Would You Crowdfund for a Gambler Who Has Gambled Irresponsibly?

[Taskford]

A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

The counter question is "Why we should"? Knowing the truth that he is an irresponsible gambler, he doesn't deserve support from us and from the community, he should have carried his own gambling journey alone. Could we think an irresponsible gambler would change and have the intention to do that? I don't think so. I'd rather gamble than give my money to someone that we know he can't handle and manage himself. Because after he has the money, he will forget those promises and the people who gave him.

They choose to be in worst situation so they need to face what they are facing on since that is what the consequences of wrong decisions they made. Also its not good to crowdfund for a gambler since he or she is not really worth the help since he could decide for his self to avoid to experience the worst but he decide to go and risk all the money he have.

 I also rather gamble the money I have than helping people to became more lazy or irresponsible so I can enjoy it even if I lose.

And I'm sure that after he get's help from people he will go back to gambling once he get another fund to spend. This type of people will not learn so they need to experience the downside of the actions they have done.

[slapper]

There's usually a thin line before answering this kind of question, as it varies depending on the occasion and the reason for the said crowdfunding. On the one hand, I'd say that it's irresponsible to become bankrupt due to gambling; you're addicted and need professional help. This doesn't apply only to gambling but to anything that occurs in excess, such as compulsive shopping and so on. Personally, I'd rather not help someone who brought this on themselves, but on the other hand, some other serious issues might be underlying that led to the state that he needs to ask for crowdfunding. Thus, in my opinion, we shouldn't be too quick to judge, as there might be some serious conditions, such as medical, and the dire need for money led them to such compulsive behavior. Would it be justified? Certainly not, but we can't judge until we're in their shoes.

If there's any serious medical condition that's why a gambler need to ask crowdfunding, it is better to explain and elaborate it first or seek medical advice from the experts. In that way, maybe people will help him, But if the reason is about being an irresponsible gambler,  don't expect them to help you. I get it
that it depends on the occasion and reason, If a person loses money in gambling in multiple times to the point that their physical and mental health is at stake, meaning there's really  something wrong, he needs to know in himself that something is wrong and he needs to stop whatever is the reason why he is experiencing this.

Even brilliant individuals fall for this psychological deception. Why should we only ask for crowdfunding? Isnt it about recognizing a serious issue? Gamblers screaming for aid, whether due to health issues or overspending, are asking for help. Avoid labeling them "irresponsible gamblers." In addition to losing money, lives are falling apart. Instead of contempt, we should provide systematic assistance. We must peel back layers to understand mental health and gaming.

Self-realization is crucial. The gambler must face their situation, but isnt it complicated psychologically? "Knowing something is wrong and stopping" doesnt describe profound addiction. Gambling uses the brain's reward system to give consumers a false sensation of control and near-misses that keep them hooked. Professionals must repair many cognitive errors that go beyond grit. Instead of shame, shouldnt society encourage people to seek help? Stopping goes beyond stopping. Understand why and how to stop. Can we overlook this while judging quickly?

[m2017]

A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

Never gamble (or invest in cryptocurrencies or securities) with borrowed money or other money "meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing".

No mercy donations or financial support for gamblers. All their risks and losses lie solely on their shoulders and under their personal responsibility.

If someone wants to help such losers gamblers, then this is their personal right. No one has the right to say anything to such donators, because this concerns only the donator and the gambler.

[Accardo]

If there's any serious medical condition that's why a gambler need to ask crowdfunding, it is better to explain and elaborate it first or seek medical advice from the experts. In that way, maybe people will help him, But if the reason is about being an irresponsible gambler,  don't expect them to help you. I get it
that it depends on the occasion and reason, If a person loses money in gambling in multiple times to the point that their physical and mental health is at stake, meaning there's really  something wrong, he needs to know in himself that something is wrong and he needs to stop whatever is the reason why he is experiencing this.

Even brilliant individuals fall for this psychological deception. Why should we only ask for crowdfunding? Isnt it about recognizing a serious issue? Gamblers screaming for aid, whether due to health issues or overspending, are asking for help. Avoid labeling them "irresponsible gamblers." In addition to losing money, lives are falling apart. Instead of contempt, we should provide systematic assistance. We must peel back layers to understand mental health and gaming.

