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10141  Economy / Speculation / Re: So USA seems to have picked Donald Trump. Help or hurt btc prices. on: November 10, 2016, 06:58:13 AM
I am wondering if we get a solid run up in Btc and for any alt coins.

Now that a very unusual result has occurred.

Thoughts ?

My guess is a big shift in prices due to this result.



At mods feel free to move thread if you want.

The Bitcoin world and all the other cryptocurrencies are just a blip on the radar. It is funny that people overestimate Bitcoin's influence on the world and vice versa. A lot of peoplein the mainstream still think that Bitcoin is a scam and a ponzi. If you think deeply about it, it is not that yet but it could be depending on what happens to it 10 - 20 years from now.

So my opinion on the Trump thing would be if he imposes more regulations then that is what Bitcoiners should be looking for because now there is a need for Bitcoin to fill that market just like how it filled the darknet. Imagine if drugs were legal and that you could pay with your credit card for them. That would suck for Bitcoin.
10142  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Dubai accepts Bitcoin on: November 10, 2016, 06:10:21 AM
It's often seen that getting tourist to come is difficult and those that do manage to come often struggle with currency fluctuations, recent ones being when euro broke down, and in India news which is getting global attention Rs. 500 and 1000 notes invalid. In all this this is a welcome news that Bitcoins is accepted in dubai also now, cheers to the entire community.

Blockchain can ‘gamify’ tourism https://cointelegraph.com/news/dubai-and-norway-use-blockchain-to-redefine-tourism




This could be just another gimmick and that they just want to ride the bandwagon. We keep hoping for Bitcoin to "get adopted by the mainstream" when its real strength comes from enabling markets that the banks and payment processors do not want to serve. That means the darknet markets, criminals, hackers, illegal gambling sites operating outside of regulation, etc.  When I read titles of articles like that, I just roll my eyes and ignore the news. The current centralized systems is already more efficient and cheaper to use for their use case.
10143  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between Bitcoin and real money? on: November 10, 2016, 05:33:41 AM

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Why would I convert my $ to bitcoins?

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Why would you like to convert? From your OP then maybe the best reason for you to convert is for the purpose of speculation so that you could grow your "real money $". It is what you want right? It is what we all want. Then along the way you discover that it really is not that bad to buy a fake Rolex in the darknet market, or drugs if that is what you are in to. Gambling in a Bitcoin site is also easier. No docs necessary and the cashouts are very fast. You will also discover other stuff can be done with Bitcoin.

Then you just realize that you became a Bitcoiner naturally along the way.
10144  Economy / Economics / Re: What if US Dollar Crashes? on: November 09, 2016, 01:56:26 AM
I was thinking about this, what if the US Dollar crashes like speculated by many renowned economists around the world?
What will be it's affects on the beloved currency, BTC?

Then all the economies around the world will be affected in a negative way. The US Dollar is the world's no. 1 reserve currency. Almost all of the countries hold their reserves in USD. Importers, exporters, international traders, crude oil prices are all transacted in USD so it would be possible that the global economy could go thru a depression.

I would believe that BTC will be affected negatively also because all the mining farms, Bitcoin merchants and other Bitcoin based businesses all need fiat, their operations do not depend solely on BTC.
10145  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: $1.4 Billion Invested in Bitcoin & Blockchain Investments on: November 09, 2016, 01:31:36 AM
Isn't there a fundamental difference between a public blockchain (bitcoin) and a private blockchain? Private blockchains are not really open ledgers and are a little different than blockchains that are independent of banks.

