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10721  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud - Tulip Trust addresses signed message on: July 02, 2020, 06:31:28 PM
Who's behind Calvin Ayre?

reading the ACTUAL DOCUMENTS
there are a couple 'investment guys' names that pop up

what nutildah also does not realise is
1. CSW never invented bitcoin(but nutty thinks he might have(facepalm))
2. that CSW faked making it(but nutty is unsure(facepalm))
3. he scammed the ATO, he scammed calvin, he scammed 'the investment guys'
4. they all know he scammed them. but they are told if they play along they will get rich from the patent trolling and media story revenues in the future

heck even IRA knows he wont see an of the 410k because there is n actual 820k accessible by CSW. never was
IRA can only really feel like making any large income from joining CSW patent troll scam

but hey nutty thinks IRA was related to the real satoshi and ira will be getting paid from a supposed stash of 820k coin(facepalm)

very silly nutty has become.
the games have been clear for 4 years. but nutty is stuck with the maybe's and if's of speculation.
10722  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Your answer for defying the lockdowns and shutdowns, and make some money. on: July 02, 2020, 05:51:23 PM
oh no.. badeckers gone back to the full on FREEMAN cult scripts of the
'is it an order, or a request.. if an order ask them for money' (facepalm)

should have seen it coming. funny part is badecker has never made money himself he is just repeating a script he read elsewhere and by default think it works because be has faith in his cultish leaders

what badecker still doesnt realise is you will not make any money following these cultish scripts. you will instead be fined or arrested for different reasons.

this cultish game is not about making money its about getting people in trouble and arrested and taken to court as people facing a guilt charge of the crime.. not as someone wanting to get paid... just so that the trolls/influencers/cults can then say that society is broke because its not doing their view of the law. and so people should join their cult

no one is entitled to invoice the police/government when it comes to the law
people in this cult think its ok to drive a car at 120mph and then invoice the traffic cops if they are being told to drive only below the speed limit.

idiots must really be idiots if they think they can disobey laws and ask for payment for obiding by them.


think about electing a government like deciding which gym coach you want to train you and tell you what exercises you need to do. you elect them as your coach. and as a member of the gym you are taxed to cover the costs of the coaches and also the equipment and facilities you use. and yes the gym has rules. yes you can get some perks and some benefits from the gym. but there are rules and responsibilities that apply too
the gym does not have to pay you when you break the rules and wish for payment just to obey the rules.

so next time you go to the gym. and a gym coach tells you not to do something. try handing them an invoice because they ordered you to stop doing something.
see how stupid you look.

these cultish trolls want people to get into arguments with the cops. they want riots they want disorder. they want people to get sick they want people to get criminal records. all so they can cause a bit of drama. cause the government to step up their involvement. cause the idiots are rampaging the streets to trigger the government to inforce curfews and even tougher laws.. and then the cultish influencer idiots can say 'look i told you government wants to control us'..
reality is the influencers triggered the interventions.. not the government
10723  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud - Tulip Trust addresses signed message on: July 01, 2020, 03:36:24 PM
And regardless of whatever ignorant nonsense franky is conjecturing, the court doesn't have to rule that Craig is Satoshi or the Tulip Trust exists in order for Ira Kleiman to be entitled to half of whatever it is the court finds was developed during their partnership. We all know its likely nothing, and half of nothing is still nothing, but we'll need to wait for the court to catch on to this.

yep i called it. certain idiots actually think CSW&dave actually developed and actually mined in 2009-2010
(facepalm)

now thats what i call ignorant conjecture

yet reality is clear the CSW game of the last 4 years is very publicly known and been played many times. no conjecture. its clear.
i seriously cant believe people actually think CSW&dave actually had some involvement of developing bitcoin.
no wonder he cant understand whats actually been said
10724  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud - Tulip Trust addresses signed message on: July 01, 2020, 10:27:29 AM
Learn English.  I'm not saying what you're suggesting is impossible.  It MIGHT turn out to be true.  But there's still a large gulf between MIGHT and REALITY.  You have a really annoying habit of jumping to conclusions.  It makes you look unhinged.  It's why no one takes you seriously.  Stop.

This is clearly a "wait and see" situation, so stop treating it like a foregone conclusion.


and the funny galaxy wide gap that you keep skipping is
the community know its not about money because we all know CSW doesnt have any.

