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Title: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 22, 2015, 11:57:40 PM
Attn:

  Our first double winner alh   congrats!

New thread is here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012578.0
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So we went from the 8 of March to March 22nd  we dropped in diff to  (-1.50%)  Current coinbase price is 270 usd

alh won the last promo.

I self mod this due to seriouscoin.

 


Suchmoon will do a new   promo

OFFICIAL RULES FOR THE MOST ACCURATE GUESS REWARD


are here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=964922.msg10550525#msg10550525
(in other words, nothing has changed since the previous cycle except there is of course a new deadline).

the deadline is 2:00 AM UTC March 29


I will pick (-1.11%)  which is  -1.01 to  -1.25 range this time I will take the entire range for me myself and I.

All other ranges are open.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 23, 2015, 12:12:13 AM
space

open for pick and your other specs.

alh was the winner


I have -1.01 to -1.25%    with my real pick as -1.11%


feel free to pick away boys and girls


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: RoadStress on March 23, 2015, 12:18:11 AM
-2.25 to -2.49


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: coinits on March 23, 2015, 12:19:45 AM
-0.26 to -0.50% guessing -0.37%


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 23, 2015, 12:22:51 AM
Im going to go with -.76 to -1 please :)


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 23, 2015, 12:24:14 AM
-2.25 to -2.49

-2.26 to -2.50  Roadstress


-1.01  to -1.25 philipma1957
-0.76  to -1.00 notlist3d

-0.26 to  -0.50 coinits


right now bitcoinwisdom   https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty        has us at   (-2.51%)


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: edonkey on March 23, 2015, 12:27:18 AM
I'm outta cats so I asked one of our fish. The clownfish says -1.51 to -1.75.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 23, 2015, 12:30:07 AM
-2.25 to -2.49

-2.26 to -2.50  Roadstress

-1.51 to  -1.76 edonkey

-1.01  to -1.25 philipma1957
-0.76  to -1.00 notlist3d

-0.26 to  -0.50 coinits


right now bitcoinwisdom   https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty        has us at   (-2.51%)


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Jamphone on March 23, 2015, 12:34:40 AM
-0.51 to -0.75 please


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Kexkey on March 23, 2015, 12:41:53 AM
+0.51 to +0.75 for me!

Thanks!!


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Mikestang on March 23, 2015, 12:47:28 AM
-2.00 to -2.25


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: tlhIlwI on March 23, 2015, 12:50:27 AM
+3.76 to +4.00


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: ezeminer on March 23, 2015, 12:50:47 AM
+0.76 to +1.00 with my guess at 0.77


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: valkir on March 23, 2015, 01:26:43 AM
-1.26 to -1.5 for me plz!  ;D


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on March 23, 2015, 01:27:32 AM
Thanks philipma1957 for posting the deadline.

BTC price seems to have stopped falling, no radical new hardware has shown up, looks like we shouldn't expect a big diff change.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Quickseller on March 23, 2015, 01:37:41 AM
I am guessing -1.76 to -2.00% this time around. My 'for bragging rights' bet would actually be -2.26 to -2.5, however that spot is taken and I am not sure we will drop more then 2.5%


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 23, 2015, 01:42:01 AM
@ suchmoon no worries my pleasure  to help set it up.



-2.26 to -2.50  Roadstress-------- this was corrected from -2.25 to -2.49
-2.01 to -2.25  Mikestang--------- this was corrected from -2.00 to -2.25
-1.76 to -2.00 Quickseller
-1.51 to -1.75 edonkey
-1.26 to -1.50 valkir
-1.01  to -1.25 philipma1957
-0.76  to -1.00 notlist3d
-0.51 to -0.75  Jamphone
-0.26 to  -0.50 coinits


+0.51 to +0.75 Kexkey
+0.76 to +1.00 ezeminer




+3.51 to +3.75 wpt1wpt1 ------------this was corrected from +3.51 to +3.76%
+3.76 to +4.00 tlhIlwI


  https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

        has us at   (-2.73%)  price = 272 at coinbase   and 2008 blocks to go


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: wpt1wpt1 on March 23, 2015, 02:45:47 AM
I am guessing +3.51 to +3.76% this time around.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: tertius993 on March 23, 2015, 06:51:25 AM
+3.01 to +3.25 please


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: zebedee on March 23, 2015, 07:24:11 AM
+2.26 to +2.50 please


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Mikestang on March 23, 2015, 07:52:29 AM
Bitmain has started shipping S5s, wonder if they'll be bringing more online in there own pool as well.  Interesting to see if these batches of S5s have any impact on difficulty.

Shipping for AntMiner S5 Batch 5 has started from today by batches ;) ;) ;)
Please check tracking number in your account directly.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: davejh on March 23, 2015, 08:12:02 AM
I'll go with +0.26 to +0.50 this time thanks :-)

I'm still puzzling about the run of low block finding rates at the end of the last difficulty change. Not sure if this was just unusual luck or something offline but will be interesting to see over the next few days.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Medow on March 23, 2015, 08:42:30 AM
I will go with -4.01 to -4.25


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 23, 2015, 10:21:49 AM
Bitmain has started shipping S5s, wonder if they'll be bringing more online in there own pool as well.  Interesting to see if these batches of S5s have any impact on difficulty.

Shipping for AntMiner S5 Batch 5 has started from today by batches ;) ;) ;)
Please check tracking number in your account directly.

On the Bitmain website they say about the batch "This is the last round of production for AntMiner S5, and Batch 5 will be the second-to-last batch of S5 units to be sold."

So will be interesting if they have something planed out for next gen sooner then I thought.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: SunnyIgor on March 23, 2015, 10:28:28 AM
+2,01 ---- 2,25

Is my guess for this time.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 23, 2015, 10:34:44 AM
Still a while to go but:

Bitcoin Difficulty:    46,717,549,645
Estimated Next Difficulty:    45,354,130,082 (-2.92%)
Adjust time:    After 1958 Blocks, About 13.8 days

I would love to have another negative this week.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: tarmi on March 23, 2015, 12:05:37 PM
- 2.51 % to - 2.76 %


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 23, 2015, 12:30:14 PM
-4.01 to -4.25 Medow

 5 or six spots


-2.51 to -2.75  tarmi--------------this was  corrected from -2.51 to -2.76
-2.26 to -2.50  Roadstress-------- this was corrected from -2.25 to -2.49
-2.01 to -2.25  Mikestang--------- this was corrected from -2.00 to -2.25
-1.76 to -2.00 Quickseller
-1.51 to -1.75 edonkey
-1.26 to -1.50 valkir
-1.01  to -1.25 philipma1957
-0.76  to -1.00 notlist3d
-0.51 to -0.75  Jamphone
-0.26 to  -0.50 coinits

2 spots and 2x payoff 0  

+0.26 to +0.50 davejh
+0.51 to +0.75 Kexkey
+0.76 to +1.00 ezeminer

3 or 4 spots

+2.01 to +2.25 SunnyIgor
+2.26 to =2.50 zebedee

two spots

+3.01 to +3.25 tertius993
+3.51 to +3.75 wpt1wpt1 ------------this was corrected from +3.51 to +3.76%
+3.76 to +4.00 tlhIlwI

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty
  

        has us at   (-3.02%)  price = 268 at coinbase   and 1947 blocks to go


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 23, 2015, 12:40:39 PM
Bitmain has started shipping S5s, wonder if they'll be bringing more online in there own pool as well.  Interesting to see if these batches of S5s have any impact on difficulty.

Shipping for AntMiner S5 Batch 5 has started from today by batches ;) ;) ;)
Please check tracking number in your account directly.

On the Bitmain website they say about the batch "This is the last round of production for AntMiner S5, and Batch 5 will be the second-to-last batch of S5 units to be sold."

So will be interesting if they have something planed out for next gen sooner then I thought.

Well it came out around dec s5  and last batch ships in June .
The s-1 came out around dec   and last batch shipped in June the s3's arrived in July.

So I guess the s7's arrive in July?
Of course this means not much room for the s6's
Time will tell.
 

In the mean time the Avalon 4.1 as nice a piece of gear as it is. Still costs too much I did the review on it and I have 3 of them,

 but at 6.15 btc for a 3 pack shipping included to the USA it cost too much.


1650 usd  for  2300gh when clocked to .51watts per gh same as the s-5

1505 usd for   4600gh    when stock clocked for 4 s-5's

avalon simply chose to mine their gear rather then sell to us.


I think we grow a little this diff adjustment but I stay committed to my -1.01 to -1.25 as it includes -1.11%


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on March 23, 2015, 01:04:42 PM
Bitmain has started shipping S5s, wonder if they'll be bringing more online in there own pool as well.  Interesting to see if these batches of S5s have any impact on difficulty.

Shipping for AntMiner S5 Batch 5 has started from today by batches ;) ;) ;)
Please check tracking number in your account directly.

Looking at their hashnest numbers it seems their are deploying 1-2 PH/s per week at most. That's probably their production capacity. Shouldn't make too much impact on diff, and this batch was overpriced I think.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: SimplisticStu on March 23, 2015, 02:10:08 PM
+1.26 - 1.50% is my guess please and thank you  ;D


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: mavericklm on March 23, 2015, 02:48:44 PM
+1.26 - 1.50% is my guess please and thank you  ;D

+1.25% and the rest under that


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on March 23, 2015, 04:10:41 PM
+1.26 - 1.50% is my guess please and thank you  ;D

+1.25% and the rest under that

+1.01 to 1.25% ? just making sure.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: mavericklm on March 23, 2015, 04:15:00 PM
yepp, that one ;D

this time i got in a bit earlier, so maybe i get better luck this time

anyway is just a perfect time to be a miner and btc holder!


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Amph on March 23, 2015, 04:53:05 PM
it will rise,  oh sry ten i pick this +0.01 +0.25


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Chris_Sabian on March 23, 2015, 06:59:35 PM
-5.05 to -5.30%


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on March 23, 2015, 07:06:32 PM
it will rise,  but i want to stay neutral -0.5 +0.5

For reward purposes you might want to pick a 0.25% range that's not taken. I think +0.01 to +0.25 and -0.01 to -0.25 are available, so I would assume +0.01 to +0.25 since you mentioned "will rise". Let me know if you want a different one.

-5.05 to -5.30%


I'll adjust that to -5.01 to -5.25% to fit within the rules.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Chris_Sabian on March 23, 2015, 07:14:15 PM
it will rise,  but i want to stay neutral -0.5 +0.5

For reward purposes you might want to pick a 0.25% range that's not taken. I think +0.01 to +0.25 and -0.01 to -0.25 are available, so I would assume +0.01 to +0.25 since you mentioned "will rise". Let me know if you want a different one.

-5.05 to -5.30%


I'll adjust that to -5.01 to -5.25% to fit within the rules.

Typed that wrong.  Good catch.  Thanks.  My new predication is:

-5.01 to -5.25%


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: HerbPean on March 23, 2015, 08:38:44 PM
+1.26-1.50
thanks


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on March 23, 2015, 08:41:30 PM
+1.26-1.50
thanks

That's taken by SimplisticStu.

+1.51 to +1.75 perhaps?


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: HerbPean on March 23, 2015, 09:30:33 PM
+1.26-1.50
thanks

That's taken by SimplisticStu.

+1.51 to +1.75 perhaps?

Sold thanks


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: SimplisticStu on March 23, 2015, 09:32:25 PM
+1.26-1.50
thanks

That's taken by SimplisticStu.

+1.51 to +1.75 perhaps?

Sold thanks

Sowwy  ;D


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: jmumich on March 23, 2015, 09:32:58 PM
I'll take 1.76-2% if it is available.

Live tracker remains up. Hopefully some new data and analysis as well during this period. The data was a bit screwed up on the last day of the last difficulty period as I hadn't set things up to handle a negative difficulty adjustment properly. So I'm 0-2, first time I missed the daylight saving change, this time wasn't prepared for negative adjustment. Hopefully third time is a charm.

If there's anything you'd like to see let me know. I'm constantly tinkering with it and try to leave notes as to what I'm doing.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g



Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Korbman on March 23, 2015, 10:53:49 PM
I'll take +2.76% to +3.00%


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 24, 2015, 01:02:05 AM
-5.01 to -5.25 Chris_Sabian

-4.01 to -4.25 Medow

 5 or six spots


-2.51 to -2.75  tarmi--------------this was  corrected from -2.51 to -2.76
-2.26 to -2.50  Roadstress-------- this was corrected from -2.25 to -2.49
-2.01 to -2.25  Mikestang--------- this was corrected from -2.00 to -2.25
-1.76 to -2.00 Quickseller
-1.51 to -1.75 edonkey
-1.26 to -1.50 valkir
-1.01  to -1.25 philipma1957
-0.76  to -1.00 notlist3d
-0.51 to -0.75  Jamphone
-0.26 to  -0.50 coinits

2 spots and 2x payoff 0  

+0.26 to  +0.50 davejh
+0.51 to  +0.75 Kexkey
+0.76 to  +1.00 ezeminer
+1.01 to  +1.25 mavericklm
+1.26 to  +1.50  SimplisticStu
+1.51 to  +1.75  HerbPean
+1.76 to  +2.00 jmumich
+2.01 to  +2.25 SunnyIgor
+2.26 to  +2.50 zebedee


+2.76 to +3.00 Korbman
+3.01 to +3.25 tertius993
+3.51 to +3.75 wpt1wpt1 ------------this was corrected from +3.51 to +3.76%
+3.76 to +4.00 tlhIlwI


Amph

it will rise,  but i want to stay neutral -0.5 +0.5

you can take -0.25 to -0.01

you can take 0.00  hard to hit but you get .2 coins

you can take  +0.01 to +0.25


but -0.5 to +0.5  is out side the rules

note I sent a pm asking for a correction from Amph


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 24, 2015, 03:17:39 AM
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty  (-1.67%)  BTC/USD = 263.97

Bitcoin Difficulty:   46,717,549,645
Estimated Next Difficulty:   45,937,913,305 (-1.67%)
Adjust time:   After 1841 Blocks, About 12.7 days
Hashrate(?):   344,144,558 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 9.9 minutes
3 blocks: 29.8 minutes
6 blocks: 59.5 minutes
Updated:   23:15 (1.6 minutes ago)



1841 blocks to go.

jmumich   3rd crack at google sheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

very early but +6.34%   with 175 made against 165 expected

A lot of people  wondered why we got cold right at the end.  maybe some one turned 10ph off the last day and put it back on today.

people keep an eye out on google sheets you have a while to pick the 29th.  maybe this is a big bounce back jump.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 24, 2015, 04:04:44 AM
I'm hoping 6 turns out to be high.  But hard to tell this early.  Once next gen chips come out I think we will skyrocket.  So far everyone is very very quiet about their chips it seems.

And I could be out of it but I wonder if litecoin difficulty of "Mar 19 2015    34,843    -14.53%    997,667 MH/s" was anyone switching over to BTC from Scrypt gear.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: jmumich on March 24, 2015, 04:13:37 AM
I'm hoping 6 turns out to be high.  But hard to tell this early.  Once next gen chips come out I think we will skyrocket.  So far everyone is very very quiet about their chips it seems.

And I could be out of it but I wonder if litecoin difficulty of "Mar 19 2015    34,843    -14.53%    997,667 MH/s" was anyone switching over to BTC from Scrypt gear.

It's real early - if today (3/24) is like 3/14 (129 blocks solved), we're right back to 0%. In another 48 hours or so we should have a good idea +/- 3% of where we'll be based on the way things have been going.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: jmumich on March 24, 2015, 05:31:26 AM

A lot of people  wondered why we got cold right at the end.  maybe some one turned 10ph off the last day and put it back on today.


The difficulty drop itself could have been enough to cause some to turn back on.

In addition, I don't think a single 164 block day is any reason to think that a large amount of hashing power came on. We'll know more in a couple days. That's why the predictions that include data from the previous difficulty period are more accurate. I'm trying to work on one of those, but it's a bit tough estimating something that (1) has natural statistical variance, and (2) has actual and somewhat unpredictable growth (positive or negative).


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Amph on March 24, 2015, 06:46:43 AM
it will rise,  but i want to stay neutral -0.5 +0.5

For reward purposes you might want to pick a 0.25% range that's not taken. I think +0.01 to +0.25 and -0.01 to -0.25 are available, so I would assume +0.01 to +0.25 since you mentioned "will rise". Let me know if you want a different one.

