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1101  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling are mainly for rich and lucky mind. on: November 29, 2023, 02:20:50 PM
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I agree with what you said, everyone can do gambling as long as they have enough money to do gambling because the main thing about gambling is of course money. Even so there are still and maybe many who gamble with the aim of getting rich quickly, I don't know what kind of thinking, but of course this is wrong, if to get rich they should do a real job outside of gambling and work hard with the commitment of wanting to get rich that way they can go through the process, if to get rich quickly by gambling it is not recommended, because as you said entertainment that requires luck. If they are lucky they will get a win, if they are unlucky maybe they will become upset if they have the thought that the goal is to get rich. Few people have a good mindset about gambling by thinking of it as entertainment and not gambling excessively because many turn away from it. They must remember, excessive gambling can create an uncontrollable addiction whether it's thinking or behavior.
What must be prepared before starting to gamble is money, whether you are a pro gambler or a beginner gambler. Apart from that, they must have strong self-control so as not to gamble excessively. It is clear that there are still many people who have the idea of getting rich quickly from gambling, so they still return to gambling even though they often have consecutive losses because they still want to win like other gamblers. They do not limit themselves to gambling, let alone control themselves because they already have a goal of making money from gambling. And this is what causes many small gamblers to lose a lot of money because they keep depositing money to be able to win gambling. Their mindset must be changed by themselves, especially after experiencing successive losses, and it would be a shame if they could not take lessons from their consecutive losses. They will only return to gambling and spend more of their money.

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Gambling is not for rich people and it is not for poor people...! Not for rich people who think that gambling can increase their wealth and not for poor people who think that gambling can change their situation.

Then who is this gambling for..? As you said, this gambling is here for people who think that this is just about fun. Gambling is just to fill your free time and betting is just to add to the sensation of watching a match.

This gambling can be a negative thing, because gambling can make us lose everything, including wasted time and wasted money. But not for people who think clearly who turn this gambling activity into something positive by considering gambling as a means of entertainment to get pleasure and relieve fatigue and stress after work.
Gambling is for people who just want to use gambling as entertainment. We must always remember this because after all, it is difficult for us to produce wins, let alone consecutive wins. After all, without luck, we will only lose in a row. Gambling in our spare time is okay as long as we know the limits and don't use a lot of money because that will only make us more passionate and want to win at gambling. We must realize that gambling is only for fun in our free time, and we don't need to try to chase wins. We also have to be able to accept whatever the outcome is after we finish gambling, and it is not appropriate to deposit more money, especially after experiencing a losing streak.
1102  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: November 29, 2023, 02:05:14 PM
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The size of your bankroll can indeed have an effect on your chances of winning, even card counters which have a strategy that if applied correctly can beat the casinos, still need to have a big enough bankroll, and if this is not the case then they are taking a massive risk, as if the bets they make do not go their way early on then their capital will take a big hit from which it will be impossible to recover, so it is not surprising those that do not have a lot of money to dedicate to gambling seem to realize that those that have more money than them seem to have better luck, but this is happens simply because rich people can afford to gamble until their luck changes for the better.
That's why those of us who don't have a lot of money must also be able to realize that we can just enjoy gambling as it is and don't need to try too hard on ourselves to win. We are different from these rich gamblers in that they have more money that can be used to bet, and they can even place bigger bets than us. By realizing the limitations we have, we will not try to gamble excessively, so we only need to use the time and money we have to place bets, and when we have enough, we can immediately stop gambling and leave the casino. This is a preventive measure so that we don't get a lot of problems from gambling and also don't experience gambling addiction because we can control ourselves when gambling.
1103  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Possible measures to stop online gambling addiction. on: November 28, 2023, 10:03:14 PM
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Yeah and with alternative activities we will be able to divert our attentions, and that's very important in terms of changing the direction of your daily activities, once you already overcome that pollution inside you, things that gambling occupied inside your brain, it will be a good start or a fresh start to make things better.

Either you can refresh yourself and find that place inside you where there's no involvement into any gambling related industry or you will be refresh and find that wisdom that gambling is only for entertainment and you will learn how to adopt and adjust to limit both your money and time to spend for it.
By doing these alternative activities, our brain will compile a new list of what we have to do every day and not just do gambling. Perhaps at first, we still need to get used to this new activity, so perhaps we will still be gambling. But as the things we do increase and we start to get busy with these activities, our brain reorganizes what we have to do every day.