Yes and there is an argument that it would be cheaper and more efficient for the banks to use their current systems or use a database. Also why would the banks use a blockchain? That would mean that they would have to share their data to all the other banks. Do the banks really trust each other that much? What secures this private blockchain, is it also proof or work? I cannot imagine a real blockchain without proof of work.
10146  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Casualty List on: November 09, 2016, 01:17:44 AM
Having shown the Bitcoin companies that are dead or showing a loss in their balance sheet. What then are the companies that are making money? I can only think of some of the darknet market places are making money, some high traffic gambling sites like NitrogenSports and maybe a few of the more dominant exchanges. I would think that even a Bitcoin company that is highly funded like 21 Inc. has no revenue and profit as of now.
10147  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which Trading Books Have You Read, Have They Helped You? on: November 08, 2016, 05:30:36 PM
I have read a book about Japanese candle sticks and no it did not work for me so I gave up. I just buy and hold Bitcoin and usually wait for dips to buy more because I believe that this is a good long term investment. It is working for me so far even though the dips I am waiting for do not come and I am forced to buy at higher prices sometimes.
10148  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bitcoin: The Black Swan on: November 08, 2016, 05:18:22 PM
Then Bitcoin may have back fired on "them". The darknet market prefers to use Bitcoin and it is growing. The regulations "they" have imposed is what subsidised Bitcoin if you get what I mean. Drugs, stolen goods, fake goods, and all other unregulated, illegal items could now be bought online using Bitcoin. Bitcoin is making those illegal markets online possible and easier to participate in.

LOL

Maybe our definitions of "they" are different?



The "they" I know doesn't care about regulations.

Then "they" have already won, Bitcoin or no Bitcoin. It makes the argument wider and beyond the scope of Bitcoin because "they" control everything. There is nothing we can do but to accept our lives as it is and that there is no way out of this. For all we know "this" has been going on for centuries.
10149  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bitcoin: The Black Swan on: November 08, 2016, 03:44:12 PM
Then Bitcoin may have back fired on "them". The darknet market prefers to use Bitcoin and it is growing. The regulations "they" have imposed is what subsidised Bitcoin if you get what I mean. Drugs, stolen goods, fake goods, and all other unregulated, illegal items could now be bought online using Bitcoin. Bitcoin is making those illegal markets online possible and easier to participate in.
10150  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Rootstock RSK Fork on: November 08, 2016, 03:33:39 PM
Is there really a need for a smart contract platform for Bitcoin? What would be the possible use cases for these and what markets would it possibly serve? The other question is would it be cheaper and more efficient to run services as a smart contract?
10151  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: $1.4 Billion Invested in Bitcoin & Blockchain Investments on: November 08, 2016, 02:42:53 PM
Blockchain technologies ≠ Bitcoin

Just the opposite, development of commercial Blockchain use, especially by mainstream banks with fraud protection, will most certainly end any public desire for Bitcoin. Why would you use Bitcoin when you can have a professionally developed system that's automatically fully integrated into society?

The people in the darknet market would prefer to use Bitcoin, so will the ransomware hackers, etc. There are also other niches where the underserved and the unbanked will prefer to use Bitcoin or because they have no choice. Bitcoin is serving and will be present in markets where the banks do not want to go into.

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Current Bitcoin devs can't rapidly solve the growing pains of Bitcoin. If some well financed company like Chase bank or Wells Fargo decided to throw money at "Blockchain Technology" it sure as hell wouldn't take a couple of years to solve the block size issue.

Bitcoins continued success still relies on young people (broke people) wanting to mine free money from the internet. How survivable will Bitcoin be in ten years when that's no longer possible?

No. You are not seeing the whole picture. There are untapped markets where Bitcoin will be preferable. They will mostly be unregulated black market places and illegal but still potentially worth billions of $.
10152  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Exciting Bitcoin Projects! on: November 08, 2016, 12:01:32 PM


Well you are right , what's important is that it is currently being discussed. Honestly i have no idea of  21 INc can you give me some links for that so i can have some updates on it thanks.

https://21.co/

I cant believe you didnt heard of them, one of the biggest companies in bitcoin, with all sorts of good tools.

There was an article somewhere that said that 21 Inc. will pivot from a hardware maker to software. I googled to search for the article but I could not find it. Maybe it was posted on /r/bitcoin or in this forum.

What sort of "good tools" did they create? I remember the Bitcoin computer was only a raspberry PI with a node and a bootstrapped blockchain. It was a big let down.
10153  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Prices to Rise or Decline if Hilary Clinton Elected POTUS? on: November 08, 2016, 11:45:38 AM
What is your theory?

