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1001  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: 500 avalon chips in hand shipping tommorow from EU on: September 05, 2013, 10:15:13 PM
thx for answers
seller will consider best offer.
sorry he hadnt have time today

i will answer pms tommorow.
1002  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: 500 avalon chips in hand shipping tommorow from EU on: September 05, 2013, 12:22:23 PM
I'd like 100 chips for 3btc. Shipped to North Carolina, USA.

please dont troll, go away
1003  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTB] Asic, gpu. Get rid of graphic card or ASIC, i will pay. on: September 05, 2013, 07:55:23 AM
Sorry but i am not interested in reference 5870 cards.
They are little bit too loud and hot.
1004  Economy / Computer hardware / 500 avalon chips in hand shipping tommorow from EU on: September 04, 2013, 10:34:26 PM
Hi

How much you would pay for it?
 
can be sold in batches of 20.

Please, real offers. chips are in hand!

Can be shipped to burnin tommorow, chips are not far away from him.

Post offer here or pm.
I will organise trade.

It is not a fake offer.
1005  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTB] Asic, gpu. Get rid of graphic card or ASIC, i will pay. on: September 04, 2013, 10:09:58 PM
Where are you from?
What about model and condition of 5870?

I am not interested in cpu/mobo
1006  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [Selling] LCD PiMiners (Pre-Configured) 3BTC on: September 04, 2013, 06:17:58 PM
Bump

Please update price. For 3 btc i can buy 3 great tablets with android and great display and tiny power usage.
1007  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] Delivered and Mining BitForce 500 GH/s Mini Rig SC on: September 04, 2013, 06:16:10 PM
500btc for 500GH/s ?

He is open to offers.  Smiley

Better buy few new cars, hide in cave for 20 years and sell

500 btc is a lot of fiat now Smiley
1008  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Bitfury ASIC sales in EU and Europe on: September 04, 2013, 05:23:53 PM
If i buy now, when it will be shipped?
1009  Economy / Auctions / Re: 5x HIS iceQ 6950 on: September 04, 2013, 04:45:13 PM
All @ 2.22 btc
1010  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] Delivered and Mining BitForce 500 GH/s Mini Rig SC on: September 04, 2013, 04:26:36 PM
500btc for 500GH/s ?

360 btc wasted... Or more
http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/50a2936f7b

1011  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTB] Gpus, get rid of graphic card i will buy on: September 04, 2013, 04:17:46 PM
If you dont have gpu or asic for sell dont post there.
Trolls are not welcome.

Wink
1012  Economy / Computer hardware / [WTB] Asic, gpu. Get rid of graphic card or ASIC, i will pay. on: September 04, 2013, 04:14:58 PM
Hi

I would like to buy some graphics cards and asic.
I am interested in

5770 0.25 btc
7770 0.5 btc
7790 0.65 btc
5850 0.5 btc
5830 0.3 btc
5870 0.6 btc
7950 1.2 btc
7970 1.5 btc

Jalapeno 2 btc
Little single 8 btc
Single 16 btc
Other bfl pm
Erupter blade 3.3 btc
Usb miner 0.13 btc
bitfury, bitburner, klondike pm
No preorders! Only in hand.

I am not interested in avalon devices and chips.



Please note:

Prices are negotiable based on device condition.
Only working cards and devices
If you have invoice/warranty i will pay more
Pm me offers. I will answer every pm.
Escrow or bitmit possible.

I live in eu so if you are in other continent you have to offer more than few cards.

Please dont comment prices. They are decent.
1013  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: How many GHs do you need to break even if you got a miner now? on: September 04, 2013, 10:44:11 AM
decent price of GH/s for ASIC in hand is 0.3 BTC

if you overpayied you will not get your BTC back
1014  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: September 04, 2013, 10:40:44 AM
Because of my work I constantly deal with EU companies and I can guarantee you that there is no VAT in anything I buy/sell in the EU. In fact, my KNC miners have 0% VAT on the invoice.

but you will have pay this vat anyway in your country
than you substract your icome vat from your customers from same period of time (3 months)

and if you dont have sales that quarter you are doomed.

i had a company i know such things
1015  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: September 04, 2013, 10:33:22 AM

why 450 GH/s?
real is 400 GH/s
please stop unicorn dreaming

http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/86741a2c2a

have you ever heard talk about conditionals?
bye anyway, I'm going back to sleep now Tongue

sure
but 13 PH is possible in march
1016  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: September 04, 2013, 10:31:04 AM
http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/624b263dcf

that is real price for first september batch buyers from eu.

glad i have sold shares Smiley

http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/6dd76c6ce6

Mine looks good. The biggest problem with your calculation is you used BTC for price of hardware. 90 BTC.
Just want to know where you got 90 from? Because in-order to have paid 90 BTC, the exchange price would've had to been at $70. It hasn't been at $70 for quite some time now so... dumb or just starting shit? Roll Eyes

Wasn't it around 70$ when he ordered?

no, 5 june 2013, 15:53
http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg180zczsg2013-06-05zeg2013-06-05ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv
120$/btc

add VAT 23%
add shipping Smiley
add fee



So...

