Title: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: nexus99 on July 26, 2014, 04:25:36 PM Anyone prefer to use a thread not modded by BA?
Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: terrapinflyer on July 26, 2014, 10:57:45 PM If anyone would like to legally chase BA then here are Black Arrow's and director's details. Mr Alexandru Ion Sovu 24 Branksome Court Prospect Street, Reading RGI 7XR Berskshire, UK He is Romanian, living in UK His email address is alex27a@gmail.com All info can be found in the link below http://www.kiwi.nz/blackarrow/PS300015776549_01.pdf http://www.kiwi.nz/blackarrow/ Lets see them delete this now... Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: notindexed on July 26, 2014, 11:05:27 PM tl;dr facts
- Preorder with promised shipping of fully functional hardware due february 2014 - Delaytrain with false promises/lying till time of this writing - Resellers (which at the time ppl preordered weren't available yet) are getting shipped first (with 6 months delay, only small quantities, ppl reporting hardware DOA, buggy and missing tons of promised features and not meeting advertised performance) - No refunds (ppl that requested refunds months ago [beginning of this year till <] got told that refunds were only possible once shipping of HW starts. Backers getting fully ignored, ticket-/email-/phone-/forum support ceased since. CAPS FACTS NEVER EVER BUY ANYTHING FROM THIS INCOMPETENT COMPANY Worst customer experience ever. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: sirsmokesalot on July 27, 2014, 12:33:43 AM tl;dr facts - Preorder with promised shipping of fully functional hardware due february 2014 - Delaytrain with false promises/lying till time of this writing - Resellers (which at the time ppl preordered weren't available yet) are getting shipped first (with 6 months delay, only small quantities, ppl reporting hardware DOA, buggy and missing tons of promised features and not meeting advertised performance) - No refunds (ppl that requested refunds months ago [beginning of this year till <] got told that refunds were only possible once shipping of HW starts. Backers getting fully ignored, ticket-/email-/phone-/forum support ceased since. CAPS FACTS NEVER EVER BUY ANYTHING FROM THIS INCOMPETENT COMPANY Worst customer experience ever. This! It is totally messed up. Buncha cheats. Although the delay was until about April, or so they claimed, they never met that deadline either. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: bigredbutton on July 27, 2014, 08:05:25 AM Where is that link for the Department of Commerce in Hong Kong or something like that? BLackArrow deleted the post with the link in the other thread.
Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: eXOBeX on July 27, 2014, 10:09:31 AM Deleted from the other thread:-
Are these asshole scammers back to deleting posts? You do know it isn'tworth it to ddelete posts after a couple of days sinc everyone has already seen them. Well just for good measure. Never order from BA. They are incompetent idiots who I wouldn't trust to serve my fries at McDonalds. Lying scamming pieces of shit, the lot of them. I hope karma meets up with you pricks and your facilities burn and your wives leave you for a more competent man. That'd make a nice signature, you know ;)Have BullshittingArseholes shipped ANY miners out to individuals yet, or are they doing the resellers first? If you bought direct from BA and your miner's arrived, what '00s range was your order in? Not deleted from the other thread but repeated here anyway:- I received two out of the four X-1's I ordered and the first one i plugged in sent a shower of sparks everywhere, so far the 2nd unit hashes anywhere from 9 to 90 Ghz regardless of what the Freq is set to, the errors do seem to drop a bit if it's set to 1000 or below.. Your mileage may vary ::) So that's the second power supply we know to have gone bang. How many more, I wonder?Funny how the image showing the PSU manufacturer label seems to have "disappeared". Fortunately Firefox's search history comes up trumps, I originally tried finding a "Sunshine AP187" back when the picture was posted. Here's what AliBaba has to say about it. http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=ap187+power+supply (http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=ap187+power+supply) Perhaps that's Black Arrow's "surprise"... http://s18.postimg.org/ak2i9ognd/Way_Of_The_Exploding_PSU.jpg (http://s18.postimg.org/ak2i9ognd/Way_Of_The_Exploding_PSU.jpg) Make that two for two on the PSU's, i moved my working unit to the shelf i was going to keep it on, plugged it in and fireworks.. unbelievably craptastic parts BA That's three so far, out of however many on here have received them so far which is a pretty shit failure rate. Should've called them Prospero X360.Perhaps it's time to give AplusPower the WebOfTrust score they deserve as well. https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/apluspower.cn (https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/apluspower.cn) Oh, and this is for the Googlebot: Black Arrow Prospero X1 X-1 X3 X-3 power supply dead PSU Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: BitCoin Operated Boy on July 27, 2014, 01:04:33 PM I have submitted a negative feedback-rate on bitcointalk for Black Arrow's profile.
I recommend doing the same Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Pentax on July 27, 2014, 01:53:06 PM See here for consumer complaints links/information for Hong Kong and the US. US information posted by thejaxx.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=681965.msg8036024#msg8036024 anyone that has anything to contribute there is of course welcome to do so. coordinated/mass action is more likely to get this taken seriously by consumer groups, the courts and Black Arrow, which has to this point been decidedly non-responsive on a lot of issues. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: eXOBeX on July 27, 2014, 08:22:37 PM This was deleted from the main thread, so I've reposted it and copied it here.
In case they screw around with the online Ts & Cs, here's a PDF copy. The important bit is section 15.2 subsection 16.2.1 (the number error has existed since 2013). http://www.scribd.com/doc/235199501/Black-Arrow-Terms-and-Conditions (http://www.scribd.com/doc/235199501/Black-Arrow-Terms-and-Conditions) The fact that they DID delete it tells me they do intend to screw around with them. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: cloverme on July 27, 2014, 08:54:34 PM So, what's the story with Black Arrow...? It doesn't look like they ever shipped, what's the latest info on them?
Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: nexus99 on July 27, 2014, 09:36:00 PM So, what's the story with Black Arrow...? It doesn't look like they ever shipped, what's the latest info on them? They have shipped some things... other things no. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: eXOBeX on July 27, 2014, 11:43:22 PM The key word here being some. Not all. Nowhere near all. Sub-ten-percent of orders would be my guess. Any advance on sub-ten anyone?
Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: itod on July 28, 2014, 12:09:44 AM This was deleted from the main thread, so I've reposted it and copied it here. In case they screw around with the online Ts & Cs, here's a PDF copy. The important bit is section 15.2 subsection 16.2.1 (the number error has existed since 2013). http://www.scribd.com/doc/235199501/Black-Arrow-Terms-and-Conditions (http://www.scribd.com/doc/235199501/Black-Arrow-Terms-and-Conditions) The fact that they DID delete it tells me they do intend to screw around with them. You should always quote these things here, never trust a Scribid not to remove it if Black Arrow ask that based on the copyright bases: Code: Black Arrow Terms and Conditions Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: BitCoin Operated Boy on July 28, 2014, 02:54:42 AM I must inform proper UK authority about it! Maybe he has been chased by Romanian authorities. It is written in the article that he avoided prosecution because he left the country.
I will try to find out who I should provide tihs information to. And let them know that he is very likely to be commiting another crime again right now! Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: SirWizz on July 28, 2014, 02:56:08 AM It certainly looks that way - BA is basically the company of a con-man. That, and PG was right... it really isn't a stretch comparing them and BFL. They are both companies run by con men, and while BA appears to be slightly more competent (and I use the term loosely) that's really not saying much - and that's why we're in this mess.
PG was right all along I suppose - should have listened to him :(. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: terrapinflyer on July 28, 2014, 04:56:25 AM I hate to say it, PG was rite on this from the get go. I should have listened to him and not argued...
Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: nexus99 on July 28, 2014, 05:18:34 AM It certainly looks that way - BA is basically the company of a con-man. That, and PG was right... it really isn't a stretch comparing them and BFL. They are both companies run by con men, and while BA appears to be slightly more competent (and I use the term loosely) that's really not saying much - and that's why we're in this mess. PG was right all along I suppose - should have listened to him :(. Isn't PG on the take now? I heard he was bought by Butterfly Labs. Supposedly that's why he isn't active any more. At least under that name. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Unacceptable on July 28, 2014, 06:49:10 AM It certainly looks that way - BA is basically the company of a con-man. That, and PG was right... it really isn't a stretch comparing them and BFL. They are both companies run by con men, and while BA appears to be slightly more competent (and I use the term loosely) that's really not saying much - and that's why we're in this mess. PG was right all along I suppose - should have listened to him :(. Isn't PG on the take now? I heard he was bought by Butterfly Labs. Supposedly that's why he isn't active any more. At least under that name. He just took a bribe is all,not a payroll thing.I think you guys hurt his feelings so he went deeper into the "barnwood porn" scene :D Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: itod on July 28, 2014, 02:05:52 PM My post was just deleted from the Black Arrow self-moderated thread. Posting it here:
Mate, just read what is under the links above. It seems like he has been chased by Romanian authorities for large scale fraud! I'm glad that I've stopped at the last moment from ordering from Black Arrow. Sorry for everyone who fell victims to these serial scammers: Quote GOVERNMENT OF ROMANIA On 01/14/2003, workers in DGCCOA-Brigade Bucharest, based on the information held, and a search warrant issued by the Public Prosecutor at the Court of Appeal, proceeded to carry out house searches in homes following: Sovu Alexandru Ion, 24 years old from Bucharest, sector 2; Sovu Mircea Dan, the brother mentioned above, 23 years, Bucuresti, Sector 2, both associated to a company in Bucharest; and STOENESCU LILIANA bridegroom, 32 years old from Bucharest, sector 6. Those concerned together with RADUT Mircea, 32 years, Bucuresti, Sector 4 and Ixari Iulia Cristina 26 years old from Bucharest, sector 2, were part of a network that deals with committing computer fraud via the Internet community. In fact, in the period 2000 - 2002, the brothers launched Sovu more orders on the Internet at online stores abroad (in particular the United States, Australia and Canada) for the purchase of goods using fraudulent card numbers Credit is not theirs, without the knowledge or authorization of the true owners. After orders have arrived in Romania about 100 parcels names and addresses accomplices, STOENESCU LILIANA bridegroom and Mircea RADUT which to raise their courier and postal offices in exchange from the brothers amounts between 300,000 and 1,000 .000 USD, depending on the contents of the package. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: zhinkk on July 28, 2014, 02:08:00 PM So, what's the story with Black Arrow...? It doesn't look like they ever shipped, what's the latest info on them? It's weird suddenly seeing this because I stepped out of the mining scene when Black Arrow was an amazing company. Now I come back and read all this... it seems like no company can keep it's reputation up anymore. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: ducmami on July 28, 2014, 02:10:47 PM i've got my second x1. order 3xx
is there any x3 shipped? Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: alfabitcoin on July 28, 2014, 02:13:28 PM My post was just deleted from the Black Arrow self-moderated thread. Posting it here: Mate, just read what is under the links above. It seems like he has been chased by Romanian authorities for large scale fraud! I'm glad that I've stopped at the last moment from ordering from Black Arrow. Sorry for everyone who fell victims to these serial scammers: Quote GOVERNMENT OF ROMANIA On 01/14/2003, workers in DGCCOA-Brigade Bucharest, based on the information held, and a search warrant issued by the Public Prosecutor at the Court of Appeal, proceeded to carry out house searches in homes following: Sovu Alexandru Ion, 24 years old from Bucharest, sector 2; Sovu Mircea Dan, the brother mentioned above, 23 years, Bucuresti, Sector 2, both associated to a company in Bucharest; and STOENESCU LILIANA bridegroom, 32 years old from Bucharest, sector 6. Those concerned together with RADUT Mircea, 32 years, Bucuresti, Sector 4 and Ixari Iulia Cristina 26 years old from Bucharest, sector 2, were part of a network that deals with committing computer fraud via the Internet community. In fact, in the period 2000 - 2002, the brothers launched Sovu more orders on the Internet at online stores abroad (in particular the United States, Australia and Canada) for the purchase of goods using fraudulent card numbers Credit is not theirs, without the knowledge or authorization of the true owners. After orders have arrived in Romania about 100 parcels names and addresses accomplices, STOENESCU LILIANA bridegroom and Mircea RADUT which to raise their courier and postal offices in exchange from the brothers amounts between 300,000 and 1,000 .000 USD, depending on the contents of the package. I seen this last year in May or July from some lancelot gb organizer with a lancelot purchase went south. BA did not want to use escrow and gb organizer was not willing to do it without regatding it was a big amount of money. Ba even post that alex sovu were their reseller in uk and hes changed man. Full story can be found in archive forum. Then I decided that BA is a shady and can not be trusted with big amount of money. Also when they announced making own asic with preorder I voiced my concerns but they deleted it. Think ba is one guy company, outsourcing all and thus have a good chance of fuck up - that happened. Also due statue of limitation authority can not do much about it today. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: BitCoin Operated Boy on July 28, 2014, 03:24:08 PM Consumer Legal Action Fund. Helping consumers to file and defend their claim.
http://www.consumer.org.hk/website/ws_en/legal_protection/consumer_legal_actions_fund/CLAFBriefPDF.pdf How to report a fraud in UK: http://fraudaid.com/How-To-Deal-With-Having-Been-Conned/Fraud_Report/Jurisdictions/International/ScotlandYard.htm Hong Kong's Consumer Complaint Form (in english): https://www.consumer.org.hk/cc-complaint/index.php?lang=en Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: DonRavy on July 29, 2014, 07:39:29 PM Deleted Post
« Sent to: DonRavy on: Today at 07:36:48 PM » Reply with quoteReply with quote Remove this messageDelete A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote Quote You're a bunch of filthy liars. Once my deadline for the refund is over tomorrow evening, I'll open up all the details I have from my private conversations with David here (in the unmoderated thread since you're oh so honest and transparent), you can bet you'll have a shitstorm flying at you after that, with all the crap I got on you. You can also tell Mr. Sovu that I've talked to my legal council about the possibility of contacting interpol based on his hands in this as directory of BA, respectively Merlion Holding Ltd. I'm sure those guys will be interested to question him about his shenannigans in Romania as well. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: BitCoin Operated Boy on July 31, 2014, 02:53:13 PM Deleted Post « Sent to: DonRavy on: Today at 07:36:48 PM » Reply with quoteReply with quote Remove this messageDelete A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote Quote You're a bunch of filthy liars. Once my deadline for the refund is over tomorrow evening, I'll open up all the details I have from my private conversations with David here (in the unmoderated thread since you're oh so honest and transparent), you can bet you'll have a shitstorm flying at you after that, with all the crap I got on you. You can also tell Mr. Sovu that I've talked to my legal council about the possibility of contacting interpol based on his hands in this as directory of BA, respectively Merlion Holding Ltd. I'm sure those guys will be interested to question him about his shenannigans in Romania as well. So is your deadline over? Have you followed any actions? Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: DonRavy on July 31, 2014, 06:02:33 PM Of course, there hasn't been a single deadline BA hasn't missed in this whole endeavour.
