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Title: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: SabrinaBianka on November 12, 2018, 01:54:13 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: MadGamer on November 15, 2018, 09:46:28 AM
This is actually a very valid statement and sadly, it's valid for a lot of projects out there. They clearly don't do it to drop the price because they don't really care about that.

But mainly because they don't want to be traced or the address being flagged or something so they just move to fiat as soon as possible and live a good life afterwards.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: bigcash2011 on November 15, 2018, 09:53:10 AM
Yes that can happen but at the same time i think big investors do not just throw their money away they analyse the project from every possible aspect before investing so usually they invest in high quality projects only, so even if the fake projects succeed in raising funds i do not think they are enough to create a big negative effect on market.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: zero714309 on November 15, 2018, 10:00:20 AM
What you say is true. Lately a lot of scam project even to recognize from the beginning is very difficult. Some scammers have nice marketing technique that is very remarkable to made investor believe. For now on eth platform has been very risky. Some people get get easily smart contract and make their project. I think eth need more security updates.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: batang_bitcoin on November 15, 2018, 10:18:00 AM
I couldn't agree more with that.

Fake ICO project and when they collected a lot of ethereum. They just dump those ethereums that they got because that's their scheme. They don't care to the market and the pocket of their investors. That's their life and they just rinse and repeat.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Vilagra on November 15, 2018, 10:19:27 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

I don't believe that scammers have affect on ETH price, ETH follow by the all market trends, bitcoin and all market capitalization grows and ETH grows, otherwise it falls with all market.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: ardaclown on November 15, 2018, 10:28:05 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

I don't believe that scammers have affect on ETH price, ETH follow by the all market trends, bitcoin and all market capitalization grows and ETH grows, otherwise it falls with all market.
Well, I think that they have a impact but not big as real ICOs because most of the projects collect money from Ethereum smart contracts ans they have millions of dollar worth ETH. They sell huge amounts of ETH every month or so.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: talkbitcoin on November 15, 2018, 10:46:50 AM
you are wrong in my opinion.
the scammers and lots of people who got scammed because of ethereum might have contributed to the drop but the main reason for this drop remains the same as always and it is because of the pump which needed to have a dump without any way of getting out of it.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Pamahaw on November 15, 2018, 10:54:40 AM
Yes, you are right. They are just flooding the crypto market with a lot of eth sell order thus making the value dip because they don't have concern of the price as long as they convert their crypto to fiat.

We can also blame those newbies who fall victims to these scammers as they are the ones giving those scammers the crypto. Hope the community will be more vigilant not to be victims of these idiots.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Sanford on November 15, 2018, 10:57:33 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

Sir you are absolutely right. I think so too. Scammers vseravno on cryptocurrency world. They are the main thing to steal for more, and then safely hide. This is a big problem of the cryptocurrency world.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: smyslov on November 15, 2018, 10:59:07 AM
Yes, you have a point, once these scammers got their funds they will immediately sell not only Ethereum but Bitcoin also, as you can see Bitcoin price is dipping because of this, investors are using Bitcoin and Ethereum to invest in ICO no wonder the prices of both these coins are going down.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Yaddady on November 15, 2018, 11:17:10 AM
This has sadly been the case against scammers who have infiltrated the space, launching useless projects with the sole aim of collecting ETH from the investing public and dumping them at the exchanges for fiat. This is has continued to suppress the price of ETH especially in a bears market. This is one of the biggest problems of ETH at the moment.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Conte_Forni on November 15, 2018, 12:06:31 PM

I think you said everything correctly, there are a lot of fraudsters around ETH, I think this has a very bad effect on ETH. But now, while there is trust, many projects use ETH and we have to put up with it, but I think soon things will change. Therefore, we are waiting for a bright future.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: baghdatis1990 on November 15, 2018, 01:16:25 PM
       I think SCAM projects will not succeed in crypto market lying to people forever. Even if an investor is fooled by a SCAM project, through the beautiful interface of the project, I do not think that the project manages to raise the amount of money needed to start the project. Therefore, it should not influence the price of ETH too much. The bad part is that bounty hunters work in vain, and some investors suffer. It is true that some of the blame is also affected by those who did not do their own research when they got involved in the project.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: bartolo on November 15, 2018, 03:11:26 PM
The fall of the Ethereum price has nothing to do with scammers, it's just the consequence of the market situation, all coins prices are dropping, it's just that.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: payjoe93 on November 15, 2018, 04:31:21 PM
scammers is not only targeting ETH platform.. so, i think the price of ETH is not came from scammers.. i think, the price of ETH is demands on market activity and based on BITCOIN..


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: armarsterling7 on November 15, 2018, 04:47:08 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
It is definitely affecting the price of ETH. Immediate sale will make its price drop dramatically and these are components that should be removed early from the crypto market. We need to have security guards and put the scammers in jail. It has caused a lot of damage to investors.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: zinjo on November 15, 2018, 04:54:42 PM
scammers is not only targeting ETH platform.. so, i think the price of ETH is not came from scammers.. i think, the price of ETH is demands on market activity and based on BITCOIN..
The main reason for price fluctuation is depends on whales are selling the too much Bitcoin in yesterday. So we are all panic in this trend but we should concentrate and focus on future remedy. I think we saw many dump and pump in the market so this will be change soon in crypto market.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: bolshojkush on November 15, 2018, 04:58:49 PM
I think that all cryptocurrency is tied to bitcoin. Bitcoin falls and everything falls. And Ethereum is no exception. So just wait for the growth of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: shark69 on November 15, 2018, 05:02:24 PM
What you say is true. They make people's views on ICO worse. Almost all parties are affected.
There must be changes made to overcome this problem, currently masternodes are one solution to that. Let's see what happens next.   :)


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: gunhell16 on November 15, 2018, 05:03:24 PM
If someone who launch an ICO and scam the investors it will surely give them a big number of ETH.
For the record to be gone in their side they need to transfer it to an exchange which doesn't have KYC.
Then once the ETH has been traded to other coins and transfers to another wallet the trace will be then gone.
all they need is to dump their ETH then get like BTC transfer to another wallet then done!


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Anarchist on November 15, 2018, 05:05:47 PM
No, scammers don't affect the price, otherwise, the dollar would have collapsed a few centuries ago, and ETH would have collapsed every weeks too which didn't happen.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: mayan251 on November 15, 2018, 05:17:01 PM
If it's a fraud project. They usually do this. The ETH raised will be sold centrally or in batches. This is a factor affecting the price of ETH.



Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: pri3oner on November 15, 2018, 05:18:53 PM
When we will get brand new rules for ICO's that will control the process and eventually will make it clear, that situation gonna become the past issue.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Yalovtsev on November 15, 2018, 05:19:52 PM
Of course,and with very much can affect, steal tokens from the exchange, wallet,thereby causing negative news,and the collapse of the course, plus more manipulation also do mostly these scams traders and speculators, they live it, people without conscience


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: ije07 on November 15, 2018, 05:47:19 PM
that's not true but it's also not wrong because in my opinion it also has an impact on the price of ethereum but that's not the biggest reason, if only because many scammers use ethereum as a smart contract then only ethereum will fall but what happens now is all coins also fall even bitcoin, there must be another reason that causes ethereum to fall and to be honest I don't really know about that


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: De_nis on November 15, 2018, 05:54:45 PM
Unfortunately, criminals occupy a significant role in the discrimination of the entire cryptorink, it is a pity that they can have such a strong influence on the crypto markets.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: wanted sliter on November 15, 2018, 06:16:17 PM
yes, absolutely scammer effect ETH price!
most of scammers use ICO to take people's money
and most of ICOs base on ETH platform. so this act will effect the faith for this market


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: arditiyan on November 15, 2018, 06:18:12 PM
I strongly agree with this, so easily making smart contracts without strong legal protection for investors, ethereum must immediately think about this


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: BartS on November 15, 2018, 06:38:11 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
This is definitely affecting ethereum and not only in that way, as we know ethereum is very dependent on icos to make its price to go up and now that there are so many scams and there is so much distrust in those projects people are not buying ethereum, and we know what happens when the demand goes down and the supply goes up, so the price of ethereum has been particularly affected by the current bear market.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Indamuck on November 15, 2018, 06:48:34 PM
Its the entire crypto market, it's not just ethereum.  The whole crypto market follows the trend of bitcoin.  Every market goes through corrections, all we have to do is wait it out.  I'm personally buying more crypto right now and the price of Eth is an absolute steal right now.  I'm surprised it's below 200 dollars again but it's just another great buying opportunity.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: 1cak on November 15, 2018, 06:50:51 PM
I strongly agree with the analysis that you provide, I see that everyone easily makes projects use smart contracts regardless of what they offer, and what the impact is on investor confidence


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Oceat on November 15, 2018, 07:15:39 PM
They can affect only if they dump those tokens that they had but it is unlikely to happen these days because of the KYC rules on almost exchanges which make them think twice to scam their participants and investors. In order to know if the project was legit we must have to conduct our own research about of that project and to their development team.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: guillot1ne on November 15, 2018, 07:25:24 PM
So, it is so possible to be true. Many scam actions about ethereum will make in more useless. So, try to avoid scams.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Maestro75 on November 15, 2018, 07:25:57 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
I do not think your logic is correct. The people who invest through the ETH ERC know that whatever happens with the smart contract is not to be blamed on ETH as a coin. Scammers will always exist whether we like it or not. Do we not have scammers in religious settings too? This is the consequence of evil we have to face on earth.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: okaypool on November 15, 2018, 07:30:30 PM
It seems to me that fraudsters have a very negative effect on ethereum. Thanks to the ILC, the fraudsters manage to collect large funds, and then sell ethereum on the exchange. And in general, the reputation of the ethereum has recently deteriorated very much


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: owlman on November 15, 2018, 08:17:11 PM
There is no need to deny the fact that some projects can sell ETH in large quantities (because they need money for development projects, etc.) and thereby affect the ethereum price reduction, but also take into account the overall market situation and the price of Bitcoin, at which oriented the entire market and the prices of all coins.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Classica35 on November 15, 2018, 10:17:19 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
I can reckon with your point, because whatsoever is gotten cheaply or that you did not even pay for before getting it, you might not appreciate it and might dispose it off cheaply, because such might not know the value.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Gaggy185 on November 15, 2018, 10:27:38 PM
I know that there are so many scammer are taking advantages of ETH to scam money from other people but I don't think it's the main reason for this dump in price of ETH. Although it's not an scam one but it's still really risky for investor so I don't think just because of scammer that ETH price can be dumped so low like that. Maybe there are some other reasons like the whales trap or maybe this is a signal for a bull run. ;D


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: cryptonight9631 on November 16, 2018, 08:18:15 AM
I agree with that. Because like scammer, they are the same with the hacker. The fund they get by making fraud to others, is that they sell it immediately to the exchange that they like and and they don't care how much is the price. But probably they sell it to the lowest for it to be sold immediately. By that the price of the coin will move downward for sure.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Cordwel on November 16, 2018, 08:38:02 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

it's true that the scammers will immediately sell their ETH, but I'm not sure that's what caused the eth value to drop. eth that they managed to collect was not that big.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: funchiestz on November 16, 2018, 08:40:42 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?


This is probably the only benefit of the ETH's price drop. But a lot of crypto money is closely related to the price of Ethereum. For this reason, Ethereum's price should rise as soon as possible. I think it's unlikely that until the expected bull season, Ethereum sees $ 500.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: mukabokep on November 16, 2018, 12:43:47 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

I think there is no effect between scammers and ETH exchange rates. If a scammer sells ETH for a large amount, then the investor will buy it in large quantities. This means that reciprocity from ETH exists.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: miltonpogi on November 16, 2018, 12:47:28 PM
You mean by this is those ICO projects? Yeah, that's pretty much how they do it. Since ICO projects in cryptocurrency world is hard to distinguish if it's legit, investors tend to get scammed and those scammed ETH are being dump. That's pretty much how they affect price.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: salmaku on November 16, 2018, 12:49:42 PM
I also have the same thoughts as you, I was very surprised and sad because the price of etherium has fallen sharply. I don't think, why are there so many scammers who are not responsible for misusing etherium. so that this greatly affects traders and bounty hunters who expect etherium prices to rise.  and investors will definitely be greatly disadvantaged.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Zurcermozz on November 16, 2018, 01:04:01 PM
Yes, well in fact, people now are just taking advantage in ICOs and most project are using ETH. Also got the point of Market strategy, they used it to tricks the investor and they promise something and it just turned out to be a scam, this is the reason why investors right now are scared. So the best thing to do for investors is to review which projects will be successful and worthy.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: simpelplan on November 16, 2018, 01:29:27 PM
not only ethereum, but all crypto.
Scammers make a lot of people lose confidence in Ethereum and Crypto and that greatly affects the market and altcoin prices


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Gontxi on November 16, 2018, 01:39:01 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?


yes maybe that is one of them, but it won't fall easily as you say when the scam sells ethereum. this depends on the market itself, but if viewed from the current situation and situation.
can be an ethereum factor down deeper


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on November 16, 2018, 02:03:05 PM
While this one have the chance of affecting the ETH market, I don't see the capital those scammers have acquired easily affect the whole market because they have quite small portion but it can't be underestimated
because the number of the coin they steal is growing day by day and need to eventually be stopped.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: kobita333 on November 16, 2018, 02:08:55 PM
I don't think it has any kind of relationship with the price of ETH because while they are selling, investors also have to buy it for investing in those fake ICO or whatever. So, it's less reasonable. I think ETH is being lowered just because everybody is dumping and trying to get into BTC.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: InGODweTrast3 on November 16, 2018, 02:10:50 PM
Scammers have a very bad effect on the credibility of the crypto market, especially the arrival of new investors, they spoil the crypto market, I hope the scammers will soon end!


