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Author Topic: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees  (Read 703578 times)
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July 26, 2017, 12:07:46 PM
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should I receive any BCC I'll just sell them the same way I sold ETC. Even though it clearly is a shit altcoin you could also wait and see if there is a short term increase. Nearly unimaginable to me but there's a tiny possibility this could happen
Sell them only if you MINED them otherwise you are going to sell your BTC at price of BCC Wink

I had same impression that it will work like ETH/ETC case but it is much more complicated. Things are not this simple as seem after reading different point of views. It would be better to keep holding and let the things clear before touching my coins. It is messy everything whatever is revolving around here whole scenario.

Ah yeah good, no I'm not interested in BCC at all. I'm only interested in BTC and I would never even think of selling BTC to get BCC. It's just a random alt.
You are not getting whole point dude. The sad part is that 99% of the people will hook and loose all of their hard earned BTC selling them at BCC exchange rate without knowing what are they doing...
Any way i am getting tired explaining whole thing.
If you wanna dive into BCC then a safe advise for all of you:
1. Use another account (email/user/pass) on same exchange not the one where your BTC are. Side effect it will have 0 BCC at start and 0 FREE coins Grin. If exchange give you some as a gift that is fine take them and sell them Smiley But do not ever mix you BTC with BCC
2. BUY or sell BCC from there only
3. Mine BCC if you wish and use a payout address on your BCC exchange ACCOUNT
4. PERIOD
5. If someday BTC value is lower than BCC value and you have the option to convert BTC to BCC 1:1 ratio as advertised (i doubt it will happen) then go ahead and do it. Otherwise keep things completely separated BTC and BCC

Let say I have 10 btc now in my own wallet , then on 1 august  I got 10 Bitcoin Cash right ? at that tim bcc value $200 , so if i sell my 10 bcc that means i sell my btc too at $200 ? then i lose my both coin just for $2000 , am i wrong ?
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July 26, 2017, 12:09:29 PM
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I hope the segwit solution or fork will not hurt original bitcoin investors much.
Really?
What if Chinese  exchanges start to trade BCC only and ban BTC Grin

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July 26, 2017, 12:10:35 PM
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Let say I have 10 btc now in my own wallet , then on 1 august  I got 10 Bitcoin Cash right ? at that tim bcc value $200 , so if i sell my 10 bcc that means i sell my btc too at $200 ? then i lose my both coin just for $2000 , am i wrong ?
Depends on wallet wheather you will get 10 BCC if you change you wallet to BCC one. But let us asume that you get 10 BCC with appropriate wallet then
You are 100% CORRECT  Wink

If we are talking about exchanges it will happen automatically. That is why i recommended to use different exchange (and/or) account HOLDING 0 BTC when dealing with BCC

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July 26, 2017, 12:18:30 PM
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What is this?  Still confused about this new coin. This is new script? Another shitcoin is it? How you can be so sure this bcc will equal 1:1 to btc? Just wondering ,I will not hesitate to buy few bcc if they really worth after 1 August

It's hard fork, so whatever you hold on 1st aug before hard fork you will equal amount of coins.
But there is procedure to get those coins you will not gonna get those coins without doing some work with your private keys.
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July 26, 2017, 12:20:35 PM
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Let say I have 10 btc now in my own wallet , then on 1 august  I got 10 Bitcoin Cash right ? at that tim bcc value $200 , so if i sell my 10 bcc that means i sell my btc too at $200 ? then i lose my both coin just for $2000 , am i wrong ?
yeswepump already post above a solution how to save your BTC and get BCC in Electrum wallet - https://electrum.org/bcc.txt
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July 26, 2017, 12:21:51 PM
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What is this?  Still confused about this new coin. This is new script? Another shitcoin is it? How you can be so sure this bcc will equal 1:1 to btc? Just wondering ,I will not hesitate to buy few bcc if they really worth after 1 August

It's hard fork, so whatever you hold on 1st aug before hard fork you will equal amount of coins.
But there is procedure to get those coins you will not gonna get those coins without doing some work with your private keys.
HA!
Realy Grin
So what about exchanges which hold you private keys? You will get free BCC especialy in china Smiley
I can bet on that what about you?