HE DOES NOT HAVE A STASH OF COINS
so while your small minded group think its about ira trying to get 410k
the rest of us smarter people know that there is no 410k coins that ira can/will get

the game at hand is about the intellectual property and the title of being declared bitcoins creator
that is the reality

That is the while scenario that has in this reality been playing out for the last 4 years.
its all about trying to get a judgement that CSW was part of bitcoins creation.
so that he can patent troll the community.

but hey. if you really think that somewhere somehow CSW has got 820k and thats what ira is fighting a share of.. well sucks to be you

the rest of the community figured out that he was a scammer and not the creator and not having any 2009-10 stash within hours of his claims.

are you really that stuck in 2015-16 promo material?? (no need for an answer. your opinions over the last 4 years have shown you still think bitcoin is the same as it was in 2015 and that CSW claimed to be part of the bitcoin creation and you are yet to "wait and see" for the proof and the spending of the coins by the partnership(facepalm))

meanwhile the rest of the community are concentrating on the ramifications of getting judgement in BOTH ira and CSW favour. and then using that judgement to legalise it at the patent/trademark offices. and then go on a patent troll war with all devs and software companies

but you will just think its about ira getting 410k coins(facepalm)

foregone conclusion: no if's no buts no maybes
CSW/dave never mined 'the satoshi stash'
CSW/dave never created bitcoin
ira knows CSW never did. the world outside the courtroom knows

inside the courtroom yea everyone wants to get paid something somewhere
the only way IRA gets paid.
1. as a thankyou bribe from CSW for playing his game
2. for validating the partnership and they both patent troll the community and share the settlements

when both CSW side is saying he was part of bitcoin creation. and ira side is saying CSW was part of the bitcoin creation. but maybe his brother was too
its not a fight over is CSW the bitcoin creator.
its a fight over how much involvement dave had.

IRA has not ever argued or claimed that CSW had no involvement. so that is not one of the claims/charges against CSW

so the two options are:
1. partnership validated by default
2. case dismissed due to lack of evidence CSW was even bitcoins creator
the is no third option where ira changes charges to be that CSW never was/had any assets to share


again IRA is not even proceeding down the path that lack of evidence is proof of no involvement
and again ira is not proceeding down the path that CSW scammed the whole thing. and seeks damages from wasting ira's time of hanging an empty carrot of 410k infront his nose

yes i can see the psychology and hope and if and but and speculation that some small minded people think ira will change paths and just ask for damages for time wasting with the empty carrot on a stick games

but its obvious that ira gets more 'value' by becoming part of a patent troll scheme of being co-owner of bitcoins IP.. or being given a golden handshake for helping to legalise the bitcoin IP into CSW ownership
10725  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: HONEYWELL Quantum Computer: what does it mean to BTC on: July 01, 2020, 09:01:31 AM
lol
thats funny
once you realise the stuff of the pico level and then go back to the macro level/micro level you realise whats described in the 'duality' is not accurate. its been simplified into macro-micro observational words

lets just try using 'particle' as compressed wave causing resistance.
and lightwave as uncompressed wave free to flow

the duality experiment you showed is where when light waves are projected through a wall with 2 slits. the light waves before the wall are hundreds of light waves beaming out each at different degrees of 360o from the light source
technically millions of waves each at different 360,000micro degrees...
technically billions of waves each at different 360,000,000nano degrees
technically trillions of waves each at different 360,000,000,000pic degree's
depending on the level/how accurately your able to observe/measure then smaller bits in between

but lets stick with macro (normal human eye 360 level observation)
and when going through the slits 2 beams carry on straight. and the rest dont get through due to the wall

but the waves just a couple micro/nano/pico degree's +/- hit the wall(particle of compressed waves) and the interference resists the light wave and bounces(reflects) the light wave in the opposite direction  than its input angle

so instead of seeing just 2 beams f light going straight through the slot. you see it spread out in multiple angles. because of the effect/interference from the wall edges

but now we are just diverting far off the QC topic.

the while theory is that at macro level of just 360o light your observation would be that only 2 beams of light get through and they continue on in a straight line from source through the slit to the there side.
where as at micro 360,000o there would be some reflection off the edges of the slits

..
at pico level its explaining that the waves of the wall interfere and resist the waves of light
at macro level its saying that 'light bends' and is not acting light a wave in one direction but like a solid coil/spring that can be bent around corners

