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10901  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-09-19] China May Try to Block All Bitcoin Transactions in the Country on: September 20, 2017, 04:51:16 AM
A would be surprise if they wouldn't. They have started this war so I don't know if they are just stopping now. For me, they will totally ban bitcoin in their country and the next target will be the miners. Being a citizen of China and bitcoin lovers don't look very good as of now. Just so sad the sudden turn of events, from one of the haven to anti-bitcoin. I can only understand that they really think that bitcoin is a risk for the country, financially. Well, its time to move ahead and forgot them because the ecosystem will survived without China to back us up.
10902  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: FunFair jump 10x in 15 minutes and goes back to the same price on: September 20, 2017, 02:39:03 AM
FunFair jumped almost 10x and fell back to the same price in a 30 minutes interval on the 4th of July 2017. Do anyone know why and how these huge jumps can happen in such a short amount of time?

Its called Pump and Dump, usually a group will choose with coins to pump, in this case its Funfair. So there will be a lot of buy orders and those who are suck into buying will be trap once the group decided its time to dump this coin and take home the profits. You need to be careful and as much as possible stay away from this group because like I told you, if you are swayed into buying this coins then suddenly they dump it, you will take a lot of lose, while those guys are laughing because they have made good money in a span of 30 minutes. So be cautious not to be fooled by this people.
10903  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Pacquiao vs. Horn - REMATCH! on: September 20, 2017, 02:02:04 AM
This will be a disgrace for Mr. Pacquaio if ever he losses again for the second time against Horn. I'm thinking if the boxing industry wants to build another Floyd Mayweather, I mean a fighter that has 0 loss. And I can see it possible with Horn, this industry now is not entertaining anymore as it's obvious that they are for promotion, PPV and other shares.
It will be a total disgrace but Bob Arum will not let it happen if this fight will push through in November in the Philippines or in any venue Im sure that Manny will win this time because boxing this days is not all about pride and honor anymore its a business its all about money . 

I think Pacquiao has been milked already by Arum and already a dispensable item to him if you are going to ask me. And Pacquiao has been given cold treated by Arum already. And I read that the last fight with Horn is Manny's final fight in the contract with Top Rank. And maybe in the rematch, Arum is bargaining that's why the rematch did not push through. Maybe Arum has found his new cash cow with Horn already. And I also believes that Terrence Crawford is also Top's Rank new cash now. Boxing is not the same anymore. Its all about making the most money in every fight.
10904  Economy / Speculation / Re: Welcome back $4xxx bitcoin! on: September 20, 2017, 01:21:18 AM
Wonderful, that is a good news to hear.
Bitcoin is recovering fast more than ever, that is a good sign showing Bitcoin will reach another all time high in few weeks. Cool
If we note the past of bitcoin so we can find it easily that bitcoin recovers very fast. To touch back the subject figure has taken only one week and I personally welcome bitcoin in 4000. I hope after a month the subject will be welcome to bitcoin in 5000 because bitcoin has recovered very fast and now it will get raise most fast as it has break down all the speculation and now people are once again confidently buying bitcoin.

In an average, bitcoin price is just above ~$39xx, but it's still good though considering the painful two week that we have been through. I think this is the true value of bitcoin now minus the Chinese market. Bitcoin once more proved its resiliiency, so holders are very much happy to see the price jump quickly while those weak hands who sold at $2800-$900 are just shaken their heads and regretting their decision. But to go to $5000 is anything thing. I don't know what significant event we need to see to really push the market price to $5000 once more.
10905  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China vs BTC? on: September 19, 2017, 10:33:30 PM
There are news on the internet and you can google it if you want a specific information about it. But for giving you a short info, China is not trying to ban bitcoin. It is not literally they are banning bitcoin but it's like the message they want to send to the crypto people there is they want to regulate the transactions of bitcoin and other alt coins, so they banned exchanges and ICO's.

I hope that the domestic exchange and ICO ban is all that will happen. There have even been suggestions that these bans are temporary, and that the government will institute a licensing regime for them.

