Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?

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I don’t know about the law being right or wrong. It’s certainly crazy that an activity that’s legal and allowed in a country cannot be talked about online. You could gamble all you want but talk about it online and face punishment of fines or jail term and in some cases, both.
I can understand the aim of the law to the general populace but if the law maker feels so strongly about gambling and all it entails, won’t it be better to put forward laws that would place stringent restrictions that would curtail gambling? Perhaps such strict laws won’t get enough support in order to pass.

Well, this would certainly help curb gambling online and greatly reduce its visibility to minors and young adults online.

Under 18s are online. You will see people advertising gambling online very well where children are visiting. That would be the reason for something like that was put in place. I like such country because they allow freedom and make adults to gamble but they should not advertise it which is something I see to be good. The government is not finding ways to reduce gambling but looking for ways it will not be talked about in the community which I think is not bad.

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[robelneo]

Any chance this bill will be approved?

And its such a big amount compare to other crimes, the heck Sen Padilla. because this I think will affect Filipinos here in the forum if they proved us to be promoting casinos. I did have a medium account where I wrote  some articles about gambling and added my referral links and I did create a youtube channel for it.

I get where the senator is coming from but it does sound extreme. Being in an early stage, there is likely to be changes about the bill (if approved) as well so I'm expecting it to be laxer.

I also doubt the bill would be retroactive -- means past actions will not be counted because it doesn't sound fair if it's retroactive. Plus, they would need to fine the influencers first so imagine the noise from that community lol.

But I guess this is one of the reasons why I try to stay private on bitcointalk because you never know what happens next.

This is one bill that is interesting to follow, gambling is very much legal in our country and many content creators are getting rich creating content about gambling, I also want this manipulative promotion stopped, but there should be provisions and specifics on who are the target of this bill.
I don't think it will reach this forum, its only for content creators on social medias who have large following, I hope to get this bill approve as early as possible and let's see where it leads to, will it stop content creators from promoting gambling in their channels and pages.

[HelliumZ]

There's always a double standard in government laws, so you need to get used for that.

They're accepting gambling because they know they can make a lot money by taxing the casino, but they don't want people to promote the casino because they didn't want to see people know their country are really known as gambling (many people still think gambling is bad), so they want to get a good impression for other people especially from foreign countries.

The reasoning you provided could be a possible reason.  Then there are some other important issues due to which the government has banned the promotion of casinos or gambling despite legalization. At present, if online gambling is advertised, children below 18 years of age are seen as visitors, so they will become addicted to all these gambling out of interest, thus their career will be threatened. Moreover, the government may have banned gambling promotion considering some other important issues.

[Lanatsa]

I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.

Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content

Totally contradictory right? Or totally that government doesnt really like on publishing things. I do actually mind boggled on whats up into their minds on which considering that they do allow gambling
but they are really that prohibiting about posting those winnings. If they are really that after for gambling revenue then they would really be that not making those kind of prohibitions.

Unless, if they do still allow gambling but they dont like for them to be advertised or be exposed because they dont like that gambling addiction would really be rising on the charts or in numbers?
If they do then there's nothing we can do if they are really just that making that kind of decisions on which its citizens wont really be having no choice but to comply or would be avoiding
into those things which are prohibited if they wont really be experiencing any issues. So it would really be that your choice.

[Natsuu]

I don’t know about the law being right or wrong. It’s certainly crazy that an activity that’s legal and allowed in a country cannot be talked about online. You could gamble all you want but talk about it online and face punishment of fines or jail term and in some cases, both.
I can understand the aim of the law to the general populace but if the law maker feels so strongly about gambling and all it entails, won’t it be better to put forward laws that would place stringent restrictions that would curtail gambling? Perhaps such strict laws won’t get enough support in order to pass.

Well, this would certainly help curb gambling online and greatly reduce its visibility to minors and young adults online.