..
its just explaining at human eye level
'oh my god its magic, light can bend'
vs science
'its about the reflection of light due to the interference from the slits in the wall' and also the interference of the other waves of light

heck even the article you link explains the experiment is about the defraction due to the interference from the grating

what will be mind blowing is when you get to the pico level understanding of everything is a wave or more precisely zillions of waves.
and the makeup/mix and their interference/resistance strengths on each other determine what property it has at the micro/macro scale

and 'splitting an atom' is not a macro illusion of cutting apple in half. but instead resisting the electro/radio/light wavelenths away to get to the gamma waves protected within those other lower wavelength 'shells'(layers)

we could them move into the more detailed positive gamma and negative gamma. but i think we have gone way passed the QC topic
10726  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: HONEYWELL Quantum Computer: what does it mean to BTC on: July 01, 2020, 07:15:00 AM
hey

i could also beat my chest of how the illusion of a particle at micro-nano level is a physical hard surface piece of dust
i could also beat my chest of how in reality but only visible at the pico level a particle is actually all just waves. creating resistance depending on how compressed they are

imagine zooming it up from the pico level to the macro level to see a particle is like a gas or water.. so lets go with the oceans water. .. its all just flowing interfering with each other and making waves and currents
where when the 'tide' is high at one side of the planet. the 'tide' is low in another side of the planet
its not that one small particle of water on one side of the planet is also on the other side.
its that the fluid motion of one affects the other
that stuff is just simple science now adays

heck they call it 'spooky science' of a high tide at one side is spooky to be a low tide on the other side 'at the same time'
but its not. its just the limitation of accuracy of measuring the wave at the speed of light..
once you realise speed can be faster but not measurable in the gamma range. it starts to make sense
its just too fast to see it happen so call it 'magic' (slight of hand)


anyway back to 'particals'/'electron dots' and free electrons vs electron shells
if you compress the water. and not give them much room to move, the energy of the waves creates resistance and so many waves in such a small area gives the feeling that it is solid because the resistance prevents another wave from passing through it and instead bouncing off it. thus the 'feeling' of solidity

its like making a ice cube by compressing water but even the ice is still waves(at the pico level). just moving slower and less distance and more of them in a confined area to resist other things passing through

so a ice cup can the hold water without the water just flowing through it/mixing with it.
all based on how free the waves get to move and how much space there is to spread or confined within


i understand there are waves all around us and they are all at different wave lengths and amplitudes which make the difference from sound radio electromagnetic light and radiation
i understand all thats stuff.
(heck i was playing with radio frequency crystal diodes in the 90's (CB/ham radio era)) just for fun

anyway if we go with the ice cup holding water image we can go into the whole interferance of the less compressed waves of the water interfering with the compressed waves of the cup. melting the cup.
or the interference of the compressed waves of the cup interfering with the water to slowdown and freeze the water waves. we can go into the details of how light and sound waves can affect the water and the ice.
where say light waves can melt the ice and cause leakage of the water

where by even if you poured in water at 10oc into the icecup. the ice cup would actually reduce the temperature of the water. so when measured. you'd expect 10oc but actually get a lower number due to the cup interference.
or if you used a certain thermometer that was warm. it would heat the water a bit. again affecting the result

it does not mean that the water is actually both at 9oc and 11oc its that you should before measuring it, by doing some theory math. that the water might be between 9-11 but you just dont know until you measure it
but to remember that the measuring device might affect the result too

but all that chest thumping at the pico level that everything is a wave of energy.. just over complexes the 'electron' charge and orbit of the nano scale of QC
10727  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: HONEYWELL Quantum Computer: what does it mean to BTC on: June 30, 2020, 07:53:17 PM
ill let you continue to play around with the science lab theory experiments that backdate 100 years
and make things sound over complex about the 'spooky'

meanwhile ill continue on about the practical uses that are actually happening right now
oh and slight spoiler. there is no dead cat in a box

but yea 4 gates measured by the difference of a charge of 1 electron, 5 electrons, 13 electrons, 25 electrons and double checked by a separate electron and measuring a feature abut that

not all QC computer companies follow the same 'lets measure the spin of another electron too'
not all QC computers companies follow the same 1 5,13,25 gaps to avoid interference.
not all QC companies follow the same 31 electron per dot
heck some are avoiding electrons altogether and instead just using photons

but one thing for sure is the 4 gate instead of 2 gate is pretty much a default standard protocol for all companies for atleast the next few years

but i hope this topic has clarified things in normal english.. without jumping back into the realm the mythical buzzwords of the unexplained 'spooky'
because i know a few people like to just use the buzzwords to sound like they know. but not really able to describe it outside the theory. or unable to describe a practical use, thus obviously cant really know what it really means
10728  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud - Tulip Trust addresses signed message on: June 30, 2020, 07:13:15 PM
reality THEORY is
1. make a case about coins and IP
2. argue about evidence of coins and IP
3a. get judge to default in favour there is coins & IP
3b. officiate the IP with patent & trademark office to legalise the partnership
3c. patent troll any dev or any user they can
3d. ruin the community by every means possible

You literally cannot prove that your theory is true.  You are GUESSING that's what the case is about.  All you have are stories of intrigue and no evidence.

