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1101  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 14, 2023, 01:13:41 PM
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Barcelona and Real Madrid are two of the most competitive clubs in European league football. When these two clubs enter the field against each other, neither team speaks to the other team.
Real Madrid and Barcelona are two giant clubs that are always fiercely competitive in La Liga, so it's only natural that no other club talks about the two club.
In the history of La Liga, Madrid and Barcelona have a history of very tight competition, in fact, no other club in La Liga has been able to equalize or offset these two clums.
For next summer, it looks like Real Madrid will be the most dominant to occupy the first position, but on the other hand, Barcelona has also prepared well for the summer so that the match between the two, if they meet, will be very fierce.

And very soon that continuation will stop because other clubs are seriously making a serious effort the changes will come very soon, looking at clubs playing la liga majority of them are not serious, even when it comes to buying players they don't sure interested in improving there club capacity, and since is now a two-way thing, if they don't improve then Madrid and Barca will continue to dominate, compare to clubs in the premier league and and champions league they are always on fire, the two can not be compared the best thing is that la liga clubs need to improve.
1102  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? on: July 14, 2023, 12:31:31 PM
I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place  using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account  insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

first thing when it comes to money involving one or two people, it become something serious that can s[poil relationship or reputation and to what you saying, the owner of the account his selfish and is not reasonable at all just because his account his used does not mean that he should get the lion share, has far has am concern they both used the same amount of money to place bet, anyone could have used there account to place the bet, the best they can do is to seek legal advice it will settle everything, if not the dude with the account wants to play smart.
1103  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Investing doesn't guarantee you to be rich on: July 14, 2023, 11:58:17 AM
Correct. Indeed, the majority of investors and traders often have misunderstandings about investing. They often think that they can easily become successful investing in bitcoins and other assets without learning about it and also don't understand the risks and hard work involved. Many investors lose money due to lack of knowledge and understanding of what they are investing in and the financial markets. Investments do not guarantee wealth, and only a small percentage of investors consistently make money. To achieve success in an investment career, it is important to get a good education and research, create a measured, disciplined and patient investment plan, manage risks wisely, keep learning and adapting.

Investing involves a lot of principles and creativity, that's what all successful people will tell you that it involves a lot of secret even from the books, I remembered when elon musk said how he met with a lot of  people just to gather enough data o noticed something with elon, he built his success with peoples idea, and its working for him take a look at tesla, the foundation and what make tesla different from other car is just information, the brain to process information, even the auto drive, use sensor to detect whats around it, and information is power even you want to be an investor you must learn to deal with challegis like failure which his something anyone can avoid, and lastly investing does not guarantee you been rich that just the whole point.
1104  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of Farming. on: July 13, 2023, 02:26:54 PM
Necessity is the mother of invention. We are still not at that point where we are out of farming lands. But the situation is quite tough now NGL. Vertical farming could be a solution to this. People will come up with more ideas to maximize farming. To be honest, farming has a great impact on the economy. If your country can produce enough food, then life will be much easy.

Food is the most essential substance in our life. We consume food every day no matter what. So focusing on that will be the best for everyone. But in order to make life easy, we do need other industries too. So I am not against urbanization if people can find more ways to maximize farming. Vertical farming is one step towards that. But in the future, we may see more ways to do it more efficiently.


looking at the fact that we all work is actually for one primary reason which is to feed, without food the body becomes sick, and like you said I don't think at this stage we have difficulty with lands for farming, we have very few people going into agriculture these days, the food supply is gradually dropping, and another thing have noticed with the food supply is that too many improved products that have serious health effects so not even everyone can afford the improved seeds and also I think vertical farming its also a good call but there are limitation to even when it comes to setting it up, and I think we should start encouraging people to start farming farming and to use less improved seeds and to go for more natural thing at least the quantity of the farm does not matter even if its small.
1105  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I am only trying to stay safe by gambling less on: July 13, 2023, 01:27:43 PM
Advice for everyone, imho the only way to stay safe from gambling is to let someone else manage your finances. As long as you have access to money, nothing works, not a single tactics and abstinence, banning web pages, setting limits, nothing. If you have money and try to play less, your wish to gambler will only grow. No money = no gambling problem.

As to OP post, investing can be also counted as gambling, as you are still trying your luck to improve financial position, yet on the other hand investing is not about emotions like gambling. There is yes and no answer to OP situation, both you and your friends are right.
 

