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In fact we are talking about a new Xapo service, it is now a digital bank (based on Gibraltar), like Neteller for example. It offers a bank account, a vault and a debit card for $150 annual fees. Pro: card is available worldwide apparently with almost no fees. Con: $150/year, no virtual card? I don't count to join them with such rate..
Do you happen to know which type of card they offer? Also where did you read about the countries? I can't find a list. I can only see that they offer bank transfers in over 130 countries.
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In fact we are talking about a new Xapo service, it is now a digital bank (based on Gibraltar), like Neteller for example. It offers a bank account, a vault and a debit card for $150 annual fees. Pro: card is available worldwide apparently with almost no fees. Con: $150/year, no virtual card? I don't count to join them with such rate..
Do you happen to know which type of card they offer? Also where did you read about the countries? I can't find a list. I can only see that they offer bank transfers in over 130 countries. It appears to be Mastercard according to the image in the main page over "More than just a debit card". Well for countries, they didn't precise anything other than this Xapo is prohibited from transacting with individuals, companies and countries that are on prescribed sanctions lists. Xapo will therefore screen against United Nations, European Union, UK Treasury and US Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) sanctions lists in all jurisdictions in which we operate and this Xapo is headquartered in Gibraltar. However, due to the nature of our global offering, we have operations throughout the world, including but not limited to, North America, South America and Asia. We transfer your data to countries outside the European Economic Area (“third countries”) to the extent that is necessary in order to perform our services requested by you. Text could be found here https://legal.xapo.com/xapo-privacy-policy/
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July 17, 2021, 11:41:03 PM Merited by Symmetrick (2) |
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Update concerning ADVcash: for the rest of the world, you can now (if available in your country) order a plastic ADV Global card or a plastic ADV Crypto World card for $95 + fees ~$30-60/year. Fees details can be checked in your accounts. https://www.advcash.com/en/solutions/card/Pro: available in many countries normally in addition to Europe Cons: no virtual card? + higher fees for global users comparing to Europe I asked in ADVcash topic here about the virtual card for global users, hope it will be available with reasonable fees.
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Xapo has restarted issuing debit cards. somebody please review it.
I don't think that Xapo card is yet released for every country, except maybe for beta testing purposes , but it should happen this year with relaunching of their digital bank. I can't fins any page with fees but charging $150 annual fees is a bit to much in my opinion when compared with other card competition. Update concerning ADVcash: for the rest of the world, you can now (if available in your country) order a plastic ADV Global card or a plastic ADV Crypto World card for $95 + fees ~$30-60/year. Fees details can be checked in your accounts.
What is the difference between ADV Global card and ADV Crypto World card? I see that ADV Crypto World card have 0.75% currency exchange fee, and ADV Global card have no fees, so I am not sure if both of them accept Bitcoin/crypto, or one of them is just for fiat currencies.
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July 18, 2021, 01:05:25 PM |
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Update concerning ADVcash: for the rest of the world, you can now (if available in your country) order a plastic ADV Global card or a plastic ADV Crypto World card for $95 + fees ~$30-60/year. Fees details can be checked in your accounts.
What is the difference between ADV Global card and ADV Crypto World card? I see that ADV Crypto World card have 0.75% currency exchange fee, and ADV Global card have no fees, so I am not sure if both of them accept Bitcoin/crypto, or one of them is just for fiat currencies. Normally both cards can be topped from your ADVcash account so accepting bitcoin. ADV Crypto World is mentioned to have multiple load options but I can't tell which. The main difference I noticed is in fees between both cards and the validity time. You have to login to get more details about them. Personally I am not very interested in plastic cards so I didn't dig further ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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July 19, 2021, 02:32:00 PM Last edit: July 19, 2021, 03:02:55 PM by OmegaStarScream |
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Update concerning ADVcash: for the rest of the world, you can now (if available in your country) order a plastic ADV Global card or a plastic ADV Crypto World card for $95 + fees ~$30-60/year. Fees details can be checked in your accounts.