The irony that you're commenting on a court case, where things like evidence are actually rather important, is clearly lost on you.

1,2,3a are whats shown in case documents .. heck its in the screen shot your ignorantly cant read. refuse to read.. but its right there

3b 3c 3d are all known things that CSW wants to do once he has a legal proof a patent office and trademark office would accept(his game plane since 2016)

but seems your certain group of friends unable to have a thought outside of your buddy group, fail to even grasp the obvious

weirdest thing is you seem to care more about kissing your buddies ass than you do about bitcoin. yet again

funniest part is how juan is thinking that CSW will get punished after 3a.
thats a win for CSW..

ira is asking for exactly what CSW wants
10729  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud - Tulip Trust addresses signed message on: June 30, 2020, 04:24:40 PM
and while certain people keep circling the endless squabble over 'its about the money'

the point is
this case is if a judge makes an order that dave&CSW were the creators
that piece of paper would get taken straight to the patent office and the trademark office and establish CSW as the bitcoin creator
then the patent troll cases will ensue

while certain people on other pages will start saying
'yea but um but um maybe IRA can then go to court to then um maybe um ask for payment'

the game is already over
dave and CSW already achieved their goal

we all know IRA doesnt actually have a legal claim of 50% of coins. because we know CSW never had them.
HE IS NOT NOR EVER WAS SATOSHI

so trying to make it about IRA needs to win to then get paid.. is foolish drama
to hand CSW legal judgement that he created bitcoin.. is not a win for the community.
nor is it actual punishment for CSW

certain people in this tpic are trying to promote the agenda as
1. make a case about coins and IP
2. argue about evidence of coins and IP
3. get judge to default in favour there is coins & IP
4. ira then punishes CSW for not paying coins

..
reality is
1. make a case about coins and IP
2. argue about evidence of coins and IP
3a. get judge to default in favour there is coins & IP
3b. ofiiciate the IP with patent & trademark office to legalise the partnership
3c. patent troll any dev or any user they can
3d. ruin the community by every means possible

i know certain people are iffing and butting and could be and maybe the point 4.. but concentrate on point 3abcd

if all you want is to promote point 4.. ill give you a spoiler ira will never get 410k coin never. impossible
anything in 4 and beyond is just speculation and fantasy.

what the community need to be aware of is points 3b 3c 3d
as thats the more true ending to the story if 3a occurs
10730  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: June 30, 2020, 03:37:56 PM
alot of people have been talking about how sweden has been a success
yet during the May 'oh lok at sweden they can play golf' cases were under 900 a day
first week of june over 1k
last week over 1.5k

swedens case are on the rise.. not falling

if people think that its all over and business as usual. sorry your in for a shock.
cases will rise and restrictions will have to be tightened

they just hope that they can slow the rise long enough to get a good amount of economy flowing for 4-8 months on small relaxations... instead of just 2-3 months on full release/no restriction

its all about trying to get the money circulating back into government treasury.
because the government treasury know if no one spends this year. then no one pays tax when the financial year ends next year. so next year will hurt them.

so they are letting a few more people get sick and ok to let hospitals fill up a bit more. as long as the money flows.
but when numbers get to near the high 90's% of hospital capacity within 2 week estimate. they will have to tighten restrictions again

..
oh and as for government blame.
yea they want to blame the next lockdown on the upcoming autumn/winter weather.
but do expect another tightening of restrictions
10731  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: HONEYWELL Quantum Computer: what does it mean to BTC on: June 30, 2020, 03:20:16 PM
'uncertainty' 'probability'
is about accuracy to measure it

its not about it being multiple things at one time
Quantum physics is all about probability density. An electron in a quantum system is not in a definite single position, or even in definite multiple positions, instead it is best defined as a smear of probabilities across a range of positions.

no no no
using your own link of the hydrogen image.
that is not an image of an actual electron being in multiple places..
its a mathematical graph is possible places an electron could be

