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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: February 01, 2019, 09:01:11 PM
And I don't think so. If they wanted they have done it already. What for? Development, mainnet, partnership and so on...

Conspiracy theory in you words )) no offense.

I'm not talking about a full scam. AB wants to do business, but not everything works out for him. But this truth is hidden from the community.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: February 01, 2019, 03:41:10 PM
Hahaha Who made this rating? Understand this issue at the beginning. And then you will understand that the hand washes the hand. There are many scammers and liars recognized by the community in this ranking.

Oh, bro. Again just negative and nothing else from you. We are really a little bit tired of it. Conspiracy theory everywhere from you point of view ))
Because you are proud of this rating, as if this is a great achievement. But the person who figured it out understands that this rating does not matter. Moreover, it is a shame to be on the same list with some cheaters.

Because you are more negative and a little paranoid about every news and I take all positive and believe in best. Will see in some time   Wink
The thing is that in a cryptocurrency environment you need to be negative and careful. I am already convinced that they want to cheat everywhere. And no one will take care of your earnings except yourself.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: January 30, 2019, 05:55:48 PM
Hahaha Who made this rating? Understand this issue at the beginning. And then you will understand that the hand washes the hand. There are many scammers and liars recognized by the community in this ranking.

Oh, bro. Again just negative and nothing else from you. We are really a little bit tired of it. Conspiracy theory everywhere from you point of view ))
Because you are proud of this rating, as if this is a great achievement. But the person who figured it out understands that this rating does not matter. Moreover, it is a shame to be on the same list with some cheaters.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: January 29, 2019, 04:14:13 PM
Hahaha Who made this rating? Understand this issue at the beginning. And then you will understand that the hand washes the hand. There are many scammers and liars recognized by the community in this ranking.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: January 29, 2019, 08:58:12 AM
What many folks miss is that it isn't another P&D project. That's why most of the negative remarks come from. If you were searching for a quick buck, then sorry, this is not the type of project you need. This one is for a long term. I hope people will set their goals right so they won't have wrong expectations later on.
Those people who are looking for a quick dollar have long gone from universa. We just need evidence that universa continues to work with partners with whom it has signed agreements earlier. There is no such evidence, so I conclude that Malaysia, Novotrans, Alfabank and other partners do not work with Universa.

I would like to see the details as well. But the businesses play their own game and prefer to hide the details behind NDA agreements. I guess we just take it or leave it. I decided to stay in the project because I believe in it and believe that work is being done. Otherwise, the team would be long gone. If they are still here then I have no doubt they still work on the project.
Why should the team leave you? This earns good money. This has already become standard practice, when ico imitate violent activity, trying to convince the followers of this.


Didn't catch it. What do you mean? I didn't say that team should leave us. I said we whether accept their approach and support them or don't accept and leave the project. I do support and that's why I stay here.
You said the team would have gone already if they hadn't done anything. But just concluding contracts is not enough, blockchain needs to be implemented. But this is not done now.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀 🔥[ANN][DAO][COINSALE] | EtherInc Blockchain (eInc) [ ETHEREUM FORK ]🔥 on: January 28, 2019, 09:26:08 PM
I have not found ETI at exrates.me, is ETI no longer there?
I see that the developers did not even try to develop the project and do their job. I hope they will answer according to merit for deceiving users.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: January 28, 2019, 09:11:38 PM
What many folks miss is that it isn't another P&D project. That's why most of the negative remarks come from. If you were searching for a quick buck, then sorry, this is not the type of project you need. This one is for a long term. I hope people will set their goals right so they won't have wrong expectations later on.
Those people who are looking for a quick dollar have long gone from universa. We just need evidence that universa continues to work with partners with whom it has signed agreements earlier. There is no such evidence, so I conclude that Malaysia, Novotrans, Alfabank and other partners do not work with Universa.

I would like to see the details as well. But the businesses play their own game and prefer to hide the details behind NDA agreements. I guess we just take it or leave it. I decided to stay in the project because I believe in it and believe that work is being done. Otherwise, the team would be long gone. If they are still here then I have no doubt they still work on the project.
Why should the team leave you? This earns good money. This has already become standard practice, when ico imitate violent activity, trying to convince the followers of this.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔴[ANN] DESICO - The world's first platform to issue and trade security tokens🔴 on: January 28, 2019, 09:07:23 PM
So now I hear that the dev team is working out how to pay the unpaid bounty participants. They are still counting the stakes from the campaigns they made last year. It's interesting that they never started counting since November last year.  It's kind of premeditated, like they know counting stakes will be fruitless since they had zero interest in actually paying.