Check https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=681965.20 for the legal proceedings in the near future, so far I've done the preliminary paperwork and sorted most of the financial stuff (legal insurance etc), next week I'll continue to meet with my legal council to discuss various aspects like joining up with Pentax and others to form a class action lawsuit against BA. Depending on how that goes I'll continue to confer with Pentax and see where that gets us, the planned course of action would be to hire a lawyer in HK together, to file the preliminary court papers and go from there. I'm still not 100% sure on jurisdiction, with the 1 country 2 systems policy, but that's one of the first points that I'll clear up next week. There might be a remote possibility that we'll be able to file in HK (place of registration/incorporation) as well as mainland PRC (place of business). Due to the fact that Merlion Holdings Ltd. with it's seat on the British Virgin Islands is the main controlling body of Black Arrow, there could even be a slight possibility to try our luck in front of european, respectively UK courts. Other points include filing for personal liability of BA's management due to gross negligence and possibly having my legal council contact Interpol with details on the whole Mr. Sovu issue, both in this matter and the past shenannigans in Romania, as mentioned earlier. I'll keep people posted, albeit in the thread I linked above. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: BitCoin Operated Boy on August 01, 2014, 08:24:25 PM Of course, there hasn't been a single deadline BA hasn't missed in this whole endeavour. Check https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=681965.20 for the legal proceedings in the near future, so far I've done the preliminary paperwork and sorted most of the financial stuff (legal insurance etc), next week I'll continue to meet with my legal council to discuss various aspects like joining up with Pentax and others to form a class action lawsuit against BA. Depending on how that goes I'll continue to confer with Pentax and see where that gets us, the planned course of action would be to hire a lawyer in HK together, to file the preliminary court papers and go from there. I'm still not 100% sure on jurisdiction, with the 1 country 2 systems policy, but that's one of the first points that I'll clear up next week. There might be a remote possibility that we'll be able to file in HK (place of registration/incorporation) as well as mainland PRC (place of business). Due to the fact that Merlion Holdings Ltd. with it's seat on the British Virgin Islands is the main controlling body of Black Arrow, there could even be a slight possibility to try our luck in front of european, respectively UK courts. Other points include filing for personal liability of BA's management due to gross negligence and possibly having my legal council contact Interpol with details on the whole Mr. Sovu issue, both in this matter and the past shenannigans in Romania, as mentioned earlier. I'll keep people posted, albeit in the thread I linked above. That sounds great. Please keep us posted Title: XBTec.io - Black Arrow in disguise? Post by: eXOBeX on August 03, 2014, 08:13:02 PM Has anyone else just got email spam about an XBTec PACIFIC V2 machine to an email address they've only used at blackarrow? I'm wondering if they've sold/passed-on their customer/victim database to someone else, or had it exploited? Yep, same here. Email address used only for the Black Arrow order, nowhere else. The bulk mailing has been sent via MailChimp, there's an abuse report address in the email header. Whois (http://www.nic.io/cgi-bin/whois) search indicates it's owned by Artem Solodkiy. First registered 16th May 2014, yet the About page reckons they were founded in 2012. The Pacific 1250 even uses the same PSU as the Prospero X3. Rear of Pacific 1250 http://www.xbtec.io/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/IMG_2119-500x375.jpg Rear of Prospero X3 http://ecointalk.net/uploads/gallery/album_20/gallery_5_20_114938.jpg X3 PSU (model AP188) http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0399/4181/products/AP188_PSU_picture.png?v=1399557705 Looks to me like Black Arrow is getting ready to jump ship and start scamming under a new name (seeing as the BA name will be forever mud it's the logical thing to do). In any case XBTec have obtained email addresses without permission, which gives you some idea of how trustworthy they are. Scammer or spammer, you decide. Quote from: news@xbtec.io PACIFIC V2 The Best Miner Available Today XBTec* unveils a 1.57TH/s compact bitcoin miner with the fastest ROI for a period of less than 3 months, for the price $1399! The power consumption is only 0.8W per GH, which is the most effective solution available today. In development of this miner many shortcomings of previous miners were taken into consideration. In order to achieve such performance with such sizes and power consumption, we had to overcome multiple complex technical problems. Here are some photos of our first model PACIFIC 1250 which is available in stock: XBTec PACIFIC V2 is a joint product of Chinese and Russian engineers. Today it is the most competitive bitcoin miner in terms of price, power consumption and size. Our engineers have optimized the architecture of the PCB board. While developing the miner, we took into account how important it is for the users that the hardware does not emit excessive noise. Indeed, many people use these devices at home, where unnecessary noise is undesirable. The PCB boards and aluminum cases are ready now! The miners will be shipped on August 31st. We have a special offer on the pre-orders: just use this promotion code kdie8-rjdy2-274jf-3lroe and get $100 extra discount (valid for the first 100 orders only). Moreover, XBTec is preparing to bring a cloud mining solution into the market. The capacity of the data center will be 1 Petahash. *The company’s headquarters is located in Hong Kong. Its developers are based in Moscow and Shenzhen. Factory is located in Shenzhen. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: BitCoin Operated Boy on August 04, 2014, 11:24:34 AM If it is true then that's just bloody great...
Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: BitCoin Operated Boy on August 06, 2014, 05:57:25 PM Black Arrow removed my message about Hong Kong's Consumer Council sending me an e-mail and letter with confirmation of opening up the case against Black Arrow.
Now Black Arrow has just tried to blackmail me in private message. Here is teh conversation. I've got print screens which I will upload online later. Black Arrow: Sent to: BitCoin Operated Boy on: Today at 04:01:25 PM Dear Customer, What is your order number? Regards! Black Arrow Me: I will not provide you with my order details as you threatened forum members with consequences. If you want t know my order number then you shall see it on the letter from Consumer Council regarding my complaint. Black Arrow: How can we ship your order first if you do not let us know what order you want to be shipped? What kind of consequences can we threaten with? Me: I requested a refund two and a half months ago. I do not want the miner to be shipped now. It was supposed to be shipped in February. I'd like to receive my refund. The order number is stated in the letter and you can refer it to my refund request tickets submitted on https://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/support/index.php? How can we refund if we do not know what order to refund? Me: Are you willing to refund it if I give you my order details. And if so when will you process the refund? Black Arrow: I need to look into your your order to answer to this question. Me: Sorry but that obviously means that you are not willing to process the refund. Sorry but I'm not stupid. Once you confirm you will refund my order and when then I will give you the order number. I only ordered one X3 worth $6,028.15. If you don't confirm then please refer yourself to the order on the letter from the council. Regards, Black Arrow: If you do not wish to receive a refund that is up to you. We will ship your order then. Me: I've got a print screen of this conversation. I'm going to keep sharing it on the forum as long as it is required. You have gone to far again. I won't tolerate your childish threats of refusing to refund my order. If you try to ignore my refund request by sending the miner you will ger your miner back and I will do the best I can for you to take consequences of this. I will use the content of this conversation to support my claims against your comapany. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: terrapinflyer on August 06, 2014, 06:36:13 PM Posting this here because Im sure I will get deleted again.
Now BA is posting my personal info in my trust setting? Do you think I have something to hide BA? Fucking scamming lying pieces of shit. I have absolutely nothing to hide BA. You can post my personal info here since you have already violated my privacy by selling my email address I suppose the only last thing to do is publicly share my name and shipping address for the whole world to see. Unlike you I have worked hard over the last year and some months to build a strong positive reputation here that will not be smeared by your pitiful attempt. I will absolutely not remove my neg feedback now. In fact I will be posting neg feedback every day until you remove my name and address. I urge all other customers to post your experience neg or otherwise in their profile. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Specialkey on August 23, 2014, 04:56:10 AM Hit them Ba posers with metal.
Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: bigredbutton on August 23, 2014, 05:42:52 AM I have all my information together including all converstaions and lies from BA. My refund window and come and gone and nothing from BA but Lies. I am ready to spend double what I spent on miners pursuing legal action aganist these fuckers.
I would love to submit all the information I have if someone already has a case going aganist them. Several months ago I read about some class action thing through the HK government, with links to the case file. Anyone know anything about this? Is there a larger case aganist these guys or is just a bunch of small fries like us all pursing some deadend legal battle? I found this... Just pasting this in here, as I imagine BA will delete it from the self moderated thread. The company is registered in Hong Kong, so the proper agency from what I have been able to find out so far is the Hong Kong Consumer Council. They request some documents and need to establish that this is a Hong Kong registered company before they will agree to pick it up, therefore: Send the annual report http://www.kiwi.nz/blackarrow/PS300015776549_01.pdf along with the documents they have requested. Those documents are: 1. The invoice showing you paid 2 your bank or payment records showing the payment 3. any e-mail or support discussions you've had 4. The annual report referenced above. Here's the link to file a complaint if you decide you want to do that. https://www.consumer.org.hk/cc-complaint/index.php?lang=en Also indicate that their TOS indicates Hong Kong law and paste that in to your message. http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/terms-and-conditions-en.html#purchase 15.2 Applicable law and dispute resolution 16.2 1 This Agreement shall be interpreted and applied in accordance with the law of Hong Kong S.A.R. of PRC. This is all the information they will need to pick this up. They have been very helpful and responsive. If that goes nowhere, Shenzhen Consumer Group, with which I have also been talking and then the lawyers will be next. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Jcga on August 23, 2014, 04:32:22 PM Thx guyz for sharing for those precious links.
After 6 months I just can't handle it no more, this is too much depressin and my moral went down and i'm also unemployed now, i have been silly too much patient. I did ask last night for an Refund and feel better now. I have this question plz : what is BA address, their office please. there is one in their website and another one in their "Annual Report". TIA Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: klintay on August 23, 2014, 05:49:54 PM They have a registered hk company (Company Registration. 1520309).