EG if i said i was on a street in washington
showing a map of washington of all the possible streets im on does not mean im then on all streets, it just shows te probability that im going to be on those streets and not streets of say new york
so on a map of USA washington would be lit up like a christmas tree of white light of all the streets lit up. and then dark map for the rest of america.

what its also saying about the uncertainty is that the microscopic light of the measuring device interferes with a electrons fixed position before the measure and can move it slightly.

again
imagine a volt meter
there is a charge of 0.5v but the volt meter to take a measure requires 0.01v to do is job so a volt meter should read 0.49v to be accurate of how many volts it receives.. but they know the volt meter itself has caused the 0.01 discrepency so they call it 5v.

the image of the HYDOGEN DENSITY PLOTS
is jsut a pre-prepared map of posiblilities.
its not showing actual positions of where an electron is at a single point in time
its showing a map of all the possible roads a electron can move on.. but without knowing all the factors they cant tell where in that map it at any even second
did you even read the wiki
its about difference between classical macro accuracy vs micro accuracy

the myth is that an eelectron is in muliple places at any single time
the reality is that an electron is in a single place at any time. but interference from many things can move it/vary it depending on time and whats interfereing

EG
light from a microscope can charge the particle and shift the electrons a bit. so what your seeing when looking at it is not the position it was before seeing it.

its not that the light freezes it in place in this universe.. where without the light its zippig around different universes.
its that the light can shift it from a previous position. to a new position because of the charge of the light

ok how to word it in a more illustrative way
if you are standing on mainstreet. .. you are not also standing on jersey shore. nor also standing on wimbledon common. you not in some special super position

but under classical mapping all someone knows is your in a city.
now if you send spot of spotters in to look around the city for you. suddenly you will see the energy of a crowd running towards you and if the crowd is charging at you fast enough you will try to run down another street.

atleast try to read the wiki you even linked
here ill save you time

Quote
Wavefunctions of the electron in a hydrogen atom at different energy levels. Quantum mechanics cannot predict the exact location of a particle in space, only the probability of finding it at different locations.[1] The brighter areas represent a higher probability of finding the electron.

its the same as cell phone triangulations. they cannot predict where you will be.. but they can plot/triangulate the area your most likely to be based on the limited info they have got. but then when they do ping your phone to locate you. then they know where you are.

it does not mean your phone is in 100,000 locations in a 10m2 grid between cell towers

..
once they can get more accurate at measuring the things that interfere with the radio waves of cell hone towers. they can then before more accurate as measuring small distances. like locate you within a 2m range instead of a 20 metre range

as for the 'spin' and the 4 gates
now your being a little pedantic.
right now most companies are only trying to handle 4gates.
because accuracy at such a small level is only good for 4 gates reliably..
but yea in the future once they can calculate more intereferences to be more precise then yea maybe they can open up to 8 gates.
but right now its 2gate(binary) 4gate(QC)
.
as for the 'spin' different companies measure different things in different ways.
some measure just charge. some measure just light waves . some measure a combination of both

its like binary
you can measure the wattage to a bulb off or on gives you an answer
you can measure the visual of a bulb. off or on gives you an answer
you can measure both to get a second opinion/double checked answer

or you can measure something else that has 2 options like a electric motor connected to a toilet seat. up is on down is off.

the whole spin thing is not some magic voodoo of an object jumping in and out of different universes at the same time
its that if they charge 4 electrons. they can test those 4 electrons. and then have a separate control electron which should follow a certain magnetic bath based on the effect that the 4 electrons. thus use the spin control electron as the double check/validator

the problem still arises that i they have not accounted or all interfences that spin can be off a little.
which is why they have to keep the dot cold, sound and vibration proof and away from other EM emitting devices. 
have a nice day. its been fun
10732  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: HONEYWELL Quantum Computer: what does it mean to BTC on: June 30, 2020, 12:13:44 PM
'uncertainty' 'probability'
is about accuracy to measure it

its not about it being multiple things at one time
its about a 5v charge is not actually 5v. its
1millisecond 4.98 another millisecond 4.99 another milisecond5.00 another millisecond5.01 and so on
meaning in a time stream of 10 milliseconds it can vary from 4.98 to 5.02
and a measuring instrument just calls it 5.00v as a average/or due to limitations of accuracy

its not and never has nor ever will be about that in any specific second it being both 5.02 and 4.98 at the same time

but hey. you want to stick with the myths of just throwing the buzzwords around
meanwhile ill keep explaining them in plainer non science common wording.