Self-realization is crucial. The gambler must face their situation, but isnt it complicated psychologically? "Knowing something is wrong and stopping" doesnt describe profound addiction. Gambling uses the brain's reward system to give consumers a false sensation of control and near-misses that keep them hooked. Professionals must repair many cognitive errors that go beyond grit. Instead of shame, shouldnt society encourage people to seek help? Stopping goes beyond stopping. Understand why and how to stop. Can we overlook this while judging quickly?

The recovery process is quite difficult for the addicted person. And because they need to hide it from the society, they end up swimming in the pool of addiction. The condemnations they get from people, when they try to show the world their problems, keeps them in depression. Friends and family careless about the problems this addicts go through, that's why it's hard to survive such a problem. In the process of trying to show the society the aspect they want to see. The gambler's addiction will be left untreated. Thereby exposing the player to bigger risks of addiction. Right, even when the money is given to them, they won't know what next to do, other than gambling. Why then do people blame them, if we can think deeply, it's common to understand that these things ain't done outrightly. The hidden processes that led to the bad behavior, grew out of the fear of what people would say. After discovering that they're now addicted to gambling, the brain would deceive them not to open up, that they can settle it on their own.

[wallet4bitcoin]

Loads of things will make me crowdfund for a gambler

Firstly, has the gambler been sober. Has he come to his senses that gambling isn't a way of life.
Does the person have the ability to say a thing and stick to it irrespective of challenges associated with it.

Imagine if the person isn't sober, crowdfunding for him will be just a disaster to your Name, Person and Reputation

[tjtonmoy]

Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

Of course not. If he had already gambled irresponsibly and lost everything, that only tells us that he is already an addict. And we know what happens with addicts if they ever get the same opportunity. Things would be different if he had gone through therapy and is now a normal person. If not, I am not going to give anything. He had his chance and he already blew it up.
The moment he gets the money, he will try to win back what he lost and may try to make some profit out of it by gambling. It is a risky move. Maybe you helping him with money could lead to him starting gambling again. And I don't want to be a part of that.

To those who will donate/help that guy out of empathy, don't do it. Maybe you are doing it for a good purpose but it could turn out quite the opposite.

[Ever-young]

A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

And what's the guarantee that after donating and giving him the money he wouldn't use it to gamble again?
There are some things one shouldn't do, I like to help people in my own little way, but not when the help won't amount t anything. If I have a friend who's lost money that's meant for something else to gambling and he reaches out to me for help, honestly even if I have the money, I won't send it to him, but instead what I'll do is help him solve that problem that required that money directly, if it's money for school fees, I'll single handedly go ahead to pay the fees myself and avod giving him the money directly, because he might just have the thought of multiplying that money and decides to go gamble again and still throw it away, that way you'll regret ever helping him with the money. So it's better to help the person solve the problem and not to give him the money to go solve the problem himself. Because loosing money that's meant for something else means he's irresponsible and lacks self control when it coms to gambling and such a person can't be trusted with money.

[Accardo]

A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

And what's the guarantee that after donating and giving him the money he wouldn't use it to gamble again?
There are some things one shouldn't do, I like to help people in my own little way, but not when the help won't amount t anything. If I have a friend who's lost money that's meant for something else to gambling and he reaches out to me for help, honestly even if I have the money, I won't send it to him, but instead what I'll do is help him solve that problem that required that money directly, if it's money for school fees, I'll single handedly go ahead to pay the fees myself and avod giving him the money directly, because he might just have the thought of multiplying that money and decides to go gamble again and still throw it away, that way you'll regret ever helping him with the money. So it's better to help the person solve the problem and not to give him the money to go solve the problem himself. Because loosing money that's meant for something else means he's irresponsible and lacks self control when it coms to gambling and such a person can't be trusted with money.