-5.05 to -5.30%


I'll adjust that to -5.01 to -5.25% to fit within the rules.

yeah i picked +0.01 + 0.25, i thought it was possible to have a range from - to +


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 24, 2015, 11:31:45 AM
-5.01 to -5.25 Chris_Sabian

-4.01 to -4.25 Medow

 5 or six spots


-2.51 to   -2.75  tarmi--------------this was  corrected from -2.51 to -2.76
-2.26 to   -2.50  Roadstress-------- this was corrected from -2.25 to -2.49
-2.01 to   -2.25  Mikestang--------- this was corrected from -2.00 to -2.25
-1.76 to   -2.00 Quickseller
-1.51 to   -1.75 edonkey
-1.26 to   -1.50 valkir
-1.01  to  -1.25 philipma1957
-0.76  to  -1.00 notlist3d
-0.51 to   -0.75  Jamphone
-0.26 to   -0.50 coinits
-0.01 to   -0.25  MegaFall

0.00 is open

+0.01 to  +0.25 Amph
+0.26 to  +0.50 davejh
+0.51 to  +0.75 Kexkey
+0.76 to  +1.00 ezeminer
+1.01 to  +1.25 mavericklm
+1.26 to  +1.50  SimplisticStu
+1.51 to  +1.75  HerbPean
+1.76 to  +2.00 jmumich
+2.01 to  +2.25 SunnyIgor
+2.26 to  +2.50 zebedee


+2.76 to +3.00 Korbman
+3.01 to +3.25 tertius993
+3.51 to +3.75 wpt1wpt1 ------------this was corrected from +3.51 to +3.76%
+3.76 to +4.00 tlhIlwI


Amph  thanks for correction



Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: adaseb on March 24, 2015, 11:56:47 AM
Yikes! Both days are over +10% and BTC/USD is crashing.

Not looking good for us miners!


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 24, 2015, 12:40:22 PM
Yikes! Both days are over +10% and BTC/USD is crashing.

Not looking good for us miners!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211


 It Is (+9.24%) and price is 258.  Ugh


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: adaseb on March 24, 2015, 12:41:26 PM
Yikes! Both days are over +10% and BTC/USD is crashing.

Not looking good for us miners!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211


 It Is (+9.24%) and price is 258.  Ugh

Are these the S5 Batch 5 miners being powered up? I didn't think they sold that many of them, only maybe 300 units or so.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 24, 2015, 12:42:48 PM
Yikes! Both days are over +10% and BTC/USD is crashing.

Not looking good for us miners!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211


 It Is (+9.24%) and price is 258.  Ugh

Are these the S5 Batch 5 miners being powered up? I didn't think they sold that many of them, only maybe 300 units or so.

If anything I think they should be powered down.  People were getting shipping notices.

Yea if +10 that is a lot more then we wanted.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: valkir on March 24, 2015, 01:32:01 PM
Wondering how bitcoin wisdom work. If you check next difficulty is -0.67% (24-03-2015 9:30) and on the google sheet it is +9.79%

Who is the better to guess??


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on March 24, 2015, 01:54:39 PM
Wondering how bitcoin wisdom work. If you check next difficulty is -0.67% (24-03-2015 9:30) and on the google sheet it is +9.79%

Who is the better to guess??

Bitcoinwisdom includes the blocks from the previous cycle into their estimate, and they don't seem to be adjusting for the difficulty change (although I could be wrong about that). In general they are wrong most of the time until the last couple of days, but then again - all estimates are like that.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 24, 2015, 01:59:03 PM
yeah  Most estimates suck.

  I like to blend bitcoinwisdom and the googlesheet.

 more often then not they middle.



Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: edonkey on March 24, 2015, 02:31:12 PM
Maybe the recent spikes are just luck? Slush's pool just did 10 Blocks in the last 12 hours, with only 12 Ph/s.

The price is down 14% for the week. It's $248 at the time of this writing.

Downward price pressure and no new efficiency hardware should continue to apply force against the difficulty.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on March 24, 2015, 02:38:22 PM
Maybe the recent spikes are just luck? Slush's pool just did 10 Blocks in the last 12 hours, with only 12 Ph/s.

The price is down 14% for the week. It's $248 at the time of this writing.

Downward price pressure and no new efficiency hardware should continue to apply force against the difficulty.

AntPool had some massive luck today too. I wonder if the little extra BTC is also having an effect on the price. This should all sort itself out in the next week or so.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 24, 2015, 02:51:57 PM
Maybe the recent spikes are just luck? Slush's pool just did 10 Blocks in the last 12 hours, with only 12 Ph/s.

The price is down 14% for the week. It's $248 at the time of this writing.

Downward price pressure and no new efficiency hardware should continue to apply force against the difficulty.

AntPool had some massive luck today too. I wonder if the little extra BTC is also having an effect on the price. This should all sort itself out in the next week or so.

yeah if I hit a lot of blocks I sometimes cash in the coins.

have to give it a few days to sort out.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: MegaFall on March 24, 2015, 03:24:11 PM
Seems available: -0.01 to -0.25


Also, I'll put up a BTC 0.01 reward for those on either side of the final correct pick; if suchmoon doesn't object.

So, for example, if it falls in the say -0.76 to -1.00 range. I'll give 0.01 to both of those at -0.51 to -0.75 and -1.01 to -1.25.


I will be following the same rules that suchmoon has laid out.


Note: This will probably be a one time thing.


(philipma1957 if you want to hold the 0.02 as escrow so I stay true to my word, I wouldn't object to that.)


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 24, 2015, 05:06:35 PM
Ouch difficulty is not looking good.  And price drop :(.  Hopefully improves over next week.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on March 24, 2015, 05:10:39 PM
Seems available: -0.01 to -0.25


Also, I'll put up a BTC 0.01 reward for those on either side of the final correct pick; if suchmoon doesn't object.

So, for example, if it falls in the say -0.76 to -1.00 range. I'll give 0.01 to both of those at -0.51 to -0.75 and -1.01 to -1.25.


I will be following the same rules that suchmoon has laid out.


Note: This will probably be a one time thing.


(philipma1957 if you want to hold the 0.02 as escrow so I stay true to my word, I wouldn't object to that.)

I certainly don't mind, I think it's great to have a consolation prize.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 24, 2015, 05:55:57 PM
-5.01 to -5.25 Chris_Sabian

-4.01 to -4.25 Medow

 5 or six spots


-2.51 to   -2.75  tarmi--------------this was  corrected from -2.51 to -2.76
-2.26 to   -2.50  Roadstress-------- this was corrected from -2.25 to -2.49
-2.01 to   -2.25  Mikestang--------- this was corrected from -2.00 to -2.25
-1.76 to   -2.00 Quickseller
-1.51 to   -1.75 edonkey
-1.26 to   -1.50 valkir
-1.01  to  -1.25 philipma1957
-0.76  to  -1.00 notlist3d
-0.51 to   -0.75  Jamphone
-0.26 to   -0.50 coinits
-0.01 to   -0.25  MegaFall

0.00 is open

+0.01 to  +0.25 Amph
+0.26 to  +0.50 davejh
+0.51 to  +0.75 Kexkey
+0.76 to  +1.00 ezeminer
+1.01 to  +1.25 mavericklm
+1.26 to  +1.50  SimplisticStu
+1.51 to  +1.75  HerbPean
+1.76 to  +2.00 jmumich
+2.01 to  +2.25 SunnyIgor
+2.26 to  +2.50 zebedee


+2.76 to +3.00 Korbman
+3.01 to +3.25 tertius993
+3.51 to +3.75 wpt1wpt1 ------------this was corrected from +3.51 to +3.76%
+3.76 to +4.00 tlhIlwI


Amph  thanks for correction



At MegaFall I will trust you as a man of your word for the 0.02


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211


272 blocks vs 252 blocks +20 blocks = +7.79%  'real' time diff.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: alh on March 24, 2015, 07:55:42 PM
Please put me down for +2.51 to +2.75


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: buyandhold on March 24, 2015, 08:06:59 PM
+4.01 to 4.25 thx


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 24, 2015, 08:42:13 PM
-5.01 to -5.25 Chris_Sabian

-4.01 to -4.25 Medow

 5 or six spots


-2.51 to   -2.75  tarmi--------------this was  corrected from -2.51 to -2.76
-2.26 to   -2.50  Roadstress-------- this was corrected from -2.25 to -2.49
-2.01 to   -2.25  Mikestang--------- this was corrected from -2.00 to -2.25
-1.76 to   -2.00 Quickseller
-1.51 to   -1.75 edonkey
-1.26 to   -1.50 valkir
-1.01  to  -1.25 philipma1957
-0.76  to  -1.00 notlist3d
-0.51 to   -0.75  Jamphone
-0.26 to   -0.50 coinits
-0.01 to   -0.25  MegaFall

0.00 is open

+0.01 to  +0.25 Amph
+0.26 to  +0.50 davejh
+0.51 to  +0.75 Kexkey
+0.76 to  +1.00 ezeminer
+1.01 to  +1.25 mavericklm
+1.26 to  +1.50  SimplisticStu
+1.51 to  +1.75  HerbPean
+1.76 to  +2.00 jmumich
+2.01 to  +2.25 SunnyIgor
+2.26 to  +2.50 zebedee
+2.51 to  +2.75 alh
+2.76 to +3.00 Korbman
+3.01 to +3.25 tertius993
+3.51 to +3.75 wpt1wpt1 ------------this was corrected from +3.51 to +3.76%
+3.76 to +4.00 tlhIlwI
+4.01 to +4.25 buyandhold

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211


(+10.43%)

https://www.coinbase.com   price = 251 usd


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 24, 2015, 09:45:39 PM
Ouch it's not looking like a good change so far.  I hope it slows downl


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 24, 2015, 10:30:40 PM
Ouch it's not looking like a good change so far.  I hope it slows downl

well late guessing  may be smart for the prize here.

 lots of numbers in the the + 5  to +12 area  since you can guess up to march 29 th 2 am utc time there is more then 4 days time to wait.

I could see +10 based on these early numbers.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Chris_Sabian on March 24, 2015, 10:41:55 PM
I think that I may be a little off with my guess...


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 24, 2015, 11:04:54 PM
I think that I may be a little off with my guess...

Sadly alot of us were off we expected much smaller then what it's appearing to be.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Kexkey on March 24, 2015, 11:56:30 PM
Ouch it's not looking like a good change so far.  I hope it slows downl

well late guessing  may be smart for the prize here.

 lots of numbers in the the + 5  to +12 area  since you can guess up to march 29 th 2 am utc time there is more then 4 days time to wait.


Right...  Pretty sure I will change my guess for something higher in a few days.  Looks like some mining farms that turned the switch off a week ago just turned it back on.  Be ready to change the list, I probably won't be the only one!   :)



Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 25, 2015, 12:03:50 AM
Ouch it's not looking like a good change so far.  I hope it slows downl

well late guessing  may be smart for the prize here.

 lots of numbers in the the + 5  to +12 area  since you can guess up to march 29 th 2 am utc time there is more then 4 days time to wait.


Right...  Pretty sure I will change my guess for something higher in a few days.  Looks like some mining farms that turned the switch off a week ago just turned it back on.  Be ready to change the list, I probably won't be the only one!   :)



yep and after the next jump they will turn off the borderline gear and we will drop.  (I hope)


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: jmumich on March 25, 2015, 02:06:18 AM
Please move me to +3.26 - 3.5 (assuming we can switch) (read the rules, we can)


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 25, 2015, 02:38:22 AM
-5.01 to -5.25 Chris_Sabian

-4.01 to -4.25 Medow

 5 or six spots


-2.51 to   -2.75  tarmi--------------this was  corrected from -2.51 to -2.76
-2.26 to   -2.50  Roadstress-------- this was corrected from -2.25 to -2.49
-2.01 to   -2.25  Mikestang--------- this was corrected from -2.00 to -2.25
-1.76 to   -2.00 Quickseller
-1.51 to   -1.75 edonkey
-1.26 to   -1.50 valkir
-1.01  to  -1.25 philipma1957
-0.76  to  -1.00 notlist3d
-0.51 to   -0.75  Jamphone
-0.26 to   -0.50 coinits
-0.01 to   -0.25  MegaFall

0.00 is open

+0.01 to  +0.25 Amph
+0.26 to  +0.50 davejh
+0.51 to  +0.75 Kexkey
+0.76 to  +1.00 ezeminer
+1.01 to  +1.25 mavericklm
+1.26 to  +1.50  SimplisticStu
+1.51 to  +1.75  HerbPean

Open-------------------------------------------+1.76 to  +2.00 jmumich

+2.01 to  +2.25 SunnyIgor
+2.26 to  +2.50 zebedee
+2.51 to  +2.75 alh
+2.76 to +3.00 Korbman
+3.01 to +3.25 tertius993
+3.26 to +3.50 jmumich------------------  A switch from +1.76 to +2.00
+3.51 to +3.75 wpt1wpt1 ------------this was corrected from +3.51 to +3.76%
+3.76 to +4.00 tlhIlwI
+4.01 to +4.25 buyandhold





we have our first switch.
rules state a switch done before deadline is allowed. deadline is about 4.5 days from now.

I ask that everyone tries 2 or less switches. just so we don't go nuts  with changes.  Not in the rules just be nice to me as it would be very hard if everyone does 4 or 5 switches .  TIA Phil


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 25, 2015, 03:11:30 AM
I appriciate all the work you do on this.  It's become a fun game.

Maybe next week set it where a switch you only win 1/2 as much.   If switches are limited it benefits those who picked on first pick, and saves you from having to change people up to 2 additional guesses.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on March 25, 2015, 03:20:30 AM
I appriciate all the work you do on this.  It's become a fun game.

Maybe next week set it where a switch you only win 1/2 as much.   If switches are limited it benefits those who picked on first pick, and saves you from having to change people up to 2 additional guesses.

We'll see how this plays out. Until now we had very few if any switches. Don't forget that "switchers" are already penalized because the later you switch the fewer intervals are available. Let's see if this gets messy and if we need some kind of extra penalty.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: jmumich on March 25, 2015, 03:44:43 AM
Maybe the recent spikes are just luck? Slush's pool just did 10 Blocks in the last 12 hours, with only 12 Ph/s.

The price is down 14% for the week. It's $248 at the time of this writing.

Downward price pressure and no new efficiency hardware should continue to apply force against the difficulty.

AntPool had some massive luck today too. I wonder if the little extra BTC is also having an effect on the price. This should all sort itself out in the next week or so.

It'll be interesting to see if Antpool stays lucky ... I wonder how accurate their reported hashrate is. Does it include Bitmain's own miners, for example?  [EDIT: Actually it wouldn't make much sense for it to under-report its hashrate ... it would have to pay its miners more proportionally than they deserve]

Assuming pool reported hashrates are accurate, we're not at 377Ph/s (which is the estimate for this difficulty period so far). In fact, pools that report haven't shown that much of an increase. Slush's pool has solved blocks at a rate consistent with a pool running at close to 30Ph/s over the last 24 hours, but its been constantly reporting just over 12 Ph/s.

That said, even if its luck, its put us 40 blocks ahead of pace already. There's no reason to think bad luck will even it out, so even assuming luck has played a major role the past two days we're looking at a 3-5% increase this period. Possibly more depending on what Bitmain shipped. I'd be shocked if we jump over 10% though. That would mean 33 Ph/s was added to the network... seems a bit of a stretch.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: adaseb on March 25, 2015, 03:56:58 AM
Maybe the recent spikes are just luck? Slush's pool just did 10 Blocks in the last 12 hours, with only 12 Ph/s.

The price is down 14% for the week. It's $248 at the time of this writing.

Downward price pressure and no new efficiency hardware should continue to apply force against the difficulty.

AntPool had some massive luck today too. I wonder if the little extra BTC is also having an effect on the price. This should all sort itself out in the next week or so.

It'll be interesting to see if Antpool stays lucky ... I wonder how accurate their reported hashrate is. Does it include Bitmain's own miners, for example?

Assuming pool reported hashrates are accurate, we're not at 377Ph/s (which is the estimate for this difficulty period so far). In fact, pools that report haven't shown that much of an increase. Slush's pool has solved blocks at a rate consistent with a pool running at close to 30Ph/s over the last 24 hours, but its been constantly reporting just over 12 Ph/s.

