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101  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 09, 2016, 07:46:20 AM
Oh, marriedtothesea, you little rascal you...

102  Economy / Speculation / Re: All alts going crazy, people are fed up!!!! on: January 27, 2016, 01:50:52 PM
Look at http://coinmarketcap.com/

Lots of money pouring into alts due to this ridiculous blocksize debate. 

Needs to get fixed soon. 

Not really, if seen on a reasonable time frame, say: ~1 year.

Of the top 5 alts, some are dropping (Ripple), some are flat compared to a year ago (Litecoin), and some are rising (Ethereum). Over the same yearly horizon, Bitcoin is doing pretty good compared to a weighted alt basket (eyeballing it here, don't care to calculate it).

Now, Ethereum is clearly going through a major pump right now. Not just by price, but also judging by how I've received several spam messages in the last week, suggesting to "get in while I can". Which probably only means, the pump is likely to come to an end soon.

For someone who's into short time frame / high risk trading it might make sense to trade that Ethereum pump. But for an investor (or even: swing trader) I doubt the current price to be a good entry point for a long(er) term position.

Ripple on the other hand has been correcting recently, but based on the previous swing up, it looks like it has some upward potential after the correction is over. So if at all, I'd actually rather go long on Ripple than on Ethereum right now, but not really, because: fuck Ripple and their fully de-decentralized model.
103  Economy / Speculation / Re: Stupid Cunts of the Week Thread. on: January 22, 2016, 05:55:04 PM
On a complete tangent: For someone who seems to have a pretty decent grasp of market directionality, your actual trading seems to be kind of lackluster. (Unless those "look at how my last trade spectacularly failed" threads are some kind of diversion metagame). Did you ever consider changing the time scale of your trades, i.e. going from sub-daily/daily, to something closer like daily/weekly?
104  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2016, 12:29:32 PM
(2) property and economical rights of the individual are not absolute but are subordinate to the interests of society as a whole

So you are a communist...

(3) the state is supposed to provide public services like health care, education, social security, transportation infrastructure, emergency and security services, etc.;

So you are a communist...

(4) the state should try to ensure equal opportunities to everybody and ensure that everybody has a decent minimal living conditions.

So you are a communist...


So you are a Nazi?

(Did I do that right? :3)
105  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 21, 2016, 11:54:21 AM
In other words: 2MB maxblocksize or not, segwit now or later -- in any case, the majority of the Bitcoin economy seems to be against artificial transaction scarcity.

Source? Hopefully you aren't basing this off of an unscientific Toomin like poll with small sample sizes and no controls of sample data.
I would also like to analyze the questions posed in the poll as that can greatly effect the responses.

I.E...  

1) Do you want to increase the block size for bitcoin to have very small fees for everyday tx's?

vs

2) Do you want the bitcoin chain to remain efficient and lean with a decentralized p2p payment layer that keeps tx's small for everyday purchases?

Users would likely say yes to both the above even when they are very different plans.

I've already answered that: hashpower (slight majority to strong majority) plus major companies plus the fact that only a fringe of the posters in here, and nearly none on reddit or otherwhere, defend artificial scarcity means (most likely) an economic majority rejects the latter, but seems to be doubtful about technical issues (or doesn't understand them).

You'd rather see a poll? Sure, we can have one, maybe in this thread, or anywhere in this forum - however, I'm pretty sure whatever result we get will be challenged on grounds of manipulation, brigading, whatever.

The real test will be in case we're getting a hardfork. I don't think these should be taken lightly, but I'm also not convinced they are the 'death sentence' some make them out to be. This really runs down to a few basic psychological assumptions people seem to make: will "getting used to hardforks" inevitably mean crypto will be subverted, and capital diluted? Or can they become a (carefully) employed tool to bring about required major changes in the software, without dividing the network beyond repair. I'm leaning towards the latter, in case that wasn't clear already.
106  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 21, 2016, 11:34:01 AM
52% to 72% of hashpower*, two of the most respected developers**, plus what looks like a majority of community sentiment in favor*** are saying otherwise. Oh, right, and I forgot to mention loaded posted he's in favor of 2MB****

* Depending on whether you believe rumors of "false pledges of 2MB allegiance" by some pools.

I believe most miners are indeed in favor of 2MB capacity , but also understand that is what segwit provides.

True. I believe the (likely) majority I cite above doesn't really care how a total tx capacity increase is achieved, only that it is achieved.

That said:

1. Segwit likely constitutes a somewhat smaller increase in tx capacity than a maxblocksize change to 2MB. Bitcoin core itself mentions "1.6MB to 2MB", depending on the type of transaction.

2. What the consensus (I claim exists) really shows is that - technical questions aside - the economical assumptions of the smallblockers arguments are rejected by miners, community, and large economic entities (several of the major companies, and at least a few known cases of major capital holders).


In other words: 2MB maxblocksize or not, segwit now or later -- in any case, the majority of the Bitcoin economy seems to be against artificial transaction scarcity.

This last point is something the economically motivated smallblock proponents (as opposed to the technically motivated ones) need to wrap their head around, but seem unwilling to do, so far at least.
107  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 21, 2016, 11:12:37 AM

I think I'm done arguing. It just has to play out now.

