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1101  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What are best sources to learn trading on: October 14, 2017, 11:50:30 AM
Dont believe on sources and you itself do the research and analyze on the coin and its projects and how the coin is trading. If you have taken part in bounty campaign then you will be getting free coins, so by trading with that coin you can know how the coin will progress after that you can invest and trade highly.
The best way of getting information is by doing your own analysis and research but for doing research you need some good tools. I will personally suggest watching YouTube videos, reading articles and listening to international news for staying updated about your coin. I will support your point of trading your coins earned from signature campaigns. Signature campaign are best for earning coins.

In the suggestion you have given Youtube videos is the best source to learn the bitcoin trading. There are many videos in online to learn trading in localbitcoins, polenix or bitrex. Go with the best guys do videos in the Youtube. Some may not give explanation and slang may not be understandable for you. Trading with the signature earnings will not be enough to become a trader bro. You need more money.
1102  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Why there is no more hardware for mining? on: October 14, 2017, 11:33:50 AM
Thanks to all for your feedback. I would like to have some info updated.
Price of Antminer S9 on BITMAIN official websire dropped from 1950USD to 1250USD without PSU but delivery is still end of November.
I sent them message asking for a better delivery for 60 Antminer S9 but no reply.
I have found 50/60 Antiminer S9 here to a trader in Shanghai at price 2200USD including PSU delivery end of October or 1900USD delivery mid of November.

Why the price for SHA256 is dropped nowadays? This depends from the fear of Chinese government block the mining in China?
If so it is better to wait and buy later?
I heard that some whole mining farms are on sale in Inner Mongolia may be I can go there and buy some miners anyone have info about this?

Thanks for anhy suggestion abou tthis matter.

After Chinese ban about bitcoin, from that time onwards bitcoin miner selling seems down than earlier. I have come across the many complaints that delivery and production is not faster than before. There are many resellers available in the ebay site to buy the miner with them. But cost of the miner you see in the Bitmain will surely differs than the original cost. Please check the price before you with the purchase you wish to do with mongolians.
1103  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Searching quiet miner on: October 14, 2017, 11:18:26 AM
The only option I can see here is an antminer R4, mining with your GPU or multiple GPU's if possible and cloud mining.

Any ASIC miners will be good to start mining but the price and expecting quietness will be not happened with the mining platform. If wish to start mining you have to go with the GPU miner rig set up but the profit you can't expect you can get in ASIC series. As everyone said, I will also suggest you to go with the antminer S9. Don't suggest cloud mining to any one because the profit is not expectable in this option.
1104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Simple GUI mining software....are there any on: October 14, 2017, 11:02:28 AM
onlineminer.xyz

simple to sign up and pays decent.

This site suggested by the some of the newbies most of the time. I will suggest you to don't go with these kind of cloud mining sites. They won't give any profit to you. All the money you invested will be find the lose most of the time.
Nice hash, miner gate and CGminer are good to mine with your CPU cores and GPU unit.
1105  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Full citizenship of the Pacific nation of Vanuatu for less than 44 bitcoin on: October 14, 2017, 07:03:37 AM
Nice article but you might come across the citizenship noticed released last year by erteria. Since they less population in their country. They are lack of mens in that country. So girls need a men. As a dashboard investigation, they have 10 girls for 1 men ratio. To change this their government welcomes everyone to marry their country girls with the free citizenship. I hope anyone would love this information.
1106  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do I find bitcoin accepted ebay sellers? on: October 14, 2017, 06:51:10 AM
Huh thanks everyone

ebay is not accepting bit coins. mostly it can accepting money only. but other online markets like amazon, flip kart and other sites can accepting bit coins except ebay. so you have to choose another one. actually in ebay has few problems. so try to choose best one for buying and selling. so try to choose another site.

