, will surely follow almost the same pattern as ETH.

BTCD: Iguana to come in a few months. Disruptive technology, much better than anything that already exist (check what's about), BTCD is the fuel of Iguana.

BLK: Chinese pumpers coin, consolidated, hidden technology already existent, huge acummulation, big pump after some marketing.

If you had to choose one coin to put all of your investment into, which would you choose? In other words, which coin are you most sure of will be pumped within a year?

i agree, stratis is awesome

What do you think of Factom? It has made partnerships with with a Chinese firm called DataYes. There is also news that their new clients will be the Department of Homeland Security and a Wall Street firm.

There is a forecast made by MalReynolds here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850070.msg16092497#msg16092497

What do you think of it? Is that possible?

I have plenty confidence in all them five, but BTS, BTCD & BLK will pump 99.9% for sure. ;)

Don't like to put all in one basket, but if you are ambitious do that:

1. ALL IN BTCD

2. X3-4 PROFIT

3. Chose the one of BTS, BLK that hasn't pumped at that time, ALL IN

4. X3-4 PROFIT

5. If the third one of the list hasn't pumped yet, ALL IN

6. X3-4 PROFIT



If you have some luck to catch the timing, you could have an "easy" 1000-2000% profit in a year with a very low risk.

I always do and reccomend diversification, you never know what's gonna happen in this craze world. ;D

Sorry if this sounds harsh, but:
All speculators I've read of post about the "rise" of some coins when they want to dump them.
What would make you different?


I am concerned because two of your coins are on my "should rise" list too.....

Yo man don't be so suspicious. I share that cause I feel better with myself.:D :D

If I wanted to do that I would tell you to buy what is popular these days, you know what I mean... ::) (XMR, ETH, FCT, ETC,...).

All coins in my list are very very silent, almost nobody talks about them, only for that you should trust me.

If still don't trust me, take a look at my message history and see that I always warn BEFORE the pump. ;) ;)

OK... I will follow this thread. Maybe I learn something of it.
If you're indeed honest, then big thanks for sharing your list.

What about WBB and WAVES ?  Any thoughts ?:D

In 1 year, DGB is going to see +400 sat. 1000 sat if we're lucky.

55 sat now

Why exactly?

Iguana is much better than I thought. I think I will have to push even more the objective price in the future. I smell a XEM here. ;)

why do you say Digibyte? what is special about that coin?

very interesting thanks, So many coins out there. I stumbled on BURST. that looks great too, very long term

WBB: too manipulated even for me, it doesn't generate me confidence.


WAVES: In theory, WAVES should pump like almost all other big ICOs did with some news, but one of my rules of investment is: NEVER INVEST IN RUSSIAN PROJECTS.

It looks so racist, but I've lost lots of $$$ in russian investments in the past, all of them for incompetence of leaders, and I'm not gonna risk a single $ in Russia based projects, I don't care if WAVES pumps hard or not.

shadowcash is doing good!

I'll be keeping an eye on these coins you listed to evaluate how the play out in the next months :) thanks for the info, will do also more research about some that have been mentioned lately more frequently like SDC. Any thoughts on NXT?

BLK is not a Chinese pumpers coin, it is almost dead, bts is Chinese pumpers coin. And eth, ltc are all Chinese pumpers coin

SDC is hidden gem, monero pumpers find the sdc may be next big anon coin, so they pump sdc. Very green today   :D

Whatever you say man... ::) ::) ::)

https://i.imgur.com/qTL9YJm.gif

You mean big green dildo? LOL, I see sdc has a big green candle= big green dildo.

And?

Shadowtrash will always be shadowtrash.

BUY BUY SDC I'm sure it's the new XMR...

https://i.imgur.com/qTL9YJm.gif

Hei Vulturis , blackcoin will rise for sure imo too .

UPLOAD


BTCD OUT OF MY LIST


Yesterday was one of the days which I feel very fucked. With Komodo announcement (it will be a success for sure), the rise of BTCD has been matemathically impossible, so I'm super sad, but I have to kick off my little babe BTCD of my list.



STRATIS IN MY LIST

$2,213,215

OBJECTIVE: 10 M $

POTENTIAL: X4.5

10 M is just Poloniex volume potential.. has a 20 M potential once framework nodes released in 1-2 months. 200 M potential with full roadmap development then 2 Billion potential with clients. This baby for sure won't be cheap real soon.

 :o :o  Maybe stratis can help corporation doing business, fly to the moon if the raodmap is done.

We'll see, maybe I have to push up the objective price with news. Certainly it looks good. ;)

Should also add Factom. 10x potential.

No thanks, don't like to buy coins that already pumped. Factom did a X30, what a craze to buy now! ;D ;D

We will see :) remember this

If it pumped good to you, but the risk/reward it's horrible for me.

Stratis will hit your objective this week. Dorier just tweeted and said in the slack he begins framework dev today. Be prepared.

Are you adding all the anon coins to your list? Everyone of them will experience a pump as XMR seems to have emerged as the leader of Anon coins.
These effect will spread to all the other small anon coins.

Darknet (DNET) you should check it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1262920.0

- POS/MASTERNODE
- great team and community
- fair distribution with quark during 8 months, no ninja, insta, hidden what ever
- hard to buy

anon coins are pumping hard nowadays, they are back, there were full of anon coins in 2014, 2015, now they are revival, lol.

My anon picks since 25/08 are AEON to 1.5 M (already sold), BBR to 2 M, and VCASH to 5 M.

Really impressed that even a big shit like shadowtrash it's doing that huge pump.

If the next days keep like that, I will have to push up VCASH objective price, technologically it's the BEST one of all them, only beaten by ZCASH, and the pump looks super close. ;)

https://s12.postimg.io/oacwqlj3x/cbbfd1b59a8340789f4502f0fec598cf.png


It took only 9 days to prowe you wrong.

I'm glad XMR did that pump, but kid, watch what I said:

JUST CLOSED X6.5

I'm never too ambitious you know, my objective is to WIN and WIN and keep WINING year to year more than a 1.000%, and XMR 6,5 helped a lot to fulfill the objective. ;) ;)

How many of FOMO short term traders can have this ratio of profits man?

I never said I know everything, I just know how to make money consistently and want to share it, that's all.

UPLOAD


VCASH NEW OBJECTIVE: 7.5 M $



We'll see if I have to push up even more in the coming days, this shit looks ready to explode.

Hey folks, the sleeping giant BLK is waking up. Remember that this is a 20 M coin... ;) ;)

not "this is", should be "this was", and 20 M kept only a few hours, and then huge dumped. It was too overpriced and manipulated heavily by whales. 

bfff, I say this "is" because it's true value IS that and WILL be that in the coming year, it's just that the market right now is supressed folk. ;)

Hi.. that's good if you would like to share the info

What his views regarding Game Credits , Decred and Rise ? Grateful.

in your write potential doge coin 4.16
this mean your prediction every one dogecoin 4.16 dollar, i think is very imposible
is dogecoin up until reach 4.16 dollar every one dogecoin

GMC: Well, It's a highly centralized coin with a few big holders that are working hard on the coin. I wouldn't be surprised to see +50 M in GMC in the future, but how I said, I don't like to buy coins that already pumped hard (GMC it's up more than 1000% this year). My plan with GMC is wait at least some more months and see how it evolves.

DCR: Not a lot of surprise here, Decred will be pumped at some time for sure. Lots of developments coming, Polo, stable price... Sure pick. Right now there's a big mining rewards and it won't pump inmediatly. Coin for the long term.

RISE: Didn't like it since the start, I don't have trust in the team, so I'm not gonna buy it anytime soon.