That said, even if its luck, its put us 40 blocks ahead of pace already. There's no reason to think bad luck will even it out, so even assuming luck has played a major role the past two days we're looking at a 3-5% increase this period. Possibly more depending on what Bitmain shipped. I'd be shocked if we jump over 10% though. That would mean 33 Ph/s was added to the network... seems a bit of a stretch.


The day ended with 20 blocks solved too much. Looking at Antpools solved blocks they solved about 20 extra blocks today, so it could just be luck


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on March 25, 2015, 04:13:01 AM
But of course even if it's variance (i.e. the hashrate spikes and then drops) it's still going to have an effect on difficulty. See a couple of spikes from the recent past, green is the 2016-block/difficulty line. Bow to my Paint skillz.

http://i.snag.gy/vAmlQ.jpg


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: jmumich on March 25, 2015, 04:40:18 AM
But of course even if it's variance (i.e. the hashrate spikes and then drops) it's still going to have an effect on difficulty. See a couple of spikes from the recent past, green is the 2016-block/difficulty line. Bow to my Paint skillz.


That's exactly right ... even if you chalk it up to luck, there would have to be an equal amount of bad luck to cancel it out. However, I think if luck causes part of a difficulty increase, difficulty is likely to correct the next period (holding all else equal except for luck), unless there's an equal amount of luck.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: adaseb on March 25, 2015, 04:57:29 AM
But of course even if it's variance (i.e. the hashrate spikes and then drops) it's still going to have an effect on difficulty. See a couple of spikes from the recent past, green is the 2016-block/difficulty line. Bow to my Paint skillz.

http://i.snag.gy/vAmlQ.jpg

Great and I bought myself a miner this week. Grrr....



Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: RealMalatesta on March 25, 2015, 01:51:12 PM
I'm pessimistic as always :-)

+5.26 to +5.50


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 25, 2015, 02:11:12 PM

-5.01 to -5.25 Chris_Sabian

-4.01 to -4.25 Medow

 5 or six spots


-2.51 to   -2.75  tarmi--------------this was  corrected from -2.51 to -2.76
-2.26 to   -2.50  Roadstress-------- this was corrected from -2.25 to -2.49
-2.01 to   -2.25  Mikestang--------- this was corrected from -2.00 to -2.25
-1.76 to   -2.00 Quickseller
-1.51 to   -1.75 edonkey
-1.26 to   -1.50 valkir
-1.01  to  -1.25 philipma1957
-0.76  to  -1.00 notlist3d
-0.51 to   -0.75  Jamphone
-0.26 to   -0.50 coinits
-0.01 to   -0.25  MegaFall

0.00 is open

+0.01 to  +0.25 Amph
+0.26 to  +0.50 davejh
+0.51 to  +0.75 Kexkey
+0.76 to  +1.00 ezeminer
+1.01 to  +1.25 mavericklm
+1.26 to  +1.50  SimplisticStu
+1.51 to  +1.75  HerbPean

Open-------------------------------------------+1.76 to  +2.00 jmumich

+2.01 to  +2.25 SunnyIgor
+2.26 to  +2.50 zebedee
+2.51 to  +2.75 alh
+2.76 to +3.00 Korbman
+3.01 to +3.25 tertius993
+3.26 to +3.50 jmumich------------------  A switch from +1.76 to +2.00
+3.51 to +3.75 wpt1wpt1 ------------this was corrected from +3.51 to +3.76%
+3.76 to +4.00 tlhIlwI
+4.01 to +4.25 buyandhold


+5.26 to +5.50 RealMalatesta




Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Chris_Sabian on March 25, 2015, 02:11:58 PM
-5.05 to -5.30%

I've had a change of heart and change of sign with my numbers:

+5.01 to +5.25%

Same numbers but just change the sign.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: valkir on March 25, 2015, 02:31:11 PM
Wow! Its look like big + in diff!  :(

Hope it will stabilise, I was happy with the actual setup. Stable diff and stable price.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: buyandhold on March 25, 2015, 02:34:55 PM
plox to change me to +9.76 to 10.00 !


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 25, 2015, 02:43:59 PM

-5.01 to -5.25 open ----------------- Chris_Sabian

-4.01 to -4.25 Medow

 5 or six spots


-2.51 to   -2.75  tarmi--------------this was  corrected from -2.51 to -2.76
-2.26 to   -2.50  Roadstress-------- this was corrected from -2.25 to -2.49
-2.01 to   -2.25  Mikestang--------- this was corrected from -2.00 to -2.25
-1.76 to   -2.00 Quickseller
-1.51 to   -1.75 edonkey
-1.26 to   -1.50 valkir
-1.01  to  -1.25 philipma1957
-0.76  to  -1.00 notlist3d
-0.51 to   -0.75  Jamphone
-0.26 to   -0.50 coinits
-0.01 to   -0.25  MegaFall

0.00 is open

+0.01 to  +0.25 Amph
+0.26 to  +0.50 davejh
+0.51 to  +0.75 Kexkey
+0.76 to  +1.00 ezeminer
+1.01 to  +1.25 mavericklm
+1.26 to  +1.50  SimplisticStu
+1.51 to  +1.75  HerbPean

Open-------------------------------------------+1.76 to  +2.00 jmumich

+2.01 to  +2.25 SunnyIgor
+2.26 to  +2.50 zebedee
+2.51 to  +2.75 alh
+2.76 to +3.00 Korbman
+3.01 to +3.25 tertius993
+3.26 to +3.50 jmumich------------------  A switch from +1.76 to +2.00
+3.51 to +3.75 wpt1wpt1 ------------this was corrected from +3.51 to +3.76%
+3.76 to +4.00 tlhIlwI
+4.01 to +4.25 Open------------------------ buyandhold

+5.01 to +5.25 Chris_Sabian ------------A switch from -5.01 to -5.25
+5.26 to +5.50 RealMalatesta

+9.76 to +10.00 buyandhold------------A switch from +4.01 to +4.25

About 3.5 days to make a pick we have had 3 people change picks.

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty  is at (+1.39%)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

has a big move up (+11.05%) 419 blocks vs 377 blocks really big shift here

the last time we did +10 % or more was


Nov 05 2014   39,603,666,252   10.05%   283,494,086 GH/s

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: adaseb on March 25, 2015, 03:28:12 PM
And a NEW WORLD RECORD hashrate was just set. Breaking 378Ph/s.

Maybe KNCMiner and Bitfury are powering up their energy efficient miners.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: HerbPean on March 25, 2015, 03:41:38 PM
Let's wait and see, if in two days we keep the Hashrate over 375Peta, we are in trouble otherwise, it's just a peak as the usual.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: adaseb on March 25, 2015, 04:11:17 PM
Today looks like another +10% day, most likely it will be +10 to +15% at the end of the cycle.



Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: HerbPean on March 25, 2015, 04:19:50 PM
Today looks like another +10% day, most likely it will be +10 to +15% at the end of the cycle.



We are two days in the diff... things can change quickly. We have seen peak in hashrate before.

All of this happened before and will happen again ;-)


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on March 25, 2015, 04:23:59 PM
Today looks like another +10% day, most likely it will be +10 to +15% at the end of the cycle.



We are two days in the diff... things can change quickly. We have seen peak in hashrate before.

All of this happened before and will happen again ;-)

Nope, I'm pretty sure the sky is falling for real this time :)

I was looking at AntPool and they seem to be having another good day (well, good for them, not so much for other miners).


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: ezeminer on March 25, 2015, 04:24:30 PM
Today looks like another +10% day, most likely it will be +10 to +15% at the end of the cycle.



Don't say that. I love keeping a constant difficulty, because then I can actually mine something.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: jmumich on March 25, 2015, 04:26:03 PM

-5.01 to -5.25 open ----------------- Chris_Sabian

-4.01 to -4.25 Medow

 5 or six spots


-2.51 to   -2.75  tarmi--------------this was  corrected from -2.51 to -2.76
-2.26 to   -2.50  Roadstress-------- this was corrected from -2.25 to -2.49
-2.01 to   -2.25  Mikestang--------- this was corrected from -2.00 to -2.25
-1.76 to   -2.00 Quickseller
-1.51 to   -1.75 edonkey
-1.26 to   -1.50 valkir
-1.01  to  -1.25 philipma1957
-0.76  to  -1.00 notlist3d
-0.51 to   -0.75  Jamphone
-0.26 to   -0.50 coinits
-0.01 to   -0.25  MegaFall

0.00 is open

+0.01 to  +0.25 Amph
+0.26 to  +0.50 davejh
+0.51 to  +0.75 Kexkey
+0.76 to  +1.00 ezeminer
+1.01 to  +1.25 mavericklm
+1.26 to  +1.50  SimplisticStu
+1.51 to  +1.75  HerbPean

Open-------------------------------------------+1.76 to  +2.00 jmumich

+2.01 to  +2.25 SunnyIgor
+2.26 to  +2.50 zebedee
+2.51 to  +2.75 alh
+2.76 to +3.00 Korbman
+3.01 to +3.25 tertius993
+3.26 to +3.50 jmumich------------------  A switch from +1.76 to +2.00
+3.51 to +3.75 wpt1wpt1 ------------this was corrected from +3.51 to +3.76%
+3.76 to +4.00 tlhIlwI
+4.01 to +4.25 Open------------------------ buyandhold

+5.01 to +5.25 Chris_Sabian ------------A switch from -5.01 to -5.25
+5.26 to +5.50 RealMalatesta

+9.76 to +10.00 buyandhold------------A switch from +4.01 to +4.25

About 3.5 days to make a pick we have had 3 people change picks.

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty  is at (+1.39%)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

has a big move up (+11.05%) 419 blocks vs 377 blocks really big shift here

the last time we did +10 % or more was


Nov 05 2014   39,603,666,252   10.05%   283,494,086 GH/s

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty


While there was some good luck so far this period, its becoming more certain that there was also an increase in hashrate. That could be due to a combination of (1) the ddos attacks subsiding or at least being mitigated (which artificially lowered the last two adjustments), and (2) Bitmain's shipment of S5's. (They may have gotten their large 500+ orders out before the smaller orders, which are arriving now). There's also the possibility, as you've mentioned that equipment was moving as electricity rates adjust with summer coming in the Northern Hemisphere, where I'll speculate a large percentage of mining occurs. [Edit: The good news is that these are one-time factors - so if we have a large jump, there's no reason to think that we won't go back to the 2-3% average we've seen over the past several months.]  [Edit2: The price increase from the last couple weeks could also have an impact - exchange rate has an impact, but it may lag by a week or two... which would make me think there would be a drop off toward the end of this period or during the next]. 

I added an experimental difficulty projection to the sheet that factors in what has happened so far, as well as the 3, 5, and 7 day moving averages at various weights. Right now it is showing an 8.39% increase. I feel this is a little high, but we'll see.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: HerbPean on March 25, 2015, 04:37:10 PM
Today looks like another +10% day, most likely it will be +10 to +15% at the end of the cycle.



We are two days in the diff... things can change quickly. We have seen peak in hashrate before.

All of this happened before and will happen again ;-)

Nope, I'm pretty sure the sky is falling for real this time :)

I was looking at AntPool and they seem to be having another good day (well, good for them, not so much for other miners).

Keep the the law of average in mind my friend ^_^

Luck won't keep it up forever.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: armedmilitia on March 25, 2015, 05:59:18 PM
7.76-8%

I'm not feeling too good about this spike in hashrate.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: MegaFall on March 25, 2015, 06:07:12 PM
I'll switch to +1.76 to +2.00.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Mikestang on March 25, 2015, 07:35:41 PM
Today looks like another +10% day, most likely it will be +10 to +15% at the end of the cycle.



We are two days in the diff... things can change quickly. We have seen peak in hashrate before.

All of this happened before and will happen again ;-)

Nope, I'm pretty sure the sky is falling for real this time :)

I was looking at AntPool and they seem to be having another good day (well, good for them, not so much for other miners).

Keep the the law of average in mind my friend ^_^

Luck won't keep it up forever.

You don't need luck when you have a significant percentage of the total network hash power at your disposal.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: HerbPean on March 25, 2015, 08:16:21 PM
Today looks like another +10% day, most likely it will be +10 to +15% at the end of the cycle.



We are two days in the diff... things can change quickly. We have seen peak in hashrate before.

All of this happened before and will happen again ;-)

Nope, I'm pretty sure the sky is falling for real this time :)

I was looking at AntPool and they seem to be having another good day (well, good for them, not so much for other miners).

Keep the the law of average in mind my friend ^_^

Luck won't keep it up forever.

You don't need luck when you have a significant percentage of the total network hash power at your disposal.

i'm just saying that speculating on luck doesn't work on the long term.

Like if the network luck is high during the first 500 block it doesn't mean it'll be the same thing for the rest.

But yes, if someone was holding 50 Peta off for a month+, i guess so.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Last of the V8s on March 25, 2015, 09:24:30 PM
Maybe +8.76 to +9% thanks


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 26, 2015, 12:38:28 AM
Bitwisdom and spreadsheet seem to be apart pretty far.  Which one is more accurate long term like now?


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 26, 2015, 02:26:28 AM
Bitwisdom and spreadsheet seem to be apart pretty far.  Which one is more accurate long term like now?

in this case I would blend the 2 and get an average. Then lean on the high side of the average.

So

 https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty  --------------------------------------------------------------------->>>>>>>>>>>>(+2.00%)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211 -->(+10.40%)

is a 6.20% for an average.

 Lean high  6.66 to 7.77  If I was really trying to pick today. I would look in between  those numbers.

If I was really trying to win the contest instead of always picking -1.11%

 I would grab a 7.01 to 7.25  I watch a lot the next 2 days and adjust on the 28th.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 26, 2015, 02:33:59 AM
-5.01 to -5.25 open ----------------- Chris_Sabian

-4.01 to -4.25 Medow

 5 or six spots


-2.51 to   -2.75  tarmi--------------this was  corrected from -2.51 to -2.76
-2.26 to   -2.50  Roadstress-------- this was corrected from -2.25 to -2.49
-2.01 to   -2.25  Mikestang--------- this was corrected from -2.00 to -2.25
-1.76 to   -2.00 Quickseller
-1.51 to   -1.75 edonkey
-1.26 to   -1.50 valkir
-1.01  to  -1.25 philipma1957
-0.76  to  -1.00 notlist3d
-0.51 to   -0.75  Jamphone
-0.26 to   -0.50 coinits

-0.01 to   -0.25  open------------------- MegaFall

0.00 is open

+0.01 to  +0.25 Amph
+0.26 to  +0.50 davejh
+0.51 to  +0.75 Kexkey
+0.76 to  +1.00 ezeminer
+1.01 to  +1.25 mavericklm
+1.26 to  +1.50  SimplisticStu
+1.51 to  +1.75  HerbPean

+1.76 to  +2.00 MegaFall-----------------A switch from (-0.01 to -0.25)
+2.01 to  +2.25 SunnyIgor
+2.26 to  +2.50 zebedee
+2.51 to  +2.75 alh
+2.76 to +3.00 Korbman
+3.01 to +3.25 tertius993
+3.26 to +3.50 jmumich------------------  A switch from +1.76 to +2.00
+3.51 to +3.75 wpt1wpt1 ------------this was corrected from +3.51 to +3.76%
+3.76 to +4.00 tlhIlwI
+4.01 to +4.25 Open------------------------ buyandhold

+5.01 to +5.25 Chris_Sabian ------------A switch from -5.01 to -5.25
+5.26 to +5.50 RealMalatesta

+7.76 to +8.00 armedmilitia

+8.76 to +9.00 Last of the V8s

+9.76 to +10.00 buyandhold------------A switch from +4.01 to +4.25



Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 26, 2015, 03:48:24 AM
Bitwisdom and spreadsheet seem to be apart pretty far.  Which one is more accurate long term like now?

in this case I would blend the 2 and get an average. Then lean on the high side of the average.

So

 https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty  --------------------------------------------------------------------->>>>>>>>>>>>(+2.00%)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211 -->(+10.40%)

is a 6.20% for an average.

 Lean high  6.66 to 7.77  If I was really trying to pick today. I would look in between  those numbers.

