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101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: July 26, 2017, 01:30:11 PM
Wow, there are lots of very confused people in this thread!

http://damiontrombley.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Fork-In-the-road.jpg

It is a fork, both will have the same historic blockchain, after the split they both go separate ways. If you had bitcoin before the fork, you will have it after on BOTH chains... questions?



How about the statement that every valid BTC transaction (after split/fork) will be valid in BCC chain also Grin
Any questions  Grin

That statement has no validity, they wont be valid on both chains, just as if you travel the road to the left you wont be traveling the road to the right at the same time.

More questions? :/
This:
If your statement is true that shall mean that after fork generated mined bitcoins after 1 of august will no be convertible right Grin
How about that after a split your wallet will be able to generate valid transactions for both chains Grin

Ok, I give up. Have fun come August guys!
I am giving up also i will come back in august to see the funny part Wink
102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: July 26, 2017, 01:25:22 PM
Wow, there are lots of very confused people in this thread!

http://damiontrombley.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Fork-In-the-road.jpg

It is a fork, both will have the same historic blockchain, after the split they both go separate ways. If you had bitcoin before the fork, you will have it after on BOTH chains... questions?



How about the statement that every valid BTC transaction (after split/fork) will be valid in BCC chain also Grin
Any questions  Grin

That statement has no validity, they wont be valid on both chains, just as if you travel the road to the left you wont be traveling the road to the right at the same time.

More questions? :/
This:
If your statement is true that shall mean that after fork generated mined bitcoins after 1 of august wont be convertible right Grin Oh wait where the hell 1:1 free conversion went Grin Are they lying ir just not telling whole truth Huh
How about that after a split your wallet will be able to generate valid transactions for both chains Grin
103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: July 26, 2017, 01:20:32 PM
Wow, there are lots of very confused people in this thread!

http://damiontrombley.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Fork-In-the-road.jpg

It is a fork, both will have the same historic blockchain, after the split they both go separate ways. If you had bitcoin before the fork, you will have it after on BOTH chains... questions?



How about the statement that every valid BTC transaction (after split/fork) will be valid in BCC chain also Grin
How about that after a split your wallet will be able to generate valid transactions for both chains Grin
Any questions  Grin
104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: July 26, 2017, 01:16:53 PM
At the end let us imagine that you are correct and spending BCC will not affect your BTC balance. What is the feature of the coin when everybody will dump their free BCC IMMEDIATELY to get a buck ? Do not tell me that someone will hold that is not the case and you know it Grin
105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: July 26, 2017, 01:13:02 PM
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You can do what you please with the BCC.
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Is this part based on your judgment or what? Are you going to put on risk your 10 BTC based on your understandig?

I can't tell people what to do with their balance. It's up to them to decide what to do with it. I was explaining how to get the BCC balance after the hard fork.
Can you tell how decreasing their BCC balance affects their BTC balance? That is main question...

Spending your BCC should have no affect on your BTC balance. BTC and BCC should be in two different locations and the only currency affected will be the key containing the currency you want to spend/transfer.

Like I said. They will be two separate chains. Meaning they will work independently from one another. Treat them as two separate currencies.

should?
Look i am not native english speaker but as long as i remember from my english lessons about 30 years ago when someone is not quite certain he uses should could would or whatever. There is a different way to express 100% certainty. Correct?
Can you make a statement with 100% certainty? YES/NO
106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: July 26, 2017, 01:06:23 PM
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You can do what you please with the BCC.
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Is this part based on your judgment or what? Are you going to put on risk your 10 BTC based on your understandig?

I can't tell people what to do with their balance. It's up to them to decide what to do with it. I was explaining how to get the BCC balance after the hard fork.
Can you tell how decreasing their BCC balance affects their BTC balance? That is main question...
107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: July 26, 2017, 01:05:02 PM
No they do not. Sorry.....
everyone is free to do whatever he wants.
 
108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: July 26, 2017, 12:59:44 PM
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You can do what you please with the BCC.
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Is this part based on your judgment or what? Are you going to put on risk your 10 BTC based on your understandig?
109  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: July 26, 2017, 12:55:25 PM
Are you dev or something? or a  Guru with 0 POSTS Shocked
Every one is judging dude that is all. So i word from BCC dev is welcome Wink
Why are they so silent? too busy to fix bugs before 1 of august Grin
110  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: July 26, 2017, 12:51:16 PM
What is this?  Still confused about this new coin. This is new script? Another shitcoin is it? How you can be so sure this bcc will equal 1:1 to btc? Just wondering ,I will not hesitate to buy few bcc if they really worth after 1 August

It's hard fork, so whatever you hold on 1st aug before hard fork you will equal amount of coins.
But there is procedure to get those coins you will not gonna get those coins without doing some work with your private keys.
HA!
Realy Grin
So what about exchanges which hold you private keys? You will get free BCC especialy in china Smiley
I can bet on that what about you?



Some of exchange agree to give BCC after fork but mostly denied that they can't support it. If you want to get your BCC move your coins where you can hold your private keys so you can claim your BCC later.