If you do a hk company search (it is free) you will find more info: https://www.icris.cr.gov.hk I believe their address is: 90 jaffe road wanchai hong kong It is actually really easy to sue people in HK. You don't have to be a HK citizen but you do need to hire someone to represent you in Small Claims Courts (it can't be a lawyer so it is actually cheap to do). Small Claims Court If what you are claiming against a business is less than $50,000 HKD then you are eligible to sue them in Small Claims Court. Why is small claims court good? -lawyers are not allowed in small claims court -The person you are suing cannot counter sue you in small claims court. -You do not have to be a Hong Kong Resident to file a motion with the small claims court -If black arrow fail to show then you will win the claim by default -only transport costs can be claimed in small claims court. -no they can't hire someone from Jamaica and claim the flight as a cost (a Philippine company tried this with my fd and it got thrown out of small claims court) -Once you win, you are given a legal document (Writ of Fieri Facias) saying BA owe you this much in HKD$ -Then you can hire a HK government bailiff to come and collect anything from BA office that is in the value of the amount they owe you Imagine turning up to Black Arrow office in Wan Chai and walking off with a bunch of their PCs and some bitcoin wallets while being protected by the bailiffs and the HK police. How to file a claim for your money back in HK Small Claims Court: http://www.judiciary.gov.hk/en/crt_services/pphlt/html/sc.htm Online Forms: http://www.judiciary.gov.hk/en/crt_services/forms/sc.htm Or maybe just make a formal complaint to this organisation: HK Consumer Complaints Council They recommend you file a complaint against the a local company if as a consumer you come across unfair trade practices, e.g . -goods or services not correspond to description; -delay in delivery; -dissatisfaction to service, http://www.consumer.org.hk/website/ws_en/complaints_and_advices/how_to_complain/howtocomplain.html Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Jcga on August 25, 2014, 12:27:45 AM Thx you guys, very helping, great work.
Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: mazedk on August 25, 2014, 03:34:31 PM Anyone who can tell me how to hard reset an x-1 ?
I'v moved my miners to an offsite location and suddenly one wont take DHCP. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Gleb Gamow on August 25, 2014, 10:20:22 PM So, what's the story with Black Arrow...? It doesn't look like they ever shipped, what's the latest info on them? It's weird suddenly seeing this because I stepped out of the mining scene when Black Arrow was an amazing company. Now I come back and read all this... it seems like no company can keep it's reputation up anymore. When the hell was Black Arrow an amazing company when I figured them a scam within minutes of visiting their thread? Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: nosferatujeff on August 26, 2014, 05:19:12 PM Well you were right, PG, you were right. And man was I wrong.
Any idea on where we can go from here? You seem to have unique insight. If the HK CC was effective, everyone would be doing it. If legal avenues worked, this would have blossomed to a class action. (Not a lawyer just my observations). BFL is doing the same thing in reality, and is a US based company, and is still for all intents and purposes untouched. My guess is company realizes if they deliver anything at any time they are off the hook because of location. Frustrated here and company is non-responsive to an extreme, at least Josh would poke his head out from time to time. Perhaps this can be written off as an investment loss. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Gleb Gamow on August 26, 2014, 05:35:20 PM Well you were right, PG, you were right. And man was I wrong. Any idea on where we can go from here? You seem to have unique insight. If the HK CC was effective, everyone would be doing it. If legal avenues worked, this would have blossomed to a class action. (Not a lawyer just my observations). BFL is doing the same thing in reality, and is a US based company, and is still for all intents and purposes untouched. My guess is company realizes if they deliver anything at any time they are off the hook because of location. Frustrated here and company is non-responsive to an extreme, at least Josh would poke his head out from time to time. Perhaps this can be written off as an investment loss. I also figured AMT out the first time I visited their thread, albeit months late to the party and most the leg work I did had for the most part already been done, but did bring further insight to the table on a continuous basis. Today, I get to go the Sandwich Police Dept. and fill out a complain and possible warrant for Joshua Zipkin for publicly threatening to kill six people (and a dog). Seriously! The very person who claimed that I am unstable has run amok and proven to be himself highly unstable. BTW, Joshua Zipkin has teamed up Alex Sovu in hopes of bringing Jewish-Bulgarian-Gypsy miners to the market. He's already in bed with Dragon. ~Bruno Kucinskas Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: tempestb on August 26, 2014, 05:56:14 PM People say they are calling their lawyers, but nothing ever comes of it. Apparently nobody wants to sink their teeth into Black Arrow for the bitcoins they haven't spent.
It's basically a total loss for a lot of people who are still waiting and may never get anything. A lot of vocal folks who say they are going to do something about it, but haven't. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Pentax on August 28, 2014, 12:24:44 AM People say they are calling their lawyers, but nothing ever comes of it. Apparently nobody wants to sink their teeth into Black Arrow for the bitcoins they haven't spent. It's basically a total loss for a lot of people who are still waiting and may never get anything. A lot of vocal folks who say they are going to do something about it, but haven't. It may look that way, but it is not the case. The wheels turn slowly but they are turning. People that want to see something done should also be doing something. The more complaints that are filed the more seriously this will be taken by the people in Hong Kong and China. Simply because there is not a lot of talking here doesn't mean there is nothing going on. There is plenty moving around on this, however, working with government agencies and lawyers half a world away takes time. They have their processes also and aren't going to step outside them for a handful of bitcoiners. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: greenlion on August 29, 2014, 02:16:41 PM People say they are calling their lawyers, but nothing ever comes of it. Apparently nobody wants to sink their teeth into Black Arrow for the bitcoins they haven't spent. It's basically a total loss for a lot of people who are still waiting and may never get anything. A lot of vocal folks who say they are going to do something about it, but haven't. It may look that way, but it is not the case. The wheels turn slowly but they are turning. People that want to see something done should also be doing something. The more complaints that are filed the more seriously this will be taken by the people in Hong Kong and China. Simply because there is not a lot of talking here doesn't mean there is nothing going on. There is plenty moving around on this, however, working with government agencies and lawyers half a world away takes time. They have their processes also and aren't going to step outside them for a handful of bitcoiners. Everyone affected must file complaints, China doesn't fuck around, if they receive sufficient complaints to draw their attention, the provincial government has the authority to go after BA directly. Thr first step is everyone absolutely must let Hong Kong know that this company is doing fraud over the internet registered in their jurisdiction. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: tempestb on August 30, 2014, 12:29:47 AM But what is that going to do? Do you think Black Arrow will suddenly refund your money or send your miner out? I don't. I think the Government will shut them down and fine them. Ending production completely and any chance of getting anything at all. I agree, that might not matter here shortly if the difficulty keeps rocketing up. However, getting the Chinese cops involved is not going to end up with anyone getting a check in the mail, I'm certain of that.
Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: cdog on August 31, 2014, 01:04:42 AM No crimes occurred, just greed by all partied involved. If you want someone to blame for this mess, look yourself in the mirror.
Without suckers trying to make a quick buck like you to fund it, Black Arrow would never have existed. The truth hurts, I know. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: melmo on August 31, 2014, 09:08:20 PM I am sad to see that Black Arrow didn't deliver - they seemed to be a reliable company that made good on their fpga products. I hemmed and hawed about ordering from them and wound up missing the first round of orders, so I didn't bother. My post from January https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=376370.msg4375020#msg4375020 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=376370.msg4375020#msg4375020) pretty much sums up why I had my doubts and didn't order - a company that sells ATM card skimming devices should make you nervous.
Most likely they just bit off more than they could chew and didn't realize the complexity of delivering an ASIC. If they were truly scammers, then they wouldn't have developed/delivered anything. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Syke on August 31, 2014, 11:33:34 PM Most likely they just bit off more than they could chew and didn't realize the complexity of delivering an ASIC. If they were truly scammers, then they wouldn't have developed/delivered anything. They developed it so they could use it in their own mine. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: SimonBeCoinin on September 07, 2014, 10:19:07 PM from ecointalk:
"Chemek, on 07 Sept 2014 - 5:04 PM, said: Where the fuck is the warning email? My x3 have been running upp to this very moment, and I accidentally went back to the forum to see what's going on. Are you out of your mind? In sure there or others customers who received their x3 and are still note informed." THEY ARE NOT EVEN LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEIR MINERS COULD LITERALLY BURN THEIR HOUSE DOWN. What the hell is wrong with these people. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Pentax on September 09, 2014, 01:56:43 AM Something is fishy with this mining facility. That is obvious. They said in an april update they'd located a new location and then in May that it was done. Now it doesn't exist at all. WTF is going on with that? And if it doesn't exist what is going on with the rent-a-minion program?