Potential is the result of OBJECTIVE CAP / CURRENT CAP . It's like saying 4.16 $ for every $ bet.

What is GMC? Can't find at coinmarcket cap
Why have you removed BTCD from your list? What is the reason? You just wrote at 31 of august buy it and then on september the second removed it from your list. I'm a bit wondered)

GMC is now GAME, sorry I put the old ticket.

Yeah, I was also fucked by BTCD. I tell you:

BTCD was be the fuel of iguana, Iguana will be totally finished in a few months, and will surely be a game changer. For that reason, BTCD destiny was to be a super-traded coin with a big market cap, BUT:

At 1 September, Jl777 announced that to finish iguana properly, they needed some funds, and will do an ICO with Komodo (the BTCD 2.0)(Zero cash features, etc). The thing is that every BTCD will be swapped to Komodo at the rate of 0.0045-0.0055, what leaves BTCD without a possibility to grow a lot.

That's why I quit BTCD of my list, I'm sorry for that advice, if I knew that the huge news of 1st September were that kind of news, I wouldn't had said so.

Thanks a lot. I was reading and analyzing everything you've posted here. Fully agree about LSK and Vertcoin.

CLAM's is the biggest shit ever, even bigger than Shadowtrash. I don't care if it pumps X10 or X100, I'm not gonna give a $ to these pieces of shits. ;D ;D

I am looking for cheap alts but most of them have risen many times from its low.
Is there any coin that is cheap at the moment? I am trying to find the next 100 or 1000 bagger but it is difficult to find in this overpriced altcoin market.

Yo, you only have to look at the list. There are still plenty of alts with good potential, but don't expect them to pump inmediately. Thinking in 2-3 months perspective, I suggest you VTC, BLK & POT. Dont expect things to pump inmediately!!!! ;D ;D

Interesting, almost all of the coin quoted here goes with my technical analysis conclusion, so many coin ready to be pumped  ::)

Of course man, I'm also a technical analyst, but without fundamentals, I don't spend any second analyzing the chart. :D

Well, Stratis (STRAT) increased their market cap by 50%+ in the last 2days. Don't know if OP's $10m market cap is feasible but they're definitely on the way:)

Coin without fundamentals can pump to, but it's usually more risky and short lived  ;D

Yeah I don't think it's feasible in the coming days (I would like it  ;D), but thinking in terms of a year I see 10 M $ very easy. ;)

Lol. You will see a 10 million market cap by next week. Expect a Poloniex add to take this to 20-30 for a small period as well.

Believe me, I would love to be wrong this time. ;D ;D

Other than STRATIS , WBB will jump up soon ,all can refer to ann.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=952619.0

Hmm, scratch that. Market cap is 100% up now.

i think potential good altcoin and growth price
because big community and much people use and trade

1 LITECOIN (LTC)
2 RIPPLE (XRP)
3 LISK (LSK)
4 DOGECOIN (DOGE)

Lisk going to sky, once its possible
to build first sidechain app.

That will happen in Q1 next year. ;)

OP

Here is some inside info for you. Some of which you already know.

GAME will be a $50 million market cap within a year. I can't tell you how I know, but I know.

BBR might be a $50 million market cap within a year. This you already know.

Hey folks, finally BBR will have a dev team and they just released de whitepaper.

I ususally don't use that to promotion, but as no one knows about BBR, just take a look: ;)

https://twitter.com/1blockologist/status/775130312611278848

Hey, 50 M $ for BBR looks impossible mission to me, but 4-5 million in a year seems feasible if things are done properly. ;D

And about GAME... I still remember when it started trading at Polo at 200-300 sats and thought: "Mmm, don't know what's that shit, but it was listed in Polo so it must be something serious, maybe I should buy some". And then thought: "fuck it, there are better options, too risky". Then, when it pumped to 2K-3K sats I thought: "meh, just a quick pump, not buying that pumped shit"... And then pumped again to 20K-30K, and now I'm thinking: "Meh, I don't know what to think about that, too risky for me". Let's see if I'm wrong again haha ;D ;D

This make time more time though, been an investor as well.

Once a bagholder decides to invest to create that sidechain app, he'll benifit to it but that would take a lot of money to spend still.

VultureFund what do you think of Stealthcoin? http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/stealthcoin/
I sold my xst holdings. Is it worth to enter that market?

Hi Guys... any opinion on MAGI XMG ?

Super highly manipulated coin. It sholud pump at some time, but I don't like to invest in shitcoins without any fundamental, better look for real coins.

I keep my original objective of 500K $, maybe I will have to push up. ;)

Are you sure start, rdd, blk, etc are real coins?  ;D  They are all shitcoins. There is only 1 real coin and it is called btc.

So you ask something, he doesn't answer as you would as liked, and now you get mad?

Navcoin seems to have an interesting technology and a strong development team. What is your opinion ? Grateful

It's the eternal confusion of crypto. All coins, except BTC, are shitcoins, mostly because their lack of volume and HUUUGE volatility. They should have another name cause they are not "coins".

But man, I don't know why are you here, but I'm here to win money. And every "shitcoin" that is capable to generate me money, it's not a shitcoin anymore.

If I pick a coin is because I know that there is at least 1 big reason to buy it, AND it gives me good vibes (this is very important too). And despite I know XST has a whale behind that will pump hard soon or later, it doesn't give me any good vibe, so I'm not gonna buy a single stealthcoin ;) ;)

Call me idiot or stupid for that, but that's how I work. Sometimes reasonable arguments are not everything. ;D ;D

You know my opinion about recent pumped coins, it's always the same...

NAV is a good and fair project that pumped more than X10 this year. The question is, there is more room to grow? Probably, but I prefer much better risk/reward ratios.

Yeah I get it. But what I'm saying is that I work on the internal team of GAME. It is currently in an accumulation phase despite its 1000% growth this year. You notice that GAME has almost no community outreach. It isn't because the team is stupid. Let's put it that way. You notice that almost every dip is bought up? People always ask me who is buying because the thread has hardly any discussion. The people buying aren't crypto traders. It's real gaming businesses many of which have never even bought Bitcoin before. We are literally struggling to get pockets filled in time without moving market up 3-4x. Ok I've said too much.

 You don't want to be wrong 3 times in a row. :) you share great info in this thread, so I wanted to give you some.

When CZ was coding BBR was 1/5-1/10th XMR market cap. Right now that would put BBR at 13-26 million market cap. BBR is going higher than 4-5 million in 12 months. Assuming XMR stays healthy.

Asshole my question addressed to VultureFund not to you. You wanted to earn pennies with your signature?

Your point of view is much appreciated :)

I wanted to know how you differentiate coins between "real ones" and "shit ones". You got the question perfectly. Now I see your stance at altcoins ;)

We'll see, meanwhile feeling confortable with 600K $ objective  ;D

so far only dgb and lisk im confident to hold for long term period, have sold xmr and havent decided to rebuying again

There's lot of gold unseen there man...

I won't be tired of saying, I have the feeling that BTS & BLK will surprise lot of people next year... ;D ;D

Lots of new money can have a big uptrend.

You can add Floding coin

Maybe Curecoin too...

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VOXELS (VOX) IN MY LIST

$1,363,238

OBJECTIVE: 5 M $

POTENTIAL: X3.65

LOL, voxel is a big scam, ico price is 0.001-0.0015, so now is 0.00007, you can see the ico investors are all bagholders, can't be pumped hard, they wait for stop-loss exit point if the price is pumped.

The question is, why it dropped so hard since the ICO? There's any good reason to drop a 95%? I only see a thing here, price supression. At some time it will have to pump and actual prices are OK to get a good risk/reward ratio. ;)

Bought some Peercoin today. Hopefully there will be a new pump soon :)

Looks like I missed out on the Ripple pump today.  :-\

http://www.coindesk.com/ripple-blockchain-55-million-series-b/

The pump is over, people will dump it to 1000 sat again, you know why? The market cap is so big, ripple is always top 3 coin in recent 2 years.

