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1121  Other / Off-topic / Re: Parents need to bring back the belt! on: January 07, 2013, 04:37:33 PM
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You don't need to visit the server room to access the server hardware, and the admin does not need to visit the server room to prevent you from doing so.
I also don't need to access server room to do some lulz if I'm angry. I would probably be arshole to many more users as they would be unable to use the cyber part of this forum and the damage vs gain is unclear.
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I'm looking for a specific definition of own, not how it applies to information
The ownership in virtual world is little bit different than in real world. The virtual things cannot be prevented from copying (duplicating and multiplying) and the theft is impossible in a sense that the original is still available. With bitcoin private keys this is little different because bitcoins are more like a process (signing a transaction and broadcasting) than object (the private key used for signing tx).
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By your definition, if I can restrict the use of information, I own it.
No. If hacked forum is deleted, the information is restriceted but the hacker is not the owner. In a sense Smiley
1122  Other / Off-topic / Re: Parents need to bring back the belt! on: January 06, 2013, 10:26:45 PM
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And it is precisely that hardware which you are accessing to write your posts. You are accessing that hardware by the good graces of it's owners.
I never visited the server room of Bitcointalk. Or You cannot distinguish real world from cyberspace, and dreams from reality?
1123  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Plane with 1.5 ton gold held in Turkey on: January 06, 2013, 08:48:40 PM
1.5 tons of gold in cargo plane and did not properly calculate the route to Tehran without refueling that causes unnecessary risks? Are they stupid? They could have used Tu-95 that can fly from Moscow to Cuba without refueling if they have them in flying condition.

Iranian government is not stupid. More likely some drug cartels money or CIA black operation.
1124  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: [WTS] Bitcointalk forum account on: January 06, 2013, 08:41:00 PM
Troll post?

Troll thread, maybe.  Troll posts?  I don't think it's possible to troll this thread.
It is possible. Just say that you purchased multiple accounts from him and are satisfied.
1125  Other / Off-topic / Re: Parents need to bring back the belt! on: January 06, 2013, 08:11:05 PM
Information cannot be owned by single entity!

Are private keys information?

yes and you don't own it, you are simple the only person who knows this information ( hopefully )
Right on spot! The private key is information must be kept secret by the owner by purely technical means. If it leaks because of your stupidity it becomes public information and nothing can stop the spread. Making laws and rules to cover your failure to keep the information for yourself only is just wrong!
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What exactly is your definition of own?
Claiming rights that restrict the use of information in any way.
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It can be (and is) in my country and others. Trade secrets and Intellectual property (copyright, patent, trademark, design, etc) are all protected by law in many countries.
My point of reference is the copyright laws that existed in pre-industrial revolution and partly in USSR. The copyright in capitalism is used for workless income, patent trolling and to restrict flow of knowledge, restrict entertainment and hinder technological advance. The copyright should be abandoned completely like slavery was. (I'm racist but I don't want a stinking slave and I consider having slave unethical and dangerous to society).
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You don't have free speech on a privately owned forum. Period.
Where can I have it? In forums owned by federal government of USA? Forums owned by non-governmental nonprofit organizations? I doubt it.

Publicly accessible forum cannot be considered private forum. This is public place, only the hardware is owned privately.
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Most modern purebred dogs registered with closed stud books are highly inbred, increasing the possibility of genetic-based disease.

Is stupidity a disease?
Comparing pure race that is natural occurrence to selectively inbred dogs are stupid. The mixed race humans are more like horse and donkey hybrids. I somewhat feel sorry for them, they did not choose their parents.
1126  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: [WTS] Bitcointalk forum account on: January 06, 2013, 06:06:07 AM
It might be very good to purchase reputable and well known member's account to use his reputation to scam people. But if the sale is known and something is out of ordinary, it loses whole point of it.