Here's the update: (note also the work on the scrypt chip. our money at work) blackarrow Sr. Member **** Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s March 26, 2014, 04:27:50 PM #3153 Bitcoin Miners progress update – 26 March 2014 1.We progressed to The Minion’s 3rd substrate which has been approved and sent to manufacturing 2.The package house has received the minion probe cart wafer. 3.Global Foundries has confirmed the wafer out date. The date is currently 5 days later than their prediction however they are seeking to catch up by optimising the rest of the process. 4.The final version of the X3 hashboard and X1 backplane has been sent to the PCB factory for prototyping 5.The final version of X1 hashboard will arrive this week on Friday. 6.The development team are still optimising the control board. The initial testing is positive: (booting sequence for Linux, network protocols and WiFi connections are ok). The team will focus now debugging the LCD. Testing for the touchscreen should start soon. 7.The modifications to the current setup is dictated by the testing and the quality controls reporting by our teams and suppliers. We concluded the last update to X3 backplane and the case design due to moving the X3 PSU on the left hand side for better heat dissipation. 8.We have received 2 types of PSUs for X3 from 2 vendors, we are testing them. 9.We have started mass production of the heatsinks and X1 power supplies 10.We have received the mounting screw with springs for the heatsinks. After a thorough review the spring technical specifications are not satisfactory. We continue to upgrade the design accordingly and we expect the samples to be ready in 10 days. 11.We approved the design for X3 case and we are in process of negotiating the time frame with our short-listed suppliers. 12.We should complete the final specifications for the fans by the end of this week. 13.We had a demanding schedule in visiting all our suppliers for quality checks and for tracking the agreed aggressive deadlines 14.We are in the final negotiations with our manufacturing partner for power chips. We are seeking a reliable supply of the power chips. 15.We finalised the search for the new facility which will help increasing the power for Rent-A-Minion service. We’re planning to start setting it up as early as next week. 16.The team working on the Scrypt chip continue their busy schedule. They had some new addition to the team to help with the increasing workload. 17.We received a lot of enquiries regarding the LTC chip. The Management decided to focus on delivering the Bitcoin miners currently scheduled and postpone the LTC pre-orders until they have time available to deal with customer support issues that usually arise upon launch of a new complex product. then in May Our facility is ready, will start Rent-A-Minion as soon as we solve the issue with the backplane. now just recently This is interesting. Let me get this clear: We are not mining. It would be impossible to mine as we only have 5kw of power in our office. You can ask Joshua where is our mining facility and we will be happy to this this address to check. wtf is going on here? they deleted a post of bobsags also from around that time : March 26 2014: bobsag3 Sr. Member **** Online Online Activity: 252 Owner, Minersource.net "Let me correct this before it gets out of hand- They are building the additional rent-a-minion facility FOR the compensation plan, not in addition." bobsag is talking about an ADDITIONAL rent-a-minion facility and now they have none? they were clearly doing something to set up this facility. wtf is going on here? are they mining? they deny it, but it would seem that is the most likely scenario. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Gleb Gamow on September 09, 2014, 02:43:58 AM I would also like to note that this is the Chinese company that makes the 800 dollar miners he sent us. http://www.stetc.com Something for people to note when doing business with them. Info gleaned from the same address: https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS549US549&q=%22stetc.com%22+bitcoin&oq=%22stetc.com%22+bitcoin&gs_l=serp.12...0.0.0.9370.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..53.serp..0.0.0.kokC5Hlt61g https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS549US549&biw=1093&bih=508&q=%22sleenet%40vip.qq.com%22&oq=%22sleenet%40vip.qq.com%22&gs_l=serp.12...0.0.0.10360.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..53.serp..0.0.0.XKgKgPfPLrI http://www.baihangcn.com/sell/show-57845.html http://s3.postimg.org/ltpyrod1v/amt_in_china.jpg So, just to confirm I have this right. An independent member on this forum has reached out to a third party. The third party company gave confirmation that Black Arrow is a customer and the specs look accurate. Is that right? in part. of course, yes. So, a third party member who is totally unaffiliated and actually has been doubting us as much as everyone else has contacted a third party company who confirmed we are a customer. I must be missing something because it seems to me like there is still a lot of doubt we are who we say we are. Did you by any chance try to contact the other e-mail address cc'd on your initial e-mail thread with Mr. Huang or Kwang? (I can't remember and I'm not looking through 3 pages to find out) I know PH said that his, Huang/Kwang, was compromised but what about that other gentleman, I thought the consensus was that his apparently hadn't been. http://www.china.cn/taishiji/3361846041.html Quote 13725365850 Guangzhou Teng Instant Software Technology Co. Contact: Mr. Huang Remember when Josh said he's been to BA's facility? IT'S THE SAME MOTHERFUCKIN' BUILDING! Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Gleb Gamow on September 09, 2014, 10:22:33 AM Quote from: Bitcoin Forum A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/black-arrow-bitcoin-mining-accused-censoring-negative-comments/ Ahaha they're fucked now, everyone can see what type of scum they are Quote “We are only deleting posts made by people paid by competition mostly because they started posting personal data of some our management team. We suspect that these persons are paid by competition as they have not purchased from us but they find the resources to be 12-18 hours on the forum trying to put us out of business. 80-100% of their posts are only in Black Arrow’s thread. They will pick up on anything we do and nothing that we do is good enough. We have noticed that these people are very active on these forums since we have announced our 14 nm chip giving us one more reason to suspect that something is fishy here.” This motherfuckin' queer-ass Romanian, Alex Sovu, has lost his motherfuckin' mind! I don't mine. Nobody pays me to post. I don't spend 12-18 hours on this thread to put BA outta business: I only need a half hour at most. Not even 1% of my posts are in BA's thread. The only person we know of that makes up BA's management team is Alex Sovu, and what's posted that may be personal is gleaned from the internet and may not even be accurate. The only thing fishy here is BA's proposed 14nm chip. Alex Sovu, you are one sick motherfucker! Any chance you're related to Joshua Zipkin, for the same MO is at play here. BTW, Black Arrow once claimed that Alex Sovu was JUST a trusted employee and NOT a principal. Of course, we later learnt that that wasn't true due to incorp papers finally making the round. ~Bruno Kucinskas Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Pentax on September 09, 2014, 02:48:12 PM update on lawsuit:
reposted here "All, I have about 50 users so far who've sent details in reply to my posts here, and another 50 or so from bitcointalk.org So far, i have orders recorded at roughly 1 million usd still outstanding in one form or another. By the end of this week i should have enough to present the the legal team so they can start to construct the case to present to the court Smiley Any of you who still wish to add your name to the list, please drop me a mail at bitcz@outlook.com Again, this is direct orders place with BA and not with resellers for Batch 1 and Batch 2" anyone still looking to get on this contact him here: "Please send to bitcz@outlook.com the following details: Order date Rough figure on how much was spent ( please do not supply order numbers yet..this will be a job for the legals to obtain directly from you ) Contact details ( Email will suffice at this stage ) Brief paragraph outlining steps you have taken to resolve issue with BA directly ( i.e. direct communication, complaint to consumer council, local better business bureau, local state senator etc.. ) Expected resolution that would satisfy you ( i.e. full refund, delivery of goods etc ) Bticz" He also has a thread on this forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=772278.msg8710397#msg8710397 Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Pentax on September 09, 2014, 02:50:58 PM reposted from another thread
Alright everybody, here's the deal. I'm the journalist behind the CryptoCoinsNews article about BA responding to the accusations we received in an anonymous news tip. Since then, I've been tipped on a lot of other happenings in the BA world that sound malicious. I'm on mobile, and for some reason can't post the article link. Excellent. If you want to look it up, it's on CCN. So I did the digging, found truth to the accusations, and reached out to BA for response. They responded, so I printed it. If you all notice, I did not take sides. I presented each side, laid everything out on the table (including pictures and facts) and printed their response. BA did not trick me. They simply addressed the accusations. But some people may have took CCNs printing of that to be taking a side, and that side is BA. That's not the case. I need proof. I need something tangible and solid. There's a lot of people here making a lot of claims, that sound really feasible, but I have no facts to print. Submit news tips to CCN with proof, and I'll print it. You want BA's bad side to be shown? Show it to me, with hard evidence. That's what I need to print a story. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Gleb Gamow on September 09, 2014, 05:43:09 PM The PM exchange of the day:
Hey, this is dick for brains Alex Fuck. You delete my posts from your thread, I'll just post them in five other threads and on four others sites across the internet. Are you that motherfuckin' stupid? Oh, before I forget: Go fuck yourself! Dear forum user, Thank you for your feedback. We delete abusive forum users only. Please let me know if there's anything else we can help you with. Do you have an order number? P.S: Who is Alex Fuck? Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: SimonBeCoinin on September 09, 2014, 10:19:03 PM It looks like the shills have showed up in force for this latest piece. People might want to go leave their own comments.