7000 (miner) + 1610 (vat) + 150 (shipping + 50-100 (bitcoin fees?) = 8860 / $120 = 73.8BTC

Nowhere near 90 BTC.

Yep, 70ish BTC is also the figure I'm considering from the very first minute to calculate ROI. I paid in $$, but you know, the right way to calculate the return is to see if you at least recoup the same amount of coins you could have bought with your $$ when you placed the order. The miners are still profitable, but honestly is not looking very good. If they are only a couple of weeks late, it will be hard to reach break-even.

Do not forget that all those calculators consider 100% uptime, which never happens. Calculating 90% to 95% uptime is much more reasonable, I'd recommend to insert 360GH/s as hashrate for a 400GH/s unit in order to factor possible downtime.

Sorry i messed up.
miner was ordered 8.06.2013 with price 108$


7000 (miner) + 1610 (vat) + 150 (shipping + 50-100 (bitcoin fees?) = 8860 / $120 = 73.8BTC

Nowhere near 90 BTC.

7000 (miner) + 1610 (vat) + 150 shipping + 50-100 (bitcoin fees?) + 886$ 10% group buy fee = 9746$ / $108 = 90BTC




Buying such an expensive, proffesional gear, as a consumer really sucks, because you will have to pay VAT and you won't be able to recoup it, which is a profit killer. IMO a $7k miner is not a consumer product at all, it should be bought by a registered company so you can recoup the VAT - or in case the registered company is in the EU, you won't be charged any VAT at all.

you have to pay vat in your domestic country anyway
you can substract it after if you have invoices from your customers

so paid vat upwards - customer sales vat = real vat you have to count
1017  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: September 04, 2013, 10:28:19 AM
why 450 GH/s?
real is 400 GH/s
please stop unicorn dreaming

http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/86741a2c2a

So lemme ask again. How did you come to pay 90 BTC for one miner? You're a groupbuyer are you not?

Did you like buy 100% shares of a full miner and then paid the 10% groupbuy fee/other fees as well?

no, i have bought some mining shares (with vat, shipping, group buy guy fee)
but i have sold them

1018  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: September 04, 2013, 10:12:45 AM
http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/624b263dcf

that is real price for first september batch buyers from eu.

glad i have sold shares Smiley

http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/6dd76c6ce6

Mine looks good. The biggest problem with your calculation is you used BTC for price of hardware. 90 BTC.
Just want to know where you got 90 from? Because in-order to have paid 90 BTC, the exchange price would've had to been at $70. It hasn't been at $70 for quite some time now so... dumb or just starting shit? Roll Eyes

Oh wait you're that idiot who canceled their order because you're bad at maths and now you're in here now just to troll/spread fud because you're butthurt.

If he hadn't canceled his order he would have made a few bucks of profit, in case KnC will keep promises and really over deliver in terms of Hash power, let's say 450 GH/s.


why 450 GH/s?
real is 400 GH/s
please stop unicorn dreaming

http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/86741a2c2a
1019  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: It's 86.9M. Do you know where your ASICS are? on: September 04, 2013, 09:57:34 AM

nice setup
Smiley

i have sold all my gpus
now i hash with my asic only
52GH/s, 385W

i hope it will pay off
1020  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: September 04, 2013, 09:52:38 AM
http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/624b263dcf

that is real price for first september batch buyers from eu.

glad i have sold shares Smiley

http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/6dd76c6ce6

Mine looks good. The biggest problem with your calculation is you used BTC for price of hardware. 90 BTC.
Just want to know where you got 90 from? Because in-order to have paid 90 BTC, the exchange price would've had to been at $70. It hasn't been at $70 for quite some time now so... dumb or just starting shit? Roll Eyes

Wasn't it around 70$ when he ordered?

no, 5 june 2013, 15:53
http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg180zczsg2013-06-05zeg2013-06-05ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv
120$/btc

add VAT 23%
add shipping Smiley
add fee



So...

7000 (miner) + 1610 (vat) + 150 (shipping + 50-100 (bitcoin fees?) = 8860 / $120 = 73.8BTC

Nowhere near 90 BTC.

Yep, 70ish BTC is also the figure I'm considering from the very first minute to calculate ROI. I paid in $$, but you know, the right way to calculate the return is to see if you at least recoup the same amount of coins you could have bought with your $$ when you placed the order. The miners are still profitable, but honestly is not looking very good. If they are only a couple of weeks late, it will be hard to reach break-even.

Do not forget that all those calculators consider 100% uptime, which never happens. Calculating 90% to 95% uptime is much more reasonable, I'd recommend to insert 360GH/s as hashrate for a 400GH/s unit in order to factor possible downtime.

Sorry i messed up.
miner was ordered 8.06.2013 with price 108$


7000 (miner) + 1610 (vat) + 150 (shipping + 50-100 (bitcoin fees?) = 8860 / $120 = 73.8BTC

Nowhere near 90 BTC.

7000 (miner) + 1610 (vat) + 150 shipping + 50-100 (bitcoin fees?) + 886$ 10% group buy fee = 9746$ / $108 = 90BTC


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