If I was really trying to win the contest instead of always picking -1.11%

 I would grab a 7.01 to 7.25  I watch a lot the next 2 days and adjust on the 28th.

I like your number of 6 I hope it comes closer to it.  That with a negative last time, would not be to bad.

Now if we could only get BTC price up some.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: A4Tech on March 26, 2015, 07:27:53 AM
As usual my pickup is 0.00% lets see this time :) trying from 3 times :P :d


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: zebedee on March 26, 2015, 07:46:23 AM
Can I switch to +8.51% to +8.75% please.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: adaseb on March 26, 2015, 11:20:12 AM
I would like mine to be


+12.50%


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 26, 2015, 02:39:16 PM
-5.01 to -5.25 open ----------------- Chris_Sabian

-4.01 to -4.25 Medow

 5 or six spots


-2.51 to   -2.75  tarmi--------------this was  corrected from -2.51 to -2.76
-2.26 to   -2.50  Roadstress-------- this was corrected from -2.25 to -2.49
-2.01 to   -2.25  Mikestang--------- this was corrected from -2.00 to -2.25
-1.76 to   -2.00 Quickseller
-1.51 to   -1.75 edonkey
-1.26 to   -1.50 valkir
-1.01  to  -1.25 philipma1957
-0.76  to  -1.00 notlist3d
-0.51 to   -0.75  Jamphone
-0.26 to   -0.50 coinits

-0.01 to   -0.25  open------------------- MegaFall

0.00-------------- A4TECH
+0.01 to  +0.25 Amph
+0.26 to  +0.50 davejh
+0.51 to  +0.75 Kexkey
+0.76 to  +1.00 ezeminer
+1.01 to  +1.25 mavericklm
+1.26 to  +1.50  SimplisticStu
+1.51 to  +1.75  HerbPean

+1.76 to  +2.00 MegaFall-----------------A switch from (-0.01 to -0.25)
+2.01 to  +2.25 SunnyIgor

+2.26 to  +2.50 Open---------------- zebedee

+2.51 to  +2.75 alh
+2.76 to +3.00 Korbman
+3.01 to +3.25 tertius993
+3.26 to +3.50 jmumich------------------  A switch from +1.76 to +2.00
+3.51 to +3.75 wpt1wpt1 ------------this was corrected from +3.51 to +3.76%
+3.76 to +4.00 tlhIlwI
+4.01 to +4.25 Open------------------------ buyandhold

+5.01 to +5.25 Chris_Sabian ------------A switch from -5.01 to -5.25
+5.26 to +5.50 RealMalatesta

+7.76 to +8.00 armedmilitia
+8.51 to +8.75 zebedee--------------------A switch from +2.26 to +2.50
+8.76 to +9.00 Last of the V8s

+9.76 to +10.00 buyandhold------------A switch from +4.01 to +4.25

+12.01 to +12.50 adaseb------------corrected from 12.50


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty (+2.52%)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

(+9.09%)  more sane then yesterday.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: freedomno1 on March 26, 2015, 04:33:22 PM
I'll take a range of 6-6.25%
May get lucky ha-ha :)


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 26, 2015, 05:31:42 PM
I'll take a range of 6-6.25%
May get lucky ha-ha :)

I hope you get it.  I really don't want to see 10 percent.  Google doc still shows around 9 expected.  Slowing down a little but not as much as I wanted.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: zebedee on March 27, 2015, 04:48:37 AM
Wasn't aware, removed it myself.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 27, 2015, 04:51:40 AM
Wasn't aware, removed it myself.

Thanks! Removed my message as it had the link in it.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: adaseb on March 27, 2015, 07:27:13 AM
Looking at the spreadsheet we are currently at +65% for the day.


Not looking good.



Quote
349450 (Main Chain)   2015-03-27 05:56:14   AntPool   00000000000000000c37db6c35bc709e17911b65a2ea78a7ba2ef305a4706afa
349449 (Main Chain)   2015-03-27 05:55:11   BW.COM   0000000000000000147a01de38ddcb804387786be124f7153a40fb73d5fc0cdc
349448 (Main Chain)   2015-03-27 05:48:05   BW.COM   00000000000000000ffb73bda2d8c749263a6a8568ada783bd43a83d709b080a
349447 (Main Chain)   2015-03-27 05:47:34   AntPool   00000000000000000467ed3a1aea73fbbde4e9af2ed09e1d56a83047239e7e5e
349446 (Main Chain)   2015-03-27 05:41:57   AntPool   00000000000000000f7efa4fd6b4342ff07b0f652d262f09f62f3fb6df06dca6
349445 (Main Chain)   2015-03-27 05:36:51   BTC Guild   000000000000000008000267976e5664ace5bd8ff934149cde06d18e851c0330
349444 (Main Chain)   2015-03-27 05:34:07   F2Pool   0000000000000000139bc6ff6513b658e055eac090951378f31555a7cb72fa7a
349443 (Main Chain)   2015-03-27 05:27:29   F2Pool   000000000000000000a02fc219f20169f605c58bc55faadd5fcb5aab0094f3e9
349442 (Main Chain)   2015-03-27 05:36:53   46.254.252.25   00000000000000000e35532548e48e95a50a4ee954be57f45a9479f4e378cd77
349441 (Main Chain)   2015-03-27 05:21:14   Eligius   0000000000000000083d176dd48e0eea81eac98bb30e611c02a8098e6bc2e467
349440 (Main Chain)   2015-03-27 05:11:50   78.157.205.6   000000000000000006405db60966ade6f9877b8c4876e036390951e7ec852c37
349439 (Main Chain)   2015-03-27 05:13:51   MegaBigPower   000000000000000010c946d4b70d61073881a1527090f9caa2015ff8986ad63a
349438 (Main Chain)   2015-03-27 05:09:14   AntPool   0000000000000000101e56ad7f357f1c0abcc102926fe4bae35cef8b5d1ad918
349437 (Main Chain)   2015-03-27 05:00:51   KnCMiner   000000000000000011d96a5aca2fe4b832f6c8379e1163d127f31fb22c234416



In one hour there was 14 blocks solved instead of the usual 6.



Mining is finished....


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: RoadStress on March 27, 2015, 07:49:49 AM
It looks like I need to switch too. Sorry philipma1957 for the trouble.

From -2.26 to -2.50 to +13.01 to +13.50


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: SimplisticStu on March 27, 2015, 09:10:01 AM
Hey Philipma1957 you have given adaseb 2 slots

He currently holds +12.01 - 12.25 and also 12.26 - 12.50

+12.01 to +12.50 adaseb------------corrected from 12.50

It's only fair to the rest to point this out  :)


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: mavericklm on March 27, 2015, 10:02:04 AM
Estimated Next Difficulty:    49,579,206,785 (+6.13%)

the roof is catching some fire....


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: lovenlifelarge on March 27, 2015, 11:05:46 AM
+15% for me..

its already 6.16% & bitmain S5's are due on the 30th if they aren't being released already..


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 27, 2015, 12:13:05 PM
+15% for me..

its already 6.16% & bitmain S5's are due on the 30th if they aren't being released already..

Ouch I sure hope were not going this high.  A +15 would be a big jump.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 27, 2015, 01:32:14 PM
Hey Philipma1957 you have given adaseb 2 slots

He currently holds +12.01 - 12.25 and also 12.26 - 12.50

+12.01 to +12.50 adaseb------------corrected from 12.50

It's only fair to the rest to point this out  :)


will do some corrections the switching makes it harder


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 27, 2015, 02:46:21 PM
 I did a few corrections


-5.01 to -5.25 open ----------------- Chris_Sabian

-4.01 to -4.25 Medow

 5 or six spots


-2.51 to   -2.75  tarmi--------------this was  corrected from -2.51 to -2.76
-2.26 to   -2.50   open ---Roadstress-------- this was corrected from -2.25 to -2.49
-2.01 to   -2.25  Mikestang--------- this was corrected from -2.00 to -2.25
-1.76 to   -2.00 Quickseller
-1.51 to   -1.75 edonkey
-1.26 to   -1.50 valkir
-1.01  to  -1.25 philipma1957
-0.76  to  -1.00 notlist3d
-0.51 to   -0.75  Jamphone
-0.26 to   -0.50 coinits

-0.01 to   -0.25  open------------------- MegaFall

0.00-------------- A4TECH
+0.01 to  +0.25 Amph
+0.26 to  +0.50 davejh
+0.51 to  +0.75 Kexkey
+0.76 to  +1.00 ezeminer
+1.01 to  +1.25 mavericklm
+1.26 to  +1.50  SimplisticStu
+1.51 to  +1.75  HerbPean

+1.76 to  +2.00 MegaFall-----------------A switch from (-0.01 to -0.25)
+2.01 to  +2.25 SunnyIgor

+2.26 to  +2.50 Open---------------- zebedee

+2.51 to  +2.75 alh
+2.76 to +3.00 Korbman
+3.01 to +3.25 tertius993
+3.26 to +3.50 jmumich------------------  A switch from +1.76 to +2.00
+3.51 to +3.75 wpt1wpt1 ------------this was corrected from +3.51 to +3.76%
+3.76 to +4.00 tlhIlwI
+4.01 to +4.25 Open------------------------ buyandhold

+5.01 to +5.25 Chris_Sabian ------------A switch from -5.01 to -5.25
+5.26 to +5.50 RealMalatesta

+6.01 to +6.25 freedomno1


+7.76 to +8.00 armedmilitia
+8.51 to +8.75 zebedee--------------------A switch from +2.26 to +2.50
+8.76 to +9.00 Last of the V8s

+9.76 to +10.00 buyandhold------------A switch from +4.01 to +4.25

+12.26 to +12.50 adaseb------------corrected from 12.50  ----

+13.01 to +13.50 RoadStress---------Switched from -2.26 to -2.50

+14.76 to +15.00 lovenlifelarge ---corrected from +15.00



https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty (+6.11%)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

(+11.81%)  nasty number



Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Quickseller on March 27, 2015, 02:49:26 PM
I'd like to switch my guess to + 15.01 to 15.25

Also why does roadstress get a .5% range?


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: EMIF on March 27, 2015, 02:58:31 PM
My difficulty estimation is between:

+11.01-11.25


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: shapeshift on March 27, 2015, 03:10:40 PM
I want to make highest estimation from +18.51 to +18.75 % for the current round.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: RealMalatesta on March 27, 2015, 03:23:30 PM
Shouldn't we make a Bingo out of it? Every bidder pays 0.01 BTC to an address, the winner takes it all?


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: EMIF on March 27, 2015, 03:33:51 PM
Shouldn't we make a Bingo out of it? Every bidder pays 0.01 BTC to an address, the winner takes it all?

Then , it will be basicly a gambling which some people cannot attend due to religional causes -including me-.
I really appreciate OP's effort to make such a thread and I just dont want him to change from original status to a pot like system.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 27, 2015, 03:37:11 PM
I'd like to switch my guess to + 15.01 to 15.25

Also why does roadstress get a .5% range?
my bad will fix it.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 27, 2015, 03:38:23 PM
I did a few corrections


-5.01 to -5.25 open ----------------- Chris_Sabian

-4.01 to -4.25 Medow

 5 or six spots


-2.51 to   -2.75  tarmi--------------this was  corrected from -2.51 to -2.76
-2.26 to   -2.50   open ---Roadstress-------- this was corrected from -2.25 to -2.49
-2.01 to   -2.25  Mikestang--------- this was corrected from -2.00 to -2.25
-1.76 to   -2.00-----open-------------- Quickseller
-1.51 to   -1.75 edonkey
-1.26 to   -1.50 valkir
-1.01  to  -1.25 philipma1957
-0.76  to  -1.00 notlist3d
-0.51 to   -0.75  Jamphone
-0.26 to   -0.50 coinits

-0.01 to   -0.25  open------------------- MegaFall

0.00-------------- A4TECH
+0.01 to  +0.25 Amph
+0.26 to  +0.50 davejh
+0.51 to  +0.75 Kexkey
+0.76 to  +1.00 ezeminer
+1.01 to  +1.25 mavericklm
+1.26 to  +1.50  SimplisticStu
+1.51 to  +1.75  HerbPean

+1.76 to  +2.00 MegaFall-----------------A switch from (-0.01 to -0.25)
+2.01 to  +2.25 SunnyIgor

+2.26 to  +2.50 Open---------------- zebedee

+2.51 to  +2.75 alh
+2.76 to +3.00 Korbman
+3.01 to +3.25 tertius993
+3.26 to +3.50 jmumich------------------  A switch from +1.76 to +2.00
+3.51 to +3.75 wpt1wpt1 ------------this was corrected from +3.51 to +3.76%
+3.76 to +4.00 tlhIlwI
+4.01 to +4.25 Open------------------------ buyandhold

+5.01 to +5.25 Chris_Sabian ------------A switch from -5.01 to -5.25
+5.26 to +5.50 RealMalatesta

+6.01 to +6.25 freedomno1


+7.76 to +8.00 armedmilitia
+8.51 to +8.75 zebedee--------------------A switch from +2.26 to +2.50
+8.76 to +9.00 Last of the V8s

+9.76 to +10.00 buyandhold------------A switch from +4.01 to +4.25

+12.26 to +12.50 adaseb------------corrected from 12.50  ----

+13.01 to +13.25 RoadStress---------Switched from -2.26 to -2.50---- and corrected to a .25 range

+14.76 to +15.00 lovenlifelarge ---corrected from +15.00

+ 15.01 to 15.25  Quickerseller----- Switched from -1.76 to -2.00

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty (+6.11%)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

(+11.81%)  nasty number




Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: koenmtb1 on March 27, 2015, 03:40:32 PM
So does anyone know why the network hashrate has jumped in the last few days?   :-\


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 27, 2015, 03:47:43 PM
I think the list is up to date


-5.01 to -5.25 open ----------------- Chris_Sabian

-4.01 to -4.25 Medow

 5 or six spots


-2.51 to   -2.75  tarmi--------------this was  corrected from -2.51 to -2.76
-2.26 to   -2.50   open ---Roadstress-------- this was corrected from -2.25 to -2.49
-2.01 to   -2.25  Mikestang--------- this was corrected from -2.00 to -2.25
-1.76 to   -2.00-----open-------------- Quickseller
-1.51 to   -1.75 edonkey
-1.26 to   -1.50 valkir
-1.01  to  -1.25 philipma1957
-0.76  to  -1.00 notlist3d
-0.51 to   -0.75  Jamphone
-0.26 to   -0.50 coinits

-0.01 to   -0.25  open------------------- MegaFall

0.00-------------- A4TECH
+0.01 to  +0.25 Amph
+0.26 to  +0.50 davejh
+0.51 to  +0.75 Kexkey
+0.76 to  +1.00 ezeminer
+1.01 to  +1.25 mavericklm
+1.26 to  +1.50  SimplisticStu
+1.51 to  +1.75  HerbPean

+1.76 to  +2.00 MegaFall-----------------A switch from (-0.01 to -0.25)
+2.01 to  +2.25 SunnyIgor

+2.26 to  +2.50 Open---------------- zebedee

+2.51 to  +2.75 alh
+2.76 to +3.00 Korbman
+3.01 to +3.25 tertius993
+3.26 to +3.50 jmumich------------------  A switch from +1.76 to +2.00
+3.51 to +3.75 wpt1wpt1 ------------this was corrected from +3.51 to +3.76%
+3.76 to +4.00 tlhIlwI
+4.01 to +4.25 Open------------------------ buyandhold

+5.01 to +5.25 Chris_Sabian ------------A switch from -5.01 to -5.25
+5.26 to +5.50 RealMalatesta

+6.01 to +6.25 freedomno1


+7.76 to +8.00 armedmilitia
+8.51 to +8.75 zebedee--------------------A switch from +2.26 to +2.50
+8.76 to +9.00 Last of the V8s

+9.76 to +10.00 buyandhold------------A switch from +4.01 to +4.25

+11.01 to +11.25 EMIF

+12.26 to +12.50 adaseb------------corrected from 12.50  ----

+13.01 to +13.25 RoadStress---------Switched from -2.26 to -2.50---- and corrected to a .25 range

+14.76 to +15.00 lovenlifelarge ---corrected from +15.00

+ 15.01 to 15.25  Quickerseller----- Switched from -1.76 to -2.00
+18.51  to 18.75   shapeshift
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty (+6.05%)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

(+11.39%)  nasty number



Shouldn't we make a Bingo out of it? Every bidder pays 0.01 BTC to an address, the winner takes it all?

