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1021  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Easiest Platform To Learn on: December 12, 2016, 01:39:00 PM
I have interest on trading but since I know that any platform can really be risky without proper knowledge and guidance I prefer to shelved this interest for the time being.

I am interested to know from experienced traders here what can be the easiest to learn...whether it can be forex, binary, stocks, commodities or maybe even digital currencies?
There are something you must learn before doing trading stocks or digital currencies:
1. You must know and understanding about analysis technical for making prediction of price, many source about it you can find it on google or this section.
2. You must choose the markets (altcoins poloniex, bittrex and other).
3. You must use a little capital for first time or amount with be ready for lost.
4. Choose the time for entry and exit markets, don't be greedy and always be patient.
5. Always do cut lost if the price against you.
You must do practice, everything what are you learning about trading will be nothing without practice by your self.
1022  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Weird question, but please answer. Coin's to hold for 6 years. I'm going to jail on: December 12, 2016, 06:53:27 AM
Hello, community.

Today i lost my last chances for freedom. This is nearly 100% is tomorrow i will go to the jail for the next 6 years.

I have near $15000 and want to buy some coins. What do you think which one should i buy? I already bought eth and gnt.


You must buy bitcoins for some money and not all of them in altcoins, because of you have bought ETH and there is no wrong you buy ETC too, the reasons is ETC is original of ETH and ETH is hard fork coin, it is mean you still not buy real ethereum coin. And i am sure it will be survive for six years later. After you get out from the jail you become rich people.


I dont think etc or eth are good investments because the only on e strong coin that hasd survived for over 5 years is bitcoin thats why I agree with the guy who said buy all bitcoins and hold.
Well let me clear some point you :
On the my first wroting You must buy bitcoins for some money and not all of them in altcoins,
The second the OP has bought ETH and GNT I already bought eth and gnt.
And the last the OP said What do you think which one should i buy?
So i gave him my opinion about altcoins and ETC, but everything depend on the OP what will he doing and i just give my opinion because of the OP questions.
1023  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Weird question, but please answer. Coin's to hold for 6 years. I'm going to jail on: December 12, 2016, 05:54:57 AM
Hello, community.

Today i lost my last chances for freedom. This is nearly 100% is tomorrow i will go to the jail for the next 6 years.

I have near $15000 and want to buy some coins. What do you think which one should i buy? I already bought eth and gnt.


You must buy bitcoins for some money and not all of them in altcoins, because of you have bought ETH and there is no wrong you buy ETC too, the reasons is ETC is original of ETH and ETH is hard fork coin, it is mean you still not buy real ethereum coin. And i am sure it will be survive for six years later. After you get out from the jail you become rich people.
1024  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Official Quoine Exchange Thread on: December 12, 2016, 03:39:49 AM
Due to year-end holidays, some of our services will not be available between Dec 28, 2016 and Jan 3, 2017.

During the above period, please note that the following services will not be available:
 - Deposits and withdrawals of Fiat currencies
 - Customer support
Although you can submit BTC withdrawal requests until Dec 30, 2016, BTC withdrawals will not be processed between Dec 31, 2016 and Jan 3, 2017. However, BTC deposits will be available during above New Year holidays.

In addition, Dec 23, 2016 is national holiday in Japan and Fiat withdrawals will not be processed on this date. Our trading platform will continue to operate 24/7 as usual.


I have got that announcement from the email and i just want make sure about it.
Is it true? I don't see you making announcement about it on official quoine exchange thread. Thanks for answers
1025  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think bankers will destroy block chain tech, decentralization, bitcoin? on: December 11, 2016, 02:08:05 PM
If you haven't noticed already, the two coins below Bitcoin, Ethereum(ETH) , Ripple (XRP) have forged theier way into crypto with massive fundings from bank, backed by bankers, both Ethereum and Ripple have second and third market capitalization respectively after Bitcoin, Do you think the bankers who manipulated the global market and caused the global crash of 2008 which led to suicide of thousands of innocent people for making bankers profit, will bring down bitcoin, block chain tech and  decentralization?

1. How are you going to stop the bankers trying to dictator crypto?

2. Are you fully aware of things that are going on?

3. What measures are you taking now?



Best Regards
I don't think so because ETH and ripple are altcoins and about the blockchains of bitcoins, it can be controled by government or bankers and  for stop the bankers trying to dictator crypto (bitcoin) the segwit must be stoped and i am sure the miners won't support it.

