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221  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICMINER TUBE first look :) IKEA style miner first time ever on: August 29, 2014, 11:22:08 PM
Looks like the S3 is a better deal as its price is dropping. Buy 2. Lower power consumption, higher hash (2 units). Dosnt need any
controller that further needs a proxy to fix it's flawed communications.

Plus I don't like that the boards are serial daisy chained. bad board takes out others behind it.

Not to mention crappy controller or issue of 'pool" fixing solution go'es south and you take out up to 4 units.

each S3 is stand alone direct to a pool.

AM should stick to chips and let others do the miner engineering. They proved that with the lemon cube.


But... you have to wait till end of sept for ants Smiley
and they are more expensive

here is photo of part of my farm Smiley

222  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Beastlymac - scammed me for 3.1 btc - gridseeds group buy on: August 29, 2014, 04:48:56 PM
what i have missed?
that you or your supplier have scammed community for 30+ btc?

maybe this that i accused you of mining ? no i didnt. read again my posts.

maybe my "slanderous lies" based on your pms to my brother that he have not ordered anything?

and that you have performed successfull scam attempt on my brother not responding to him within 4 months?

if you performed scam say sorry and pay for your errors.

if you want this case attached to your nick it is your problem.

stop qouting whole discussion and focus at matter.

say sorry to me, my brother, remove feedback, compensate for your scam and finish case like man.
223  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Beastlymac - scammed me for 3.1 btc - gridseeds group buy on: August 29, 2014, 06:53:45 AM
Quote from: bbxx
I just posted that you have arranged sale and customer got used goods. If your middleman used it it is your fault so you should compensate.

You have made an accusation that is impossible. I never personally touched Mr. Jinx order it was shipped direct to him so i couldn't have mined with it. Please stop your preposterous lies. Please do not make such hypocritical comments about me omitting things. Since we are on the topic of not actually answering posts please respond to everything below and answer all points truthfully.

prosperous lies? wtf
why it is impossible? if customer got used gridseeds someone was mining with it. maybe you or your middleman. someone did.

Quote from: Beastlymac

If this happened to me (and has before)

- I would read the terms i was agreeing to before i make an order (as everyone should)
- I would have sped up the process by either sending a message via Skype or copying the message
- I would have made it pubic within a week
- I would have kept up to date with the thread
- I would provided all shipping details required making the order

He sent you about 10+ messages and emails and you have been ignoring him to perform scam. this is fact.
He was never at public list and you were asking only for payment confirmation not shipping addres so he was sure that he will be refunded. If you had asked for shipping addres instead for signed message he would give you shiping addres. This is fact.
Rest of this advices are underlining your unproffesional seller attitude.


I have never agreed to beastlymac ridiculous terms.

Quote from: Beastlymac
You where given 5 days to respond via pm or via publicly and you didn't that is your issue. You where given the options.

He has responded 30.07 that he will not agree at your crazy terms.

beastlymac why you have been ignoring my brother within 4 months?
until i joined to help him?
you have tried to scam him and you did.
please pay for your errors.

Quote from: Beastlymac
The current situation is
Your brother recieved a refund for the single chip devices
He recieved the proceeds of the 5 chip device sale that was a consequence of him not responding publicly or via pm to me within the 5 day period.
You won't be getting more. Your brother was not scammed this was all caused by him not providing his shipping details (being the domino that set this whole problem in motion) when he made payment and when he agreed to the terms I have stuck by.

My brother was scammed by you as you have not responded to his pms and emails since 13.04.2014 having his payment proof.
if you would respond "here are your 1BTC from usb devices and please provide shipping addres for gridseeds" it would be normal. you ignored him. it is scam.[/size]

Please answer what steps you did to compensate scammed people below.

Quote
so who was mining with his gridseeds between feb and may ?

Very big accusation to make by basing it on no proof. To my knowledge nobody mined on any of the devices that where shipped to customers who ordered in that groupbuy.