That the worst reason I've ever heard ::)

Hehe but is also one of the funnier reasons  ;D

Shut up man, your reasons are worse than media justifications for ups or downs of stock market: "Today stock markets fall -1.2% because of ISIS, or because of Trump, or Oil, or ......" Muahaha, who the fuck knows why it fall? In any case, it's necesarily to have a justification? Markets in the short term are irrational, trying to analyse them rationally it's a total waste of time.

XRP will be big yes or yes, just buy and hold ;)

Ethereum's transition to PoS will be the tipping point
for virtually every other PoS coin out there.

If it goes smoothly,every POS coin might skyrocket
alongside ETH.

Interesting, didn't think about that. Maybe BLK pumps earlier than I predict, it's the most advanced POS coin.

potential altcoin is growth
1 ethereum classic
2 nxt
3 xrp
4 xcp
5 monero
6 ethereum

to new coin
1 iconomi coin
2 antshare coin

If a coin has generated profit for you does not mean it`s a "real coin". Many coins on your list have no tech behind them.

I call "real coins" those ones that have great tech behind.

I advised you to add sdc to your list and in 2 days it boomed:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1596714.msg16078760#msg16078760

Now I advice you to add xst to your list. They will soon release a great anon tech. Grab as many xst as you can before it`s too late. Mark my words ;)

Voxel is a premine coin, devs keep dumping the premine coin, you don't know? You should research more before investing. 

OP why no basis behind your estimates / guesses? Might have a little bit more input in your thread or a nice debate if you included this sort of thing rather than just having people telling you to stop promoting pre-mined scam coins.

VIRTACOIN VTA - looking good

Yes a few information why you recommend some coins would be nice

1. Most of coins of my list, except the small chips, have unique tech behind, I don't know why you say that.

2. You advised me to buy that broken shit SDC and it boomed. Ok, good for you, even a monkey can choose the right option once, it's just statistics. SDC was, is, and will be the biggest anon shit in coinmarketcap, it's so shitty than I don't even look at the chart.

3. I also know that most probably XST will be pumped, I said it a couple weeks ago. There's a whale, but it doesn't give me any good vibes, so I'm not gonna buy nor recommend to buy.

C'mon man, take a look at the list on the front page that I published less than a month ago, and compare it with the actual market caps. Do you really think I'm new on this man? ;D

When I said VOX, did you read the reasons?

1. Devs are not dumping the premined shit, it's easy to check that. YOU should do more research and think by yourself idiot. Some idiots say at the bitcointalk VOX topic that team is dumping coins and you believe that, what a strong personality you have man... ;D ;D ;D

2. Someone is supressing the price, NOT DEVS selling premined coins, we are at -95% from the ICO prices. VOX is in Polo and Bittrex, and the chart clearly shows the manipulation. Market cap is 1.3 M $, it's OK.


I'm not saying that VOX is not a scam, I'm just saying that at these prices the ratio risk/profit looks very good, so I'm gonna put money in, it's very simple.

After all, what is not a scam here? It's not a scam that Monero, a coin that is not used by anyone (yes, look at dark market XMR transactions statistics, ridiculous), pumps to 200M $ ? ;D

Good info my friend

 Hi vulturefund,

Any idea on NAV

Already answer that:

Quote from: felipepoide on September 12, 2016, 02:56:17 PM
Navcoin seems to have an interesting technology and a strong development team. What is your opinion ? Grateful


You know my opinion about recent pumped coins, it's always the same...

NAV is a good and fair project that pumped more than X10 this year. The question is, there is more room to grow? Probably, but I prefer much better risk/reward ratios.

I'm all in with BLK like you told days ago. Today it was traded with high volumn than usual. Do you think it is a good sign?

Never go all in man. BLK is a hidden gem that will boom hard in the coming year, but still can take some time. ;)

Tq Bro.looks on your opinion, currently what is the best coin for day trader

BLK has been inactive for a long time. It can't even go above 10k satoshi.
Other anon coins like DASH and XMR have overtaken this coin. Why do you believe so much in BLK?

Hey man, I was buying Sia at 5-10 sats levels, and people asked the same then: Why the fuck do yo buy Sia with Storj so established? The answer is:

1. Good tech, being developed by truly smart people.

2. 0 marketing.

3. Price supression.

That's the perfect combination for an investor man, the marketing and hype it's the easiest thing to do, it will eventualy come, but the point number 1 it's the hard one to have in a coin.

BLK has the 3 conditions, plus number 4: Chinese love BLK.

It's a perfect cocktail to boom, and will surprise a lot of people, who then will be buying BLK +50K sats and saying how wonderful and innovative BLK it is. ;) ;)

For those of you invested in LSK -- and I count myself among you now -- here are a few relevant notes from the Lisk Community Meeting on Sept. 23. Max is Lisk CEO Max Kordek.

Source: http://coinour.com/index.php/lisk-community-meeting-summary-september-23th/

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cc001:
what’s the general mood about Lisk?

Max:
The general mood is very positive. Not many people know about Lisk here, so it’s quite nice to educate people about it. They generally really like it and understand that it has its place. Especially because you can’t have your own blockchain on Ethereum.I met a few people who want to do an ICO and accept LSK, because they really believe into the ecosystem and want to build blockchain agnostic apps. That means they later would also port over their apps to Lisk.

CryptoAdvisor-cad789:
but how is the mood of Lisk stake holders?

Max:
To be honest, the mood on the conferences is totally different than in the forums. On the conferences EVERYONE is extremely positive, happy, and interested about the progress. Every person I met was genuinely interested in Lisk.

CryptoAdvisor-cad789:
Here are investors, technical persons, and normal dudes. I pitch Lisk different to anyone and the technical persons mostly want to know how it is working with the LSK tokens within the sidechains.

Someonsomeone:
So realistically when do you expect sidechains to start working?

Max:
I expect that on Q1 2017 is the time when serious ICOs for apps on Lisk are starting to pop up.

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Looks like holding until Q1 2017 is the move right now.

Totally agree with you about BLK, but I think we will see massive uprise before end of the year ;)

Pesobit PSB , very good coin and roadmap, price already 10x ICO

Gulden 3,5m market cap

https://s12.postimg.org/kpd4msc1n/image.png

It's annoying that people use this thread for there own little personal advertisement.

I do not think the op uses this thread for his personal goals. He simply shared his predictions with us. He was right with aeon and gulden. Potcoin is also nearing the target he predicted.

Yes I agree. I am talking about everyone else who makes an advertisement for their coin. Like the person above advertising Gulden.

How do you feel about Augur?

I'm don't really trust a cryptocoin if is not mineable...

I trust the coin but I dont trust this price  :)

Agree Augur is a good project, but the price seems high at the moment, I will wait for the price to stabilize before buying the token

Your thoughts about Dash in 2017 january..?? 0.025-0.03 ?

As of today, PotCoin's market cap crossed $8.7 million. Damn.

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/potcoin/

Thats crazy :o. Does Potcoin has anything special?

if its total supply is lesser like 21million, this coins would have been better, not sure why these guys created coins with such a huge supply when they will all circulate and coins have 8 decimals. the lesser the max supply the better its value.

If the netherlands see the new Gulden it will explode, first wait for the new wallet

Why would a new wallet have impact on the price of a token? this is not the first time I will be hearing something like this, to me it is not a strong fundamental to impact the price of a token, I saw it with Navcoin too

Not that I can tell. It bills itself as a currency for the legal marijuana industry in the U.S., but it doesn't look fundamentally different than any other Bitcoin clone -- unless I'm missing something.