I guess we will have to wait and see their actions.

I read about that too. Its still unsure whether they will pay or not. Still not going to be surprise if they actually don't pay. You just can't trust anyone even when they are known and have been registered to the government.  They did a bounty campaign 3 times so this must be hard for them to distribute as lots of money will be distributed to the participants.
So they changed their mind? They find out that paying bounty hunters will not make this project legit? And what about the stolen IDs, that was fake news?
This is a standard excuse from developers who do not want to pay. I think there were no stolen IDs. This is just a reason to blame the bounty hunters.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: January 26, 2019, 10:51:21 AM
What many folks miss is that it isn't another P&D project. That's why most of the negative remarks come from. If you were searching for a quick buck, then sorry, this is not the type of project you need. This one is for a long term. I hope people will set their goals right so they won't have wrong expectations later on.
Those people who are looking for a quick dollar have long gone from universa. We just need evidence that universa continues to work with partners with whom it has signed agreements earlier. There is no such evidence, so I conclude that Malaysia, Novotrans, Alfabank and other partners do not work with Universa.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Main] Bitcore- BTX - Partnership with JAXX and ZelCore! on: January 24, 2019, 11:00:30 AM
Why do you call bitcore a piece of crap? Because you did not have time to sell it expensive? Did you buy it expensive and still hold, and why are you angry? Or did you not have time to participate in good money with this coin?

Cause it is. Usless shitcoin with ponzi past, trading on scam exchanges.
Started to trade it in Sep 2017 with 25 mined coins, got ~3200 before I sold it, how do you think? Just can't understand how do people still believe in this complete dead project after all.

could you describe the "ponzi" nature of this coin's past in more detail? the Wikipedia entry of "ponzi scheme" begins with this statement : "A Ponzi scheme (/ˈpɒnzi/; also a Ponzi game)[1] is a form of fraud which lures investors and pays profits to earlier investors by using funds obtained from more recent investors." given that BTX never had an ICO and hence never had "investors," and given that owning BTX is not supposed to give you any sort of recurring source of income (like a dividend), it seems inaccurate to claim that this coin had a "ponzi past." please elaborate - perhaps we are using different definitions of the adjective "ponzi."  for reference, here's the Wikipedia article : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

could you describe the "useless" nature of this coin, given that one can use it to make online and offline purchases? to see where it can be used, go here : https://bitcore.cc/resources/eco-system-2/ (scroll down to "services integrated with bitcore"). it lists kamoney, paytomat (a point-of-sale terminal in physical stores), cryptonaut, luckygames.io, and games4coins.

could you explain what you mean by "completely dead", given that this bitcointalk forum is obviously still active, the reddit forum is active ( https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcore_btx/ ), and the GitHub code repository for the coin was last updated 6 days ago ? ( https://github.com/topics/bitcore ) .

it would help readers of this forum to backup any claims you have with evidence; that would allow you to sway them to your side. I would suggest that, perhaps, people still believe in this project because the measurable evidence of its success which they are aware of (see the links I have supplied above) have not yet been sufficiently countered by measurable evidence of its failure. You say that you started trading it and got close to "3200" before you sold it.  what does that mean? I assume that we are meant to interpret that statement as negative evidence, but the wording (at least to me) makes its meaning unclear.
Do not try to explain this to him. This person considers the Ponzi scheme all that has caused him a loss. The bubble and the pyramid are different things.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: January 24, 2019, 10:55:40 AM
Do you even check the news? So much was done in the past. Core team issue? Look how beta improved with its functionality. New client updates every week. AB issue? Just check what new partnership he negotiated recently. A lot of things happened, that is if you really follow the project. You just evaluate the project from one aspect: its volume. I don't think this is quite correct. That doesn't reflect true potential of the project.
I began to think often about whether there is any sense in these new partnerships? After all, partners do not implement Universa blockchain. At least I haven't heard about it yet.

