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Title: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on April 23, 2018, 03:06:47 PM
I get merits easily, sure I know "its easy for you as you have been here ages" ETC ETC.. but for those who actually want to level up and be a part of this community then I will do my best to advise you.

Here is a link to the original thread in Meta. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3182178.0

This will help only a few people here as most will just want the bounty Moniez.. but for those who can think a little bigger, and those of you who are here for the right reasons then.

I am adamant the number one cause of no merits is poor English, this is something you can change if you are struggling to get merits so if you know that this is the limitation then you need to take some steps

* Improve your English language, this isnt just spelling and grammar this includes using words like Sir & Mr when I see those I immediately assume the person is a 3rd world poster
* Spend the time that you currently use posting incoherent rubbish to learn proper Written English, start with youtube there has to be over 3002 different videos about writing the English Language also
   https://www.duolingo.com/course/en/ar/Learn-English-Online was recommended by another poster
* Read a few English books, you can download free Ebooks as a starter, look how sentences are structured common words etc.
* Remember a quality post isnt necessarily a long winded post, using words that make you sound like you swallowed a thesauras doesnt help your cause

Take the above advise and stop trying to level up for 3-6 months you will become a quality poster if you use some more of your free time reading the forum, this doesn't mean bounties, altcoins, speculation all the shit subs.. and only post in a few threads every week, no need to try to max out the activity now, sure you want to keep getting towards the higher numbers but its counter productive when we see high activity and 0 merit. Read technical discussion, read all of the most merited threads, understand the significance of Pizza day, the 2011 bubble, Cyprus, HODL, the fall of all the securities that some of us lost the equivalent of $Millions now.

one other thing, you need to stop these bounties, I know it hurts you now financially, but seeing someone in a low end bounty for $20 just makes me assume they are a 3rd world poster and with a great initiative by BTCforJoe there is an option to help https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3055616.0 That thread is a tremendous Idea so props to OP there

a few more things
Do NOT call Sr Members Sir, Mr or any other shit like that, It is not needed.
READ THE FUCKING RULES, both forum rules and individual board rules.
Don't post in Bitcoin Discussion or Economics and wherever you are do NOT post in megathreads, I guarantee you have nothing new to say.
Humor is good, lots of people get merit for silly one liners if they are funny.

Good luck all you newbies, I hope this helps a few of you. Please do not PM me begging for merits, I will ask DT members to tag you if you do.

EDIT: use the search button, so many redundant threads


Title: Join Fit to Talk to practice your English.
Post by: Jet Cash on April 23, 2018, 06:50:48 PM
Don't forget that if you want to practice your English without being accused of polluting the boards, you can join Fit to Talk English (https://fittotalk.com/english-talk/index.php), and you'll get some helpful comments about your posts. It's for Bitcoin Talk members only, and you will need to have made at least 5 posts in the forum.


Title: Re: Join Fit to Talk to practice your English.
Post by: TMAN on April 23, 2018, 07:18:00 PM
Don't forget that if you want to practice your English without being accused of polluting the boards, you can join Fit to Talk English (https://fittotalk.com/english-talk/index.php), and you'll get some helpful comments about your posts. It's for Bitcoin Talk members only, and you will need to have made at least 5 posts in the forum.

JC is the man for doing this, people who need help with communicating in English should really reach out for help


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: paiinfo on April 23, 2018, 08:38:56 PM
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READ THE FUCKING RULES, both forum rules and individual board rules.
"Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ" : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0)


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: 23xfi on April 23, 2018, 09:03:38 PM
It seems it's more difficult to earn merits while only posting comments (replies) as opposed to putting up actual posts that others comment on. Doesn't this just unnecessarily increase the number of posts on the forum or is that a sign of a healthy forum?


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TweetBirds on April 23, 2018, 09:06:33 PM
.... Read technical discussion, read all of the most merited threads, understand the significance of Pizza day, the 2011 bubble, Cyprus, HODL, the fall of all the securities that some of us lost the equivalent of $Millions now.
....

Please, understand the significance of HOLD, spelled properly.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: paxmao on April 23, 2018, 09:13:27 PM
Please, do not put that much emphasis on language and get more into the meat of the posts. If I can understand a post, I would consider it for merit only based on the ideas, sources, knowledge, etc. If the poster has a shitty English (like myself) but a great crypto knowledge I am happy to have him/her around.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Jet Cash on April 23, 2018, 09:32:17 PM
I agree to a certain extend, but if a reader has little time, then he is likely to skip a post that is hard to read, and that can lose the chance of a merit


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Zwei on April 23, 2018, 09:34:50 PM
another good source to learn English is ted talks, as they are translated to most spoken language in the world, they been a great help to me.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on April 24, 2018, 04:23:04 AM
.... Read technical discussion, read all of the most merited threads, understand the significance of Pizza day, the 2011 bubble, Cyprus, HODL, the fall of all the securities that some of us lost the equivalent of $Millions now.
....

Please, understand the significance of HOLD, spelled properly.

Ok I'll give you a chance as you are new, I will only say that I am right and you are wrong. Post the correct thread here and I'll give you a merit once you apologise.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: r1s2g3 on April 24, 2018, 06:26:26 AM

@TMAN.

Nice to see you in the beginners forum. May be your's and Jetcash effort will help the forum in long run.

@TweetBirds
If you are looking for  help (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.0), you will find it here then


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Kakmakr on April 24, 2018, 06:58:16 AM
OP, Why is proper English a requirement for Merit? I have seen 1000s of posts on this forum with proper English, but it adds little to the discussion. I give merit for constructive posts that adds value to the discussions. You can write a Wall of Text, with proper English and it still adds no value.

The English language requirement for some sections on this forum is acceptable, because it is a universal and popular language.  Out of the world's approximately 7.5 billion inhabitants, 1.5 billion speak English — that's 20% of the Earth's population. However, most of those people aren't native English speakers. About 360 million people speak English as their first language.

http://www.stgeorges.co.uk/blog/learn-english/how-many-people-in-the-world-speak-english

So if 80% of the rest of the world speak other languages, should we exclude them from our main Bitcoin discussions?

Also the use of "3rd world poster" as a derogatory labelling of non-English posters are simply wrong. Would you say, Italian and German people are "3rd world posters", because they do not use English as their first language?   :(


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on April 24, 2018, 07:13:05 AM
.... Read technical discussion, read all of the most merited threads, understand the significance of Pizza day, the 2011 bubble, Cyprus, HODL, the fall of all the securities that some of us lost the equivalent of $Millions now.
....

Please, understand the significance of HOLD, spelled properly.

Ok I'll give you a chance as you are new, I will only say that I am right and you are wrong. Post the correct thread here and I'll give you a merit once you apologise.

I'll give him a tip > check the links in my signature and if you read all of it, you may find the answer ^ :-D

@OP I see you crossed the merit border, congrats on that, now only activity and luck to get to the Legen-Wait For It... DARY!


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: danjonbit on April 24, 2018, 07:30:54 AM
As I see on what you want to preach. all those members that dont have proper English is a 3rd world shit poster!
You might consider your language there, it is near to racism. it is not their fault that they (im one of those) are not born in an English land!
But still proper english is not all that are needed to get a merit, yes it is one way to communicate and to understand things here but without a good value and knowledge with it, a sentence wont have a value.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on April 24, 2018, 07:50:04 AM
OP, Why is proper English a requirement for Merit? I have seen 1000s of posts on this forum with proper English, but it adds little to the discussion. I give merit for constructive posts that adds value to the discussions. You can write a Wall of Text, with proper English and it still adds no value.

The English language requirement for some sections on this forum is acceptable, because it is a universal and popular language.  Out of the world's approximately 7.5 billion inhabitants, 1.5 billion speak English — that's 20% of the Earth's population. However, most of those people aren't native English speakers. About 360 million people speak English as their first language.

http://www.stgeorges.co.uk/blog/learn-english/how-many-people-in-the-world-speak-english

So if 80% of the rest of the world speak other languages, should we exclude them from our main Bitcoin discussions?

Also the use of "3rd world poster" as a derogatory labelling of non-English posters are simply wrong. Would you say, Italian and German people are "3rd world posters", because they do not use English as their first language?   :(

This is an English language forum so I need to be able to understand what people are posting. EU based members do not post the horse shit google translate 100 words when 1 will do shitposts, I know plenty of Dutch and German posters that type better English than I do, Your English is probably better than mine.. This isn't a pop at you buddy, its the Asian bounty hunting groups that are causing the issue.

As for defining a quality post, that isn't what I am trying to do here. A quality post is subjective to the reader, Lauda will expect perfect technical knowledge, I prefer something with humor..

This is to help newbies stand out and get the attention of merit sources. Agree, disagree or call me a racist - as I said it is all subjective.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TheQuin on April 24, 2018, 08:14:43 AM
OP, Why is proper English a requirement for Merit? I have seen 1000s of posts on this forum with proper English, but it adds little to the discussion. I give merit for constructive posts that adds value to the discussions. You can write a Wall of Text, with proper English and it still adds no value.

There are plenty of posts written in English so poor it is impossible to understand the point they are trying to make. That has to be a barrier to receiving merit. Of course there are plenty of posts written in good English that also have no value but that doesn't mean that if someone posts on the English language sections then a minimum level of competence in the language is required. I wouldn't dream of using Google translate and then posting the result on a local board.

The English language requirement for some sections on this forum is acceptable, because it is a universal and popular language.  Out of the world's approximately 7.5 billion inhabitants, 1.5 billion speak English — that's 20% of the Earth's population. However, most of those people aren't native English speakers. About 360 million people speak English as their first language.

http://www.stgeorges.co.uk/blog/learn-english/how-many-people-in-the-world-speak-english

I know it isn't that relevant but those numbers a well out of date. That site uses a 12 year old book as a source. The population of US is now 325.7 million, UK 65.6 million exceeds that even before the other 65 nations that have English as the official language are added.

So if 80% of the rest of the world speak other languages, should we exclude them from our main Bitcoin discussions?

Also the use of "3rd world poster" as a derogatory labelling of non-English posters are simply wrong. Would you say, Italian and German people are "3rd world posters", because they do not use English as their first language?   :(

I've met people on here that I didn't even realise were not native English speakers until they told me. Others I just can't understand what they are trying to say. Nobody wants to exclude anyone from the main Bitcoin discussion based on nationality but there is a minimum ability in the English language required to make a meaningful contribution.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: theyoungmillionaire on April 24, 2018, 08:18:14 AM
.... Read technical discussion, read all of the most merited threads, understand the significance of Pizza day, the 2011 bubble, Cyprus, HODL, the fall of all the securities that some of us lost the equivalent of $Millions now.
....

Please, understand the significance of HOLD, spelled properly.

You might want to read this topic first Cryptocurrency Lingo/Slang (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3250658.0)

1. HODL
Hold On for Dear Life. A crypto trader who buys a coin and does not see himself selling in the foreseeable future is called a hodler of the coin.

You can check the iconic post here: I AM HODLING (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.0)


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on April 24, 2018, 08:32:50 AM
Thanks TheQuin & theyoungmillionaire.. now all the negativity has been dealt with, if anyone else needs help/advise then please post away.

The thread in meta was positive, most newbies don't even have a clue what meta is though so I thought I would post it here to help. If other senior members who have been merited frequently want to chime in to help the newbies then please feel free. 

I don't want to get into dissecting what a quality post is, what I want here is the discussion around what is not a quality post, this isn't about spoon feeding merits.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Kakmakr on April 24, 2018, 08:37:07 AM
OP, Why is proper English a requirement for Merit? I have seen 1000s of posts on this forum with proper English, but it adds little to the discussion. I give merit for constructive posts that adds value to the discussions. You can write a Wall of Text, with proper English and it still adds no value.

The English language requirement for some sections on this forum is acceptable, because it is a universal and popular language.  Out of the world's approximately 7.5 billion inhabitants, 1.5 billion speak English — that's 20% of the Earth's population. However, most of those people aren't native English speakers. About 360 million people speak English as their first language.

http://www.stgeorges.co.uk/blog/learn-english/how-many-people-in-the-world-speak-english

So if 80% of the rest of the world speak other languages, should we exclude them from our main Bitcoin discussions?

Also the use of "3rd world poster" as a derogatory labelling of non-English posters are simply wrong. Would you say, Italian and German people are "3rd world posters", because they do not use English as their first language?   :(

This is an English language forum so I need to be able to understand what people are posting. EU based members do not post the horse shit google translate 100 words when 1 will do shitposts, I know plenty of Dutch and German posters that type better English than I do, Your English is probably better than mine.. This isn't a pop at you buddy, its the Asian bounty hunting groups that are causing the issue.

As for defining a quality post, that isn't what I am trying to do here. A quality post is subjective to the reader, Lauda will expect perfect technical knowledge, I prefer something with humor..

This is to help newbies stand out and get the attention of merit sources. Agree, disagree or call me a racist - as I said it is all subjective.

My intentions with my reply was not meant to offend anyone or to be negative. Let's just get that out of the way first, before we can have a meaningful discussion about this topic. I think the people who are offended are the people who are labelled as shitposters, because they cannot write posts in proper English.

I like to believe that I am semi-bilingual, but English is not my first language, so I struggle at times. My gripe is with the Grammar Nazi's <Slang>, who constantly wants to use refined vocabulary and grammar on a platform that are frequented by people from many different countries and also different languages.

It is sometimes very difficult to express yourself in another language <English>, when that language is not your first language. These people have to work harder to adhere to the high post requirements and has to put in a lot more effort to express themselves. Instead of penalizing these people and labelling them, we should applaud them for their extra efforts.

I do agree with you, that some standards should be uphold to make things easier and simple to understand, but if posts are not 100% correct < spelling and grammar>, then we should not disregard these contributions.

