You think that is very clever.  SegWit is the alt.  But since your beloved G.Max wants to own Bitcoin, you consider it 'Bitcoin' and move all the other topics to never-never land.  And then you pretend it is not censorship.  So clever.  Didn't fool anyone. 

SegWit is fucking garbage that does little at all to increase throughput.  It's only true reason for being is to get the network ready for the proprietary side chain bullshit called Lightning  Once you force SegWit on people pretending to address throughput, you'll be in a perfect position with a crippled Bitcoin having no ability to get beyond 5 tps, and your proprietary network to handle all the txs with a small fee going to core investors.  How could miners be so dumb to get sucked into this? 

Blockstream is the biggest scam that every happened.

Why does everyone just stand around doing nothing while nullc / Blockstream / GMax takes over Bitcoin?

Why not go ahead and fork it then and see how many people you can get to mine your SegWit Alt


Let's face it, SegWit is the alt.  BU is just one very small tweak to blocksize.  SegWit is a whole different coin/system and it is full of attack vectors and other bullshit to make Blockstream take over the blockchain and get fees outside of mining.

You a such a punk-assed pussy.  You are a BlockStreamCoin troll.  

None of the information I published is 'disinformation'.  Just because you don't agree with something - you call it disinformation.  Blockstream is gunning to take control via Lightning.  They are punk assed bitches just like you.  Saying it is a 'pure myth' doesn't make it a myth.  

"G Maxwell is a very smart guy" - you sounds like you can't wait to suck his dick again.  

'truly decentralized'? lolololololololol.  Bitcoin hasn't been decentralized since G.Max stood up and took control of those few timid Chinese miners via his lies and BS about scaling.  Blockstream has done everything imaginable to remove decentralization and take control to make their SegWitCoin come true.  

You are the shill my friend.  The only way you get your word out there is because the mods keep deleting posts like mine.  If you didn't have that advantage, you'd lose the argument 100:1.  

Blockstream can only win this battle via extreme censorship.

SegWit does not appreciably help with the scaling problem.  The only thing SegWit does is get the network ready to become the Blockstream Lightning Network where you have to pay a private company to use their 'sidechain channels'.   That is the only true purpose of SegWit.

SegWit is a conversion of Bitcoin to a privately owned crypto 'managed' by Blockstream.  Oh, and they are taking the name 'Bitcoin' to put on their system because they control commit access as Core developers.

Fuck those fucking fuckers.

So what, you also hold the identical coins on the valuable chain.  Awesome!!!

Who fucking cares about 'investors'.  We are trying to build something awesome here.  We are not trying to please speculators from China.  Fuck them.  Let get to work and build great things with no regard for stupid fucking speculation.

LOL - 'testnets'  The whole fucking thing is a test net.  Bitcoin is a test.  Let's do this for real.  On the 'real' net.

Previous declarants on this point were in fact in error.  However, now it is clear that Blockstream has killed Bitcoin and it is surely dead.  As soon as a few more people download SegWit, Bitcoin will be officially dead and the new alt 'BlockStream SegWit' will takeover.  Bitcoin is dead once SegWit starts to run.

By 'get along', I mean both exist at the same time together.  A fork is good.  Those who seek to prevent a fork are removing the most important tool of bitcoin - the ability to arrive at a concensus regarding a better system. 

two networks, two chains is precisely what I propose.  Let's do BU and SegWit at the same time.  Get 50% of mining working on each.  Then, let free markets pull miners to the 'other' chain in time as they make their bets on which will be most successful in the future.  All we really need is about 25% or more of mining power to go to the minority fork prong - and then BAM! the experiment is on.  May the best man win.  This is good for bitcoin - bad for BlockStream.

Yes.
SegWit is just another altcoin.  Only difference is the Blockstream parades around as 'Core' holding themselves to be something sacred. 

You guys are missing the most important aspect of Bitcoin.  The scaling debate is being done by people who don't understand Satoshi or Bitcoin. 