And after doing more activities, we will see that we are able to reduce our gambling activities by diverting our brain's attention. This allows us to organize what we need to do in order to reduce gambling activities that we may have been doing for a long time. And this new activity also makes us feel that we have found something that can keep us busy and not just think about gambling. Perhaps in the future, we will be completely free from thinking about gambling so that we can consider and treat gambling as entertainment.
1104  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling are mainly for rich and lucky mind. on: November 28, 2023, 09:48:22 PM
Gambling is not just for rich people, but for everyone, and every gambler should have the idea that gambling is entertainment that requires luck, so they should not think that gambling is a quick way to get rich. They still have to work outside of gambling and can bring a little money to gamble and just enjoy their free time. That's all they can do, so they don't need to put pressure on themselves to try hard to win the game. Gambling will become entertainment when there are gamblers who only want to gamble with a certain amount of money, not exceed the limit, and do not try to win the game or recover their losses. These are those who can always position themselves well in gambling because they know that gambling cannot always give them a win.
1105  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: November 28, 2023, 09:32:21 PM
You have really learned a valuable lesson from gambling, and hopefully you won't do it again. You have to work very hard to be able to pay off your debts. This is a valuable lesson for all of us too. Don't let us be in a position like that experienced by @OP or our lives will fall apart, and it will be difficult to get up in a situation like that. @OP, you have to be able to rise from adversity. This is not the end of it because you can still try to have money to pay the debts. Don't leave debts to your family or those who will experience difficulties.

That's why we always repeat the phrase: only use the money you can afford. If you have experienced a losing streak, you should immediately stop and not remember your losses because it is useless. If you continue gambling, it will not return the money you lost. You will only increase the number of losses even greater.
1106  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not this guy on: November 28, 2023, 09:08:45 PM
You can ask how much wealth he has so that you can understand why he can gamble until the amount of losses reaches six figures. But small gamblers don't do this because they have limited funds, so they don't dare to exceed the limits. They are lucky if they suffer a loss that they can afford because they care about their money. There is one who can afford to lose more money while we don't know where he gets the money to gamble. Perhaps because he had a serious gambling addiction, he didn't care about everything and just wanted to gamble. That is a real example of someone you meet, so you can learn from him so you don't experience loss like he experienced. Each gambler must be responsible for himself while gambling and must not lose control of himself or else they will experience a lot of losses.
1107  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A gambler's family action. on: November 28, 2023, 05:37:07 PM
We all know the extend a gamble addict can go just to satisfy the urge to bet, the man in question is an adult that can take good care of himself, families vary and everyone comes from a different family. We cannot start blaming the family for their action, most family are very caring and what they did was Just to express their love and care for him.

If a grown up adult can go to that extend to sell his property to bet then I think the person needs help, if the family allows him to continue like that it's likely he will not have any valuable property in his life, secondly he will never get married cause no woman wants to be with someone who always sell his valuable property to bet, we hear stories like this almost everyday the addiction of gambling can destroy a marriage.

In my point of view the family did the right thing, even if he doesn't want to share his money with his family there's nothing bad, I believe the family has been surviving so his money will not change the fact.
Yes, we don't know how the family is doing until they take such decisive action. The man may have gone too far in gambling, so his family felt the need to threaten the man so that he would not gamble anymore or even gamble in other cities. The man should be aware that his family really cares about him and does not want him to experience a more serious gambling addiction that makes it difficult to cure.

His family just wants him to reduce his gambling activities and stop them because they care about him and don't want to lose him. But if the firm actions of his family still can't bring the young man to his senses, he has really gambled excessively. He must be immediately taken to an expert so that he can be treated immediately before it's too late.
1108  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: November 28, 2023, 05:10:57 PM
Rich people have freedom when gambling, the large capital in their pockets makes them calmer when betting. Rich people can also play longer, of course because of the money they have. Luck in gambling sometimes takes longer to come, the longer they gamble the greater the chance of winning. Imo
Meanwhile, poor people are under pressure, they will play carefully, due to limited money. They might miss the opportunity to win big due to placing a small bet. It's not that poor people never win at gambling, the result of playing at small bets makes it seem like they never get big wins.
That is true because the luck factor cannot be predicted when it will come. With that larger capital, a rich gambler can gamble longer than an ordinary gambler, and maybe in the 100th round, the rich gambler will manage to win a big win that can get a big multiplier. This will turn the situation around where rich gamblers can get back their lost money and can also get their big winnings. Meanwhile, ordinary gamblers won't be able to have such an opportunity because they don't have much money and hope that their luck will come sooner than they think so that they don't have to lose more money because otherwise, they could spend all their money without being able to win. But there are ordinary gamblers who can win big with enough bets, and that's because they get lucky at the right time.
1109  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling all about luck? on: November 28, 2023, 04:44:53 PM
There is no problem if you feel like trying your luck with gambling, the truth is some gambler do win money here and there with gambling, you can be lucky, sorry if many gamblers on here are making gambling to be scary, the problem is many of them took gambling as their only source of income.