Let's tolerate some errors in spelling and grammar and rather concentrate on the content of the message. <It can still add a lot of value>  ;)

 


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on April 24, 2018, 08:42:01 AM
As I see on what you want to preach. all those members that dont have proper English is a 3rd world shit poster!
You might consider your language there, it is near to racism. it is not their fault that they (im one of those) are not born in an English land!
But still proper english is not all that are needed to get a merit, yes it is one way to communicate and to understand things here but without a good value and knowledge with it, a sentence wont have a value.

Here the things are a bit more different, it's not matter of racism but the access to the merit and those who distribute it. If you can express yourself in english, you have a higher chances to get some, otherwise you have to hope that fellow countrymen, speaking your language can merit you, if you deserve of course.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on April 24, 2018, 08:58:59 AM

I think the people who are offended are the people who are labelled as shitposters, because they cannot write posts in proper English.
 

THIS ISNT ABOUT YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WHO POSTS AT THE SAME LEVEL AS YOU!

Sorry but I had to do that in capitals so it gets through to you and anyone else of a similar level of English

check this thread in bitcoin discussion.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3352196.0

er...
bitcoin transaction has advantages and disadvantages. for example, sometimes bitcoin transaction takes a lot of time even for a high fee, that obvious disadvantage for bitcoin, but it is still can be developed. for me, i really enjoy use bitcoin because i think bitcoin is easy to use it, especially for international transaction.

whats this?
Bitcoin is easy to use and easy to buy, but making it as our payment system is a bad idea, first of all on its transaction you need to pay a high transaction fee for waiting a long of time to receive or send the transactions that one of advantage. even if bitcoin develops and upgrades its system it is impossible even now some of the countries ban it  just think if you make it a payment system not all will agree.

and?
The advantages of bitcoin relative to legal currency are more directly reflected in the payment technology level. As with the credit expansion level, the payment technology of the legal tender system can be adopted, while many of the technologies paid by bitcoin are not realized by fiat money.

that's only from the 1st page, I swear I could get my kids pet cat to walk across the keyboard and make more coherent sentences


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: nadbucs on April 24, 2018, 10:00:39 AM
Really appreciated this very informative post especially from the ranked user who is really trying their best to educate newbies. Thumbs up to TMAN. This will really helps the forum users who   wants to ranked up specially those recently registered in this forum like me. This explained very well and newcomers will clearly understand what actually merit system affected the quality of this forum.
To those crying about merit system, this will guide you step by step and helps you achieved your goals to ranked up.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: jukimay on April 24, 2018, 10:35:17 AM
I think posting like this should be much more in the future, because it is very helpful for us junior members. and like words, open your mind before opening your mouth. very helpful  ;)

Best Regards


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: vlad230 on April 24, 2018, 10:49:10 AM
Alongside posting in decent English (for people to understand what you're saying) another good point would be to make sure your posts are visible.

So, posting in long & useless mega-threads (after page 5) will not get you any merits. You will just be increasing the spam and making the whole forum experience worse for everyone.

You can also get more visibility by posting in review service threads like the one TMAN has open or you can also post in mine here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3212390.0



Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on April 24, 2018, 10:49:30 AM
I think posting like this should be much more in the future, because it is very helpful for us junior members. and like words, open your mind before opening your mouth. very helpful  ;)

Best Regards

Really appreciated this very informative post especially from the ranked user who is really trying their best to educate newbies. Thumbs up to TMAN. This will really helps the forum users who   wants to ranked up specially those recently registered in this forum like me. This explained very well and newcomers will clearly understand what actually merit system affected the quality of this forum.
To those crying about merit system, this will guide you step by step and helps you achieved your goals to ranked up.

Thanks. I am glad this is helping some members. One other thing to add, USE SEARCH : if you have a question or an idea that you want to start your own thread about then search 1st, in all likelihood there are already multiple threads out there, if you make redundant threads you risk being put on ignore by the merit sources


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Komorhan on April 24, 2018, 03:23:55 PM
do you think everyone is just about merit? just open multiple accounts for signature campaigns and send merit to their accounts. I want them to have a solution. all I can ask is "justice".


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Gabteb on April 24, 2018, 03:30:53 PM
I think beeing here and even writing with wrong Englsih helps to improve it anyway ,i see that and feel that, i think BTC,crypto could be purpose and english method so with time we will have good englsih and wotk here.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Acoje on April 24, 2018, 04:17:35 PM
Hmmmm I'm composing a topic before I put it somewhere in meta, I think pen and paper are still needed when creating a thread and put some details and check again before encoding.

This might help you to improve your constructive post when you are not in front of your PC.
I see some threads with too much wrong gramming,  misspelled,  and grammatically error but some stupid hero members/ full members/ members/ and even legendary account are just answering the thread with out even advising the OP to correct their mistakes....



Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: zool2003 on April 24, 2018, 07:53:12 PM
@TMAN,

What you say all makes sense,

I have just finished a long Signature Campaign (for an ICO that I really like) and now that its finished, its like a weight has been lifted. No more checking spread sheets and watching how many posts etc.

Definitely looking forward to a signature less time out!


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Indohunter on April 25, 2018, 01:45:19 AM
do you think everyone is just about merit?

I think do not to be offended, TMAN create this post, for people who have something important that need to be shared, but they can't write English properly. It's a chance for those people including me (non English peoples) to improve our English. In a fact, there are a lot peoples creating a new post every hours. What they are looking for? Some of them show us that they want to get some merit after handing out their posts, And the rest just hiding it. It's the honest thought. Anyway, I didn't see any negative in this TMAN's thread.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: hoanghai101296 on April 25, 2018, 02:18:03 AM
Thank you for sharing.I still learn English through movies with English subtitles and participating in the translation program helps me make money and help me improve my English skills.Again thank you, wish you a good day


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Kakmakr on April 25, 2018, 05:43:15 AM

I think the people who are offended are the people who are labelled as shitposters, because they cannot write posts in proper English.
 

THIS ISNT ABOUT YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WHO POSTS AT THE SAME LEVEL AS YOU!

Sorry but I had to do that in capitals so it gets through to you and anyone else of a similar level of English

check this thread in bitcoin discussion.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3352196.0

er...
bitcoin transaction has advantages and disadvantages. for example, sometimes bitcoin transaction takes a lot of time even for a high fee, that obvious disadvantage for bitcoin, but it is still can be developed. for me, i really enjoy use bitcoin because i think bitcoin is easy to use it, especially for international transaction.

whats this?
Bitcoin is easy to use and easy to buy, but making it as our payment system is a bad idea, first of all on its transaction you need to pay a high transaction fee for waiting a long of time to receive or send the transactions that one of advantage. even if bitcoin develops and upgrades its system it is impossible even now some of the countries ban it  just think if you make it a payment system not all will agree.

and?
The advantages of bitcoin relative to legal currency are more directly reflected in the payment technology level. As with the credit expansion level, the payment technology of the legal tender system can be adopted, while many of the technologies paid by bitcoin are not realized by fiat money.

that's only from the 1st page, I swear I could get my kids pet cat to walk across the keyboard and make more coherent sentences

I never thought it was about me, because I received 58 merit points without using 100% proper English.  

There is nothing wrong with you helping people to acquire merit, but this forum can be filled with posts with proper English and it will still add ZERO value, because the content is crap and off-topic.

We are looking for people who can ask intelligent questions and who can analyse problems and come up with novel solutions. We want fresh and stimulating content and even something with a little humour. <Like you said, in one of your previous posts>

I hope the people ON MY LEVEL  ::), that can speak and write more than one Languages, gets this. <B.t.w I speak 4 languages and I can write 3>  ::)


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Moiyah on April 25, 2018, 09:48:50 AM
To be honest Tman, ever since this merit system was introduced to the forum, a lot of comments,  discussions and debates are happening. In spite of that, I am silently reading and following your threads/posts as your honest criticisms captured my interest. But now, I decided to come out of the shell and express my sincere gratitude to you. Since you inspired me a lot, I have took your opinions and suggestions as a challenge for me to be able to write high quality and constructive posts in an improved grammar.

Btw, I am from the Third World country and English is not my first language.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: virendarnagpal on April 25, 2018, 10:48:00 AM
Please, do not put that much emphasis on language and get more into the meat of the posts. If I can understand a post, I would consider it for merit only based on the ideas, sources, knowledge, etc. If the poster has a shitty English (like myself) but a great crypto knowledge I am happy to have him/her around.

I am also unable to understand what is the problem with small grammar mistakes.  If some English speaking man tries to speak in my native language and is able to communicate with some mistakes I will welcome him.  I will appreciate him. 
I think a sense of supremacy is there in the minds  of English people.  What is there in the language?  Communication should be complete and understandable. There is also difference of culture.  People from eastern world are brought up in a culture where you have to use respect showing words while speaking to your seniors, elders.  But if the same respect is given to those English type people ; they take it otherwise.    ;)
Japanese people when meet others bow down to show respect.  It is part of their culture.  And the people claiming to be "class A" may be taking it otherwise in their own way.
I was using sir while addressing others; just because of my habit of paying respect but after reading such comments; I have stopped, but only on bitcoin forum.  Otherwise in my routing life I can not behave like this.  I have to respect my elders with respect showing words.

My experience is ; While in Rome do as Romans do. 
If by not using such words someone is satisfied why shall I use? ;D


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on April 25, 2018, 11:00:45 AM
To be honest Tman, ever since this merit system was introduced to the forum, a lot of comments,  discussions and debates are happening. In spite of that, I am silently reading and following your threads/posts as your honest criticisms captured my interest. But now, I decided to come out of the shell and express my sincere gratitude to you. Since you inspired me a lot, I have took your opinions and suggestions as a challenge for me to be able to write high quality and constructive posts in an improved grammar.

Btw, I am from the Third World country and English is not my first language.

Good to hear man

I am also unable to understand what is the problem with small grammar mistakes.  If some English speaking man tries to speak in my native language and is able to communicate with some mistakes I will welcome him.  I will appreciate him. 
I think a sense of supremacy is there in the minds  of English people.  What is there in the language?  Communication should be complete and understandable. There is also difference of culture.  People from eastern world are brought up in a culture where you have to use respect showing words while speaking to your seniors, elders.  But if the same respect is given to those English type people ; they take it otherwise.    ;)
Japanese people when meet others bow down to show respect.  It is part of their culture.  And the people claiming to be "class A" may be taking it otherwise in their own way.
I was using sir while addressing others; just because of my habit of paying respect but after reading such comments; I have stopped, but only on bitcoin forum.  Otherwise in my routing life I can not behave like this.  I have to respect my elders with respect showing words.

My experience is ; While in Rome do as Romans do. 
If by not using such words someone is satisfied why shall I use? ;D


Dude its not grammar, mine is far from perfect it is the total shitposts that look like I took my penis and randomly jammed it into the keyboard repeatedly. Its the people we cannot understand that is the issue, there is nothing wrong with your post I can read it fine dude.

now the Sir thing is stupid, some posters see it as respect - 9/10 posters from the west hate it.

you need to look to others for advise if you are lacking merits fella, this isn't directed at you.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: caotringhia on April 25, 2018, 12:05:09 PM
I almost use google translate for discussion. I think the quickest way to be good at English is to contact people who speak English everyday.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on April 25, 2018, 12:13:19 PM
I almost use google translate for discussion. I think the quickest way to be good at English is to contact people who speak English everyday.

well fella that is a quick way to get 0 merits, same with joining all those bounties and it has to be said that if you post like the below you will have 0 merits in a year.

Currently, there are too many ICOs on the market, which is why many ICOs fail. Maybe their product is not good, the promotion is not widespread, and the community is less.

So its up to you, learn, adapt and become part of the community then have the possibility of getting on a decent signature campaign at 0.03BTC a week.. or keep hunting for the $10 bounties.


T


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: MinoRaiola on April 25, 2018, 12:40:22 PM
my english is not the yellow of the egg, but it goes (german proverb)
and it breaks the ice (another)  :D


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on April 25, 2018, 12:41:48 PM
It may also be time for me to experience this forum, there is too much knowledge I do not understand. So I'm not in a hurry to find merit.

Then just read, that is my whole point, 0 Value posts waste everyone's time - especially yours. You could spend that time reading posts and learning any words you struggle with.. In time there will be a whole sea of people with 200+ activity and 0 Merit, those people will be put on ignore by merit sources. Do you understand the long term consequences of that?


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Get_Rich on April 25, 2018, 01:09:59 PM
As a jr member, is in need of merit to rise to the next rank that member.
Who does not want to give free merit to rank up to the member ?, everyone will want to give free merit.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: caotringhia on April 25, 2018, 01:15:09 PM
It may also be time for me to experience this forum, there is too much knowledge I do not understand. So I'm not in a hurry to find merit.

Then just read, that is my whole point, 0 Value posts waste everyone's time - especially yours. You could spend that time reading posts and learning any words you struggle with.. In time there will be a whole sea of people with 200+ activity and 0 Merit, those people will be put on ignore by merit sources. Do you understand the long term consequences of that?

Yes i understand that, I deleted the comment earlier because i edited too much, hope you sympathize. Thank you.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on April 25, 2018, 02:18:41 PM
As a jr member, is in need of merit to rise to the next rank that member.
Who does not want to give free merit to rank up to the member ?, everyone will want to give free merit.

you are not going to get merits, you are about to go on my ignore list. Do you want to know why?

400+ posts in 3 months
I check your last posts and all I saw was bounties and merits.
and lastly - WTF is this horse shit?
Who does not want to give free merit to rank up to the member ?, everyone will want to give free merit.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: jhon20 on April 25, 2018, 02:35:40 PM
I want to have a merit for the reasons that is trusted and giving a helpful idea and good opinion to helping one project oor other purposes im jr.member now waiting who willing to give free merits i hope that let everyone be good to others.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on April 25, 2018, 02:45:10 PM
I want to have a merit for the reasons that is trusted and giving a helpful idea and good opinion to helping one project oor other purposes im jr.member now waiting who willing to give free merits i hope that let everyone be good to others.