How do you intend to do it when they're far from you? He's been tagged an irresponsible gambler, helping him with money can be risky, yet it can be life changing. It's not certain he won't gamble with the money like you said. On our side as friends or family member we'll be brooding over his actions or what he'll say about us. Most times it's not easy to neglect loved ones, even when we are sure of their bad attitude or behavior. It hurts to plunder about the struggle they're into, while we help with funds, or don't help. Whatever, the action we take on them, that's not regarding their welbeing or saving them from such a condition, won't be enough. Every family tend to have a person like that; gambling or drug addict. It's the responsibility of the family to look into different therapy to cure them. And negligence worsen their conditions, and if the family isn't comfortable with him anymore, then the society won't as well. That's a pollution to the entire wealth of the society. As he'll be unknowingly wasting funds, he'd use on other utilities, on gambling. Your idea is valid, if he's close, taking care of the expenses on his behalf can leave him only battling over becoming a better person, and restrict him from gambling at the moment. Then following up with a team work on ways to eliminate his trouble. The process matters, but within you, it'll worth it once he's fine. After that, you'd understand the huge mental disorder he was passing through. Which won't give you a reason to blame addicts, when they mishandle funds and act differently. I was once against helping addicts, both financially and otherwise, until a close friend went through and survived addiction. He told me about what he's been through. The whole stress and heartbreak isn't simple to fight, alone.

[Westinhome]

And what's the guarantee that after donating and giving him the money he wouldn't use it to gamble again?
There are some things one shouldn't do, I like to help people in my own little way, but not when the help won't amount t anything. If I have a friend who's lost money that's meant for something else to gambling and he reaches out to me for help, honestly even if I have the money, I won't send it to him, but instead what I'll do is help him solve that problem that required that money directly, if it's money for school fees, I'll single handedly go ahead to pay the fees myself and avod giving him the money directly, because he might just have the thought of multiplying that money and decides to go gamble again and still throw it away, that way you'll regret ever helping him with the money. So it's better to help the person solve the problem and not to give him the money to go solve the problem himself. Because loosing money that's meant for something else means he's irresponsible and lacks self control when it coms to gambling and such a person can't be trusted with money.

The gambler had the chance of both win and lose option,So helping the gambler for the gambling will not be the better option.If you know him well or if they had the assets thrice of your money giving value,then you can offer the loan.So if the gambler had loss the game,he will short your loan using their holding assets.Being the gambler I will recommend the gambler to get loan for the gambling,because we should need to pay for the loss if occured in the gambling sites.The risk in the gambling was worth of it.But if the gambler take the loan,it will be unwanted risk for the game.So the gambler use their own money for the gambling will keep him the pressure less game.

[Webetcoins]

There's usually a thin line before answering this kind of question, as it varies depending on the occasion and the reason for the said crowdfunding. On the one hand, I'd say that it's irresponsible to become bankrupt due to gambling; you're addicted and need professional help. This doesn't apply only to gambling but to anything that occurs in excess, such as compulsive shopping and so on. Personally, I'd rather not help someone who brought this on themselves, but on the other hand, some other serious issues might be underlying that led to the state that he needs to ask for crowdfunding. Thus, in my opinion, we shouldn't be too quick to judge, as there might be some serious conditions, such as medical, and the dire need for money led them to such compulsive behavior. Would it be justified? Certainly not, but we can't judge until we're in their shoes.

I can't help but agree with what you said. I'm completely against people who spend money that is supposed to be used for something else in gambling and then when they lose it, they start crying and whining and saying that they are in dire need of money for whatever reason it is, they shouldn't have gambled with it in the first place even if they did it because they needed more money and they thought they can get that from gambling because they should have known that gambling is not a way to make guaranteed money and you shouldn't risk money that is very important in gambling.

However, as you said, if you witness with your own eyes that the person is in need of money for something like an emergency medical condition or anything else that needs to be taken care of as soon as possible, it might melt your heart and you decide to do it but you should still not give the money once collected to the gambler but pay it straight for the cause.

[Hispo]

There's usually a thin line before answering this kind of question, as it varies depending on the occasion and the reason for the said crowdfunding. On the one hand, I'd say that it's irresponsible to become bankrupt due to gambling; you're addicted and need professional help. This doesn't apply only to gambling but to anything that occurs in excess, such as compulsive shopping and so on. Personally, I'd rather not help someone who brought this on themselves, but on the other hand, some other serious issues might be underlying that led to the state that he needs to ask for crowdfunding. Thus, in my opinion, we shouldn't be too quick to judge, as there might be some serious conditions, such as medical, and the dire need for money led them to such compulsive behavior. Would it be justified? Certainly not, but we can't judge until we're in their shoes.