If something is based on luck 🎲 you should understand that it's possible to lose money, and if you don't want to feel sad about this it's better to use only what you can afford to lose, this can't be really that hard.

Some people still gamble in a casino for hours looking to getting lucky, but they end up going back home with nothing, if it's a bad day for you there is nothing you can do to turn it around and if you start winning your games, it's better to take your wins and quit the casino.
In gambling, there are only two possibilities, winning and losing, so those who want to gamble must be aware of this and not expect too much to win. Some gamblers can win some dollars, but many also lose from gambling, so instead of gambling, they continue gambling. Indeed, gambling depends on luck, so gamblers don't need to be too serious about gambling.

If they choose sports betting, they must have the skills to analyze the matches to be able to choose teams or players who have a greater chance of winning. But it will come back to their luck because the results can not always match their analysis. But if it is a luck-based gambling game, you really need luck to win.
1110  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have your own casino. on: November 28, 2023, 04:18:41 PM
It's really enticing to build your own casino especially if you have the resources to do so. Gambling industry has been booming ever since and it was at its peak specifically during the pandemic. While it is profitable, it has its risks as well so it's really important to know your plans, organize it well, and execute it with caution. Having impulsive decisions on building a business could cost you big time. So careful consideration is really essential to have a sustainable business. Long term goal has to be looked up to as well, and not only the short term.
In the long term, having an online casino is still a promising business because there is a possibility that many businesses will start switching to online services. With the development of internet technology going in an even better direction, many businesses are trying to shift their business online to be able to reach more consumers. With the internet, they can get consumers from many countries, so this provides an opportunity to make even bigger profits. And yes, the recent pandemic opened the way for companies to develop their business via the internet network. And if we can have a lot of money, we can create our own casino so that we can get lots of consumers who will gamble, and that will provide benefits for us.
1111  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tips on staying responsible. on: November 28, 2023, 03:47:52 PM
Having that knowledge and having the right mindset when you are already inside gives you the chance to stay or to keep your composure,  as knowing the risk and still continuing your participation will give you lesser chances of becoming addicted,  if you know and understand everything,  you can control and be responsible enough to avoid addiction.
We know the basic fundamentals of the system, some of us derived joy in ruining our plans unexpectedly, when we continue to gamble without any plans for proper entry, just triggering positions because we just wany to win, we forgets that there's existence of serious hardwork, because we're easily moved by what we see, talking about what we see, I mean we're more open to gambling and it consumed the higher portions of our activities and mind. There are numerous tips to stay on the lane of been a responsible gambler in the system. We're not here to make accounts for losses, rather we're here to milk the system.
However, we must be able to be responsible and control ourselves while gambling so that we don't get addicted. Many people have lost their responsibilities while gambling until they end up gambling too often and not controlling themselves. It was a big mistake for them because they didn't remember what their purpose was in gambling and what they had to be able to gamble safely. Yes, we are easily moved and tempted by what we see, but if we have responsibility, self-control, and so on, we can definitely take good care of ourselves. We can also prevent ourselves from gambling excessively.
1112  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would You Crowdfund for a Gambler Who Has Gambled Irresponsibly? on: November 28, 2023, 03:14:55 PM
That's why I mentioned that there's a thin line when answering this question, as it's a highly complicated matter. There's a reason someone becomes addicted, whether it's alcohol, gambling, painkillers, you name it. There's always a deeper reason behind someone's behavior. You don't suddenly wake up one day and decide to start blowing your money at a casino.