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: masterrex on November 16, 2018, 02:42:00 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
Partly has a valid point and partly not! As we all know the so called crypto-dynamics the law between the supply and demand is the main cause of the price movements. if more sellers than buyers its usually affect the price for sure. So i think those scamming incidents are not the sole culprit about Ethereum price dropped! But its a complex caused!


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Ibas samara on November 16, 2018, 03:08:52 PM
Yes it's true. Scammers must be destroyed! If this problem is not fast resolved maybe the future of ETH is no longer good. Smart contracts are too easy to make so the greater the chance for scamers to carry out the action.This is very bad to investors ,make them disappointed and maybe investors will not believe in cryptocurrency anymore. I hope all of this can still be improved.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: giletto on November 16, 2018, 03:35:54 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?


This is probably the only benefit of the ETH's price drop. But a lot of crypto money is closely related to the price of Ethereum. For this reason, Ethereum's price should rise as soon as possible. I think it's unlikely that until the expected bull season, Ethereum sees $ 500.
ETH is really unstable in 2018. Its price goes down and now it has lowered support again. ETH prices may fall to around 120-150$ next month as the BTC continues to fall, ETH will rise to 500$ but I think we have to wait until the end of 2019


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: riska hanissa on November 16, 2018, 03:44:41 PM
at first glance it seems to affect prices because it is able to control market capitalists, but that is only temporary if scamer sells ETH as a result of cheats at low prices.
I think it's only limited to reasonable analysis.
but basically the price of ETH is not influenced by scammers because of its fluctuating nature.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: xuv500 on November 16, 2018, 04:05:48 PM
Scammers have a very bad effect on the credibility of the crypto market, especially the arrival of new investors, they spoil the crypto market, I hope the scammers will soon end!

I agree with you,  scammers blasted this market as they disappointed many people's  who worked for their projects.  Still there are lot of good projects who pay you via tokens, however planning for longterm is always  better.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: sky_Gritzz on November 16, 2018, 04:14:28 PM
i think that's can affect market condition when scammer dumping Ethereum market for get big profit, especially when any some project with Scam Ending, i think the developer can dump the market whn they're sell the fund from crowdsale


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: YinShuiSiYuan on November 16, 2018, 04:49:23 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

Perhaps there is a lot of truth in your theory. But how then to refer to the falling price of bitcoin, which has a major impact on the movement of the entire market. At a daily eth volume, about 2 billion $ is how much they would have to sell at once to significantly affect the price drop.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: BartS on November 22, 2018, 08:45:51 PM
not only ethereum, but all crypto.
Scammers make a lot of people lose confidence in Ethereum and Crypto and that greatly affects the market and altcoin prices
This is correct, the effect of scammers in the market is often underestimated, they are giving a very bad image to cryptocurrencies and that is making a lot of people that could be interested in investing in this market to decide to not do it because they are afraid that they could be scammed, and we cannot say anything to them because the truth is that most people in the forum have been scammed at least once so we know that their worries are real.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: DoubleShow on November 22, 2018, 08:51:26 PM
i think that's can affect market condition when scammer dumping Ethereum market for get big profit, especially when any some project with Scam Ending, i think the developer can dump the market whn they're sell the fund from crowdsale
I never noticed the price of ETH fell sharply while the rest of the coins grew. A ICO projects raise funds not only at ETH but also in other popular currencies. So, if a quick sale needs to fall in the price of all the coins. But in any case, it is necessary to fight fraud . You need to give them the collected funds strictly for the implementation of the road map and not on personal expenses.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: jossiel on November 22, 2018, 11:02:58 PM
I never noticed the price of ETH fell sharply while the rest of the coins grew.
What type of price tracker are you using? just a simple search with coinmarketcap you'll see that the whole market is falling including bitcoin and the rest of the market. ETH dropped quickly from its peak for this year except early January, starting by February it is falling sharply.

And right now, it has been overtaken by XRP on its rank and its market cap lost a lot of money due to the bear market. And OP is right, there are many ICO makers that held a lot of ETH dumped accordingly.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: makadaka on November 22, 2018, 11:05:32 PM
Unfortunately this is true. investors paid money to ethereum and the developers at the moment just sell their coins ethereum


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: CopMom on November 22, 2018, 11:09:32 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

You mean that the scammers affect the price of ETH. I think the scammers are the ICO projects. Recently, the ratio of scam ICO projects tend to increase to more than 50%, and huge affect on the price of ETH. And I so worried because I'm a bounty hunter, and I don't want to waste my time to work for scam ICO projects.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: asriloni on November 22, 2018, 11:11:35 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

You mean that the scammers affect the price of ETH. I think the scammers are the ICO projects. Recently, the ratio of scam ICO projects tend to increase to more than 50%, and I so worried because I'm a bounty hunter, and I don't want to waste my time to work for scam ICO projects.
The scammer can give an impact to the price of ethereum. Remember these scammers will dump their ethereum that has been collected through fool others to the market instantly. They don't care so much about how much rate but they always try to dump it for pennies. these idiots scammers are uneducated person.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: flyingcat on November 22, 2018, 11:12:47 PM
I don't think ETH price is bleeding just because of scammer or scammer can have any effect on ETH price :). If scammers are trying to scam money from investors by using smart contract so investors just need to avoid investing in ICO project based on ETH blockchain or they just need to check every project more carefully before investing :).


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: halpi on November 22, 2018, 11:18:04 PM
Yep, seems that this is true, not only scummers but many other ICO GURU and excellent managers, that raised funds and then cannot follow their roadmap or just some dates that they had stated by themselves.

ICO market seems like a bubble and it had exploded


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: masterchief001 on November 22, 2018, 11:21:51 PM
There are many forms of scam online and countless scammers. Scammers appear everywhere, they are crowded, sophisticated and dangerous incalculable. Without the knowledge of safe trading, you become the scammer's "prey". It not only caused ETH to fall sharply but also to other coins.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: qtronix on November 22, 2018, 11:40:33 PM
I don't think the scammers have exactly such purposes. They collect ether and also hold it, waiting for growth. It makes no sense for them to try to bring down the price of ether. They just want to make money on crypto like us, but they choose such a bad way.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: wojteks102 on November 22, 2018, 11:55:31 PM
This is actually a very valid statement and sadly, it's valid for a lot of projects out there. They clearly don't do it to drop the price because they don't really care about that.

But mainly because they don't want to be traced or the address being flagged or something so they just move to fiat as soon as possible and live a good life afterwards.

It might be one of the whole bunch of reasons but remember about ton of ICO projects which need to pay expenses and need to sell their collected Ether.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Menawi12 on November 23, 2018, 01:06:20 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

I dont think thats affecting on ethereum price. Ethereum is not a token with smart contract, but i am agree that give bad perspective for ethereum. But i am agree that many scammer using ethereum for scamming people and sell it when accumulated will affecting on ethereum price


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: FreeAirdrops on November 23, 2018, 01:11:53 AM
Well it's not just scammers that have dumped ETH. Some legit projects have had to sell to raise funds.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: SinisterBountyHunter on November 24, 2018, 10:00:12 PM
What you say is true. Lately a lot of scam project even to recognize from the beginning is very difficult. Some scammers have nice marketing technique that is very remarkable to made investor believe. For now on eth platform has been very risky. Some people get get easily smart contract and make their project. I think eth need more security updates.
Sometimes good scammers are planning it right to make it undetectable for the investors. We must be very careful upon selecting high quality ico projects. Because many projects right now looks very legit. But at the end the team will exit scam after accumulating large funds in the tokensale.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: BartS on December 04, 2018, 06:01:43 PM
i think that's can affect market condition when scammer dumping Ethereum market for get big profit, especially when any some project with Scam Ending, i think the developer can dump the market whn they're sell the fund from crowdsale
I never noticed the price of ETH fell sharply while the rest of the coins grew. A ICO projects raise funds not only at ETH but also in other popular currencies. So, if a quick sale needs to fall in the price of all the coins. But in any case, it is necessary to fight fraud . You need to give them the collected funds strictly for the implementation of the road map and not on personal expenses.
But that is impossible, once you give your money to someone else you have no rights over that money, the developers can use that money as they want and it is going to be impossible for you to stop them, that is why you need to be very careful about the ico projects in which you choose to invest because if you are not then you're going to be in a situation in which you know the developers are going to waste money that should be used for the development of the project.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: siddartha1492 on December 04, 2018, 06:44:49 PM
It certainly impacts ETH price. Currently ETH has the most amount of tokens, project built using it. And many researches have claimed that 70%+ of ETH projects either fail or are outright scams. So obviously a big chunk of ETH is in the hands of these scammers, phishers etc. And they keep cashing it out, affecting ETH's price. Also legit projects need to sell ETH to continue their development.  I think in order to provide more value to ETH, we need to be more cautious of where we are investing our ETH. If we keep investing ETH in quick profit shady projects, then it will come to bite us only in the long term, like now.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Henrobakkara on December 04, 2018, 06:50:37 PM
yes, that reason seems to me very plausible because scammers will never care about the price of ETH now, what they have in mind is just money, money and money ... and after they sell everything, surely he will try to cheat many more people


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: hongus on December 04, 2018, 06:55:56 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

Certainly in your words a lot of sense. ETH is in constant danger. Imagine how much of the investment we lose each year. The more popular the investment in ICO, the more scammers. Just if you take general statements from the forum, about 70% of the projects are now non-liquid. Even if the projects will use Eos this will not fix the situation. Since vseravno money go fraudsters.

But this is not the only problem.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Muhtaixa on December 04, 2018, 07:47:00 PM
The ETH amount collected by Scam projects will definitely be converted to cash. You're right about that. And this will always be a factor in lowering the price of Ethereum. Scam projects and unnecessary projects have also collected millions of dollars of ethereum. They all have a lot of ethereum. And this is a great danger ...


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: 5ensei on December 04, 2018, 08:05:04 PM
It's not just the developers that dump their ETH, these ICOs often give huge discounts to early bird investors and it is these guys that dump at the fist opportunity. Bounty hunters only have 2% of the supply which has a low impact on prices


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: MCJamison1987 on December 04, 2018, 08:15:34 PM
As much as it is  true, that is the sad part of it.
It happens not only to ETH but to most ICO tokens.
That is the whole point of scamming, which also leads o dump coins.
These people do not intend to drop the price, but their sole purpose is to make money faster and leave no trace


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Bonsaiav on December 04, 2018, 09:21:36 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

Most of the goals of dark project developers or scammers, only want to get the maximum profit, they don't care about the conditions of the existing price or future price conditions. When they get funding from investors, they tend to sell it directly because there is a sense of worry if the project will be tracked by law enforcement. However, even though they only focus on profit, in the end their actions can still influence the price of ETH and other cryptos.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: levvv on December 05, 2018, 03:29:22 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

Yes, scammer will dump the ETH they stole because they only want quick money.
That is why we must take any way to do our own research before we want to enter a new project.
Another thing that made ETH price drop is because ICO companies want to sell their ETH to pay development fee of their project.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: binhvo1505 on December 05, 2018, 03:38:16 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
I do not think that. They can still hold as we do. The price of ETH goes down because of the adjustment of the market drivers. The scammers as well as us. They will wait for high prices and will sell. They do not rush because no one can penetrate their wallet.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: eagleman on December 05, 2018, 04:02:52 AM
These scammers affect the price when they start selling those ETH that they collected.