Then , it will be basicly a gambling which some people cannot attend due to religional causes -including me-.
I really appreciate OP's effort to make such a thread and I just dont want him to change from original status to a pot like system.


This is setup as a possible free gift  with nothing to lose  so it is not gambling

  which is how I want it to stay.  Basically many people do not want to gamble for many reasons.

 This is one of the few spots on the site designed for fun.  Free spec on the diff the price and a free guess for .1btc.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Quickseller on March 27, 2015, 03:49:08 PM
So does anyone know why the network hashrate has jumped in the last few days?   :-\
There is speculation that antpool had significantly above expected luck to account for part of the jump.

Obviously some of the jump is from new (likely more efficient) hardware being brought online. Part of it could probably be explained by batch 5 (?) of S5's being brought online. Bitmantech had an unusually long production run for this batch of S5s so it is possible they were using some of their production capacity to build their next generation of more efficient miners and brought them online for testing/were mining for themselves. Another possibility is that a private farm built a lot of privately built miners with their own chips. I haven't been following the hashrate distribution closely but it looks like the "unknown" share of found blocks is very high right now and I would think a lot of the unknown found blocks are from corporate miners not mining on pools.  


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 27, 2015, 03:55:36 PM
So does anyone know why the network hashrate has jumped in the last few days?   :-\
There is speculation that antpool had significantly above expected luck to account for part of the jump.

Obviously some of the jump is from new (likely more efficient) hardware being brought online. Part of it could probably be explained by batch 5 (?) of S5's being brought online. Bitmantech had an unusually long production run for this batch of S5s so it is possible they were using some of their production capacity to build their next generation of more efficient miners and brought them online for testing/were mining for themselves. Another possibility is that a private farm built a lot of privately built miners with their own chips. I haven't been following the hashrate distribution closely but it looks like the "unknown" share of found blocks is very high right now and I would think a lot of the unknown found blocks are from corporate miners not mining on pools.  

My guess is someone deployed a secret farm so to speak. If so I am hoping bitfury simply killed off old gear and replaced with new gear.  say they dropped 20ph and added 40ph.

and after this 8 to 12 % jump we stay flat.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: koenmtb1 on March 27, 2015, 03:59:03 PM
So does anyone know why the network hashrate has jumped in the last few days?   :-\
There is speculation that antpool had significantly above expected luck to account for part of the jump.

Obviously some of the jump is from new (likely more efficient) hardware being brought online. Part of it could probably be explained by batch 5 (?) of S5's being brought online. Bitmantech had an unusually long production run for this batch of S5s so it is possible they were using some of their production capacity to build their next generation of more efficient miners and brought them online for testing/were mining for themselves. Another possibility is that a private farm built a lot of privately built miners with their own chips. I haven't been following the hashrate distribution closely but it looks like the "unknown" share of found blocks is very high right now and I would think a lot of the unknown found blocks are from corporate miners not mining on pools.  

My guess is someone deployed a secret farm so to speak. If so I am hoping bitfury simply killed off old gear and replaced with new gear.  say they dropped 20ph and added 40ph.

and after this 8 to 12 % jump we stay flat.

So we're probably hitting the top at 12%? That is 52323655601....
Let's hope it might be a bit lower... I think that the S6 and the new SP's will make a lot of difference and that home mining won't be a thing anymore after that...


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 27, 2015, 04:32:38 PM
So does anyone know why the network hashrate has jumped in the last few days?   :-\
There is speculation that antpool had significantly above expected luck to account for part of the jump.

Obviously some of the jump is from new (likely more efficient) hardware being brought online. Part of it could probably be explained by batch 5 (?) of S5's being brought online. Bitmantech had an unusually long production run for this batch of S5s so it is possible they were using some of their production capacity to build their next generation of more efficient miners and brought them online for testing/were mining for themselves. Another possibility is that a private farm built a lot of privately built miners with their own chips. I haven't been following the hashrate distribution closely but it looks like the "unknown" share of found blocks is very high right now and I would think a lot of the unknown found blocks are from corporate miners not mining on pools.  

My guess is someone deployed a secret farm so to speak. If so I am hoping bitfury simply killed off old gear and replaced with new gear.  say they dropped 20ph and added 40ph.

and after this 8 to 12 % jump we stay flat.

So we're probably hitting the top at 12%? That is 52323655601....
Let's hope it might be a bit lower... I think that the S6 and the new SP's will make a lot of difference and that home mining won't be a thing anymore after that...
Home mining will be for low power homes. under 10 cents a kwatt.

or someone that uses spot electric space heaters 6 or 7 months a year.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 27, 2015, 04:51:21 PM
So does anyone know why the network hashrate has jumped in the last few days?   :-\
There is speculation that antpool had significantly above expected luck to account for part of the jump.

Obviously some of the jump is from new (likely more efficient) hardware being brought online. Part of it could probably be explained by batch 5 (?) of S5's being brought online. Bitmantech had an unusually long production run for this batch of S5s so it is possible they were using some of their production capacity to build their next generation of more efficient miners and brought them online for testing/were mining for themselves. Another possibility is that a private farm built a lot of privately built miners with their own chips. I haven't been following the hashrate distribution closely but it looks like the "unknown" share of found blocks is very high right now and I would think a lot of the unknown found blocks are from corporate miners not mining on pools.  

My guess is someone deployed a secret farm so to speak. If so I am hoping bitfury simply killed off old gear and replaced with new gear.  say they dropped 20ph and added 40ph.

and after this 8 to 12 % jump we stay flat.

I hope it goes back to flatter.  My biggest fear is someone has next gen chips and pumping them out.  I am hoping those chips take a few months for everyone to get though.  If a company does have next gen chips I could see them keep putting out quite a bit each week.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: GenTarkin on March 27, 2015, 05:11:49 PM
What I hope happens at some point btc price plummets sub 100, many miners including farms cant afford to mine, asic demand is significantly lowered, asic companies go bankrupt and diff would start to go down significantly.
This would be nice.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: alh on March 27, 2015, 05:12:36 PM
Well I think for this next change we can dispense with "It's just variance". The last few could clearly fit there, but the upcoming change is due to an actual increase it total hashrate. We may well look back at the first Quarter of 2015 as "The good times" for the year (I hope not).

If part of this is a turnover of Bitfury gear, what happens to the displaced gear?  


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: GenTarkin on March 27, 2015, 05:33:38 PM
Well I think for this next change we can dispense with "It's just variance". The last few could clearly fit there, but the upcoming change is due to an actual increase it total hashrate. We may well look back at the first Quarter of 2015 as "The good times" for the year (I hope not).

If part of this is a turnover of Bitfury gear, what happens to the displaced gear?  

Yeah, at this point its not just variance, its been a solid past week or so of this insane hashrate increase.

I bet it hits somewhere near 25% =P


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 27, 2015, 07:05:13 PM
So does anyone know why the network hashrate has jumped in the last few days?   :-\
There is speculation that antpool had significantly above expected luck to account for part of the jump.

Obviously some of the jump is from new (likely more efficient) hardware being brought online. Part of it could probably be explained by batch 5 (?) of S5's being brought online. Bitmantech had an unusually long production run for this batch of S5s so it is possible they were using some of their production capacity to build their next generation of more efficient miners and brought them online for testing/were mining for themselves. Another possibility is that a private farm built a lot of privately built miners with their own chips. I haven't been following the hashrate distribution closely but it looks like the "unknown" share of found blocks is very high right now and I would think a lot of the unknown found blocks are from corporate miners not mining on pools.  

My guess is someone deployed a secret farm so to speak. If so I am hoping bitfury simply killed off old gear and replaced with new gear.  say they dropped 20ph and added 40ph.

and after this 8 to 12 % jump we stay flat.

I hope it goes back to flatter.  My biggest fear is someone has next gen chips and pumping them out.  I am hoping those chips take a few months for everyone to get though.  If a company does have next gen chips I could see them keep putting out quite a bit each week.

Yeah but it is moron to exceed by a lot. By that I mean a one time jump like I describe below for bitfury would be smart for them to do.

The math shows time and time again.  replace your shit gear with better gear and grow somewhat.

So the big bitfury gear was about 6th at 4000 watts.

If they drop in a  10th at 3000 watts.

   on 1 to 1 basis  their 20 MW farm was doing 30ph

so it now does  65ph

they may have powered off a lot   last jump and powered on 50ph. this jump.

look at bottom line  they were spending .67 watts a gh  now they spend .3 watts a gh  the market takes a big 10-15% hit lik it did last fall and it then goes flat for 5 months or so.


At 30ph using 20 MW with 6 cent power a farm makes 50800 a day.

at 65ph using 20 MW with 6 cent power a farm makes 143,688 a day.

So the economic sense of bitfury shutting off the remaining shit they were mining getting that nice little  1.50% drop last time.  

Then being perfectly setup to turn on a ton of gear for an entire 13 days making 90k a day in extra money for 13 days = 1 million plus in 2 weeks  not forgetting the other 50 k so 1.7 million in 12-14 days.

If all of the above is true. diff will go flat.  and bitfury will sell a lot of coins fast.. I am holding money to buy when we drop under 200 a coin.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 27, 2015, 07:53:46 PM
The reason I could see a company putting in more then normal is being first to next gen.  If company is a month or even two ahead of others it would go a long ways on their ROI.

Currently we don't know how far along companies are on next gen so it's hard to tell a lot.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: GenTarkin on March 27, 2015, 09:35:35 PM
The way things are going, if they keep going, soon we will only have the ASIC manufacturers mining ... noone else.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 27, 2015, 10:20:19 PM
The reason I could see a company putting in more then normal is being first to next gen.  If company is a month or even two ahead of others it would go a long ways on their ROI.

Currently we don't know how far along companies are on next gen so it's hard to tell a lot.

or the rush to put in a super farm  filled with 10th 3000 watt gear as fast as possible crashes prices down to 150 or less.

I can see some like bitfury swapping out the old gear and not increasing power use.  But  their hash rate doubles since their new gear uses half the power.

This means only building miners no farm build or psus are needed since they have it with the old gear.

Cuts the build cost a lot.  and in my example above a 50k a day profit would be 145k a day for at least 1 diff jump.

the old gear they had was 6th maybe 3000 of them  so now  3000 new pieces.  just slide the old pcb boards out and slide the new ones in. reuse the heatsink the farm the cooling the psu.  only thing to waste is the old pcb boards.

and maybe they can just solder the new chip in place of the old.

pretty cheap upgrade from 20ph to  30ph.  the second part of the upgrade costs a bit more since they only had 3000 old machine to convert the rest would need all the parts.

  I am actually hoping this is what happened to make the  increase


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 27, 2015, 10:24:51 PM
Thank you Phil for doing so much about difficulty game.

If you would change my guess to +11.51 to +11.75

Sadly my first day guess of negative was off.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 28, 2015, 12:37:13 AM
Thank you Phil for doing so much about difficulty game.

If you would change my guess to +11.51 to +11.75

Sadly my first day guess of negative was off.
no worries


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 28, 2015, 12:40:12 AM
I think the list is up to date


-5.01 to -5.25 open ----------------- Chris_Sabian

-4.01 to -4.25 Medow

 5 or six spots


-2.51 to   -2.75  tarmi--------------this was  corrected from -2.51 to -2.76
-2.26 to   -2.50   open ---Roadstress-------- this was corrected from -2.25 to -2.49
-2.01 to   -2.25  Mikestang--------- this was corrected from -2.00 to -2.25
-1.76 to   -2.00-----open-------------- Quickseller
-1.51 to   -1.75 edonkey
-1.26 to   -1.50 valkir
-1.01  to  -1.25 philipma1957
-0.76  to  -1.00------open------------------- notlist3d
-0.51 to   -0.75  Jamphone
-0.26 to   -0.50 coinits

-0.01 to   -0.25  open------------------- MegaFall

0.00-------------- A4TECH
+0.01 to  +0.25 Amph
+0.26 to  +0.50 davejh
+0.51 to  +0.75 Kexkey
+0.76 to  +1.00 ezeminer
+1.01 to  +1.25 mavericklm
+1.26 to  +1.50  SimplisticStu
+1.51 to  +1.75  HerbPean

+1.76 to  +2.00 MegaFall-----------------A switch from (-0.01 to -0.25)
+2.01 to  +2.25 SunnyIgor

+2.26 to  +2.50 Open---------------- zebedee

+2.51 to  +2.75 alh
+2.76 to +3.00 Korbman
+3.01 to +3.25 tertius993
+3.26 to +3.50 jmumich------------------  A switch from +1.76 to +2.00
+3.51 to +3.75 wpt1wpt1 ------------this was corrected from +3.51 to +3.76%
+3.76 to +4.00 tlhIlwI
+4.01 to +4.25 Open------------------------ buyandhold

+5.01 to +5.25 Chris_Sabian ------------A switch from -5.01 to -5.25
+5.26 to +5.50 RealMalatesta

+6.01 to +6.25 freedomno1


+7.76 to +8.00 armedmilitia
+8.51 to +8.75 zebedee--------------------A switch from +2.26 to +2.50
+8.76 to +9.00 Last of the V8s

+9.76 to +10.00 buyandhold------------A switch from +4.01 to +4.25

+11.01 to +11.25 EMIF
+11.51 to +11.75 notlist3d--------- switched from - 0.76 to - 1.00
+12.26 to +12.50 adaseb------------corrected from 12.50  ----

+13.01 to +13.25 RoadStress---------Switched from -2.26 to -2.50---- and corrected to a .25 range

+14.76 to +15.00 lovenlifelarge ---corrected from +15.00

+ 15.01 to 15.25  Quickerseller----- Switched from -1.76 to -2.00
+18.51  to 18.75   shapeshift
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty (+5.93%)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

(+11.07%)   still a nasty number








Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 28, 2015, 02:35:24 AM
Nasty is definitely a good word for it.  Even with negative the difficulty before this one will hurt.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on March 28, 2015, 03:37:07 AM
Nasty is definitely a good word for it.  Even with negative the difficulty before this one will hurt.

We're all horribly spoiled  ;D

Double-digit increases were the norm not too long ago. Although BTC at $600+ helped of course.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 28, 2015, 03:39:08 AM
Nasty is definitely a good word for it.  Even with negative the difficulty before this one will hurt.

We're all horribly spoiled  ;D

Double-digit increases were the norm not too long ago. Although BTC at $600+ helped of course.


The time when there was a blinky like heaven from all the usb sticks.... and smell of 1000 dollar bitcoin.   Ahhh the good old times :).

I would agree we have been a little spoiled on difficulty, but price sure has not helped jumps.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: judypug1956 on March 28, 2015, 03:59:15 AM
Nasty is definitely a good word for it.  Even with negative the difficulty before this one will hurt.

We're all horribly spoiled  ;D

Double-digit increases were the norm not too long ago. Although BTC at $600+ helped of course.



also new gear with big power drops.

300 watt gpu's gave .6 gh
10   watt asics  gave 1 gh     a 50 to 1 improvement
2     watt  asics  gave 1 gh    a 5 to 1 improvement
1      watt asics gave  1 gh    a 2 to  1 improvement
.8     watt  asics gave  1gh     a 1,25 to 1 ratio--------------- btc price drop
.5     watt  asics  gave 1gh     a  1.6 to 1 improvement -----  btc price drop

Next  ???


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 28, 2015, 04:04:11 AM
better gear at cheaper prices served to lower btc price a lot.   I think  ??? 