Another organic push count from you. If you want to increase there are many off topic threads available for you bro. Why digging the thread unwantedly here. You can find the same above from many people and you simply quote the same message again. Don't do that anymore some may report to you to moderators as well.
1107  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: How many bitcoin can find on mining? on: October 14, 2017, 06:40:15 AM
I'm so curious to mine a bitcoin. If all bitcoins have been taken by miners.
If you are only curious about mining bitcoin then it is better to not start, you can do it out of curiosity if you want but if you want to obtain profits then you need to be serious about it, you will need to join a pool, buy equipment and make sure the electricity costs in your country allows you to be profitable, when you take into account all the trouble you need to go through you realize that most people are better off buying bitcoin with the money needed to invest in the miners.

He just doing analysis buddy to start mining. Don't give a troll to him. Since, ASIC miners rates are increased in big numbers recent days. Most of the people afford for the antminer s9 or other end brands.
@op income is depend on the miner you start with and how many rigs you have in your mining farm. This will only give the clear information about the profit. There are many profit calc available you can check with that.

1108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Bitcoin cash or Bitcoin gold? on: October 13, 2017, 06:32:44 PM
I do not think that bitcoincash and bitcoingold will be able to beat bitcoin, I still think that bitcoin will stay ahead compared to both coins born from the hard fork that happens, but basically bitcoingold will be like bitcoincash which will only skyrocket early in its birth. and then it will continue to follow the bitcoin price and lags far behind the bitcoin price

Here the question is about bitcoin gold or bitcoin cash. Why you are comparing it here with bitcoin now. Since hard fork is expecting to hit in the next month 25th. Every one think that bitcoin price will dump and block size increment will happen for sure.
Block segregation will increase the price like last time but mostly everyone dump in that chart.
1109  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I found how to predict BTC price, now I'm building a tool for you guys on: October 13, 2017, 05:29:29 AM
I'm an economic student and in the last 6 months I've been studying the cryptocurrency market. In my research, i wanted to understand what affects the cryptocurrencies price? and if it's possible to measure it?

The results were positive and I decided to create a tool for cryptocurrency traders that will help to improve your successful trading rates and have more confidence when buying/selling a coin.

Before I will release the tool for widely use I doing a bit more research in order to provide you guys the best trading tool out there. I made a short survey(2-3 minutes max) and your answers will help me to go further with my research & development.

The link to the survey:
https://freeonlinesurveys.com/s/uy2aOtky

I'm also looking for cryptocurrency traders with experience to try our the beta version that I'm about to release in the next few weeks.
PM if you're interested in testing my beta version.

Although it is a great idea and not the first time I have seen this idea on forum, but still I am curious that what would be the background mechanism or logic or algorithm your program/tool will be based on, because the market is highly volatile and even the experienced people in this market are never sure about their predictions. BTW i would like to try it in future and see if it helps.

This is a survey earning pass from the OP. Kindly ignore cloud, survey, captcha and faucet suggestions in the forum. In mining there are many people making dashboard to monitor the mining network pools. You can use this concept and make the link line from the source site to check the price chart frequently.
If you have Brave browser you can plug in the price chart moves add ons in that browser. Last week also I have read Browsers like Chrome, safari and mozilla gonna enable the bitcoin based plug in. Volatility should measure all the time that is why tool suggestion here bro.
1110  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Starting the Trade on: October 12, 2017, 06:57:48 PM
I would diversify my statements in a well-said manner:
Use Bittrex if you are in search of quick pumps because many pumps take place there randomly and you could make a quick buck. So if that's your purpose of trading, use it but beware that their withdrawal fee is high. You will have a variety of indicators offered there if you know how to use them and technically decide the price levels to be set to buy/sell your specific alt.
Use Poloniex if you wish to steadily grow your capital and learn aside that how it all works actually. They don't offer much indicators though, but their interface is cleaner compared to Bittrex.
Livecoin is also good because they list many ICOs at the very beginning after these ICOs' marketing and token sale ends.
Id rather like to trade on Bittrex because of the complete technical tools for using it on trading which i do prefer but when it comes to simplicity my vote would go for poloniex but for now i would pass on using them because of the countless issues been thrown to them but well its a good place to practice trades but as a beginner better to start on small because trade volumes and movements on this exchange is somehow fast moving compared to others.