(I was actually going to use that word but couldn't remember it exactly.)

big blocker capitulation is close ... they have no logical ground to stand on and the whole edifice is crumbling, Crassic was just the Hearn echo swansong


52% to 72% of hashpower*, two of the most respected developers**, plus what looks like a majority of community sentiment in favor*** are saying otherwise. Oh, right, and I forgot to mention loaded posted he's in favor of 2MB****


* Depending on whether you believe rumors of "false pledges of 2MB allegiance" by some pools.

**  Yes, yes, we know... "Gavin is a government shill!", "paid for by the banks", etc.

*** In here, across all forums of btctalk, perhaps doubtful -- but much less so on r/bitcoin and r/btc.

**** On reddit. Caveat: not via signed message, so could be fake.
108  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 20, 2016, 05:40:40 PM
Are you suggesting that Bitcoin's security hinges on people's good faith (to not deploy "hundreds of nodes with multiple amazon Ec2 instances without users actively securing them and using them"?!



No. He suggests that a naive attack that succeeds to only create a majority in the least capital intensive of the three areas (nodes, mining, capital/economic majority) in isolation is doomed to fail -- due to a reaction of the rest of the network out of pure self-interest.

109  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 20, 2016, 03:20:22 PM
You've got to love this little market of ours... going full retard in one direction, few days later, full retard in the opposite direction.



just like the stock market oda.krell  Tongue

Well, maybe not exactly the same Wink





(neither in terms of volatility, nor direction, recently)
110  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 20, 2016, 02:53:51 PM
You've got to love this little market of ours... going full retard in one direction, few days later, full retard in the opposite direction.

111  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 20, 2016, 01:49:07 PM
I could do that myself now: make a copy of core, change the PoW formula, and presto: a hard fork happened, and the coin has split.  If the 1000 PH/s is not important, what is the difference between my bitcoin and their bitcoin?

For a start, the PoW.

After that, it depends.

Depends on what?  If the hashpower is not important, and preserving the PoW is not important, then what is the magic factor that would cause all the value to go to the CoreCoin branch instead of the CartelCoin branch? 

Whatever it is that the economic majority thinks is more important. If it is sticking with the existing miner fleet, that's where the value ends up. If it is firing the existing miner fleet, that's where the value ends up. There is no answer you or I can state without that information that is more correct than another.

ELI5 the mechanism for the the "economic majority" to make its wishes known & relevant?

The market.

Quote
Assuming I hold 90% of all the coins mined to date (I'm economic majority), how do I go about this shit?

If you own 90% of the coins, you are the market. Obviously not realistic. In reality there are many participants, and they'll trade with one another and work it out. One fork will be worth more than the other, probably a lot more, but who knows.

It's a pleasure to read you cutting right through the bullshit 'thought experiments' arguments based on economic naivety.

Glad to see you're back on the speculation sub.
112  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: January 19, 2016, 09:50:30 AM
There's no entitlement that I can produce all kind of spam and they have to be included in one or a few blocks (for peanuts).

Guess what, there's no kind of requirement of that for miners either. Even with no block size limit at all. So moot point.


You pay the fee, you are in. In a timely manner.

Unless the block is full and yours happens to be amongst the lower fees *no matter what fee you actually attached* and *no matter what miners would be willing to include your transaction for*.

Go down the post office, pay first class for a parcel to your mother to arrive in time for her birthday then watch in amazement as she doesn't get her present and the post office guy explains "The guy over there wanted to pay more so we threw your parcel in the back of the storage room, LOL"

You pay the fee, you are in. In a timely manner.

OK, what is "the fee"? I want numbers.

I don't know why but the bolded bit really made me laugh.

My post office guy does exactly the same, but tends to end his sentences in "top kek".
113  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2016, 05:36:44 PM
Yeah... that's exactly the kind of post-partisan discussion I had in mind hahaha.
114  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2016, 03:59:14 PM

Very much worth reading. Thanks.

I've had some reservations against Falkvinge previously, not even entirely sure why - there's something vaguely pompous about his online writing I've read before - but this post of his is quite different. Fully agreed with what he writes, how he writes it, and what he's saying between the lines (about the form of governance).

Anyone from 'the other camp' wants to take a shot at it though? I'm always interested to hear a coherent argument against something that appears completely natural and obvious to me - makes me nervous almost if I think it's "natural" and "obvious" hehe
115  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2016, 03:39:03 PM

What exactly should I ask for if I want to follow your footsteps and run a full node on Amazon's smallest, weakest instance type? Is it a Linux instance type because they are usually the cheapest?

What exactly should I ask for if I want to follow your footsteps, but if I want a Windows instance type?

It's pretty straightforward. Just fire up a t2.micro with enough disk space, create a security group that allows port 22 and 9333 and run the node software.

It's fairly similar between windows and linux but I'd recommend linux because it's cheaper and because you don't really need all the things windows does. I'm thinking I may make a video on how to do it.

As in: running a full node on that instance?