Each account have unique personality that reflects the user who controls it. Someone else using other account will be just wrong. Just imagine someone else using Atlas account! Cheesy And it is hard also as I struggle to give each of my sockpupets here a different personality Cheesy

edit: selling soul is just as big scam as selling BFL or any other Bitcoin mining ASIC chips. Both of them does not exist, besides BFL is additional scam contrary to soul who just is religious misconception of cognition.
1127  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: So I saw smoothie at a Fast Food Restaurant Today :) on: January 06, 2013, 05:57:07 AM
Why smoothie nickname me always remind of this site? http://www.asssmoothie.com/2/?nats=MjM6NTo2,0,0,0,0
1128  Other / Off-topic / Re: Parents need to bring back the belt! on: January 06, 2013, 05:48:25 AM
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It's one of the forum policies that state we do not condone any crazy stances like racism.
The users opinions not always matches opinions of site operator. This is understandable and OK for most parts of world, except Russia and now probably USA.
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Bitcoin is after all an international effort.
International Yes. Internet is international lol. But I suspect there is no niggers working in Bitcoin development team. There must be more niggers than whites because niggers are larger percentage of world population than whites? Why? (I already know the answer!)
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You are free to start your own forum and state your own policies there
Already did it numerous times in last 10 years on both clearnet and onion land. Most of time absolute freedom works well with notable exception white nationalist forum long time ago where overwhelming majority users requested stricter rules and banning of multiculturalist accounts.
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Is this a threat? Which group are you affiliated with? From what I've gathered, most groups have an anti-policy against racism.
Take it as You prefer. I'm not affiliated with any particular group. I act as I decide. Sometimes (most time) I lurk where various things are coordinated and join in if the cause is just or the price is right. You probably underestimate how diverse people behind Anon are.
1129  Other / Off-topic / Re: Parents need to bring back the belt! on: January 06, 2013, 05:33:05 AM
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I have bad news for you: If you don't have an admin login, it's not your forum.
If I get login to admin page, this will become my forum? Probably it will become in my sense, but not in Your narrow minded meatspace bound opinion.
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if you don't pay the server space bills, it's not your forum.
Running forum nowadays costs next to nothing. Flat rate high speed connection 35$ per month. Usually I consume about few hundred GB per month. Most of the time the connection is utilized below 10%. Very large forum can be run by dual CPU server based on Pentium4 or similar. Such hardware now often are given for almost free. The electricity can be free too. Yet the forum receives donations and justifies the usurpation of information by server costs! Hypocrites!
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And the people whose forum it is, they make the rules. Not you.
They are wrong. They don't make rules. The Suit makes the rules and the sheep faggots follow. They did not ban CP, the Suit banned CP. The same with CC and so on.
1130  Other / Off-topic / Re: Parents need to bring back the belt! on: January 06, 2013, 05:08:45 AM
You are free to keep a backup of your writing to post elsewhere... so ... no problem then
As You probably noticed, the forum is special case where threads are interconnected. People interact and the posts without other writings are out-of-context.

Stop defending the usurpation of information!
1131  Other / Off-topic / Re: Parents need to bring back the belt! on: January 06, 2013, 05:03:32 AM
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Are you claiming this forum is not owned by a private entity?
The physical servers running this forum is owned by pirate entity with no questions. The server chassis, motherboards, CPU chips and so on.

But the information, the intangible part of this forum is owned by people who create them. Information cannot be owned by single entity! Without users and the collective knowledge this forum will be empty and useless.

I put big efforts to write my posts. If my posts are deleted, my work is destroyed. If they are deleted for technical reasons such as to free up memory (640K should be enough), it might be acceptable. If my posts are deleted because some scumbag disagrees with my opinion and even worse he promotes his own wrong one, it is a spit in my face. Or any other users face who got his posts deleted. In real life he will be punched in face. In cyberworld he might end up hacked or goatsed in some other way.

The owners might decide on maintenance works, they have various privileges and so on, but they are the voluntary self-elected servants of people, not the dictators and tyrants who banhammer users for fun or when requested by some faggot. And as a result users need to use self-censorship and work around stupid rules just to get some use of the internet.
1132  Other / Off-topic / Re: Parents need to bring back the belt! on: January 06, 2013, 04:33:09 AM
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So McDonalds, because they open their doors to the public, isn't privately owned? I'm sure they'll be surprised to discover this.
The cyberspace and meatspace operates under different rules because it is fundamentally different. Narrow minded people trying to enforce real life rules and problems in cyberspace are making only problems. You just made yourself fool.
1133  Other / Off-topic / Re: Parents need to bring back the belt! on: January 06, 2013, 04:31:12 AM
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Bullshit. When you join a forum, you agree to the TOS set by the forums admin and owners.
The ToS are non-applicable in any form by law, at least where I live. They are mandatory and force arbitrary rules that cannot be negotiated case-by-case as required for true contract. Contract can be written paper with optional verification or contract can be mutually agreed with two independent witnesses.