Why bitrex is the so difficult to access I don't think it is that much difficult to exchange the coins for btc or fiats. To exchange the bitcoins you can use the localbitcoins site to do that you will find the trusted traders in online to see and buy bitcoins from you. Automated escrow will be handle your trade do no need worry about it.
1111  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and ICO's on: October 12, 2017, 06:29:13 PM
With the recent forks coming soon, we are starting to see a huge appreciation of BTC...obv everyone is buyng now
My question is...wont this affect ICO's?
A lot of them recieve btc investments and they could hit they hard cap 20-25% earlier due to the increase of BTC price. Wont this force them to close the ICO, and raise a lot less than eventually planned...if we compare to dollar price.

I think bitcoin's price increase has no effect on ICOs. Because, in fact, ICOs give the initial value for each currency. and that value is calculated at the bitcoin rate (XXX altcoin = 1 BTC). That value has been defaulted and will not change until it is officially traded on the exchange.

Bitcoin and ICO are different regions. None of the ICO coins has been created with the ethereum based smart contract altcoins. Initial coin offering will give initial cost of the coin with the additional percentage with the amount paid in btc or ETH for the token sale.
In exchange you may get the more value with the traders to initiate the trade whenever you selling bitcoins. Buying won't give good price in exchange.
1112  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Which One Is The Best Bitcoin Mining Site? on: October 12, 2017, 06:13:09 PM
i'm looking legit cloudmining before and I found many mining site, and try all of them but after a month they never paid always pending my withdrawal request. for now all I can say about cloud mining "BIG SCAM". so guys be carefull stay away to all cloud mining sdon't waste your time.
Cloud mining is the worst system I've ever found. they are smart to appeal to many people and to people who do not understand cloud mining then this will look very interesting. in the end cloud mining will only destroy our lives, cloud mining will spend our money because after we make a deposit on their website then we will only get a little money and buth years to be able to return the capital we spend. but there are even worse things when they (Cloud mining) to run away all the money investors who invest in their website.


Now minergate, Genesis and hashnet are good one for the miners invested on clouds but the payment and fees to maintain the cloud account. Additionally you need to pay for the hash rate to mine more coins but the profit level very low in cloud and you need to wait and get the profit back after one year only. Instead you can buy some bitcoins it gives better gain.
1113  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: It is good to invest money to a btc doubler mining sites??? on: October 12, 2017, 05:59:34 PM
it is good to invest money to a btc doubler miner sites?? Undecided Undecided

Doubling now changed the name as doubler mining hub. You can put your money to garbage instead of investing those kind of site. If you cross over the many sites you may understand this Ponzi scheme already.
Check the legit miner set up option like GPU or asic to start mining or go with the trading at least.
1114  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Mining by using website visiters on: October 12, 2017, 05:45:37 PM
Came across a site, which tried to upload Trojan to my PC. It turned out it was using my capacities for mining while I was at the site. What do you know about such sites? Do they do any harm to PCs? And is it profitable to mine by such means?

Now not all the cloud sites contains the malware's in it. If they have many advertising on the pages you can understand they are too much money concerned site so they will give errors in using the site or payment won't be proper for the miners you have invested there to buy the hash powers from the network pools.
1115  Economy / Economics / Re: Next generation money on: October 12, 2017, 05:30:49 PM
I think bitcoin can be said as future money because if money is only limited to a country, while bitcoin is more univesal and can be used in all countries in the world Wink

this could happen. because bitcoin also has a lot to use, possibly in the coming year can be considered money.
because something happens that we can not guess easily and simply.

it will not apply if the government begins to adopt their own coins and obliges all digital currency exchange through the official coins. But it is true that bitcoin is a stronger e-money pioneer that inspires governments to do similar developments. In the end the government will think about efficiency and forget the physical fiat.