Begging for merits, horse shit posts..

This fuloos project aiming the most higher on  demand exchange that can be profitable to user's the advantage of fuloos project are easily can hold coins in doing in the way of transaction in order it should be in apps store that can be trade coins.

Ignore... maybe this will help some other members who want to be part of this community. I really hope so


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: chuchu111 on April 25, 2018, 02:46:35 PM
The first post I get to open and it's a goldmine. Thanks for the heads up, will try my best not to indulge myself in bounties


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on April 25, 2018, 02:47:46 PM
The first post I get to open and it's a goldmine. Thanks for the heads up, will try my best not to indulge myself in bounties

Dude I only came into this sub to help some people out and possibly rain some merits on people who I see as deserving, Right now I think I am suffering from eye cancer after reading the latest posts other than yours.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Indohunter on April 25, 2018, 02:55:22 PM
I almost use google translate for discussion. I think the quickest way to be good at English is to contact people who speak English everyday.
Are you remember this one..
Thank TMAN, now I will learn, although it is hard for me.
Seems like you are agree with TMAN's guide before and now you come to this posts with different thought that you are not agree with it anymore. Whats wrong with you, mate?


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on April 25, 2018, 03:07:58 PM
I almost use google translate for discussion. I think the quickest way to be good at English is to contact people who speak English everyday.
Are you remember this one..
Thank TMAN, now I will learn, although it is hard for me.
Seems like you are agree with TMAN's guide before and now you come to this posts with different thought that you are not agree with it anymore. Whats wrong with you, mate?

ahh my favorite would of been shitposter who listened and was rewarded!! How you getting on man?  Thanks for pointing it out, the bloke is on ignore now.

So for all the posters here who think I am full of shit, can you fill them in on what happened and how it has benefited you? make it a decent post and you of course will get more merits!


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: bangcrypto on April 25, 2018, 05:06:25 PM
I believe everyone ever become a newbie before become a legend. As a newbie, I try to make a great post, with structural post or comments. But, there are not guidelines for us, which one of post is play with structured post? It makes a newbie is very hard to get merit. Sorry for that. I just said what i fell today.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on April 25, 2018, 05:13:09 PM
I believe everyone ever become a newbie before become a legend. As a newbie, I try to make a great post, with structural post or comments. But, there are not guidelines for us, which one of post is play with structured post? It makes a newbie is very hard to get merit. Sorry for that. I just said what i fell today.

Before this post you made 3 posts. The 1st 3 posts on this fucking forum were in bounty threads..

You young pajeet haven't even read my op...


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: AlekSandRAx on April 25, 2018, 06:12:29 PM
And if for all the posts you made and believe they are merit worthy, you still haven't got any, don't go complaining on the forum in like 100 posts. Just try harder!


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: eaLiTy on April 26, 2018, 12:12:58 AM
I am adamant the number one cause of no merits is poor English, this is something you can change if you are struggling to get merits so if you know that this is the limitation then you need to take some steps
Sure that is a major factor but not always.  :)

Quote
just makes me assume they are a 3rd world poster
I do agree with this as there are a lot of shit posters and i have reported 525 posts with 98% accuracy but majority of them are from non English speaking users and majority from advert spam from newbie accounts but does that mean that non English speakers are 3rd world poster. ;)

Congrats on reaching 1060 Merits by the way and thanks for the  insight on (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3335861.msg35312088#msg35312088) how to get merits. :D :D


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Indohunter on April 26, 2018, 02:55:41 AM
ahh my favorite would of been shitposter who listened and was rewarded!! How you getting on man?  Thanks for pointing it out, the bloke is on ignore now.
I've come to his last posts and found that.

So for all the posters here who think I am full of shit, can you fill them in on what happened and how it has benefited you? make it a decent post and you of course will get more merits!
well,
First of all I'd like to say this is an English-speaking forum. So if we want to be a part on this forum we should have proper English, especially on writing. I'm sure all of you are realized it, it's the fact. Just because I'm not an English people and English isn't my first language, doesn't mean I'm surrender on it. I take TMAN's guide to learn proper English. I find this to be very important, because as I know I'm not an English people. It is a must for me.
What the benefits that I get from this learning :
I've found my self getting better than before (that is what I feel). Now, I began to distinguish which words were worthy of use to the topic which I fall in to, and much more. In real life, it's also helps me. I'm a designer for a local apparel brand. Now the company where I working for, the business is growing rapidly. We get order from various countries in Asia, by looking at this situation, it's requires me to be able to communicate with English even though in form email to discuss with our buyer.

Yah, all I'm saying is that learning proper English will give you so much benefits both in this forum and in real life. And for those people who say and think that TMAN's advice is nothing, they are definitely wrong. Pls take the positive things on it, and come out from your mind which says " well, we still have Google translate as our heroes". I'm didn't judge that using these tool is a mistake. But if you just copy and paste the entire result from it. ~You should punch yourself in the face 20 times every time you post~ This quote from TMAN.

Me, also still not good enough on writing. But hey, lets learning together. Just spent an hour of entire our time in a day, I think it's enough and not a difficult thing. Learn also how to create a good posts by looking higher rank members. It's much help us to be more better as member here.



Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: colkcolk on April 26, 2018, 03:37:48 AM
I understand the purpose of OP for improving English skills, even me still need to improve as they are some word of vocabulary that is not familiar and need to consult with dictionary such as google translate. But to be an English as native language, I think it will need long time to learn. But the more important thing is how to communicate clearly and understandable for most people, if not using English very well then can be added by picture or any other tools.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: 1993jochico on April 26, 2018, 03:49:25 AM
I just want to add that whenever you post something make sure you are in the right section always check where you at.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Gwapoman on April 26, 2018, 03:59:30 AM
.... Read technical discussion, read all of the most merited threads, understand the significance of Pizza day, the 2011 bubble, Cyprus, HODL, the fall of all the securities that some of us lost the equivalent of $Millions now.
....

Please, understand the significance of HOLD, spelled properly.

HODL is a term used by traders not to sell your crypto holdings...actually it really means HOLD, someone just mispelled it.after that people prefer to use HODL than HOLD.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: hurry_hore on April 26, 2018, 04:45:19 AM
.... Read technical discussion, read all of the most merited threads, understand the significance of Pizza day, the 2011 bubble, Cyprus, HODL, the fall of all the securities that some of us lost the equivalent of $Millions now.
....

Please, understand the significance of HOLD, spelled properly.

HODL is a term used by traders not to sell your crypto holdings...actually it really means HOLD, someone just mispelled it.after that people prefer to use HODL than HOLD.


I think to help newbies understand with this forum, it will be better to create list of special terms used in crypto space as I see this thread is talking on improving English as communication tools in global thread. But some of English words are misspelled for certain reason perhaps. Here are some of special terms to be used in crypto space:

HODL : misspelled from HOLD which is meaning of Still keep the tokens/coin from selling.
DUMP : Effort to decrease the token value, some efforts are by selling a lot with much cheaper price than normal value or to spread FUD.
PUMP : Effort to increase the token/coin value, some efforts are by buying a lot with much higher price than normal value or to spread good news
FUD   : stand for Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. This is usually relevant for bad news or incorrect news.

 


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: theyoungmillionaire on April 26, 2018, 04:55:09 AM
-snip-


I think to help newbies understand with this forum, it will be better to create list of special terms used in crypto space as I see this thread is talking on improving English as communication tools in global thread. But some of English words are misspelled for certain reason perhaps. Here are some of special terms to be used in crypto space:

HODL : misspelled from HOLD which is meaning of Still keep the tokens/coin from selling.
DUMP : Effort to decrease the token value, some efforts are by selling a lot with much cheaper price than normal value or to spread FUD.
PUMP : Effort to increase the token/coin value, some efforts are by buying a lot with much higher price than normal value or to spread good news
FUD   : stand for Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. This is usually relevant for bad news or incorrect news.
 

If only people do their research, it is already on this topic Cryptocurrency Lingo/Slang (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3250658.0)


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: The Cryptovator on April 26, 2018, 05:20:21 AM
Your every point is correct and helpful for new member's on this forum. This forum is not only for earning money from bounty. So many thing we have to learn from this forum and old member's. Because those we are new here we haven't much idea about crypto and benefits of this forum. Bitcoin talk is most powerful crypto discussion forum. So here we must use good language and quality post. Thanks for your post I have learn many things from here.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on April 27, 2018, 05:41:10 AM

Me, also still not good enough on writing. But hey, lets learning together. Just spent an hour of entire our time in a day, I think it's enough and not a difficult thing. Learn also how to create a good posts by looking higher rank members. It's much help us to be more better as member here.



I gave you 1 merit for trying dude, but this whole thing needs work - please improve on the above initially for more merits..


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Bharathi13 on April 27, 2018, 08:04:41 AM
I am new to to Bitcointalk forum some of my friends suggested me if you want to learn more about Bitcointalk forum then go to the meta section you will learn very useful things. Than I found this post, this post is very useful for me as I want to improve my English. This post shows direction for how to improve English verbal and written which is useful in this forum but also in real life. I will surely follow this post direction and improve my English.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: cryptothief on April 27, 2018, 08:17:05 AM
I am new to to Bitcointalk forum some of my friends suggested me if you want to learn more about Bitcointalk forum then go to the meta section you will learn very useful things. Than I found this post, this post is very useful for me as I want to improve my English. This post shows direction for how to improve English verbal and written which is useful in this forum but also in real life. I will surely follow this post direction and improve my English.

Just a helpful tip, this forum is not the place to come to learn English. There are much easier/quicker/better places to do that. Use outside resources to learn English and visit the forum to read the threads you're interested in - presuming your reading is better than your writing? I'm not going to bother telling you where to learn English, Google and YouTube will point you in the right direction. My advice, stick to your local language section for any posting for the moment, and don't use Bitcointalk to learn English.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Bharathi13 on April 27, 2018, 02:16:13 PM
I am new to to Bitcointalk forum some of my friends suggested me if you want to learn more about Bitcointalk forum then go to the meta section you will learn very useful things. Than I found this post, this post is very useful for me as I want to improve my English. This post shows direction for how to improve English verbal and written which is useful in this forum but also in real life. I will surely follow this post direction and improve my English.

Just a helpful tip, this forum is not the place to come to learn English. There are much easier/quicker/better places to do that. Use outside resources to learn English and visit the forum to read the threads you're interested in - presuming your reading is better than your writing? I'm not going to bother telling you where to learn English, Google and YouTube will point you in the right direction. My advice, stick to your local language section for any posting for the moment, and don't use Bitcointalk to learn English.

You are considering me wrong but thank you so much for your suggestions, I am not here to learn English only 😀😀😀. I know Bitcointalk forum is the big platform to learn more about Bitcoin, blockchain technology and cryptocurrency, mining cryptocurrency. Bitcointalk forum is the platform where members from different part of the globe share their views, learnings, and knowledge so that other members can be aware and learn easily.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Indohunter on April 27, 2018, 02:24:55 PM
I gave you 1 merit for trying dude, but this whole thing needs work - please improve on the above initially for more merits..
well noted above, TMAN.
sure, I will. Thank you for correct me.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on April 27, 2018, 02:29:35 PM
You are considering me wrong but thank you so much for your suggestions, I am not here to learn English only 😀😀😀. I know Bitcointalk forum is the big platform to learn more about Bitcoin, blockchain technology and cryptocurrency, mining cryptocurrency. Bitcointalk forum is the platform where members from different part of the globe share their views, learnings, and knowledge so that other members can be aware and learn easily.

Ok then stop posting, what newbies need to do is learn how to use the search feature.. No offence to anyone new, we were all new once, but you posting this adds little value to the forum fella - you need to learn and start with Bitcoin, not alts/ICO/Bounties or any of that shit just Bitcoin, read for a month whilst learning English further then come and start posting a little. Longer term those who read more than they post become more knowledgeable and in turn you will help other newbies and may get some merits sent to you, that will enable you to rank up.. which I would guess with 99.9% accuracy is what you are here for as you really want to earn some moniez!


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: soccer_crowds on April 27, 2018, 02:43:58 PM
....
* Remember a quality post isnt necessarily a long winded post, using words that make you sound like you swallowed a thesauras doesnt help your cause

..
..EDIT: use the search button, so many redundant threads


True, thank you.


...understand the significance of Pizza day, the 2011 bubble, Cyprus, HODL...


Please understand the significance of spelling HOLD correctly.



Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: margarita_free on April 27, 2018, 02:45:44 PM
Thank you for that post, it is very simple, but, if people will do this steps, they could be good members at this forum!
I read so many questions on simple rules answers, and i really understand, that more, than 70% people first time didn't read rules!
They ask the same questions - how long i will be newbie, how much time and sentences i must put on forum for being member,
and many many another identical.

Wooow, it is amazing useful post, +1 merit from me  ;)


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on April 27, 2018, 03:24:47 PM
....
* Remember a quality post isnt necessarily a long winded post, using words that make you sound like you swallowed a thesauras doesnt help your cause

..
..EDIT: use the search button, so many redundant threads


True, thank you.


...understand the significance of Pizza day, the 2011 bubble, Cyprus, HODL...


Please understand the significance of spelling HOLD correctly.