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July 26, 2017, 12:23:39 PM
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Let say I have 10 btc now in my own wallet , then on 1 august  I got 10 Bitcoin Cash right ? at that tim bcc value $200 , so if i sell my 10 bcc that means i sell my btc too at $200 ? then i lose my both coin just for $2000 , am i wrong ?
Depends on wallet wheather you will get 10 BCC if you change you wallet to BCC one. But let us asume that you get 10 BCC with appropriate wallet then
You are 100% CORRECT  Wink

If we are talking about exchanges it will happen automatically. That is why i recommended to use different exchange (and/or) account HOLDING 0 BTC when dealing with BCC

so let say I have 2 poloniex account , then I move my btc to 1 of my account and move my btc to another account right ? seems confusing about this one
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July 26, 2017, 12:24:45 PM
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Let say I have 10 btc now in my own wallet , then on 1 august  I got 10 Bitcoin Cash right ? at that tim bcc value $200 , so if i sell my 10 bcc that means i sell my btc too at $200 ? then i lose my both coin just for $2000 , am i wrong ?
yeswepump already post above a solution how to save your BTC and get BCC in Electrum wallet - https://electrum.org/bcc.txt
Would you be so kind to enlighten me what will happen if i spent one of the above mentioned BCC? In general i am having 10 BTC. Using your method i convert and i have 10 BTC and 10 BCC correct?
I spent 1 BCC then question is how many BTC will i have 10 or 9? Simple as that
Could you answer me pls. Please do it simple we need just one digit 10 or 9 ?

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July 26, 2017, 12:26:38 PM
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Let say I have 10 btc now in my own wallet , then on 1 august  I got 10 Bitcoin Cash right ? at that tim bcc value $200 , so if i sell my 10 bcc that means i sell my btc too at $200 ? then i lose my both coin just for $2000 , am i wrong ?
Depends on wallet wheather you will get 10 BCC if you change you wallet to BCC one. But let us asume that you get 10 BCC with appropriate wallet then
You are 100% CORRECT  Wink

If we are talking about exchanges it will happen automatically. That is why i recommended to use different exchange (and/or) account HOLDING 0 BTC when dealing with BCC

so let say I have 2 poloniex account , then I move my btc to 1 of my account and move my btc to another account right ? seems confusing about this one
NO!
You just forget that you have BCC in your BTC account and that is all. They are not free. Do not move or spent any BCC poping from nowhere in your BTC account. Start from scratch and that is all. New account BUY SELL MINE BCC from there that is all

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July 26, 2017, 12:28:59 PM
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What is this?  Still confused about this new coin. This is new script? Another shitcoin is it? How you can be so sure this bcc will equal 1:1 to btc? Just wondering ,I will not hesitate to buy few bcc if they really worth after 1 August

It's hard fork, so whatever you hold on 1st aug before hard fork you will equal amount of coins.
But there is procedure to get those coins you will not gonna get those coins without doing some work with your private keys.
HA!
Realy Grin
So what about exchanges which hold you private keys? You will get free BCC especialy in china Smiley
I can bet on that what about you?



