I am not sure he really needs saving.

The chart of the historic downturn in prices is significant and 'many' here have indeed been through every day of it.

Many, however, will not agree with why the near-exponential rise of Bitcoin in 2017 ended and reversed.   Perhaps because correlation is not always evidence of causation.

And where do you short, if you don't mind - if you don't want to say, it's fine. 

I am wondering about trying the same.  I'm pretty much all in, so cannot easily buy any more drops.  Insurance might keep me amused (or at least feeling less 'passive').  I just wondered, Finex or..?

Merited. Wise words.  While catching up on this thread gradually you see how unwise and price prediction in any direction is, on any near/medium term time frame.

TA / price analysis is fun to see, but so much of it is as accurate as a stopped clock, as all we can do is to try to set up for whatever happens.  I was watching your 'short insurance' strategy, seemed to make sense - may I ask how it has panned out?  Or is it just too much work to keep on top of it?

Went away for a week, then it's taken me three weeks to catch up on the posts here.   A long way from the days when there were sometimes three Chartbuddy posts in a row...

It's impossible to stay away, though.   Even if it seems more of a home of conspiracy observation more than wall observation at times.  I do try to remember I need to be remain open to alternative views, but sometimes....

Back on topic:  That dump. Ouch.

Hey micgoossens

12288 dollar price.....  26/10/18 please?

Taking a late one, hoping for much earlier.

kurious

So now I know how FluffyPony got his nick... if not whether he was actually... fluffed in the process. Ta.

Well spotted. Respect.

Hey nano... good to see you back, and yep - keep the faith.  Hope it's not been too chilly up there for you?

Ok - with fears of a crypto winter possibly in force, alts are taking a beating all round, but a shakeout only means the cream will rise.

The airdrop was (temporarily?) pulled - got too much (justified) flak for looking decidedly iffy.  Sure, airdrop junkies probably did push things up and then drag it down, but XMR's fundamentals are as good as ever.  Keep calm and wait - Monero isn't going anywhere but up. 

It's a real coin, no ICO, no dev premine, real community, real use cases and as always... vastly superior tech.  Dash fared far worse, as you will probably have noted - Monero even pipped their market cap a week ago and I am sure will soon do so permanently.

And best of all - the real deal?  True privacy matters - it's precious.  You know it. So IMHO... hodl and be patient.  No one who has been around here for a while is remotely worried, nor should you be. 

If that's for real... Then the 2 ledgers I bought waiting for this moment can see some use soon...

Delicious!

I am late on the best wishes, but I hope it all works out well if you are indeed off on a new path.

You'll be missed if you won't be dropping by. 

You will get some from me if it passes review - if so well done!  In fact, well done anyway - I couldn't hope to even approach the issue.

On the claim form the receiver specifically asked if you wanted to be paid back in USD, or Bitcoin.   When I heard it was all going to be done in USD I stopped following things.

Is it now at all realistic that the BTC will be paid back in actual BTC?  Even if it's a percentage of the BTC after costs, it would be far more significant than simply the full USD value of BTC in USD based upon the BTC value in fiat back then.

Any references appreciated, as I did specifically ask for repayment in BTC at the time I was asked. 

Your definition of 'soon' is obviously not the same as Time Draper's.  Or mine.   Look back a year, or 18 months?

One of my family said recently 'we are hoping to have a baby soon'.  I don't think she meant 'by next week'

Yup.... a speech impediment is exactly what it is.  A certain level of eccentricity is tolerated in the uk (if laughed at) as long as it comes coupled with intellect.

That said, personally I do adore the BBC, on the whole.

In the second century BCE, Liu An, king of Huainan, asked the scholars of his court to prepare a book that would outline everything a wise monarch should know about statecraft, philosophy, and general world knowledge

Sorry for the long post - but not easily linked online.   Some highlights might be worth posting, though:


'If a ruler rejects those who work for the public good, and employs people according to friendship and factions, then those of bizarre talent and frivolous ability will be promoted out of turn, while conscientious officials will be hindered and will not advance. In this way, the customs of the people will fall into disorder throughout the state, and accomplished officials will struggle.'