It is not accussation, it is question. If gridseeds has been ordered at 7.02.2014 and orders were fullfiled since march someone has made an error
Jinx reported that he got used miners at may.

You are not responsible for this ?

Lot of people were scammed same way, cointerra, bfl, vmc, avalon, bitmine etc.
getting miners months late

If you have offered compensation you should get it from your middleman and distribute to your customers.
If you have not received compensation from your middleman you should pay from your pocket.

You should know that mature seller is used to pay for his errors.

Very big accusation to make by basing it on no proof.

Quote
Re: [SOLD OUT][Worldwide] Gridseed 1 chip + 5 chip Dual miners 0.105/0.405 btc
25-04-2014, 09:03:19
   
 #742
Got my seeds, not that I'm thrilled or anything.  No controllers though, but a pi substitute would of been nice.  Guess I should count my blessings that I got cords for them eh...  Declared value could have been lower too.  Custom charges into Canada are not nice here.  Sum it all up, ROI  10 months minimum.  Oh and no extras here...

Edit: some have clearly been previously used.  Not stock shelving dust, but dust buildup from the fans being run

Quote
Re: [SOLD OUT][Worldwide] Gridseed 1 chip + 5 chip Dual miners 0.105/0.405 btc
03-05-2014, 18:46:50
   
 #762
Received my incomplete order today.
Just 10 gridseeds with some cables.
Controller, power supply and usb hub missing.
Great Angry

have you compensated for missing controllers, powers supply, hubs, lost mining time, used goods?
no.

you are scammer

224  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: asicminer tube in hand eu sealed on: August 29, 2014, 05:40:05 AM
Is it possible to use a PC/RPI as controller?

no. not yet.
225  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: asicminer tube in hand eu sealed on: August 29, 2014, 05:39:37 AM
pl
226  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Beastlymac - scammed me for 3.1 btc - gridseeds group buy on: August 28, 2014, 09:25:27 PM
Might be time to check into these 2 jokers and where they have pulled this before. Seems to be a well rehearsed game they are playing here. Probably pull this crap on Ebay etc to get their mining for free.

Extortionists.

feel free to order from scammer and have no response within 4 months and after half a year 95% loss.

it is scam.
227  Economy / Computer hardware / asicminer tube in hand eu sealed on: August 28, 2014, 09:21:38 PM
hi

i got some tubes for sell, sealed.
can ship assembled too.

unfortunatelly i dont have spare controllers.

shipping immidiatelly, escrow welcome, can be polmine.pl escrow.

if you are in eu and want to save on custom fees offer is for you.

if you want more than one i can sell with controller (up to 8 tubes)

i have good psu offer too.

pm me if you are interested, but i will not sell at loss.

thanks
228  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICMINER TUBE first look :) IKEA style miner first time ever on: August 28, 2014, 07:52:20 PM
Got my units hashing.
Shipment with controllers arrived today.
I will post more tommorow.
229  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Beastlymac - scammed me for 3.1 btc - gridseeds group buy on: August 27, 2014, 08:18:05 AM
In your other thread you have lied again.

curious miner ordered and paid for goods at 7.02.2014 (3.1 btc) that is a lie it was on the 5/2/2014
curiousminer order sent to fabricator 7/2/2014

i said he ordered and paid at 7.02 This is a lie he ordered on the 5th
in fact he has send you pm 5.02 and you stated that order was sent 7.02
i dont see lie there, only misunderstanding. I have highlighted the lie for you.

Quote
so who was mining with his gridseeds between feb and may ?

Very big accusation to make by basing it on no proof. To my knowledge nobody mined on any of the devices that where shipped to customers who ordered in that groupbuy.

It is not accussation, it is question. That is an accusation

Very big accusation to make by basing it on no proof.

Quote
Re: [SOLD OUT][Worldwide] Gridseed 1 chip + 5 chip Dual miners 0.105/0.405 btc

Edit: some have clearly been previously used.  Not stock shelving dust, but dust buildup from the fans being run


Your quote doesn't prove that i used them. It claims dust was on the miner. So you are saying i used them? Just for conformation please say yes or no to this question.