It also appears this was a one-day pump-and-dump. It's back down to $3M in market cap, though that's still twice what VultureFund predicted.

if there are more coins, then you can own more for the same amount of outlay. that's a free tip just for you. no one cares about the quantities of a coin, only how many bitcoins they can get for their random number.

Fuck you VultureFund !  You were also right about Horizon coin!  Your are a magician !!!   8)

Patiently waiting for BLK  :o 8)

3 btc in at ~2500 sat :D

The limitation imo is that it's not listed on poloniex and with most of the market being bittrex it might not hit the 4m since there are only 1200 btc on bittrex which isn't going to bring the coin to 4 million cap unless people will migrate their btc to bittrex for that sole purpose of startcoin

Yeah, I'm taking a small punt now on BLK, too. I need to get to about $0.14 to make up for what I lost on that NXT-Ardor fiasco, but if VultureFund is as right about BLK as he was about Gulden, Potcoin, and Aeon, I'll be okay with that.

I should probably mention that I jumped out of Lisk when I saw the short-term direction it was heading. There's not a lot of confidence in the Lisk team right now to get things done quickly. I'm waiting until December to see where it stands, but I suspect it will drop to $0.10 before it climbs past $1 post-launch.

Hi Vulture fund.

Can you add NAV Coin to your potential list?

on the 20th they will re launch double encrypted anon.

For this they set up a Thunderclap campaign here: https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/47929-navcoin-powered-by-the-people

And will give away 20k NAVs for a lucky supporter

Follow the thread!

Kind regards.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=679791.20220

Wow!! We got a spammer looking desperately for hype to his shitcoin... hahaha

Whats'up folks, been very busy lately. I think it's time to upload the list right?  ;D ;D



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VOX OUT OF MY LIST

I'm really sorry if someone got in, I was expecting good news from the team but finally seems that they are pure scammers...


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VCASH NEW OBJECTIVE: 15 M $


Pro tip: In the short term (1month-2 months), take a look at VCASH, START, DGB and maybe XRP, don't have to say thanks. ;)

And for those who are curious, here is where I'm uploading my current positions and movements of my funds if you wanna take a look:

https://forobits.com/t/el-fondo-del-tete-hilo-serio/2580




I almost forget:


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NEW VIACOIN OBJECTIVE: 2 M $

START is launching this month. I am expecting a decent pump.

Could you explain why you believe VCash is primed for such a big pump? There's plenty of competition out there for anonymous coins.

VCASH is much more than an anonymous coin. One of the best tech outthere and improving at lightspeed with a super-talented dev. Once it gets some marketing and one big investor (I think it's already in), it has to be minimum 25% of DASH, as it's a MUCH better and fair coin.  ;)

I think you are mistaken with zcash, vcash is not anonymous (as much as is bitcoin).

C'mon man, do I look like a noob?? ;D ;D ;D

ZCASH is gonna be +200 M $ at the launch, I'm talking about VCASH, John Connors coin... ;)

That's a pretty bold statement to me, given the amount of confidence I have in the DASH team and the direction in which they're going. (I have some DASH masternode shares, which I see more as a long-term, steady growth vehicle than a pumper's coin.)

You've made some impressive calls so far, though, so I'll take a punt on VCASH. I'm taking a punt on BLK, too. Very curious to see if you're right about those two.

I'll mention that neither of these punts are as big as my bet on Stratis. I read the white paper after seeing it mentioned here, and I really like what that team is doing. I jumped in early, and so far it's covered my losses from the NXT-Ardor fiasco and then some. If they meet their timeline goals, it could pop before the end of the year.

Definetly stratis is the next 100 million coin. Estimate time - not later than april 17' if the team delivers. I guess the first pump will be at the middle-end of november (due to expectations about first milestone of roadmap completion).

Ok. Last time I'm posting about it. Except I might quote myself with playful jabs over the next 3-12 months. GAME will go 10-50x current price from fundamental demand pressure.  Yes you are reading that correctly. Fundamental pressure. And yes that is a top end projection of over $8.

You might ask yourself how I know that.

I just answered in last post. $1.5 - $8+

Announcements at CoinAgenda won't consciously be made widely public until first week of November.  Even then the hype train will be very factual and straight forward. Smart people will start to figure it out for themselves.

PACCOIN ... at the very bottom of CoinMarketCap, it can only go up!

or die  ;)

I agree with game and vcash.
Im looking at them for 2 weeks now the problem i have is that it seems the supply is controlled by only a few people. Hard to get your hands on cheap coins.

Btw. I believe BBR will surely have a move before the end of this year too.

Okay, Mr. GameCredits. I just picked up 250 GAME. How long will it be until I can cash that out and upgrade my smartphone?  8)

:) how much is the upgrade?

Buy Waves guys!

Will mooning soon!

Fair question. I usually get one generation behind the newest. If I stick with Android, a refurbished Nexus 6p is about $400-$450 from Amazon. If I switch to iOS, a refurb 6S+ is $558 from Gazelle. (Both 64GB models. I carry a lot of MP3s with me.)

So you need to sell at 2.20ish? I'd say by end of Feb. you'd be able to get your phone upgrade. But speculative hype is hard to predict. Therefore it could be sooner.  

Probably closer to 2.30ish, but that's the ballpark, and I can hold out on upgrading until then.

Let's set the target date at February 28, with one caveat -- if VCash hits $1.00 first, which would put it right at VultureFund's target valuation, I'll probably use those profits to upgrade my phone instead and hold the GAME for something else. Road trip with the wife, perhaps.

Good luck to all fellow GAME and XVC holders, then.  ;D

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Hi folks, not joking. Very thanks to windjc to open my eyes. We truly are in front of a new BIG PLAYER ;)


GAMECREDITS (GAME) IN MY LIST


$ 8,847,675

OBJECTIVE: 100 M $

Potential: X11.3

:o

I also did a bit of research on GameCredits yesterday. Moved out of VCash, upped my GAME from 250 to 1000, and left about $50 in BTC, which is over $54 now as the ZCash Apocalypse lays waste to the altcoin markets this weekend. (I actually watched as 1 ZEC = 1,200 BTC briefly on Poloniex. Madder than ten bastards on Father's Day, that was.)

If that projected valuation hits, I'm upgrading my phone, my iPad, my router, and my Roku.  ;D

Can someone explain to me what does all the predictions about altcoins value mean to anyone when raise of the btc value that we are having these days makes almost ALL altcoins to sink? And it seems to me that nobody here is worried about that. I mean, no matter which altcoin you bought from the list on the first page its price is probably now lower than when you bought it.

When the btc boom is over the rocket train will head into the direction of alts. 110%.

Most people who are switching to btc right now are usually trading actively in btc (starting long/short positions).

Worried for what? Because you're losing -30% in some of your positions? I don't care, I know that most of my coins are good and will pump sooner or later.

A rise of BTC is good at long term for ALTS. Look it from this perspective: If BTC is valued at 30 Billion $, why the fuck could not Ripple be valued at 2 Billion $ ?? ;D ;D

More money in BTC means more money and attention to the blockchain economy. In the short term alts suffer from BTC rises, in the long term alts make a party with all that money.  ;)

The real question is, do you have enough balls to keep a -40% position?? ;D That is the only thing that separates you from being a little fish or being a whale.  ;)

I am not worried so much because I invested only what I was ready to loose. It is just that I am new to all this and I am trying to figure out how it all works. A month ago I bought 1 btc for the first time. With it I bought some eth, sys, xrp, xvc and geo. I made some mistakes on the road, but nothing major. I havn't think about how will rise of btc affect price of alts until it happend.