Some of exchange agree to give BCC after fork but mostly denied that they can't support it. If you want to get your BCC move your coins where you can hold your private keys so you can claim your BCC later.
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Let say I have 10 btc now in my own wallet , then on 1 august  I got 10 Bitcoin Cash right ? at that tim bcc value $200 , so if i sell my 10 bcc that means i sell my btc too at $200 ? then i lose my both coin just for $2000 , am i wrong ?
Depends on wallet wheather you will get 10 BCC if you change you wallet to BCC one. But let us asume that you get 10 BCC with appropriate wallet then
You are 100% CORRECT  Wink

If we are talking about exchanges it will happen automatically. That is why i recommended to use different exchange (and/or) account HOLDING 0 BTC when dealing with BCC

so let say I have 2 poloniex account , then I move my btc to 1 of my account and move my btc to another account right ? seems confusing about this one
NO!
You just forget that you have BCC in your BTC account and that is all. They are not free. Do not move or spent any BCC poping from nowhere in your BTC account. Start from scratch and that is all. New account BUY SELL MINE BCC from there that is all

ahh seems make sense for now , will see what happen next few days,  thanks for your explanation bro  Cheesy ....
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July 26, 2017, 12:33:29 PM
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What is this?  Still confused about this new coin. This is new script? Another shitcoin is it? How you can be so sure this bcc will equal 1:1 to btc? Just wondering ,I will not hesitate to buy few bcc if they really worth after 1 August

It's hard fork, so whatever you hold on 1st aug before hard fork you will equal amount of coins.
But there is procedure to get those coins you will not gonna get those coins without doing some work with your private keys.
HA!
Realy Grin
So what about exchanges which hold you private keys? You will get free BCC especialy in china Smiley
I can bet on that what about you?



Some of exchange agree to give BCC after fork but mostly denied that they can't support it. If you want to get your BCC move your coins where you can hold your private keys so you can claim your BCC later.

Could you be more specific about exchanges?
Which one agreed and which one denied?
secondly if i have 1 BTC and happen to have account on exchange which will give me one BCC after spending ONE BCC GIVEN HOW MANY BTC will i have
Simple answer please 0 or 1 BTC
Thanks

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July 26, 2017, 12:35:51 PM
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Let say I have 10 btc now in my own wallet , then on 1 august  I got 10 Bitcoin Cash right ? at that tim bcc value $200 , so if i sell my 10 bcc that means i sell my btc too at $200 ? then i lose my both coin just for $2000 , am i wrong ?
Depends on wallet wheather you will get 10 BCC if you change you wallet to BCC one. But let us asume that you get 10 BCC with appropriate wallet then
You are 100% CORRECT  Wink

If we are talking about exchanges it will happen automatically. That is why i recommended to use different exchange (and/or) account HOLDING 0 BTC when dealing with BCC

If this is the scenario then it is going to be a huge loss to investors who invested more amount into Bitcoin. I think the majority of the people are not showing any interest in splitting to Bitcoin Cash. I think it's better we have to convert them into different other forms of currency like ETH, ETC, Steem etc.

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July 26, 2017, 12:39:29 PM
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What is this?  Still confused about this new coin. This is new script? Another shitcoin is it? How you can be so sure this bcc will equal 1:1 to btc? Just wondering ,I will not hesitate to buy few bcc if they really worth after 1 August

It's hard fork, so whatever you hold on 1st aug before hard fork you will equal amount of coins.
But there is procedure to get those coins you will not gonna get those coins without doing some work with your private keys.
HA!
Realy Grin
So what about exchanges which hold you private keys? You will get free BCC especialy in china Smiley
I can bet on that what about you?



Some of exchange agree to give BCC after fork but mostly denied that they can't support it. If you want to get your BCC move your coins where you can hold your private keys so you can claim your BCC later.

Could you be more specific about exchanges?
Which one agreed and which one denied?
secondly if i have 1 BTC and happen to have account on exchange which will give me one BCC after spending ONE BCC GIVEN HOW MANY BTC will i have
Simple answer please 0 or 1 BTC
Thanks

You will always have 1 BTC and 1 BCC. If you sell those BCC then you will have 1 BTC+selling amount of BCC whatever it will be that time.

