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561  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 04, 2019, 11:10:07 AM

3. Maybe hold it in Europe and North America alternately - with the locals hosting it each time (and competing with the alternate, previously held one for the kudos).  Asia /Far east is not ruled out, but I am guessing the majority here are probably based in Europe / North America.


The guests dietry requirements might make it impossible to host the party in a single country. Infofront insists on jellied eels.





You're right - it checks all the boxes except for one. I was raised on jellied eel. The lack thereof is a serious dealbreaker.


Similarly Scottish guests may insist on haggis, which is illegal in the USA as it contains sheeps lungs.

Other guests may insist on other exotic delicacies like the ones below that may be illegal in certain countries.



I think local delicacies will be the hosts preferred option, but I am sure in infofront's case - flying in some jellied eels will be possible.  It seems it's a must.

Halvening party seems to be a popular option. Whether we go for a year after (for obvious reasons) - or 'at the time' can be decided, as can the continent.   

In terms of a regular thing... A fun suggestion:

A little competitive sport for a cup might be in order each Halvening Perty (whether it's on a field of sport or around a table) with the WO Halvening Cup to be won or lost each time. Suggestions for the sport welcome - although I realise a cricket match competing for the Ashes of CSW is unlikely to happen. Sadly.

Sort of a Ryder Cup, WO style?   Those in any teams (Host Continent vs Rest of World?) will compete in WO uniform of team-coloured T-Shirts with a their own hat individually printed on it - to be provided by organisers ofc. WO trophy to be engraved and awarded afterwards (by suitable 'celebrity'?) with the cup to be held until the next party.

The honour of a continent at stake may make it one to be worth winning, and glory will be played for, legends made...
562  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 04, 2019, 09:39:47 AM
Off (temporary dip doom-and-gloom) Topic:

Further suggestions ref. possible WO party.

As may have said, the timing it for 100K (or whatever figure) is probably difficult.  

Once we are close to hitting a significant round number, most of us will be watching the charts and spending all the time glued to our screens and not interested in organising something in a hurry in any case.

Then there is location - it seems to boil down to 'which side of the pond'.

How about...  

1. Fix a date with a reasonable time ahead in tune with the halving cycle? I am not sure it needs to hit a target figure to work, and we can't organise price in advance anyway.

2. Fix it again (if successful and people want to repeat it) on a bi-annual(?) basis.

3. Maybe hold it in Europe and North America alternately - with the locals hosting it each time (and competing with the alternate, previously held one for the kudos).  Asia /Far east is not ruled out, but I am guessing the majority here are probably based in Europe / North America.

4. If it's a big do, I (personally) think partners probably ought to be accommodated for and thought of in terms of what is organised.
563  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 03, 2019, 11:55:47 PM
WO party thoughts:

If everyone is getting to the location city under their own steam, $1K for a weekend event based around a decent venue would be simple enough to pull off. It could be a venue / hotel with one big night 'in' but in any decent city, there wouldn't necessarily be the need (or obligation) to all stay over in one place.  

A dinner, a celebration involving some organised moments and entertainment for the big night, sure.

But also a get together in advance / meet and greet excuse ahead of it (the day/evening before maybe, once everyne's in town), plus a day's optional events after the big night.  If the third day events are (say) 'supercar driving' or 'helicopter races', then sure, it would be more costly than (say) a bar and a band, or go-kart racing, but the suggestions could be found with consensus and be optional for those who want to pay to take part, while not a cost to come along and watch with a beer.  There would be little point in not socialising, but it needn't be embarrassingly forced, just things to allow relaxed mingling, laid on at key points.

One formal, fancy and structured evening with 'befores and afters' that are up to whoever fancies them can work to build a great weekend around.

I'd reckon since everyone is different, a central and classy / very cool thing can be agreed as a base point, then add-ons can be fun extras that you can enjoy or skip or choose an alternative to.  Every town has it's appeals for exploring, and adventures to seek accordigng to taste - so some time that is unstructured is a good idea.  