When there's an overflowing supply of ETH or any other coins in the circulation that makes the demand lesser.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: bayu7adi on December 05, 2018, 04:12:46 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

not only people who use the smart contract, but the scammers who are behind the cryptocurrency exchanger, now, who knows if they are really hacked? it could just be a drama to fool the cryptocurrency community around the world

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x4ed28237638aad4ff069bb3e33ef484228f1fa05c630524d65c426252cbbefea

imagine 1.5 million ETH being moved, and be prepared for the next dump


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Xiaolongnu on December 05, 2018, 04:17:24 AM
It's a big reason of ETH crash, scammers abuse ICO to get ETH from us, sell ETH in low price make ETH price falling. Unfortunately we can't stop scammer because we can not do anything to stop them.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Commitments on December 05, 2018, 04:22:27 AM
Scammer never have big effect for ethereum price, but drop by bitcoin make all of altcoin have lower price, look how bitcoin could have price under $4,000 and make all of altcoin price and ethereum have allowed under $200 and now have lower price at this year,


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: globalcitizen on December 05, 2018, 04:28:54 AM
You got a point in your argument. That's why I tend to believe that a specific and automated regulation that will govern how investors' money should be used and timeline for withdrawal from smart contract address must be put in place considering the above point you made to deter such dubious devs.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: covfefe_ on December 05, 2018, 05:20:00 AM
To some extent yes. There are more people selling off ETH and less buyers. That's decreasing the price.
Only if people were serious about their investment and projects were serious about their investors and their welfare, it would not have been the case.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Absolutep on December 05, 2018, 05:44:43 AM
I guess I want to agree with you to some extent,these scammers has caused a lot of disorder in the crypto sphere causing a dip in the value of ETH especially.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: organelles on December 05, 2018, 11:40:58 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

Yes scammers can actually affect the prices of a coin and ethereum is no exception from this. If people are losing their coins to scammers from a particular project then you can be sure that they are going to want to move away from that coin and people are not going to want to invest in them. it is one of the major problems we face as cryptocurrency investors


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Premooooo on December 05, 2018, 11:45:35 AM
Of course, scammers really have the effect of ethereum because investors are few here today because they are losing their appetite that they might just scam their money when they invest in it.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: starplaks on December 05, 2018, 11:46:56 AM
So. The last time a lot of purses, which turned out to be a fraudulent transfer their coins to Fiat and that is not very well reflected in Ethereum!


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: joykulot on December 05, 2018, 11:52:08 AM
i think it is, this is a valid reason but totally sadly. i hope many of us will beware all we think is scammer. keep safe guys because of them we affect and eth we hold.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: irixo10 on December 05, 2018, 02:46:37 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

Yes, scammer will dump the ETH they stole because they only want quick money.
That is why we must take any way to do our own research before we want to enter a new project.
Another thing that made ETH price drop is because ICO companies want to sell their ETH to pay development fee of their project.
It's hard for us to find good projects, not dumping ETH to sustain their projects, Almost all projects are the same and they need funding to operate, so they will sell all to get as much money as possible


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Asmh85 on December 05, 2018, 04:00:47 PM
Yeah, it sounds this is one of the factors behind Ethereum price falling, many projects liquidate their funds and this caused Ethereum price dump


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: premiumproductss on December 05, 2018, 04:10:10 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
You mean ICOs that are scammers? Because ICOs are constantly selling their collected Ether tokens so thats why price of Ether is still falling the whole year.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: CryptoCoinArbitrage on December 05, 2018, 11:31:53 PM
If the price is declining it is normal to short your coins to save it`s value somehow. The problem is when many do
this at the same time, then the price  crashes as ETH did. The bearish market had also its influence on this happening.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: dfktynby1004 on December 07, 2018, 10:08:32 PM
If we take into account that most of the scammers create fake ICO projects and collect Ethereum, then I think it is quite possible.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: pinoy.bolanon on December 07, 2018, 10:17:41 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

I believe so because it losses the confidence of traders and investors to invest more due to the proliferation of ico scams. Now the problem proliferates day by day and no solution was provided, this is the sad thing in crypto world.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Prosperityforall on December 07, 2018, 10:24:53 PM
I think some hackers can affect eth price,because after hacking of exchange they can dump coins.
Also attack 51% can affect market as well


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: chadtn on December 07, 2018, 10:29:50 PM
I think that the price of the air is controlled by big players, their task is to minimize the rate and buy at the best price, then I hurry to sell the coins, I think then it can be made much more profitable. What do you think about the price reduction? What price should be on the air?


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Astermony on December 07, 2018, 10:40:32 PM
 yes you are right but for me, the main factors that affect above all reasons are the massive dumping of the Ethereum holders including the investors who are afraid to lose further.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: frost_wind on December 07, 2018, 10:47:19 PM
Unfortunately, now the ethereum does not need the help of scammers to fly down , it successfully copes with this task by itself  :( . Those who worry about the attack 51% can calm down. Eth blockchain is safe, because the largest part of its total network hashrate is gpu miners, which means its network is decentralized.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: freya louis on December 07, 2018, 11:08:01 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

If associated, it seems reasonable that one of the reasons why ETH prices are falling is because scammers are increasingly carrying away the investors' money they collect during the fake ICO they run. Now we must be more careful in choosing projects that will be used as places of investment and sanction the perpetrators of scams.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: wizardcrypto on December 07, 2018, 11:12:29 PM
l totally agree with you mate . there are lot project in the crypto space that have well structured project vision in dilllusion all these happens because there is no regulation of ico , and many bounty hunter promote this project in the name of been paid by the project token or coin as the case may be or even with ETh which also lead to many investors believe in such project. this act have affected the price of eth and eth is yet to maintain the second position on the coin market


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: chip1994 on December 07, 2018, 11:18:16 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

The scammers you mentioned in your topic are the ICO project scam, right?. And I belive that the ICO scam project will dominate the price of ETH if the project is invested a lot of money by the investors. And the other thing that the ICO project has lost the belief about the market and will panic sell all ETH to cut loss.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: nemey on December 07, 2018, 11:27:46 PM
Sadly, so sadly. But I think that your statement may be true. Scammers are everywhere and they are too smart in utilizing the smart contract of ETH or other technologies. They know the chance of inviting the investors to them and then leave them with the coins that they already got. However, ETH is still in that very sad price, Looking at the price right now, it is very drastic dropped. I don't know it will need how many months to recover.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: bitcoin31 on December 07, 2018, 11:29:00 PM
It can affect to the ethereum price also. Because if the scammer have a lot of ethereum and they decide to sell it for sure the proce of the etjereum will dump the value. Remember scammer have a lpt of xoins because theu scam people with thousand of dollars.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: coin-investor on December 07, 2018, 11:39:19 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

Rightly said so, I have seen that so many times, so it's important that you follow the development of the ICO that you are promoting and any bad sign let the community knows about it and involve the community in finding if it is a bad one or a good one let's help each other.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: King Bounty on December 07, 2018, 11:52:05 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

indeed one of the reasons why ETH prices fell because many ICOs were scams, which made investors sell their coins to ETH and cash out, but another cause of ETH price drops is due to falling BTC prices, so that ETH prices also down, because I'm sure if the price of BTC stays at $ 18,000, maybe the price of ETH won't go down very far like what is happening now.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: suzanne5223 on December 08, 2018, 07:36:06 PM
I think some hackers can affect eth price,because after hacking of exchange they can dump coins.
Also attack 51% can affect market as well
Yes, scammer can affect the price of ETH but the case of 51% attack is definitely different from hacker issue because 51% attack was logic which some coin competitor used in other to steal the show from a coin which seems to be a obstacle for their project success. While, hacking a act played by online theft but it usually affect all coins and the only reason which it can affect a single coin is if the coin was the main target.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: zcashplan on December 09, 2018, 07:43:49 AM
The scammers are not only affected by the price of Ethereum. In fact, the bubble of this year is caused by scammers. Many altcoins projects are worthless, so Bitcoin will choose to depreciate sharply to kill the altcoin. Is the right way.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: R9s on December 09, 2018, 07:46:08 AM
This is for sure, because after the fraudsters successfully implement the scam, they will sell the cryptocurrency they received in exchange for cash! And ETH provides them with convenience!


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Fluxtorrence9 on December 09, 2018, 08:31:01 AM
90% of people in crypto space that are scam victims are scammed through ICOs ,this is what is making erc20 ETH looks bad ,smart contracts has become the easiest way for scammers to scam victims ,I hope something will be done about this in the future ,ethereum deserves better


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: GmBoom on December 09, 2018, 12:51:14 PM
I think that it cannot be possible to accumulate scammers on that huge amount to disturb the current price marketcap of ethereum. Because when scammers pretend that their project was very legit, they can undergo for the SEC first which will be busted. But if they succeed. There is just a little amount to be accumulated for sure.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Miklight88 on December 09, 2018, 01:07:51 PM
I don't see that as an excuse to get ETH dip in this market , we can all see that market generally is down even the king itself is down so why so much concern about ETH , oh you have some bag n wondering why you in lost , just hold and wait for market turn around.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Who I on December 09, 2018, 03:21:32 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
Thus, it does not affect the price of ether in any way. The price of ether may be affected by other scammers. In other words, they are called manipulators. I consider them to be scammers as they manage the market for their own benefit


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: thunderbolt88 on December 13, 2018, 02:22:11 AM
They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Robotbitcoin22 on December 13, 2018, 02:25:51 AM
Factors from the scammer did make the market crumble. ico has cheated and dumped ethereum prices. and this is very detrimental. as we already know that this year there are many ico who cheat and run away


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Fortified on December 13, 2018, 05:04:27 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

I think not only ETH was affected but the whole cryptocurrency maybe its not affect directly but it killing crypto slowly , so this should avoided and prohibited .


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: AlphaGoo on December 13, 2018, 09:01:05 AM
Yes, a lot of ICO scams made investors fear, and even the ICO developer team felt fear of selling Ethereum, so now Ethereum has been hit hard, and I think the price of Ethereum will be difficult to recover in the future.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: langaw2018 on December 14, 2018, 09:39:27 PM
They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors they will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ethereum.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: NotFoundGlobal on December 14, 2018, 09:46:12 PM
price of ETH down because many people hold eth and then sell them without thinking about the price. Why? because their have ETH from fundraising ICO, this is why eth price is going down. Also, the supply doesn't limited.

Well, I think eth is only for gas not for investment. I know it can be invested too but it is better invested in bitcoin. if you want to have some eth you can buy instantly with bitcoin


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: PapaJ on December 14, 2018, 11:28:49 PM
I think that for the most part, the huge number of projects created at ERC20 influences the price of Ethereum. It is they who lower the price lower and lower, and the reason for this is not the readiness for such a protracted fall!


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: chenhaonan on December 15, 2018, 10:00:02 AM
Yes, when the scammers become a lot, the price of Ethereum will be affected. In fact, this has become a fact. ICO is a gathering place for scammers. The purpose of many projects is money. Ethereum is now depreciating sharply, which has become a sad reality.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: karthcrypt on December 15, 2018, 10:17:23 AM
If the issue of scamming activities continue without any solution,  ICO will die and ethereum reputation may be affected though,  ethereum it's self is not a scam coin but those that scam people's ether will tarnish Ethereum reputation!


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Bobby park on December 15, 2018, 10:24:13 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
It is sad to say but it is the reality of ethereum. The primary use of ethereum token is to make a smart contract. The ERC20 TOKEN smart contract helps every project to show an immutable public access. ICO's take advantage of ethereum and most of them are existing not because of the future project but to scam people all over the world. Maybe, it helps for the ethereum to move down since they pull down the price of ethereum and many iCO are made in erc20 smart contract.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: marcbitcoins on December 15, 2018, 10:29:04 AM
This is the one of the reasons but the main reason is that the low demand of Altcoins and ICOs in which mostly are using the Ethereum platform. ICOs are failing and Altcoins also are panicking making the transactions using Ethereum gas to become low. If this will continue then expect Ethereum price to reach as low as $50 soon.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Euroda on December 15, 2018, 10:29:14 AM
Yea i do agree to it as well because there is a lot of people who wont buy ethereum due to this but still there are a lot of project that needed help from the ethereum so lets just wait for it to happen once again


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Dacosta Osei-Tutu on December 15, 2018, 10:53:27 AM
I strongly agree with you. These ICO scammers are the main cause of panic and discouragements in crypto. If we minimize scams in crypto. More investors will start investing in crypto.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: mbluxs on December 15, 2018, 10:58:09 AM
Yes, a lot of ICO scams made investors fear, and even the ICO developer team felt fear of selling Ethereum, so now Ethereum has been hit hard, and I think the price of Ethereum will be difficult to recover in the future.
yes very true. Scammers are now smart and can do everything that can scare investment and investors who want to invest in ETH.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Igor.J on December 15, 2018, 11:04:29 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
These are hamsters, which are the majority on the market. And they are diluted by trade bots, so the entire market is now not only suffering from them, because there is no control, but also from the constant backwardness in development.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: mrkavasaki on December 15, 2018, 11:10:03 AM
This is the one of the reasons but the main reason is that the low demand of Altcoins and ICOs in which mostly are using the Ethereum platform. ICOs are failing and Altcoins also are panicking making the transactions using Ethereum gas to become low. If this will continue then expect Ethereum price to reach as low as $50 soon.