I heard VIABTC and BITTREX, OKEX and livecoin will give BCC.
Coinbase and GDAX denied to support BCC there is still 5 days so some more will agree to support and reject the BCC so keep an eye.
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July 26, 2017, 12:40:12 PM
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You just forget that you have BCC in your BTC account and that is all. They are not free. Do not move or spent any BCC poping from nowhere in your BTC account. Start from scratch and that is all. New account BUY SELL MINE BCC from there that is all

ahh seems make sense for now , will see what happen next few days,  thanks for your explanation  Cheesy
PS: I forgot if you happen to sell (CASH MONEY.or other alt coin) all your BTC from your BTC account and you still own some  FREE BCC  Grin Then please spent them Wink

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July 26, 2017, 12:44:24 PM
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Let say I have 10 btc now in my own wallet , then on 1 august  I got 10 Bitcoin Cash right ? at that tim bcc value $200 , so if i sell my 10 bcc that means i sell my btc too at $200 ? then i lose my both coin just for $2000 , am i wrong ?
yeswepump already post above a solution how to save your BTC and get BCC in Electrum wallet - https://electrum.org/bcc.txt
Would you be so kind to enlighten me what will happen if i spent one of the above mentioned BCC? In general i am having 10 BTC. Using your method i convert and i have 10 BTC and 10 BCC correct?
I spent 1 BCC then question is how many BTC will i have 10 or 9? Simple as that
Could you answer me pls. Please do it simple we need just one digit 10 or 9 ?
Judging the "Statement regarding Bitcoin Cash and Electrum", then you will have 10 BTC on Electrum wallet#1 and 9 BCC on Electrum wallet#2.
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July 26, 2017, 12:45:11 PM
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What is this?  Still confused about this new coin. This is new script? Another shitcoin is it? How you can be so sure this bcc will equal 1:1 to btc? Just wondering ,I will not hesitate to buy few bcc if they really worth after 1 August

It's hard fork, so whatever you hold on 1st aug before hard fork you will equal amount of coins.
But there is procedure to get those coins you will not gonna get those coins without doing some work with your private keys.
HA!
Realy Grin
So what about exchanges which hold you private keys? You will get free BCC especialy in china Smiley
I can bet on that what about you?



Some of exchange agree to give BCC after fork but mostly denied that they can't support it. If you want to get your BCC move your coins where you can hold your private keys so you can claim your BCC later.

Could you be more specific about exchanges?
Which one agreed and which one denied?
secondly if i have 1 BTC and happen to have account on exchange which will give me one BCC after spending ONE BCC GIVEN HOW MANY BTC will i have
Simple answer please 0 or 1 BTC
Thanks

You will always have 1 BTC and 1 BCC. If you sell those BCC then you will have 1 BTC+selling amount of BCC whatever it will be that time.

I heard VIABTC and BITTREX, OKEX and livecoin will give BCC.
Coinbase and GDAX denied to support BCC there is still 5 days so some more will agree to support and reject the BCC so keep an eye.

Really? So all the guys shall call you if they are not able to sell their 1 BTC left lately? Can you guarantee?
I think you are not right..besides what selling amount of BCC means. you will have and you will be able to see 1 BTC and you will have xxxusd - value of one BCC?

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July 26, 2017, 12:47:40 PM
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Let say I have 10 btc now in my own wallet , then on 1 august  I got 10 Bitcoin Cash right ? at that tim bcc value $200 , so if i sell my 10 bcc that means i sell my btc too at $200 ? then i lose my both coin just for $2000 , am i wrong ?
yeswepump already post above a solution how to save your BTC and get BCC in Electrum wallet - https://electrum.org/bcc.txt
Would you be so kind to enlighten me what will happen if i spent one of the above mentioned BCC? In general i am having 10 BTC. Using your method i convert and i have 10 BTC and 10 BCC correct?
I spent 1 BCC then question is how many BTC will i have 10 or 9? Simple as that
Could you answer me pls. Please do it simple we need just one digit 10 or 9 ?
Judging the "Statement regarding Bitcoin Cash and Electrum", then you will have 10 BTC on Electrum wallet#1 and 9 BCC on Electrum wallet#2.
Judging Huh It will be much more easier if Bitcoin Cash and Electrum devs give a simple answer for ordinary people do you think so?