If a bunch fancy the beach, or the casino on the afternoon after for a little recovery, why not?  Then a meet up later for a bite and a few more beers somewhere relaxed (and again booked) for a bit of a VIP feel would be a nice way to catch up with everyone again.... And maybe round the weekend off with people who have met at last, or stay on and send time with new (old) friends, if you fancy it.

Whatever it is, it must be memorable; something to never forget, something fun you know if you told them back home what you'd done for the weekend they'd be jealous.  But.... also it would be your reward for all the sitting in front of a screen for countless hours, someting you always hoped that one day you'd feel was finally paying you back, big time.  Something that is worth treating yourself to....  And sharing with some of the people you been through it with.

Excuse the ramble - but what d'you reckon:  

A little freedom and a little classy structured stuff - options for wild or chilled... according to need / mood / budget?

Edited a little - I am still thinking..!

EDIT 2:  Jeez - party plans on hold?!!! Wink
 

Did you kidnap JJG to write that for you? Tongue


Ha! Guilty as charged.
564  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 03, 2019, 11:40:13 PM
WO party thoughts:

If everyone is getting to the location city under their own steam, $1K for a weekend event based around a decent venue would be simple enough to pull off. It could be a venue / hotel with one big night 'in' but in any decent city, there wouldn't necessarily be the need (or obligation) to all stay over in one place.  

A dinner, a celebration involving some organised moments and entertainment for the big night, sure.

But also a get together in advance / meet and greet excuse ahead of it (the day/evening before maybe, once everyne's in town), plus a day's optional events after the big night.  If the third day events are (say) 'supercar driving' or 'helicopter races', then sure, it would be more costly than (say) a bar and a band, or go-kart racing, but the suggestions could be found with consensus and be optional for those who want to pay to take part, while not a cost to come along and watch with a beer.  There would be little point in not socialising, but it needn't be embarrassingly forced, just things to allow relaxed mingling, laid on at key points.

One formal, fancy and structured evening with 'befores and afters' that are up to whoever fancies them can work to build a great weekend around.

I'd reckon since everyone is different, a central and classy / very cool thing can be agreed as a base point, then add-ons can be fun extras that you can enjoy or skip or choose an alternative to.  Every town has it's appeals for exploring, and adventures to seek accordigng to taste - so some time that is unstructured is a good idea.  

If a bunch fancy the beach, or the casino on the afternoon after for a little recovery, why not?  Then a meet up later for a bite and a few more beers somewhere relaxed (and again booked) for a bit of a VIP feel would be a nice way to catch up with everyone again.... And maybe round the weekend off with people who have met at last, or stay on and send time with new (old) friends, if you fancy it.

Whatever it is, it must be memorable; something to never forget, something fun you know if you told them back home what you'd done for the weekend they'd be jealous.  But.... also it would be your reward for all the sitting in front of a screen for countless hours, someting you always hoped that one day you'd feel was finally paying you back, big time.  Something that is worth treating yourself to....  And sharing with some of the people you been through it with.

Excuse the ramble - but what d'you reckon:  

A little freedom and a little classy structured stuff - options for wild or chilled... according to need / mood / budget?

Edited a little - I am still thinking..!

EDIT 2:  Jeez - party plans on hold?!!! Wink
 
565  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 03, 2019, 06:23:31 AM
If we can't put a decent party together for a couple of thousand bucks a head (assuming 75+ people), we would be doing it wrong.

If you want Don Perignon on tap it's an optional extra, but a decent party with accomodation and decent food sorted in the price, some entertainment etc is easily done.  Extras can be 'according to taste and desires' surely...

I used to work in the music business, I have a fair idea what a party for an upscale entourage costs. With or without extras.

Frankly, I think $1,000/person is pretty extravagant.

Live band, buffet and hor'douvres or however the fuck it's spelled, open bar, and security.

And by invitation only IMO - posting any details publicly results in de-invitation.

I totally agree on the 'no need to be extravagant' - I was advocating for way less than the figures being bandied about. 