I do not think it is the main reason, because according to the information I know by reading the daily newspaper, no ICO scam or any hacker can make a sum of over $ 10 million. That money is too small to affect the price of ETH


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: yohananaomi on December 15, 2018, 12:48:41 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
Your opinion is certainly very convincing to me and it seems that many are trying to make a profit in a way that is not commendable, but it is indeed difficult to be able to resist this method because it can and can happen.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: GermanGiant on December 15, 2018, 01:38:12 PM
This is true, this is why eth prices are destroyed. Because of the easy terms and the absence of clear regulations, many projects launched ICO. And then many fraud projects are offered to investors. So this is what is happening at ETH now.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Autumn.MediaGrp on December 15, 2018, 01:45:03 PM
Scammers get just the small amount of what the circulation has, i dont even think there is alot still getting baited by those things


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Astermony on December 15, 2018, 01:48:42 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
I agree with you because of a bunch of scammers that collecting more ETH from the investors they had scammed and now dumping massively resulting the supply getting bigger that eventually crashing the value.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: LukkasG on December 15, 2018, 02:12:11 PM
Most likely there is some truth here, but I doubt that it is the main reason for falling ETH price. I still blame speculations on the market.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: sends1 on December 15, 2018, 02:17:42 PM
I think like that when scammers get ethereum with a large number of investors then the scammer directly sells it in my opinion very influential. imagine if there were 10 scammers each getting around 30 ETH then they sold it together


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: ramahero01 on December 15, 2018, 02:33:19 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
I agree with you because of a bunch of scammers that collecting more ETH from the investors they had scammed and now dumping massively resulting the supply getting bigger that eventually crashing the value.
maybe your opinion is true because with the many scammers, of course, it will increasingly influence the current crypto price. but the current decline in crypto prices could be one of the strategies of large investors or developers of these tokens to look for profits again in the future and none of them knows the certainty.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: purplemoon on December 15, 2018, 02:40:30 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

I do not think so. Many projects throughout the year have collected a large number of ETH on ICO. This year, everyone began to actively sell it. That's all the reasons. In addition, the market has fallen greatly, regardless of the quality of a particular coin. Prices hit absolutely everything and Ethereum is no exception.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: maaldaz on December 15, 2018, 02:42:16 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
That is indeed one of many things that could affect the price of ETH. With the existence of scammer who utilize any ETH or ETH contract, and then they dump the coins, indirectly they will affect the stability of the price of ETH.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: tisumagic on December 15, 2018, 02:45:02 PM
If the issue of scamming activities continue without any solution,  ICO will die and ethereum reputation may be affected though,  ethereum it's self is not a scam coin but those that scam people's ether will tarnish Ethereum reputation!
and now the ethereum platform has continued to weaken, although I know that ethereum is not a weak coin, but if it continues to be used in ICO scam contracts, it will definitely get worse


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: JCviggen on December 15, 2018, 02:47:37 PM
I strongly agree with you. These ICO scammers are the main cause of panic and discouragements in crypto. If we minimize scams in crypto. More investors will start investing in crypto.
Now the big players are more afraid of not the scammers, but the fact that this sphere has not shown itself yet as a whole. There are more scammers in the fiat world. In cryptocurrencies, it is easier to save your money if you have a lot of them than in real currency


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: mdzahed134 on December 15, 2018, 02:56:31 PM
Exactly also my opinion is eth mainly affected by who guys are working in ico projects. Bullshit projects marketing strategy is critical because they buying paid ico reviews from many big sites like as icobench and icomarks. Please stopped to invest just only seeing reviews without analysis.                 


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: hellyeahent on December 17, 2018, 06:46:49 AM
Quite a strained judgment, since even though they own a fairly solid amount of Ethereum, I think it is not profitable for them that the rate of Ethereum falls. What is the meaning of such actions? They will increase the load on the set and then their work will stop.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: luthvie on December 17, 2018, 06:51:11 AM
yes, reason of the fall of crypto market is because many fake ico and scammer now, who break the reputation of invest in digital asset, and just like now, crypto almost die.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: JeffBrad12 on December 17, 2018, 06:51:38 AM
I strongly agree with you. These ICO scammers are the main cause of panic and discouragements in crypto. If we minimize scams in crypto. More investors will start investing in crypto.
Now the big players are more afraid of not the scammers, but the fact that this sphere has not shown itself yet as a whole. There are more scammers in the fiat world. In cryptocurrencies, it is easier to save your money if you have a lot of them than in real currency
Manipulators should become the main thing that gives a huge contribution to create fear in the cryptocurrency space. I guess you should remember about when the market gets an instant pump. This was even bigger compared to the scammers.
That's indeed scammer will always dump their stolen amount to the market instantly. Scammer is a money whore.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Nggedebus on December 17, 2018, 07:06:18 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
Yes that is one of many reason that makes Ethereum price falling so much. With the easy way to create contract in Ethereum making it so easy for any scammer to run their scamming theme, then dumping all the coins after they get what they wanted and end up making ethereum price falling.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: EducoinVietnam on December 17, 2018, 07:15:57 AM
I agree with your opinion , quite reasonable sounds + like we've seen this spring, when major ICO projects have started to cash out the Ethereum , for fear of losing investments, and diversification .


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: nemesio on December 17, 2018, 08:10:47 AM
I think this is due to the fact that the average level of intelligence of the Ethereum holder is low, which is why they believe every word of Vitalik and easily succumb to and fall for the tricks of scammers. So it is possible that they have a lot of Ethereum at their disposal.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: aces777 on December 18, 2018, 11:45:20 AM
This is true because once you do start to look at how the price of the coins are going down you are going to see that it is because of the scammers selling off the big amounts of coins that they got from doing icos and once that much money leaves the market then it is most definitely going to be affecting the price of ethereum due to the sell off


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: BartS on December 18, 2018, 09:10:45 PM
Yes, a lot of ICO scams made investors fear, and even the ICO developer team felt fear of selling Ethereum, so now Ethereum has been hit hard, and I think the price of Ethereum will be difficult to recover in the future.
The price of ethereum is going to recover but it is not going to be a fast process, everyone that is thinking that is going to happen during the next weeks is very mistaken, it is better to accept the price of ethereum as it is and try to get advantage of it if you can, I am sure that in the future ethereum is going to recover and be the respected coin that everyone remembers but we will need to recover the confidence of the investors something not easy to do during the bear market.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: martina14 on December 18, 2018, 09:12:41 PM
How can a scammer may affect the ETHEREUM price!

A certain wallet was scam and to get it as money for a safety measure!
The scammer will send the ETHEREUM or tokens to an exchange with out any KYC requirements.
Once that happen it can be a good way out for safety. the token will be dump or ethereum.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: bananaunana on December 18, 2018, 09:30:36 PM
Ofcourse a scammer can affect ETH price in a very bad way. Stolen ETH from a scammer can be sold and if it's a lot of ETH, price will dump. But it has to be a very big number of ETH to affect ETH price. Like if a scammers hacks a big exchange.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: jaywizzy on December 18, 2018, 09:48:19 PM
I disagree with that, scammers don't have any influence on price. Price is being control by inventors that invest in huge amount in the project.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Ranly123 on December 18, 2018, 09:57:33 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

I guess you got a point but it's just too simple thing that is done by scammers. Don't you think that the price of all altcoins has the same movement as bitcoins in the market? In other words, scammers effect on the price of such coins is only little compared to what's really happening right now in the crypto world.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: H1N1 on December 19, 2018, 02:27:46 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

I know, that is what fake ICO's doing when they want to steal money from investors.
But for now, i think that is not the cause because the price of other coins than ETH has gone to the bottom too.
Although ETH value is on the bottom now, there are some good ICO's to invest too. If you manage to find it, you can cover your loss with the profit later.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: dawai asmara on December 19, 2018, 03:08:22 AM
I disagree with that, scammers don't have any influence on price. Price is being control by inventors that invest in huge amount in the project.
agree, in my opinion affecting the price of ETH other than Bitcoin is the main asset holder because ETH is affected by existing transactions. so in my opinion scammers do not affect ETH prices. and the decline in ETH prices this time is indeed because of the price of Bitcoin and also many people who sell panic.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: raitsuk on December 19, 2018, 03:11:58 AM
I think indirectly Yes, cause when they finish collecting their money with their created project based on ethereum platform, then they dump the coins, that makes the trust from people to Ethereum platform decreased, cause so many scam project that are using Ethereum platform.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Farahtenan on December 19, 2018, 03:21:45 AM
This is indeed sad, the greed of scammers makes ethereum ugliness fall, but this is the risk if there are many scammers.
We ourselves are also unable to prevent, we know that after they raise funds, it is very worrying.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: passwordnow on December 19, 2018, 03:23:59 AM
How many Ethereum we are talking about here. Scammers have been affecting the market for giving fear to the new and upcoming investors but it didn't really affected the price of ETH.

Large whales are the one who has been giving large impact to eth and other crypto's price.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Otsu on December 19, 2018, 03:54:57 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
I agree. Scammers can really affect the flow of the price of ethereum. They will dump it to the exchange and probably immediately convert it into fiats. Also, they can affect the reputations of bitcoins and all other altcoins in which will possibly lead for all potential investors to have doubts in cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: djuragan on December 19, 2018, 04:31:34 AM
I believe it could, and it will also affect not just Ethereum, every other coins can be affected by the availability of scammer. but since the most project created based on ethereum, then most likely it affect ethereum.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Ostonian on December 19, 2018, 05:39:20 AM
I agree with you. The fraudsters earn ETH by deception, and since it was received completely free of charge, they could sell it below the market price, thus undervaluing its price.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: LDenis555 on December 19, 2018, 06:15:01 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
I think that this assumption is nothing more than our invention, it is how much it is necessary to save ETH to affect the entire market capitalization of ETH. Investors have become more advanced in all matters, so they invest only in promising projects.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Downloaded on December 19, 2018, 08:08:20 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

For me, this may happen due to the fact that many scammers and underground organizations pay for services and steal Ethereum. Although this network is not secure and hidden, but at some point everyone believed in its endless growth.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: nebuch on December 19, 2018, 08:13:36 AM
As a matter of fact, ethereum is widely used in both scam and real ICOs. Ethereum drops because of scammers but I think it is not just a scammers activities. The part of crypto that it is unstable and bitcoin lead the market system, the drops can happen and the pump can happen because of one crypto driver.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: a d i m u l on December 19, 2018, 08:17:53 AM
most likely it is true, with the occurrence of scammers in etherium, some investors are less interested so that the price of etherium in demand decreases.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Btcmarmipp2 on December 19, 2018, 09:22:42 PM
I do believe scammers can affect the Eth price in the market because if they scam a huge eth definitely they will sell it immediately and causing a huge fall down of its value.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Siegtal81 on December 20, 2018, 08:44:01 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

Personally, I do not think that the fall of Ethereum is due to the activity of fraudsters. The main cause of the problem is the general decline in the crypto market, which is why all reliable cryptocurrencies are becoming cheaper. I am sure that the situation will gradually improve from the middle of next year, just need patience.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Pom_bensin on December 20, 2018, 08:48:36 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
that's a statement that is currently happening in the world of ico, nowadays there are so many ico scams and harming many investors so I think that we should be aware and that has become one of the effects of decreasing eth prices.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: kethan on December 20, 2018, 09:00:57 AM
In fact, there is indeed a steady drop in Ethereum prices. I also believe that the activity of the scam negatively affected the prices and the state of Ethereum. But I am sure that the problem will be solved over time due to market regulation and the gradual growth of crypto in the future.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: stefany101 on December 20, 2018, 09:02:54 AM
I think it is ! Investors are being afraid on Ethereum or other projects that are out there because of too much scammers in the crypto industry. There are some ICOs which being contracted with Ethereum platform are scam once they concluded their ICO and got something from the crypto investors. As the time passed by, investors are lacking some interests on investing on crypto projects because of scammers.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: hanxinvwang on December 20, 2018, 09:03:36 AM
You are right, the fraudsters always accumulate a lot of crypto and sell quickly, which leads to a rapid decline in ETH prices.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: xiaoY on December 20, 2018, 09:05:52 AM
Yes, because the number of scammers is amazing, many altcoins are worthless. They are just the capital of the capitalists. The users who bought the altcoins this year have gone bankrupt, so the price of Ethereum will be hit.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: GatotKaca on December 20, 2018, 09:11:27 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
its that true? I am not sure that this is true. if that is true, as if the price has been manipulated. I do not believe prices in the market can be manipulated. because what I know is that crypto is fluctuating where prices can change significantly over time without us knowing it. and that greatly affects the price is supply and demand


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: markalis on December 20, 2018, 09:13:14 AM
I think the decline in ethereum prices is due to investor fears of fake projects that use a lot of their platforms, and many developers are selling big amounts of eth that they have


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: suryogandul on December 20, 2018, 09:22:34 AM
Are there really many weaknesses found in the unique smart contract of ethereum platform? and there is the latest news that ethereum miners is the target of hackers, if that is true then ethereum must make big changes


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: vasilisc555 on December 20, 2018, 11:39:34 AM
An interesting theory, but most likely I think that the ethereum is being dumped by all companies in order to save funding for their projects.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: hesham51 on December 20, 2018, 01:39:03 PM
I agree with you, the scams projects is a part of ETHEREUM problems, I think they need to control the collected funds where to release the funds based on the road map phases.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Hudora on December 21, 2018, 07:42:27 AM
I do not think that fraudsters have such goals. The high price of Ethereum is also important for them. The problem is simply caused by the general fall in the crypto market, now all the coins are beginning to rapidly fall. But I am fully convinced that gradually the price will stabilize and begin to rise in price, you just need to be patient.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: elisabetheva on December 21, 2018, 09:37:49 AM
That may indeed be one that also affects the fall of ethereum, but many aspects and problems can also influence, because this is trade and all possibilities can occur, not only for one reason, although it may be the main


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: sgenuine on December 21, 2018, 11:49:20 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

Do you really think that only scammers can affect the whole market? Why are forgetting about big rich people and some corporations that may have a lot of ETH coins, they may affect on the crypto too


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Delima Manis on December 21, 2018, 12:24:07 PM
not only ethereum, but this scammer also affects all crypto, many scam cases make the crypto image worse and many people look negatively at crypto.
A scam fosters fear in everyone, but after all it's not just a scam that makes crypto images worse


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Docbee on December 21, 2018, 12:54:28 PM
Scammer can affect the fall of etherereum because they can sell at outrageous price, whatever you don't work for can be mismanaged anyhow, the effect of scammers on price is not much compare to ico selling off converting collected eth to fiat.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: thaliaand on December 21, 2018, 01:25:40 PM
I think scammers have an impact on eth prices, but it is not significant and only in a short period of time especially when they managed to raise funds from investors in the form of eth or other crypto. And then sell it as soon as possible at a low price, which allows a temporary dump in the market. But on a marketcap, I don't think it's caused by a scammer factor.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: TamaraKul on December 24, 2018, 11:30:04 AM
I am sure that there are many reasons for the general fall in Ethereum prices. This includes the poor state of the crypto market, manipulation attempts and fraud activities. But I am sure that over time the situation will improve after the recovery of the crypto market and the emergence of regulatory methods, protecting investors from the activity of fraudsters.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: babyxxbaby on December 25, 2018, 11:52:15 AM
I can say that this is one of the main reasons but it is not the main one. From this reason, a huge share of speculation in the cryptocurrency market follows. After all, ETH was produced by scammers. Once projects receive investment, the founders ICO missing data and produce a huge pouring ETH on exchange. Therefore, the price of ETH decreases.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: ElenaN on December 25, 2018, 12:00:34 PM
So. Fraudulent projects just to collect money because when they sell the collected funds, the price of Eth from falling!