It is spelt correctly, you failed on the 1st part that you quoted me on, that really isn't too bright is it clever clogs


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: HarryJoett on April 27, 2018, 05:44:50 PM
I start thinking this forum like a place to be a really professional person (with merit system), but I dont really think it's necessary as long as I can get useful informations here. I won't need merit tho. So, here I would just say thank you for sharing


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: cateryy on April 27, 2018, 08:03:28 PM
Nice clickbait OP ;D God of War Marketing


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: hoanghai101296 on April 27, 2018, 09:16:27 PM
I start thinking this forum like a place to be a really professional person (with merit system), but I dont really think it's necessary as long as I can get useful informations here. I won't need merit tho. So, here I would just say thank you for sharing
I like your way of thinking
Not thinking much about merit will make things easier


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: crqn on April 28, 2018, 05:35:38 AM
I get merits easily, sure I know "its easy for you as you have been here ages" ETC ETC.. but for those who actually want to level up and be a part of this community then I will do my best to advise you.

Here is a link to the original thread in Meta. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3182178.0

This will help only a few people here as most will just want the bounty Moniez.. but for those who can think a little bigger, and those of you who are here for the right reasons then.

I am adamant the number one cause of no merits is poor English, this is something you can change if you are struggling to get merits so if you know that this is the limitation then you need to take some steps

* Improve your English language, this isnt just spelling and grammar this includes using words like Sir & Mr when I see those I immediately assume the person is a 3rd world poster
* Spend the time that you currently use posting incoherent rubbish to learn proper Written English, start with youtube there has to be over 3002 different videos about writing the English Language also
   https://www.duolingo.com/course/en/ar/Learn-English-Online was recommended by another poster
* Read a few English books, you can download free Ebooks as a starter, look how sentences are structured common words etc.
* Remember a quality post isnt necessarily a long winded post, using words that make you sound like you swallowed a thesauras doesnt help your cause

Take the above advise and stop trying to level up for 3-6 months you will become a quality poster if you use some more of your free time reading the forum, this doesn't mean bounties, altcoins, speculation all the shit subs.. and only post in a few threads every week, no need to try to max out the activity now, sure you want to keep getting towards the higher numbers but its counter productive when we see high activity and 0 merit. Read technical discussion, read all of the most merited threads, understand the significance of Pizza day, the 2011 bubble, Cyprus, HODL, the fall of all the securities that some of us lost the equivalent of $Millions now.

one other thing, you need to stop these bounties, I know it hurts you now financially, but seeing someone in a low end bounty for $20 just makes me assume they are a 3rd world poster and with a great initiative by BTCforJoe there is an option to help https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3055616.0 That thread is a tremendous Idea so props to OP there

a few more things
Do NOT call Sr Members Sir, Mr or any other shit like that, It is not needed.
READ THE FUCKING RULES, both forum rules and individual board rules.
Don't post in Bitcoin Discussion or Economics and wherever you are do NOT post in megathreads, I guarantee you have nothing new to say.
Humor is good, lots of people get merit for silly one liners if they are funny.

Good luck all you newbies, I hope this helps a few of you. Please do not PM me begging for merits, I will ask DT members to tag you if you do.

EDIT: use the search button, so many redundant threads

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you. This would help me a lot, I actually don't know how to improve or to get a merits. Good Job :D


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on April 28, 2018, 06:15:26 AM
Nice clickbait OP ;D God of War Marketing

not clickbait.. I will be handing out merits to those I feel are deserving.. I just need to see some improvements in posting here


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Steamtyme on April 30, 2018, 10:35:36 PM
Nice clickbait OP ;D God of War Marketing

not clickbait.. I will be handing out merits to those I feel are deserving.. I just need to see some improvements in posting here

I like what you have done it does help people who may want to improve and gives them a place to showcase their ability to learn English. I would point out though that for anyone who doesn't specifically want to improve their English looking to rank up for Sig/Bounty campaigns there is a lot of Merit to be had in the local boards as well.

I will say more power to anyone looking to improve their ability to speak and write a second language. If you have the time try; it will only help you out in life.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: tagposh43d on May 01, 2018, 02:18:56 PM
The reader usually have no patience, make your post crisp and smart and earn the points.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: icroatt on May 01, 2018, 04:10:31 PM
Thank you for all of the tips TMAN. I very quickly figured out the significance of using the search before posting a thread, as it eliminates a ton of redundancy. Definitely a great tip to include for new users!


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: edundayo on May 01, 2018, 05:01:25 PM
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READ THE FUCKING RULES, both forum rules and individual board rules.

EDIT: use the search button, so many redundant threads


As a newbie myself I think the temptation of wanting to move up in status as soon you join, is always very powerful (something many newbie are unable to tame), therefore the effort and the time it takes to read the rules and use the search button, instead being fun becomes an overwhelming tedious task.

If only many of my fellow newbies can take to your advise, and also realise that; anything that will succeed and last long takes effort, time and patience, like the saying "slow and steady wins the race".

Another, crucial things is the mindset.

Many newbie were introduce to this forum by someone/others who have largely corrupt their minds  with idea that BitcoinTalkForum is a money minting machine and once you join you just start minting money, unfortunately many newbie will require a change of perception and will need to relearn.

But, luckily for many newbie who will take the time and effort to learn and grow, we have people like @TMAN, @Jet Cash and many other who are always ready to both guide and support you to go through your days of humble beginning meritoriously.

Thanks for the great advise, they're right on point. I wish every newbie will following your advice.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Ulticon on May 02, 2018, 02:59:10 PM
If the post is good and relatable then you can always learn things and earn merits.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on May 02, 2018, 03:11:07 PM
If the post is good and relatable then you can always learn things and earn merits.

Please do not come in here and post shit like that, its really pointless - you just get put on ignore by merit sources.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Baresh on May 02, 2018, 03:18:03 PM
I get merits easily, sure I know "its easy for you as you have been here ages" ETC ETC.. but for those who actually want to level up and be a part of this community then I will do my best to advise you.

Here is a link to the original thread in Meta. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3182178.0

This will help only a few people here as most will just want the bounty Moniez.. but for those who can think a little bigger, and those of you who are here for the right reasons then.

I am adamant the number one cause of no merits is poor English, this is something you can change if you are struggling to get merits so if you know that this is the limitation then you need to take some steps

* Improve your English language, this isnt just spelling and grammar this includes using words like Sir & Mr when I see those I immediately assume the person is a 3rd world poster
* Spend the time that you currently use posting incoherent rubbish to learn proper Written English, start with youtube there has to be over 3002 different videos about writing the English Language also
   https://www.duolingo.com/course/en/ar/Learn-English-Online was recommended by another poster
* Read a few English books, you can download free Ebooks as a starter, look how sentences are structured common words etc.
* Remember a quality post isnt necessarily a long winded post, using words that make you sound like you swallowed a thesauras doesnt help your cause

Take the above advise and stop trying to level up for 3-6 months you will become a quality poster if you use some more of your free time reading the forum, this doesn't mean bounties, altcoins, speculation all the shit subs.. and only post in a few threads every week, no need to try to max out the activity now, sure you want to keep getting towards the higher numbers but its counter productive when we see high activity and 0 merit. Read technical discussion, read all of the most merited threads, understand the significance of Pizza day, the 2011 bubble, Cyprus, HODL, the fall of all the securities that some of us lost the equivalent of $Millions now.

one other thing, you need to stop these bounties, I know it hurts you now financially, but seeing someone in a low end bounty for $20 just makes me assume they are a 3rd world poster and with a great initiative by BTCforJoe there is an option to help https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3055616.0 That thread is a tremendous Idea so props to OP there

a few more things
Do NOT call Sr Members Sir, Mr or any other shit like that, It is not needed.
READ THE FUCKING RULES, both forum rules and individual board rules.
Don't post in Bitcoin Discussion or Economics and wherever you are do NOT post in megathreads, I guarantee you have nothing new to say.
Humor is good, lots of people get merit for silly one liners if they are funny.

Good luck all you newbies, I hope this helps a few of you. Please do not PM me begging for merits, I will ask DT members to tag you if you do.

EDIT: use the search button, so many redundant threads

Well good for you if you have lots of merits...i didn't say that i dont want to have merits. Everybody want it but as a newbie it's not easy for us to get the merit easily in our time now adays because it depends to the person that who can give merit because of his post which is helpful.you are very lucky because you have that merits before those times that needs ranking according to the post that you posted.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: poptok1 on May 02, 2018, 03:21:53 PM
If the post is good and relatable then you can always learn things and earn merits.
This couldn't be more far from the truth. Why do you think threads like this one are so popular?
I must admit, sometimes I'm simply forgetting to slam a +1 for somebody that deserves it. I go through his words, something is triggering my response and the meriting slips my mind. I presume its a thing for most of us.
However there is a much, much bigger problem with low merit points redistribution. It's that almost nobody is actually reading stuff people say...
Most members just post, in majority they are not interested with conversations or opinions exchange, its all about posts-posts-posts.
Of course the one to blame are signature-campaigns that focus on quantity rather than quality.
I personally was never a member of a campaign that "forces" more than 2 posts per day. I find it spam inducing and in fact, conversation killing.
Some of the people I have met here, are thinking that forum is infested with bots but I think that sig. campaigns are somehow tuning us in to mindless zombie-posters. We need a vaccine  ???
 


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: jd2281 on May 02, 2018, 03:36:08 PM
Hello, TMAN. Thank you for this tip and advice. I have taken it in but somehow along the way, I have not gained any confidence when I am either posting or commenting because it seems like I am still posting rubbishes and junks. I even researched what a quality post should be and made it as one of my threads here but I cannot really fathom its true meaning.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on May 02, 2018, 03:52:00 PM
Well good for you if you have lots of merits...i didn't say that i dont want to have merits. Everybody want it but as a newbie it's not easy for us to get the merit easily in our time now adays because it depends to the person that who can give merit because of his post which is helpful.you are very lucky because you have that merits before those times that needs ranking according to the post that you posted.

What is this shit? go learn English do not pollute my eyes with this crap.

Hello, TMAN. Thank you for this tip and advice. I have taken it in but somehow along the way, I have not gained any confidence when I am either posting or commenting because it seems like I am still posting rubbishes and junks. I even researched what a quality post should be and made it as one of my threads here but I cannot really fathom its true meaning.

Ok - I looked at the 1st page of your posts and I was just blinded by bounty posts - I will not be helping bounty hunters, in my eyes you are the cancer of this forum. You come here with no crypto knowledge and steal from the people who pay for these bounties as you are not adding any value other than spamming shit. Continue earning your $40 or whatever the latest rate is but DO NOT expect to earn merits as well.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: jd2281 on May 02, 2018, 04:44:05 PM
Well good for you if you have lots of merits...i didn't say that i dont want to have merits. Everybody want it but as a newbie it's not easy for us to get the merit easily in our time now adays because it depends to the person that who can give merit because of his post which is helpful.you are very lucky because you have that merits before those times that needs ranking according to the post that you posted.

What is this shit? go learn English do not pollute my eyes with this crap.

Hello, TMAN. Thank you for this tip and advice. I have taken it in but somehow along the way, I have not gained any confidence when I am either posting or commenting because it seems like I am still posting rubbishes and junks. I even researched what a quality post should be and made it as one of my threads here but I cannot really fathom its true meaning.

Ok - I looked at the 1st page of your posts and I was just blinded by bounty posts - I will not be helping bounty hunters, in my eyes you are the cancer of this forum. You come here with no crypto knowledge and steal from the people who pay for these bounties as you are not adding any value other than spamming shit. Continue earning your $40 or whatever the latest rate is but DO NOT expect to earn merits as well.
You are so road, Mr. TMAN. Well, sorry for being ONLY a bounty hunter and for being the CANCER of this forum. I must admit I have very little knowledge regarding cryptos but I am still learning and growing. Hopefully sooner or later, my little earning will be mooning so I will be on the same level as you. I never am expecting for merits, for depends on the person giving them anyways. But I will be hypocrite if I say I do not want them and somehow, hoping to get some.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TheQuin on May 02, 2018, 04:49:58 PM
You are so road, Mr. TMAN.

But is he the M27 or the A3?

Well, sorry for being ONLY a bounty hunter and for being the CANCER of this forum.

Try to be something else then.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: jd2281 on May 02, 2018, 04:53:32 PM
You are so road, Mr. TMAN.

But is he the M27 or the A3?

Well, sorry for being ONLY a bounty hunter and for being the CANCER of this forum.

Try to be something else then.

Thank you for this advice. I, myself, am hoping to be something else too.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on May 02, 2018, 05:02:15 PM
Thank you for this advice. I, myself, am hoping to be something else too.

Then don't moan like a baby when I tell you why you don't get any merits, either be a bounty hunter and earn the pennies or be a part of this forum and in a few years maybe earn $500 a week for your signature.

It's entirely up to you what you want to do.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: jd2281 on May 02, 2018, 09:07:25 PM
Thank you for this advice. I, myself, am hoping to be something else too.

Then don't moan like a baby when I tell you why you don't get any merits, either be a bounty hunter and earn the pennies or be a part of this forum and in a few years maybe earn $500 a week for your signature.

It's entirely up to you what you want to do.
Yes, I am looking forward to earning $500 a week. With that, I am hoping to gain some maturity and improvements within myself. Thank you, Mr. TMAN, You are like a mentor and an educator. You may be a little harsh sometimes, but I rather am grateful to you. I will be taking your advice positively and seek for improvements. I must admit, what you have said is true. I realized now that what made bounty hunters the cancer of this forum is that they, or rather we, are forgetting the very essence of this forum is. We have forgotten that this is still a forum for discussions and information gathering and dissemination, etc. and not just like some machines that gives us cash because we are earning from it.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on May 02, 2018, 09:36:43 PM
Yes, I am looking forward to earning $500 a week. With that, I am hoping to gain some maturity and improvements within myself. Thank you, Mr. TMAN, You are like a mentor and an educator. You may be a little harsh sometimes, but I rather am grateful to you. I will be taking your advice positively and seek for improvements. I must admit, what you have said is true. I realized now that what made bounty hunters the cancer of this forum is that they, or rather we, are forgetting the very essence of this forum is. We have forgotten that this is still a forum for discussions and information gathering and dissemination, etc. and not just like some machines that gives us cash because we are earning from it.