Of course yes i am fully aware about the bankers trying control the blockchains of bitcoins, and i just take measure dissagree with segwit although i can not do anything for blockchains of bitcoins.
But i tried share what i knew about bitcoins and related it.
1026  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When did you begin using Bitcoin? on: December 06, 2016, 05:31:07 AM
Actually i have used bitcoins since 2014 on may, i knew about bitcoins from bitcoin.co.id,  but i made registered to bitcointalk on 2015, because i want get the informations and the ways to getting bitcoin's info is come from its forum.
1027  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH is sick again on: December 06, 2016, 05:17:22 AM
Ethereum thread into a world of unknwn when the team decided to hard fork, now so many issues after that move and it seems they are just doing try and error. The latest hard fork shows their is more issues with ethereum then we know.
Yeah that is because of the DAO hacking and the developers of ETH was thinking the money on DAO, so they have decided to first hard fork, in my opinion the developers of ETH is just looking for money and profit, they are not really building their coins and ethereum network.  Grin
1028  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BTC got sent back to Bitmixer.io... where will the money go to? on: December 06, 2016, 05:04:08 AM
Here is, where it began: https://blockchain.info/address/1KhZ3NQE8bzJD6tpCyCDLiQVX6QMLfm7RN?show_adv=true


Here is, where it ended: https://blockchain.info/de/address/1QELQVEDuEQM3trFwBh4jEJFFEVxLXwxMT?show_adv=true
Nothing going on after that.
The Auto-Message wrote, that within 24hrs the BTC will be back on the original address... they use their own mixing service.
Didn't happen... 24hrs later the money (in one big pool) is stuck there.
So how about your bitcoin? Is it come to your wallet or is it still stuck on there? I still don't understand about this service it is too complex and hard be used for me.
1029  Economy / Services / Re: [BetKing] Signature Campaign | Fixed rates | Full Member - Legendary (Open) on: December 06, 2016, 04:56:51 AM
Btctalk Username: Argwai96
Post count: 1302
Rank: Legendary
BTC address: 1NEcJ9tdvkCXvn8r5YCxuayZnsNUQPELjD
Signature not yet added. I'll change mine once I'm accepted.
You are late guy, this signature campaign is finish, it is statement from the owner.

Hi guys.
This will be the last round.
Last payment will be mae by Lutpin on Tuesday.

Thanks for taking part.


1030  Economy / Services / Re: BitDice Casino Signature Campaign [WILL START 1 DECEMBER] on: December 06, 2016, 04:42:02 AM
Username: 20kevin20
Rank: Full Member
Current number of posts: 1403
Bitcoin Address: 19ywvjZxYDu2CmiF3bXjhamM2oxu2kFcFP

I will update the avatar and signature as soon as I get the response. Thank you!
This signature campaign is full there are no free slot, but you can wait until 7dec at least it was manager said, maybe there are free slot for you. Good luck.
1031  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH is sick again on: December 06, 2016, 04:32:20 AM
I don't think ETH will be successed,it's just like a JOKE. Grin
No it is not joke but it is misery because of hard fork and impact on prices and eth pain worse.  Grin check it http://www.coindesk.com/ethereums-price-woes-continue-digital-currency-hits-9-month-low/
1032  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SteemFest and Upcoming Steem Hard Fork on: December 06, 2016, 03:57:53 AM
the killer app is ...

reddit/steemit + uncensorable unstoppable + $BD(what is the millennialz bank account?)

fuck the STEEM ... it is just like fiat ... ever inflating (only the dumb invest/hold) ... it is used to fuel the machine
see the forest thru the trees

this fork just re-enforces the scammy insider whales dominance ... the price crash is a GOOD THING!

Actually, the price has been RISING since the announcement of the changes...
Of course the price was rising and it has been pumped by developer and some bagholders, they won't their coins going down deeply and they won't losing their money. But let's wait until there are other updating and innovation from the developers and support from their investors and comunity, what will doing for next time.
1033  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where to Trade? on: December 06, 2016, 03:52:33 AM
there is many exchange for trade i also use bitfinix and localbitcoins for trade and i think these exchange are safe and secure and i never feel worried with these popular exchange and we know that there is some exchange who scamming people so i prefer that localbitcoins and bitfinix.
Yes you are right, usually new markets that there are no reviews from other users and more safe use old markets exchangers than taking risk trying new services although not all of new markets scaming their users.
1034  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin is the new era of currency? on: December 06, 2016, 03:23:54 AM
certainly, do you know with the increasing users of bitcoin , it could make bitcoin into new era of currency
Of course yes by the time bitcoins will become new currency but for today bitcoins is be considered as digital gold and need long time up to bitcoins become currency on every where, still many people who don't know about bitcoins and the technology behind it.
1035  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Do you agree if coinbase/exchangers give the data of costumers to IRS/government on: December 06, 2016, 03:13:16 AM
Most of you say don't care, if you don't like them don't use them. But think about users that earn a lot of bitcoin every month. Operator of mining farm for example. There is no way for him to get BTC exchanged to local currency since most of guys won't accept large amounts if the tries to trade P2P. A lof of users are forced to use exchanges (any of them) and it's expected that government is going to try to take control of that

...so?  If you live in the US you have to pay taxes.  It doesn't matter how you made the money, you pay taxes on it.  I don't see the problem.
Yes i agree with you every body must be love their countries with pay the taxes, but the problem is how if the users of coinbase are from other countries except USA. It will become problem because of they are not from USA and must be giving the data to IRS, should we be trust in IRS? I am doubt about it.