If it's just for the event and everyone sources their own accommodation, of course it's OTT.  Even if 5 star accommodation for a weekend is involved, plus a lot of events and a very special venue for the big night, then $1000 is still plenty. 

If anything is going to happen and with such a varied bunch of people, I would imagine people will want to just book their own trip but attend the main event and perhaps some spin off trips in bunches according to their whims (and who they want to hang out with).  The spend is then optional and it means secrecy and security is reduced to the actual event(s).

If a bunch want to go drive supercars around a race track for an afternoon, or head en masse for a Michelin-starred restaurant it's an optional add on.  It would be best if stuff was organised in advance, though.
566  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2019, 10:19:44 PM
If we can't put a decent party together for a couple of thousand bucks a head (assuming 75+ people), we would be doing it wrong.

If you want Don Perignon on tap it's an optional extra, but a decent party with accomodation and decent food sorted in the price, some entertainment etc is easily done.  Extras can be 'according to taste and desires' surely...

I used to work in the music business, I have a fair idea what a party for an upscale entourage costs. With or without extras.

567  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2019, 06:34:37 PM
Well, this is putting the 100K party Vegas location in jeopardy.

I thought it was agreed that we wouldn't do the party in the US, for our various international friends who have problems stepping onto US soil ?

Canada in the summer is nice (British Columbia ?), although I think somewhere in Europe might be an alternative (Spain ? The Netherlands ? Belgium ? Someplace that has no trouble with English)

Mexico or anywhere South America are out of contention for security reasons.

I have trouble getting out of the US, might make it into Canada, the Caribbean would actually be the easiest to pull off for me.

It was always going to be very impractical opsec-wise to have one huge party.
We're going to have to decentralise this thing.
One in Vegas, one in Canada, one in Amsterdam, one in my garden if the weather's nice

I think your garden sounds good, anyone with an Aga is going to have a rather fine garden, I reckon.
Lots of options in Europe appeal but IMHO these days Amsterdam is full of tourists and tacky as hell.

Seriously - if this ever happens?

Hiring an appropriately sized venue entirely (hotel / country house... fuck it - a castle, even) might make security a little less of an issue - near or in a decent city - for the actual party. There are ways of keeping things quiet if the city is known and everyone arrives randomly, but the actual venue party venue is only divulged to ticket holders once they arrive in town.

I might roll up for the party if it's Canada or perhaps the Caribbean (as long as it's a decent island and not in hurricane season) but I would certainly find it easier if it's Europe, where i tend to be. As a city, Vegas doesn't appeal to me TBH, but I understand I might be in the minority.

Dropping by and having a secure, OG-only event with some decent stuff laid on and some options locally for going off exploring /making a decent break of it would be rather fun.  I'd happily chip in for a ticket to that.
568  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: May 31, 2019, 02:47:28 PM
Hey fellas... how'z it hangin'?  Grin

I been "away" awhile, again.  Still "OUT" mostly.  Long ago even before the 'crypto winter' was really "real" to all of us I'd speculated that the crashing would be overwith sometime around late springtime towards early summer 2019 (i.e. now).

Soooooooooo... gotta start thinkin' about coming back, I guess.

But, I dunno. IS it really "time" yet now?  Or kinda sorta maybe feels like there's gonna be one more leg-down crashola just to shake the monkeys one last time, before we REALLY start to get going towards next retaking ATH and next ten-bagger from there (going into Halvening time...)

Whaddaya dudes all think?  Maybe I oughta "get back in" but with only like 'half' yet... and wait & see on the other half?

Something like that?  Or still just thinkin' out loud here awhile yet again.

LOL  Grin

Welcome back, KeyJockey.

Well the crypto winter ended (effectively) in December with BTC dropping to $3122.

Since then BTC has seen a decent recovery and accumulation phase as I am sure you can see.   A real 'alt season' has not really kicked off yet, with BTC dominance mostly increasing since the start of the year (it was over 60% not too long back). However, green shoots are appearing - so your timing is about right.