However, there is some scary FUD floating around that would be much worse:

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(Unverified) report that China is trying to block bitcoin exchanges and p2p network in China by GFW @cnLedger
https://twitter.com/btcdrak/status/908998917995552776

They can't really block access to the Bitcoin network anymore than they can block access to Google. That is to say, average citizens can probably circumvent it. But if true, this could provide another major round of FUD that could rock the markets.

I have read those articles that you mentioned about the ban is just a temporary thing. China seems to block and ban p2p trade / network, what are they really want to tell us? There is also a tweet from viabtc and they are worrying about "what If" mining will be banned in China.

Yeah, Haipo Yang has been laying on the FUD very thick ever since the rumors emerged. I wonder why. By all appearances, ViaBTC has always been a proxy for Bitmain, and Bitmain holds a lot of BTC (and are heavily invested in its future). I don't see how him going around tweeting "if China gov say mining is illegal, we are fucked" helps their cause. Jihan Wu, in comparison, has not shown the same level of worry.

It would not be surprising if China blocked the P2P network within the country's Great Firewall. It wouldn't be effective at restricting use, but it would discourage average citizens from using it and thus using BTC for capital flight.

But given BTC's trajectory on the world stage and China's dominance in mining, the government prohibiting mining would be shooting themselves in the foot.

These shills wanted to manipulate the market, I don't know if they are having a secret discussion together with the Chinese gov't authorities for their problems or with Dimon or anyone that is happy with what's happening on China. And there is a news that China started to block p2p network these country really wants to discourage it's people from supporting bitcoin.

For me its very simple. They saw that bitcoin could be a threat to them financially that's why they have to get rid of it. Their people love bitcoin, unfortunately, their government hates it, So who gonna suffer from all of this? its all the bitcoin enthusiast from China. But they can't really stop bitcoin now and other nation can also take over from them. Its just that so pity that traders/investors from China are taking all the heat and can't do anything about it.
10906  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fake news :Bitcoin is not banned in china on: September 16, 2017, 09:57:28 AM
Don't panic and don't sell your crypto  Angry, it is only fake news , they can't bane banne bitcoin  Cool
I have told you that some Chinese exchanges might be banned according to our own sources. Do not forget China cannot ban Bitcoin and is not banning bitcoin. The market is going down a bit now but in my view it will recover. Do not panic. Tongue Roll Eyes

Who said that bitcoin is ban in China? You just misunderstood the fact that China is not literally banning bitcoin, but exchanges and it's ICO's. And I've read an article that these are just temporal so we can see on how China is taking it's sentiment for bitcoin in the first place. They just want to regulate the crypto currency transactions in their country.
I agree with you . China wants to control its users and avoid shifting to other countries, which is justified because China owns more than 70% of the total number of Bitcoins and the ban is never going to happen.

I don't have an idea if they are owning more than 70% worth of the total bitcoins in the circulation. There are a lot of news that comes out from China and everything is aware of it and this weekend we can breathe widely because the price starts to get up again. And China is a big player in the market that has a lot of miners, investors and traders so the news did affected the market.

Really happy to see bitcoin got up in the last 24 hours. We really don't know what's real news coming from China anymore. The fakes news has already affect us in a very damaging way that the price plummeted below $3000. However, we are already in the road to recovery so I guess people already know how to react from fake news, by buying more bitcoins. Let's see if the trend will continue despite negative from the Chinese government towards bitcoin ecosystem.

Alright, it landed now at $3,800 so there's a big hope that we will going to see bitcoin again at $4,000. Those news are coming from China can be found in news crypto articles and those people that are relying to Charlie's Lee status on twitter they are so many of it. And many are taking advantage of those news for spreading fud's on internet and made people to sell.