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: cupruri on December 25, 2018, 12:23:30 PM
I think the main reason for the Eth fall was that almost all ICO projects were fixing their profit in fiat money. That caused the price drop. The second reason is that the whole market was falling and Ethereum simply followed the trend.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: EXtremeAEX on December 25, 2018, 01:29:28 PM
Unfortunately, there are scam projects and they are bad for cryptocurrencies and the crypto market. Such projects undermine investor confidence, which in the future no longer want to link their finances with cryptocurrencies. Also the problem is what you described above. Having collected a sufficient amount of ether, scam projects simply dump it back onto the market, thereby pushing the price of ether down.
Such projects unambiguously cause great damage, so this is exactly the area of ​​crypto relationships where regulation is necessary. Projects must comply with certain standards and be accountable to investors and the crypto community in accordance with established laws.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Prettymie on December 25, 2018, 01:41:12 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
It needs a huge amount of ETH before we can see the price will dumps and I don't think that the real reason of dumping are those scammers. The main reason of price dumping are those whales who manipulates the market and they will do to control the ETH price at their comfortable prices. Look at how huge the money needed to bring-up the price of ETH from $80 to $140. Panic sellers might be a factor as they will sell without thinking of the market price as long as they will sell and buy back at lower price.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Asgard124 on December 25, 2018, 02:04:16 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
I agree with this. This have been the case with Ethereum and part of the reasons why Ether keep falling in price. It is one of the most used coin during ICO'S and this day most projects are of scam. So they sell off their Ethereum almost immediately without Mercy.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Asgard124 on December 25, 2018, 02:05:37 PM
So. Fraudulent projects just to collect money because when they sell the collected funds, the price of Eth from falling!
Many a project embark on this just to scam Investors and sell off their Ethereum at any price suitable to them. I hope this stop as soon as possible though.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Ryananda on December 25, 2018, 02:33:48 PM
I agree with your opinion so that many investors no longer believe in the ico project whose concept is good and the team is clear, hopefully the scammer can be cleaned up immediately to restore investor confidence.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Aleksei Hurskiy on December 25, 2018, 02:53:55 PM
Of course, they can affect the price, but for this they need a lot to sell ETH. There are a lot of such projects, so I think that it is necessary to regulate the ICO


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Script3d on December 25, 2018, 02:56:18 PM
I don't think they can move the market with their funds, i don't think it's enough, i wouldn't be worry that much only whales can bring down the market and no one else, a single scammer wouldn't be able to do anything to the market.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: saycryptohello on December 25, 2018, 02:59:18 PM
if they conducted collections in ethereum and then they quickly sell all the funds raised, thereby creating a bad effect on the market


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Benarand on December 25, 2018, 03:16:36 PM
For example, another story.
From a purse or exchange ETH is stolen. In order to quickly make a profit, scammers urgently sell it at a price lower than the market price.
And so the price falls on the ETH.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: EXtremeAEX on December 26, 2018, 01:33:21 PM
I don't think they can move the market with their funds, i don't think it's enough, i wouldn't be worry that much only whales can bring down the market and no one else, a single scammer wouldn't be able to do anything to the market.
Everything is not as rosy as you imagine. Recall, at least, the EOS, which periodically sells its 400k eth, thereby affecting the exchange rate of the currency itself. Yes, as for the EOS, we are dealing with a competitor of the eth, who is really interested in this, but it still clearly shows how such a sale affects the currency exchange rate.
Now imagine that in the conditions of the market, with small volumes of trades (as we have seen recently), some kind of scam project will sell at least 2-5k ether. And you think it will not affect the course of the eth? You are wrong.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Alliipp on December 26, 2018, 01:44:18 PM
in my opinion right, when scammers become the topic of conversation, the etheriun is getting more and more down. and this is also supported by the weakening etherium prices so many people panic sell.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Valer4ik on December 26, 2018, 02:06:05 PM
Against the course of Ether, the factor is that all ICO projects have accumulated it and now they pour it (and will merge further) in order to have Fiat on their current activities, payment of servers, staff salaries, etc.

Plus, the mass of small Mummy miners are constantly selling naminoennoe the little things. Both do not contribute to price increases.

Yes, Acne continues to “crush tits”, all postponing and postponing vital network updates to increase transaction speed and scaling, for now the Ether Network does not have a safety margin for capacity and speed in its current position.

 

Ripl has neither the one nor the other, nor the third lack.

It is not used as fuel for ICO.

Miners do not drain it, because it is not mine. Initially it was printed in the system of almost 100 billion coins, almost all.

In terms of speed, it is already faster than almost all other cryptocurrencies (1500 transactions per second against 20 Ethereum, that is, 75 times more).

 

The shortcomings of Ripla are known to everyone - the high centralization and “pig nose” of fiat bank capital, which there is clearly hiding under a fine cryptocurrency physiognomy.

And in general, Ripple is essentially not a cryptocurrency, but a sort of payment gateway system, a cryptographic payment system that has cryptotoken instead of shares.

 

Judging by the last months on the market, all these shortcomings have ceased to particularly scare the cryptocurrency community. And for institutional corporate investors, this is not a disadvantage at all.

The authorities, too, will only be happy to arrange a full rectal examination of as many people as possible who drive payments through the network in order to avoid tax evasion.

 

So Wang, that Ripple is now in second place sat down seriously and for a long time.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: KryptoKai on December 26, 2018, 02:12:29 PM
I don't think they can move the market with their funds, i don't think it's enough, i wouldn't be worry that much only whales can bring down the market and no one else, a single scammer wouldn't be able to do anything to the market.
Everything is not as rosy as you imagine. Recall, at least, the EOS, which periodically sells its 400k eth, thereby affecting the exchange rate of the currency itself. Yes, as for the EOS, we are dealing with a competitor of the eth, who is really interested in this, but it still clearly shows how such a sale affects the currency exchange rate.
Now imagine that in the conditions of the market, with small volumes of trades (as we have seen recently), some kind of scam project will sell at least 2-5k ether. And you think it will not affect the course of the eth? You are wrong.

EOS is simply waiting for the right time before dumping ethereum out of the market. EOS doesn't have a usable product yet, but when it does and becomes close to toppling ethereum they will dump all their holdings of ETH and sideline them down the shitcoin market


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: kalkaiina on December 27, 2018, 09:31:38 AM
First of all, eth itself is to blame for such a deep collapse in cost. After all, the problems of the scam projects have been going on for quite some time, the project could make mandatory smart contracts with the return of funds within a few months.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: various on December 27, 2018, 09:43:43 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

Not only to ethereum, but indirectly, fake icos are giving great damage to the market also. You are right but unfortunately there is nothing to do. As long as we do no get rid of scammer, confidence in the market will decrease.



Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: cctv0 on December 29, 2018, 09:22:23 AM
I very much agree with you that Ethereum is a very good coin, but due to too many fraudulent projects, Ethereum's token has been greatly devalued. The ICO of 2018 was cruel, and many investors invested in ICO bankruptcy.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: BruceJu on December 29, 2018, 09:26:08 AM
Obviously, fraudsters can influence the price of ETH because they always sell the crypto collected during the ICO phase in exchange for legal tender, which will cause the price of Ethereum to fall.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: ghost07 on December 29, 2018, 09:27:10 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
yes there are lot of scammers now thats why the price of ethereum falls down so fast lot of investors sells/quit in crypto because of bad expirience.
but some people just sell their coins as emergency funds.
what will be our way to eliminate scammers in some sites.
hackers also affects the price of ethereum and other crypto currency.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: acheampong64 on December 29, 2018, 09:27:49 AM
What you're saying is true. The ICO boom really made scammers get away with huge amounts of dollars and that was catalysed by the ETH smart contract feature. Anyway we hope for a better time ahead of this turbulence were facing. We hope Bitcoin gets back to its feet, followed by ETH and other major ALTs and then the whole space.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Saisher on December 29, 2018, 09:40:39 AM
This is what really happening, with so many ICO around and if three or four ICO started dumping their ETH and Bitcoin it will surely have an impact on the price of Eth and Bitcoin, they seem to don't care if the price goes down, they are very irresponsible, they should be the one supporting Eth because it is a platform where their coin was created.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: thesmallgod on December 29, 2018, 09:44:00 AM
The influence of scammer on price of crypto is very huge. they bring bad news that make people to lose interest in investing in crypto


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: NaXxow on December 29, 2018, 09:52:41 AM
Everyone has a point but also, do not forget massive sell-off  the ETH. Some of big projects that are ERC20 based tokens are also did their own mainnet. Such competition are both healthy and bad for the ecosystem.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: mariah.sadio on December 29, 2018, 09:22:19 PM
I hate those scams because transactions with ethereum are getting fewer because of it. As sn effect, its price is getting low. People are becoming afraid of transacting with eth because of the scams.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Biscutard on December 29, 2018, 11:02:04 PM
First of all, eth itself is to blame for such a deep collapse in cost. After all, the problems of the scam projects have been going on for quite some time, the project could make mandatory smart contracts with the return of funds within a few months.
Sadly, some of these ICOs are not returning any funds from the investors who they have scammed. That's why it makes ETH worse when scams started because investors couldn't do anything except of reporting the scammers to tag them with painted colors of red.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Gab20 on December 29, 2018, 11:12:44 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
This is an undeniable fact and which is true. That is more reason the platform of ETH will be reviewed. If the Ethereum 2.0 finally comes up, all this lapses will be eliminated and there will not be room for scammers.
There have been several scam projects of ethereum platform. Although it is not limited to Ethereum some, but because its platform is the most used for ICOs and the likes.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: RareFortune on December 29, 2018, 11:15:19 PM
I do believe that those scammers has some impact on the current ETH price but the problem is people or investors still getting scammed so I guess this might stop if we all become very picky on every investment and stay out with these scammers.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: powerman24 on December 29, 2018, 11:22:03 PM
Last year, during the hype ICOs were rising like mushrooms and they influenced the price of the ETH positively. This year it has turned out that many of them are fake or scam projects and that also effected ETH but on a negative way.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: creeps on December 29, 2018, 11:28:58 PM
Obviously, fraudsters can influence the price of ETH because they always sell the crypto collected during the ICO phase in exchange for legal tender, which will cause the price of Ethereum to fall.
Not just ETH but I think the whole market. Hackers are one of the problem of cryptomarket and its hard to stop them from doing that, because of this the trust of investors on cryptocurrency is declining and that can lead to a price drop of ETH, BTC and other altcoins. ICO’s are still suffering from this trust issue, but hopefully they can survive in 2019, so they can have more technologies to offer great services to us.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: BartS on January 02, 2019, 10:30:04 PM
For example, another story.
From a purse or exchange ETH is stolen. In order to quickly make a profit, scammers urgently sell it at a price lower than the market price.
And so the price falls on the ETH.
The amount of ethereum stolen will need to have to be huge in order to make the price of ethereum to go down, so that is not really a good example, what causes the price of ethereum to go down over the long term is that as scammers become a greater part of the community people begin to lose confidence in ethereum and despite its great technology no coin can survive if it doesn't have the confidence of the people that use that coin.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: irsada on January 02, 2019, 11:17:32 PM
I agree with your words that scamers can affect the price of ETH.
for me they are only people who don't care about crypto at all, after they successfully trick investors, they will immediately replace it with fiat money no matter how much the price.
therefore we must be more careful when we want to invest in the ICO because not only ETH is lost, but the price of ETH will also fall.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: SabrinaBianka on January 03, 2019, 06:52:03 AM
Obviously, fraudsters can influence the price of ETH because they always sell the crypto collected during the ICO phase in exchange for legal tender, which will cause the price of Ethereum to fall.
Not just ETH but I think the whole market. Hackers are one of the problem of cryptomarket and its hard to stop them from doing that, because of this the trust of investors on cryptocurrency is declining and that can lead to a price drop of ETH, BTC and other altcoins. ICO’s are still suffering from this trust issue, but hopefully they can survive in 2019, so they can have more technologies to offer great services to us.
You're also correct. Most of the reason is because of the scammers everywhere. I also afraid now to invest on ICO. But we need to handled our faith to stay on this place if you don't have this faiths. You will be not stay longer here with a lot of money lose.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Outlander on January 03, 2019, 12:24:28 PM
There are so many ICO projects that are scamming now, we can't stop them, but you can tell people around you to be cautious about making investments.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Ambers on January 03, 2019, 12:53:17 PM
I think that the theory put forward by the author of the topic sounds a bit naive, but since we do not know exactly what is happening on the other side of the curtain, we cannot say with certainty whether this is so or not. In reality, I think everything is much more complicated than what the author of the topic says.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Specimen on January 03, 2019, 01:09:38 PM
not only has an impact on ethereum, SCAM gives crypto a bad image, so many have left the crypto world and as a result of all that has a bad effect on Bitcoin & Altcoin. although there are still other factors that affect the altcoin.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: PlusOne88 on January 03, 2019, 01:17:31 PM
Yes I am thinking the same. When people use the technology just to scam people, it is giving just fear to a would be investor and because there would be victims, they would certainly feel that it is not worth investing to go with coins that are a nest to the scammers. Instead of the good side of the technology that should be seen by the people, only the negative things are seen which could cause a FUD. So I believe they should be stopped, traced and jailed because they are doing any good to any coin or project and they are affecting price values.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Clark05 on January 03, 2019, 01:23:37 PM
Those scam ICo because for sure they will sell their ethereum that collected to the investor. Because for sure the scammer will use the money of the investor for their needs and run all money. We hope the scammer will become tried and retired of bad habits.