You're seeking a way out, possibly out of your mental health issues, such as depression, social anxiety, stress, or other issues that are preventing you from living. It's not as simple as we name it, you're looking for ways to numb the pain you're experiencing, it's a getaway. Unfortunately, we're too quick to make assumptions and point the finger at people who are showing signs that indicate they might be battling with something greater. It always starts with something else, but we're always focusing on the tree, not the forest.
It is because of this that not only the addiction itself must be treated, but the reasons that made someone to take that path to begin with should be treated as well, because if this is not done then even if a person could leave their addiction behind then at some point they will go back to their old ways or even develop a new addiction.

However this is not very common as rehabilitation centers simply do not have the resources to do this, and it is often up to the former addicted to figure out this critical step and improve on their own.
They should be able to realize that to solve their problems, they do not need to use gambling but must find a way so that they are no longer stressed or frustrated. If they take it out on gambling, it will only make the problem bigger because if someone does not have self-control in gambling, they will experience losing money and become addicted to gambling. If they bring the problem to gambling, it will not solve the problem, but they will get another problem, which may be even more complicated.

And using gambling as entertainment when we are having problems is not a good solution. We should calm ourselves down while looking for a solution or telling other people about it so we can get ideas for overcoming the problems we face. We also won't lose money from gambling because we don't use gambling to solve problems.
1113  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling game is not good and everyone should stay away from it on: November 28, 2023, 02:52:20 PM
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Gambling is not as bad as people are marking it to be, gambling it's just there as an activity to be involved in and whatever and however you make it all depends on you the person. There are gamblers that you when you check their character and gambling behaviour you will be moved to want to be a gambler too (that's if you are at the time not a gambler) buy there are others that their gambling character is displeasure due to how they abuse the game of gambling turning to addicts losing self control to gambling, and a whole lot of people that behaves in this despicable behavior are mainly with no job or any form of a source of income that's why they enmeshed themselves into gambling acting out of control.
If many people could consider gambling as an activity that provides entertainment, they would not experience gambling addiction. Unfortunately, many people cannot use gambling as entertainment and end up experiencing gambling addiction, where they lose control of themselves when gambling. They forget that gambling is entertainment, should not use a lot of money to gamble, and should not gamble too often. They abuse gambling to make money, even though that is not the purpose of gambling there. But if there are people who think gambling is not good, they should not approach gambling and look for other activities that can provide entertainment for them. This is a precaution they can take so they don't experience problems or become addicted to gambling.
1114  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever been a gambling addict? on: November 28, 2023, 02:27:01 PM
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They know that there's something has changed already and when they become addicted it is noticeable. But what they are trying to do is they're not accepting and admitting the fact that something has already changed because everyone who is in in denial stage will do every justification for what they do to believe what they want to believe.
Yes, that's true because they are covered by their desire to gamble, so they can't see the reality that they are addicted to gambling. If they stay like that, maybe their gambling addiction will get worse so that no one will be able to help them unless they can wake up and ask other people for help. The denial will always be there because they think they are okay and still gamble within their limits, but their limits have changed drastically when they become addicted to gambling. This is what all gamblers must be aware of because if our limits have started to change, we must immediately check ourselves and make adjustments. If necessary, we must immediately stop gambling for a while.

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But it's true that it is dangerous, whether they are aware of it or not. When it's come to that point that they don't want to change what they have noticed is going to impact their lives. We know a lot of stories from gamblers that have changed their lives and way of living due to the fact that they are already addicted and even they are going through that phase, they don't want to set back themselves and change what they have used to do for it.

They have to deal with more serious problems when the time that there's no one is on their side to help. Because if these addicted gamblers have already asked for others help and they don't do something about it, they're just wasting people's time for it and they will eventually get tired to help them get out of addiction.
When someone starts to feel comfortable with what he is doing, he will not want to change and move into the discomfort zone because that will cause him to experience disturbance. Whether it is a mental or physical disorder, what is clear is that they feel that it is uncomfortable for them, and they want to return to their comfort zone again. It requires a strong effort to be able to move from a comfort zone to an uncomfortable zone, even though that is what is needed to be able to reduce gambling activities.

They will only develop a worse gambling addiction, and no one will know because they don't tell anyone else. But when the frustration and stress have reached its peak, and there are people around him who are aware of it, then the person who is addicted to gambling will open up little by little and start telling him what happened to him.