What is the difference between ADV Global card and ADV Crypto World card? I see that ADV Crypto World card have 0.75% currency exchange fee, and ADV Global card have no fees, so I am not sure if both of them accept Bitcoin/crypto, or one of them is just for fiat currencies. Normally both cards can be topped from your ADVcash account so accepting bitcoin. ADV Crypto World is mentioned to have multiple load options but I can't tell which. The main difference I noticed is in fees between both cards and the validity time. You have to login to get more details about them. Personally I am not very interested in plastic cards so I didn't dig further ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Here are all the differences between the two cards[1][2]. The Global one (which is a UnionPay card) is cheaper (when comparing maintenance fees) however I find that the "Crypto world" card is better since it's a Visa and can be used anywhere. As for the card issuance fee, then the price looks reasonable to me considering that they're using DHL for delivery. I've also asked the support about the virtual card, and they said they currently have no information about it. Did something change regarding the providers of the cards? Why are more services starting to accept the rest of the world all of a sudden? [1] https://i.imgur.com/WxiAwQm.png[2] https://i.imgur.com/awS5iiL.png
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July 19, 2021, 07:36:00 PM |
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I've also asked the support about the virtual card, and they said they currently have no information about it.
I already asked about virtual cards in advcash topic here and got this answer: Hi, I see advcash updated its card and included ADV Global and ADV Crypto World which is a great move although comparing to Europe, fees are higher. I wonder know why global virtual card wasn't included? and when it will be available? Thanks.
Fees are always higher if you compare internationally available products with EU-only products, this works for basically any such platform. The economics of international USD cards is quite different, and the fees reflect that. It depends on the card vendor what kinds of cards they offer. These vendors do not have virtual cards at the moment, but if and when they do, we will be happy to consider adding them as well.
Did something change regarding the providers of the cards? Why are more services starting to accept the rest of the world all of a sudden?
There is only few services accepting the rest of the world and AFAIK only advcash released new cards in the last couple months although they launched it in the past then stopped and changed providers before accepting it again.
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July 21, 2021, 01:34:43 PM |
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I don't think that Xapo card is yet released for every country, except maybe for beta testing purposes , but it should happen this year with relaunching of their digital bank. I can't fins any page with fees but charging $150 annual fees is a bit to much in my opinion when compared with other card competition.
It says "coming soon" on the website but the app is already released as "Xapo bank". I installed it but I'm not receiving any confirmation link whenever I submit my email. In case someone is interested in trying it: https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Xapo&hl=en&gl=US There is only few services accepting the rest of the world and AFAIK only advcash released new cards in the last couple months although they launched it in the past then stopped and changed providers before accepting it again.
Xapo's card, Advcash, B21.io (not all, but about ~80 countries which is more than most of the services out there), and you also have the big giant Revolut who are soon going to start supporting more countries. That's why I've been wondering if there were any new laws that helped all these services go worldwide, or it's just a coincidence.
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August 02, 2021, 06:13:52 PM Last edit: August 02, 2021, 06:32:59 PM by DavideBaldini |
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I had the Binance plastic card for a few months. It worked w/o issues on every shop I tried it, online and at a POS, except for a Tamoil gas station where it was rejected despite the card held 180€ at the time, all deposited as EURO. The self-service pump first displayed "pin code correct", and then "transaction denied".
Conveniently Binance sends an instant email whenever an online merchant tries to charge the card for an amount greater than the card's balance.
At the time of a transaction, the 0.9% fee is levied only if a cryptocurrency conversion is required to rise enough EURO to complete the payment, otherwise the fee is null. My first and last instance of letting the card automatically convert from crypto to EURO applied a terrible or buggy conversion rate, like 50% worse than the spot price.
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The self-service pump first displayed "pin code correct", and then "transaction denied".
My Binance card is denied by a small number of shops, the most known being the Lidl group (both inside or outside my country). But I've got used by that, the old Wirex, when it was also issued by Contis, had the same problem. So it's not a Binance issue, it's a Contis issue. My first and last instance of letting the card automatically convert from crypto to EURO applied a terrible or buggy conversion rate, like 50% worse than the spot price.
I use seldom the auto-conversion, exactly because I've noticed something odd with the conversion rate, but I cannot tell how bad it was when I've noticed it. But I don't have enough "data" to say more, maybe others use the auto-conversion more and can tell?