Lets be smart every single investment that we made so we can't lose our money and it will grow and we can buy anything we wants not the scammer.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: owlman on January 03, 2019, 01:34:45 PM
Of course, if you sell a large amount of ETH - this will affect the decline in demand and lower prices. As practice shows, not only scammers can sell ETH, there are many other projects that need cash and they have to sell some savings in Ethereum.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Gudhal Untu on January 03, 2019, 01:46:34 PM
Of course, a scammer certainly has a big effect on ethereum, but the effect given is negative and makes ethereum drop prices, because I'm sure they will immediately exchange to fiat after getting ethereum.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: ipsec on January 04, 2019, 07:31:03 AM
Now I see that ETH is beginning to confidently go up. ICO projects has not become less so the reason I think is not this. The reason is that the developers do not properly dispose of the received investments.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Dannev on January 05, 2019, 10:13:35 AM
Any investor who allows scammers to get through to them is not grounded in the crypto business. If you have funds to invest, there's research to do in order to ascertain and keep away from scammers.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Black Angel on January 05, 2019, 10:24:44 AM
I am sure that scammers do not have the courage to hold the coins they get in a long time, they immediately exchange to the dollar so as to make a market drop, especially ethereum that we easily sell so they are scammers who become the killer of the crypto industry.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: ivannalog814 on January 05, 2019, 11:00:39 AM
Maybe it was before but not now. Now people have become more experienced and not as trusting as before. Especially now on the Internet, I often notice that such projects make reviews and explain why you do not need to invest in this project.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: maculeth on January 06, 2019, 02:35:20 AM
I know what you mean is fake ico, where ico uses smart eth contracts and makes an interesting project concept to get investors to start providing funds. I don't think it has a big effect, because while the token hasn't been launched to the exchanger, then their tokens can't be converted to eth.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Alucard2425 on January 06, 2019, 03:14:02 AM
I agree in scammers has made a great impact in the price of ETH and other crypto, I think the main problem in the one who had been scammed are the ones who are not making their homework first before they go inside the world of crypto, I think the best way to be safe and wise on the crypto, is to know what are the consequences, risk and problem you might encounter in the road of crypto ;)


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: giletto on January 06, 2019, 03:22:36 AM
I know what you mean is fake ico, where ico uses smart eth contracts and makes an interesting project concept to get investors to start providing funds. I don't think it has a big effect, because while the token hasn't been launched to the exchanger, then their tokens can't be converted to eth.
Agree with you, the main reason is successful ICOs. They were the ones who caused the price of ETH to collapse when all dumping problems developed their projects. Those ICO scam don't hold too much ETH so they can't make ETH collapse


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Naficopa on January 06, 2019, 03:29:27 AM
I think that we have nothing to fear. Recently, scam ICOs are quite quickly recognizable and do not collect significant amounts of money. I think that the problems related to the drop in ETH prices, due to the realization of funds collected in ICO projects, ended with the bear market and the end of 2018. I think that 2019 will be very successful for the price of ETH, as well as for ICO projects .. For sure will be better than 2018.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: NaXxow on January 06, 2019, 03:40:00 AM
Ethereum price is affected mainly by ICOs. If the ICOs turned into scam, yes in will affect the ETH price if the percentage of claimed ETH is large. Some of ICOs are collecting Million Dollar worth of coins during sale, majority of it are turning into a worthless upto scam ICOs. Those people earned money will definitely cashing out easy money for personal use. That is why Ethereum is having hard time to recover.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Meryn on January 06, 2019, 03:42:15 AM
the decline in eth prices is not affected by a scammer. they only cheat investors. and does not affect market prices at all. the decrease in eth prices or all altcoins, only influenced by bitcoin or some negative news.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: truongdhnh on January 09, 2019, 11:20:30 AM
I agree with the view that people who hold a lot of ETH and they sell in bulk will make ETH decrease. Besides Bitcoin also contributes to ETH and other coins falling in price. On the other side of the crypto, the market is degraded after a period of high price increases.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: isen on January 09, 2019, 11:30:34 AM
Also, the price fell due to the fall in the Bitcoin price, as a result a chain reaction began during which some of the major holders of the ether sold large volumes of their ETH.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: debby070 on January 09, 2019, 12:17:04 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

Well, if no one will going to ever support the ETH, it will going to lose its reputation and eventually affect the price. Well, Scam ICO's do really affects also to the reputation of ethereum as it has created the smartcontract.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Ziskinberg on January 09, 2019, 01:00:19 PM
Scammers are already here before and they do not only focus with ETH so I don't blame them on what happen with ETH.
The real reason why ETH is down is because bitcoin is down and as it's the most dominant coin in the crypto market, as a result, it will drive all the altcoins down. We saw some altcoins which increases its value but it's only temporary and it will not prosper without the support of bitcoin. Mark my word, once bitcoin begins to be bullish, altcoins will rise especially ETH, and even shitcoins has a chance to rise as well.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: goaldigger on January 09, 2019, 01:20:53 PM
This actually can happen and maybe youre right that it is really affects ETH price. People will do anything just to have money and cryptocurrency is not safe with it. Even the scammers adopt on our modern currency and they now use it as a tool to get easy money from innocent people.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: rapsa2018 on January 13, 2019, 08:35:56 AM
Scammers are already here before and they do not only focus with ETH so I don't blame them on what happen with ETH.
The real reason why ETH is down is because bitcoin is down and as it's the most dominant coin in the crypto market, as a result, it will drive all the altcoins down. We saw some altcoins which increases its value but it's only temporary and it will not prosper without the support of bitcoin. Mark my word, once bitcoin begins to be bullish, altcoins will rise especially ETH, and even shitcoins has a chance to rise as well.

Maybe that is the point to bitcoin get dropped so ethereum price's also drops its price so some people recognize don't know what happen so that they saying scammers, fault so price dumps out.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: juchin on January 13, 2019, 09:26:02 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

What you are saying is right but not only with Ethereum, but also for whole market when the scam situation still happens rampant. The best way for everyone is to improve knowledge and wariness to restrict fraud


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Kawshies on January 13, 2019, 09:42:59 AM
I guess it's gonna take a little bit to the ethereum price down. Some investors are now more careful to invest their money. Because the investors would be smarter to avoid the project scam.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: zhengqi on January 13, 2019, 11:33:35 AM
Yes, I think that may well be so. However, it is unlikely that the scammers are aiming to destroy Ethereum in this way. They probably just want to make a profit and they do not care what will happen to the coin.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: trash321 on January 13, 2019, 12:03:20 PM
Scammers can really influence people, and it is precisely the actions of the campaign that are very much outraged because investors' money leaves the market. It's sad to understand this, but this is a big problem today.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: JohnMacZeppelin on January 15, 2019, 07:03:34 PM
If the scammers who today could still collect a huge amount of cryptocurrencies still today can put pressure on the market, this is true. But no matter how it all sounds, the market still has much more serious problems than scammers. The problem is whether the world needs it at all.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: BartS on January 17, 2019, 09:47:16 PM
I agree with the view that people who hold a lot of ETH and they sell in bulk will make ETH decrease. Besides Bitcoin also contributes to ETH and other coins falling in price. On the other side of the crypto, the market is degraded after a period of high price increases.
If a whale that is holding ETH begins to sell then it is clear that such an action will reduce the price of ethereum but the amount of ethereum will need to be huge for that to happen and most people do not have that kind of money so most of what we do does not effect the market at all so I will not worry about such a thing, what we need to worry is about whether or not ethereum can maintain its price now that the hard fork will not happen.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: EXtremeAEX on January 18, 2019, 06:57:24 PM
I don't think they can move the market with their funds, i don't think it's enough, i wouldn't be worry that much only whales can bring down the market and no one else, a single scammer wouldn't be able to do anything to the market.
Everything is not as rosy as you imagine. Recall, at least, the EOS, which periodically sells its 400k eth, thereby affecting the exchange rate of the currency itself. Yes, as for the EOS, we are dealing with a competitor of the eth, who is really interested in this, but it still clearly shows how such a sale affects the currency exchange rate.
Now imagine that in the conditions of the market, with small volumes of trades (as we have seen recently), some kind of scam project will sell at least 2-5k ether. And you think it will not affect the course of the eth? You are wrong.

EOS is simply waiting for the right time before dumping ethereum out of the market. EOS doesn't have a usable product yet, but when it does and becomes close to toppling ethereum they will dump all their holdings of ETH and sideline them down the shitcoin market

I think that the EOS can't take the place of the ether. Even when their product will be ready and they will throw off all their ether, the maximum that they can do is dump the course of the ether. I'm also sure that the ether team is smart enough to prevent this event from destroying it. I think that in the near future some kind of protective measures will be taken for this.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: lornadane on January 18, 2019, 07:35:37 PM
I agree with you. Scammer can affect the ETH price. Ethereum contract system is very developed but it is very easy to make new Token on the Ethereum platform. So, many scammers taking a chance to scam newbie people and by doing that ETH price can decrease!  Therefore, it is very hard to realize which project is going to be scam. I will not forget Hashcard and Ubonium names! They looked very real but they scam 24 millions USD and ETH price affected for that!


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: apitico on January 18, 2019, 09:00:41 PM
In principle, this is the picture we have seen the whole of 2018, as such fraudulent projects were very many, but of course the goal was not to lower the cost of Ethereum.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: DeKingCrypto on January 18, 2019, 09:03:23 PM
I will a yes to this topic, if scammers steal some huge amount of Ethereum, and the scammers wish to sell them off at the same time, it will affect the price of Ethereum.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: cryptobae10 on January 18, 2019, 09:07:49 PM
Scammers and fake ico may appear as an excuse for the dump in etherum price
But they are not entirely at fault

Scammers can only cause a sudden blip in price and not a consistent dump
As experienced with etherum


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Gryphet on January 18, 2019, 09:09:02 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
Well, of course there are scammers , but I also think investors still more , I think that in a small part they can affect the price of eth, I think the investor every day is increased!