What about bandwidth / number of connections? I vaguely remember some recommendations not to bother with running a full node unless meeting certain requirements wrt the previous two variables, since otherwise you're not really adding much to the network. Is that a problem with the EC2 node?

If not, I'm going to start running a few of those instances as well. The reason for me not to permanently run a full node is that I don't have a machine that I don't use otherwise, and that I don't mind being dedicated to the network. But outsourcing it sounds exactly like my kind of deal Cheesy

Please give us a rundown on how to set one up over there, at some point.
116  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is this what they call 'Painting the Tape'? on: January 16, 2016, 02:35:06 PM

Credit where credit is due: taking the painting observation as a sell signal (~$450), which I figure is how you interpreted it, was justified.

Hearn+Cryptsy events added theirs, but the erosion started before that on purely technical grounds, so: you called it.
117  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis ended on: January 16, 2016, 02:28:45 PM
The Chinese version of MMM ponzi is in trouble, bid sum evolution on Chinese exchanges looks sluggish, the latest pump retraced too much IMO...
While the manipulators may try to paint the tape even higher, it may be difficult to reach the next EW up target, around 4000 CNY.
So if the big triangle will break down, I believe testing support at 2100 CNY will become probable. Here, an even bearisher analysis:
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/7G4nEekh-BTCUSD-Update-Stall-At-key-Level-Important-Correction-Bitcoin/

Three days ago price was around 445$, plenty of time for reasonable traders to exit their longs. Lazy-whale oda.krell, are you still long? ::)

Nice try :)

Might have noticed I gave up the book talking a while ago. You?
118  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin, EUR/USD, and AUD/USD short term predictions using machine learning on: January 15, 2016, 08:54:11 AM
Seriously no gloating here (I know how promising, fascinating, but also retardly difficult ML can be Cheesy), but I think your algorithm might need some tweaking...

For the past days, it's been predicting a strong upwards trends, basically: starting about *now* at each time step.

A few days ago:



Today:



By now, there's a wide gap between actual and predicted price, non surprisingly:




This doesn't per se invalidate your algo (could be that it aims for long-term correctness & profitability, but accepts short term deviations), but it leads to a few questions, mainly: did you properly *test* the network?

As in: did you keep training and testing data separate, and did you perform (several) runs on the testing data?

Assuming you did that, perhaps the current situation is an exception, and the predictions will 'snap back' to a more correct level (or price 'snaps back' to your predictions - though I doubt that a bit right now Tongue).

Otherwise, it's possible your model needs to be made more 'reactive', i.e. when model and reality diverge, the model must be able to adjust faster and revise its previous output direction. I could think of a few ways to get there, but this likely requires changing the network architecture, which maybe you'd rather not do.
119  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2016, 07:59:52 AM
I'm not overly sad to see Mike go. He seems to be a seriously competent developer, but on the political and economical dimensions, his absence is a net benefit in my opinion - don't we all fondly remember his 'redlisting' suggestion when he was chair of the Law & Policy committee?


Mike Hearn's exit mic drop

I find it tough to dispute his arguments. It's getting close to fork or die time...

https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-resolution-of-the-bitcoin-experiment-dabb30201f7#.m7ipd85nk

It's easy as shit to dispute his arguments.  He's basically claiming that if the blocks ever fill up, then Bitcoin has failed.  Since Bitcoin can't scale to world reserve currency without really fucking big blocks (133MB with lightning network and way higher without it), it's pretty much guaranteed to have full blocks and a fee market no matter what you do.  While I do think Bitcoin needs at least 8MB blocks to remove most of the glass ceiling on price, his logic is not sound at all about it succeeding or failing based on blocks being full or not.

That post might impress Bitcoin noobs into thinking there's some type of crisis, but blocks becoming full was always destined to happen from day 1.  The real issue is that Lightning Network does not exist TODAY, and so blocks should be raised so that Bitcoin has more room to grow until that happens, assuming Lightning Network is even the solution to all our problems in the first place.  The way I see it, a collateral bid, deterministic block production system with something like 1001 fixed block producers is the only low hanging fruit I see to solve decentralization and on-chain scaling at the moment:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1317450.0

Huh. A r0ach post I entirely agree with. Either I'm getting soft, or you are.

(Also, add to the list of this article's bullshit arguments: "Chinese miners are the reason we don't have bigger blocks". You can blame China's influence (by mining, exchanges, investing) for many things, but causing the blocksize deadlock is not one of them. The big pools have been on record for a long time that they're in favor of raising the limit in principle.)

(EDIT) Agreeing with everything, except maybe for your PoS pet project. But that's a decision to be revisited long into the future, so it doesn't bother me to think about it.
120  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 13, 2016, 11:54:35 PM
Segwitt details are well understood, well documented , and with corresponding code and now is in the main testnet instead of just sidechain. Bitcoin Classic has none of that and has contradictory proposals right now as they attempt to formulate what it is.

[...]

Basically, one is clear and the other is still being formulated so we should with-hold judgment.

Sure. It seems to be more of a colour the mid-Blockians are supposed to rally behind for now, rather than a fleshed out proposal.

That said, there's quite some difference in complexity between Segwit and "change the maxblocksize int", right?
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