Nakes sense. It's kinda crazy you can gamble all you want but can't chat about it online without getting in trouble. If they're worried about the bad side of gambling why not just make stricter rules for it instead of trying to hush people up? But I guess really tough laws might not go down well with everyone. Still, tightening things up online could help keep kids away from it. It's a real tricky situation, you know? Balancing freedom and control ain't easy

[el kaka22]

Same logic exists for drugs in my nation. Not bad drugs, I mean medicine, like for headache or stomachache etc etc, the ones that you go and buy at pharmacy. Obviously it is legal to sell them, how would we not die if it was illegal to sell medicine lol. However, promoting them is illegal, because doctors should be prescribing them and people should not be requesting them.

So all in all, the yare all illegal and you just have to go to a doctor, they will give you what you should take, you get the prescription, take it to a pharmacy, and the pharmacist will give you what the doctor wrote down. This is similar, so if you bet then you can bet but promoting it could cause a lot more trouble on the long run and should be avoided.

[Samlucky O]

That's a quite strange law because they are allowing gambling casinos and outlets to work without any restriction but when someone talks about it they will get penalized. If they really don't like gambling then they should take proper actions against the casinos and those lotto outlets, however, i they don't want to do that then they should allow citizens to talk about betting.

That is quit a strange thing I have ever heard of. I can't emerging a country penalizing people for talking about gambling yet they allow people Play gamble in shoplets and many other casino centre. Although I know gambling is not  legal practice. But allowing people to play and open casino yet they deal with people who speaks about it, is what baffles me. I am also in support that if they can't handle or stand the chance to handle gambling issues they better call it a quit. Because I don see enough reason to benefit from something yet criticise it for nothing.

[Jawhead999]

Same logic exists for drugs in my nation. Not bad drugs, I mean medicine, like for headache or stomachache etc etc, the ones that you go and buy at pharmacy. Obviously it is legal to sell them, how would we not die if it was illegal to sell medicine lol. However, promoting them is illegal, because doctors should be prescribing them and people should not be requesting them.

If that medicine is strong, why the pharmacist allows to sell the medicine without prescription?

In my country, someone who don't have prescription will not able to buy strong medicine, you can only get the alternative which is not strong as that medicine.

I don’t know about the law being right or wrong. It’s certainly crazy that an activity that’s legal and allowed in a country cannot be talked about online. You could gamble all you want but talk about it online and face punishment of fines or jail term and in some cases, both.
I can understand the aim of the law to the general populace but if the law maker feels so strongly about gambling and all it entails, won’t it be better to put forward laws that would place stringent restrictions that would curtail gambling? Perhaps such strict laws won’t get enough support in order to pass.

I believe it's not all gamblers will be jailed because if the government is catching everyone who talk about gambling, then the jail will be full and it would harm their countries. Instead, they only catch the big person i.e. popular or rich.

[swogerino]

At first when I read the title I thought a strange law indeed but after thinking about it for some time I agree with such law in the country.I am assuming people go deep down in addiction there and the government don't want widespread of the gamblers throughout their territory so they keep it simple,you can play gambling as long as you don't interfere with other people by impacting them to join gambling.In such country I assume gambling is geared only toward those who really want to play and this country does not need promotion,especially online promotion of this type.For us in Europe this may seem strange yet I am sure there are countries suffering from gambling and the government wants to restrict it,but not completely as they want to have taxes because of such businesses also.

[Odusko]

That's a quite strange law because they are allowing gambling casinos and outlets to work without any restriction but when someone talks about it they will get penalized. If they really don't like gambling then they should take proper actions against the casinos and those lotto outlets, however, i they don't want to do that then they should allow citizens to talk about betting.

From my observations, this look like a mix up because the thing doesn't connect how can you allow the use of gambling and then ban those who won from same it from celebrating or promoting the game, this is a big mix up and I believe the bill will not scale through legislative process.
One or two other legislators will definitely kick against tlsuch Bill and I believe there is going to be more approvals for public gambling if it already allowed in the country just as the ops aiad, most of the time, some of those bills are just Born out of personal interest and prejudice mentality which will be scrapped out in the long run.