oh and one last funny, you say its
'one valence electron' .. but then quote these words
very distinct peaks appear at transitions 4 → 5, 12 → 13 and 24 → 25. To understand the significance of these electron numbers
anyway it has been fun
but for other readers its
accuracy is distinctly measurable at 4<>5 electrons..  12<>13 electrons and 24<>25 electrons

and ofcourse 0 is not absolute zero due to many factors like interfence so 0 is the 0<>1

but atleast we have finally jumped over the previous topic elsewhere and you finally recognising the 4 gate
base 4 maths.. instead of the 2 gate base 2 math of binary
yea quantum is base 4.. and if just translated to base 2. the translator would be the thing that decides what to round up or down to.

its never been about multiple positions at the same time its about instrument measuring limitations and the accuracy of rounding things off
10733  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: June 30, 2020, 11:57:21 AM
what i found very interesting lately is the change of attitudes of blame for the virus
(well government mostly always blamed someone else. but now they changing who should be blamed)

we all know that while china closed its flights down. UK/US/Europe stil kept their flights open and grabbed people in 'repatriation flights' thus the onus of bringing it into other countries is on the countries that done their repatriation flights. yet governments dont want to take responsibility for their actions
..
it would have been cheaper to just give the 'patriots' upto $1m each to stay in china and just wait it out.

however, the government did try to take responsibilty for the care of citizens and the healthcare systems first and let economy come later.. by doing the lockdown to curb the spread.
lockdown obviously curbed the spike by preventing the spread by not allowing people to mingle.
but that is ofcourse just temporary

now governments are switching from care to cash mindset
they want to open up border, allow flights without any quarantine policy. (health risk but economic benefit). and suddenly now governments want to remove their responsibility of caring for peoples health and make it peoples responsibility to not get sick.
EG saying its ok to get on a plane in a sealed cylinder of hundreds of people inhaling the same circulated air.
but then make it the peoples responsibility to not mingle. thus if they get on a plane. its their fault
all while telling them they need to start mingling 'for economic reasons'

i understand that people should take responsibility for their actions. i understand many aspects of this.
but whats now happening is that if you get sick and then pass that sickness to someone else. its becoming a factor that you will be blamed for that other persons sickness.
no requests for planes to retrofit new filters/fresh oxygen supply. just get people onboard and blame them for getting onboard
we have already started seeing it happen. when people just cough in the direction of a police officer or retail store worker. that simple cough is treated as a crime.
cough directly in the direction of a air stewardess and expect action at the gate when the plane lands

vacation insurance policies are now going to not cover symptoms of covid because they treat it as self inflicted and not their responsibility.
this is more about not allowing people the clause to allow for cancelling thier flights. thus kind of forcing them to take the trip and get their value spent.. or lose economically while the flight company keeps funds

seems all of a sudden the caring, responsible government wants to go back to BUSINESS as usual where they no longer care about peoples suffering, economics..
all they want is for the money to come rolling in. for the benefit of the treasuries economics

seems no lessons have been learned over the last 4 months. and its just the same old government as we seen pre-covid
10734  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Lunatic Leftists now claim MILK is racist simply because it’s white on: June 30, 2020, 03:26:57 AM
there is some science to it too

world wide average adults dont effectively produce the enzyme lactase that breaks down lactose into useful nutriants the body can use.
however europeans in the colder less sunny climates retain the gene that allows the production of lactase, which allows for digesting and tolerating lactose

yes its about the requirement of vitamin D which white people dont absorb well from sun. so their body adapts to absorb it from milk

however asian, africans the get vitamin D better through sun light, so never really had this gene to produce lactase.. so as adults more chances of being lactose intolerant.
(they simply didnt need milk as adults)

and yes extremists right or left black or white will grab onto anything that favours a side and exaggerate it into something to argue about
this leads to 'say milk is for europeans and not africans. because africans are genetically disposition to not tolerate milk as much as white europeans'
10735  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: June 30, 2020, 02:51:56 AM
How ridiculous. Now they are finding out that if they don't do the Covid swab tests, at just the right time, the tests will show people to be negative even though they have symptoms. Does the medical really even know what they are talking about?
Being tested for coronavirus too early may lead to false positives, warn researchers


its actually false negatives not false positives...

this is not new. infact it was mentioned to you ages ago and has been public policy for months.

