Seeings how TMAN won't answer or provide the proof and you're so big on the self-escrow portion of this bet Lauda. Show this community where OgNasty agreed to self-escrow. All I see is a childish TMAN donating 0.2BTC to the NastyMining public address.

Awaiting TMANs next insult against me.

I am getting tired of asking the same question. You opened this thread. Now provide proof so the readers can take proper steps whether it be negative trust, not using his escrow service, etc...

It looks more like you forced responsibility of the funds on OgNasty in an attempt to discredit him. Now please answer my question at the bottom of my first post and show me where he agrees to self-escrow. Thanks.

Please provide the proof I asked for in the bottom of my post. It will clear up this whole situation. I may have missed it in the other thread but as of right now it is up to you to provide the information to prove that this scam accusation is legitimate.

You can not answer my questions with other questions on this board.

as i was there throughout the whole thread and an active commenter I will add my concerns here about the bolded topics that never did get answered, only insults.

1) Blazed was the first Escrow Agent listed, since he was not around TMAN decided to use Zepher who backed out of acting as escrow due to not wanting to deal with the drama. Nowhere did I see OgNasty offer to self escrow for this bet. This however was said


2) Had TMAN waited for a trusted escrow to act as mediator in the discussion and bet, proper terms would have been agreed upon by both parties. Instead he decided to send 0.2BTC (this amount was also never agreed on) to the address that OgNasty had listed for the Escrow Agent to send funds to if he did indeed win this bet.


Looking at OGNasty's escrow thread here ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303281.0 ) it is clear that TMAN should have sent 0.202 to the address if he were serious about using OgNasty as an escrow.

I now ask for the comment wherein OgNasty agrees to self-escrow for no fee in the thread listed in OP of this accusation.

Thank you for that, I am pretty genuine in what I choose to post, i try not to take sides and am here to buy or trade the coins that cross the Collectibles forum.

I was sincere in posting what I have quoted under this. It would have solved this whole fight and could have stimulated a few more bets across this forum.. raffles/sales get boring every once inawhile.. why not a bet or two here and there for excitement. Your response to the quote below was unnecessary and uncalled for and is what started off my slew of posts.

Sorry but did you say anything for me to respond to? I give it to you that the funds were sent before the picture was provided, that is fair. But like I said, the public address was not given to TMAN, it was given up for the escrow agent to send the escrowed funds to.
If OgNasty agreed to these terms i would hope that he signed a message from that address or a different address to show us that he is in control of the 0.2BTC that he would be putting up against TMAN's.

sig spammer? you just cant think rationally anymore can you? its all insults everywhere. i have no "sig" and never will. the only one upping their post count with useless nonsense is yourself calling me a cum wallet or gobble gobble. you are nothing but cancer to this board. people are scared to say anything because it might upset you. i however dont give a fuck who you are or what you do. ognasty can also be thrown into that category. ive read everything since the beginning and you jumped the gun and sent funds without having an agreement in place. hopefully your wife takes care of the finances around the house because holy shit you and your kids would be homeless.

one of his clients? i actually do not like the look of the nastyfans seats and thats why I dont own any. you continuously jump to conclusions and so far from what I've seen they have all been wrong. Enjoy your 4BTC+ Kialaras that are now selling for 1.XBTC.

im starting to think you really did need that 0.2BTC. times are getting tough in the TMAN household.

ah the things i want to say to you but im not willing to stoop to your level. its okay though, everybody on here can see how you act towards people that dont agree with anything that comes from you. you may even win the "community vote" because coin makers/possible traders will be scared to buy or sell anything to you as you will have their address and name in hand.

you dont even have to quote the comment. just tell me which # it is and ill go back and read it. in my opinion you paid OgNasty because you lost the bet. there was no other reason for you to send bitcoin to OgNasty other than that you agreed you lost the bet.

yes ive asked where the comment is that he would self-escrow this bet in the other thread. still waiting for you to show me.

what i did read though was that OgNasty said self-escrowing was not smart and that he would prefer using another escrow agent other than Zepher. This was also a misunderstanding by himself but it did show that he was against the use of a self-escrow. He goes on to call it a "very serious offense" on the collectibles board. but then you think he agrees to it?

this is all just so when TMAN loses he can say it was because the community decided and not that he was a complete idiot for sending bitcoin without using escrow when no terms were agreed upon.

yea im looking for where OgNasty bypassed the escrow agent and told you to send the 0.2BTC to him. Also where 0.2BTC was agreed upon.

you cant just send bitcoin to somebodys publicly known address ( he gave it so the escrow agent would know where to send the bitcoin ) and use it as proof that the other person in the bet has agreed to your terms.

every time i ask for proof you insult me. i dont care who OgNasty is or was, I believe i have used him for escrow once as the seller chose him to escrow our deal.
less insults more proof you clown.

as stated in the other thread. TMAN started a whole lot of drama with user Zeroxal over a very similar thing. Zeroxal had paid for Casascius Aluminum Coins that are still available on www.casascius.com , he questioned if Casascius himself may be missing or just not around checking the forum/website sales very often. This sent TMAN into a fury of which he canceled something like 6 or so Fully Gold Plated Xerola coins that he had reserved. There was more to the end of the story but I won't bring that up as I believe it was settled. Havent seen Zeroxal for awhile though.

Lauda I really am excited to hear your response. Dont forget to reply.
This will either make or break your Crypto Escrow Team (don't worry there are 3 other members on the team that I trust). If you can provide proof that I have missed something in this thread then I am very ready to admit I overlooked something. Currently though it looks as though you are casting shade on your team.

Lauda, as a member of the Crypto Escrow Team (CET) can you let me know which comments show either member, TMAN or OgNasty accepting terms without changing them in a further comment.
The "complete misunderstanding" of terms is why an escrow agent would be used and would be deemed by them nullification of said agreement. What further would happen that if two members, any members, decide to bypass yourself as an escrow agent and sent money to another person without having any agreement agreed upon.

OgNasty's wagers were 0.1BTC and 8BTC. You can't just go sending bitcoin to people's publicly known addresses and say it is acceptance of terms not yet accepted.

Waiting for another insult from TMAN.

my apologies for having an opinion that does not match yours. the amount of personal insults you throw out are disgusting. i have asked for proof of agreement of terms by both parties. i look at this sort of thing unbiased. i dont care who OgNasty is or ever was. I believe i used him for escrow once because the seller decided to pick him. minerjones is my preferred escrow agent. that shouldn't matter anyways, you and all your goonies have attacked me in the other thread and it is easy to see who is racking up votes for you in this popularity contest.

looks like a popularity contest to me.
can you point to which comment in the other thread where any term is agreed upon? im having trouble casting my vote and that is the last piece of information i need to do so.
Thanks!