I just posted that you have arranged sale and customer got used goods. If your middleman used it it is your fault so you should compensate.
What about rest of my post ?
Like you usually do you omit important parts.

pathetic
230  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Beastlymac - scammed me for 3.1 btc - gridseeds group buy on: August 27, 2014, 06:42:49 AM
In your other thread you have lied again.

curious miner ordered and paid for goods at 7.02.2014 (3.1 btc) that is a lie it was on the 5/2/2014
curiousminer order sent to fabricator 7/2/2014

i said he ordered and paid at 7.02
in fact he has send you pm 5.02 and you stated that order was sent 7.02
i dont see lie there, only misunderstanding.

Quote
so who was mining with his gridseeds between feb and may ?

Very big accusation to make by basing it on no proof. To my knowledge nobody mined on any of the devices that where shipped to customers who ordered in that groupbuy.

It is not accussation, it is question. If gridseeds has been ordered at 7.02.2014 and orders were fullfiled since march someone has made an error
Jinx reported that he got used miners at may.

You are not responsible for this ?

Lot of people were scammed same way, cointerra, bfl, vmc, avalon, bitmine etc.
getting miners months late

If you have offered compensation you should get it from your middleman and distribute to your customers.
If you have not received compensation from your middleman you should pay from your pocket.

You should know that mature seller is used to pay for his errors.

Very big accusation to make by basing it on no proof.

Quote
Re: [SOLD OUT][Worldwide] Gridseed 1 chip + 5 chip Dual miners 0.105/0.405 btc
25-04-2014, 09:03:19
   
 #742
Got my seeds, not that I'm thrilled or anything.  No controllers though, but a pi substitute would of been nice.  Guess I should count my blessings that I got cords for them eh...  Declared value could have been lower too.  Custom charges into Canada are not nice here.  Sum it all up, ROI  10 months minimum.  Oh and no extras here...

Edit: some have clearly been previously used.  Not stock shelving dust, but dust buildup from the fans being run

Quote
Re: [SOLD OUT][Worldwide] Gridseed 1 chip + 5 chip Dual miners 0.105/0.405 btc
03-05-2014, 18:46:50
   
 #762
Received my incomplete order today.
Just 10 gridseeds with some cables.
Controller, power supply and usb hub missing.
Great Angry

have you compensated for missing controllers, powers supply, hubs, lost mining time, used goods?
no.

you are scammer
231  Other / Meta / Re: Beastlymac feedback issue on: August 27, 2014, 06:06:21 AM
curious miner ordered and paid for goods at 7.02.2014 (3.1 btc) that is a lie it was on the 5/2/2014
curiousminer order sent to fabricator 7/2/2014

Sorry i made an error, curiousminer ordered items at 5.02.2014 not 7.02.2014
and it is not a "lie".

I just to use date format DD.MM.YYYY as whole europe do.

Wasp Joe, Sure i will not flame you, dont worry.
232  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Beastlymac - scammed me for 3.1 btc - gridseeds group buy on: August 27, 2014, 05:48:01 AM
you have stated that you have private list
i added that (only with curiousminer)

that does not mean that
you stated that you have private list only with curiousminer.

but...

do you know what the difference was between your brother and everyone who received their miners? Only one difference. Your brother never provided his shipping details.

also

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=712480.msg8407246#msg8407246
with no denial from your side.


So what you are admitting now is that it was a lie.

Thanks


Wether or not the rules are standard for other people doesn't make a difference i set out my rules at the beginning that your brother accepted.

Jason20005 should have received his miners.

I have also already posted multiple times about why miners where late.
Please come up with something original instead of repeating things that have already been answered.

I replied to your brother before you sent me a message threatening to ruin my account if i don't comply with your demands (blackmail)

I already commented on why the feedback is true.



Hi

My brother asked me for help, but i dont have it signed at paper.