Could you be more specific about exchanges?
Which one agreed and which one denied?
secondly if i have 1 BTC and happen to have account on exchange which will give me one BCC after spending ONE BCC GIVEN HOW MANY BTC will i have
Simple answer please 0 or 1 BTC
Thanks

You will always have 1 BTC and 1 BCC. If you sell those BCC then you will have 1 BTC+selling amount of BCC whatever it will be that time.

I heard VIABTC and BITTREX, OKEX and livecoin will give BCC.
Coinbase and GDAX denied to support BCC there is still 5 days so some more will agree to support and reject the BCC so keep an eye.

Really? So all the guys shall call you if they are not able to sell their 1 BTC left lately? Can you guarantee?
I think you are not right..besides what selling amount of BCC means. you will have and you will be able to see 1 BTC and you will have xxxusd - value of one BCC?

VIABTC already trading BCC but it's locking your BTC till 1st aug.

Check here price of BCC https://www.viabtc.com/quot/realtime?currency=btc&dest=bcc&chart=simple

P.S. read OP carefully to get full info.

Ahah Grin
so you will know how much BTC are left after 1 of august Wink
No thanks!
As i said the game is to gently push chinesse to switch from BTC to BCC. 
111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: July 26, 2017, 12:47:40 PM
Let say I have 10 btc now in my own wallet , then on 1 august  I got 10 Bitcoin Cash right ? at that tim bcc value $200 , so if i sell my 10 bcc that means i sell my btc too at $200 ? then i lose my both coin just for $2000 , am i wrong ?
yeswepump already post above a solution how to save your BTC and get BCC in Electrum wallet - https://electrum.org/bcc.txt
Would you be so kind to enlighten me what will happen if i spent one of the above mentioned BCC? In general i am having 10 BTC. Using your method i convert and i have 10 BTC and 10 BCC correct?
I spent 1 BCC then question is how many BTC will i have 10 or 9? Simple as that
Could you answer me pls. Please do it simple we need just one digit 10 or 9 ?
Judging the "Statement regarding Bitcoin Cash and Electrum", then you will have 10 BTC on Electrum wallet#1 and 9 BCC on Electrum wallet#2.
Judging Huh It will be much more easier if Bitcoin Cash and Electrum devs give a simple answer for ordinary people do you think so?

Judging on majority Judgments i can tell that a lot of people will burn out... Smiley
112  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: July 26, 2017, 12:45:11 PM
What is this?  Still confused about this new coin. This is new script? Another shitcoin is it? How you can be so sure this bcc will equal 1:1 to btc? Just wondering ,I will not hesitate to buy few bcc if they really worth after 1 August

It's hard fork, so whatever you hold on 1st aug before hard fork you will equal amount of coins.
But there is procedure to get those coins you will not gonna get those coins without doing some work with your private keys.
HA!
Realy Grin
So what about exchanges which hold you private keys? You will get free BCC especialy in china Smiley
I can bet on that what about you?



Some of exchange agree to give BCC after fork but mostly denied that they can't support it. If you want to get your BCC move your coins where you can hold your private keys so you can claim your BCC later.

Could you be more specific about exchanges?
Which one agreed and which one denied?
secondly if i have 1 BTC and happen to have account on exchange which will give me one BCC after spending ONE BCC GIVEN HOW MANY BTC will i have
Simple answer please 0 or 1 BTC
Thanks

You will always have 1 BTC and 1 BCC. If you sell those BCC then you will have 1 BTC+selling amount of BCC whatever it will be that time.

I heard VIABTC and BITTREX, OKEX and livecoin will give BCC.
Coinbase and GDAX denied to support BCC there is still 5 days so some more will agree to support and reject the BCC so keep an eye.

Really? So all the guys shall call you if they are not able to sell their 1 BTC left lately? Can you guarantee?
I think you are not right..besides what selling amount of BCC means. you will have and you will be able to see 1 BTC and you will have xxxusd - value of one BCC?
113  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: July 26, 2017, 12:40:12 PM
You just forget that you have BCC in your BTC account and that is all. They are not free. Do not move or spent any BCC poping from nowhere in your BTC account. Start from scratch and that is all. New account BUY SELL MINE BCC from there that is all

ahh seems make sense for now , will see what happen next few days,  thanks for your explanation  Cheesy
PS: I forgot if you happen to sell (CASH MONEY.or other alt coin) all your BTC from your BTC account and you still own some  FREE BCC  Grin Then please spent them Wink
114  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: July 26, 2017, 12:33:29 PM
What is this?  Still confused about this new coin. This is new script? Another shitcoin is it? How you can be so sure this bcc will equal 1:1 to btc? Just wondering ,I will not hesitate to buy few bcc if they really worth after 1 August

It's hard fork, so whatever you hold on 1st aug before hard fork you will equal amount of coins.
But there is procedure to get those coins you will not gonna get those coins without doing some work with your private keys.
HA!
Realy Grin
So what about exchanges which hold you private keys? You will get free BCC especialy in china Smiley
I can bet on that what about you?