As per preev.com its above $4000 now. I think the drama is over for now. We have unmasked the entities behind this FUD and the massive buying as well. JPMorgan is really the brainchild adding the fake and negative news from China. Its a relief from 2 weeks of seeing the market going down in shambles. I'm seeing a massive bull run already boiling and the steam has just started. Let go and move forward from the China news, they already impacted the market so much already, its about time to see the steam of bitcoin and where will it take us.
10907  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Good news to bitcoin traders. on: September 16, 2017, 08:31:28 AM
"Chinese government said it is impossible to ban bitcoin that they are just trying to regulate it and they actions should benefits blockchain" https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6zzmyy/official_press_of_china_it_is_impossible_to_ban/ for fundamental analysis traders, the best time to buy bitcoin is now as this is the best significant news that come from China after the banned of ico and the fake news or rumor of banned of cryptocurrency exchangers in China.

This is a breath of fresh air. However, the damaged has been already and seeing the price now at $3800-$3900. I consider the earlier fake news that someone or some big entities have already benefited from the string of negatives news coming from China. Maybe they have sold already around $4700-$4800 at the height of the massive bullrun, and they spreading fake news so that they can buy in this dip. I already think that Chinese banning or closing down local exchanges are really a band move on their side. They should put a tighter regulation and this is a win-win for all of us. Hope that the dust is cleared already and investors started to go gather and buy bitcoins once again.

I think we have uncovered the biggest fraud and price manipulator of them all, JPMorgan and Chase.

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@cryptowarrior88/breaking-news-peek-a-boo-jpmorgan-i-see-you

They are the biggest buyer of bitcoin when the price hits bottom 24 hours ago. And Dimon has manipulated the price and riding from all the bruhaha that China has started. I suspect from the beginning as well that there are indeed entities behind trying to bring down the market price and sway it in this favor. There might be a lot of news that will be out regarding this discovery, but I don't know if JPMorgan will admit to it or not. Lessons learned. Do not trust bankers.
10908  Economy / Speculation / Re: That was the bottom. It's going back up. on: September 15, 2017, 03:03:09 PM
Was never in doubt, happens all the time with bitcoin. Thankfully bought at 3000 now can sit back and watch those profits take off!

Nice mate. I'm seeing the price going to $3500 now. $600 in a few hours. I don't know if this is a trap, but its good to see bitcoin recovering again after such mess that China has made to the ecosystem last few days or so. Wasn't able to buy though, and since I'm late in the party, I might as well see how it turns out tomorrow. Someone says that dead cat bounce, which is a temporary recovery. But let say how it goes.

Looks like OP nailed it, it bottomed at $2800 and right now we are at $3520 and climbing back up. Other reputable price analyists like Tone Vays called a $2800 trend reversal too.

It really cannot get any worse than what we saw. The impact of China banning Bitcoin was obviously priced out already and not only that, but the implications of no Chinese exchanges were greatly EXAGGERATED as we are seeing a massive bull happening right no without Chinese exchanges.

I agree. It was grossly exaggerated and I guess some big entities have already benefited from such FUD. Chinese exchanges are dumping heavily but if was already offset by another massive bull run that we are seeing. We may see $4000 again. And for holders, this is a good day, and it paved off. Losers again are the weak hands that panic during the dip.
10909  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Once again,BTC is back on: September 15, 2017, 02:16:36 PM
I just woke up seeing the price at Preev at $29xx and have a breakfast little chat with families and then when I came back I'm can't believe that it jump to $34xx now. I guess its to early to rejoice but this is a good sight to see that finally we are able to go up again after going down below $3000. We all have seen this price last week of July, prior to Aug 1 split. We need to be calm I started to open my wallet now and will observe in the next hours or so to see if the trend continues. Finally a relief for all of us after almost 2 weeks of bloodbath.
10910  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-09-14] Why Big Banks Attacked Bitcoin on: September 15, 2017, 01:45:53 PM
It is obvious that banks are afraid of bitcoin. However, in the beginning, they see it as no threat to them. But as bitcoin's exponentially growth capping with almost 400% in a year, they simply can't ignore the facts that is already gaining adoption so they have to do something to stop this madness. China started the war already, by banning ICO's and now chasing down their local exchanges. I guess they are really worried that someday, banks will be obsolete because having bitcoin is like being your own bank. Although we read that China just want to step up its regulations on local exchanges and possible if they comply to everything the government wants, they can soon operate. But this remains to be seen.
10911  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Time management. on: September 15, 2017, 11:46:30 AM
Yeah its really doesn't take more time 1 to 3 hours just enough for me reading infomation for trading btc. For me I don't have any problem with this time management even though we each have responsibilities in our lives. Easy to open website where ever you go by using you phone.
Yes, taking out couple of hours daily is not a big deal actually. You only need to manage your time in the best possible way. You can only be a successful person in your life of you actually know and value the importance of time. Time is everything. It is up to you that how you take advantage of your time.