[junder]

I think It's wise for government to have regulations on gambling in a way to respond a common concern for public welfare and the potential negative consequences associated with excessive gambling. Governments often implement regulations to protect citizens from the harmful effects of gambling addiction. It's better to ensure that gambling activities are conducted responsibly. It would be a good policy to promote responsible gambling and limit exposure to gambling advertising, especially to vulnerable populations such as young people. That is a primary objective of many government regulations.

Regulating the industry and controlling where and how gambling activities are advertised are the policy to mitigate the risks of addiction and minimize the impact on society. Encouraging online gambling, where activities can be more easily monitored and controlled, may indeed be part of the government's strategy to regulate gambling in a more controlled environment. Online platforms make gamblers easier to set limits on their spending and time spent gambling.

I agree with you, of course the government has a responsibility towards its people, such as setting rules for its people about gambling that should not be done excessively, but even so, there are still many people who gamble excessively, they tend to gamble inappropriately so that they experience huge financial loss. Even though a country legalizes gambling, it doesn't mean we can gamble excessively. Of course, if we really like gambling, we hope we can do it responsibly.

Gambling that is done should be done responsibly, with the large number of advertisements displayed on social media, it is indeed attracting more and more people to gamble, but even so, we should not gamble excessively. being able to take responsibility for everything you do is good. especially with today's young people who are very closely connected to social media in their daily lives, they are definitely familiar with online gambling, the thing that must be paid attention to is that we must be able to see the bad effects of gambling, which if done excessively, there have been many cases of the bad effects of gambling which was done excessively and I think that can be a lesson for us, so we don't do the same thing.

[acroman08]

so what do you think of this law, is this right?

It's moronic!

I wonder if this includes celebrities who have been hired to advertise casinos because I've seen a lot of well known celebrities in the philippines who advertise casinos. if celebrities are not included on this, it will be extremely unfair to people who are not celebrities, if this bill somehow get passed it will take a lot of opportunity to a lot of people.

I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

I think you meant to write $9k instead of $90k, because $90k would equal to 5M PHP.

[leonair]

It depends on the laws of each country. Gambling may be legalized in your country for those who want to gamble on their own initiative.  But if you promote the casino site with various interesting slides, videos or other content then it is also on them. May affect people who originally did not want to gamble. so such people can get upset and complain against the promoter and at that time the promoter can be jailed it will depend on the laws of each country. So to know this, you have to study law first

[Odusko]

It depends on the laws of each country. Gambling may be legalized in your country for those who want to gamble on their own initiative.  But if you promote the casino site with various interesting slides, videos or other content then it is also on them. May affect people who originally did not want to gamble. so such people can get upset and complain against the promoter and at that time the promoter can be jailed it will depend on the laws of each country. So to know this, you have to study law first

You have a point any ways because from the promotion of those gambling site, it may attract under children tolinto gambling which is what the government want to prevent, and also we have to note some other factors that may possibly put the government in the position to ban public promotion of gambling in the media or social such as the money laundering worries of the government but even at that the government will ban all their official from operating a casino account or involved in any form of gambling.
But realistically we need to be clear on something, which is that the government won't get good feedback from such laws because of their want to be strict on gambling they should have hand out a total ban instead of a partial ban on public promotion while they accept and allow gambling within they country.

[Twentyonepaylots]

That is a really weird law in your country. Why would they imprison someone if they post or promote gambling when gambling is legal and everyone can gamble? It seems really weird if we are comparing it to other countries. Perhaps there's a reason why they would do such things, like, are there a large number of criminal cases that are related to gambling? Or is the number of gamblers in there growing?

Whatever the reason, somehow it is a good law if they are limiting something. With this law, it can also limit the number of new gamblers since maybe there are an uncontrollable number of people who are gambling and an absolute number of vloggers or influencers that are promoting them. Since social media is a wide place, maybe kids can see them, and there's a chance that they might be influenced by the vloggers that are promoting them.

[GigaBit]

There must be a logical reason for making such a law. Where online gambling or physical gambling is permitted but direct promotion is prohibited. I think the purpose of making such a law is that gambling cannot be encouraged there. If one conducts gambling at his own wish he has sufficient freedom but when it is publicized he becomes a criminal. I think this is definitely a good law. If gambling is legalized in most countries that have existing laws, they will be allowed to do all kinds of promotions, including gambling and advertising. But the laws of your country legalize gambling but do not allow it to be encouraged which is certainly commendable. Government in a country can take any decision considering various opportunities, benefits and alternative possibilities.