I said maybe earn $500.. its not definite.. And young man you have a long long way to go - for starters the attitude, you say now you want to learn.. so prove it - read up on RSK come back and tell me about it, and why it "should" be a game changer for BTC and what other crypto's is it likely to cause issues for.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: keywordsbadge on May 02, 2018, 09:53:40 PM
There are no merits given just by commenting. The comments must make sense.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on May 02, 2018, 10:02:53 PM
There are no merits given just by commenting. The comments must make sense.

your comments make sense but are of 0 value.. just as bad


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: edundayo on May 02, 2018, 10:59:31 PM
For me, it's simple;
There is a saying that;when you help enough people get what they are looking for, you'll find what you are looking for along the way.

* Be yourself, do your thing and have fun
* Let your mindset and motive be genuinely that of helping people and being another great forum member
* Think longterm, don't be preoccupied with short-time.
* Be friendly, act as if you are in an offline community

I was glad to have come across TMAN' guide, and having had the right mindset; I got 3 merits in my first active week with just about 20+ posts.
The last thing on my mind was merits, but it was a delightful surprise to see those merits, and as you can see I'm still a newbie...lol

My point is; if are a newbie, please drop the ego and listen to the words of advice. Let's join the Hero's to sanitize the forum and the $$ follow eventually and definitely.



There are no merits given just by commenting. The comments must make sense.

What makes a post "highly quality, make sense, helpful, etc" is relative and subjective, and trying to define it will only create unending, never conclusive discussion.




Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: pubudu92 on May 03, 2018, 04:17:30 PM
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I get merits easily, sure I know "its easy for you as you have been here ages" ETC ETC.. but for those who actually want to level up and be a part of this community then I will do my best to advise you.

Here is a link to the original thread in Meta. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3182178.

This will help only a few people here as most will just want the bounty Moniez.. but for those who can think a little bigger, and those of you who are here for the right reasons then.

I am adamant the number one cause of no merits is poor English, this is something you can change if you are struggling to get merits so if you know that this is the limitation then you need to take some steps

* Improve your English language, this isnt just spelling and grammar this includes using words like Sir & Mr when I see those I immediately assume the person is a 3rd world poster
* Spend the time that you currently use posting incoherent rubbish to learn proper Written English, start with youtube there has to be over 3002 different videos about writing the English Language also
   https://www.duolingo.com/course/en/ar/Learn-English-Online was recommended by another poster
* Read a few English books, you can download free Ebooks as a starter, look how sentences are structured common words etc.
* Remember a quality post isnt necessarily a long winded post, using words that make you sound like you swallowed a thesauras doesnt help your cause

Take the above advise and stop trying to level up for 3-6 months you will become a quality poster if you use some more of your free time reading the forum, this doesn't mean bounties, altcoins, speculation all the shit subs.. and only post in a few threads every week, no need to try to max out the activity now, sure you want to keep getting towards the higher numbers but its counter productive when we see high activity and 0 merit. Read technical discussion, read all of the most merited threads, understand the significanc e of Pizza day, the 2011 bubbole, Cyparus, HOD L, the fall of all the securities that some of us lost the equivalent of $Millions now.

one other thing, you need to stop these bounties, I know it hurts you now financially, but seeing someone in a low end bounty for $20 just makes me assume they are a 3rd world poster and with a great initiative by BTCforJoe there is an option to help https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3055616.0 That thread is a tremendous Idea so props to OP there

a few more things
Do NOT call Sr Members Sir, Mr or any other shit like that, It is not needed.
READ THE FUCKING RULES, both forum rules and individual board rules.
Don't post in Bitcoin Discussion or Economics and wherever you are do NOT post in megathreads, I guarantee you have nothing new to say.
Humor is good, lots of people get merit for silly one liners if they are funny.

Good luck all you newbies, I hope this helps a few of you. Please do not PM me begging for merits, I will ask DT members to tag you if you do.

EDIT: use the search button, so many redundant threads


Thanks for sharing your valuable thoughts with us. These experience are really a great help for newbies to build good bitcointalk profile. Actually, get merits in BTT profile is a difficult task. Your valuable tips are very important. Please give us new thoughts every day.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Ayuluv2001 on May 03, 2018, 04:58:43 PM
For me, it's simple;
There is a saying that;when you help enough people get what they are looking for, you'll find what you are looking for along the way.

* Be yourself, do your thing and have fun
* Let your mindset and motive be genuinely that of helping people and being another great forum member
* Think longterm, don't be preoccupied with short-time.
* Be friendly, act as if you are in an offline community

I was glad to have come across TMAN' guide, and having had the right mindset; I got 3 merits in my first active week with just about 20+ posts.
The last thing on my mind was merits, but it was a delightful surprise to see those merits, and as you can see I'm still a newbie...lol

My point is; if are a newbie, please drop the ego and listen to the words of advice. Let's join the Hero's to sanitize the forum and the $$ follow eventually and definitely.



There are no merits given just by commenting. The comments must make sense.

What makes a post "highly quality, make sense, helpful, etc" is relative and subjective, and trying to define it will only create unending, never conclusive discussion.




Yes I agree!

Basically focus on helping people sincerely WITHOUT expecting rewards. In that case even there is no merits, you will not feel disappointed. And if there is - Surprise!

People do love surprises especially for ladies


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: bill gator on May 03, 2018, 06:24:52 PM
Don't post in Bitcoin Discussion or Economics

I'm wondering if this is universal advice or if you are suggesting this specifically to lower ranking members seeking to earn merit as the title suggests. Can you please clarify this for me? Bitcoin Discussion and Economics are some of my favorite boards, even if they're flooded with spam that I'm forced to avoid.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on May 03, 2018, 06:31:13 PM
Don't post in Bitcoin Discussion or Economics

I'm wondering if this is universal advice or if you are suggesting this specifically to lower ranking members seeking to earn merit as the title suggests. Can you please clarify this for me? Bitcoin Discussion and Economics are some of my favorite boards, even if they're flooded with spam that I'm forced to avoid.

I would love to read them bud, but the Time/Effort=rewards do not add up.. I just cannot stand all that spammy shit.. Bitcoin great for me, my family best, when moon, BITCOIN FEED MY FAMILY...all that stuff just hurts my eyes bud, I am pretty sure no merit sources could go through 90% of the threads there.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: bill gator on May 03, 2018, 06:41:37 PM
This helps me understand your position a bit better. I personally hand out a decent amount of my sMerit in those boards, but I can certainly understand where you're coming from. It is really rare that I bump into high ranking members in these section that aren't spammers. I spend hours searching for good threads to post in, and usually it is just me giving a tip to a beginner anyways. The best threads from these boards that I have ever found are those that have been submitted to me within my "Review thread". I agree, it's probably a waste of time, but old habits die hard and I find gems occasionally. That stuff hurts my eyes too, but the mods have been kicking ass lately, so hopefully it doesn't remain like this for much longer.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on May 03, 2018, 06:53:22 PM
This helps me understand your position a bit better. I personally hand out a decent amount of my sMerit in those boards, but I can certainly understand where you're coming from. It is really rare that I bump into high ranking members in these section that aren't spammers. I spend hours searching for good threads to post in, and usually it is just me giving a tip to a beginner anyways. The best threads from these boards that I have ever found are those that have been submitted to me within my "Review thread". I agree, it's probably a waste of time, but old habits die hard and I find gems occasionally. That stuff hurts my eyes too, but the mods have been kicking ass lately, so hopefully it doesn't remain like this for much longer.

if it changes I will 100% head there for a look again fella, its hard to hand out merits  although I am making an effort to reduce the merits I hand out in meta.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: HCP on May 04, 2018, 07:50:11 AM
I would love to read them bud, but the Time/Effort=rewards do not add up.. I just cannot stand all that spammy shit.. Bitcoin great for me, my family best, when moon, BITCOIN FEED MY FAMILY...all that stuff just hurts my eyes bud, I am pretty sure no merit sources could go through 90% of the threads there.
if it changes I will 100% head there for a look again fella, its hard to hand out merits  although I am making an effort to reduce the merits I hand out in meta.
Amen to that... I even started stalking bill gator's "sMerit review" thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2819141.0), hoping to find some merit worthy posts from outside of my usual subboards... Unfortunately, probably less than 5% of the posts that people put up for review in that thread should ever have been written... and of that 5%, maybe 5% of those deserve merit (in my opinion). :-\

It's amazing what people think they might get merits for... I'm not sure if it is just sheer desperation to get those first 10 merits to get out of Jr. Member or what? ??? But after repeatedly telling people to stop posting in mega-threads... every other submission is post#324823642 in a 50+ page "Is bitcoin even real?" type thread ::)


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Jet Cash on May 04, 2018, 08:57:48 AM
It's amazing what people think they might get merits for... I'm not sure if it is just sheer desperation to get those first 10 merits to get out of Jr. Member or what? ??? But after repeatedly telling people to stop posting in mega-threads... every other submission is post#324823642 in a 50+ page "Is bitcoin even real?" type thread ::)

It does take a lot of time to hunt for decent posts. At one stage, I was even considering giving up the hunt, and giving all my smerits to TMAN. :) However, I decided that it would be better for the forum if I tried to help people to improve their English. This is why I started the Fit to Talk English help project (https://FittoTalk.com/english-talk/). I'm a bit disappointed by the fact that very few members are interested in this, despite the fact that lack of English skills seems to be considered as the primary reason for not being awarded merits. I'm starting to think that the main reason for the lack of interest is the fact that you can't spam your signature, and you can't earn any merits over there.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Dingdongjl on May 04, 2018, 11:44:25 AM
A big thanks to your suggestion, you give us idea's and more knowledge on how we can get merits at the same time you inspire newbies to do their best to rank up in this forum.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: celtic99 on May 04, 2018, 01:11:59 PM
need the rank up dawg, these hookers,rims, and blow aint gonna pay for themselves.  We need that bounty moneyz.



https://i.imgur.com/gxwJkvJ.jpg


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: sham100899 on May 04, 2018, 01:26:10 PM
To become a meritable user there's only one thing to consider and that is the "Quality Post", Quality Post means constructive post, also means good in english skill.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Cold_Zero on May 04, 2018, 02:20:24 PM
I think it was not fair for newbie. You can check some member got merit (Just go to profile and click Merit system). Not all of them received from another person. They got it from older system which give for free.
My friend rank Sr.Member and got 250 merit. He does not do anything, he just a old member ( Register from long time ago). You know TMAN too, he got lots of merit, but half of them are added by the system.

If you was register from 1 or 2 years ago, you will got fucking free merit.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TheQuin on May 04, 2018, 02:43:23 PM
You know TMAN too, he got lots of merit, but half of them are added by the system.

Yeah and another 584 of them he earned which would still make him a Hero Member. Maybe if you stopped whining like a child about how unfair life is and made a valuable contribution to the forum like TMAN does you wouldn't still be stuck on zero.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: mybloomingpath on May 04, 2018, 08:16:27 PM
I absolutely agree that in order to get some merits people should work and thinking over impovement not only o themselves and their ranks in order to participate in better campaigns, but also should help the community. Give a helping hand to newbies, give a hint or advise, share your knowledge and soon merits will be received.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: HCP on May 05, 2018, 01:59:08 AM
If you was register from 1 or 2 years ago, you will got fucking free merit.
So older members didn't deserve any recognition?

Unfortunately, what has also happened is that a lot of the older spammers/shitposters got given a bunch of free merit which has subsequently been given to either their alt accounts or "sold" to other new spam/shitposting accounts ::)

Thankfully, this free merit is limited... So this situation will eventually end and we'll be down to merit coming from merit sources only.

The sooner all the scam ICOs and related "bounties" disappear, the better as far as I'm concerned. Hopefully then all the "will shitpost for pennies" bounty hunters will disappear with them...  >:(


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Cold_Zero on May 05, 2018, 03:59:37 AM
You know TMAN too, he got lots of merit, but half of them are added by the system.

Yeah and another 584 of them he earned which would still make him a Hero Member. Maybe if you stopped whining like a child about how unfair life is and made a valuable contribution to the forum like TMAN does you wouldn't still be stuck on zero.


 I dont say TMAN is not good. He does everything well.  I just say many many old member did not anything, just a spammer, not good people like TMAN, they still become Sr Member, Hero Member....You know have too much account like that. That i wanna say.

Acttualy, I do not contribute anything to the forum, I just join for bounty, so I dont compain anymore.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: dxbcoin on May 05, 2018, 07:59:11 PM
Good speech, this hurts to be honest. But that's what motivate me to try harder to learn how to use English better and learn more about crypto at the same time.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: anatolykarpov on May 05, 2018, 08:05:34 PM
Wow too much information here, I have learned too many from those guys and need to read more.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: CoinsAreMyLife on May 05, 2018, 09:57:47 PM
Not when lambo, or when moon.

But when merit, sir?


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on May 06, 2018, 07:19:24 AM
Not when lambo, or when moon.

But when merit, sir?

Some of us already have lambo and timeshares on the moon, now we need to understand what the fuck people are posting


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: BQ on May 06, 2018, 05:37:19 PM
If you was register from 1 or 2 years ago, you will got fucking free merit.
So older members didn't deserve any recognition?

Unfortunately, what has also happened is that a lot of the older spammers/shitposters got given a bunch of free merit which has subsequently been given to either their alt accounts or "sold" to other new spam/shitposting accounts ::)

Thankfully, this free merit is limited... So this situation will eventually end and we'll be down to merit coming from merit sources only.