Has far as the person is grown I don't see the reason that the person can not discipline himself or herself instead of going to the extent of allowing another person to manage your finance, it's very hard to trust someone in relation to money anyone can be tempted but the only thing I can say is that there should be a limit to whatever, combined with when it comes gambling, going above the limit can cause serious damages to your finance, investing is different from gambling, even if the chance is still 50/50 I would still not count investing to be the same with gambling and one thing with gambling once you get addicted then that's were the problem starts from. you start putting too much expectation.
1106  Economy / Speculation / Re: Take advantage of the price fall. on: July 13, 2023, 12:19:36 PM
Is been a hard knocked to everyone trading bitcoin this seasons especially investment, my friend was sore disappointed for the recent falling of price because he bought $1000 bitcoin but the truth is that we cannot foresees the future in today, this is not the first time the price is Reding down, we should take advantage of this time at least you can use a small to purchase high value bitcoin. I wish we've profound bitcoin price analyst here, many people really wants to know the cause of continues price deflected, if you've ideas please your comments will be very important here. We newbies this days fall victims a lot because of ignorance of cryptosystem. Let's talk as a family.


This season is not favourable for mtraders at all and any decision you make has a trader has serious consequences, I saw a lot of mems about how trader look then and how they look now , the problem his most people don't do risk management when trading they use all there money to trade, there should be a limitation set o the amount of money used while trading, and some one they trade and itdoes not favor the next step to take is revenge trading which is very risky step to trade has a smart trader, and that is why it best to invest in crypto with the money you don't need, you can only assume the price of bitcoin but you can not predict its future, one thing I noticed is that when it comes to knowledge people are always avoiding it.


Ups and down is normal nature for cryptocurrency market. Who are long time in crypto currency market he will know ups and down is normal. Some times it will go up and some times it will go down. It depend on many news and economic situation. But new comers will be frustrated when Market will fall it is also right. Because they are not familiar with this cryptocurrency markets habits. So i think your friend has been demotivated. But when market will up then he will satisfied there has no doubt. I also think we need to advantage of the price fall. If we entire in deep we will be huge profited today or tomorrow.

Values are always determined by demand and supply dynamics or trends, which makes them very difficult to anticipate. Another issue about cryptocurrency is that there is no way to invest in it and not lose money it is simply not feasible.
, the best we can all do is to have a very clear picture of the occurrence so that at the end of the day when you lose the money you don't get too emotional about it since you already know what the ecosystem is all about, the most thing that drives the market is news has started by you, another advice if you starting crypto newly just use a small amount of money to kick start and to understand before you start doing the necessary thing since the knowledge is already there.
1107  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 13, 2023, 11:51:50 AM
Barcelona and Real Madrid are really both scouting Brazilian players continually and discovering really great talents there. For example Neymar came from Santos and Vinicius Junior came from Flamengo to the La Liga and made us watch great football. Therefore Brazil is like the second home of these teams and I don't see any other team being able to compete with them about signing such players there.

I heard that Tottenham and Manchester United also wanted to intervene Vitor Roque deal by the way and they even offered an amount near 100 million euros. But the amount doesn't seem realistic to me much. I don't feel like any of those teams would spend that high amount on him. However he still chose Barcelona as he was wishing to sign for them already.

The two clubs that predominate in La Liga are already known. , dominating for some time now even  Madrid showed a lack of unseriousness this season if not they would possess league victory they had chances than Barcelona and be that one of my favorite players is in Real Madrid, Benzema but now has gone to Saudi which is best since he has done his best has a player at Real Madrid, and most of both Madrid and Barca have Brazilian players and I don't blame them, people from brazil are raw talent when it comes to football and their players have a very beautiful record. 100 million for roque The question now is will you want to spend such an amount just to sign him?
1108  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 13, 2023, 11:17:10 AM
I wonder if Tottenham have a Plan B in case of Kane's departure this summer. Because Bayern Munich still seem determined to sign him. Some rumours say that Tottenham might go for Lukaku but I don't feel like the player would accept any offer from them. He is favouring Inter much more than any team interested these days.