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/black-arrow-bitcoin-mining-battle-whos-telling-truth/#post-42310 Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Gleb Gamow on September 12, 2014, 09:27:35 PM Just got back from being banned for three days due to consecutive posting/bumping. I just posted this on BA's official thread but it was deleted by BA who's online now doing their daily cleanup after fleecing millions from the community, an act that doesn't cause them to be banned in spite of all the proof that such IS the case.
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. http://www.coinssource.com/bitcoin-conference-amsterdam/ "The Black Arrow team was one of the main sponsors of this wonderful event. They have been working extremely hard to produce one of the first 14nm Bitcoin ASIC miners on the planet. Now, it is important to note that these guys stand behind the idea of mining and have no intention of mass producing their products – which could negatively affect the overall market. Furthermore, they have even gone as far as opening their new hardware specifications and drawings so that if someone wanted to build their own, they could! A truly open source hardware. They are Bitcoin veterans who have been following the industry since the beginning. Their passion was very clear, as they have done everything they can in order to take this industry to a new level. You can find more about these hard-working members who have stopped at nothing to bring you these powerful miners on their website here." LOL i don't know how the writer of this blog can write such a shitty text everything is false, this is total bullshit, how much BA payed him ? BA is sponsoring a Bitcoin conference and got no money to refund or do a fair compensation ? LOL BA is really shameless they try to act and look like a "good and friendly" ASIC company because they know they are known to be thieves, but as BFL says "there's a sucker born everyday" so they hope to get new ones with a good looking presentation of them ... what a bunch of scumbags Really? Black Arrow is going to dole out [tens] millions to develop a 14nm chip but has no intentions of selling enough to overcome said cost, not to mention all the other costs associated with building their next gen phantom bitcoin miner. Do you realize how many miners would have to be built to just overcome 14nm development? Hint: A helluva lot more than what the copy implies with, "...have no intention of mass producing their products." Obviously, BA's trying to rewrite Bob Stupak's infamous line with, "We'll lose money on each and every 14nm-based bitcoin miner due to adhering to a limited run, but we'll make it up with phantomware." Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: greenlion on September 12, 2014, 09:37:30 PM The deletions are on almost perfect 15 minute intervals, +/- only a few seconds.
It's an automated script that's targeting certain user accounts. From what I understand the public-facing Bitcointalk API does not support that, so they took the time and effort to develop it directly communicating via https. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Gleb Gamow on September 12, 2014, 10:07:47 PM The deletions are on almost perfect 15 minute intervals, +/- only a few seconds. It's an automated script that's targeting certain user accounts. From what I understand the public-facing Bitcointalk API does not support that, so they took the time and effort to develop it directly communicating via https. Thanks for refreshing my memory, bud. I recalled reading that while on vacation/banned for over-posting/bumping on threads calling out the likes of these fucks. From my calculation, it looks like BA developed this APP right after theymos did this to them: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774278.0 Joshua Zipkin of AMT is on recording in wanting to hack this forum. Josh Zipkin of Advanced Mining Technologies is on record in promising to kill at least a dozen people (and at least one dog), myself included, yet both these fuck get to continue fleecing the bitcoin community while I MUST be on my best behavior to not get banned again so that I can continue to expose these fucks sans compensation, of which I don't desire one fuckin' satoshi for my efforts. HashFast blames me for the reason why their customers couldn't get compensated. BFL Josh calls me out as a liar, in spite of the hundreds examples from other members of the community proving he's the one, not I, lying. I proved that Matt Carson, BA's reseller. didn't move his MO warehouse like he claimed he had prior to packing up his hookah and moving to CO, now owing this customers millions of which he conveniently avoids. He even fucked his own mother outta $20K USD, you think he cares one iota about his clients? Fuckin' madness, if you ask me! ~Bruno Kucinskas Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Dallas5 on September 13, 2014, 07:22:09 PM Be sure to watch this video VERY carefully,removing the caps in your X3 is EXTREMELY complex!!!!!!! ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=564-sYaXYfI#t=45 Jesus Christ this video was publish by BA!? :o :o :o Is this a joke? I've never heard of any company telling their customers to remove electrical parts from their products, wtf? This would probably violate so many laws. Do you think Samsung would release a video explaining to their customers how to replace the speakers from their televisions? Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Pentax on September 13, 2014, 07:43:45 PM Be sure to watch this video VERY carefully,removing the caps in your X3 is EXTREMELY complex!!!!!!! ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=564-sYaXYfI#t=45 Jesus Christ this video was publish by BA!? :o :o :o Is this a joke? I've never heard of any company telling their customers to remove electrical parts from their products, wtf? This would probably violate so many laws. Do you think Samsung would release a video explaining to their customers how to replace the speakers from their televisions? In the world of the Black Arrow customer this is not unusual. Doing this likely to save on shipping cost and/or some other cost. Who cares if you're effin house burns down. Shipping is expensive. I'm not surprised at all. When they didn't simply recall them en masse I assumed they'd try some shit like this. And the people that are shipping the burned up components back? They're paying the shipping on that, according to what I've seen. BA product sucks so bad that your miner starts on fire and you've got to pay return shipping. Black Arrow is the biggest joke of a business I've seen in my entire life and that is saying something. I've seen a lot of shit-shows, but these guys win top prize hands down. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: opieum2 on September 13, 2014, 07:58:39 PM I would recommend if you feel defrauded contact law enforcement. The FBI is a resource to contact. My advice would be to contact the NY office so they start seeing a trend of bitcoin related crimes coming though. This will get quicker attention than if you contact just your local FBI office. It has been proven circumstantially (probable cause here) that AMT and Black Arrow were working together at the same location. Joshua Zipkin is on record stating he did work with them (although later edited his statement BUT it is on wayback machine as proof). IF we as a community ALL OF US do not speak up for ourselves. Law enforcement will do nothing. There is an obvious link between the two companies and their operations and methods. It is important that we have that investigated. Both of the CEOs appear to be on the run now and hiding out in Bulgaria or other parts.