Yes it`s a joke I think. Gamecredits is already overpumped. I would avoid it.

You are my hero!!  ;D

Great post.

Don't you think it's a bit over pumped?

If you believe this call is based on speculation, I could see your point. If this call was made with fundamental analysis, then absolutely not. Problem is 99.9% of the time speculation, not fundamentals drive altcoins prices.  So no one would blame you for questioning this call.

This is the thing I've struggled with the most -- not fiddling with my positions when the day-to-day price fluctuates. Sure, once in a while I'll get it right, like selling my Lisk at $0.22 and buying back in at $0.16 at the tail-end of this week's BTC rally, but more often than not, I get burnt on stuff like that.

I do feel like I now have a good mix of solid coins that will hit my targets in the next 3-6 months, but it will still be a challenge to get myself to stop checking the price every few hours and making unnecessary adjustments. I'm going to remember this post when that temptation hits.

Yeah I've decided to stop checking the exchanges so much and just hope for long term profits.
I've got too much work to do to worry about a few dollars gain or loss.
All the coins I bought are things I believe could have potential over the next few years- Augur, Factom, Lisk, etc
so the daily price doesn't really matter to me anyways.

Sorry man, but empirically, no altcoin has outperformed bitcoin on the long-term, not even close from that... You are bounded to lose following that strategy.

So much different operation areas...why should there be only one blockchain in the future?

yep. that's a godawful strategy. alts are for short term gains. there's always a new one around the corner that'll capture attention. none of these things are anywhere near getting properly established in their respective fields. they're all tiny and there'll be better ones along soon.

Total noob loser bullshit. I've been trading alts since early 2014. While BTC has gone from 800$ to 710$, I've made a compounded profits from alts superior to 450.000%, more than 1.000% per year and this year has been the total crazyness. If I reinvested absolutely everything I won, I would be a multi-millionaire right now.

Of course, ALT trading consist in buy good coins at low prices and SELL the PUMP, and of course, if you buy overvalued bullshit like POT at 7 M$ or Gulden at 20 M$ you're gonna lose a lot of money. This study was made from a total loser, who doesn't even know how this world works. ALTS are, and will be, BY FAR, more profitable to trade than BTC (but yes, you have to do it correctly). ;)  

it's totally obvious that alts have outperformed bitcoin, especially this year when it's put it to shame, but the guy was talking about a multi year time frame. I think you'd have to be nuts to think that way when it comes to alts.

Tell that to the cats who bought Ethereum at $1, Monero at $2, and Dash at $3. I'm pretty sure they aren't losing.

I am doing the same as you, and with lots of profit as well. Nonetheless, investing in years in alternative crypto have not work for a single altcoins outthere, bitcoin being bullish or bullish. We agree on everything you said, but read to what message I was answering. :)

that's what I am speaking about :

https://i.imgur.com/NFUhmM8.png

https://i.imgur.com/Ns1YMG6.jpg

That's what I am speaking about

TL:DR : Trade the alts, don't invest in them for multi-year timeframe, my answer to the first quote.

The list has been updated recently but I do not see iconomi there, I think that they have a good potential in the near future even though a short time has passed since it is listed in exchanges and many people are dumping the price.

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ICONOMI (ICN) IN MY LIST

$12,349,128

OBJECTIVE: 75 M $

POTENTIAL: X6.1



Patience with this one guys, it's a fundamental-based call, until they don't start releasing the fund-managing platform in Q2-Q3 2017 the price shouldn't do anything special.  ;)

Vulture what do you think of blocknet?

I love the concept of ICN. It has the potential to bring in non crypto audience into this world. However, with the ongoing circus with ETH, do you think ICN is going to get effected?

One of the best investment these days. one has to wait for its development though but pretty sure this will go high up the sky later.
once people see holders really got some dividends like what is being promised, the demand for this token will skyrocket. Give it some time as the team are currently making its way to developing the platform.

Is this starting point? I think so.  ;)

http://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/8-million-players-strong-online-game-fragoria-to-accept-cryptocurrency-deposits/ (http://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/8-million-players-strong-online-game-fragoria-to-accept-cryptocurrency-deposits/)

I have seen so many pros and cons supporting these picks, but to me what will drive the price to your projected valuation and what happen when the tokens crashed significantly below  present  marketcap

Startcoin began pumping. Fill your bags asap and enjoy the pump. The op was right.

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Folks, things are getting serious day by day at a super-velocity, blockchain industry it's not a wet useless dream anymore, so here we have another BIG PLAYER of the future. Give it 1-2 years and you'll have an stratospheric profit.  ;)

SIACOIN (SIA) IN MY LIST

$7,151,526

OBJECTIVE: 100 M $

POTENTIAL: X14


Important: This is another long-term fundamental pick, don't be in a hurry to make profits. If everything goes like planned, these 100 M $ objective will even be multiplied per X10 or X100 in a couple years, who knows. The potential is there, for sure, this is a complete disruptive technology that "kills" BY FAR any actual competence of the storage sector. Don't miss this train people.  ;)

I was about to ask you this question myself. Bought 2BTC worth at 67-68 sats after installing and trying their platform. There is nothing like it. They are able to handle files greater than 100 GB!!

Holding tight even though I am at a 25% down position  :)

Are you sure you didn't misspell STRAT there?  ;)

Congratulations for your post!!!

First for sharing with everyone for free!!!!
Looking on your list your results so far have been very good.

about nav,& cloakcoin & ioc ;D

Very informative thread. Big thanks to Vulture and the rest  :)

Bought some GAME today. Its very cheap right now.

I also hold AMP (Synereo). Sadly I bought them during the ICO for nearly the douple price :-\. Not a good timing but I think its has much potential to rise in 2017. What do you guys think about AMP?

Shitcoin.

Still holding Stratis here. Planning to sell sometime early next year, maybe around February or March. I'm currently up by 40 - 50%, but I'm expecting it to go higher as more project milestones are met and it gets listed for trading on Poloniex.

My next investment will be Incent Loyalty.

Komodo looks interesting, but the ICO looks bloated at the moment, with the massive Bitcoin Dark swap. Besides, the developer has a terrible track record of being a cash hungry, serial pumper dumper. As they say, fool me once (Super Net), shame on you. Fool me twice (Bitcoin Dark), shame on me. Fool me thrice (Komodo), then I'm beyond helpless. DISCLAIMER: I didn't actually invest in either project. It's just a figure of speech.

Golem has also shown some promise, but I see two huge problems with investing in this thing: a) it is built on top of Ethereum, and recent projects built on Ethereum (SingularDTV, First Blood) have performed miserably; and b) it said on reddit that they don't discount the possibility of a second fundraiser (ala Synereo.)

So, as it stands, I'll only be investing in Incent. Looking forward to watching an upcoming interview on Coin Interview with the folks at Chrono Bank. Depending on their performance, I might consider investing in that once the ICO starts.

Thank you but a little explanation would be nice   ;)

XEM is on the run now  :)

Usual shitcoin pattern for AMP, had a legit project, now want to do everything with their token, and this ico is a nice exit scam.

This is problem I have with some of these projects, initially they  seem to have a clear idea of what they want to do but later when there is another sweet/smart cliche, they all want to be that too. That is what killed Slockit DAO, Synereo team also seem confused presently and looking for their real identity before social platform and now smart contract platform

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Hi folks, next year I will be opening the first OPEN source Blockchain hedge fund. Open means that 90% of information will be transparently shared, meaning that you can actually profit without having to invest directly in the fund.

The project it's still a baby, but It's never too early to start a good community  ;)

If you're interested, join telegram group https://telegram.me/joinchat/EVc4eAqmQP5JPYAVxiLNVw



PD: Sorry for the spam. ;D

Good luck man!