Every government knows that the potential of bitcoin but they give ignorances to bitcoin due to their anonymous nature. Because of it Nome can trace who send the amount and can't trace the transaction made person. They forget the fiats in 2050 now generation not that adopted to digital evolution since there are many third world countries.
1116  Economy / Economics / Re: differences [in terms of business and investing money/crypto] . on: October 12, 2017, 05:14:23 PM
If your hold the bitcoin some years it will go e the double value equals to the USD or other Fiat value. This is least investment you can do with the bitcoin. If you think bitcoin concerns with the business and it has the differences each then you can make yourself investing in the platform such as trading, mining and lending or holding all consider as same bitcoin income varies each option.
1117  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bicoin gold on: October 12, 2017, 05:01:49 PM
Quote from: polylogic LinkedIn=topic=2260370.msg22898663#msg22898663 date=1507801281
How many gold will i get ,somewhere i read 1:10 but i think it is too much

you will get 1:1 this is not a coinswap or exchange
if you have 1 bitcoin you will get 1 bitcoin gold

now i guess what you were reading but failed to understand that bitcoin gold will probably have 1:10 value of the bitcoin.



It is not yet comes to the market you are speculating the value comparison with bitcoin. Bitcoin gold will destroy the market place value of bitcoin what it's bump today. However, try to hold the bitcoins as much you can.
BCH dump you may aware as like that this coin also will goes to the dump value in future. Go with ETH or ripple.
1118  Economy / Speculation / Re: A great day for Bitcoin on: October 11, 2017, 05:02:16 PM
Obviously. People usually think, by seeing the price at this point that they are late for investing in bitcoin, but i think they are wrong. It is never late to be a investor in bitcoin because the process is still continued. And if the price reached here today, it can surely go far higher tomorrow. Though the investors missed the chance of earning for once, but they always have the chance as long as bitcoin is below 10k mark. Because 10k for bitcoin is reachable for sure.
There will be no regrets if someone knows about bitcoin too late. But it should be thankful for not everyone is given the opportunity to use bitcoin. Never stop investing in bitcoins. The easiest way is to buy some bitcoins and then store them in the wallet safely. Try to see it in the future, I'm sure we'll get a profit and this is not a futile event.


You can more more with the savings itself but if you want doilbecthe bitcoins you have can get invested your bitcoins any trusted platform in bitcoin. Henceforth, you will be able to get the income every day and week. Signature earnings is the next one which is good to give more inco without investment.
1119  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time to buy the dip on: October 11, 2017, 04:39:42 PM
People want to receive their free Bitcoin Gold and their Segwit2xCoin forks and dump them for more real free BTC

Reasoning is correct but not complete.

To judge frankly: Bitcoin Gold brings only 5% profit (super super optimistic)
But buying BTC ($800/BTC at the beginning of the year) with $5000 is a major risk (because BTC doesn't cure cancer ... yet)

Last year halving cost is only price was around 800$ USD but this year bitcoin cost started raising after this year February so from that time now price increasing continuesly without big trouble.
Anytime bitcoin investment to buy is good because price potential takes to flight in future for sure.
1120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quiet Office Miner on: October 11, 2017, 04:21:16 PM
If you really want a quiet (and almost silent miner) you could look at USB miners. However, do not expect to make any money this way. You will NEVER make your money back. This is a way to do it just for fun, and get some very small payments in BTC and introduce you to mining/mining pools.

If you are interested in making some revenue, then you would have to mine from home. A miner will generate a lot of noise and heat (even the supposedly more domestically friendly models). This will quickly turn your office into a sauna and put off everyone nearby with he noise.


Alternatively, you could build an altcoin miner out of computer video cards, which will be quieter and generate less heat, mine alternative coins and then exchange them for bitcoin. Best looking in the altcoin section for suggestions in this area



Lol, USB miners like u2 and all will not gives the profit to you. If looks for profit we cannot get the returns for the electricity we paid for it.
Altcoin miners should be perfect for home or the commercial location but not fit for office and all. You will caught by your manager.
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