Whole scam case is like that:

curious miner ordered and paid for goods at 7.02.2014 (3.1 btc)

In your other thread you have lied again.

you dont understand what lie means?

so i lied that you had private list becouse you stated that?

my fresh "lie", sorry he paid 5.02.2014, i made mistake.

those 2 days does not matter though.

jason20005 has not received miners/btc at 26.04.2014 so in my opinion he has been scammed by you too (or your middleman).
if he received items 27.04.2014 his items would be valued 4+ times less.
so who was mining with his gridseeds between feb and may ?
233  Other / Meta / Re: Positive (Green) Feedback on: August 26, 2014, 10:02:36 PM
worst case

you have been scammed by member who is at default trust
and you got false trust entry from him, red

not only you lost btc, but also bitcointalk account.

sometimes perfect, clean, valuable 2011 hero member account...

sad.
234  Other / Meta / Re: Beastlymac feedback issue on: August 26, 2014, 09:11:54 PM
I'm asking you to please provide the txid's here, I don't have the time to go dig around the threads if I'm trying to help you.




You said it was 30+ btc, now it's 3.1 btc. I'm confused???
30+btc is estimated total loss generated by beastlymac activity, 3.1 btc is sum what my brother has paid and almost lost all.

Can you have your brother PM me please with the details so I can confirm this information? It's really a necessity for your brother to be fighting this fight (i am sure you are caring about your brother and upset over this). The person who legally bought these items must be the one fighting the battle unless there is signed court documents otherwise.

sure, he will pm you tommorow, now it is almost night at my country and he is not able to write at forum.

When your brother ordered from beastly was there a notice that all sales were final? Can you help me by screen shoting it and posting it to me in PM?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=436031.0
All 5 chip devices will ship to me on the 10th of February. I expect to be shipping on by the 13th. All orders paid for and submitted to the shipping company can NOT be refunded.
but curiousminer was not put at the public list (he sent refund request dated at 10.02.2014, in response he got ask for signed message only (beastlymac has not stated that there is no refunds), he sent message at 13.03.2014, beastlymac started ignoring him from this time). Please note that Bestlymac wrote also that any order not on the list will be refunded.

Was there a guarantee on date of shipment? Were you aware that gridseed was backed up and many people were waiting months for gridseeds?

Gridseed is specific device, loosing value every day. Beastlymac stated that shipment will start at 13.02. Lot of people lost ton of money (300 gridseeds at 0.4 btc, when received their value dropped 50%+). there was no hashrate protection but beastlymac promised compensation he never paid.

I appreciate you posting that image, but I don't care about the negative feedback at this moment. I care about money and property being properly returned to the people. We can worry about feedback later please, feedback is irrelevant to the actual property/finances.

Good to hear that. Beastlymac trust feedback are evidence of not resolved issues (when people lost money).


As far as used gridseeds go: I have ordered "brand new" products from gridseed that have come dusty and without psu's (were the psu's promised in the sale? and do you know if maybe beastly and this other person had an arrangement to not ship the psu's so as to not cause issues with customs? I know that PSU's add a ton of weight and sometimes set off bomb alerts).

i dont know about psu issue, Mr Jinx has ordered complete set with psu, he got used miners without psu shipped at may! He also got false trust feedback from beastlymac. - that is main reason to ban/punish beastlymac.

Beastly says over and over again he is willing to ship you the miners or auction them off so as to get your your btc back. If your worry is due to the price fluctuation in btc, its a risk we all take. If your worry is that scrypt profitability is in the crapper. That's another risk we all take.

Beastlymac made scam attempt on newbie account, ignoring any comunication within 4 months. If Beastlymac 10.02 answered fairly (sorry no refunds, please transfer order), there would be not this topic. I can imagine that he did whole thing on purpose, to scam user for 3.1 BTC.