I think it would be nice if you also open a thread on this forum about your hedge fund.

Stratis is completed. It broke 10 M today.

You should actually put another one up for 40 M.

Good thread, will be following closely!

I notice that Stratis have already hit your $10 million project, you need to change the colour to green.

Hold your ICN tokens, I think they can reward long term holders very well. They have invested into Golem and by this year end they will be investing into other projects too. By 2017 I am guessing that token holders can expect dividends. They are delivering what they had promised. Lock the ICN token in your cold wallet and forget about them for the next 10 years ;)

Good work mate! I am looking forward to see all the coins making good gains and wish you the best with your hedge fund. btw could you mention the reasons as to why you feel these coins will give the stated returns? I think that would make sense, especially coins such as Ripple, doge and Magi.

Yeah man, that's the next step: justification of trades. Will be opening a new topic with all those questions.

Opening a new topic to simply to justify your trades? well I think it's better to post it here, just saying. But you got me curious for including Ripple and doge. If you could state your reasons here, it would be cool!

Anyone look into HOdlcoin?  Thoughts?

Hey OP!

Any chance to read a webpage or forum thread with detailed information about your fund before it starts next year? Telegram and social media are a little out of reach for some people (okay, just for me).

Besides, a little page or two might be easy for anyone with curious questions.

Yeah will open a new threat regarding fund questions. That Telegram is just not serious lol  ;D

Nice to see someone else recognizes the upside potential with Sia!! :)

Ummmmm... Did John Connor just abandon VCash?

https://v.cash/forum/threads/the-state-of-vcash.687/

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/VCash

reading the chart upside down?

Well if GAME hits $100m in one year i certainly would be happy.  Think that is a little ambitious but who knows, hope you are right  :)

Maybe its just because I'm hungry and in a bad mood,
but I feel like every coin on the market besides maybe Ethereum, Factom, Monero and maybe one or two others,
are such piles of garbage.

Every amateur coder is just copy-pasting some shit off GitHub to 'create' another trash coin,
dump their premined coins or whatever onto one of the exchanges and make off with their profits.

This is something like I hear about onecoin (Actually-Is this onecoin real cryptocoin?)...You need to buy tokens and hold to 2018 year..and then get nothing...

If the roadmap stays on schedule, I think 100 million in 12 months is a shoe in.  GAME really is more valuable than Monero, Dash and Augur and its not really close. GAME is going mainstream. No other alt has ever done this.

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BITBAY (BAY) IN MY LIST


$858,824

OBJECTIVE: 5 M $

POTENTIAL: X5.8

Thanks for the update.
Do you stay at your vcash prediction after whatever it was happened?

We'll have to wait and see how the situation evolves. If JC (Vcash dev) keeps working through the plan, no problem at all, but the 15M $ objective will be lowered. The confidence after that massive dump will be hard to recover.

Very sad, XVC was evolving in a tremendous way, and JC fucked it all in one day. Let's hope he goes back to work and visits some mental doctor to cure him.  ;D ;D

I invested in Bitbay earlier in the year! So much going on for it and should be a top 15 coin with the development David Zimbeck is putting in. It's more developed than syscoin and their decentralised market yet only around 20% of there price!! It's 100% Gona double in price at least in the next 3 months

Bay indeed looks very interesting and unique. Good pick.

d.e.l.u.s.i.o.n.a.l.

ltc 1 year from now, its market cap will be $50 million (4 times lower than today, but price will be lower than 4 times lower because more ltc will be mined in the meantime)

LTC target 1 january 2017: $3.35

:)

Thank you very much for adding Bay.
 Good luck.

I hope it is not the list of Bitbay here that is causing the price to pump, I've been looking into the project for sometime but my concern for it is that, I don't think the team have enough capital to see the project through. What most people always for get is the role of funding for these project. To develop a soild platform you need funding

Hello vulturefund,

What do you think of "pesobit" and "reddcoin"?

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MAIDSAFECOIN (MAID) IN MY LIST

$32,762,577

OBJECTIVE: 150 M $

POTENTIAL: X4.55



Waiting for a big Maid growth for Q3-Q4 of 2017. Prices are starting to get attractive and don't seems it will go much lower than that.  ;)

I agree, Bitbay needs some funding to get big, but given the personal and professional quality of the main dev, he will be able to do a massive ICO when he wants to. Before doing that, he feels obligated to to reward his old Bitbay investors, so if ICO price two yeas ago was 300 sats you know what that means.  8)

Hey man, I don't know anything about Pesobit. About Reddcoin, it's the typical Polo pump coin, the main risk is Polo delisting it, but if RDD keeps trading there, nothing to worry about, eventual pumps will come.  ;)

Pesobit is for me a currency with a lot of potential! Professional, very fast development, partnership with banks ... in 1 year!

And I'm not talking about the Filipino community ... third community in international transfer behind india and china .. To be continued!

https://block-chain-invest.com/

so it looks like sia is the best investment

Depends on how long you want to hold. I think you will get your reward earlier with other coins.

VultureFund, you still think altcoins will rise when the price of bitcoin is so strong? I feel the real crash for altcoins is not here yet. When bitcoin hits 1000 dollars, all altcoins will crash hard in relative to bitcoin and many people will cry.

Agreed. I'm holding Stratis and GameCredits right now, as I believe they offer more promising returns in the next 2-3 months -- especially if the tech teams for both hit their targets and make some big announcements in December and January. Sia isn't going to do nearly as much in that span.

I did put about $4 of satoshi dust into Sia in order to test out the tech behind it. If it works well, I'll invest more in it next year. I don't necessarily need more cloud storage -- I've got an Office 365 subscription that includes 10 TB of OneDrive -- but private, decentralized cloud storage for a quarter of the price of Dropbox or Google Drive is a compelling proposition. A few potential roadblocks:

1.) Pricing. The Sia team needs to make it clearer how much storage actually costs. I presume this is coming down the road.

2.) Platform Integration. Dropbox, Google Drive, and OneDrive all integrate well with Windows Explorer, which makes backups very easy. Dropbox works well with Mac and Linux, too. (I don't know about the others.) Sia isn't on that level yet, and it would do well to get there if it seeks mass adoption.

3.) Legal issues. If the FBI managed to uncover a trove of illegal (or "illegal") content stored on Sia, it could make anyone hosting Sia files a target for prosecution, set up a huge Section 230 challenge in the courts, and scare a ton of hosts off the platform in the interim. I know Sia encrypts files so that hosts don't know and can't access the files they're hosting, but when has that ever stopped an overzealous DOJ prosecution team? (If Sia offers any sort of file sharing between users, the RIAA and MPAA could make a huge stink about the platform, too, though that might end up being nothing more than free advertising, and it's not like Dropbox doesn't offer file sharing already.)

Until 3 becomes a big public issue, though, Sia has potential to shake up the cloud storage market -- not to mention it's a neat idea for a Raspberry Pi project.

https://coinmarketcap.com/charts/#btc-percentage


BTC dominance to the blockchain scene is 85.5% right now. Do you feel that BTC, a chinese centralized, manipulated, slow and expensive coin deserves to be more than 90% of the sector, given the tremendous improvements we're seeing in the last times?

I don't think so, maybe in the short term we can see BTC rising and alts dumping even more, but in any case BTC deserves to be more than 90% of the sector. Q1 and Q2 of 2017 doesn't look promising for alts in general, but in the long term (Q3- Q4 2017-2018) I feel that we will see great rises everywhere.  ;)

Hello,

Thx for your share. I really like follow your thread.