I can't help but agree with what you said. I'm completely against people who spend money that is supposed to be used for something else in gambling and then when they lose it, they start crying and whining and saying that they are in dire need of money for whatever reason it is, they shouldn't have gambled with it in the first place even if they did it because they needed more money and they thought they can get that from gambling because they should have known that gambling is not a way to make guaranteed money and you shouldn't risk money that is very important in gambling.

However, as you said, if you witness with your own eyes that the person is in need of money for something like an emergency medical condition or anything else that needs to be taken care of as soon as possible, it might melt your heart and you decide to do it but you should still not give the money once collected to the gambler but pay it straight for the cause.

It reminds me a case which was discussed here in the gambling section some weeks ago about a woman (I think she is from Nigeria) who streamed herself placing some sportbets. I assume she was very confident on her luck because otherwise, I would not understand how she thought streaming herself like that would be a good idea.
In the end, she lost all of her wager and what it was supposed to be a celebration and bragging streaming, turned into a pitiful display of tears and crying...
I try not to judge those who fall victim of their own greed and end up lamenting their choices, because I personally believe that most human beings can easily find themselves in a similar situation, leaving greed to take over.

[Ultegra134]

Even brilliant individuals fall for this psychological deception. Why should we only ask for crowdfunding? Isnt it about recognizing a serious issue? Gamblers screaming for aid, whether due to health issues or overspending, are asking for help. Avoid labeling them "irresponsible gamblers." In addition to losing money, lives are falling apart. Instead of contempt, we should provide systematic assistance. We must peel back layers to understand mental health and gaming.

Self-realization is crucial. The gambler must face their situation, but isnt it complicated psychologically? "Knowing something is wrong and stopping" doesnt describe profound addiction. Gambling uses the brain's reward system to give consumers a false sensation of control and near-misses that keep them hooked. Professionals must repair many cognitive errors that go beyond grit. Instead of shame, shouldnt society encourage people to seek help? Stopping goes beyond stopping. Understand why and how to stop. Can we overlook this while judging quickly?

That's why I mentioned that there's a thin line when answering this question, as it's a highly complicated matter. There's a reason someone becomes addicted, whether it's alcohol, gambling, painkillers, you name it. There's always a deeper reason behind someone's behavior. You don't suddenly wake up one day and decide to start blowing your money at a casino.

You're seeking a way out, possibly out of your mental health issues, such as depression, social anxiety, stress, or other issues that are preventing you from living. It's not as simple as we name it, you're looking for ways to numb the pain you're experiencing, it's a getaway. Unfortunately, we're too quick to make assumptions and point the finger at people who are showing signs that indicate they might be battling with something greater. It always starts with something else, but we're always focusing on the tree, not the forest.

[wxa7115]

That's why I mentioned that there's a thin line when answering this question, as it's a highly complicated matter. There's a reason someone becomes addicted, whether it's alcohol, gambling, painkillers, you name it. There's always a deeper reason behind someone's behavior. You don't suddenly wake up one day and decide to start blowing your money at a casino.

You're seeking a way out, possibly out of your mental health issues, such as depression, social anxiety, stress, or other issues that are preventing you from living. It's not as simple as we name it, you're looking for ways to numb the pain you're experiencing, it's a getaway. Unfortunately, we're too quick to make assumptions and point the finger at people who are showing signs that indicate they might be battling with something greater. It always starts with something else, but we're always focusing on the tree, not the forest.

It is because of this that not only the addiction itself must be treated, but the reasons that made someone to take that path to begin with should be treated as well, because if this is not done then even if a person could leave their addiction behind then at some point they will go back to their old ways or even develop a new addiction.

However this is not very common as rehabilitation centers simply do not have the resources to do this, and it is often up to the former addicted to figure out this critical step and improve on their own.

[pinggoki]

I think people are getting it easier nowadays when it comes to consequences so they do stupid stuff like this one and then try to make it everyone's problem when it's clearly their fault. If I ever come across that kind of person, I would probably laugh on their faces because they've made an avoidable mistake, why let me in on your problem? I don't even know you.