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Maybe what really makes people to easily become an addicted gambler is when they start winning, how? Because I have seen some addicted gamblers, although, I have not listened to their stories but I seriously believed that what attracts them to gamble more even when they are losing is how they might have won before or presently.
The only way of an addicted gambler to stop gamble or reduce the way he or she is gambling is by not given much attentions or any attention to anything that has to do with bets.
When they start winning, greed will come to them and whisper attractive words, which will ultimately make them tempted to continue gambling even though they have already told themselves not to continue gambling. But because they didn't immediately leave the casino after the win and instead visited another page of the casino, they finally chose to gamble on another game. They said it was just one more time, and they were done gambling. But the reality is that they are drawn deeper into the gambling game and choose to continue gambling while greed laughs when they finally fall for the temptation. That is what makes gamblers who have won lose control of themselves in gambling, and instead of withdrawing their winnings, they use it to gamble and say they will really stop gambling after getting another big win. But what happens is that they experience loss until they end up having to lose their winnings.
1115  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How discipline are you in managing your bankroll? on: November 28, 2023, 02:04:36 PM
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Continuing to practice such kind of discipline will allow you to avoid making big mistakes and lose a lot, experienced help if you take it seriously and by practicing it during the actual gambling participation, not just by words but by actions that will really give you that prevention to make that mistake and leave the casino with big regret behind.

You are the one who's controlling yourself, it's on you and how you will take that knowledge and use it as basis while playing /betting in the game.
That's true because practicing discipline in gambling at least gives us the opportunity to prevent problems from happening, and we also know what we have to do. If there are still gamblers who cannot learn good discipline, they should immediately leave gambling for a while while learning discipline so that later they will not get into any problems. We have to take care of ourselves, especially when using money to gamble, and we must not lose a lot of money just because of gambling.

And if we have good discipline, it will benefit us so that we don't spend the money in one day but we can use it on another day. This discipline is very necessary; even though there are still many gamblers who underestimate it, we don't need to follow them because when gambling, we have to be responsible for our money and ourselves.

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Like my previous statement, learning is always a good thing for a change and improvement but the problem is "Whether or not" is always about it, because it's useless if they just talk without taking any action to encourage the change to really happen, honestly for this problem is out of my control because only they know about when they have to be really serious in their changes, if indeed you are just talking nonsense it doesn't matter because however and any impact only you will feel it. Yes it's possible, sometimes maturity can also push them a little to reach the level of consciousness, if that's true it means they only have to wait for time to reach that consciousness slowly.

We must understand that getting out of the gambling zone or even addiction is not as easy as turning the palm of the hand, therefore it is quite impossible in my opinion for anyone to be able to recover completely in a short time, therefore simply if you already have the intention to get out of gambling activities then you must start trying to reduce it from now on so that in the next few months or even years you will be able to feel completely uninterested in gambling. So the point is true that they must be able to apply discipline and responsibility from now on to make it happen.
What is important is that there is awareness and action to do what they say so that they can really change their gambling habits so that there will be no problems whatsoever. Change is necessary, especially if the change is in a better direction than if we previously gambled carelessly. By having discipline in managing the budget for gambling, we can save the money from being spent in one day because we can save it and use it for another day. This is related to the level of maturity because someone who already understands that gambling is entertainment will not use gambling beyond its limits.

Getting out of the gambling zone requires a lot of effort, especially for those who have been gambling frequently for a long time. They must be able to overcome their desire to gamble, and perhaps by finding other activities, they can reduce their gambling activities so that they will not gamble too often. And our improved discipline will give us the opportunity to reduce gambling activities and focus more on doing other things. And when we can do that, we won't just stick to gambling to get pleasure because there are many pleasures that we may not have done or gotten.
1116  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: November 28, 2023, 01:37:15 PM
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It is true that you say that, pursuing victory will only be a burden for themselves and become a thought that is difficult to get rid of because it is attached and made as their main goal. The point of pleasure that may be difficult to find because of the pursuit of victory, by gambling that does not aim to get pleasure but to pursue victory it will only make problems for those who will experience it, because the victory that never gets with the defeat that only gets that makes them upset and continue to want to take revenge to pursue victory that can cover the defeat that has occurred will torment and lose them from many things, especially money, time, health. They should be able to gamble with the limits set to avoid things that are not wanted, but if they still insist like that, it will be difficult to advise them that what they are doing is wrong.