What do you think about Vtorrent ? ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=889481.0 ) 
If you already look this one.
Thx ++

Hi,

any comments on XAUR or DGD ? With gold looking like it's bottoming at the moment, it could be a good time to pick these up as they are gold backed coins, the only crypto out there that is. XAUR looks particularly robust given that BTC is strong, XAUR hasn't gone down that much.

Thanks, DD

Let's investment in XAURUM (XAUR)
I'm sure after the completion of this project will XAUR price high.time the right to buy and store XAUR for today
:D :D

From their website -- Siacoin is used to buy storage on the Sia network. 

There is a glut of cloud space supply, the price is a race to the bottom between the tech giants; sounds fantastic for Sia  ::)

The "race to the bottom" is a danger for Sia, no question. I mentioned earlier that I'm paying ~$76 a year for an Office 365 account that gets me 10TB of OneDrive space. (Compare that to $99/year for 1GB from Dropbox or Google Drive.) In addition, Amazon is offering "unlimited" storage for $60, though my Goodsync client revealed it's not really unlimited. Still, 100TB for $60 doesn't suck.

Sia's primary advantage, then, might be privacy. There are some files that people either can't or wouldn't want to store on servers owned by Google, Microsoft, or Amazon -- especially large video files, which Sia can supposedly handle pretty well. That might make Sia a viable alternative to the big cloud storage players for some, and increased demand would boost the price of Siacoin in the long term.

BTW, I've fiddled around a bit with version 1.0.3 of Sia. The tech is decidedly not ready for prime time just yet. I'll try it again when v1.1 is released.

Dont forget, theres also a race to be able to service MegaUpload 2/Bitcache.

I have a feeling this thread is now used for pumping Altcoins when Bitbay was listed the price was pumped up and now Maidsafe and I will wait and see that becomes Maidsafe in the next few days, if the price get pumped up then I can confirm the pumped theory

Yeah, especially true with LISK, BTS, DCR, NMC   ;D

Well, thousands of "investors" use stupid theories like Macds, Rsi's, etc, to make their trades. That guy is not gonna be worse than 90% of traders outthere.  ;D ;D


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Right. Beside fundamentals all you need is price, volume and Fibs, especially 50 - 61.8 area.

I like the way you created this thread and hope you will be maintaining this thread in the future and i have seen many coins i have not even heard of ,i would bother less to learn all the coins but then i would like to know how you came to a conclusion regarding the coins you listed are good ones and what was the benchmark you have used to evaluate those coins. I would like to know that in details.

as long as enough people decide it's the gold standard then absolutely. the only reason the vast majority are messing with alts is to get more bitcoin.

Sure man.

Alts fall a -40% when BTC goes up a +10% because people wants to get more BTC. People prefer to hold a BTC and get a +40% in a year, when holding good alts they could get an easy 200-300% anually. It makes sense man, nice theory you have lol  ;D ;D ;D

I tell you why does this fact happen:

1. I still don't know why, but seems that the Market Makers of most alts, calculate the price of alts in $$$ value. If BTC goes up a +5%, they will put alts orderbook in a -5%.

2. After alts going down a -5% because of this fact, short term traders associate BTC GOING UP >> ALTS GONNA GO DOWN >> SELL .  When these short term traders sell, they push the price lower, getting a -10% in alts when BTC is only +5%.

3. After this "pro" short term traders have done this, a lot of little fishes like you SELL your alts, because it's going down a -10% and it will keep going down. This little sellers now produce a -15% down in alts, while BTC keeps at +5%.

4. The cycle continues while BTC keeps going up. There's a moment when little fishes are mostly out of the market, and short term traders are not interested in the falling altcoin. When this happens, Alts start to fall in the same % that BTC rises, until there's a moment when BTC goes up a +5%, and Alts keep the price, or even go up. When this moment arrive, you know that little fishes are out and it's time to enter.


Conclusion: Big fishes take advantage of BTC rallies to get cheap Alts from the small fishes, who will be buying later at X2-X4-X10 from the price they sold previously.  ;D ;D

 

This will keep that way, and much much more better man. I'm decided to build the biggest open information blockchain investment fund and I will do that by all means necessary.

You'll have more more info in the coming weeks.  ;)

Hi vulturefund!
Your thread makes sense.. :)
I am convinced with wat you said two post back about the  disparity between alts and btc.
I just wanna ask..how you distinguish between a whale and a small fish? In terms of holding duration?? Or in terms of quantity?

And do you believe in lisk??
what's your thought about it? I see they have long term bag holders but no new development till date..I man how they gonna make this lisk use in day to day?

What's up man


Being a whale or being a little fish doesn't depend on your numbers, but in the way to act. You can act like a whale with 0.01 BTC and you will be considerated as a whale. You can be a short term trader with 1.000 BTC and you'll still be a little fish.

In easy terms, a whale is an INVESTOR in the strict term, and wouldn't matter to hold a position during months. Whales help making the asset price grow, by "retiring" supply from the market (you don't touch your coins during months).
On the other side, little fishes are TRADERS. They enter to get a small % profit in the short term, using T.A, news, rumours or whatever reason they want. These traders put liquidity in the market and basically make the rises bigger rises, and the downfalls bigger downfalls. Short term traders are great for the market when it's bullish, but are really toxic when the market is bearish.


About Lisk, they still haven't access to the ICO funds. In Q1 2017 they will start the development action. The project has enough funds to be succesful, but clearly seems that it may take some months of developments until the first serious dapps are released. 150 M$ most surely won't be completed in next year, but thinking in 2018-2019 it's very possible if they do a decent work. Personally, I won't start investing in Lisk at least minimum Q3 of 2017, cause there are better options in the coming months.

It is quite funny that some people will just come here and make a prediction just because they are holding a tokens. Can you please tell me the project Bitbay is going to displace to enter into top 20 on coinmarketcap.

this topic became a selling point for newbies thinking it will pump their coin :P

Not taking sides here but are you an idiot? He/she mentions several things and posts a link to the dev talking about it

Game is going well lately. Seems like it could be the next one of the list  :).

Did you read the interview?

I wanna explore the potentials of these altcoins.  I think I am a fry wishing to become a whale, so holding on to some of these a little longer might help.

It's a little experiment that I wish to perform.  Hope I come up with a better conclusion and the best output! :)

Anticipation for the Fragoria launch is pumping the price a bit. Datcroft is scheduled to integrate Gamecredits with Fragoria today, so the rest of this month should be interesting. If it goes well and the Gamecredits crew announces more deals, it should hit that $100M target sometime next year.

John Connor got doxxed on these boards. He's not coming back.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1504342.msg17083009#msg17083009

Supposedly, a new dev team has taken over the project and restarted the Slack channel. Others on this board are already suggesting JC's still running the show under a different username. Whatever the case, Vcash's reputation appears ruined. Speculators will probably continue to bat it around like a cat playing with a toy mouse, but even $5 million seems like a pipe dream now for this coin.

^^ This. Fragoria is simply a testing ground. More extensive announcements are 15-30 days out. 2017 will likely we a whirlwind of activity.

There is some merchant adoption in Pesobit, somehow this coins merchant adoption is active.  Dev keeps setting up services and usage around the coin,  Price is  around 5 times the ICO but the ATH was 29x of the ICO price, you can find the thread here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1581240.0.

everyone i think had been supporting a coin so if they have to influence someone to also invest to it, they can respond here telling its one of the best but still it all depend to how readers are going to see it upon investigating. I just hope everyone is suspicious to see ones motives.

Right now, I'm just old enough to appreciate that 1 gamecredit = $0.25.  ;)

I would also include in this list Waves and Stratis. They are doing renovation, moving according to roadmap and potential to make x3.
My words are justified when they are be added to Poloniex.