Judging on majority Judgments i can tell that a lot of people will burn out... Smiley

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July 26, 2017, 12:48:27 PM
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What is this?  Still confused about this new coin. This is new script? Another shitcoin is it? How you can be so sure this bcc will equal 1:1 to btc? Just wondering ,I will not hesitate to buy few bcc if they really worth after 1 August

It's hard fork, so whatever you hold on 1st aug before hard fork you will equal amount of coins.
But there is procedure to get those coins you will not gonna get those coins without doing some work with your private keys.
HA!
Realy Grin
So what about exchanges which hold you private keys? You will get free BCC especialy in china Smiley
I can bet on that what about you?



Some of exchange agree to give BCC after fork but mostly denied that they can't support it. If you want to get your BCC move your coins where you can hold your private keys so you can claim your BCC later.

Could you be more specific about exchanges?
Which one agreed and which one denied?
secondly if i have 1 BTC and happen to have account on exchange which will give me one BCC after spending ONE BCC GIVEN HOW MANY BTC will i have
Simple answer please 0 or 1 BTC
Thanks

You will always have 1 BTC and 1 BCC. If you sell those BCC then you will have 1 BTC+selling amount of BCC whatever it will be that time.

I heard VIABTC and BITTREX, OKEX and livecoin will give BCC.
Coinbase and GDAX denied to support BCC there is still 5 days so some more will agree to support and reject the BCC so keep an eye.

Really? So all the guys shall call you if they are not able to sell their 1 BTC left lately? Can you guarantee?
I think you are not right..besides what selling amount of BCC means. you will have and you will be able to see 1 BTC and you will have xxxusd - value of one BCC?

VIABTC already trading BCC but it's locking your BTC till 1st aug.

Check here price of BCC https://www.viabtc.com/quot/realtime?currency=btc&dest=bcc&chart=simple

P.S. read OP carefully to get full info.
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July 26, 2017, 12:51:16 PM
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What is this?  Still confused about this new coin. This is new script? Another shitcoin is it? How you can be so sure this bcc will equal 1:1 to btc? Just wondering ,I will not hesitate to buy few bcc if they really worth after 1 August

It's hard fork, so whatever you hold on 1st aug before hard fork you will equal amount of coins.
But there is procedure to get those coins you will not gonna get those coins without doing some work with your private keys.
HA!
Realy Grin
So what about exchanges which hold you private keys? You will get free BCC especialy in china Smiley
I can bet on that what about you?



Some of exchange agree to give BCC after fork but mostly denied that they can't support it. If you want to get your BCC move your coins where you can hold your private keys so you can claim your BCC later.

Could you be more specific about exchanges?
Which one agreed and which one denied?
secondly if i have 1 BTC and happen to have account on exchange which will give me one BCC after spending ONE BCC GIVEN HOW MANY BTC will i have
Simple answer please 0 or 1 BTC
Thanks

You will always have 1 BTC and 1 BCC. If you sell those BCC then you will have 1 BTC+selling amount of BCC whatever it will be that time.

I heard VIABTC and BITTREX, OKEX and livecoin will give BCC.
Coinbase and GDAX denied to support BCC there is still 5 days so some more will agree to support and reject the BCC so keep an eye.

Really? So all the guys shall call you if they are not able to sell their 1 BTC left lately? Can you guarantee?
I think you are not right..besides what selling amount of BCC means. you will have and you will be able to see 1 BTC and you will have xxxusd - value of one BCC?

VIABTC already trading BCC but it's locking your BTC till 1st aug.

Check here price of BCC https://www.viabtc.com/quot/realtime?currency=btc&dest=bcc&chart=simple

P.S. read OP carefully to get full info.

Ahah Grin
so you will know how much BTC are left after 1 of august Wink
No thanks!
As i said the game is to gently push chinesse to switch from BTC to BCC. 

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