I feel like this is right but I can't necessarily agree with this, I definitely feel like some people are getting away with consequences so easily, it's not just with gambling, I think that this is a trend right now especially with social media platforms where everyone wants to be famous and so they do stupid and borderline criminal pranks and they get away with just saying that it's just a prank or something like that, I really feel good inside whenever scums that are getting their just desserts. I don't know about the laughing at them though, maybe don't do it in front of them?

"would you keep buying an alcoholic more booze" Is what I read and understand from this question.

Best analogy question for this one although I do think that any addiction would still be the same if not get much better because some alcoholics have their problem rooted in something far worse and they might see alcohol as an escape, it's not a good thing to tolerate someone who's clearly destroying themselves and are already showing signs that your help will only be appreciated because it just fuels their addiction. I do think that it's weird that people are thinking to do this kind of stuff, crowdfunding for someone who's clearly losing money already from gambling unless you want and like to watch them crash and burn, I don't see the point of funding that addiction.

Definitely not. It's like I'm being an accessory to their addiction. If I myself can't fund my own gambling activities that much, why would I fund and support someone who's been proven to be irresponsible and cannot control themselves? I can support them in some way but certainly not financially. If the person will not hold the funds directly and will only get what they need in order to recover from their addiction, perhaps I can help with that. Otherwise, I won't extend any financial help at all.

It's not "it's like", you are being an accessory to their addiction because besides tolerating it, you are also fueling them when they should've stopped a long time ago because they're not doing themselves any favor continuing to gamble. I don't think that your way of helping them is going to go the way you want it because as noble as it is, you are going to be tempting them to use that money for recovery to gamble, better if they don't see any when they're really trying to recover.

[Z390]

I don't like holding people responsible for their mistakes, everyone makes mistakes and if I have to fund a gambler it will depend on what happened after he lost all his money to gambling, did he learn some lessons already? What he plans to do from here on, everyone has their issues and difficulties, we are all trying to make a way and without mistakes it will be difficult to grow.

If he failed to learn from is irresponsible gambling then I can say no to him, most gamblers are irresponsible at first, and this is because of the problem that affected their lives, they are finding means to make a new change in their life so I don't blame anyone for trying.

Not learning from your mistake is the biggest issue here, because you will never grow, I don't like gambling too much, it's not because of anything else but I am only trying to avoid getting addicted to it, I am someone who get attached to something I do everytime, I am just trying to protect myself in a good way.

[Strongkored]

A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

No, I will not participate in raising funds for such gamblers and the community has no responsibility to help people who make such mistakes other than taking them to a therapist for treatment so that the person can get out of addiction, because people who gamble with funds are should not be used for gambling, it can be said to be an addict, because he cannot control himself, and helping by collecting funds will not give him awareness so that he can become responsible, in fact it is very possible that he will use this for his own gain, so the community should not do it apart from taking him to a therapist so he can recover.

[maydna]

That's why I mentioned that there's a thin line when answering this question, as it's a highly complicated matter. There's a reason someone becomes addicted, whether it's alcohol, gambling, painkillers, you name it. There's always a deeper reason behind someone's behavior. You don't suddenly wake up one day and decide to start blowing your money at a casino.

You're seeking a way out, possibly out of your mental health issues, such as depression, social anxiety, stress, or other issues that are preventing you from living. It's not as simple as we name it, you're looking for ways to numb the pain you're experiencing, it's a getaway. Unfortunately, we're too quick to make assumptions and point the finger at people who are showing signs that indicate they might be battling with something greater. It always starts with something else, but we're always focusing on the tree, not the forest.

It is because of this that not only the addiction itself must be treated, but the reasons that made someone to take that path to begin with should be treated as well, because if this is not done then even if a person could leave their addiction behind then at some point they will go back to their old ways or even develop a new addiction.

However this is not very common as rehabilitation centers simply do not have the resources to do this, and it is often up to the former addicted to figure out this critical step and improve on their own.

They should be able to realize that to solve their problems, they do not need to use gambling but must find a way so that they are no longer stressed or frustrated. If they take it out on gambling, it will only make the problem bigger because if someone does not have self-control in gambling, they will experience losing money and become addicted to gambling. If they bring the problem to gambling, it will not solve the problem, but they will get another problem, which may be even more complicated.