If you don't live in the US or make money in the US the IRS doesn't care about you.  So you have no reason to distrust (or for that matter trust) the IRS because they have no business with you.
Of course i have reasons to distrust to IRS, how about my indentity and other who has made registered on coinbase? It can be blamed by IRS and it is mean problem for coinbase's costumers the IRS has took human right related bitcoin for keeps be anonymous.
1036  Other / Archival / Re: [banned mixer] — the Fast, Secure and Reliable High Volume Bitcoin Mixer! on: December 06, 2016, 02:58:13 AM
Hello cryptomixer, do you have plan in the future for making application for user of smartphone Android and put it on play store or other? I think it is nice idea because of costumers can use cryptomixer's service on their phone.

Just open the homepage on a phone and copy paste the address into your wallet? I dont really see where you would need an app.
Yes i know and the website cryptomixer is support for android devices and i have used it too, but i just ask to them are they have plan using app in the future. Because today is era of smartphone, in my opinion will become more easy use cryptomixer's service on app, just it.

Yeah its common to make an app that is just a wrapper for the homepage. I think its very silly, but if it helps the business and they have dev time, by all means go for it.
Yup it is just my proposal, idea, question for [banned mixer] as costumer on this service, everything depend on them i can't do anything.
1037  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Developer of bitcoins core have planing hard fork, do you agree? on: December 06, 2016, 02:53:39 AM
I don't agree, a fork will most likely crash the markets, but if there's no other way... better now than later.
Still there are no solution about block size problem until right now and the activation of segwit still got problem from miners because they have made investment into hardware miners with large amount money, the developer must be looking for other ways.
1038  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: cooperation play altcoin market poloniex and bittrex on: December 06, 2016, 02:42:13 AM
I have some ideas on play altcoin market.

we select some coin in bittrex and poloniex the volume of transactions is still small, we move the market so as volume up and trigger other traders opted to buy.
after we buy coin when the volume is still small sell orders that do not put no weight on the support to buy because it was blocked quite a lot of sell orders.

after the transaction volume increased 10 fold we see the movement of the coin.
if we want to sell the coin that we have to buy in early at a cheap price, try selling coin if it was an instant only, because let us not interfere with the movement of the coin for a ride.
Well i am sorry i don't understand what are you talking about, do you mean it is arbitase? Looking for different price between markets or you will search the coins that has low volume of transaction, or you will do pump and dump the coins?. I think you have to use other ways to explaining about it.
not, I mean to arbitration but create a balance between the market price of coin poloniex and bittrex market, certainly can not be done without a major trader in it

Oh ok i have got it, yes you are right it is needs major traders and large of capital. It is bad idea in my opinion because we don't know which the coins are not scam coins except 5 big coins on https://coinmarketcap.com unfortunately will need very very much money if we choose them.
1039  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: December 05, 2016, 04:15:01 PM
Introducing the Grothendieck Team

IOHK is nearly finished with its vetting and onboarding process for our development team (Known as the Grothendieck team) we have committed to Ethereum Classic. Carlo will provide more details early next week about the team and we hope to get some of them on Let' Talk ETC after they've had a chance to review all relevant documentation to discuss the roadmap and development timeframe for 2017 for ETC.
In the meantime, we'd love to get to know more about how the community would like to interact with and get reports from the new ETC developers. Please post ideas and requests here. The Grothendieck team will be first building a Scala client for ETC based on our Scorex framework (see https://github.com/ScorexFoundation/Scorex).
Thanks everyone for your patience and we look forward to building great things together.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/5g7fq0/introducing_the_grothendieck_team/
I have made registered on ethereumclassictalk.org , but it was gone. Do you have plan to make forum for ETC's comunity? I think it will be nice because the comunity has website except use other website.
1040  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Overestimating Ethereum's potential, underestimating its risks. RIP ethereum. on: December 05, 2016, 03:28:41 PM
Ethereum would of course thrive but not as a rival to Bitcoin but as a creator of new features, this could in theory push its price up but the currency is at the mercy of being quite 'common' as there are no caps on amounts of ETH to be mined!

Ethereum is a great piece of innovation, and Ethereum as a innovative tool rather than a currency!

The currency aspect of Ethereum is only one of the many things it can do while the dev team is very effective I sense Ethereum is clouded by greed at the top of its ever present capstone.

So take in easy ethereum is just fluctuation of price.  Grin
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