But Tottenham still should be able to find a decent striker to fill Kane's place. They don't need to sign a world star like him as well. Because even though they have one now they still can't win any title. They need to focus on improving their performance as a team and then they can be more successful even with just a decent level striker.

inter milan has shown serious interest and seriousness to pay 25 million plus other bonuses attached o it but inter milan is still short of a 40 million valuation and, I don't think Lukaku will want to go back to England, and I am sure everything will come to a conclusion this week. Lukakus's position will be very useful for Bayan Munich and let us see who will end up signing Lukaku I want a thing I love about him is that even at his age lukaku has a lot of great potential with his talk about speed and good ball shooting out,  and would not want lukaku to go to Tottenham, even last season they had a lot of flops, it's better for him to go to a club that, has minimal damages so that he can have very great support from his teammates he works load won't be that much.
1109  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first experience with gambling? on: July 12, 2023, 08:49:05 PM
I remembered  my first day i was happy since it was me expecting money, and all started from my brother inlaw who enjoys betting  and end up been addicted, he works at the club  and comes  back with a betting slip to confirm if there is a win and at the end of the day he add zero wins, it was from him I knew how to place a bet online, then what I did was that was sure the limit was there and instead of arguing  for nothing I argue with my ticket, since playing constant is for does that have balls that can deal with emotions, the funniest of it all is that you keep expecting money you don't have, one there is a limit then even the risk of losing money wil reduce. Betting lot is risky and can liquidate you of all your assets
1110  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 12, 2023, 11:40:46 AM
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I hope Osimhen doesn’t go to Chelsea. They have spent a lot of money on really average players but Osimhen is the real deal imo. He’s the classic number 9, he’d really suit the Premier League. He’s got physicality, pace, a great shot. So yeah, I really hope Chelsea don’t manage to sign him.

I don’t really think that Victor Osimhen will accept Chelsea offer and if he does, it is at the risk of his career. There is no doubt that Osimhen is a young excellent striker, and considering that he is at the peak of his career, a move to Chelsea fc is not the best for him for the following reasons.
  • Chelsea will still be under the pressure to rejoin the top 4 next season
  • Chelsea is not playing any European football
If Osimhen really wanted English Premier League, there is Manchester United and there is Liverpool fc. For now Chelsea should be avoided because there will be too much pressure on the team.

I would not advise Victor Osimen to go to Chelsea because the club is looking for redemption, he should go to a stable club that will improve him better, so Chelsea was making moves to know osimens price a few weeks ago and now that the transfer window for osimen is almost 200 million.
Let's see what happens at the end of the day, and I like strikers like Osimen, who have traits like powerful shots and precision, but the truth is that he is too pricey. I don't even think Chelsea can sign him at that amount.
1111  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you cheat in gambling? on: July 10, 2023, 01:21:16 PM
The sure thing is that the casino will find out about people rigging the casino because the casino has a security team that will keep an eye on all the players. The casino will not let people cheat the casino and will find them easily because the security team has access that we can't even imagine. And if the casino finds it, it will surely punish those who cheat by locking their account or even immediately deleting it. In contrast, the casino will take the balance in their account. So you should never think about cheating the casino because you will pay the price later.

Cheating is just another way of implicating yourself from the start no matter how clever the cheater is, they will definitely catch him or her and if so, the person will face the law however, one thing I have noticed with people who commit such acts is that their minds are always made up and they are not afraid of the consequences. The legislation states that anyone apprehended will be used as a scapegoat. I don't believe I've ever seen or heard of someone doing anything like that. Anyone who wants to gamble should gamble, but going so far as to deceive a casino is not fair.
1112  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Investing and trading in crypto: can make you or mar you. on: July 10, 2023, 08:58:55 AM
Seen this image made my day was all cracked up, starting from the dude driving a car and maybe latter sold it, the market can so humble people, despite holding is not has easy has it sounds, the problem with crypto is that you can not predict the future you can only assume based on records, having bitcoin at a high value and you end up selling very low and at the end of the day, the investors get tired and end up leaving the market. What i noticed in investing is that you should but it at the back of your mind that it's a 50/50 thing, because anything can happen to anyone at any time adding knowledge is an additional help.
1113  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 10, 2023, 05:38:32 AM
I don't fully understand the discussion around Haaland because if Haaland wanted to play for Real Madrid, why then didn't he sign a contract with them last season when he came from Dortmund? This is a rumor at best as he also said that he wants to play in the best European league and for him that league is the EPL. He is in a perfect club with a huge salary and has the best players around him and won the Champions League. Why would he have already any other goal than defending the Champions League title in 23/24?