I will be honest: I have not had an issue with beastly at all ever. He also lives in australia, and I believe you are half a world away. I one time ordered an asic from beastly and it took 2 months to arrive because aussie postal services are horrible. Maybe that's part of the issue. (aussie postal service held up beastly's import)
Also, please pm me an email address so I can email you and you can send me all of the proof for both sides. I will also get beastly's side too if that is a good starting point for both of you.
Sadly I was informed of this issue and have not been able to follow everything that transpired before hand so I need some constructive help without calling people scammers/liars (that's both of you).

I am glad that you are willing to help. I can serve with all evidence you need. I will pm you my and curiousminer email address.


So, can you both send me all of information on it privately so it can be settled instead of both sides getting upset?
If you both would like, I can be the arbitrator, with a binding say... OR I can attempt to find one for you. Unfortunately, I can not suggest an arbitration service since you both are not within my country.

Both sides are very upset, also Bicknellski joined to the party called me unfarily fake brother, clown, asshole and many other bad things.
As my and my brother authenticy, gandalfg who is part of wasp project can confirm that me and my brother are real, he knows us personally

My last little confusion is this: beastly has the gridseeds for you now, but you do not want them?

Beastlymac decided that he will sell goods at auction, he sent 0.05 proceeds from it (brother paid 2.1 btc). My brother never agreed for this solution, as he stated at his post dated at 30.07 at scam thread. Bicknellski feedback left at curiousminer profile is false then.

Is this whole issue because you and your brother were marked untrustworthy? Because That's what I'm seeing here

There are 3 reasons for this.

1. My brother lost around 2.05 btc due to Beastlymac erroreus communication (ignore/silence mode within 4 months)
2. My hero member account with perfect trust rating, was destroyed by false feedback put by Beastlymac, Bicknellski and one user who ignored my pm about his entry. beastlymac has entered false feedback three times (about "lies" based on his lies).
3. I checked whole group buy gridseeds thread and i found evidence of more harmed people like my brother (scammed and and destroyed account). I am hero member so i will try to resolve all issues related to this group buy. I have been scammed at past and I am just to warn people about potential scammers, i saved a lot of btc posting at securities forum - labcoin, VMC, smidge.

Thank you very much again, it is very positive that there are some good souls at this forum who like to have issues solved.

please note my english is not perfect it is not my country language so i make a lot of gramar/stylistic errors.
235  Other / Meta / Re: Beastlymac feedback issue on: August 26, 2014, 06:20:10 PM
Hi

My brother asked me for help, but i dont have it signed at paper.

Whole scam case is like that:

curious miner ordered and paid for goods at 7.02.2014 (3.1 btc)
since he proved his payment at 13.03.2014 beastlymac has stopped communication (he owed him 1btc for usb and 2.1btc for gridseeds)
he multiple times asked for refund/shipment but beastlymac tried to scam him not responding at all.
beastlymac answered once within this time asking for email to him to speed up communication (beastlymac never answered for those emails)
till 5.07 beastlymac has not responded to emails and pms, finally i helped my brother to solve this case.

in result my account and my brother account was marked as untrustworthy by beastlymac who has scammed my brother.

beastlymac has also scammed other member, jinx, he shipped his gridseeds at may (10 gridseeds ordered 7.02.2014), he got used miners without psu.
jinx in response got also profile destroyed, beastlymac being at default trust tree put feedback.

such unfair, unpolite, scammy person as beastlymac should be removed from default trust tree

ps.tx id are at scammy thread at my profile, easy to find.

examples of beastlymac scam are below
236  Other / Meta / Re: Beastlymac feedback issue on: August 26, 2014, 05:27:24 PM
you have stated that you have private list
i added that (only with curiousminer)

that does not mean that
you stated that you have private list only with curiousminer.

but...

do you know what the difference was between your brother and everyone who received their miners? Only one difference. Your brother never provided his shipping details.

also

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=712480.msg8407246#msg8407246
with no denial from your side.
237  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Beastlymac - scammed me for 3.1 btc - gridseeds group buy on: August 26, 2014, 05:24:58 PM
Every group buy does not have to adhear to your idealistic goals do you deny that your brother agreed to the terms i am upholding?
Rules for a group buy i organise are at my discretion.

rules for group buy are easy, people pay, order goods, you ship them.
if any data is missing to fulfill/refund order you should ask for them (immidiatelly when goods are ready to ship)

they are not idealistic Smiley they are standart for canary, yxt, ssb, etc

would you imagine that any of them is holding your goods within 4 months and not responding to pms?
asking for email "to speed up communication" and not responding to that emails ?