its called the incubation period.
if you came into contact with someone..
its useless to do the test the following hour. because the virus has not really taken up home in your system to be measurable
after about 2-3 days its then possible to get a good indicator.
but the best indicator is those showing symptoms because they are really riddled with the stuff in thier system

this is why even in feb-march UK was happily and publicly telling people to only go for a test if they have symptoms
for three reasons
at the point of symptoms then the virus has incubated enough
whether having the test or not would not have stopped the virus.. the test is not treatment
(having a test 2 days earlier would not have cured it to avoid symptoms)
if someone is sick and worried if its covid or another cause for symptoms. knowing for sure whats the cause is helpful to the person and doctors later to know how serious to react to it

..
but again.
taking a test at day 1or 2 or 3 or 4 does not change if the person has it or not. does not cure it or not. it just helps to inform those involved whats causing their symptoms
10736  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: HONEYWELL Quantum Computer: what does it mean to BTC on: June 29, 2020, 09:41:56 PM
to simplify cnuts reference and explanation
because they are trying to measure the amount of electrons at the near atomic level where they need to measure 4 gates (options) as 1e 5e 13e 25e

this small size, the amount of electrons and proximity can all cause confusion from one thing to the next
heck even outside interference, the charge itself can move the electrons they are trying to measure

or for ELI-5 (exaggerating the numbers to bigger understandable numbers) a particle that can handle a measure of upto0.31v and able to measure
0.01v as g0
0.05v as g1
0.13v as g2
0.25v as g3

with many many reasons to have this gap and many reasons to not have the gaps of equal amount
EG not equal 0 8 16 24 but 1 5 13 25

because interference would make things never an absolute 0v.. so hence 0.01v (1electron)

and as more electrons(ELI-5 volts) are included the more interference is caused
so the 'measures' are spaced at gaps of 4 8 12 separations
because a interference of 1 electron might confuse the measuring instrument that a 1electron is actually 50% more(2electron) or a interference of 5electrons might make it measure as 50% less(3electron) so only measuring if something rounds to 1 or rounds to 5 means less confusing readings due to interference
...
if they measures at 1 2 3 4 electron increments as i just explained a 1electron could be mis measured as 2
and a 5 electron might be mis measured as a 3 or 4

so they are trying to keep a good enough gap to allow for interference to be rounded out to the nearest measure unit they want

they also are trying to keep the number of electrons total requirement per particle low at 31
because more then 31 means the distance between one particle(dot) to the next would need to increase to ensure the 31 electrons does not cause a next particle set to 1 actually showing 5 due to a 25% interference factor of its previous particle(dot)
imagine it if a particle was charged at 31 the interference may cause something to close to read as 15 or something a little apart read as 5 or further apart read as 1 meaning.. if they had measures of 100 then the distance would need to be even further.
 
thus less dots per inch, thus less particles per chip. thus less operations per chip

also more electrons clustered together can generate heat and other charge things which is not just about interference. but about heat of the device

but i assure you of one thing
unlike cnut who is still poking around the realm of 'spooky magic' myths of king arthurs stories(einstein)
its not about electrons being in many places at once. its simply about having a most accurate method of measuring something accounting for interference variation
i assure you that electrons are not both 1 and 5 and 13 and 25 at the same time
just interference could make a charge of 5 appear as a 3 or a 8 due to the interference affecting the charge

which if the measuring device wanted to just measure 4567 then a charge of 5 would fluctuate between all of the indicators due to interference
..
the whole thing about a item can be many things until its measured. is not voodo magic
its that a charge of constant 0.05v due to interfence might be 1second 0.04v and another 0.06v
heck even the measuring instrument might add or take away a bit of charge

its not about magical 0.05 is also 0.10 . but that the measuring instrument may not be accurate or the interference make offset the 0.05 to at one time be 0.04 or the next second 0.06 because it varies doue to outside interference and accuracy of the measuring device
10737  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud - Tulip Trust addresses signed message on: June 29, 2020, 08:38:20 PM
I thought that we were starting to make progress, and now you proclaim this nonsense?

Maybe you need to outline your logic a bit better?  How do you get from a court case in which Ira is attempting to get CSW to pay him damage to be able to have the power to rule that CSW has ownership over the coins that he says that he does?

your going backwards and still making it about the coins..
idiot... absolutely trolling idiot you are
its about the bitcoins intellectual property.. as thats always been CSW game
the game of being bitcoins creator

anyway.
your idiotic ignorance has just gone one ignorant step too far.
so ill just post the image link of it showing exactly what ira's request is...


you have lost the debate with your ignorant distractions


idiot below is just trolling now..
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10738  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud - Tulip Trust addresses signed message on: June 29, 2020, 04:33:16 PM
How do you believe that you get from point A to point B in the US judicial process?  