There may be no one to forbid it, but maybe family members will give a little warning, but it can still be ignored. By gambling in the middle of the night, they have the opportunity to gamble for a long time if they do not have the self-control to limit their gambling. But everyone knows that gambling can make a person forget about many things, because the sensation displayed by the game can make them lulled to continue gambling, in my opinion few people have strong control to be able to limit their gambling time. Sometimes even someone who has self-control will feel annoyed by gambling that always loses especially in the middle of the night, it is very vulnerable to increasing their emotions which makes them want to continue gambling, my advice is that if they really have good self-control they should know the time to gamble by not doing it in the middle of the night which could interfere with their rest time, even if the next day they don't have a busy schedule it's better to rest with enough time so that nothing happens to their own health.
And when the burden becomes large because of their desire to pursue victory or recover from their losses, the burden ultimately makes them increasingly frustrated and stressed because they cannot get what they want. This is what we have to be aware of because by trying to do these things, we can get deeper into gambling and risk a gambling addiction that we might not be able to imagine. Moreover, continuing to gamble can result in bigger losses for us, so that we will forget to limit our budget for gambling even though we have already limited our budget. That's where we have to realize that we have actually lost self-control and really need help from other people to help us solve the problems we face. By having these problems, it will be difficult for us to stop gambling because we will not recognize or realize that we actually have a gambling addiction that has become quite severe. If we don't immediately realize it, the gambling addiction will get bigger, and we will have difficulty curing the gambling addiction.

I worry about someone who gambles in the middle of the night because he should be able to rest at night, but instead, he gambles where if he forgets to stop gambling, he can continue gambling until morning and end up not sleeping all night. If he does things like that continuously and doesn't get enough rest or sleep at night, his health will be disturbed, and he will become susceptible to disease. In contrast, if he is sick, all his daily activities will definitely be disrupted. He will not be free to do anything because he is still sick and needs to heal himself from his illness first. Other problems must be considered. Apart from physical pain, he can also experience mental pain due to frustration, stress, and depression due to losing from gambling. It will make him want to recover his losses, and at that time, he will start to experience gambling addiction.


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I would like to correct a little bit, I didn't say psychiatrist or psychology. Because as far as I know psychiatrists are doctors, while psychologists are psychologists.
Is the isolation you are referring to quarantine? If that's the case, maybe what you suggest can be done for those with serious addictions, by forcing them to realize their self-destructive behavior and actually many things can be done to awaken someone who is addicted to gambling, it's just that those who are severely addicted cannot accept input, advice from people so they themselves lead into serious healing. The family has an important role in this, because no matter what state they are in, the family will definitely accept it if they want to change for the better, also of course they will provide the best support to encourage them to change for the better. Even though the healing process is painful for them if they really want to change, they will definitely do it, even if it takes a long time they will definitely do it, because it should be everyone who is addicted to something that is not good, they should be able to leave their bad habits, it is also impossible for them to continue to be addicted to old age which will certainly harm them even though they have a lot of money, there is nothing wrong with dying of addictions that harm themselves.
For addiction problems, psychiatrists or doctors are both helpful, so it's just a matter of spelling wrongly, but we know the meaning is the same. Sorry if I spelled it wrong, but I meant people who deal with addiction problems. A psychiatrist or psychologist could treat them.

Carrying out quarantine for people who are seriously addicted to gambling will probably be done like people who are seriously addicted to drugs. It depends on how severe the level of addiction is. A doctor or, psychologist or someone who is an expert in treating addiction problems will see how severe the level of addiction is before they start carrying out healing therapy. If their addiction is still within normal limits, perhaps they will not be quarantined because they are still aware of themselves and their surroundings. But for the therapy process, it would be better if his family accompanied him so that he could see that he was not fighting alone but that he had his family who continued to accompany him and provide encouragement for him. It could be that the healing process will be very painful for a person with an addiction because they have to try to fight their addiction so they can recover and change and get back to their normal life.