There is reasoning for either side.

 Huh

Will it really matter who the president is? Bitcoin is supposed to be outside the mainstream and it is subsidized by the current fed regulations in the United States. Think about if Paypal was allowed by the government to be open to the darknet drug market. Bitcoin will lose its market niche. I know a lot of you want mainstream adoption but I like the underground to become mainstream because of Bitcoin.
10154  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will mobile devices serve as BTC full nodes in the future? on: November 08, 2016, 05:23:07 AM
The Bitcoin blockchain has been the biggest one in size, compared to other blockchains, thus making sync time take quite some time. Nevertheless, as storage capacity increases each time, we've now seen new standards for mobile devices like a 200GB microSD card.

Now, storage like 200GB is far than enough to store Bitcoin blockchain data. So my question is, will there exist a possibility of running a full node from within your mobile device sometime in the future?

It would be ideal to achieve this, since mobile devices are much more accessible than PCs. Looking forward for your opinion about this.  Smiley

My initial thought would be no. But I am not closing my mind to the idea. 20 - 30 years ago we would not have thought that computers in our pockets were possible, now it is a part of regular life. Maybe in the future a Bitcoin node would run in a smart phone like it was nothing. Although there is the bandwidth issue to consider.
10155  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Roger Ver: Bitcoin Scaling Solution Segwit a “Bait and Switch” on: November 07, 2016, 04:12:42 PM
I would like to see what gmaxwell and the other Core developers' response to this is. Calling Segwit a "bait and switch" seems a little unfair. Everyone is free to check and look at the code to see for themselves. I am not a coder so it would be nice for someone who is neutral to comment on Roger Ver's bait and switch statement.
10156  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Platform To Trade on: November 07, 2016, 04:04:25 PM
If you are into trading which platform or exchange you use and why you use that particular one.I want to start trading and wants to know where should I begin from?

It really depends on what you plan to trade. If you want to trade BTC/USD go to BTCE or Bitstamp, for BTC/EUR use Kraken. If you plan to trade altcoins go to Poloniex, they are the most popular exchange right now for altcoins. I would also advice to stay away from Bitfinex. They are having problems right now.
10157  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Reports of China Banning Bitcoin Are Greatly Exaggerated on: November 07, 2016, 03:29:19 PM
Of course this was exaggerated "news"!
To me it looks like some people aren't ready accumulating cheap coins and therefore spread again some FUD and nonsense.
I mean we were again on the way up, some negative news from china popped up and we crashed.
Nothing will happen!! There will be no ban in China!

How can they really even "ban" Bitcoin? By design it is censorship resistant. They could ban the exchanges but the people will find other ways to convert their fiat to Bitcoin. Bitsquare.io is right there waiting, the darknet markets will not go away and there will be other markets that have yet to be discovered right now. They could threaten to "ban" it but they could not do anything except stop the conversion to fiat. That is good because maybe we need to start realizing that there is no need to convert to fiat.
10158  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC is overheated. I OPENED SHORT postition on: November 07, 2016, 01:17:49 PM
Rule number one. Hodl

Generally that is sound advice. Any dips in price should be viewed as an opportunity to buy more. I know this sounds funny when you give this same advice for altcoins. With Bitcoin it is not. There is already a market where value transfer is needed and there are more markets out there that have yet to be discovered.
10159  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bitcoin: The Black Swan on: November 07, 2016, 12:42:50 PM
To the OP. That is a stretch sir. You have to remember that we already are enslaved one way or another with or without Bitcoin. Also fiat currencies are a more preferable tool for them to maintain the status quo because they control the supply and are also regulated by them.
10160  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Tesla's building a solar roof , It can be a good days for bitcoin miners? on: November 07, 2016, 12:35:40 PM
Small solar powered mining farms located around the world would be an ideal scenario for Bitcoin. At least that is one problem solved to make the network last for the long term. Imagine all the energy to do Proof of Work is all coming from the sun. That would be something.
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