I would like to state that my inbox has 2500+ pm's and it is easy to miss 4 in that number.

if you made an error, pay for it!


Since you don't like to use the dollar value as an example of how much i have sold on this forum use the sum 700+ BTC
3000 Bluefury miners
300 gridseed miners
1000 bitmain U1

ok so 500.000$ for usb miners.
and 70+ btc loss generated by you (promising date 13.02, delivering months later, used goods - gridseed scam buy )

nice.

The signed message was required for the refund of the single chip devices

You got his message signed at 13.03.2014, why you have not paid that time, instead you have started to ignore him till july when i joined the party? (hero member with perfect clean account and reputation, i suggested scam thread ) ?


Also your comment about me trying to scam him is also false. I have never attempted to scam anyone.

holding within 4 months customer equipment/btc not responding (intentionally) to his pms and emails is scam attempt.
this time you have succeded attempt (customer got 95% loss).

can you explain jason20005 ? got his miners/btc? or is it next scam evidence ?
or Mr Jinx who got his 10 gridseeds at may and you put negative feedback at him ?



about my next "lie" Smiley

Quote from: bbxx
you said that he is at your private list (list with only him)

You have also lied again in your post that you just made (please back that up with proof that I have a list with only your brother on it as that is a perfect example of your deceitful lies).

ok here you are
do you know what the difference was between your brother and everyone who received their miners? Only one difference. Your brother never provided his shipping details.

your false feedback thread is here. i hope you will be banned after Mr Jinx activity and my profile spam
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=718663.msg8543491#msg8543491

238  Other / Meta / Re: Beastlymac feedback issue on: August 26, 2014, 04:46:02 PM
problem is beastlymac has been denying that curiousminer has order anything.
he has not asked for shipping address.

he just asked for payment proof and after getting it he went into silence mode, 4 months,
having or not having his miners.

he tried to scam my brother, and he did it.

my and my brother are 30+, sorry for bad grammar, i am not native english speaker

sad fact is he is accusing me of lies and this topic is about this.


239  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Beastlymac - scammed me for 3.1 btc - gridseeds group buy on: August 26, 2014, 04:35:46 PM
lying about rules?

those below?

rules for group buy are easy, people pay, order goods, you ship them.
if any data is missing to fulfill/refund order you should ask for them (immidiatelly when goods are ready to ship)

try to be at curiousminer situation
you order goods from forum member.
forum member has your miners and is not responding to your pms and emails within 4 months.

for me it is scam.
for you it is fair and it comply with your rules.
Ok.

so you are scammer

rules i have posted above are standart for all group buys.
you have negating them

are you serious fair seller

or

sad little guy who is messing up everything and is ignoring customers commmunication, closing own grup buy threads (after mods reopened it)

can you afford to pay for your errors? no. you stated that you sold goods for 500.000$
and it is lie. you sold few hundreds usb miners when btc had low walue but you translate it into huge sales?

that sums up your pathetic behaviour.

you want to stay as scammer till end your sales history here? ok. your problem.
will you not delete false accusations of lies from my profile? no? ok. your problem.

this case went to public anyway and i doubt that you will make next 500.000$ sales due to gridseeds group scam you have performed.
240  Other / Meta / Re: Beastlymac feedback issue on: August 26, 2014, 03:45:32 PM
in your opinion i "lied" saying you have not ordered anything for my brother.

i said this becouse you stated this at your pms.

after that you said that he is at your private list (list with only him) and you have ordered it

so my "lies" are based on your lies.

am i lier or you are scammer?



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