Working on campaign does not take too much of my time because i still have a day job. It is depending on the way how you are earning bitcoins. If you are a trader then with a huge amount of capital then probably you need to check the market every hour to gain small profits but if your just working on a campaign then it does not take too much time.

Trading takes a lot of my time, and I have a signature campaign to fulfill as well, and a business to manage. So its really up to the person on how you should manage your time. The good thing is that my business, a have a lot of time to be in front of m PC so its not a problem in my end. So I'm hitting two birds with one stone. But for most of us, you need to prioritize things so that you can manage your time easily without putting too much pressure on yourself, because we also have other responsibilities outside of our bitcoin activity.
10912  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Btc drop near 2k? on: September 15, 2017, 11:12:09 AM
I felt like I missed a great opportunity at selling high and buying low when it reached 5k and drop to 4k a couple of days ago. Now it happened again from 4k to 3k. You think it will happen a third time, from 3k to 2k?

The price is going down further to $3000. But its really hard to think that bitcoin could go lower or near $2000. I'm hoping that the support level at $3000 will be strong enough. But if it collapses in the coming days, then most likely that $2000 will be the last stop before we can see some semblance of a rally. The China news that BTCC is shutting down its operations add another drama that cause another dump. Imagine if Huobi and OKCoin followed as well, we will having the same reaction. But for me this is just temporary and I hope that we can recover again.
10913  Economy / Economics / Re: CHINA will halts all Bitcoins exchange.... on: September 14, 2017, 03:28:41 PM
Just now... China has declared a halt to Bitcoins exchange and operations by October... The price of Bitcoins has partially drop due to the news... However, if we can equal the population of Bitcoins user in China and invite a lot of investors... I think Bitcoin will still survive.... Hope so....

Bitcoin will still survive, the only problem is the price itself. The price of bitcoin crashed again because of that news and BTCChina exchanges officially announce will close all trade 30sept. This month will be a hard days for bitcoin and the bitcoin price, i'm afraid the bitcoin price will crashed down to $3,000 or even less.

We have to face the hard fact that bitcoin will really go crashing down. And its gonna took a for a while before we see the price could touch $4000. But if China really wants to get out of bitcoin then let it be. There are still major players around like Japan and South Korea and the US that will make this market regain it strength in the next coming months or years. If you are in for the long term, then you are just cool I guess. But for investors who think that bitcoin is a quick rich scheme and seeing the price going down, then they must be the first one to panic and push the sell button.
10914  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BItcoin end or destroy in this month?? on: September 14, 2017, 02:56:17 PM
My conspiracy theory is that China wants reduce the price of bitcoin cash's price so their countrymen can buy at lower price. Then start promoting again.
lol  Grin but it is true, too many times china use this strategy to make btc price dumped but it is work. maybe need to hold longer time so btc can back to rise again

Only option is too really hold on our bitcoin after this deluge that we are facing. I don't know if your conspiracy is true, but everyone loves to buy in dip so I'm expecting that a intelligent investors would enter the market right now because the price is too cheap. It just sad to see that after the Aug 1 split bitcoin price was not deter by it but the opposite had happen. Then China and all their shenanigans started to pull back the price because they are now waging war on bitcoin buy banning ICO then now closing local exchanges. But someone like Japan can really step up and continue to buy more bitcoin to offset this panic.
10915  Economy / Speculation / Re: cheap coin is coming??? on: September 14, 2017, 12:42:50 PM
should I buy now? won't miss the last opportunity to the moon. I want to come with you