[decodx]

so what do you think of this law, is this right?

I get what you're saying, but I don't think gambling ads being illegal while gambling itself is legal is that weird.  It kinda reminds me of alcohol - it's legal to buy but theres all these rules about selling it or drinking it public and  my guess is they're worried about problem gambling and addiction.  So maybe cracking down on constant ads everywhere is their way to help addicts out?  Seems contradictory though, right? Makes you wonder if there's some other reason they don't want it promoted so much.

[o48o]

Any chance this bill will be approved?

And its such a big amount compare to other crimes, the heck Sen Padilla. because this I think will affect Filipinos here in the forum if they proved us to be promoting casinos. I did have a medium account where I wrote  some articles about gambling and added my referral links and I did create a youtube channel for it.

I don't see link to actual proposal so i could read it word to word, and i am not expert on philippines gambling laws, so it's hard to do any deductive reasoning about if it's going to pass, but i am assuming they are considering it could be targeted to young people, especially in some social media platforms where kids are active that argument could hold. Especially when age limit for gambling in philippines is 21.

Similar rules for advertisement bans for certain fields exists already all around the world and EU is setting up tighter laws against influencer marketing too.

Traditional media and traditional advertisement was easier to control, but regulators want to catch up with guerrilla adverisement like influencers. And since that fight is way harder to win as most of them don't admit that they are advertising. This could be one step against it. If they don't need to prove that influencer is getting something in return, it's way more easier just to enforce blanket ban pro gambling content in general.

[taufik123]

It depends on the laws of each country. Gambling may be legalized in your country for those who want to gamble on their own initiative.  But if you promote the casino site with various interesting slides, videos or other content then it is also on them. May affect people who originally did not want to gamble. so such people can get upset and complain against the promoter and at that time the promoter can be jailed it will depend on the laws of each country. So to know this, you have to study law first

Such regulations are too cornering gambling, even though it has been legalized.
There should be places where to promote gambling, and these places are already addressed.

There may be rules that do not allow promoting in public places or places that are too crowded with minors.
Not completely prohibiting someone from promoting gambling either through slides, videos and other content.

If it is prohibitive, of course it is obvious, not allowing it at all, but if it is still legal, it must be flexible and equally profitable,
because the casino must have paid taxes to the government that legalized it.

[Ever-young]

I don’t know about the law being right or wrong. It’s certainly crazy that an activity that’s legal and allowed in a country cannot be talked about online. You could gamble all you want but talk about it online and face punishment of fines or jail term and in some cases, both.
I can understand the aim of the law to the general populace but if the law maker feels so strongly about gambling and all it entails, won’t it be better to put forward laws that would place stringent restrictions that would curtail gambling? Perhaps such strict laws won’t get enough support in order to pass.

Well, this would certainly help curb gambling online and greatly reduce its visibility to minors and young adults online.

Nakes sense. It's kinda crazy you can gamble all you want but can't chat about it online without getting in trouble. If they're worried about the bad side of gambling why not just make stricter rules for it instead of trying to hush people up? But I guess really tough laws might not go down well with everyone. Still, tightening things up online could help keep kids away from it. It's a real tricky situation, you know? Balancing freedom and control ain't easy

It's a difficult angle and you make an excellent point regarding the conflict between freedom and control. There is always a balance to strike between allowing people to make their own decisions and protecting them from potential damage. Finding the correct balance is especially challenging in situations when addiction is a real risk, such as gambling. As you mentioned, any alterations to gambling regulations may be met with resistance from some people.
I believe that achieving a balance will always be difficult because people's definitions of "freedom" and "control" differ. Some people believe that any gambling prohibitions violate their right to make their own decisions. Others see greater limitations as a helpful step toward safeguarding individuals from harm. So, even if a policy is implemented to strike a balance, it is possible that some people will be dissatisfied with it.