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: dosSantos on January 18, 2019, 09:13:00 PM
I do not think that someone can have a great influence on the price of such a popular coin. It seems to me that the price of a coin is related to the overall ratio of supply and demand.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: mr.robot8 on January 18, 2019, 09:15:29 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
in my opinion it is true only partially, yes many ico are scam and perhaps they do so however the low value of eth is also given by the low values ​​of the market and the poor volumes


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Rob768 on January 18, 2019, 10:38:06 PM
There are a lot of people who try to manipulate Ethereum. From cryptofunds to famouse investors. Everybody wants to make good predictions and earn on them. Sometimes these guys lie to their community to dump ethereum.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: newdevices on January 18, 2019, 10:57:47 PM
indeed there may be some people who manipulate ethereum prices, I think scammers are one of the things that affect ethereum's market capitalization, because surely after cheating they will sell a lot of ethereum they have and result in a decrease in ethereum prices


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: jan.nicolas on January 20, 2019, 03:40:35 PM
I think that only the amount of ETH that they received by the Scammers is why it is the only way they can lower prices for ETH, because they will sell at once in large quantities.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: poodle63 on January 20, 2019, 04:14:41 PM
I think that only the amount of ETH that they received by the Scammers is why it is the only way they can lower prices for ETH, because they will sell at once in large quantities.
And if the market was not having a lot of support in the market and then that could affect the price of ethereum but they are choosing the exchange site which having a large volumes to liquidate their money instantly.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: gowobonyok on January 22, 2019, 08:25:34 AM
it still often happens because their leaders want big profits by deceiving many people and that has a little impact. because if the token cannot be converted to etherum, I think it has not had a big impact on the etherum market.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: marjil on January 22, 2019, 08:41:32 AM
Unfortunately when we get people doing scams in the crypto space we see that often the price of ETH and actually other coins too will fall. This is a symptom of what happens in the markets when there are scams.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Dacosta Osei-Tutu on January 22, 2019, 09:15:06 AM
I think scammers in a way affect the price of ETH but not by selling the accumulated funds generated from the scam ICO. The investors who are scammed tend to fear investing in crypto again which decreases their demand and hence causes a dump in it's price.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Fire Rabbit on January 22, 2019, 09:16:22 AM
Its true that ETH price falls when ICOs sell their ether in market. But we cannot blame them because to
kick start the project they need to convert crypto into fiat money.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: voron83-05 on January 22, 2019, 09:57:32 AM
That's right, many scammers took advantage of the Ethereum platform capabilities, after which the coin began to feel unsure about the market!


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: esetop01tryba on January 22, 2019, 10:03:56 AM
It may have been difficult to identify scammers before, but now it is easy to do so as investors choose projects very carefully, not so before when the market was stable. The main thing I think in the project is opening a team of project developers who are constantly in touch and shows their faces. I don't think the scammers will be able to influence the price of ETH as they collect very little money.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Ss4sukE on January 22, 2019, 10:11:07 AM
I think the rise and fall of ETH prices has a greater impact on demand in the market, if this scamer only affects investor confidence in the sense that when the ico project that uses the ETH platform ends with this SCAM that makes investor confidence lost.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Sundaey on January 22, 2019, 10:24:04 AM
There are a lot of reasons behind etherum dump, but you are right about the scammers they are the major reasons behind the dumping started from last year. A lot of ico make a lot during the ico shit but hopping for a rise in price but their mate are busy dumping theirs so they joined them, hunters also dump same as investors and everyone who can't wait.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: ATSgrowth on January 22, 2019, 10:30:03 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

That is true.
There are two type of scammers.

1) ICOs that collected enough Ethers from investors and after fake ICO sale they dump their collected Ethers.
2) Scam forks, like Ethereum Nowa, Ethereum Classic Vision that are stealing private keys from Ether holders.

They have enough Ethers to dump the market. Drop from 14000USD to 100USD was caused mainly by ICOs ;).


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: vasilisc555 on January 22, 2019, 11:23:30 AM
It seems to me impossible. For in order to crank up such a manipulation to a scammer, a lot of ethereum will be needed to at least influence the course.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Felic43 on January 22, 2019, 11:33:52 AM
You are absolutely right i being hearing alot of scamming im ethereum and is now i see it affecting the price and people are dumping it .


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: mirawantirinjana on January 22, 2019, 11:45:41 AM
of course this has a great effect, some scammers have a very large effect on changes in ethereum prices, although many scammers also cause ethereum prices to change.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: ereborltc on January 22, 2019, 12:30:25 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
In 2018, a vicious circle has formed, and many project parties immediately sell ETH after raising funds.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: CAPT.DEADPOOL on January 22, 2019, 12:56:32 PM
I think the effects of false news or promotion promotions that have taken the name of eth can affect this price because the holders and investors in the ethos may lose confidence but it depends if other people will or make a word that is not true of eth and one thing I know is why the fall and price of ethanol is in our mind that the bitcoi price increases all the coinmarket coin and when the price of bitcoin falls all the coinmarket coin prices and other people here believe in ethical news releases that have a new update eth it is eth v.2 called so many many wonder this new news so much The research and many reviews of this project and the review period on that project have discovered that the new update is a fake or scam.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: dmcx on January 22, 2019, 01:02:39 PM
I think that only the amount of ETH that they received by the Scammers is why it is the only way they can lower prices for ETH, because they will sell at once in large quantities.

This is very likely with an immediate potential currency that has been targeted by many scammers and with their purchasing power and impact on Ethereum's price is still a slight increase, not yet seen. any good sign is too high from ETH  ::)


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: distr@yopmail.com on January 22, 2019, 01:06:13 PM
This is very likely with an immediate potential currency that has been targeted by many scammers and with their purchasing power and impact on Ethereum's price is still a slight increase, not yet seen. any good sign is too high from ETH  ::)
the effect of the scammer is not only on ethereum prices, we can see, this situation affects the overall crypto market condition. the market does not move much, but there is little trading volume and does not increase significantly. this will be very difficult for the crypto market growth.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: kumar jabodah on January 22, 2019, 01:14:28 PM
Ethereum, the second biggest cryptocurrency in the market was one of the most affected coins in the market when compared to all the other cryptocurrencies. The main reason is believed to be the sale of ETH by ICOs. Some believe that Ethereum has become the graveyard for ICOs and scams. In addition, most of the traders have already started to short their ETH with a belief that it is going to be under the bearish dejected growth for some more time.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: BartS on January 31, 2019, 10:29:24 PM
In principle, this is the picture we have seen the whole of 2018, as such fraudulent projects were very many, but of course the goal was not to lower the cost of Ethereum.

The main way in which fraudulent projects have affected the price of ethereum comes from the fact that many people are no longer investing in icos because they do not trust in them, which is completely understandable taking into account the huge amount of scams that we see in the forum, so people are not buying as much ethereum as they did before and with less demand comes a lower price.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Gypsy.Danger on February 01, 2019, 08:56:58 PM
I agree to you. Because the stolen coins from the hackers, especially big amount of coins, they would exchange it immediately to a low price, causing more panic selling price on the exchange.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: yescrypto on February 01, 2019, 09:28:09 PM
Sure, scammers really after anything good they lay their fingers on, scam has affected all crypto generally and not etherum only but the amount of etherum being accumulated as scam is quite wide than the rest because of the ico tied to it..


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Invigorated on February 01, 2019, 09:29:59 PM
Of course they can and not only Ethereum. Scammers can affect the price of any other token. That's because their acts cause a loss in the confidence of investors which in turn lead to withdrawal of investments and ultimately leading to a collapse in prices.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: JohnMacZeppelin on February 09, 2019, 04:12:04 PM
I will not argue with this, I think that here it is only necessary to agree with this, because most of the ETH coins that were earned by scammers today were simply sold and brought prices down.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: o.ogurlu on February 09, 2019, 04:25:59 PM
Yeah, I think scammers can influence the price of Ethereum. But I do not think that this effect can be very large. I think the main reason why the Ethereum price is so fall is the big investors. In particular, I think that the negative news about Vitalik Buterin in the world has caused the large investors to sell Ethereum which they have.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: ibrahim160994 on February 09, 2019, 05:08:15 PM
The information you provide is true, but at this time many investors are diverting their investments to the ico program that they believe will be profitable


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: kramchers on February 09, 2019, 05:11:17 PM
1. ETH is being used to an ICO and investment.
2. fast transaction and speed is accurate
3. once an investment is an ERC-20 then there is no problem.
4. let them be the judge!


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Red_Evil on February 09, 2019, 05:19:35 PM
I will not argue with this, I think that here it is only necessary to agree with this, because most of the ETH coins that were earned by scammers today were simply sold and brought prices down.
that's right, the impact of the scammer also affects the price of ethereum because the form of investment they receive is ethereum so that after being taken away all the funds collected will be sold, and that's what makes ethereum prices go down.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: nizamcc on February 09, 2019, 07:00:49 PM
I'm sure the aether lost its price because of the huge number of sales. A lot of ICO projects could not Finance themselves. Therefore, they had to sell part of their broadcast to ensure further work. And it wasn't the scammers.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: chriseasan on February 09, 2019, 07:05:08 PM
I think that the main reason of the Ether fall was that ICO projects were fixing their profits and when all ICOs are selling a huge wall of 100k Ether it effects the price for sure. Ether will recover without any doubts.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Skroojee on February 09, 2019, 10:53:28 PM
One such fraudster will not greatly affect the total cost of Ethereum, but when there are a lot of such fraudulent ICOS, as it was in 2018, then the price of Ethereum will certainly fall.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Classica35 on February 09, 2019, 11:59:25 PM
Most times, since scammers didn't get the coins they acquire in legit ways, they tend to use or sell as they like.
Not only those who scam during ICOs dump coins, most especially ethereum on exchange, hackers are also guilty of this. Which is why we always see huge dump in price. Also the reason why ethereum is seen to be volatile.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: mersal on February 10, 2019, 01:22:01 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
I will definitely I accept your statement ethereum will definitely be a big problem for development of any cryptocurrency especially when the market cap of it's going to be not your valuable currency so this make ETH to be going down again and again if we reduce the stamps then only we get the previous development of ETH.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: karagun125 on February 10, 2019, 01:26:21 AM
I think this has thread is fact. Because ethereum price value may be affected it scammers continue to use smart contracts, and also a factor of price decrease if many would sell ethereum in the market with big volume.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Ipwich on February 10, 2019, 02:59:54 AM
I think this has thread is fact. Because ethereum price value may be affected it scammers continue to use smart contracts, and also a factor of price decrease if many would sell ethereum in the market with big volume.
ETH has a big market, it could affect but only in a slight manner.
Scams are everywhere, no one can stop them but what really affects the price is those who use it's platform and in the end
of the day they dump their tokens, even legit project has also a tendency to dump their coins, this is inevitable.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Alucard2425 on February 10, 2019, 03:10:56 AM
I believe also this is the main reason why ETH and other cryptocurrencies price are going down they loosing trust in cryptocurrencies and additonal on that even HACKING incidents affect the price of  cryptocurrencies also. I hope someday they can solve this issues and im sure cryptocurrencies will rule the wold ;)


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Pffrt on February 10, 2019, 03:13:34 AM
Why an investor will be impressed without a solid project. If you do enough research, no one can deceit you with a fake project. We should not inveat our money without proper research.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: aokiji06 on February 10, 2019, 11:13:41 AM
many people are only thinking about profit and not thinking ahead how the fate of the world of cryptocurrency, even if the world has run the practice of cryptocurrency, there will be many jobs for everyone, let's keep the price of eth coins so they can quickly rise in price cheap.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: UnDerDoG81 on February 10, 2019, 11:25:53 AM
Even as Bitcoin, many ponzi projects have only received investment with Bitcoin. And I know a lot of people involved in ponzi projects with huge bitcoin numbers. But it still can't judge the price of Bitcoin affected


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: laredo7mm on February 10, 2019, 11:37:09 AM
Of course the effects of scammers really make the market influential to be able to go up or down because they certainly have an influence on the cryptocurrency community. especially if the funds they get from fraud are very large


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: veekky on February 10, 2019, 11:55:26 AM
Scammers can affect price and it is called like manipulation, yeah?
But what about whales dumping their coins, is it a scam or not? I don't think so


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: andor.gellenhidi on February 10, 2019, 12:47:01 PM
Let's think together if a scam project collects for example 100.000 ETH which will then be sold for BTC or another coin. After all, this will hit the ETH prices very hard. This is an obvious fact.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: monster2 on February 10, 2019, 01:01:25 PM
Yes it can because once investors are being scammed they let it spread so some are afraid to buy or invest ETH, so if no investments the price of eth is very affected because of lack of investment.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: HanaTenun on February 10, 2019, 01:04:00 PM
Yes it can because once investors are being scammed they let it spread so some are afraid to buy or invest ETH, so if no investments the price of eth is very affected because of lack of investment.
maybe that's true. because the demand for ethereum will be greatly reduced. or precisely because traders also choose to hold their ethereum instead of trading with altcoin or the newly released ico token.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: malekbaba on February 10, 2019, 01:25:00 PM
The statement is truth. No doubt. Price falls if someone sells large quantities and fill buy orders at once. Scammers collect funds from investors. And once they get btc/eth, they just dump the price. And most dangerous thing is, they repeat the process. Hence arise the question of ICO regulation, KYC and product registration


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: leetcoiner on February 10, 2019, 06:57:37 PM
The statement is truth. No doubt. Price falls if someone sells large quantities and fill buy orders at once. Scammers collect funds from investors. And once they get btc/eth, they just dump the price. And most dangerous thing is, they repeat the process. Hence arise the question of ICO regulation, KYC and product registration
You are right there is a process of retaining development on new projects in the field of cryptocurrency. When low prices on Ethereum is small, who wants to invest in new projects.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: BartS on February 14, 2019, 05:32:53 PM
Why an investor will be impressed without a solid project. If you do enough research, no one can deceit you with a fake project. We should not inveat our money without proper research.
I agree with this, people keep investing in projects that have no future and have done nothing and yet they are asking millions of dollars, this needs to stop, we need to be more careful and to stop giving money to developers with nothing to show for except a website and a white paper, if we did that the number of scams will be reduced to almost zero and we will show all those scammers that we are not as dumb as they believe we are.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Dellosoft on February 14, 2019, 05:43:39 PM
You have a point here, some ICO teams sell off everything after the ICO to FIAT and it really affects ETH price. Vitalik didn't mean it this way, some bad guys are insulting the great works of Ethereum foundation which is very bad, nemesis will surely catch up with fake teams.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: daarul50 on February 14, 2019, 05:57:08 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
The statement above is true because since the ICO or smart contract project ETH prices have continued to decline. There have been many victims of investment fraud in the form of ICO projects and I think this should be an evaluation for ETH developers in the future.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: baigreen on February 14, 2019, 06:04:14 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