The sooner all the scam ICOs and related "bounties" disappear, the better as far as I'm concerned. Hopefully then all the "will shitpost for pennies" bounty hunters will disappear with them...  >:(

from what I noticed, the whole Altcoin Discussion section seems to only consist of people bumping old threads with a random reply,
although I'm guilty of doing the same if the topic is interesting! But then I realised that noone ever really responds, so where could one go?
I tried making a thread in Altcoin Discussions but it disappears right away due to the spam, and it seems like most people aren't interested in contributing to the discussion itself  ;D
Sure I did join initially for bounties aswell but there are very many knowledgeable people here I noticed, so now I like to discuss regular topics instead.

I started posting in Bitcoin Discussion and so far it seems like the quality of content is higher there, so if anyone is looking for interesting discussions I suggest go there :D


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: cryptoMihail on May 06, 2018, 06:04:11 PM
I consider Jennifer’s blog one of the best English grammar sources. During all these years, she has written lot of materials and put many downloadable lessons on her blog.
It’s a super useful website for both beginners and advanced learners.  https://englishgrammar.org (https://englishgrammar.org)


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Komorhan on May 06, 2018, 09:06:47 PM
Everyone who has been a member six months ago is hero and legendary. you think these guys created bitcoin. bloody imperialism


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: THEsnowdonmelody7 on May 06, 2018, 11:00:33 PM
People who are expecting to learn English should really take some help.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on May 08, 2018, 06:38:53 AM
Everyone who has been a member six months ago is hero and legendary. you think these guys created bitcoin. bloody imperialism

Wrong, if you register today and there is no merit system, you gonna need at least 2 years (if you are lucky) to become legendary based on your activity. That means that you have to be active at least once per two weeks for those 2 years.The legendary rank up has no fix activity required but its between 775 and 1030 so you might need an extra half a year to be sure. 
3 years doesn't make you 100% established but you have acquired some knowledge during this time if you are not only a spamming bounty zombie, of course.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Heidim on May 08, 2018, 08:39:57 AM
https://i.imgur.com/aKKYAz2.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/JvBMmsE.jpg


Just for fun ;D


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: ulages on May 08, 2018, 04:44:25 PM
i mean are you threatening us? Your topic says 'want some?" and here you are saying that dont PM me for merits?


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Jet Cash on May 08, 2018, 07:13:25 PM
i mean are you threatening us? Your topic says 'want some?" and here you are saying that dont PM me for merits?

He explains how to get them without begging for them. Beggars are a real nuisance, especially the ones who won't read or work for their rewards.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: soccer_crowds on May 09, 2018, 10:38:00 AM
....
* Remember a quality post isnt necessarily a long winded post, using words that make you sound like you swallowed a thesauras doesnt help your cause

..
..EDIT: use the search button, so many redundant threads


True, thank you.


...understand the significance of Pizza day, the 2011 bubble, Cyprus, HODL...


Please understand the significance of spelling HOLD correctly.



It is spelt correctly, you failed on the 1st part that you quoted me on, that really isn't too bright is it clever clogs


...you failed on the 1st part...

True, thank you.

Are you saying I failed by giving you a honest compliment?


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TheQuin on May 09, 2018, 10:43:56 AM
Are you saying I failed by giving you a honest compliment?

No, he's saying you failed to search for HODL and find out its history before posting.
 


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Steamtyme on May 09, 2018, 11:26:01 AM

No, he's saying you failed to search for HODL and find out its history before posting.
 

I will say that was one of the funnest facts/history lessons I've had on this forum.

Oh sweet sweet alcohol.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: bhana693 on May 09, 2018, 12:11:50 PM
I get it now. You are sharing your knowledge on how to acquire merits by learning first then practice what you learn. It's really a mind opening for me as a newbie. I will start to study in here, slowly but surely.Good quality is the better than quantity without good quality.
 


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: anushkasachith888 on May 09, 2018, 10:35:40 PM
This is a good site to non-native speakers to practice. http://englishbaby.com/


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Daboy_Lyle on May 10, 2018, 02:04:26 AM
For those who actually want to level up and be a part of this community then I will do my best to advise you.
I am a WITNESS of what he have done with me. As you can see my latest post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1781008;sa=showPosts), I'm on my way to be good quality poster. He gave us challenges to manipulate our knowledge. This topic was given by him The Silk Road seized, and the downfall of Mt.Gox (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3490334.0). I'm luckily to have a coach here to be a good poster. TMAN was my big time merit sender since when I join the forum and has 34 merit now because of his advices. 34 to 100 I think I can do this with the advices of TMAN. 
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Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: PROTO_Token on May 10, 2018, 02:31:23 AM
.... Read technical discussion, read all of the most merited threads, understand the significance of Pizza day, the 2011 bubble, Cyprus, HODL, the fall of all the securities that some of us lost the equivalent of $Millions now.
....

Please, understand the significance of HOLD, spelled properly.

Ok I'll give you a chance as you are new, I will only say that I am right and you are wrong. Post the correct thread here and I'll give you a merit once you apologise.

LOL ... I'm a newbie on this site but into crypto since 2011 and this made me crack-up TMAN. TMAN is correct.

It's HODL ... pronounced "Hod" + "el" ... it's an expression for holding your cryptocurrency or not selling.

The story behind it is someone was posting better "hold" but misspelled  "HODL"  and it to off through the community as a slang term meaning "HOLD".


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: snapee11 on May 10, 2018, 09:00:38 AM
i mean are you threatening us? Your topic says 'want some?" and here you are saying that dont PM me for merits?

He explains how to get them without begging for them. Beggars are a real nuisance, especially the ones who won't read or work for their rewards.
Yeah! Farming is better than begging.
TMAN's guide is a best one for noobs like me. I really appreciate that one. As of now I am trying to be better in English and avoiding shitposting hahaha. Thanks TMAN


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: alnogina on May 10, 2018, 09:10:21 AM
Well, this topic is much better than one. where someone asked to find empty bitcoin blocks from the beginning :) Thanks for a good guide!


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: sham100899 on May 10, 2018, 09:39:40 AM
My mother tongue is not english, so I have difficulties on expressing myself in english when posting something. Thank you for this post TMAN. You inspire me learn and practice more english to become productive in this forum and not just shitposting.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on May 10, 2018, 10:07:52 AM
Well, this topic is much better than one. where someone asked to find empty bitcoin blocks from the beginning :) Thanks for a good guide!

My mother tongue is not english, so I have difficulties on expressing myself in english when posting something. Thank you for this post TMAN. You inspire me learn and practice more english to become productive in this forum and not just shitposting.

While I appreciate the kind words, giving me virtual blowjobs wont get you merit. What you need to do is get out of this thread and action what I have suggested elsewhere.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: sham100899 on May 10, 2018, 12:14:45 PM
Well, this topic is much better than one. where someone asked to find empty bitcoin blocks from the beginning :) Thanks for a good guide!

My mother tongue is not english, so I have difficulties on expressing myself in english when posting something. Thank you for this post TMAN. You inspire me learn and practice more english to become productive in this forum and not just shitposting.

While I appreciate the kind words, giving me virtual blowjobs wont get you merit. What you need to do is get out of this thread and action what I have suggested elsewhere.

Action speaks louder than word, that is what I did. These 7 merits that I got is the result of your advices.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: bill gator on May 10, 2018, 08:21:35 PM
I just might write up an ebook on how to become a better Bitcointalk forum user, and with any luck TMAN will write the foreword. There's a lot of good information in your OP, and throughout the thread, but I would love to add much more onto the subject. It's much tougher than speaking fluent English, in fact quite a good chunk of merit gets moved around in local boards; increasingly more each day.

He explains how to get them without begging for them. Beggars are a real nuisance, especially the ones who won't read or work for their rewards.

Was that a stab at digaran? I can't help but feel like it was.  ;)

i mean are you threatening us? Your topic says 'want some?" and here you are saying that dont PM me for merits?

I don't think you understand the definition of "threatening". Asking someone if they want some of what you have is not a threat, unless they are holding a weapon to you or have a clenched fist. The man is catching fish in the river, filling his boat and asking you if you are interested in the knowledge that has made his fishing trip so profitable. The fact that you believe TMAN offering you information to improve your position is a threat is indicative that you are not fit for the lessons being attempted.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Jet Cash on May 10, 2018, 09:16:58 PM
Was that a stab at digaran? I can't help but feel like it was.  ;)


I get the impression that I am one of the few members here who has no knowledge of digaran's posting. I think I read one of his posts, and I decided he was in a different world, and I haven't read any of them since. In fact I don't seem to read any of the threads in which he posts, so we don't seem to cross paths.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: bill gator on May 11, 2018, 12:15:13 AM
There's a first time for everything. I was honestly expecting you to mention that he was already on your famous ignore list. I hear you've got quite the impressive stack building up. I never crossed paths with them, until one day I did. At first it was light-hearted, entertaining and honestly pretty pleasant. They're an extremely volatile individual, so as expected it soured and now there seems to be no more love.

At any rate, I imagine it would be hard for members to follow in your footsteps, TMAN. If they are seeking to become better members that accumulate merit without giving it any consideration, then I believe replicating your behaviors would be the wrong thing for them. You're quite the individual, and you serve a unique purpose. We can't all be like you, and I know that's not what you're suggesting these newbies do. I'm just warning these newbies that they cannot simply mimic your personality, being straightforward, harsh and to the point hoping that it will be their path. Pretty soon they'll be plagiarizing your posts, it always seems to happen once you start trying to provide assistance to the lower ranking members for some reason.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Ri Polok on May 11, 2018, 12:47:41 AM
Thank you for your great advice, always try to be a good member in this forum and obey the forum rules and also do some homework for improve my English proficiency.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TheHas on May 11, 2018, 02:05:26 AM
Also post outside altcoin threads. I know meta threads don't usually count for the 'post count' needed for many bounty campaigns, but there isn't much merit flowing in altcoin forums - probably due to all the spam threads.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: yased on May 11, 2018, 03:57:45 AM
These are the tools that will help newbie improve their English:
- https://www.duolingo.com/
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juKd26qkNAw
I am still improving my English every day by this way


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: soccer_crowds on May 12, 2018, 02:04:02 PM
Are you saying I failed by giving you a honest compliment?

No, he's saying you failed to search for HODL and find out its history before posting.
 

Yes: Learn from history, you might be surprised what you find.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: nakamura12 on May 12, 2018, 06:02:34 PM
OP, Why is proper English a requirement for Merit? I have seen 1000s of posts on this forum with proper English, but it adds little to the discussion. I give merit for constructive posts that adds value to the discussions. You can write a Wall of Text, with proper English and it still adds no value.

The English language requirement for some sections on this forum is acceptable, because it is a universal and popular language.  Out of the world's approximately 7.5 billion inhabitants, 1.5 billion speak English — that's 20% of the Earth's population. However, most of those people aren't native English speakers. About 360 million people speak English as their first language.

http://www.stgeorges.co.uk/blog/learn-english/how-many-people-in-the-world-speak-english

So if 80% of the rest of the world speak other languages, should we exclude them from our main Bitcoin discussions?

Also the use of "3rd world poster" as a derogatory labelling of non-English posters are simply wrong. Would you say, Italian and German people are "3rd world posters", because they do not use English as their first language?   :(
@Kakmakr
Base on what I observe in bitcointalk, ENGLISH is the main language of all board in bitcointalk except the local boards of course. Base on my opinion LOCAL BOARDS are for those people having trouble explaining in english. Even me, my country language is not english so it is hard for me to explain well in english. When I post in bitcointalk I ask for help from my sister and at least i'm trying to contribute in bitcointalk for better future even though i'm stuck at being shitposter at the moment.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: abanansah on May 12, 2018, 06:38:24 PM
I disagree with most things you said. You want to say if we post only quality English we will get merit? No. Because I do post quality English but no onw merit me. Are you saying also if one be polite for calling somebody sir will prevent him from getting merit ? another NO.  For a record, listen. A lot of  Senior members to even Hero members like even you got the opportunity to be rank up all because you have be here long, and I bet you ,if most senior members were subjected to merit system in those days, they wouldn't be at where they are because majority post SHIT.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: anatolykarpov on May 12, 2018, 08:49:09 PM
These are nice ideas, wisely prepared. I am trying to improve myself to be a better crypto guy. And merit will come later for sure.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: cute nmp on May 12, 2018, 09:46:07 PM
Nice ideas.i will try to see whether i will be able to secure merits or not such a useful hint especially for members new to the forum
who are interested in getting merits and higher ranks.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: birzh0 on May 13, 2018, 06:35:11 AM
English needed just to understand topics (as i see most posters are not so good in writing english, but has merits).
and as english population of BTT is the most numbered - than the chance to get merits is more... ;)


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: sort_cirkit on May 13, 2018, 11:36:43 AM
It's all hoped. As it helps to promote rank, so much so it is very important for those who take signature. The more Merit we have, the person is the same as the high quality.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: edundayo on May 14, 2018, 01:25:41 PM
I disagree with most things you said. You want to say if we post only quality English we will get merit? No. Because I do post quality English but no onw merit me.

I think you missed the point, the forum is all about discussion which is communication; you'll not be communicating if other receivers can't make a meaning of what you are saying. Ordinarily, you will usually be merited by people who can make a meaning of whatever you posted. And since the language for the general (non-local) BTT boards is English, it should follow (as expected) that most people in the general language boards are English speakers, and can only fully make a meaning of what you're saying when the English is well conducted (quality English, in TMAN words). It might not guarantee you getting merits but definitely increase the chances, which I believe should be the target of anyone hoping to receive merits.

but no onw merit me.