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Yes, that's right, by telling what he experienced to other people and asking for advice and solutions to overcome the problems that occurred, maybe they can provide solutions to overcome his problems and also provide a way out, so if it's like that, it's just how someone does it and don't forget to consider it so that nothing else happens. Of course, if it affects other people it is very unnatural, because other people who don't know anything but are affected. Naturally, they themselves must accept the impact of what they have done themselves. It is indeed difficult to find their point of consciousness, because their thoughts are already filled with their addiction that makes their thoughts not think of anything else, not to mention that they have a stubborn nature which is certainly not happy if advised by others by not being able to accept themselves being advised, even though other people who advise them are not just lip service but for their good too. Maybe it's true what you said, they have to feel something so big or whatever it is that can make them realize by themselves. If indeed other people cannot make them aware then there is no more solution except for them themselves who must be aware of their wrong behavior that has also made themselves lose themselves.
At least by telling other people about the problems they are facing it can make them feel relieved, and they can find a solution because by meeting other people, someone who is addicted might be able to get ideas for reducing their gambling addiction. Perhaps he has not been able to cure his gambling addiction. However, he has ideas that can help him to reduce the level of his gambling addiction, and it is really necessary to try so that he can see how far he can reduce the level of his gambling addiction. Indeed, it will have an impact on his life, but by knowing that there is a solution he can get from sharing with others about his problem, he can see that he can actually still reduce the level of his gambling addiction with help from other people.
But it is difficult to open the insight and mind of someone who is addicted to gambling, especially those who have been gambling for a long time, because they need to realize the mistakes they have made, admit them, and try to reduce and cure them. With help from other people, they can get something useful so they can try to reduce the level of their gambling addiction.
1117  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Two Carreer skill benefit of gambling on: November 28, 2023, 01:14:58 PM
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We often forget how daily interactions, especially in casinos, build our social and cognitive skills. Casinos are full of risk, reward, and human behavior. It's amazing how one can educate us about probability, decision-making, and emotional control. Casinos can improve talents, but do they promote positive social skills? Casinos are meant to evoke strong emotions and calculated risks. Instead of improving social skills, may this atmosphere promote transactional, even opportunistic behavior? Limiting oneself and accepting losses are crucial life skills. The question is whether gambling's unpredictability and focus on money really promote sensible financial conduct. Gamblers often get caught up in the thrill of what if, ignoring financial preparedness. Can we be responsible in an environment founded on uncertainty? Do we need to tread carefully in this strange situation?
Perhaps some people can change or improve their skills so they can socialize better through gambling, but some people don't because they are influenced by what is in the casino, so instead of being able to improve their skills, they fall into gambling. But it is true that casinos are meant to evoke strong emotions and have risks that must be taken into account by each gambler, so each gambler must realize that they need self-control when gambling in casinos. But when there are people who visit casinos and gamble and have the intention to use gambling as entertainment and a place to make new friends, maybe they will get something useful from visiting the casino. That is why we really need strong self-control so that we can avoid the temptations in casinos and avoid the desire to gamble excessively. Once we get our goal, we will leave the casino because we have got what we were looking for.

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All of that will be really useful or we can feel the benefits and wisdom if we bring the right goals, it is true that if we look at the positive aspects then maybe we will have  many new friends there. Of course, everyone has their own freedom to choose what alternatives or intermediaries they will make as a place to build good socialization with others. For myself, to be honest, if I have never known about gambling and if I have to choose, maybe I will prefer other alternatives which certainly do not have the risk of the possibility of things that are not wanted such as the bad effects of gambling.

It is likely that I would prefer other places such as for example a gym, karoke or other fun places that do not have long-term risks but can still get positive impacts such as one of them building good social relationships with other people. So the bottom line is that only they can choose it, I can't force them to choose something better, and maybe I would just hope that if you do choose gambling then you must be able to manage  everything well, especially applying self-control and some other limits so that you stay safe and don't end up with addiction.
You are right in what you say because it all comes back to our purpose of going to the casino and how we can achieve what we want. But if our desires change when we gamble, we are no longer trying to get positive benefits from gambling but will instead get negative impacts from gambling because we have lost a few dollars. We will not think about making friends from the casino, but we will think about how we can get money from the casino, so we will only try once we can get money. Actually, we can continue gambling as long as we can control ourselves well because that is one of the keys to avoiding problems in casinos.