'If the ruler ignores what he should preserve and struggles with his ministers and subordinates about the conduct of affairs, then those with official posts will be preoccupied with holding on to their positions, and those charged with official duties will avoid dismissal by following the whims of the ruler. This will cause capable ministers to conceal their wisdom.'

'If the ruler is frequently exhausted by attending to lesser duties, proper conduct will deteriorate throughout the state. His knowledge by itself will be insufficient to govern, and he will lack what it takes to deal with the world.'

'When those who hold the reins of government pander to their superiors and commit errors, there will be no way to hold them accountable. When those who commit crimes are not punished, the numerous officials will lapse into turmoil and disorder, and wisdom will not be able to resolve the situation. Baseless slander and unwarranted praise will spout forth, and enlightenment will not be able to clarify the situation.'

'When the people do not even have hollowed-out caves or wattle huts in which to shelter themselves, an enlightened ruler does not enjoy high terraces and multistoried pavilions, linked chambers, and lavish rooms.'

'The ruler should consider difficulties before they arise, prepare for calamities before they occur, guard against transgressions, be careful about small matters, and not give rein to desires. He should be straight and unswerving, pure and uncorrupted, competent in both civil and military matters. He should adhere to proper deportment. In promoting and demoting, he should do what is appropriate. He should dwell in quietude and stay centered.'

'A ruler’s words should not be spoken heedlessly; his actions should not be carried out heedlessly. He should select what is good, and only then pursue a course of action.'

'What is prohibited to the people must not be practiced by the ruler himself. If a ruler uses depravity to manipulate society, he will certainly fail.'

'What preserves a state is humaneness and rightness. If a state lacks rightness, even if it is large, it will certainly perish.

In an era of decline, those above love to seize power and know no limits. Officials decrease rewards and increase punishments. The people struggle angrily, and affairs exhaust their energy without achieving anything.'

'When those above are troubled and vexed, those below are unsettled.'

'The ruler, in regard to law, is unbiased in his likes and dislikes. He does not try to embellish what is ugly or make good what is false.

If one’s ability is appropriate to the task, accomplishing it will not be difficult. When those whom the ruler employs are appropriate, the country will be orderly.'

'When the ruler is sincere and upright, honest officials will carry out their duties, and wicked men will go into hiding. When the ruler is not upright, evil men will achieve their goal, and loyal ones will hide themselves.'

'In a well-governed country, those who discuss policy must be in accordance with the law; those who carry out official matters must be regulated. Superiors evaluate actual performance; officials carry out their work efficiently. Words are not permitted to exceed reality. Actions are not permitted to overstep the law.'

'In a disordered country, those who are praised by the multitudes are richly rewarded though devoid of accomplishments. Those who stick to their duties are punished, though free of guilt. The ruler is in the dark and does not understand. Worthies do not offer proposals.'

'Officials form factions; persuasive talkers roam about; people embellish their actions. Those who are taken to be wise devote themselves to artifice and deceit; high officials usurp authority. Cliques and factions become widespread. The ruler is eager to carry out projects that are of no use, while the people look haggard and worn.'

'The ruler uses the wisdom of the world to make plans. His personal pleasure does not determine the granting of rewards. His personal anger does not determine the meting out of punishments. Thus his awesome dignity will be established, and his laws and commands will be clear and precise and not be considered harsh.'

'A country that can be said to be lost is not one without a ruler but one without laws.'

Is there anyone left?

Nope - it's just that in England people who can't pwonounce their pwominent 'r's are twaditionally forgiven as they are often from the somewhat inbwed 'upper class'

Remember "'Welease Wodewick'?

Edit:  At least it wasn"t a documentary about Ripple. 

BBC Radio 4 investigation being broadcast now, into Mt Gox / BTCE and the 'biggest Bitcoin theft ever'.

Fun if you can get it where you are (not sure if it's easy outside the UK).  But some interesting interviews including Karpeles.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09tdyjz

02/04/2018

I am a month behind you and I thought I was too optimistic... I still do.