I would advise you to not wait and enter the market now. The price is going down so its pretty cheap. You might be better to buy in small portions and not go buy 1 BTC. Try to observed the market and see if the price is going down further then buy more. If the price is going up then you can still get as well because it will not go up suddenly, maybe a swing of $100-$200. So its gonna be a win-win situation now for those  who are waiting to enter the market and ride the hype train once again. I don't want to miss this opportunity so I'm also buying later.  Smiley
10916  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BOXING MIDDLEWEIGHT TITLE FIGHT - Canelo vs. GGG Discussion on: September 14, 2017, 09:41:03 AM
If this two boxers really engaged early in the center of the ring. It could end as the Fight of the Year.  And our money will be worth as compare to the circus fight of May-McGregor. And thinking that as boxing fans, we have waited for 2 years, and now the fight will happen. I'm a fan of both fighters, so its really hard to pick one here. But I'm going to pick Golovkin because he is one of the most vicious punchers and one punch can really change the outcome of this fight. If he hit Alvarez squarely in the face I think he will go down or be KO'd.
10917  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread on: September 14, 2017, 07:36:05 AM
Well guys it looks like Jones is officially stripped off his title after failing two tests for steroids.  His rematch with Cormier has been now overturned into a 'no contest'.  Cormier is reinstated as the LHW champ.

Jones you stupid little ****.  What a waste.

What the....

I'm so disappointed with Jones. He just wasted his fucking career. I guess Cormier is right portraying what's the real personality of Jones specially in their first fight. You will hear Jones talking shit about Cormier and he thought that the microphone is offline. I still remember Cormier saying that Jones trying to sell himself as the good guy but outside he is so arrogant and boastful. Glad to see Cormier being he LHW champ and for exposing how fraudster Jones was from the very beginning.
10918  Economy / Marketplace / Re: What happened ? on: September 13, 2017, 03:21:11 PM
Why do we fall? is the correction continuing or new news?

Several factors has really contributed to the price diving today and the rest of the month. First, the Chinese news banning ICO's was the beginning then followed by them announcing that they will ban local exchanges as well. The JP Morgan's CEO Jamie Dimon calling bitcoin as fraud was the catalyst for yesterday and today's dumping. But as others have said this is just a temporary setup for bitcoin market and you need to keep your nerves calm and do not panic. But instead you can buy in this price correction and hold it for long term. Because history tells us that bitcoin can rebound from such disaster and who knows, we may get to $5000 after everything has cool down.
10919  Economy / Speculation / Re: Feeling good about the dip / down on: September 13, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
3800 seems to be pretty strong as for now, let's see what comes next - 4400 + or another dip to 3300 ?


Down to $3700 now. It didn't hold at $3800 so let see how the market react. I don't know if we hit at lot $3300 though. I'm optimistic that $3600 will be the floor. On second thought, this is really a perfect time to buy while its still down at the moment. We all know that this panic sell will not last and just be temporary and we may touch $5000 again who knows. But we must face the challenge today and see how investors would react. As other feel good seeing this dip because they can now come and they will be the fortunate one because once everything settles down and hit ATH is gonna be huge profit.
10920  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Storm is coming - big one? on: September 13, 2017, 02:19:39 PM
Binance has stopped Chinese trading. That is not the same as Chinese government blocking.  Bitcoin is still above the $4000 level. Perhaps it will maintain this for a while. Can Chinese investors not use other exchange.

On the contrary, on a average from different trading platforms, bitcoin is trading at $38xx so the dumping of the Chinese still continues. I believed that we are in the eye of the storm currency, but as I see it we can withstand this storm and this is just temporary. Once this storm has left we can see the sun once again. I don't know if Chinese traders can go outside of China to trade. Maybe they can use VPN to get away with the i.p. address issue. But for us non-Chinese, this is a perfect time to buy cheap bitcoins. So let's hodl and not panic but preferably get bitcoin now while its price is low.
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