Some of exchange agree to give BCC after fork but mostly denied that they can't support it. If you want to get your BCC move your coins where you can hold your private keys so you can claim your BCC later.

Could you be more specific about exchanges?
Which one agreed and which one denied?
secondly if i have 1 BTC and happen to have account on exchange which will give me one BCC after spending ONE BCC GIVEN HOW MANY BTC will i have
Simple answer please 0 or 1 BTC
Thanks
115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: July 26, 2017, 12:26:38 PM

Let say I have 10 btc now in my own wallet , then on 1 august  I got 10 Bitcoin Cash right ? at that tim bcc value $200 , so if i sell my 10 bcc that means i sell my btc too at $200 ? then i lose my both coin just for $2000 , am i wrong ?
Depends on wallet wheather you will get 10 BCC if you change you wallet to BCC one. But let us asume that you get 10 BCC with appropriate wallet then
You are 100% CORRECT  Wink

If we are talking about exchanges it will happen automatically. That is why i recommended to use different exchange (and/or) account HOLDING 0 BTC when dealing with BCC

so let say I have 2 poloniex account , then I move my btc to 1 of my account and move my btc to another account right ? seems confusing about this one
NO!
You just forget that you have BCC in your BTC account and that is all. They are not free. Do not move or spent any BCC poping from nowhere in your BTC account. Start from scratch and that is all. New account BUY SELL MINE BCC from there that is all
116  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: July 26, 2017, 12:24:45 PM
Let say I have 10 btc now in my own wallet , then on 1 august  I got 10 Bitcoin Cash right ? at that tim bcc value $200 , so if i sell my 10 bcc that means i sell my btc too at $200 ? then i lose my both coin just for $2000 , am i wrong ?
yeswepump already post above a solution how to save your BTC and get BCC in Electrum wallet - https://electrum.org/bcc.txt
Would you be so kind to enlighten me what will happen if i spent one of the above mentioned BCC? In general i am having 10 BTC. Using your method i convert and i have 10 BTC and 10 BCC correct?
I spent 1 BCC then question is how many BTC will i have 10 or 9? Simple as that
Could you answer me pls. Please do it simple we need just one digit 10 or 9 ?
117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: July 26, 2017, 12:21:51 PM
What is this?  Still confused about this new coin. This is new script? Another shitcoin is it? How you can be so sure this bcc will equal 1:1 to btc? Just wondering ,I will not hesitate to buy few bcc if they really worth after 1 August

It's hard fork, so whatever you hold on 1st aug before hard fork you will equal amount of coins.
But there is procedure to get those coins you will not gonna get those coins without doing some work with your private keys.
HA!
Realy Grin
So what about exchanges which hold you private keys? You will get free BCC especialy in china Smiley
I can bet on that what about you?
118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: July 26, 2017, 12:10:35 PM

Let say I have 10 btc now in my own wallet , then on 1 august  I got 10 Bitcoin Cash right ? at that tim bcc value $200 , so if i sell my 10 bcc that means i sell my btc too at $200 ? then i lose my both coin just for $2000 , am i wrong ?
Depends on wallet wheather you will get 10 BCC if you change you wallet to BCC one. But let us asume that you get 10 BCC with appropriate wallet then
You are 100% CORRECT  Wink

If we are talking about exchanges it will happen automatically. That is why i recommended to use different exchange (and/or) account HOLDING 0 BTC when dealing with BCC
119  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: July 26, 2017, 12:09:29 PM
I hope the segwit solution or fork will not hurt original bitcoin investors much.
Really?
What if Chinese  exchanges start to trade BCC only and ban BTC Grin
120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: July 26, 2017, 12:02:51 PM
i think Bitcoin Cash will be just wasted electricity for miners.  i'm gonna to dump my coins as soon as possible . It will be huge dump in history.

what if the miners switch to this ?? 440+$ for a con is still a lot of money my friend..the choice will be made on AUG 1

They would be mining at a loss unless difficulty is a fractions of bit coins.  Miners would mine turds if it made money. Mist of them don't want power like jihan wu.

BCC will have difficuly adjustment at fork time
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6oajtg/a_couple_questions_about_uahf_bitcoinabc_bitcoin/

I hear some news about that there won't be any hard fork. So there won't be any split for Bitcoin into BCC.
What is the exact reason behind it for developing this BCC as many people don't any interest in splitting?

There probably won't be any hardfork of BTC itself, but this coin will be a fork of BTC.
It will be a hard fork..sooner or later Smiley Chinese brothers are touching gently this time otherwise they all are going to loose a lot of money
There will be two coins BTC as we know it and another one BCC? or else controlled by Chinese Comrades Wink
They just want to GENTLY force a majority of Chinese players to start using BCC or convert from BTC to BCC. that is all. When it happens they will start to play harder. At the end Chinese hold 70% of both hashing and trading volume, but they do not control it simple as that. This is what they do not like and they will change it sooner or later  Cry
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