Anyone with intention to refund would NOT be hiding out but facing these matters head on. Make of that what you will. But this is the hard reality of the matter. Contact the FBI. The NY FBI is already aware of this matter. Even if you are an international client, the FBI will get their counterparts involved in this matter on your behalf. It is time to stop bitching on the forums and take this to law enforcement. We have been defrauded plain and simple. These men are building petahash farms and giving speeches on industrial mining all on our money that we gave them. Instead they sent us undervalued garbage. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Pentax on September 13, 2014, 08:01:56 PM Be sure to watch this video VERY carefully,removing the caps in your X3 is EXTREMELY complex!!!!!!! ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=564-sYaXYfI#t=45 Jesus Christ this video was publish by BA!? :o :o :o Is this a joke? I've never heard of any company telling their customers to remove electrical parts from their products, wtf? This would probably violate so many laws. Do you think Samsung would release a video explaining to their customers how to replace the speakers from their televisions? In the world of the Black Arrow customer this is not unusual. Doing this likely to save on shipping cost and/or some other cost. Who cares if you're effin house burns down. Shipping is expensive. I'm not surprised at all. When they didn't simply recall them en masse I assumed they'd try some shit like this. And the people that are shipping the burned up components back? They're paying the shipping on that, according to what I've seen. BA product sucks so bad that your miner starts on fire and you've got to pay return shipping. Black Arrow is the biggest joke of a business I've seen in my entire life and that is saying something. I've seen a lot of shit-shows, but these guys win top prize hands down. The other thing that occurs to me is that if something goes wrong with these things in the future and you worked on them and modified them, there's little doubt in my mind that they'd try to hang it on your ass. I'm not taking delivery of these things and I wouldn't be working on them if I did. Not a chance in hell. and what about your insurance company? your house burns down. there's a another bunch that will try to get out of paying. for all I know it might void your policy outright. I don't know, but people should check. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Unacceptable on September 13, 2014, 09:51:06 PM Be sure to watch this video VERY carefully,removing the caps in your X3 is EXTREMELY complex!!!!!!! ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=564-sYaXYfI#t=45 Jesus Christ this video was publish by BA!? :o :o :o Is this a joke? I've never heard of any company telling their customers to remove electrical parts from their products, wtf? This would probably violate so many laws. Do you think Samsung would release a video explaining to their customers how to replace the speakers from their televisions? No joke!!! I found it here: http://ecointalk.net/topic/1397-guide-to-removal-of-1500uf-electrolytic-capacitors/ Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: SimonBeCoinin on September 14, 2014, 01:28:09 AM Be sure to watch this video VERY carefully,removing the caps in your X3 is EXTREMELY complex!!!!!!! ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=564-sYaXYfI#t=45 Jesus Christ this video was publish by BA!? :o :o :o Is this a joke? I've never heard of any company telling their customers to remove electrical parts from their products, wtf? This would probably violate so many laws. Do you think Samsung would release a video explaining to their customers how to replace the speakers from their televisions? No joke!!! I found it here: http://ecointalk.net/topic/1397-guide-to-removal-of-1500uf-electrolytic-capacitors/ This video on trying to stop your miner catching on fire brought to you by the people that claim your miner cannot catch on fire. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: bitdik on September 16, 2014, 04:38:07 PM Did anybody notice that cloud mining has been removed from the BA website, X1s are 'out of stock', and no prices are being displayed anymore:
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/cloud-mining/ Also, I have not seen any forum posts by BA on here or ecoin, are they packing their stuff, and closing shop? Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Vcore on September 16, 2014, 05:20:00 PM WTF! Removing caps like that can easily leave the pieces of the leads attached to the pcb and cause a massive short.
Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: greenlion on September 16, 2014, 07:02:27 PM WTF! Removing caps like that can easily leave the pieces of the leads attached to the pcb and cause a massive short. Not to mention manually twisting them off with your hands while they still hold charge. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: CryptoGuy on September 16, 2014, 07:12:27 PM WTF! Removing caps like that can easily leave the pieces of the leads attached to the pcb and cause a massive short. Not to mention manually twisting them off with your hands while they still hold charge. Personal safety and customer service are not BA's prerogative. Separating you from your BTC/fiat is all they care about. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Gleb Gamow on September 17, 2014, 12:32:30 AM Right on schedule: Today at 07:30:05 PM Deleted Post
Quote from: Bitcoin Forum A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote So did everyone stop posting here all of a sudden or is BA just deleting all the posts? BCT is allowing BA to continue running their auto-delete bot every 15 minutes. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: bitdik on September 19, 2014, 07:32:12 AM Check this criminal update on their facebook:
Black Arrow 18 hours ago A lot of people are asking about the PSU issue in the X3. A small percentage of the PSUs fail due to a capacitor problem. At this point only one report of a fire and the photos submitted didn't reflect an actual fire. If anyone has had an actual fire, please post photos here. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Black-Arrow/477655819009178 Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Pentax on September 19, 2014, 12:34:20 PM Check this criminal update on their facebook: Black Arrow 18 hours ago A lot of people are asking about the PSU issue in the X3. A small percentage of the PSUs fail due to a capacitor problem. At this point only one report of a fire and the photos submitted didn't reflect an actual fire. If anyone has had an actual fire, please post photos here. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Black-Arrow/477655819009178 I've seen similar logic in response to an online article from that Lexx2k that posts here, that is more than likely a BA employee, as he talks about testing miners. Assuming that it is the same wackadoodle poster, which is a pretty good assumption also. Anyway, in the comments to that article this cuckoo-bird says: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/black-arrow-bitcoin-mining-battle-whos-telling-truth/?paged=3 "Proves my point, Show me a Fire?? I’ll repeat there is nothing to burn, PCB can melt and produce large amounts of smoke, but not burn, i will ask again show me fire on any of the pictures. Smoke does not mean fire not in all cases." So there was no fire IN THE PICTURES, so there was no fire. As if what someone should have done was go get their camera and take a picture while it was still on fire instead of putting the fire out and THEN taking pictures. Maybe a nice selfie with a Black Arrow incendiary device burning merrily in the background like the yule log on Christmas Day. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: kfactor on September 19, 2014, 01:44:47 PM Maybe a nice selfie with a Black Arrow incendiary device burning merrily in the background like the yule log on Christmas Day. I would pay money to see this :D Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Gleb Gamow on September 20, 2014, 01:14:52 AM Quote from: Bitcoin Forum A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote The first orders are expected to be shipped at the end of February 2014. --- At today’s Bitcoin price and network hashing rate, X-1 would return $682 in 15 days and X-3 would return $13845 in 15 days (1). --- (1) As Bitcoin network is currently growing, we expect that the actual revenue by the time of shipment to be lower than this. Yes. Very Very Very much lower than this. You're going to be delivering end of Feb (the target). By the time that date rolls around, your top of the line machine will be barely making $200-300 a month. Pitiful. 6 months away is just wayyyyy too far off. And my post will probably be deleted but yeah, hopefully a few people may be able to see my message before it becomes so. Sorry to disappoint you, we are only deleting off-topic posts. Our view is that Bitcoin Mining is going to live more than the next 6 months. Our promise to our customers is that we'll deliver the most efficient chip and will practice a minimal profit. At the time of the actual shipment we'll make sure that we sell our chip at the market price or lower. All pre-orders will benefit of the same discount by the time that we start shipping. No longer you'll pre-order a hardware today just to discover 3 days later that others can pre-order it at 1/3 of the price you've paid. To prove this post is a lie, I predict this reply will be automatically deleted by a bot Black Arrow has in place at exactly 8:00:05 PM CST. http://s14.postimg.org/g80ho7z9t/ba_ba.jpg Nailed it! Right to the second. That makes Alex Sovu of Black Arrow one big motherfuckin' liar. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: bitdik on September 21, 2014, 02:56:01 PM Is it me, or has BA been suspiciously quiet lately? Also their mod'ed thread doesn't seem to be actively monitored anymore. No replies on support (nothing new there), no updates, no shills.
Almost seems that they already packed up shop and left the sinking ship. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: greenlion on September 21, 2014, 06:18:46 PM Is it me, or has BA been suspiciously quiet lately? Also their mod'ed thread doesn't seem to be actively monitored anymore. No replies on support (nothing new there), no updates, no shills. Almost seems that they already packed up shop and left the sinking ship. They've done this exact thing several times in the past already. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: terrapinflyer on September 22, 2014, 07:47:02 PM I just came across this.
the black arrow conspiracy a company born to scam (http://www.coinfinance.com/news/the-black-arrow-conspiracy-a-company-born-to-scam#.VCBntxuh280.reddit) Time to fill up the comments with some more useful information... Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: bitdik on September 24, 2014, 06:42:25 AM There is hope!
http://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2014/09/ftcs-request-court-halts-bogus-bitcoin-mining-operation Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: CryptoGuy on September 25, 2014, 04:04:18 PM Just posting here since it'll likely be deleted on BA's thread.