Of course. Scammers demolish this great coin. This is a big problem. But unfortunately, no one can solve it. Regulators are needed. And other controls that would be isbavitsya from such is the number of fraudsters. I think every blockchain friend has the same problem.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Yutikas_11920 on February 14, 2019, 06:21:42 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

Of course. Scammers demolish this great coin. This is a big problem. But unfortunately, no one can solve it. Regulators are needed. And other controls that would be isbavitsya from such is the number of fraudsters. I think every blockchain friend has the same problem.
if there are rules that are made, it might eliminate some properties from crypto, but regulations to reduce or eliminate scammers might be needed now because if there are no strong rules the scammer will still be there.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Forbiddenone on February 14, 2019, 06:29:49 PM
Scammer can affect the price when they have stolen big amount eth,small scammed money doesn't affect the price ,few years back when phishing link started spreading many investor fund was affected and mainly new traders but now as awareness is spreading it has decreased so much.mainly investors loose there fund  when they invest in scam ico's.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: a4illusionist on February 14, 2019, 06:34:19 PM
Actually, Ethereum provides an easy to create tokens and with that scammers create a token for a very low fee and activate their plan. Alot of them run away with the money and they don't care what happens to ether or the community.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: TomiJerry on February 14, 2019, 06:51:43 PM
Of course they can. If only in the list of fraudsters add all true professionals in the field of manipulating cryptography. First of all, these are large wealthy investors, owners of cryptographic funds and other major players from the banking sector.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: kakawin on February 14, 2019, 06:54:10 PM
Actually, Ethereum provides an easy to create tokens and with that scammers create a token for a very low fee and activate their plan. Alot of them run away with the money and they don't care what happens to ether or the community.
The eth developers have created such a good platform for creating tokens that it became very simple. This took advantage of a large number of scammers. The role was played by the fact that at that moment there was a rise in the market and people lost their brains.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Fumzy on February 14, 2019, 07:13:30 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

This could actually be true seeing that majority of the scammers in crypto world are literate. So pulling off stuffs like that cannot be put past them


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: pandanaran on February 14, 2019, 09:15:36 PM
There is a lot of speculation about the fall of ETH lately and everyone is different because there are many sources that describe it. One example of a scamer Projects that use the ETH Base have an impact on the development of ETH itself, it is logical. Whatever the reason, the scammer must be stopped because it harms many parties. Cryptocurrency is being hit by a disaster, I hope to quickly recover the situation.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: motun01 on February 14, 2019, 09:23:34 PM
This is very true because a scammer would ideally not care about if the market is going up or coming down or fluctuating. the only thing a scammer will care about is selling off his I'll gotten tokens  as early as possible so considering over 90% of new blockchain project are coming and having their token sale on the ethereum blockchain, I believe the scams taken place among them also have the power to catch the eth price.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: louisBSAS on February 14, 2019, 09:42:24 PM
ETH collapses not because of fraudsters, but because of the large number of tokens created in its blockchain network. When tokens began to fall in price, many investors began to change them to Ethereum and continue to sell it for dollars. It is this that primarily lowered the price of Ethereum. Also, developers receive investments primarily in Ethereum and then sell it in order to get money for the development of the project.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: nityans on February 14, 2019, 09:43:11 PM
Correctly noticed, added a large number of questionable projects that behave dishonestly towards investors in order to obtain easy money. Big money always attracts those who want to profit in a quick way.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: gaj ahmada on February 14, 2019, 11:38:16 PM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
I think the things you convey are not entirely true and there is no real evidence about your opinion, not only ethereum which has a declining price in the market but all altcoins including bitcoin have also decreased, it seems that this price reduction problem cannot be attributed to a scammer


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: jcarlo on February 15, 2019, 12:42:40 AM
Actually, Ethereum provides an easy to create tokens and with that scammers create a token for a very low fee and activate their plan. Alot of them run away with the money and they don't care what happens to ether or the community.
The eth developers have created such a good platform for creating tokens that it became very simple. This took advantage of a large number of scammers. The role was played by the fact that at that moment there was a rise in the market and people lost their brains.

ICO's scammer can dump their ETH from scamming and it will give effect to ethereum price. But ethereum is good platform and always increasing the security. Many scam ICOs last year and they collecting a lot ethereum coin and hopely this year people more carefull before join on scam ICOs


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Ziskinberg on February 15, 2019, 12:50:29 AM
Correctly noticed, added a large number of questionable projects that behave dishonestly towards investors in order to obtain easy money.
This thing should be eliminated in the future, it will bring a big problem to the crypto space.
Scammer will continue to take advantage on people who are new and does not fully understand the risk of investing in crypto, especially in ICO.
Government will have to do something about this big problem to protect investors.

Big money always attracts those who want to profit in a quick way.

Kindly explain further.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Ailmand on February 15, 2019, 01:26:19 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?

I think so too, it's not just the scammers but also hackers driving the price down the drain because whenever someone hacks a big amount of crypto they just sell it and the price goes down eventually.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: jimmymagz_071988 on February 15, 2019, 01:30:23 AM
Hello, You know guys most of reason why ETH falls down because of a lot of scammers used the smart contract and make a bright idea about for the future but its only fake. They always convince the investor using their good marketing strategy and once the investors are convinced so they invest their money. And once the scammers has a lot of ETH accumulated from the investors the will sell immediately so they can affect the whole market cap of ETH. What do you think?
Not so, big investors have idea how to put up big money in legetimate project. They have the experience to handle with care there assets. If some scammed project passed and get awaty moneys investors for not that big money and wont affect ethereum in the other hand.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Caladonian on February 15, 2019, 04:38:58 AM
Correctly noticed, added a large number of questionable projects that behave dishonestly towards investors in order to obtain easy money. Big money always attracts those who want to profit in a quick way.

They used the platform as a quick easy access to dumped what they've got from those scam projects, the value of ETH got affected as the sums
of those collected funds is huge, we need to consider how much people loses when a scam project runs away with their investment and see the
effect with ETH market.

I see the same point before, ETH platform when used correctly will lift the value bt if not surely it will go to other side.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: alroys on February 15, 2019, 04:46:51 AM
Yes, I agree, because if the scammer succeeds in tricking the investors through the fake project they made. then they will get ETH in large quantities, then they sell their coins at cheap prices to sell quickly. If Scammers succeed in making hundreds of fake projects, and succeed in cheating in large numbers, this will certainly harm those who hold ETH and expect high value.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: lutcor on February 15, 2019, 02:51:17 PM
I fully support the opinion of people who are talking about direct participation in the influence of prices in the cryptocurrency sector. I am sure that this is indeed the case. Probably now there are real projects that do so.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Stanlo on February 15, 2019, 02:54:07 PM
Yes its true that scammers can affect Ethereum price because ETH smart contract is what scammers use the most ,too many scam projects running off Ethereum erc20  which is very dangerous for Ethereum to me ,it can really make ETH lose value


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: jolle123 on February 15, 2019, 03:05:12 PM
For me it affects not only ethereum but all altcoins and bitcoin,because of scams some are afraid to invest because they don't believe any more. but there are still who has optimistic minded who try and try investing.And scammers are the one who responsible for the downfall of cryptocurrency market.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: PattersonRaquel on February 15, 2019, 03:19:06 PM
ETH prices cannot be affected by scammers. I think they are just sand grains on a sandy beach. They hold a small amount of eth compared to the amount of ETH being circulated on the market. Prices will not change much when they sell all


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Psynthax on February 15, 2019, 03:39:04 PM
ETH prices cannot be affected by scammers. I think they are just sand grains on a sandy beach. They hold a small amount of eth compared to the amount of ETH being circulated on the market. Prices will not change much when they sell all
If these scammers are stealing a lot of ethereum and then it can give a little impact to the market too. remember they will create a flash dump and this can give a panic selling for short term to the market. But that's a little impact to the market.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: vgk88 on February 15, 2019, 04:24:12 PM
Now any large sales can greatly affect the market. By this, I think that who makes these sales does not really matter. Now there are very few active buyers.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Ucy on February 16, 2019, 04:24:50 PM
It is not that easy. I think developers have to reach their softcap before fund is released by Ethereum smart contract.
The non-smartcontract platforms or addresses are probably the ones doing stuff like this.
By the way, The dip is a general problem, it has nothing to do with


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: BartS on February 27, 2019, 10:15:10 PM
ETH prices cannot be affected by scammers. I think they are just sand grains on a sandy beach. They hold a small amount of eth compared to the amount of ETH being circulated on the market. Prices will not change much when they sell all
It depends on the amount of money that scammers are able to steal, obviously a scammer holding a couple of ETH will do nothing to the market but if they are able to steal the funds of an important ico as it has happened in the past then we could see the price of ethereum suffering as they sell those coins in exchanges or try to sell them through other means, however as long as you do not panic as one of those crashes is happening you have nothing to worry about even in the event scammers get access to so many coins.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: mamesso on February 27, 2019, 11:45:47 PM
yes I agree that scamer worsens ETH prices. most ICOs use eth platforms and many ico fail to cause investors to throw tokens and release ethereum.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: motun01 on February 27, 2019, 11:58:52 PM
In order for the scammer to really affect the price of ethereum on the coin market cap, I think some factors have to be considered; factors like; what kind of scams, the amount that was scammed, and what the scammer does with the tokens.

If it is an exchange scam of a major exchange like binance or kucoin then it can greatly affect the ethereum price but if it is a scam like ico of just a few thousands of dollars or a few millions it will really not have any effect on the coin market price


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 28, 2019, 12:10:35 AM
It depends on how much ETH is in herpower, because to move the ETH market you need a lot of money, and you have to remember that there are many projects that defend the value of ETH because they have their investments there. They can move it but it is not so relevant, unless the scam that you have planned is very millionaire, since it would immediately shortear the chart..


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: biskitop on February 28, 2019, 12:15:11 AM
it's still 50-50. because if the erc-20 token is not yet listed on the exchanger, there has been no conversion to Ether. then I think it has not affected the etherum value.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Questat on February 28, 2019, 01:39:05 AM
it's still 50-50. because if the erc-20 token is not yet listed on the exchanger, there has been no conversion to Ether. then I think it has not affected the etherum value.
We have decentralized exchanges and they can always dump that.
The only effect on the ETH price is the lack of money coming in, unlike before where ICO is very popular, people are buying ETH to buy the tokens
in the ICO in order for them to invest, now most ICO are scams so no fresh money that are coming in.

Temporarily it will affect the price of ETH, that's why it has dump 10x, but soon it will rise back again.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: fortelen on February 28, 2019, 02:29:07 AM
Yes, scammers can affect the price of Ethereum. And they can influence through the negative news they make to spread widely. And the worst is that there are many fake ICO projects that use the Ethereum platform. So that investor confidence in Ethereum decreases.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Ekyfitri on February 28, 2019, 04:13:16 AM
Yes, scammers can affect the price of Ethereum. And they can influence through the negative news they make to spread widely. And the worst is that there are many fake ICO projects that use the Ethereum platform. So that investor confidence in Ethereum decreases.
maybe because it's easy to make tokens from the ethereum network that makes everyone able to make their own tokens. of course they can make ico and make a retirement plan that can benefit them. but that would be very detrimental to ethereum where trust in the platform could decline if it continued like this.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: javainn on February 28, 2019, 04:38:17 AM
It depends on how much ETH is in herpower, because to move the ETH market you need a lot of money, and you have to remember that there are many projects that defend the value of ETH because they have their investments there. They can move it but it is not so relevant, unless the scam that you have planned is very millionaire, since it would immediately shortear the chart..
actually eth is not too affected by eth, this is just speculation. which can give effect to eth is just bitcoin, if the scammer I think doesn't have a big effect on eth.


Title: Re: Scammer Can affect the ETH price.
Post by: Ipwich on February 28, 2019, 04:50:17 AM
Yes, scammers can affect the price of Ethereum. And they can influence through the negative news they make to spread widely. And the worst is that there are many fake ICO projects that use the Ethereum platform. So that investor confidence in Ethereum decreases.
maybe because it's easy to make tokens from the ethereum network that makes everyone able to make their own tokens. of course they can make ico and make a retirement plan that can benefit them. but that would be very detrimental to ethereum where trust in the platform could decline if it continued like this.
Only few investors will loss, and those are only newbies.
Anyone can make a tokens from ETH platform but proving the team's legitimacy is a crucial thing, if investors are educated, they won't fall for this type of scams.