Even when I saw the discussion I was surprised and was wondering what is haaland looking for in real Madrid, he has made a very good name for himself in manchester city I don't see the point of him going even if it's just a rumor, am sure Haaland will not want to leave manchester city, for now, is comfortability with his teammate is already there its going to be a very hard decision to make, and the money been paid and aside the salary if any club want to be haaland its going to be on a very high price am very sure of that, manchester city is no fool they always make use of there opportunity very well.



you are right, why should Haaland go to another team when he is very comfortable in Manchester city. I think some of the friends above linked Haaland with Real Madrid even though it is very clear that there are no rumors suggesting that he will leave Manchester City.

For Real Madrid, they are indeed looking for a young talent who is ready to be made into a player who fills the gap left by Benzema, but linking him with Haaland is of course not one of the right options. But for other stickers, such as Osimhen or Mbappe, may be brought in.

Haaland will not even go to any club now, if not that people are just very funny coming up with a suggestion that Haaland might go to Real Madrid how hilarious when he knows his position well in manchester city, and Real Madrid are still considering signing mbappe since they are desperately looking for a productive player and since Madrid has lost trust in mbappe when he disappointed them when they wanted to sign him, they should be given another chance. Osimhen is also a very good option for them they have prospects in them and they are still young.
1114  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trade with caution on: July 10, 2023, 05:14:03 AM
A good trader knows how to timing the market, and there's no need to trade everyday because this will depend on your strategy.
The most important thing to have as a trader is your strategy, so make sure to have this and commit on that so you won't lose your track.
Trading can be very tricky too, and those who become more greed have a higher chance to lose the money, make sure you wont rush your trading learning because you might miss important knowledge about trading and that can result to a failed trading, have more patience while learning how to trading and just enjoy your journey in trading.

Everyone knows what is best for them when it comes to trading so even if the trader wants to trade every day if it works for him, and trading futures involves risk the higher the risk the higher the profit and if you can key into risk management by reducing the percentage it will help reduce the risk, and if anyone wants to trade knowledge can not be left out, or at the end of the day you end up losing your money which is bad, if everyone keeps loosing money then at the end of the day you become liquidated completely, caution suppose to be taking into consideration.
1115  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Invest small money and get big money avoid them. on: July 09, 2023, 06:12:55 PM
Na pure greed dey cause am, nothing else.
Greedy carry everything, but most people dat fall on the traps are the kind of lazy people who don't want to work hard to get money. Dos people dey look after successful people and like to imagine dem self to be like dem which dey did not view their past and see how they make. It take someone time before making it in life, like ten years, some like five years, some like one year or some few months all this depends on each one destiny. People falling for dis are educated once, almost 95%of them are educated and the reason for all that come from the school mentality of the school that after school the will get a white-collar job which they will continue waiting for and you know human beings have to survive that why they are all involved.

Normally people are greedy and everyone is just trying to press the available buttons to see which one brings luck and some are lazy, I know of people who are always trying new things out to see if they will get anything out of every opportunity since we are all trying to survive, and now the principle of working hard is gradually changing and now is working smart, and finally, the best we can do is to avoid offers like that, its always a scam and people keep fallen victim since everyone is desperate to get rich, educational status does no guarantee you escaping scam.
1116  Economy / Economics / Re: Automating your savings will help you save more on: July 09, 2023, 12:11:41 PM
This is actually good idea only if you have a stable income and financial status since you don't have to think of the deduction to your salary. Plus in case you want to use those deduction that you'll be needing but it's automatically will deduct then it might be a problem. For me, it would still be a good to have savings without even automatic but it's stil ldepends since some people want to be determined by saving that's why it's automatic and some would still prefer incase of emergency it woudln;t be a hassle since there's a fee


Furthermore, to have a steady income, I believe I saw recommendations for apps that can help you save automatically. You can set the amount to be saved, which is more convenient, but I noticed that if you want to keep paying attention to your income, you won't save. However, once the app is set, you won't even notice it, and at the end of the day, you have some savings. Alternatively, you can just go back to a piggy bank. The person should do whatever is most convenient for them,  looking at it another way round the person might have a reason due to plenty challenges so his money his choice.
1117  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: July 09, 2023, 09:37:52 AM
Success have got different definition. It all depends upon the person and the limit they've set to term a person is successful. Not all are addicts, most of the time jackpot winners used to get addicted as they don't know what to do with the big money that's been won. Some people used to have prior experience handling big money and they use it properly whereas there are people who just spend it lavish and once again starts to gamble with the left behind. This makes them get into addiction, so not every successful gambler is an addict.