Posted by Truth_Seeker at ecointalk (http://ecointalk.net/topic/392-black-arrow-weekly-production-update/page-496#entry19259), thought it would also be good to have here in case BA deletes it (as they are wont to do): Quote Truth_Seeker, on 24 Sept 2014 - 7:20 PM, said: I suggest everyone makes a police report ASAP. Links: Hong Kong police cyber crime department because their corps are in Hong Kong https://secure1.info.gov.hk/police/eforms/report_cyber_crime_en.php UK Action Fraud because their banking is in the UK http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/ The names you should mention are Daniel Andronic -> Facebook page -> https://www.facebook.com/daniel.andronic.77 The bank information of black arrow is as follows: Beneficiary company name: Destino LIMITED Beneficiary company address: Edwards Place, 240 Kings Road, Reading, RG1 4NY, United Kingdom Message to beneficiary: >>> fill in here your order number. For exampleOrder #3333 <<< Beneficiary bank name: Metro Bank Beneficiary bank address: 201 Broad Street Mall, Reading, RG 1 7QA, United Kingdom Beneficiary country: United Kingdom Swift code: MYMBGB2LXXX Please select your preferred currency on our website in order to obtain the total amount of your order and pay to one of these accounts: EUR Account Number: 13633018, Sort Code: 23-05-80, IBAN:GB31MYMB23058013633018 USD Account number: 13633045, Sort Code: 23-05-80, IBAN:GB78MYMB23058013633045 GBP Account Number: 13631317, Sort Code: 23-05-80, IBAN:GB77MYMB23058013631317 I suggest everyone do this before they delete my post because this forum is owned by them! I just sent my report to the HK Police - it took all of 5 minutes. I didn't report to UK Action Fraud because I'm an early customer and wired my money directly to a HK bank. As the BFL smackdown shows, if enough people complain, the authorities have to respond at some point. If you're a BA victim, you don't have anything to lose anyway, because they are refusing refunds and only slowly ship now-worthless (or even exploding) mining equipment. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: bitdik on October 13, 2014, 07:38:43 AM Can you provide any information of someone that can represent me in Small Claims Court?
They have a registered hk company (Company Registration. 1520309). If you do a hk company search (it is free) you will find more info: https://www.icris.cr.gov.hk I believe their address is: 90 jaffe road wanchai hong kong It is actually really easy to sue people in HK. You don't have to be a HK citizen but you do need to hire someone to represent you in Small Claims Courts (it can't be a lawyer so it is actually cheap to do). Small Claims Court If what you are claiming against a business is less than $50,000 HKD then you are eligible to sue them in Small Claims Court. Why is small claims court good? -lawyers are not allowed in small claims court -The person you are suing cannot counter sue you in small claims court. -You do not have to be a Hong Kong Resident to file a motion with the small claims court -If black arrow fail to show then you will win the claim by default -only transport costs can be claimed in small claims court. -no they can't hire someone from Jamaica and claim the flight as a cost (a Philippine company tried this with my fd and it got thrown out of small claims court) -Once you win, you are given a legal document (Writ of Fieri Facias) saying BA owe you this much in HKD$ -Then you can hire a HK government bailiff to come and collect anything from BA office that is in the value of the amount they owe you Imagine turning up to Black Arrow office in Wan Chai and walking off with a bunch of their PCs and some bitcoin wallets while being protected by the bailiffs and the HK police. How to file a claim for your money back in HK Small Claims Court: http://www.judiciary.gov.hk/en/crt_services/pphlt/html/sc.htm Online Forms: http://www.judiciary.gov.hk/en/crt_services/forms/sc.htm Or maybe just make a formal complaint to this organisation: HK Consumer Complaints Council They recommend you file a complaint against the a local company if as a consumer you come across unfair trade practices, e.g . -goods or services not correspond to description; -delay in delivery; -dissatisfaction to service, http://www.consumer.org.hk/website/ws_en/complaints_and_advices/how_to_complain/howtocomplain.html Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: bitdik on October 14, 2014, 07:15:05 AM Seems that this is their automated response nowadays:
Note the footer: Please note that all our sales, services and communications are subject to our terms and conditions and your reply to this email will be considered an agreement to our terms and conditions from this webpage: http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/legal.html LOL! These people are so retarded it's just funny. Dear Customer, We have shipped and delivered your order as per our agreed and signed terms and conditions. We have been informed by DHL that you are refusing to accept the package. Please note that you are not entitled for a refund (as agreed in our terms and conditions). Your refusal to receive your order will either lead to the destruction of your goods or we might accept it as gift to us and send it to other customer. In any case, we will NOT issue you with any refund and our contract has now been fulfilled. For your peace of mind, please read again the terms and conditions signed and agreed by you when you have placed the order (http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/legal.html) Delivery Terms 9.1 The Products are delivered to the delivery address specified by the Purchaser, unless otherwise agreed. The delivery date is provided for information purposes only and shall not be binding on Us. The Purchaser is not entitled to refuse acceptance of the Products, withdraw, cancel or revoke the order or make claims for compensation due to any delayed delivery. Cancelling your order does not entitle you to any refund: 11.3 The Purchaser understands and agrees that we will use his payment in order to purchase the necessary materials or pay workmanship required to fulfill his pre-order which will be non-refundable if cancelled. For this reason, the purchaser hereby gives us the right and agrees with our decision to decline any requests from him or third parties to cancel his pre-order. Please note, that we will refuse DHL to return your package. Should you choose to let DHL destroy it, that is your option; it is your merchandise, you can do whatever you want with it (as long it is for legal purposes only). If you want to give it to us as a gift ( no refund will be issued! ), please let us know and we'll inform DHL to deliver to another customer. Warning: If you choose to take no action and ignore this message, your package will stay with DHL until they will destroy it. Regards, Black Arrow Team Regards, Black Arrow Team Please note that all our sales, services and communications are subject to our terms and conditions and your reply to this email will be considered an agreement to our terms and conditions from this webpage: http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/legal.html Confidentiality Notice: This communication, its content and any file attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential proprietary information. Access by any other party without the express written permission of the sender is unauthorised. If you have received this communication in error you may not copy, distribute or use the contents, attachments or information in any way. Please destroy it and contact the sender. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: tempestb on October 14, 2014, 02:27:27 PM I'm no lawyer, but my understanding of Chinese law is that contracts are what amounts to consumer protection. If they follow the letter of the contract, in China, this is legal. In the United States you have organizations like the FTC that have rules that trump any contract. But they have no enforcement in China. It's one of those hard lessons I've learned about doing business with China directly and not having a middle-man (And why Alibaba is popular, because it acts like the middle-man)
China has adopted some consumer protection laws recently, but I'm not sure if they trump contracts like the FTC does in the U.S. Only a lawyer with knowledge of Chinese law is really going to be able to tell you if you have a shot at taking them to court and winning. And whether it's worth the time and money. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Dallas5 on October 14, 2014, 05:47:02 PM I'm no lawyer, but my understanding of Chinese law is that contracts are what amounts to consumer protection. If they follow the letter of the contract, in China, this is legal. In the United States you have organizations like the FTC that have rules that trump any contract. But they have no enforcement in China. It's one of those hard lessons I've learned about doing business with China directly and not having a middle-man (And why Alibaba is popular, because it acts like the middle-man) China has adopted some consumer protection laws recently, but I'm not sure if they trump contracts like the FTC does in the U.S. Only a lawyer with knowledge of Chinese law is really going to be able to tell you if you have a shot at taking them to court and winning. And whether it's worth the time and money. I used Minersource as a middle man still no refund after months of waiting and many promises. But at least as you state I can get the FTC involved. About BA I do believe you can't make an agreement binding if it contradicts the countries laws. I hope everyone will be compensated or refunded before the end of the year, but I fear something like what happened to butterfly labs must happen first. Title: Re: Black Arrow X-1 and X-3 (not modded by Black Arrow) Thread Post by: Sonix711 on January 16, 2017, 12:01:20 AM Hey everyone :)
Just wanted to say that it appears that the main forum for the X1 and X3 on the ecointalk.net forum website no longer works. This is the link to the forum archive on WayBack Machine in case it helps anyone... - https://web.archive.org/web/20160414051942/http://ecointalk.net/ Here is my dropbox share for the files that I use to fix my Android X1 - make sure you use the correct firmware for your X1 as I think there were 2 different control boards that were used, so using the wrong firmware will brick your miner... !!! - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xhn0giori7u2k5a/AAAF9mRpJS3ZCKjtLjvSXqn_a?dl=0 If your having problems flashing your firmware, make sure your using a Micro SD card thats 8GB minimum - I wouldn't go larger than 16GB or 32GB really either...??? I have a dedicated 8GB X1 reflash Micro SD card that I don't use for anything else...creating the Micro SD card from the image wipes / overwrites the card your using... !!! I only have the firmware file for my X1, but if anyone has the other firmware file or anything else relevant, I'll upload it to my dropbox share too... I remember Jumbley and Stuart from Logic Ethos were great forum members on ecointalk.net if that helps anyone aswell... I'm sure there were other great forum members on there too... and on here... :) You can also find me on Youtube... :) Think thats all I got... Cheers everyone - take care... :) Sonix711. |