For instance; I know the above is only a typo, but on a closer look, it doesn't take away the fact that, the simple 'e' letter typo can make the statement confusing to someone; who will have to guess the point you are trying to make.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Flash Cunt on May 14, 2018, 01:46:58 PM
Merits are like orgasms. If you are desperate for one it will elude you, and you'll make yourself sore chasing it. If you are on the path to one, then enjoy the jouney, and the experience will be so much better. If you don't achieve it, then change your partner or your technique.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Flame Dragon King on May 14, 2018, 03:12:33 PM
Is it the good structure of the sentence or the quality of the post that help the community? I definitely agree to you, but I think we should be more focus on the quality and the meaning of the post. Thanks for further advice in this thread, and also the for teaching this newbie a lesson https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3376729.msg35423204#msg35423204 https://i.imgur.com/tKFIl72.png


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: sadpotato on May 14, 2018, 03:22:16 PM

a few more things
Do NOT call Sr Members Sir, Mr or any other shit like that, It is not needed.
READ THE FUCKING RULES, both forum rules and individual board rules.
Don't post in Bitcoin Discussion or Economics and wherever you are do NOT post in megathreads, I guarantee you have nothing new to say.
Humor is good, lots of people get merit for silly one liners if they are funny.


It is funny that I thought those who are Senior Members and up are experts in bitcoin. That is somehow true, but these people are still normal people that studied well in bitcoin. Found out that one of my classmates reached higher rank.

That was unexpected though. Now I understand that young or old, female or male, you can know bitcoin well.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: mahimonliner on May 15, 2018, 05:32:16 AM
Yes I do and my fist step is to improve my English writing skill.

Found out that one of my classmates reached higher rank.

That was unexpected though. Now I understand that young or old, female or male, you can know bitcoin well.
Lucky him over you  ;D


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: snapee11 on May 15, 2018, 05:49:52 AM
These merits are driving the whole forum more civilized I believe without these the forum will be flooded with shitty posts. As I read the guide of you. I really learned alot and I immediately tried to make an  informative post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3818185.0) perhaps you might want to check it.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Ellie2316 on May 15, 2018, 06:49:40 AM
I’ll get back to this thread when I’m ready and deserving for this merit points. Thanks for inspiring others and helping them to learn more about bitcoin and this merit system.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: mu_enrico on May 16, 2018, 12:12:40 AM
I disagree with most things you said. You want to say if we post only quality English we will get merit? No. Because I do post quality English but no one merit me. Are you saying also if one be polite for calling somebody sir will prevent him from getting merit ? another NO.

I've just fix the typo, it's not a valid argument if you guys bring up this minor issue.

For a record, listen. A lot of  Senior members to even Hero members like even you got the opportunity to be rank up all because you have be here long, and I bet you ,if most senior members were subjected to merit system in those days, they wouldn't be at where they are because majority post SHIT.

This is also true, but it's their privilege of being early adopters. It's like saying the bitcoin HODL-er wouldn't be at where they are because majority cannot afford BTC price now or cannot mine with PC anymore. It's just how real world works, cmon man!

Merit is not really important, guys. If you wanna get some pennies from bounty campaign, you might be better off doing other than signature campaign. Do not put too much pressure on yourself. TMAN's guide essentially is the "Posting 101" but whether you will get merit or not, it's still mystery that can only be solved when stars aligned.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: venky15921 on May 17, 2018, 04:32:38 AM

It is funny that I thought those who are Senior Members and up are experts in bitcoin. That is somehow true, but these people are still normal people that studied well in bitcoin. Found out that one of my classmates reached higher rank.

That was unexpected though. Now I understand that young or old, female or male, you can know bitcoin well.

Yes anyone can understand bitcoin well only if they are interested in it . Just go through some of the best articles on bitcoin in this site and even you will get to know about bitcoin .


Title: Re: Join Fit to Talk to practice your English.
Post by: samarnaaz on May 17, 2018, 07:02:10 AM
Don't forget that if you want to practice your English without being accused of polluting the boards, you can join Fit to Talk English (https://fittotalk.com/english-talk/index.php), and you'll get some helpful comments about your posts. It's for Bitcoin Talk members only, and you will need to have made at least 5 posts in the forum.
Thank you jat cash, i hope i will get it and i will improve my English as soon as possible..


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: acmakc12 on May 19, 2018, 01:00:58 AM
You are really right, people like me do not belong to the forum, I understand it, but I'm trying to develop in this direction. I understand perfectly that if I have 100 merit, I will not make mountains of money, and I also understand that to this figure I am far away, and I need to raise the level of my posts, and English for a couple of bars above. But at the moment, for me it's just a pleasant fact that I either provided some help or wrote something interesting. I want to be equal to people who make high-quality content, but in the future, to surpass them  ;)


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: wiser on May 19, 2018, 05:20:35 AM
This is a great thread, especially the first few pages. Some of TMAN's post had me laughing pretty hard.

I try to be conscientious about awarding merit (for as long as I have it) to good quality posts, especially those composed by newbies, but I face a similar struggle in that so many of the posts I come across are problematic. Either I can't understand them or they truly add nothing to the discussion.

Are they still taking applications for merit sources? I tried to apply as instructed in the Meta section but I haven't received any kind of response indicating that my application has even been seen yet.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Jet Cash on May 19, 2018, 05:59:11 AM

I try to be conscientious about awarding merit (for as long as I have it) to good quality posts, especially those composed by newbies, but I face a similar struggle in that so many of the posts I come across are problematic. Either I can't understand them or they truly add nothing to the discussion.


If you want to award merit responsibly, it is almost a full time job, and you end up reporting more posts, and ignoring more members, than you award with merits.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: CryptAssist on May 19, 2018, 06:41:14 AM
I will have to say that as a new member, I find it is kind of a popularity club. "Senior" members don't want to hand out candy to newbies even if the post is merit-worthy. I English is great and my topics are decent. No one would dare give me a merit this early. It's just not happening I'm afraid.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Tpq01349 on May 19, 2018, 07:01:16 AM
It seems it's more difficult to earn merits for non-english speaker members. The grammar thing is the most difficult thing to learn. It will need a lot of learning to earn merit. I remembered a local saying, "learning is the key to success". By the way, thanks for the tips.  ;)


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: theyoungmillionaire on May 19, 2018, 07:03:58 AM
I English is great and my topics are decent.
Hi, CryptAssist,

Welcome in!

It’s not just how great your English is, but the way you contribute to our bitcointalk community. Members need to understand your idea, beliefs, and viewpoints on a particular discussion you joined in. This forum is not a popularity club; if it is the basis then I won’t have my merits, because I am a newbie just like you. I do not want to talk about “how to get merit(s)”; I will let you take care of that; just do not pressure yourself. Relax.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Annapelova on May 19, 2018, 07:42:28 AM
You are right about most things... but I disagree about the bounties. It's not $20, some people already make a good living with it – both managers and bounty hunters, and they are not necessarily from the third world. For me, this is beyond fascinating. And even if they are from the third world... isn't this what crypto is all about? Inclusion, decentralization, liberty. I don't want to get political about it, although it's an interesting discussion. Everyone has to start from somewhere – some made millions with bitcoin while others are happy to get a few free bucks, just because they can. It's just a different point of view.

Sure, there are a lot of people who spam and flood the forum as they are here for the breadcrumbs and yet it is still amazing to observe this process. Don't worry, natural selection will do its job. Remember YouTube in the 90s? Back then, no one believed you can use the Internet to make money while very few contrarians made millions.

My prediction is that in 5-6 years from now, bounties and crypto will take working online to a whole new level. There will be bounty millionaires as there are YouTube millionaires. I bet 1 BTC on it  ;D

Maybe I should write a detailed post to explain my point of view as I feel very passionate about this topic, beyond the financial aspect of it. 


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: tbct_mt2 on May 19, 2018, 07:46:52 AM
Nice recommendations, TMAN.

I am not sure whether readers of the topic have already known about my recent topic which contains links to books on English vocabulary and grammar in use, so I simply give you link to my topic as small contribution to help non-native English users in the forum improving their post quality, at least in terms of English usage.
Collections for someone who would like to improve English skills (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3864751.msg37447483#msg37447483).
 Guideline on posting images - with size adjustments, hyperlinks (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3974517.msg37748469#msg37748469)
Tips for newbies, who want to avoid over-quoting  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3749076.msg37016589#msg37016589)
I think it is time to spread link to my topics out for newbies to change their ways when posting in the forum.

For someone, who have already known about it, just skip my thread.
Hope it helps!


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: wiser on May 19, 2018, 02:38:05 PM

I try to be conscientious about awarding merit (for as long as I have it) to good quality posts, especially those composed by newbies, but I face a similar struggle in that so many of the posts I come across are problematic. Either I can't understand them or they truly add nothing to the discussion.


If you want to award merit responsibly, it is almost a full time job, and you end up reporting more posts, and ignoring more members, than you award with merits.

Thanks for the tip. Not sure I could take on yet another full time job. I think I have to let the good merit worthy posts find me, as in I encounter them organically, as opposed to going out looking for them. I've never reported any posts, though I have used the ignore button. Does reporting spam posts accomplish anything? Honest question. What happens next when a bad post gets reported?

I've been involved in this forum for over five years but I haven't taken much interest in the dynamics of the forum itself until recently.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: tbct_mt2 on May 19, 2018, 02:43:34 PM
So, let's simply call it as one of the most magical impacts of merit system, in particular on such experienced Ledgendary like you, wiser.
I've been involved in this forum for over five years but I haven't taken much interest in the dynamics of the forum itself until recently.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: wiser on May 19, 2018, 04:59:26 PM
So, let's simply call it as one of the most magical impacts of merit system, in particular on such experienced Ledgendary like you, wiser.
I've been involved in this forum for over five years but I haven't taken much interest in the dynamics of the forum itself until recently.

Sure. LOL! From what I can tell, the merit system seems to be working beautifully.

I have a question: Should I be reporting newbie posts that keep asking the same questions that have already been addressed in the "newbies, read first before posting" thread?"

A particular favorite question is "how do I get merits?" It would seem that those posts would fall under the redundant post ban rule.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Jet Cash on May 19, 2018, 05:19:16 PM
I have a question: Should I be reporting newbie posts that keep asking the same questions that have already been addressed in the "newbies, read first before posting" thread?"

A particular favorite question is "how do I get merits?" It would seem that those posts would fall under the redundant post ban rule.

I just skip over those posts, and leave it to somebody else to decide if they should be kept.

I report the foreign langage posts in an all English thread. Also, I report the post repeaters. The other ones that I find fairly frequently are the plagiarism ones. If a post looks to be out of character, ie. it seems to be too good, then I check it for plagiarism. One of the triggers for this is a post count in the hundreds, but without any merit awards. I wish posters would realise tht posting large numbers of low value posts, actually damages their chances of getting merit if they do happen to make a decent post.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: wiser on May 19, 2018, 06:47:04 PM
I have a question: Should I be reporting newbie posts that keep asking the same questions that have already been addressed in the "newbies, read first before posting" thread?"

A particular favorite question is "how do I get merits?" It would seem that those posts would fall under the redundant post ban rule.

I just skip over those posts, and leave it to somebody else to decide if they should be kept.

I report the foreign langage posts in an all English thread. Also, I report the post repeaters. The other ones that I find fairly frequently are the plagiarism ones. If a post looks to be out of character, ie. it seems to be too good, then I check it for plagiarism. One of the triggers for this is a post count in the hundreds, but without any merit awards. I wish posters would realise tht posting large numbers of low value posts, actually damages their chances of getting merit if they do happen to make a decent post.

Have you ever followed up on posts you've reported? What happens to them, to the user?

As for the endlessly repeated questions in the beginners and help section, does anyone really do anything about them? It would be nice to have that section cleaned up so it's full of truly valuable resources for newbies.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Jet Cash on May 19, 2018, 07:07:37 PM
I don't bother to follow up, and I got the hump because my accuracy rate dropped to 97%. Of course, I think it should be 100%, or I wouldn't have reported the post. :)

With regards to the repetitive rubbish, I think that should be sorted by restricting new members to a few boards. That would solve a lot of the problems.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Dhanems on May 19, 2018, 09:01:43 PM
Thank you so much for this informative tips😉I got a tip from you yes,I agree that poor English is the cause of no merits..and honestly I speaking hard in English😁but I tried😉


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: tnguye01 on May 19, 2018, 10:09:39 PM
Thanks.  This is very helpful!


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: petyang12 on May 19, 2018, 10:18:58 PM
I want to have a merit for the reasons that is trusted and giving a helpful idea and good opinion to helping one project oor other purposes im jr.member now waiting who willing to give free merits i hope that let everyone be good to others.
Seriously? Did you read the post that begging merit is a BIG NO? Bitcointalk is not for beggars who will only ask what they want, you have to work for it and also we're here to learn and share tips/guidines and knowlodge about crypto. Don't think merit as a barrier that will stop you from achieving your goals.

I am new to to Bitcointalk forum some of my friends suggested me if you want to learn more about Bitcointalk forum then go to the meta section you will learn very useful things. Than I found this post, this post is very useful for me as I want to improve my English. This post shows direction for how to improve English verbal and written which is useful in this forum but also in real life. I will surely follow this post direction and improve my English.
If you want to learn ENGLISH then you should open the link @TMAN provided in this thread and also there are lots of english tutorial in youtube, if you don't have much time for english tutorial then ask for someone with english skills.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TheQuin on May 20, 2018, 09:50:29 AM
Have you ever followed up on posts you've reported? What happens to them, to the user?

That is easy to do now. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=reportlist;mine

So if you try reporting a few of those repetitive posts you'll see what happens to them.

You can also look at https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php to see post deletions and user bans.

I don't bother to follow up, and I got the hump because my accuracy rate dropped to 97%. Of course, I think it should be 100%, or I wouldn't have reported the post. :)

It's really nothing to worry about. Accuracy above 90% is really good and the important thing is the ones that did get handled.

As it says on that report page:
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Do not worry about your accuracy too much; one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: vphasitha01 on May 21, 2018, 08:00:27 AM
Hi, Thanks TMAN for starting this tread and it is very informative to persons like me who eager  to learn English language which is not my native language. I have already prepared a chart that would be helpful for peoples who eager to learn grammar when writing.