In addition, the word success and addiction has two different picture and different phases, and when you talk about success is more positive and addiction carries a lot of negativity and very sure that people that are successful in gambling are not addicts looking at an addict and a revenge trader are almost similar making a decision in respect of there emotion not just a decision but a reckless one, and been successful involves discipline especially when you want to gamble just one greedy decision can ruin all forever so having an understanding of the two matters a lot.

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  most of the time jackpot winners used to get addicted as they don't know what to do with the big money that's been won

This has to do with personality, but the majority of people who win the lottery always end up wasting money. They are always confused about how to spend the money, and at the end of the day, the money is spent on irrelevant things, and they become addicts, as you mentioned.


 
1118  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 09, 2023, 08:38:36 AM
But that is exactly what he wants Chelsea to sell him or terminate his contract, it's just that Chelsea don't want to do it they are still waiting if there is a better offer from Inter Milan. Chelsea spent 112 million when signing him and now they're willing to let him go for 40 million meaning Chelsea is ready to lose more than 50% I wonder why Chelsea didn't let him go to the Saudi League when there was an offer.

Since he wants Chelsea to sell him, they should do so, and aside from being a club that provides entertainment, they are also businessmen, so they are waiting for a better offer, and since Inter Milan has enjoyed Lukaku's presence, they should just go for him, and Chelsea loosing such a large sum of money just to let him go is not a good business, and I wouldn't advise anyone to go to Saudi if it wasn't for the money.

Yes, Lukaku has been included in the list of players that will be sold by Chelsea in this transfer window. Well, it's very natural if he really reluctantly returns to Chelsea or to say hello to Pochettino. In the previous few weeks there have been several offers that have come to Chelsea regarding their interest in Lukaku one of which is a team from Saudi Arabia and Ac milan but now there seems to be no further development of the two teams in the signing of Lukaku.

On the one hand, only Inter Milan is the leading team to buy Lukaku again. But they can't afford to buy him at a price of 40 million and this is a big reason Lukaku's status is still unclear until now. But as a player's professional attitude, of course he must listen to all the direction of the Chelsea management because he is still under contract with Chelsea.

Since the list has been made to sell Lukaku and others, and Chelsea wants to do a serious sorting for their players, because last season was a mess, and now they are doing everything possible to be redeemed, which is good, let's wait and see where lukaku ends up, and I'm sure chelsea will want to consider the club with the best offer considering the money used in signing him, personally I don't buy the idea of any player going to Saudi If it weren't for the money, and 40 million has become a lot of money, I believe Lukaku still has some fire in him.
1119  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Senate wants end to police harassment and extortion on: July 07, 2023, 02:31:17 PM
The Nigerian police fall under the the executive arm of govt charged with the responsibility of enforcing laws and executing the policies and decisions of the government.

But if we critically analyze the definition, e go be like "what I ordered vs what I got" situation. We all know the issue wey bin happen for 2020. Even doh no be police be the reason for the protest, at least them follow due to the way dem dey take harrass motorists and commuters alike.

In recent news , Senate don put am for their oga kpatakpata body say make e tell e boys to mellow for this their character as e no dey paint the country well.
There's the saying that " nah were man dey work, e dey chop" and e come be like say them dey take the saying too seriously. How una reason this mata? 

The police have a very big problem especially when it comes to brutality against its citizens,  not only Nigeria has this problem, but it has been a global concern aside from brutality and talk of extortion, so many things I think for the past few weeks now I see that they have started making a scapegoat out of them, once you can provide a piece of evidence than the matter is going to be taking seriously they were videos of how the police were beating their own citizen, the normal way if the person is charged guilty of any crime why not detain him and if it is serious then charge him to the court that's what they call process not beating anyone up. since the senate has ordered the IG of police then we should expect improvement.
1120  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is risky, be conscious on: July 07, 2023, 01:52:09 PM
Over the time, I've seen people wanting to go into trading because they feel or think is a get rich quick scheme but get so disappointed along the process because the result they get isn't what was expected.
Trading is a very lucrative business but also a very risky business as well and as such should be done with so much caution.
What would be your advice for those wanting to trade as a newbie?

That's what kills some people they invest in what they don't know and at the end of the day the risk increases, going to exchanges to buy is the easiest, and after the action within them they are already a trader not having a target, or goal to meet up with. While risk management is one of the best ways to focus on, avoid using all of your money to trade or engage in revenge trading because if you do, you're already using your own hands to dig your own grave. The best thing I always recommend even if you want to trade is to always seek knowledge. People with knowledge are losing money, but they tend to talk more about people who have no knowledge at all. You can make money from trading and you can also lose all of your money.
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