You don't just say I want 410k coins from CSW and get it without both having to prove that you have a valid claim to those coins while providing the other side the opportunity to contest your claim... which is exactly what is happening here.  

There is no materially important or legally significant difference to see, as you seem to be continuing to argue such nonsense that they are trying prove something outside of the normal claim for damages or that even if Ira were to obtain a favorable ruling in this case that includes the judge saying that CSW owning the coins that CSW is satoshi, those rulings would NOT end up applying in some other context..

CSW would have to prove his ownership again in another case or that he is satoshi again in some other case, if those issues were to come up in some other context...  Of course, scammers don't give any shit if their claims are valid or not, they use legally insufficient information to make claims, such as copywriting the white paper.. remember that legally insignificant nonsense that CSW was playing for a period of time last year?

agin your distraction about the coins. makes you ignorant of a court judgement that would give CSW ownership right of bitcoin

again you keep on about the if's and maybe's of later possible cases if IRA wants to get paid.
but IRA right now here today this week. in reality. is asking the court to decide on who owns bitcoin

all your other waffle and distractive trolling talking about funds is very ignorant.

i am not saying they are trying to prove something out side the norma claim for damages
many many many many many many posts now i have said exactly what ira is trying to claim
i even screenshotted his own request.

your the one thats iffing and could be and maybe all about financial damage claims
your weirdly obsessed about ira getting 410k coin
its not even about 410k coin

its about CSW game of getting legally judged ownership of bitcoins IP
10739  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud - Tulip Trust addresses signed message on: June 29, 2020, 11:47:05 AM
Just think about what you would do in Ira's situation. If my brother died and sombody claims he had half of 1 million Bitcoins, I would certainly go to court and try to claim ownership of that money. Even if it looks like the money doesn't exist and the guy who is probably controlling these Bitcoins is a pathological liar. If the court rules that somebody owns me 500000 Bitcoins, it doesn't matter if he actually has the money to pay me right now.

i understand that psychology
but ira isnt even asking for CSW to pay 410k coins(50% of 820k)
ira is trying to get a judge to rule that there was a partnership, without proof.. end of
the old game of 'lack of proof infers proof' game CSW has been playing for 4 years

it would be different if iras team were asking for 50% of the assets to be handed to daves estate
it would be different if iras team were asking for 410k coins
it would be different if ira's team were asking CSW to buy out 50%
it would be different if ira's team were asking for compensation

but none of these apply
the only request being made is to get a judgement that CSW&dave partnership owns bitcoin and IP and all other things involved

.. see the difference
10740  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it worth hosting a lightning node? on: June 29, 2020, 08:28:43 AM
wind fury continues to advertise LN.. yet also advertises his lack of first hand experience using it. or knowing its flaws or the bugs or its methods to manipulate things

if people put coins in. those other channels and routes around that person can actually manipulate the user to get him to lose his value. not have funds on their side to use themselves. or just be froze out of being a route

maybe it would have been best to spend your time actually learning about LN instead of just repeating the old promotional material handed to you by others. its getting too obvious now

...

anyway
without any bugs, flaws, its easy to abuse a LN user
find one with say X units of measure
ask the crowd of HYIP/pyramid scammers to join that user and send you X coins
then ask them to recruit their own dummies to join and send coins to them

you<0:X>user<X:X>scammerA
becomes
you<X:0>user<XX:0>scammerA

you leave with X extra and let the pyramid scammers play

scammerB<X:X>user<XX:0>scammerA
scammerC<X:X>/
becomes
scammerB<0:XX>user<:XX>scammerA
scammerC<0:XX>/
scammerA leaves with XX

'users' has to continually add more funds to open more channels
while people are exiting with more funds then they started with

..
and thats just one way to:
profit from LN
freeze out 'user' from doing any transactions for himself..
freeze out 'user' from being a route for other ethical users..
make him give up because he cant just keep funding new channels

yes in the end one scammer wont get returns. but the initial scammers did. and while it was lasting the user was losing funds and getting frustrated that he was getting abused by others.

again. no bugs. no flaws. no hacks.. just using LN features as intended

(there are many other ways to abuse LN and gain funds. but i just shown the weakest one that anyone with common sense could have figured out themselves. so no harm mentioning this one)
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