Certainly Monero at over $90 is better than sub $40 as XMR was in December, but while keeping up respectably well in USD terms, against BTC it hasn't really performed yet - probably due to the stage of the cycle IMHO.

With BTC slipping back into a mid-50s percentile dominance-wise, it looks like alts are waking up - and XMR is sitting mid-table in performance terms, having lost less than most during the crypto winter.  Institutional fund money when and if it comes may buy a top-20 basket of CC to help out, but whatever happens it looks fairly obvious big-caps are largely doing better than minor alts.

For me, it's not a time to sell XMR and it is still sitting at no. 12, or 13 in market cap, in spite of stable coins and platforms taking spots all over the top 20.   

'Real private money' - Monero's use case (and dominance for privacy) does not really need arguing any more.

I'd say: Sit tight, keep a balance in BTC and XMR - and tread very carefully if you feel like going elsewhere in the wonderful world of crypto, many alts are on life-support at best.
569  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 31, 2019, 01:13:38 PM
No reposting required.

@ Eddie - trust me, they looked a long way under 18.

You can just rent chickens to dance in front of you. You don't have to tickle them up and down afterwards.

Why certainly! Who doesn't rent a chicken or two just to lift a party a little?   

The sort of chickens this gentleman was showing off, IIRC were a little featherless though.  Not the done thing, old boy.
570  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 31, 2019, 01:07:07 PM
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The word 'p(a)edophile' is being shifted to a different meaning recently. Wiktionary defines it as 'An adult who is sexually attracted to or engages in sexual acts with a child.' I see no children in this pic, or in other recent party pics from the douche. Of course, I'm not debating Calvin being a douche.

I believe V8 was making a joke about these women being the mothers of the young girls in the first link he put up, one you may have missed and that I won't repost.

No reposting required.

@ Eddie - trust me, they looked a long way under 18.
571  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 31, 2019, 01:05:11 PM
Bitcoinwisdom.io down  Sad

Edit: It has returned.  And it was down according to isitdownrightnow.com
572  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 31, 2019, 11:54:24 AM
Stock traders used to say 'Sell in May and go away'

It has been up a lot, so correction /profit taking to be expected.  Nothing to see here.
573  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 31, 2019, 11:52:06 AM
ˆChilling....
574  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2019, 10:40:05 AM
Who pays for the "buy bitcoin"  adverts that appear from the mid to the end of every single bull run and the start of all downtreands?

People who want to sell Bitcoin?

Why don't the adverts continue through the accumulation phase?

Because these (same people) are clever and accumulating back again?

Clever people must be selling right now then.

So we are in a downtrend, or starting one?   Hadn't actually noticed myself - I thought going from $3122 to $8000 was er.... 'up'
575  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2019, 10:25:28 AM
Who pays for the "buy bitcoin"  adverts that appear from the mid to the end of every single bull run and the start of all downtreands?

People who want to sell Bitcoin?

Why don't the adverts continue through the accumulation phase?

Because these (same people) are clever and accumulating back again?
576  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 20, 2019, 04:29:26 AM

Nice one - useful!
577  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 19, 2019, 07:44:32 PM


Lets gooooo BTC
It's hard to stop now 🤪

Can we start soaping again 🤩

When I asked her to
Massage my Maserati
She polished me off
Are you complaining or happy about it? 🤩

Not complaining at all, a little polishing off sometimes goes a looooong way....  The Maserati can always wait.
578  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 19, 2019, 04:42:06 PM


Lets gooooo BTC
It's hard to stop now 🤪

Can we start soaping again 🤩

When I asked her to
Massage my Maserati
She polished me off
579  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2019, 09:39:12 PM

On this occasion Ivomm's pips V8's rather fine eye.  Somewhat superlative image, IMHO.
580  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: May 16, 2019, 09:32:47 PM
I made this silly video some of you guys may appreciate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHnnj2noPak

Thought I'd share it here for any of you guys that are too cool to visit le reddit.

That is rather good!  Smiley
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