And using gambling as entertainment when we are having problems is not a good solution. We should calm ourselves down while looking for a solution or telling other people about it so we can get ideas for overcoming the problems we face. We also won't lose money from gambling because we don't use gambling to solve problems.

[Quidat]

A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

No, I will not participate in raising funds for such gamblers and the community has no responsibility to help people who make such mistakes other than taking them to a therapist for treatment so that the person can get out of addiction, because people who gamble with funds are should not be used for gambling, it can be said to be an addict, because he cannot control himself, and helping by collecting funds will not give him awareness so that he can become responsible, in fact it is very possible that he will use this for his own gain, so the community should not do it apart from taking him to a therapist so he can recover.

Just like been said that there's no sense on doing so because funding or trying to participate on a crowdfund for such addicted person, then for what? Just like been said by
others if these amounts or funds would be making use in terms of those professional expenses on trying out to assess those addicts then it might be considered but in speaking about
funding them more then it is really just that totally a different idea or the real essence on trying out to help a certain gambling on which instead of helping then it would be worsening up the
situation even more on which it is really just that having no sense just like on what i said earlier. Learning from your own mistakes is the nearest thing that you do have in mind or should
be having in mind because if you are that serious on quitting then you wont really be needing any help.

[wiss19]

I don't like holding people responsible for their mistakes, everyone makes mistakes and if I have to fund a gambler it will depend on what happened after he lost all his money to gambling, did he learn some lessons already? What he plans to do from here on, everyone has their issues and difficulties, we are all trying to make a way and without mistakes it will be difficult to grow.

If he failed to learn from is irresponsible gambling then I can say no to him, most gamblers are irresponsible at first, and this is because of the problem that affected their lives, they are finding means to make a new change in their life so I don't blame anyone for trying.

Not learning from your mistake is the biggest issue here, because you will never grow, I don't like gambling too much, it's not because of anything else but I am only trying to avoid getting addicted to it, I am someone who get attached to something I do everytime, I am just trying to protect myself in a good way.

Whether a gambler will learn from their mistake and won't repeat it next time depends if they are addicted to gambling or not. There are two types of people who make such mistakes. The first type is addicted gamblers who gets money in their hand and can't control the urge and gamble it away, and the second category is of the gamblers who are not generally addicted gamblers but they spend the money on gambling while either trying to gain more money since they need it or just because they got greedy.

If the gambler who lost everything in gambling and is asking for monetary assistance is an addicted gambler, I wouldn't want to do a crowdfunding event for them, but if the person isn't addicted but did it because they needed more money and they thought they can achieve that through gambling, I might think about it in case he is struck by an emergency.

[avp2306]

A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

No, I will not participate in raising funds for such gamblers and the community has no responsibility to help people who make such mistakes other than taking them to a therapist for treatment so that the person can get out of addiction, because people who gamble with funds are should not be used for gambling, it can be said to be an addict, because he cannot control himself, and helping by collecting funds will not give him awareness so that he can become responsible, in fact it is very possible that he will use this for his own gain, so the community should not do it apart from taking him to a therapist so he can recover.

Just like been said that there's no sense on doing so because funding or trying to participate on a crowdfund for such addicted person, then for what? Just like been said by
others if these amounts or funds would be making use in terms of those professional expenses on trying out to assess those addicts then it might be considered but in speaking about
funding them more then it is really just that totally a different idea or the real essence on trying out to help a certain gambling on which instead of helping then it would be worsening up the
situation even more on which it is really just that having no sense just like on what i said earlier. Learning from your own mistakes is the nearest thing that you do have in mind or should
be having in mind because if you are that serious on quitting then you wont really be needing any help.

He need to hold his own balls if he decide to participate on any gambling activities so there's no sense to help those crazy gamblers experiencing a huge financial loss due to their crazy decision made while betting. Its good for them to learn a valuable lesson since they will not be a better person or a responsible gambler if there's some people willing to help him up once he made a crazy decisions in life. Funding them could worsen up the situation and might would provably think about engaging it again since they are been save up by some people near him. Learning his mistake really can help so instead of giving him a money as form of help much better if he get a good advice from us or from the person they trusted the most since this could help them more.