What is important then for the project focused on B2B/B2G if it's not the partnerships. We may not see immediate results now but if AB constantly signs new partnerships then something will come out of this, sooner or later.
I do not expect immediate results. For example, we have been waiting for Malaysia for almost a year. No results at all? Nothing done at all?
Universa has launched a project with the Ministry of Commerce of Malaysia to issue smart money that cannot be spent on alcohol and cigarettes. Watch here: https://www.facebook.com/Universablockchain/videos/278760636078713/
Rather, they wanted to launch this project. But they did not launch it. As far as I understand, apart from this loud statement, nothing was done on this progect over the year.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: January 23, 2019, 11:58:12 AM
Do you even check the news? So much was done in the past. Core team issue? Look how beta improved with its functionality. New client updates every week. AB issue? Just check what new partnership he negotiated recently. A lot of things happened, that is if you really follow the project. You just evaluate the project from one aspect: its volume. I don't think this is quite correct. That doesn't reflect true potential of the project.
I began to think often about whether there is any sense in these new partnerships? After all, partners do not implement Universa blockchain. At least I haven't heard about it yet.

What is important then for the project focused on B2B/B2G if it's not the partnerships. We may not see immediate results now but if AB constantly signs new partnerships then something will come out of this, sooner or later.
I do not expect immediate results. For example, we have been waiting for Malaysia for almost a year. No results at all? Nothing done at all?
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Main] Bitcore- BTX - Partnership with JAXX and ZelCore! on: January 23, 2019, 11:54:12 AM
Why do you call bitcore a piece of crap? Because you did not have time to sell it expensive? Did you buy it expensive and still hold, and why are you angry? Or did you not have time to participate in good money with this coin?

Cause it is. Usless shitcoin with ponzi past, trading on scam exchanges.
Started to trade it in Sep 2017 with 25 mined coins, got ~3200 before I sold it, how do you think? Just can't understand how do people still believe in this complete dead project after all.
These are the problems of those people who did not have time to sell Bitcore. This is the coin that made me rich. Inflation has lowered the price, and this is normal, if you understand something about the economy.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Main] Bitcore- BTX - Partnership with JAXX and ZelCore! on: January 22, 2019, 08:23:03 PM
do you register on this forum only to say this?
Wow, i'm impressed.

Until devs keep working, this coin will not die.

Do you comfort yourself with this b/s? Bitcore obviously is going to zero and you are unable even to sell this piece of crap.  Grin
Why do you call bitcore a piece of crap? Because you did not have time to sell it expensive? Did you buy it expensive and still hold, and why are you angry? Or did you not have time to participate in good money with this coin?
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DESICO IS A SCAM on: January 22, 2019, 08:14:05 PM
It seems that the Desico team has changed it`s mind and they will pay the hunters.
We have to stay united and monitor the situation how it is progressing.
We should not let the ICOs to make fool out of hunters and doing free advertising to them.
They promised, but still did not count the reward. Could not do it for more than two months. It turns out that they were not even going to pay, if they did not consider the reward relying.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: January 22, 2019, 08:11:06 PM
Do you even check the news? So much was done in the past. Core team issue? Look how beta improved with its functionality. New client updates every week. AB issue? Just check what new partnership he negotiated recently. A lot of things happened, that is if you really follow the project. You just evaluate the project from one aspect: its volume. I don't think this is quite correct. That doesn't reflect true potential of the project.
I began to think often about whether there is any sense in these new partnerships? After all, partners do not implement Universa blockchain. At least I haven't heard about it yet.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DESICO IS A SCAM on: January 18, 2019, 03:34:40 PM
The funniest is that after switching to STO they still ask hunters to continue with their work by extending their bounty campaign for another 4weeks.
Where is that written? This is nonsense, I can not believe it. They are even bolder than I thought. Who will advertise this scam?
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: January 18, 2019, 03:28:42 PM
I think we will hear about new partnership soon.
We constantly hear about new partnerships, and this happens quite often. But users are already immune to this, since nothing happens after the partnership is announced.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Main] Bitcore- BTX - Partnership with JAXX and ZelCore! on: January 17, 2019, 08:49:49 PM
Anybody know how much btx was on there?



Around 600k it seems. Anyway I agree with:
with the cryptopia hack everybody lost only shit coins with no value like Btx and so forth

But I think that coins are safu, cause noone cares about top-300 shitcoins, trading on scamexchanges.

depending on how they hacked the exchange they could have gained access to accounts, sold all shitcoins for BTC and ETH and ran away with them.
Guys, it's easy to check that the btx coins stayed in place in the Cryptopia wallet. Do not spread false rumors.
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/btx/wallet.dws?6363903.htm
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: January 16, 2019, 09:00:09 PM
As for me I think the price will be much higher but I don't make any predictions about time ))
Previously, many users made more confident forecasts for utnp over time. Now most do it more carefully.
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