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Australian Crypto Exchange Coinjar has released a new cryptocurrency debit card backed by Mastercard. Ann here: https://blog.coinjar.com/digital-coinjar-card/The card supports more than 30 cryptocurrencies, with a conversion commission of only 1%. The card is available in both physical and digital form. You can pay with the card wherever Mastercard is supported, as well as withdraw cash from ATMs. The issue of the card is free in any form, and the fees are acceptable, no monthly fees: Interesting service but the card is mentioned "coming soon" on their site. I wonder know if it will be available globally or just in Australia /UK.. Besides verification seems to be only available for Australian right now, no?
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September 05, 2021, 07:10:17 AM |
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Great job fron the thread admin! Well done! Anyway, can I ask to add a column in the OP table? I think could be usefull to know from which state the card was emitted. Thank you again from the great job!
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September 05, 2021, 08:13:23 AM |
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Great job fron the thread admin! Well done! Anyway, can I ask to add a column in the OP table? I think could be usefull to know from which state the card was emitted. Thank you again from the great job!
Are you referring to the shipping? What's the point of that? Since most of these services will allow you to track the package.
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Been trying to install the changeinvest.com android app ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.getchange.wallet.cordova) but for some reason it's not available for any of my devices. I got a couple of Huawei devices. One has android 7 OS while the other has android 10 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQkLikXc.png&t=665&c=7TEq3uCcMFBbKQ) So am not sure if it's a compatibility issue or something else. Can someone help me ascertain what the cause could be?
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I tried to check that but mine shows different look at the image below ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fdp5W1wI.png&t=665&c=l3El6obA5NkPwQ) And it seems they only have limited supported devices look ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzEIceHK.png&t=665&c=W_6C__sUmHuhoQ) So based on that image only one Huawei model is supported.
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I tried to check that but mine shows different look at the image below
From what I see, the first image may be from a computer browser, while the second is from Google Play Android app, hence the difference. Although it's (more or less) on the list, I'll add that it's available for my Xiaomi Redmi 5 Plus with Android 8.1; but the problem may indeed be the Huawei device.
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>>snip<<
So I visited the link on my Google play, and I am now getting the same message as yours, " This item isn't available in your country" Now I wonder why they would put up misleading information on their website that the VISA Debit card can be used Worldwide ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0yjghl3.png&t=665&c=qFcPC1BlrbXiOg) Maybe Ratimov can make a small correction Change Card - INFO:- Card Type - VISA
- Production Cost - EUR 10
- Supported Coins - BCH, BTC, DASH, EOS, ETH, LTC, XPR, XLM, USDT
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Worldwide - Service fee - $0 (mothly)
- Fees - 0
- ATM Withdraw - EUR 1.10
- Funding Methods - Wire transfer
- Wallet Availability - YES
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Does anyone have information on how much Binance credit card fees are at ATMs? Does the 0.9% also apply to cash withdrawals? And are ATM fees added to this? If so, in what amount? I have heard too different statements here. From no fees at all for cash withdrawals at ATMs to heavily overcharged fees due to ATM extra fees. Unfortunately, the information on the Binance website ( https://www.binance.com/en/cards) does not provide much information here. Would be grateful for any helpful response.
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September 08, 2021, 11:28:59 AM |
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Does anyone have information on how much Binance credit card fees are at ATMs? Does the 0.9% also apply to cash withdrawals? And are ATM fees added to this? If so, in what amount? I have heard too different statements here. From no fees at all for cash withdrawals at ATMs to heavily overcharged fees due to ATM extra fees. Unfortunately, the information on the Binance website ( https://www.binance.com/en/cards) does not provide much information here. Would be grateful for any helpful response. Yes, the 0.9% fee also applies to withdrawals. And you won't get the BNB cashback either, like you get for purchases. And the ATM fees are on top of it - I've seen ATMs with 0 extra fee, I've seen ATMs with ~4 EUR extra too. Keep in mind that also that extra is counted within the daily withdrawals/limits. The extra fee should be shown by the ATM. One important thing is also the conversion rate. If you don't withdraw your card's currency, most ATMs will offer you 2 options, of which one is conversion of bank's (bad) exchange rate and one is at VISA standard exchange rate (good).
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