Perhaps you need to leave the casino for a while so you can take a break from gambling and also improve your social relations with the people around you. They will choose it, and hopefully, they won't choose the wrong path by making gambling a place to make money instead of wanting to use gambling as a way to make some new friends who might become business buddies.
1118  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Winning Wisely: Strategies to Protect Your Bankroll on: November 28, 2023, 12:46:04 PM
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Our underlying nature makes 'just one more game' appealing. The excitement of uncertainty and random rewards motivate. Your plan and self-regulation point is crucial here. Setting time and money limits - a practical test or a test of willpower and self-awareness? Recognizing risks and the games' design to appeal to our senses protects us against losses. Gambling discipline is illogical but vital. We bet for fun, but addiction is possible. This contradiction makes your plan vital. How does gambling fit into our lifestyle? A harmless diversion or a sneaky trap? We protect our economic and mental and emotional health by creating and following boundaries. You say discipline is about understanding and mastering our brains, not only resisting temptation. Didn't that win mean more than any table win?
And it's that "just one more game" that ultimately makes us forget to stop gambling and will continue gambling until we actually lose a lot of money. We often underestimate the sentence above by saying that we will only gamble one more game. However, in reality, we don't even stop because we are still trying to chase victory or recover from losses. As long as we can control ourselves when gambling, I don't think we will experience any problems, and we can even enjoy gambling as entertainment and stop on time. That's because we don't have any intentions towards gambling and only use gambling as entertainment that requires money.
Meanwhile, if we win, it is just a bonus for us because we are lucky, and we don't need to chase other wins. Gambling may be suitable as a lifestyle for some people but not for most people, especially for those who do not have good self-control because they may fall into gambling. So we have to protect our budget for gambling and not gamble excessively.
1119  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: November 27, 2023, 05:15:08 PM
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And what they do like that is wrong, making gambling a source of money is not right, as you said at the beginning it is better to gamble to relieve stress or to look for sensations, not more than that. If they gamble for the reason of wanting to multiply their money it is a big mistake, which is where it is the beginning for them to become addicted because when they don't have enough money and gamble with the end result of losing it will only increase their emotions which make them want to play again with the aim of recovering the money they have lost. That's what will happen if they have the principle of doubling money with gambling.
Gambling has a tremendous attraction that can attract anyone who plays it, because it is the rule of any gambling, by attracting everyone to gamble by making them deeper and deeper to continue gambling and making them spend a lot of money on gambling which will make a profit for the bookie who plays the role of host.
We should use gambling as a way to relieve stress after daily activities and not to add burden and stress to us. But that's what happens to people who come to gambling and say they want to relieve stress. But in reality, they actually increase their stress because they experience consecutive losses. In fact, when that losing streak comes, it is code that they need to get away from gambling immediately before things change for the worse, and they won't be able to deal with it. Unfortunately, most gamblers don't pay attention to this and instead continue gambling even though they have experienced a lot of losing streaks. Having a reason to gamble because you want to multiply your money is also a fatal mistake because gambling is not a place to make money. They will only experience losses that can waste all their money instead of being able to make money from gambling. Many people are so tempted by gambling that they even abandon their routine activities just because they want to gamble longer. Actually, it is not good for them because they will have the opportunity to experience gambling addiction, which can become worse. If they don't come to their senses soon, they will just continue gambling and will deposit more money.
1120  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling game is not good and everyone should stay away from it on: November 27, 2023, 05:01:46 PM
I can't deny that there are huge numbers of people who involve themselves in gambling and ruin his life including his family by keep losing all the money they have. They inject more money in gambling so that they could recover what they lost but they keep losing continuesly and at a time, they have no money to buy things they need even during emergency situation. Thats why if you can't control gambling that isn't for you. Honestly here in this forum, most of gamblers who discussion about gambling, have main source of income. Even they earn from bounties & signature and become responsible person during gambling. But I don't recommend gambling the person who is always out mind during gambling
People like that seem to have a gambling addiction that they don't realize. In his mind, he only wanted to gamble and didn't want to do anything else, so if he weren't cured soon, he would end up with an even worse gambling addiction. They will not be able to recover their losses from gambling because gambling is not a place to make money but only for fun. But they gamble not to win the game but to satisfy their desire to gamble. It's like those who play video games and don't want to do anything else and only focus on playing video games to reach the highest level. We will not recommend gambling to people who cannot be responsible for themselves while gambling because it could harm them too. But there are still many people who want to gamble because they can find online crypto casino sites and fiat casinos easily on the internet. And that makes them visit the casino site more often than before because they find something that makes them curious. This must be prevented immediately by limiting his gambling activities. Otherwise, he will regret seeing that his money has been used up because of gambling.
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