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 28, 2015, 04:05:00 AM
Nasty is definitely a good word for it.  Even with negative the difficulty before this one will hurt.

yeah 10% jumps with coins at this price ugh.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: alh on March 28, 2015, 09:37:53 AM
I would like to drop my +2.51% slot and take the +5.76% slot instead. This going to be way worse than I thought. Not just "variance" this time....  >:(


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: eretron on March 28, 2015, 01:49:49 PM
Hello,

may I enter the game :)

My guess:

+ 9.51%

Thanks


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 28, 2015, 01:53:32 PM
I think the list is up to date


-5.01 to -5.25 open ----------------- Chris_Sabian

-4.01 to -4.25 Medow

 5 or six spots


-2.51 to   -2.75  tarmi--------------this was  corrected from -2.51 to -2.76
-2.26 to   -2.50   open ---Roadstress-------- this was corrected from -2.25 to -2.49
-2.01 to   -2.25  Mikestang--------- this was corrected from -2.00 to -2.25
-1.76 to   -2.00-----open-------------- Quickseller
-1.51 to   -1.75 edonkey
-1.26 to   -1.50 valkir
-1.01  to  -1.25 philipma1957
-0.76  to  -1.00------open------------------- notlist3d
-0.51 to   -0.75  Jamphone
-0.26 to   -0.50 coinits

-0.01 to   -0.25  open------------------- MegaFall

0.00-------------- A4TECH
+0.01 to  +0.25 Amph
+0.26 to  +0.50 davejh
+0.51 to  +0.75 Kexkey
+0.76 to  +1.00 ezeminer
+1.01 to  +1.25 mavericklm
+1.26 to  +1.50  SimplisticStu
+1.51 to  +1.75  HerbPean

+1.76 to  +2.00 MegaFall-----------------A switch from (-0.01 to -0.25)
+2.01 to  +2.25 SunnyIgor

+2.26 to  +2.50 Open---------------- zebedee

+2.51 to  +2.75 Open---------------- alh
+2.76 to +3.00 Korbman
+3.01 to +3.25 tertius993
+3.26 to +3.50 jmumich------------------  A switch from +1.76 to +2.00
+3.51 to +3.75 wpt1wpt1 ------------this was corrected from +3.51 to +3.76%
+3.76 to +4.00 tlhIlwI
+4.01 to +4.25 Open------------------------ buyandhold

+5.01 to +5.25 Chris_Sabian ------------A switch from -5.01 to -5.25
+5.26 to +5.50 RealMalatesta
+5.76 to +6.00 alh  ----------------------A switch from +2.51 to +2.75
+6.01 to +6.25 freedomno1


+7.76 to +8.00 armedmilitia
+8.51 to +8.75 zebedee--------------------A switch from +2.26 to +2.50
+8.76 to +9.00 Last of the V8s
+9.51 to + 9.76 eretron
+9.76 to +10.00 buyandhold------------A switch from +4.01 to +4.25

+11.01 to +11.25 EMIF
+11.51 to +11.75 notlist3d--------- switched from - 0.76 to - 1.00
+12.26 to +12.50 adaseb------------corrected from 12.50  ----

+13.01 to +13.25 RoadStress---------Switched from -2.26 to -2.50---- and corrected to a .25 range

+14.76 to +15.00 lovenlifelarge ---corrected from +15.00

+ 15.01 to 15.25  Quickerseller----- Switched from -1.76 to -2.00
+18.51  to 18.75   shapeshift




https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty (+7.65%)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

(+10.56%)   still a nasty number


we have less then 1 day for the picks.
We all the changes I may have fucked up one or two of these.  Please check them today.  Good luck to us all with this jump we are going to need it.

coin price is 253 at coinbase.


https://www.coinbase.com/buys


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 28, 2015, 02:06:25 PM
I keep hoping the spreadsheet get' closer to bitwisdom's guess.  But it's looking like a 10 or higher most of this week.

Being over 250 is nice, if it could go up a little higher I would be more happy.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: valkir on March 28, 2015, 02:57:51 PM
Switch me to +10.01 - 10.25

Thanks you!

I hate this big jump  :-\


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 28, 2015, 04:03:33 PM

I think the list is up to date


-5.01 to -5.25 open ----------------- Chris_Sabian

-4.01 to -4.25 Medow

 5 or six spots


-2.51 to   -2.75  tarmi--------------this was  corrected from -2.51 to -2.76
-2.26 to   -2.50   open ---Roadstress-------- this was corrected from -2.25 to -2.49
-2.01 to   -2.25  Mikestang--------- this was corrected from -2.00 to -2.25
-1.76 to   -2.00-----open-------------- Quickseller
-1.51 to   -1.75 edonkey
-1.26 to   -1.50--------open------------ valkir
-1.01  to  -1.25 philipma1957
-0.76  to  -1.00------open------------------- notlist3d
-0.51 to   -0.75  Jamphone
-0.26 to   -0.50 coinits

-0.01 to   -0.25  open------------------- MegaFall

0.00-------------- A4TECH
+0.01 to  +0.25 Amph
+0.26 to  +0.50 davejh
+0.51 to  +0.75 Kexkey
+0.76 to  +1.00 ezeminer
+1.01 to  +1.25 mavericklm
+1.26 to  +1.50  SimplisticStu
+1.51 to  +1.75  HerbPean

+1.76 to  +2.00 MegaFall-----------------A switch from (-0.01 to -0.25)
+2.01 to  +2.25 SunnyIgor

+2.26 to  +2.50 Open---------------- zebedee

+2.51 to  +2.75 Open---------------- alh
+2.76 to +3.00 Korbman
+3.01 to +3.25 tertius993
+3.26 to +3.50 jmumich------------------  A switch from (+1.76 to +2.00)
+3.51 to +3.75 wpt1wpt1 ------------this was corrected from +3.51 to +3.76%
+3.76 to +4.00 tlhIlwI
+4.01 to +4.25 Open------------------------ buyandhold

+5.01 to +5.25 Chris_Sabian --------------A switch from (-5.01 to -5.25)
+5.26 to +5.50 RealMalatesta
+5.76 to +6.00 alh  ------------------------A switch from (+2.51 to +2.75)
+6.01 to +6.25 freedomno1


+7.76 to +8.00 armedmilitia
+8.51 to +8.75 zebedee--------------------A switch from (+2.26 to +2.50)
+8.76 to +9.00 Last of the V8s
+9.51 to + 9.76 eretron
+9.76 to +10.00 buyandhold---------------A switch from (+4.01 to +4.25)
+10.01 to +10.25 valkir--------------------A switch from (-1.26 to -1.50)
+11.01 to +11.25 EMIF
+11.51 to +11.75 notlist3d-----------------A switch from (- 0.76 to - 1.00)
+12.26 to +12.50 adaseb------------corrected from 12.50  ----

+13.01 to +13.25 RoadStress--------------A Switch from (-2.26 to -2.50)---- and corrected to a .25 range

+14.76 to +15.00 lovenlifelarge ---corrected from +15.00

+ 15.01 to 15.25  Quickerseller-------------A Switch from (-1.76 to -2.00)
+18.51  to 18.75   shapeshift




https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty (+7.74%)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

(+10.60%)   still a nasty number


we have less then 1 day for the picks.
We all the changes I may have fucked up one or two of these.  Please check them today.  Good luck to us all with this jump we are going to need it.

coin price is 253 at coinbase.


https://www.coinbase.com/buys



Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: RealMalatesta on March 28, 2015, 07:38:43 PM
What I really hate about this jump is that there is almost no gear available for private miners to get some more hash rate and even out the jump.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 28, 2015, 07:41:10 PM
What I really hate about this jump is that there is almost no gear available for private miners to get some more hash rate and even out the jump.

Who ever it is is definitely keeping quiet.  I keep hoping someone will make a announcement so we know who it is, but we have not been that lucky.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: zekarsalih on March 28, 2015, 10:08:27 PM
I am guessing +14%,  my opperation remains proffitable even with a 100% total increase in 4 months, so if it is anything less than that, I am still happy because of ROI. On the other hand, this sucks because we want bitcoin to grow. We are really losing momentum, and early adopters are even losing faith  but I am still sure Bitcoin is the next thing


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 28, 2015, 11:50:34 PM
I think the list is up to date


-5.01 to -5.25 open ----------------- Chris_Sabian

-4.01 to -4.25 Medow

 5 or six spots


-2.51 to   -2.75  tarmi--------------this was  corrected from -2.51 to -2.76
-2.26 to   -2.50   open ---Roadstress-------- this was corrected from -2.25 to -2.49
-2.01 to   -2.25  Mikestang--------- this was corrected from -2.00 to -2.25
-1.76 to   -2.00-----open-------------- Quickseller
-1.51 to   -1.75 edonkey
-1.26 to   -1.50--------open------------ valkir
-1.01  to  -1.25 philipma1957
-0.76  to  -1.00------open------------------- notlist3d
-0.51 to   -0.75  Jamphone
-0.26 to   -0.50 coinits

-0.01 to   -0.25  open------------------- MegaFall

0.00-------------- A4TECH
+0.01 to  +0.25 Amph
+0.26 to  +0.50 davejh
+0.51 to  +0.75 Kexkey
+0.76 to  +1.00 ezeminer
+1.01 to  +1.25 mavericklm
+1.26 to  +1.50  SimplisticStu
+1.51 to  +1.75  HerbPean

+1.76 to  +2.00 MegaFall-----------------A switch from (-0.01 to -0.25)
+2.01 to  +2.25 SunnyIgor

+2.26 to  +2.50 Open---------------- zebedee

+2.51 to  +2.75 Open---------------- alh
+2.76 to +3.00 Korbman
+3.01 to +3.25 tertius993
+3.26 to +3.50 jmumich------------------  A switch from (+1.76 to +2.00)
+3.51 to +3.75 wpt1wpt1 ------------this was corrected from +3.51 to +3.76%
+3.76 to +4.00 tlhIlwI
+4.01 to +4.25 Open------------------------ buyandhold

+5.01 to +5.25 Chris_Sabian --------------A switch from (-5.01 to -5.25)
+5.26 to +5.50 RealMalatesta
+5.76 to +6.00 alh  ------------------------A switch from (+2.51 to +2.75)
+6.01 to +6.25 freedomno1


+7.76 to +8.00 armedmilitia
+8.51 to +8.75 zebedee--------------------A switch from (+2.26 to +2.50)
+8.76 to +9.00 Last of the V8s
+9.51 to + 9.76 eretron
+9.76 to +10.00 buyandhold---------------A switch from (+4.01 to +4.25)
+10.01 to +10.25 valkir--------------------A switch from (-1.26 to -1.50)
+11.01 to +11.25 EMIF
+11.51 to +11.75 notlist3d-----------------A switch from (- 0.76 to - 1.00)
+12.26 to +12.50 adaseb------------corrected from 12.50  ----

+13.01 to +13.25 RoadStress--------------A Switch from (-2.26 to -2.50)---- and corrected to a .25 range

+13.76 to +14.00  zekarsalih
+14.76 to +15.00 lovenlifelarge ---corrected from +15.00

+ 15.01 to 15.25  Quickerseller-------------A Switch from (-1.76 to -2.00)
+18.51  to 18.75   shapeshift




https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty (+7.76%)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

(+9.74%)   Under 10% !!


we have less then 1 day for the picks.
We all the changes I may have fucked up one or two of these.  Please check them today.  Good luck to us all with this jump we are going to need it.

coin price is 254 at coinbase.


https://www.coinbase.com/buys


Almost no time left to pick or switch.  2 hours and 7 minutes left but suchmoon makes final cut off not me.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on March 29, 2015, 01:00:40 AM
Almost no time left to pick or switch.  2 hours and 7 minutes left but suchmoon makes final cut off not me.

Countdown clock here:

https://countingdownto.com/countdown/bitcointalk-difficulty-guess-countdown-clock

There is a bit of a grace period while I collect and review the final list but there is no reason to leave it for the last minute anyway. Make your entries or changes now.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: TheAnalogKid on March 29, 2015, 01:58:33 AM
I'll take 4.01 - 4.25 for this round please.  I think the rate will fall over the next few days.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 29, 2015, 02:28:12 AM
Google doc
9.52 slowly going down... not a lot still good though.

Bitwisdowm
Bitcoin Difficulty:    46,717,549,645
Estimated Next Difficulty:    50,222,797,133 (+7.50%)
Adjust time:    After 1053 Blocks, About 6.6 days

So the two are getting closer to reaching each other.  And BTC down a few dollars at around 247.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: adaseb on March 29, 2015, 02:52:04 AM
Google doc
9.52 slowly going down... not a lot still good though.

Bitwisdowm
Bitcoin Difficulty:    46,717,549,645
Estimated Next Difficulty:    50,222,797,133 (+7.50%)
Adjust time:    After 1053 Blocks, About 6.6 days

So the two are getting closer to reaching each other.  And BTC down a few dollars at around 247.

Looks like today ended up flat. I guess it was "bad" luck for some of the pools.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on March 29, 2015, 02:57:02 AM
FINAL LIST

New entries will not eligible for the reward anymore. Looks like we have a lot of empty spots - rollover is likely.

Please take a minute to find yourself in the list and check if your numbers are correct. Thank you.

https://i.imgur.com/buZLQgj.png


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: armedmilitia on March 29, 2015, 06:27:18 PM
I've created a very similar discussion on the bitcoin mining subreddit.
I hope you don't mind phillip. There's 10k subscribers to that subreddit, so I figured a few people there don't have btctalk accounts.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/30pz48/difficulty_speculation_thread_mar_22_apr_5/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/30pz48/difficulty_speculation_thread_mar_22_apr_5/)


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 29, 2015, 07:02:08 PM
I've created a very similar discussion on the bitcoin mining subreddit.
I hope you don't mind phillip. There's 10k subscribers to that subreddit, so I figured a few people there don't have btctalk accounts.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/30pz48/difficulty_speculation_thread_mar_22_apr_5/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/30pz48/difficulty_speculation_thread_mar_22_apr_5/)

No worries.  Cross link us more the merrier.

Op topic with 943 blocks left here we stand

Price from https://www.coinbase.com/buys  = $245

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty = (+8.22%)


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

(+9.59%)  lets hope this goes close to 7.77%


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 29, 2015, 08:13:10 PM
I've created a very similar discussion on the bitcoin mining subreddit.
I hope you don't mind phillip. There's 10k subscribers to that subreddit, so I figured a few people there don't have btctalk accounts.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/30pz48/difficulty_speculation_thread_mar_22_apr_5/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/30pz48/difficulty_speculation_thread_mar_22_apr_5/)

No worries.  Cross link us more the merrier.

Op topic with 943 blocks left here we stand

Price from https://www.coinbase.com/buys  = $245

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty = (+8.22%)


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

(+9.59%)  lets hope this goes close to 7.77%

At this point  I would be thrilled with a 7 anything.   I really don't want a 10 percent or near 10.

BTC price sure has not helped seems to keep a few dollars under 250 for most of this difficulty.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: ezeminer on March 29, 2015, 11:26:28 PM
I've created a very similar discussion on the bitcoin mining subreddit.
I hope you don't mind phillip. There's 10k subscribers to that subreddit, so I figured a few people there don't have btctalk accounts.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/30pz48/difficulty_speculation_thread_mar_22_apr_5/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/30pz48/difficulty_speculation_thread_mar_22_apr_5/)

No worries.  Cross link us more the merrier.

Op topic with 943 blocks left here we stand

Price from https://www.coinbase.com/buys  = $245

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty = (+8.22%)


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

(+9.59%)  lets hope this goes close to 7.77%

At this point  I would be thrilled with a 7 anything.   I really don't want a 10 percent or near 10.

BTC price sure has not helped seems to keep a few dollars under 250 for most of this difficulty.
It was a nice run for a month or two for miners... *sobs over miners*


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 30, 2015, 01:06:48 AM
I've created a very similar discussion on the bitcoin mining subreddit.
I hope you don't mind phillip. There's 10k subscribers to that subreddit, so I figured a few people there don't have btctalk accounts.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/30pz48/difficulty_speculation_thread_mar_22_apr_5/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/30pz48/difficulty_speculation_thread_mar_22_apr_5/)

No worries.  Cross link us more the merrier.

Op topic with 943 blocks left here we stand

Price from https://www.coinbase.com/buys  = $245

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty = (+8.22%)


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

(+9.59%)  lets hope this goes close to 7.77%

At this point  I would be thrilled with a 7 anything.   I really don't want a 10 percent or near 10.

BTC price sure has not helped seems to keep a few dollars under 250 for most of this difficulty.
It was a nice run for a month or two for miners... *sobs over miners*

In my eyes the big thing is if the difficulty increase keeps on during next difficulty.  If it is some new gear we will see if one week they made a big batch, or if a couple weeks they are still bumping difficulty.