                                       Past                                          Present                                                         Future

Simple                      S + V2 + O                                          S + V1 + O                                                  S + “will” + V1 + O

Perfect                 S +”had”+ V3 + O                          S +”has/have(not)”+ V3 + O                        S +”will/be going to have”+ V3 + O

Continuous        S+”was/were”+ (V1-ing) +O              S+”am/is/are(not)”+( V1-ing) + O                    S+”will /be going to be”+ (V1-ing) + O
   
Perfect Cont..   S+”had(not) been +(V1-ing) + O   S+”has/have(not) been +( V1-ing) + O      S+”will /be going to have been”+ (V1-ing) + O
   
S  - Subject
O  - Object
V1 - Verb root
V2 - Simple past verb form
V3 - Past participle verb form

Please feel free to correct me if i have done some mistake :)




Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Jet Cash on May 21, 2018, 08:09:32 AM
One of the problems with English is that it obeys certain basic rules, except when it doesn't. :)

Ypur future options such as "be going to have been" sound very cumbersome to me, and I'm not sure where I would use them.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: vphasitha01 on May 21, 2018, 12:45:26 PM
One of the problems with English is that it obeys certain basic rules, except when it doesn't. :)

Ypur future options such as "be going to have been" sound very cumbersome to me, and I'm not sure where I would use them.


Yeah,thanks for pointing out that :).But I have seen that some people's are writing "He is going to have been working for three years when it finally closes." Do you think this kind of practice is grammaticaly wrong or just cumbersome to people?


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Larster on May 21, 2018, 04:28:19 PM
I'd say that merit system could be more of like it is in Reddit, where it is really easy to get karma points. If you need to be professor in English and have dived deep into the Crypto ocean and have a profound understanding of the whole world that surrounds us - then it is not a community friendly approach.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Suares on May 21, 2018, 05:02:28 PM
In addition, I would advise to work on the design of the post. To be honest, your post is also not very convenient to read, the main points are not highlighted and everything merges into one. Such posts are often missed


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: heritage35 on June 05, 2018, 01:06:51 PM
You do not need to be a Professor of English, for you to be able to speak and write good English. I appreciate the guide you gave in one of your posts. For you to make your posts relevant you have to learn how to give good and constructive posts with minimum flaws if not perfect.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: paxmao on June 05, 2018, 01:40:55 PM
Regarding all this, I think that mentions to "third world countries" as a diminishing term should be avoided all together. I think that does not require an explanation for most people with a couple of neurons+ on their brains, but just in case:

1 - Among the things you don't choose in life are your parents, the place you are born and the language that is spoken on it.
2 - A crappy post is a crappy post and an informative one can even be written poorly and is still great.

Lastly, I wonder if any of the people on this forum that are constantly telling others to learn English have ever made a personal effort to learn another language before preaching others to learn theirs. Those who try may discover new cultures, new ways of thinking, but mostly they will discover by themselves the magnitude of the task that they are demanding from others in the name of some self-given superiority.

Just look for good information and forget about the comas.

- paxmao - proudly able to speak 3 languages, none of them correctly.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Jet Cash on June 05, 2018, 02:04:19 PM
Lastly, I wonder if any of the people on this forum that are constantly telling others to learn English have ever made a personal effort to learn another language before preaching others to learn theirs. Those who try may discover new cultures, new ways of thinking, but mostly they will discover by themselves the magnitude of the task that they are demanding from others in the name of some self-given superiority.


I learnt French and Latin at school, but I'm a bit rusty with them. I learnt quite a bit of American when I had an American girl friend, and I used to visit her three of four times a year. If you have English as your first language, you have a bit of a problem deciding which language to choose as an addition one, unless you have family or business associations of course. I think that I would choose Chinese or Russian if I had to decide now.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Retty on June 05, 2018, 02:39:07 PM
Great post, although I am brand new here really, I am from the UK and not really here because i need to try and make moneyfrom this, there are plenty of other avenues to go down if people want to make money online, you just have to think outside the box and work hard at it.  ;D

With regards to what you're saying about 3rd world posters, yep, you can see them a mile off! Don't get me wrong i do feel bad for them, and would rather be in my position than theirs, but the same repetitive posts most definitely help their case- quite the opposite infact.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Silent26 on June 05, 2018, 02:54:39 PM
Lastly, I wonder if any of the people on this forum that are constantly telling others to learn English have ever made a personal effort to learn another language before preaching others to learn theirs.
Yeah, they didn't even know how hard it is for people who don't speak their language more often. English is not my first language but I've been studying how to speak English fluently since when I'm in Elementary School until now, I'm a college student but still having trouble to speak English clearly. It's due to people around here doesn't speak English too much.

I think that I would choose Chinese or Russian if I had to decide now.
I would prefer to learn Japanese if ever that I've learned English 88% successfully.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: paxmao on June 08, 2018, 09:03:58 AM
Lastly, I wonder if any of the people on this forum that are constantly telling others to learn English have ever made a personal effort to learn another language before preaching others to learn theirs. Those who try may discover new cultures, new ways of thinking, but mostly they will discover by themselves the magnitude of the task that they are demanding from others in the name of some self-given superiority.


I learnt French and Latin at school, but I'm a bit rusty with them. I learnt quite a bit of American when I had an American girl friend, and I used to visit her three of four times a year. If you have English as your first language, you have a bit of a problem deciding which language to choose as an addition one, unless you have family or business associations of course. I think that I would choose Chinese or Russian if I had to decide now.

American? I am not sure what you mean  ::) Like color and colour or centre and center and all that?

It is fine to help people learn English, I am just complaining about members that put all the focus on the language.



Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: mu_enrico on June 08, 2018, 03:15:34 PM
Regarding all this, I think that mentions to "third world countries" as a diminishing term should be avoided all together.
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Yeah, you're right.. looking back, I often called my country as a third world country. Completely forget about the rich culture and different value to offers. #FeelsBadMan

<...>
It is fine to help people learn English, I am just complaining about members that put all the focus on the language.
<...>

This is rather complicated since to be able to post on the global board, we need decent English. It doesn't have to perfect, but good enough for everyone to understand. Also, any good material about cryptocurrency still in English, so I think we have no option if we want to catch up (in term of knowledge). Maybe, if the majority of literature about cryptocurrency has been translated, we don't have to rely on English. But I'm pessimistic about that. Yeah, it makes my balls itchy, but nothing I can do except occasionally post on local board.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: anushkasachith888 on June 10, 2018, 07:40:11 AM
Appreciate your effort to make this post here. I didn't try much to get mertis last few months, people say it is very hard to get merits these days. However I have been able to get 9 mertis and 1 short of being a member. I think I have made good posts before and i got the rewards.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: jayyen on June 10, 2018, 09:39:14 AM
Merits are so much coveted after these days since you need a lot of it to move in higher ranks on this forum.So to get merits is very difficult and really hard here for many of us.Even though you make quality posts,people are just not interested in reading not even to think of getting merits from them.I think There is a bit selfishness.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: tbct_mt2 on June 12, 2018, 07:27:19 AM
Thatbwas a very nice one. I like the caption of your thread, and as you said it's true. We need to keep the forum healthy with quality posts. I will make sure to post better each day so that i can contribute healthfully to the forum.
In fact, your thread contributed nothing to the TMAN's topic.
What do you think about your approach in the forum after merit system launched, keep posting non-sense threads as efforts to beg for merits?


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: paxmao on June 15, 2018, 10:03:00 AM
Regarding all this, I think that mentions to "third world countries" as a diminishing term should be avoided all together.
<...>

Yeah, you're right.. looking back, I often called my country as a third world country. Completely forget about the rich culture and different value to offers. #FeelsBadMan

<...>
It is fine to help people learn English, I am just complaining about members that put all the focus on the language.
<...>

This is rather complicated since to be able to post on the global board, we need decent English. It doesn't have to perfect, but good enough for everyone to understand. Also, any good material about cryptocurrency still in English, so I think we have no option if we want to catch up (in term of knowledge). Maybe, if the majority of literature about cryptocurrency has been translated, we don't have to rely on English. But I'm pessimistic about that. Yeah, it makes my balls itchy, but nothing I can do except occasionally post on local board.

Develop your local forum, post more often useful stuff and it will grow.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TMAN on June 15, 2018, 01:09:46 PM
Thank you for this tip and advice. I have taken it in but somehow along the way, I have not gained any confidence when I am either posting or commenting because it seems like I am still posting rubbishes and junks. I even researched what a quality post should be and made it as one of my threads here but I cannot really fathom its true meaning.

Learn and share knowledge with other helping. As a new member that is the best path.

while I appreciate you helping newbies out and was about to give you a merit for one of the replies you ended up fucking that up by not reading the rules yourself.. maybe read the forum rules and understand that multiple posts are not allowed!


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: ash_waz on June 15, 2018, 03:04:19 PM
I get merits easily, sure I know "its easy for you as you have been here ages" ETC ETC.. but for those who actually want to level up and be a part of this community then I will do my best to advise you.

Here is a link to the original thread in Meta. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3182178.0

This will help only a few people here as most will just want the bounty Moniez.. but for those who can think a little bigger, and those of you who are here for the right reasons then.

I am adamant the number one cause of no merits is poor English, this is something you can change if you are struggling to get merits so if you know that this is the limitation then you need to take some steps

* Improve your English language, this isnt just spelling and grammar this includes using words like Sir & Mr when I see those I immediately assume the person is a 3rd world poster
* Spend the time that you currently use posting incoherent rubbish to learn proper Written English, start with youtube there has to be over 3002 different videos about writing the English Language also
   https://www.duolingo.com/course/en/ar/Learn-English-Online was recommended by another poster
* Read a few English books, you can download free Ebooks as a starter, look how sentences are structured common words etc.
* Remember a quality post isnt necessarily a long winded post, using words that make you sound like you swallowed a thesauras doesnt help your cause

Take the above advise and stop trying to level up for 3-6 months you will become a quality poster if you use some more of your free time reading the forum, this doesn't mean bounties, altcoins, speculation all the shit subs.. and only post in a few threads every week, no need to try to max out the activity now, sure you want to keep getting towards the higher numbers but its counter productive when we see high activity and 0 merit. Read technical discussion, read all of the most merited threads, understand the significance of Pizza day, the 2011 bubble, Cyprus, HODL, the fall of all the securities that some of us lost the equivalent of $Millions now.

one other thing, you need to stop these bounties, I know it hurts you now financially, but seeing someone in a low end bounty for $20 just makes me assume they are a 3rd world poster and with a great initiative by BTCforJoe there is an option to help https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3055616.0 That thread is a tremendous Idea so props to OP there

a few more things
Do NOT call Sr Members Sir, Mr or any other shit like that, It is not needed.
READ THE FUCKING RULES, both forum rules and individual board rules.
Don't post in Bitcoin Discussion or Economics and wherever you are do NOT post in megathreads, I guarantee you have nothing new to say.
Humor is good, lots of people get merit for silly one liners if they are funny.

Good luck all you newbies, I hope this helps a few of you. Please do not PM me begging for merits, I will ask DT members to tag you if you do.

EDIT: use the search button, so many redundant threads


Thanks so much for taking time and writing this. Really appreciate it. I read a few of the stuff written by you and I am not surprised why you been receiving the merits you have. Lots to take from this article and hopefully I would be as good as you! :-)


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: rn4j0r on June 15, 2018, 03:40:08 PM
Don't post in Bitcoin Discussion or Economics and wherever you are do NOT post in megathreads, I guarantee you have nothing new to say.

Yea, I see these threads with 50+ or even 100s of pages that constantly get bumped up in recent posts. A lot of the comments in them are all from new posts posting 30-40 chars of text and that's it. It's rather obvious they are just posting to get their post count numbers to go up and not really contributing anything to the actual thread or main discussion.

Good tip, I certainly stay away from the large threads.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on July 03, 2018, 10:21:55 AM
Dear newbies, here is one thing more to remember:
Don't quote long posts (often is the OP) without editing them. It's awful reading the same wall of text 20 times per page.
It's very simple. If you are referring to the whole post, then just quote it, delete the text and write ~snip~ or similar, that it.
If you referring to a part of the text, just leave this part and remove the rest.

Sorry TMAN for the off-topic.
 


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: Gwapoman on August 28, 2018, 07:19:54 AM
I don't think speaking good english is the real basis of members that reward merits..this user POST (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4958531.msg44687838#msg446878388) is one example of it..As long as you can understand the posers point and gets the real value of the post, it's already enough to rewards the user some merits.

although, speaking good english is really a big advantage in this forum because majority of the users and world uses it, i still don't see it as the main factor to gain merits in this forum.for me,it's a matter of how useful and informative value of the post.


Title: Re: I got merits, lots of them - do you want some??
Post by: soccer_crowds on September 01, 2018, 10:15:51 AM
Regarding all this, I think that mentions to "third world countries" as a diminishing term should be avoided all together. I think that does not require an explanation for most people with a couple of neurons+ on their brains, but just in case:

1 - Among the things you don't choose in life are your parents, the place you are born and the language that is spoken on it.
2 - A crappy post is a crappy post and an informative one can even be written poorly and is still great.

Lastly, I wonder if any of the people on this forum that are constantly telling others to learn English have ever made a personal effort to learn another language before preaching others to learn theirs. Those who try may discover new cultures, new ways of thinking, but mostly they will discover by themselves the magnitude of the task that they are demanding from others in the name of some self-given superiority.

Just look for good information and forget about the comas.

- paxmao - proudly able to speak 3 languages, none of them correctly.

paxmao - proudly able to make a great post.
Someday I will have merits, and maybe much more, to share with you.

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discover by themselves the magnitude of the task that they are demanding from others

Young people have it easier in this context, for adults to learn a new language can be really hard.