We don't have to settle which is the best path to take - either large blocks or small blocks.  In fact, deciding on either and leaving the other is FREAKING DANGEROUS!!!!

The way Bitcoin is supposed to work is we test both possibilities at the same time.  We run an BU experiment at the same time we run a SegWit experiment.  One will kick-ass, the other will fail.  We don't need to sit around for 18 months arguing about why one is bad and the other is good. Instead, we just run both systems and examine the result.

It's called a 'fork'.  A fork is not bad.  Forks are good, necessary and important.  Preventing a fork also prevents us from discovering what would happen on the other chain.  We need this valuable information. 

Not forking is stupid and dangerous.  Please fork now.  BitcoinA and BitcoinB.  Next year, we will have certainty as to which system is better.  We've been guessing why the 'other' chain is going to fail for years now.  We need to stop arguing about it and do the experiment.  Fork the chain now.  No more stupid control by GMaxwell/Blockstream.  This is precisely what Bitcoin was supposed to prevent. 

Not forking is bad.

Yeah, they are really like that man.  Those fuckers will spit in church.  That there is some nasty shit. 

They have to post signs otherwise you get Chinese people walking around spitting on the floors of the convention and restaurants and everywhere.  They just can't control themselves.  It's disgusting actually.  I don't think the sign really help too much.  Chinese are going to spit anyway.  Keeping them in China is the only way to stop it.

Just because you come from the oldest culture in the world, doesn't mean you can come spit on my carpet.  What if their old culture permitted them to fuck your wife?  Would you submit because their culture is older than yours?

Holy Fuck!!!


Chinese are so fucking filthy, they need to put up signs to tell them not to spit on the carpet!!!!  Are you kidding?  This is insane.  Can you imagine those dirty fuckers coming to America and spitting all over the place?  WTF?  Fucking Chinese.  

Those guys are filthy fucking pigs.

Well, transaction backlog is a big problem.  Max system throughput at 3 tx/sec is a joke.  We need about 5000/sec.  Fees are very high.  In the beginning, they talked about 'micropayments'  all those applications are dead because now bitcoin has a fee just about the same as Visa swipe fees: $.12. 

Blockstream/Core ruined Bitcoin. 

Well, I see the 'satoshi' as the smallest unitary element (the particle).  But I see the blockchain and technology as the supporting matrix within which these particles traverse, propagate and exist (the wave).  The closer we look at the satoshi, the more unimportant the wave properties.  The more we pay attention to the blockchain, the less important the notion of the fundamental unit becomes.  Satoshi is the quanta of the blockchain. 

Just because the price is up a few bucks lately, doesn't mean the Core devs have fixed anything.  Bitcoin is still broken.

Sometimes it appears to be a little of both and neither.

Changing a few lines of code to remove a temporary limit (1MB) is a tiny change to return to the original bitcoin. 

SegWit is a ridiculous AltCoin.  Segwit is a piece of garbage that barely improves transaction bandwidth and comes with a very high price of having to recode a bunch of stuff for all users/wallets/etc. 

How in the world did anyone every believe SegWit was a good thing? 

We need 8MB now.  Let's get back to the original bitcoin.

and not only that, but the forum gets completely full of shit and no real discussions about anything.  I hate the fucking signature campaign people posting infinitely about 'how to get women and porn to use bitcoin'.  Ridiculous.

All of the things Backpage uses to accomplish their deeds, including the schemes put in place to exchange money, have to do with it.  Bitcoin is used by Backpage, at least partly, because of its unique attributes to advance the crime of child sex trafficking.  Just like Silk Road which could not exist without a payment scheme that had these interesting aspects such as easy transmission on communications networks, BackPage exists at least to some extent because bitcoin permits the exchange of money on channels that cannot easily be closed.  Visa and MasterCard stopped their payment channels under pressure from some fucking cop.  But this can't be done with a network like bitcoin.  Therefore, it has a lot, a whole fucking bunch to do with bitcoin.