This also describes Sia, a project I feel has a ton of potential, but I'm not putting another satoshi into it until I can reliably retrieve the test files I've already uploaded there. v1.1 needs to show some serious improvement.

Some of these predictions are great like Gamecredits, been trading terrible lately.

Interesting list. As far as I can see you are going long with most of the top 25 cryptocurrencies, which is quite surprising to me since if bitcoin is strong in 2017 then the altcoin market will probably have a small collapse.

We have already seen this this year, when bitcoin surges, altcoins crash.

I am seriously interested in this list, because some of coins had already fulfilled prediction.

Hey man, that list is good but already old and some coins are very dangerous to trade. Later this month will start the open source fund with more details of coins and precautions to take in each one. Don't miss the birth of Berkshire Hathaway of 21th century  ;)  ;)



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For Waves even run the full nodes wasn't giving anything for them, seems like Waves has an stagnant way. May stratis was being best coin in this time, totally the price still over 2times of ico price. and it can't down below the ico price.

It's just a comprehensive list of dead coins with no future, why should I bother investing in these dead coins when there are already established and proven-to-work coins like Monero amongst others.

Ok thanks, I will wait for further information.

You know you're on to something when the Monero crowd shows up and starts dissing you. Well done, VultureFund.

Looking forward to it. Can anyone invest? Do you have a website set up?

bitbay coin is not potential the big coin
total bitbay coin is very big over one billion so is very dificult incrase high price
volume transaction bitbay is not good, only 3bitcoin/day

Working on everything man. Of course you'll be able to invest.  ;)

It will be something like the fund as at Iconomi? Only with its own characteristics.

I hope Iconomi plattform is ready soon and I can put my managed funds in there. I would love to construct an open-ended fund (like Iconomi Index but much improved), but seems that it will take some time to create that kind of mutual funds in crypto, as liquidity in the markets is still low. That's why my first 2-3 funds will be a small close-ended funds (Example: Fund sells "Retirement fund" shares an initial fixed price and each certain time (3 months- 6months, or making exceptions if some investor needs the moneey) it offers the possibility for investors to go out by liquidating assets and putting buy orders at NAV of the fund (net asset value). It's not as hard as it seems, will explain later more properly. The obvious need is that investors trust in me and the company, that's why all identities, details and everything will be made public.

In addition, all funds & all movements of the fund will be made public real time with proper justifications since 1 January 2017, and a lot of useful info about blockchain investing will be public available, all in a website. My company objective is to put investing $$$ from the streets to the blockchain sector, I'm not really interested in capturing Bitcoiners money.  :)  

l m very interested in about Berkshire Hathaway of 21th century,good luck ;D will follow your thread constantly .

The problems with bitbay are
- 1 Guy holds 170M of the coins: 17% if i am not wrong
- Development is good, but very slow.

These factors make bitbay a coin with potential, but a potential that will never come out.

You are wrong. The guys that stole the ICO coins have all sold up now so is a free and open market which is why it is rising in MK and will continue to do so.
Also David Zimbeck (who created BitHalo) on his own has created the one true decentralised market in the world and had never been done by anyone EVER! And all done with no wage and on his own because nobody is clever enough to do the coding without years of training.  Also he is creating crypto's 1st rolling peg similar to what banks and stocks use to peg Bitbay to the dollar! He is the Bill Gates of Crypto and deserves so much credit! In a year from now Bitbay will be a top 15 coin for sure!
He has acheived more that Ether has acheived and they have $50m to spend! If I was a Ether investor I would be asking what is going on!
Bitbay along with about 3 coins are the only ones where i actually see any work been done! What have Doge or litecoin done over the last 2 years??

Download he wallet and see for yourself!  You will not believe how good it is!

I can attest to that because David (BitBay dev) spent 3.5hrs last weekend teaching me about Blockchain development basics. He barely knows me but he was more than willing to help me because I was eager to learn. Who does that? His only problem is, he is almost too nice for his own good. He showed me the latest version and the future plans for BitBay. I can assure you that there is nothing like it out there. BitBay is a bleeping gold mine!!! Once the pegging system is finished, it will change crypto for good because it will provide stability to the altcoin market.

What happened to David was very unfair but he took it as a challenge and is finishing up what he promised to the investors even though all the ICO funds were scammed by the founders. He has not been paid and told me that he is willing to give up all of his stake in Bay to see it succeed. All the haters really need to download the wallet and check it out before commenting on things they do not know. I agree that resources are a major issue for BitBay but once David is done with the release, he can easily raise funds !!

Thank you again, I'll wait for further developments.

I have also invested to ICONOMI since day one and am still glad it went well and price is not rising up. If receiving dividends will soon be possible and that the team successfully distributed them, i think the price will soon rocket which will most likely make holders rich

Iconomi has not yet launched its main features, fund, dividends. You sure will be in big plus.

Price doesn't skyrocket because of dividends, but because of their discounted growth

VultureFund, what do you think about "Zcoin" and "unitus"?

Vultura I appreciate your call about Start: the coin is at 325k market cap :))) Fuck you!!!

Nobody forced you to invest. Dont blame others for your decisions.

The both was a shit coin and especially about Zcoin and seems like to be the other scam coin right now. It was full with the piece of shit. Totally about zcoin.  You can read more about Zcoin in some thread this day and watch the result about them.  ::)

I'm as fucked as you. I recommend you to accept your mistakes and learn from them, but if you wanna blame someone better send a message to the Startcoin CEO. That guy hyped the project saying he had a super-nice crowfunding plattform ready, tons of contacts ready, etc. And he didn't have a shit. All lies coming from that fat ugly ass.  

https://twitter.com/paradimeshift

I'm sorry for your loses but this is crypto, the wild west of finance. Better diversify your porfolio man  ;D

Some updates of note for three of the coins on VultureFund's list...


Poloniex added Stratis to its exchange this morning, which is where this morning's pump came from. This should be a nice long-term boost for that platform, and given how quickly development is progressing, a few more pumps seem likely in the next three months.

Polo also announced this morning that it is de-listing RDD and GEO, among several others, on January 4. Both have taken huge hits today, so make of that what you will.

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NEXIUM (NXC) IN MY LIST


Current value: 1M$ - 1.5M$ (0.027 $ per NXC)

OBJECTIVE: 7.5 M $

Potential: X6



Not much to say. Nice project coming outtanowhere, cool game is releasing in 6 months, got listed to Polo when we all know how difficult is that and just 1M-1.5M market cap (in fact is much less, I'm counting the dev funds that won't be released to the market anytime soon). Everything under 4K sats is long term present for you, this project should have a similar evolution as Stratis.

I agree, this game is solid and the Nexium (NXC) coin is pretty cheap as of today, and has a huge potential to rise very high considering the amount of coins available and the demand from the game users.

yeah NXC will shoot up

Yeah if 2 noobs claim it will boost, this means it will boost  ;D

LOL Here is the traduction of those newbies post:

Dang I follow the advice and bought it before the dump.

Are you kidding? NXC will be worth 0.01 BTC each next year  ;D ;D ;D

I don't hear anything about "NEXIUM" game. Nothing at Twitch, YouTube, Steam e.t.c.

This thread is useful for me to catch up news from altcoin price.
I will consider some altcoins to invest them . Thanks

The crypto game and that's new game and will never be familiar with the people outside of the crypto world. forgetting about the familiar game site or media in the common world.

can you explain more on nexium.  thanks

I'm sorry but I can't see what the big added, long term value NXC has.. With stratis is do see the potential.. So why do you think it should have a similar evolution?

Maybe it would be better to move that to services instead of altcoin-ann!
I will be watching ;)

Happy new year everyone!