Part of me thinks its new gear.  And other part is not sure as I would think something would have leaked on forums, or a article or something.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: lovenlifelarge on March 30, 2015, 03:00:32 AM
Upto 7.40% as of today


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 30, 2015, 03:20:33 AM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

(+8.42%)


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

(+7.35%)

www.coinbase.com

Btc = 245 USD


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Amph on March 30, 2015, 06:55:23 AM
so it rised so much at the end 9%+?

can we do another prediction until april 5 right?


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 30, 2015, 07:03:00 AM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

(+8.42%)


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

(+7.35%)

www.coinbase.com

Btc = 245 USD

Spreadsheet is showing 7.91 right now.  Maybe we can get mid 7's.  Considering we had a negative the change before that would not be a huge loss.

I still wish I knew what caused this jump.  If it is new chips or still old stuff being made.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: adaseb on March 30, 2015, 07:27:01 AM
Finally some "bad" luck with some pools. Yesterday was flat. And today is -15%


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 30, 2015, 01:44:10 PM
so it rised so much at the end 9%+?

can we do another prediction until april 5 right?

I will do a new thread for the next diff.  I also believe Suchmoon will fund the promo at least 3 more times.

Current numbers

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

(+7.96%)

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

(+6.69%)


https://www.coinbase.com/charts

245 USD a btc


@notlist3d

  I am certain a farm was put online or upgraded.  The network is so big now that sales can't drive diff up that easy.   

340ph to 365ph is around 7.35% 

340ph to 370ph is  about  8.88%    so a 25 to 30 ph jump is in the works.

No way that many s-5's were sold and delivered
Or avalon 4.1's either.

So knc and bitfury have both been talking better chips for months.  I have to think one of them turned off old gear last jump and upgraded their farm this jump.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on March 30, 2015, 03:06:49 PM
Finally some "bad" luck with some pools. Yesterday was flat. And today is -15%

Antpool still seems to be doing better than its supposed to (green line is the "supposed to").

http://i.snag.gy/RJgi3.jpg

So I'm gonna say - variance :). Bitcoinwisdom charts are diving down. The spike was tall and wide so it's definitely going have an impact on this cycle's difficulty, but I don't think it will be anywhere near 10%.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 30, 2015, 03:30:30 PM
Finally some "bad" luck with some pools. Yesterday was flat. And today is -15%

Antpool still seems to be doing better than its supposed to (green line is the "supposed to").

http://i.snag.gy/RJgi3.jpg

So I'm gonna say - variance :). Bitcoinwisdom charts are diving down. The spike was tall and wide so it's definitely going have an impact on this cycle's difficulty, but I don't think it will be anywhere near 10%.

Well hot streaks can happen.  When I used to play the ponies
 I picked 4  horses in 4 consecutive  races
 everyone paid 22 to 28 bucks  for  a 2 buck bet.

Picking 4 winning 10 to 1 shots  at a race track is not the same as your example above , but I am sure it is difficult to do.

I believe it was an upgrade of a farm and some good luck stacked in on that.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on March 30, 2015, 03:46:34 PM
I believe it was an upgrade of a farm and some good luck stacked in on that.

I think upgrades and new installations are happening, just perhaps not 25 PH/s at a time. Difficulty has gone up 20-30% in the last ~6 months, when it used to jump that much in a single cycle in early 2014. So I think we're in a more of a steady growth period if BTC price stays where it is.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: GenTarkin on March 30, 2015, 04:12:30 PM
I believe it was an upgrade of a farm and some good luck stacked in on that.

I think upgrades and new installations are happening, just perhaps not 25 PH/s at a time. Difficulty has gone up 20-30% in the last ~6 months, when it used to jump that much in a single cycle in early 2014. So I think we're in a more of a steady growth period if BTC price stays where it is.

Yeah, diff has simply slowed down a lot due to the price being so low, if btc was still $1300 ... diff would most likely be a couple hundred billion by now. IIRC when btc price was its highest AM had announced projections of bringing 2EHASH of hardware online within a year. Which, thankfully never happened. Falling prices curbed them real fast!
Like I always say, mining follows price. So far thats proven nothing but true. Its already happened w/ LTC.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: adaseb on March 30, 2015, 04:30:17 PM
Finally some "bad" luck with some pools. Yesterday was flat. And today is -15%

Antpool still seems to be doing better than its supposed to (green line is the "supposed to").

http://i.snag.gy/RJgi3.jpg

So I'm gonna say - variance :). Bitcoinwisdom charts are diving down. The spike was tall and wide so it's definitely going have an impact on this cycle's difficulty, but I don't think it will be anywhere near 10%.

Thats a nice chart, where did you get it from?


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on March 30, 2015, 04:43:46 PM
Thats a nice chart, where did you get it from?

It's from Hashnest, I have a few GH/s there. Hashnest miners are all pointed at Antpool, so their charts reflect Antpool earnings. You need an account though to see it.

https://www.hashnest.com/hash_currencies/23/income


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 30, 2015, 05:21:07 PM
Interesting that bitwisdom did go down:
Bitcoin Difficulty:    46,717,549,645
Estimated Next Difficulty:    49,767,555,969 (+6.53%)
Adjust time:    After 815 Blocks, About 5.2 days

I would love for it to be in the 6's at this point.  The day before some pools did have some insane luck.  Antpool did amazing.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: ezeminer on March 30, 2015, 05:30:48 PM
Interesting that bitwisdom did go down:
Bitcoin Difficulty:    46,717,549,645
Estimated Next Difficulty:    49,767,555,969 (+6.53%)
Adjust time:    After 815 Blocks, About 5.2 days

I would love for it to be in the 6's at this point.  The day before some pools did have some insane luck.  Antpool did amazing.
Even the solo ckpool got two blocks in the last couple days, which is wild.

Hopefully we see the difficulty stay down. We jumped from like 380PH to 335PH in the last couple of days as well.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: TheAnalogKid on March 30, 2015, 06:24:01 PM
My opinion is variance coupled with Bitmain.

BMT is supposed to start shipping B5 S5's today, right?  It's coincidence that a week before they ship we see a pretty good spike in hashrate, which was relatively short lived.  Also a coincidence that Antpool did really well for a few days, good luck run.  I'm not a huge believer in coincidences.

Could be they were testing the units preparing to ship them, as well as trying to gain a few extra BTC by running the units for a day or two before sending them out the door.

Would only take about 25,000 units to pop up the rate by an extra 30PH, which I would assume is within the realm of possibility.

Now, that being said, if this speculation is true, how will that affect us in the near term?  Obviously if they're shipping out another 30PH or so worth of gear we'll see upwards of a 10% diff adjustment going when it's powered on, if it's meant to be new equipment.  If a good portion of it is to be able to replace and retire older, more inefficient hardware, then the diff adjustment would be a little less and even out to probably 4-7% given a 30-50% replacement rate.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Mikestang on March 30, 2015, 06:50:46 PM

Now, that being said, if this speculation is true, how will that affect us in the near term?  Obviously if they're shipping out another 30PH or so worth of gear we'll see upwards of a 10% diff adjustment going when it's powered on, if it's meant to be new equipment.  If a good portion of it is to be able to replace and retire older, more inefficient hardware, then the diff adjustment would be a little less and even out to probably 4-7% given a 30-50% replacement rate.


I have a feeling it's mostly the latter, replacing old gear.  I think you might be onto something about that initial spike in relation to the S5 batch, that would explain it.  With summer in the north coming up hopefully difficulty will slow down a bit.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 30, 2015, 07:01:07 PM

Now, that being said, if this speculation is true, how will that affect us in the near term?  Obviously if they're shipping out another 30PH or so worth of gear we'll see upwards of a 10% diff adjustment going when it's powered on, if it's meant to be new equipment.  If a good portion of it is to be able to replace and retire older, more inefficient hardware, then the diff adjustment would be a little less and even out to probably 4-7% given a 30-50% replacement rate.


I have a feeling it's mostly the latter, replacing old gear.  I think you might be onto something about that initial spike in relation to the S5 batch, that would explain it.  With summer in the north coming up hopefully difficulty will slow down a bit.

What I wish we knew was who it is.  Companies are quiet so we really nave no idea where the gear is popping up at.

If it is someone replacing with gear we don't know chips they were using.  Would be nice to know if they are new gen or not.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 30, 2015, 07:01:21 PM

Now, that being said, if this speculation is true, how will that affect us in the near term?  Obviously if they're shipping out another 30PH or so worth of gear we'll see upwards of a 10% diff adjustment going when it's powered on, if it's meant to be new equipment.  If a good portion of it is to be able to replace and retire older, more inefficient hardware, then the diff adjustment would be a little less and even out to probably 4-7% given a 30-50% replacement rate.


I have a feeling it's mostly the latter, replacing old gear.  I think you might be onto something about that initial spike in relation to the S5 batch, that would explain it.  With summer in the north coming up hopefully difficulty will slow down a bit.

It is most likely upgrading gear. Many of us keep the  power footprint the same to cut cost of the upgrade.

For an example:

3x  s-3's = 1200 watts and 1.5 th on 1 evga 1300 g2

2x  s-5's = 1200 watts and  2.3th on 1 evga 1300 g2

I think a lot of the above has happened.  but that is not enough for this spike.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  KNC or  Bitfury   did an upgrade of gear. Or one of the new players fired up a farm.

 I track sales for bitmaintech via known bitmaintech  btc address's  they sold under 3000 s-5's since they opened sales back up.

This is just the btc sales so 2x that and 5500 s-5's is the  max they sold.  that is 6ph  or 6.6ph  the jump is  25-30ph if 0 luck helped.

Say 20ph with some luck.  So 20ph- 7 ph = 13ph  maybe 20ph in big farm upgrades or startups.



Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 31, 2015, 01:44:35 PM
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty   (+5.83%)  691 blocks to go

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211  (7.28%)

https://www.coinbase.com/charts  price = 245 usd for a btc


7 people seem to have a shot and 9 open slots in the same area  so we may have a carry over.

+5.01 to +5.25 Chris_Sabian
+5.26 to +5.50 RealMalatesta

   -----1 Open Slot ---------

+5.76 to +6.00 alh 
+6.01 to +6.25 freedomno1


----- 6 Open Slots -------


+7.76 to +8.00 armedmilitia

--- 2 open slots---------

+8.51 to +8.75 zebedee--------------------A switch from (+2.26 to +2.50)
+8.76 to +9.00 Last of the V8s


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: mavericklm on March 31, 2015, 02:35:54 PM
wasn't the deadline on 29?

looks to be around 5 to 6%, purrrrrrrfect!


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on March 31, 2015, 02:38:51 PM
wasn't the deadline on 29?

looks to be around 5 to 6%, purrrrrrrfect!

The deadline for reward entries, yes. Doesn't mean we can't speculate :)


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 31, 2015, 03:17:54 PM
wasn't the deadline on 29?

looks to be around 5 to 6%, purrrrrrrfect!

The deadline for reward entries, yes. Doesn't mean we can't speculate :)


We can speculate :)

Spreadsheet right now shows around 7.7 percent

Bitwisdom shows:

Bitcoin Difficulty:    46,717,549,645
Estimated Next Difficulty:    49,488,903,824 (+5.93%)
Adjust time:    After 676 Blocks, About 4.4 days

Slowly they are reaching each other. It seems like it will be mid 6 to low 7 i would guess.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 31, 2015, 04:40:09 PM
Bitwisdom and spreadsheet seem to be apart pretty far.  Which one is more accurate long term like now?

in this case I would blend the 2 and get an average. Then lean on the high side of the average.

So

 https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty  --------------------------------------------------------------------->>>>>>>>>>>>(+2.00%)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211 -->(+10.40%)

is a 6.20% for an average.

 Lean high  6.66 to 7.77  If I was really trying to pick today. I would look in between  those numbers.

If I was really trying to win the contest instead of always picking -1.11%

 I would grab a 7.01 to 7.25  I watch a lot the next 2 days and adjust on the 28th.

I like your number of 6 I hope it comes closer to it.  That with a negative last time, would not be to bad.

Now if we could only get BTC price up some.

Anyone that followed this post  is very close right now>

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty (+5.97%)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

(+7.92%)


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: geforcelover on March 31, 2015, 06:23:53 PM
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty   (+5.83%)  691 blocks to go

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211  (7.28%)

https://www.coinbase.com/charts  price = 245 usd for a btc


7 people seem to have a shot and 9 open slots in the same area  so we may have a carry over.

+5.01 to +5.25 Chris_Sabian
+5.26 to +5.50 RealMalatesta

   -----1 Open Slot ---------



I,d like to select between this @philip


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 31, 2015, 07:04:08 PM
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty   (+5.83%)  691 blocks to go

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211  (7.28%)

https://www.coinbase.com/charts  price = 245 usd for a btc


7 people seem to have a shot and 9 open slots in the same area  so we may have a carry over.

+5.01 to +5.25 Chris_Sabian
+5.26 to +5.50 RealMalatesta

   -----1 Open Slot ---------



I,d like to select between this @philip

 Sorry the last time to pick was the 29th of March. 


Next contest/promo will start  on the next diff.  say april 5th or 4th.

you will have about 4 days to pick say april 9th. Feel free to read and follow this one. Then make a free pick for the next one.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: alh on March 31, 2015, 07:57:52 PM
Maybe you just want to call it early at 5.97%.....

Just a thought!


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: HerbPean on March 31, 2015, 09:10:54 PM
I wish i had stick to my usual 4,20% !!!!

Never again i will change my mind :P


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on March 31, 2015, 11:14:52 PM
I wish i had stick to my usual 4,20% !!!!

Never again i will change my mind :P

My original was negative.... so I'm feeling good about my switch :).  Guess I was to optimistic.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on March 31, 2015, 11:28:34 PM
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty


Estimated Next Difficulty:   49,485,664,794 [b ] (+5.93%)[/b]


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

   (+7.60%)

624 blocks left  4.3 days  left


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Chris_Sabian on April 01, 2015, 12:48:50 AM
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty


Estimated Next Difficulty:   49,485,664,794 [b ] (+5.93%)[/b]


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

   (+7.60%)

624 blocks left  4.3 days  left

It looks like that huge spike in difficulty about a week ago was just luck?


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on April 01, 2015, 01:03:30 AM
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty


Estimated Next Difficulty:   49,485,664,794 [b ] (+5.93%)[/b]


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

   (+7.60%)

624 blocks left  4.3 days  left

It looks like that huge spike in difficulty about a week ago was just luck?

still up 7% that is way more then gear sold.

I think the 11-13  spike was gear sold + upgrade of a big farm + good  luck.

So the 6-7 now is gear sold + upgrade of a big farm + 0 luck or  - luck


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: ezeminer on April 01, 2015, 01:22:42 AM
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty


Estimated Next Difficulty:   49,485,664,794 [b ] (+5.93%)[/b]


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

   (+7.60%)

624 blocks left  4.3 days  left

It looks like that huge spike in difficulty about a week ago was just luck?

still up 7% that is way more then gear sold.

I think the 11-13  spike was gear sold + upgrade of a big farm + good  luck.

So the 6-7 now is gear sold + upgrade of a big farm + 0 luck or  - luck
We just love speculation :D


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on April 01, 2015, 03:57:13 AM
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty


Estimated Next Difficulty:   49,485,664,794  (+5.93%)


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

   (+7.60%)

624 blocks left  4.3 days  left

It looks like that huge spike in difficulty about a week ago was just luck?

still up 7% that is way more then gear sold.

I think the 11-13  spike was gear sold + upgrade of a big farm + good  luck.

So the 6-7 now is gear sold + upgrade of a big farm + 0 luck or  - luck
We just love speculation :D

dropped more

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

(+6.87%)
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Estimated Next Difficulty:   49,283,026,723   (+5.49%)


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Mikestang on April 01, 2015, 07:04:23 AM
I always hope for negative difficulty adjustment, but at this point I'm just rooting for <5%.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on April 01, 2015, 01:33:19 PM
I always hope for negative difficulty adjustment, but at this point I'm just rooting for <5%.
 

you know I would have thought  <5% to be impossible   about 4 days ago.   Now I am not so sure  maybe it could happen.

555 blocks left!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

(+6.02%)

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Estimated Next Difficulty:   48,666,582,496 (+4.17%)


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/coinbase/btcusd

price = 244 usd

antpool's luck flattened out a lot.



Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on April 01, 2015, 04:39:06 PM
I always hope for negative difficulty adjustment, but at this point I'm just rooting for <5%.
 

you know I would have thought  <5% to be impossible   about 4 days ago.   Now I am not so sure  maybe it could happen.

555 blocks left!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

(+6.02%)

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Estimated Next Difficulty:   48,666,582,496 (+4.17%)


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/coinbase/btcusd

price = 244 usd

antpool's luck flattened out a lot.



I'm surprised with the big difference of difficulty going down.  Do you really thinnk antpool's luck is the biggest thing causing it?


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: sinewave on April 01, 2015, 04:43:04 PM
https://i.imgur.com/lgb7fMK.png

20PH/s disappeared on Antpool today.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Chris_Sabian on April 01, 2015, 05:05:28 PM
https://i.imgur.com/lgb7fMK.png

20PH/s disappeared on Antpool today.

Sorry guys, I was just moving my miners to another pool... ::)

That is a huge change.  I wonder who that was.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on April 01, 2015, 05:08:41 PM
https://i.imgur.com/lgb7fMK.png

20PH/s disappeared on Antpool today.

Sorry guys, I was just moving my miners to another pool... ::)

That is a huge change.  I wonder who that was.

Makes us all wonder a lot.  Never seen a drop like that before.  That is one heck of a bad day for the pool.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on April 01, 2015, 05:09:51 PM
Sorry guys, I was just moving my miners to another pool... ::)

That is a huge change.  I wonder who that was.

<conspiracy>Bitmain unplugged 20,000 S5s in their Test Farm in Antarctica and shipped them to customers</conspiracy>


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: smracer on April 01, 2015, 05:59:02 PM
Maybe they unplugged 20PH and they are waiting for the next difficulty to turn them back on. 

In the GPU days we used to do this so the difficulty didn't spike up too much.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on April 01, 2015, 06:41:04 PM
Maybe they unplugged 20PH and they are waiting for the next difficulty to turn them back on.  

In the GPU days we used to do this so the difficulty didn't spike up too much.

Market Conditions are such that it makes $ sense that power on- off  moves are being made.


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Estimated Next Difficulty:   48,962,687,798 (+4.81%)


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

(+6.53%)

505 blocks left.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Mikestang on April 01, 2015, 08:05:29 PM
https://i.imgur.com/lgb7fMK.png

20PH/s disappeared on Antpool today.

Next batch of miners being removed from burn-in test and getting shipped?


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: valkir on April 01, 2015, 08:16:47 PM
Wow this is getting crazy. Big pool unplug miners to drop the % and then plug them back to get more BTC after.



Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on April 01, 2015, 09:00:26 PM
https://i.imgur.com/lgb7fMK.png

20PH/s disappeared on Antpool today.

Next batch of miners being removed from burn-in test and getting shipped?

 I say no,but not impossible.

I know a lot of btc addies used by bitmaintech  their btc sales are not that high.  way less  10,000 s-5's more like 4000.

 now they could provide a hidden address to a big farm and they could also sell tons via bank transfer.
 
 So if they did 6000  that way and 4000 via btc it is only 10000 units which = 11.5ph.

 But  I do think they may have working s-6 units they fired them up and back down. which could be 4th a unit x 2000 = 8ph.




Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: smracer on April 01, 2015, 09:29:38 PM
Let's wait and see if that hashrate fires back up after the difficulty change.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on April 01, 2015, 10:03:28 PM
Let's wait and see if that hashrate fires back up after the difficulty change.

damn sure we will be looking.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on April 01, 2015, 10:24:25 PM
Let's wait and see if that hashrate fires back up after the difficulty change.

It will be interesting to see what comes.  If hahrate drops overall, if an announcement of next gen comes out, or nothing.

I just hope we do find out what it was.  But a lot of things seem to be quiet.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Mikestang on April 01, 2015, 11:37:10 PM
Let's wait and see if that hashrate fires back up after the difficulty change.

I wish I had 20PH that I could just shut off at a whim when I felt the diff was getting too high.  :D


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: coinits on April 01, 2015, 11:40:40 PM
https://i.imgur.com/lgb7fMK.png

20PH/s disappeared on Antpool today.

Next batch of miners being removed from burn-in test and getting shipped?

Read in another thread (forget which) of a rumored fire at a bitcoin farm in Sichuan province at the time. There was no link to confirm and I could not find anything doing a search of English version of news from there.

EDIT: Mystery solved - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855548.msg10958025#msg10958025

Spring Maintenance and Migration of miners to Bitmain Own facility from Umisoo.com facility


Only temporary!


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: mavericklm on April 02, 2015, 12:25:40 AM
maybe the farmers are starting to sabotage one another ;D

Estimated Next Difficulty:    48,679,112,214 (+4.20%)
this is good!

from September when i started mining till now, diff had jumps ~+5%. i guess it was an ok time to start mining


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on April 02, 2015, 01:04:21 PM
maybe the farmers are starting to sabotage one another ;D

Estimated Next Difficulty:    48,679,112,214 (+4.20%)
this is good!

from September when i started mining till now, diff had jumps ~+5%. i guess it was an ok time to start mining

The interesting thing is antpool now has the hash in 50 PH range once again.  What ever happened it is back to normal there.


*Turns out no conspiracy or anything bad.  Got this out of antpool thread.

P2pool is a tough one to make it work for the engineers.

Hashrate drop...  Spring Maintenance and Migration of miners to Bitmain Own facility from Umisoo.com facility.  Missing hash power will be back in a few days!!

Some customers received email from Umisoo.com regarding the spring cleaning and migration


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on April 02, 2015, 01:23:27 PM
yeah whatever really happened to Ant pool is fixed we are going back up.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

now (+6.13%)

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty


Estimated Next Difficulty:   49,071,015,219  (+5.04%)


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/coinbase/btcusd

price = 250 usd

the 6.13% is most likely  very close to what we finish at.

there are 402 blocks to go.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on April 03, 2015, 03:06:35 AM
Considering I was thinking we might hit 10 percent not as bad as change as i thought.   Also nice to see a little rise in BTC.  I just wish it would go up to 300's and beat that barrier.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: freedomno1 on April 03, 2015, 04:12:55 AM


now (+6.13%)

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

the 6.13% is most likely  very close to what we finish at.


Victory shall taste so sweet
But it is interesting with the blocks remaining that it may be spot on ^^


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: mavericklm on April 03, 2015, 06:27:13 AM
Considering I was thinking we might hit 10 percent not as bad as change as i thought.   Also nice to see a little rise in BTC.  I just wish it would go up to 300's and beat that barrier.

you want btc over 300? are you ready to have over 10% jumps?

i prefer btc down, lower than is now! this way diff will stay low. and as a miner and holder this is the perfect combination

i trust it will go over 1k(maybe 2k or more) in the future, i just want more btc for myself ;D


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: ezeminer on April 03, 2015, 06:32:12 AM
Considering I was thinking we might hit 10 percent not as bad as change as i thought.   Also nice to see a little rise in BTC.  I just wish it would go up to 300's and beat that barrier.

you want btc over 300? are you ready to have over 10% jumps?

i prefer btc down, lower than is now! this way diff will stay low. and as a miner and holder this is the perfect combination

i trust it will go over 1k(maybe 2k or more) in the future, i just want more btc for myself ;D
when the halving comes around a couple of things might happen. Like having btc jump so miners are still useful, btc difficulty drop so that it would be profitable to mine, or many other possibilities.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: EMIF on April 03, 2015, 09:26:24 AM
-----------
when the halving comes around a couple of things might happen. Like having btc jump so miners are still useful, btc difficulty drop so that it would be profitable to mine, or many other possibilities.

At first halving there was another expectation ASIC race. First halving happened then price didnt changed too much. After first ASICs came to market , then BTC market price gone crazy from $ 10 to $ 250 (was peak at btce).

But I agree with you. At the next halving there are lots of possibilities. And its really hard to wait enourmous hash increase due to mining saturation and technology limitations.

Btw, I guessed difficulty just too high. I didnt think mining operators made such tricky things.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on April 03, 2015, 02:32:26 PM
Its not looking horrible. Bitwisdom:

Bitcoin Difficulty:    46,717,549,645
Estimated Next Difficulty:    49,171,956,055 (+5.25%)
Adjust time:    After 238 Blocks, About 1.6 days

And btc remaining over 250 hopefully a slow and nice climb.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on April 03, 2015, 03:40:00 PM
Its not looking horrible. Bitwisdom:

Bitcoin Difficulty:    46,717,549,645
Estimated Next Difficulty:    49,171,956,055 (+5.25%)
Adjust time:    After 238 Blocks, About 1.6 days

And btc remaining over 250 hopefully a slow and nice climb.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211


is at (+6.28%)  we are at 232 blocks to go so  + 5% to + 7 %   looks right.  If this is true   averaged in with the -1.5%   

the last two jumps average to 2.2%


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Chris_Sabian on April 03, 2015, 04:02:47 PM
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty   (+5.83%)  691 blocks to go

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211  (7.28%)

https://www.coinbase.com/charts  price = 245 usd for a btc


7 people seem to have a shot and 9 open slots in the same area  so we may have a carry over.

+5.01 to +5.25 Chris_Sabian
+5.26 to +5.50 RealMalatesta

   -----1 Open Slot ---------

+5.76 to +6.00 alh 
+6.01 to +6.25 freedomno1


----- 6 Open Slots -------


+7.76 to +8.00 armedmilitia

--- 2 open slots---------

+8.51 to +8.75 zebedee--------------------A switch from (+2.26 to +2.50)
+8.76 to +9.00 Last of the V8s

This one is going to be close.  I wonder who will win or if we will roll-over?


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Mikestang on April 03, 2015, 04:59:40 PM
-----------
when the halving comes around a couple of things might happen. Like having btc jump so miners are still useful, btc difficulty drop so that it would be profitable to mine, or many other possibilities.

At first halving there was another expectation ASIC race. First halving happened then price didnt changed too much. After first ASICs came to market , then BTC market price gone crazy from $ 10 to $ 250 (was peak at btce).

But I agree with you. At the next halving there are lots of possibilities. And its really hard to wait enourmous hash increase due to mining saturation and technology limitations.

Btw, I guessed difficulty just too high. I didnt think mining operators made such tricky things.

The next halving will be very interesting because there will not be an exponential growth in the mining gear technology like there was for the first halving.  Personally, I hope btc value stays about the same and the difficulty drops by 60%.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on April 04, 2015, 08:04:56 AM
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty   (+5.83%)  126 blocks to go

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211  (6.34%)

https://www.coinbase.com/charts  price = 253 usd for a btc


5 people seem to have a shot and 7 open slots in the same area  so we may have a carry over.

+5.01 to +5.25 Chris_Sabian
+5.26 to +5.50 RealMalatesta

   -----1 Open Slot ---------

+5.76 to +6.00 alh  
+6.01 to +6.25 freedomno1


----- 6 Open Slots -------


+7.76 to +8.00 armedmilitia



This one is going to be close.  I wonder who will win or if we will roll-over?

under 130 blocks left



Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on April 04, 2015, 10:55:29 AM
Bitwisdom made it over 6:

Bitcoin Difficulty:    46,717,549,645
Estimated Next Difficulty:    49,570,713,533 (+6.11%)
Adjust time:    After 113 Blocks, About 18.3 hours

Also with 6.07 the spreadsheet is under bitwidsom currently


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on April 04, 2015, 02:21:11 PM
Bitwisdom made it over 6:

Bitcoin Difficulty:    46,717,549,645
Estimated Next Difficulty:    49,570,713,533 (+6.11%)
Adjust time:    After 113 Blocks, About 18.3 hours

Also with 6.07 the spreadsheet is under bitwidsom currently


looks like alh  or freedomno1




Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: notlist3d on April 04, 2015, 06:50:07 PM
Bitwisdom made it over 6:

Bitcoin Difficulty:    46,717,549,645
Estimated Next Difficulty:    49,570,713,533 (+6.11%)
Adjust time:    After 113 Blocks, About 18.3 hours

Also with 6.07 the spreadsheet is under bitwidsom currently


looks like alh  or freedomno1




I would agree it's holding pretty solid in the 6's.   Looks like it will be low or mid 6's at the end.

Considering BTC is up just a tad and we didnt get the 10 I thought we were going to get not to bad of difficulty change.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on April 04, 2015, 07:10:22 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211

(6.15%)


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

(+6.34%)

Adjust time:   After 59 Blocks, About 9.5 hours



still looks like alh or freedomNo1


May be midnight  eastern standard time for results.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on April 05, 2015, 02:38:25 AM
very close


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on April 05, 2015, 02:53:58 AM
very close

Looks like freedomno1 or rollover now...

philipma1957, let's make the next reward deadline 2:00 AM UTC, April 12, if you want to put that in the next OP.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on April 05, 2015, 03:08:17 AM
very close

Looks like freedomno1 or rollover now...

philipma1957, let's make the next reward deadline 2:00 AM UTC, April 12, if you want to put that in the next OP.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=561061211


5.96%

 https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

6.04%  


alh or freedomno1 almost in a tie. 


 12 blocks to go.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: edonkey on April 05, 2015, 04:55:59 AM
5 blocks left. Plenty of time for philipma1957 to change his avatar again ;-)


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: MegaFall on April 05, 2015, 04:56:56 AM
Looks like RealMalatesta, alh, and freedomno1 are in play for the BTC 0.01.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: adaseb on April 05, 2015, 05:25:12 AM
According to my pool it already changed to 49.4G


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: MegaFall on April 05, 2015, 05:26:43 AM
Seeing this on BitWisdom:
Apr 05 2015   49,446,390,688   5.84%   353,951,052 GH/s


So if that's the case I owe freedomno1 BTC 0.001.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: mavericklm on April 05, 2015, 06:09:59 AM
+5.76 to +6.00 alh  

lucky son of a gun! ;D

+5.76 to +6.00 alh  ----------------------A switch from +2.51 to +2.75

perfect switch on march 28!

good diff jump! what is under 10% i find it perfect and keeps me relax thinking about mining in the future.
i realise i need to upgrade to keep my income steady, but i don't stress too much


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on April 05, 2015, 01:20:16 PM
Congratulations alh!

Let me know your BTC address.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on April 05, 2015, 01:22:59 PM
Congratulations alh!

Let me know your BTC address.

I will lock this tonight or monday once alh is paid.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Kexkey on April 05, 2015, 01:26:44 PM
Hey congrats alh, winner for the second time!   8)



Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: MegaFall on April 05, 2015, 01:54:12 PM
Freedomno1 sent the runner-up reward to the address on your profile, since you haven't been around here for a few days:

https://blockchain.info/tx/ad0a9140f38fbe0cbe025cf6735a5a2039c83bca5751fa0095a08e667100ec22

Hopefully that address is okay.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: RealMalatesta on April 05, 2015, 07:10:41 PM
As Helen Schneider once sung: *Sooooo cloohoooooose....*


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: Mikestang on April 05, 2015, 07:32:29 PM
Hey, at least it was in the 5s, not too bad.  Especially if you consider last time was negative.  Here's to hoping summer in the north means a slow down/drop in difficulty over the next several months.


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: alh on April 06, 2015, 05:46:02 AM
Sorry for the delay, I wasn't paying attention on Sunday. Took the family to a movie and dinner out. Thanks for the payout, suchmoon:

1DtWBQyiaWyRYRofyPjmRNCpBqWUScqHRc

I agree that while an increase, 5% doesn't hurt anything like 25% last year......


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: suchmoon on April 06, 2015, 06:03:17 AM
Sorry for the delay, I wasn't paying attention on Sunday. Took the family to a movie and dinner out. Thanks for the payout, suchmoon:

1DtWBQyiaWyRYRofyPjmRNCpBqWUScqHRc

I agree that while an increase, 5% doesn't hurt anything like 25% last year......

There you go:

https://blockchain.info/tx/446e9e86464adf8407767456b36fd877d4dadbea60a6a9913f73085b7e62add8

Thanks for participating!


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on April 06, 2015, 11:44:16 AM
Good morning all. Alh a double winner nice.

I am going to lock this up new thread is here:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012578.0


Title: Re: New Diff thread Mar 22 to Apr. 5 not ready for prime time
Post by: philipma1957 on July 15, 2015, 03:56:18 AM
will finish the rest in a week or 2.