I can create and inject JavaScript dialog box that tells that the user agree to visit me and lick my anus after pressing OK button and the OK button will be the only button available that allows him to proceed to use his computer. He agreed to text shown on computer screen, is he now obligated to find me to voluntary lick my anus? The same with nag screens, ToS and other nuisances that leave no choice and only impede the functioning of internet.

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This forum is owned by Mt.Gox, and they have the right to restrict service in any way they choose.
Total bullshit. From whattime it is owned by Mt.Gox? This forum can only be owned by Goatse and probably will.
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If you dont like it, open your own forum. Free Market, bitch.
It is a hard challenge to copy whole Bitcointalk database. Hosting it will be an extreme measure but will do it if the forum deviates too much from ideals.
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Dude, you claimed that "whites" invented electricity....you dont even seem to have a firm grasp on reality, much less facts.
The electrification of western world was done by white inventors and engineers. If electrification in USA was done by black slaves setting up poles and wires, it does not mean that the inventions were made by negroes. I never told that the electricity was invented like gravity (lol), it existed as fundamental force of nature before being put to use. Sorry English is not my native language and sometimes i find hard to find words to describe something.
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For the record, being a regular nazi isnt any better than being a neo nazi.
The worst shit on earth are multiculturalists and liberals. Nazis are the cure, antibiotics for this disease. I hate multiculturalists and contrary to popular belief I don't hate the niggers. I'm just glad we live in different continents.
1134  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: [WTS] Bitcointalk forum account on: January 06, 2013, 04:08:37 AM
Yes, and sell a soul also. It is OK IMHO If acc purchaser does something bad he will get trollhammer banhammer.

Purchaser might get exclusive dumbass title also. There is no real need to buy acc in this forum as post count gives nothing when noob level is left. He is different person and the schizophrenia of personality change will be noticed and trust will be lost.
1135  Other / Meta / Re: Sales of accounts and invites to invite-only sites on: January 06, 2013, 04:00:22 AM
Stop being such moralfags! The seller must add that he is selling accounts he purchased or his own credit card numbers. It is perfectly legal to sell something you have purchased, right? The admin have no way to check is it true or not. If party wan arrives just restore backups or change hosting and proceed. The Pirate Bay would not made such a big deal if they were so concerned about legal/possibly illelgal/ legal but immoral issues. The history is made by people who fight not who obey!
1136  Other / Off-topic / Re: Parents need to bring back the belt! on: January 06, 2013, 03:39:01 AM
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Also yes, Evolve I agree with your private forum argument. It's true censorship can be had here as per agreement in using the forum.
Private forum is when it is run on localhost only or have no connection to outside internet. If someone decides to serve something publicly for other internet users to use then it is no more private but public and he have responsibilities. It is like waiting till bus is full of passengers and then deviating from route or starting to touch 16 year old girls just because they are on his private bus!

If it responds to port scan, it is not private.
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If he wants to spout racist bullshit, he can take that shit to stormfront or some other neo-nazi hate website.
It is not bullshit, I only told facts. I'm not neo-nazi, I'm traditional national socialist. It is not productive to spend time talking with same minded people on stormfront or similar places. Talking to different minded people and making them to believe my ideology is the productive thing.
1137  Other / Off-topic / Re: Parents need to bring back the belt! on: January 06, 2013, 03:26:55 AM
Now this thread is completely derailed.

Freedom of speech is one of few things that is absolute. In forum that deals with outlawed crypto currency of future, where half-crazy libertarians discuss gun politics, where Chinese sells knockoffs and Rumanian hacker sells hacked accounts. In this same forum discussing the behaviour of niggers and defending my point of view about nationality, race and ancestry, my posts are censored. They were not censored year ago. In same time the fuckwit multiculturalist posts are left victorious. I was calling to delete them too not because i want to censor them, but because one wrong opinion not be left standing victorious over my right opinion!

I consider bringing this forum offline for few hours. If the freedom of speech is selective freedom, then I will select to silence everyone. This will give admins time to think about this issue.

Only time I got deleted here is because I offered DDoS for money. I got PM explaining it and I was told that it will be OK if I offered this for free. In same time posting pictures of tribesman is not allowed! Fuck You hard!
1138  Other / Off-topic / Re: Parents need to bring back the belt! on: January 06, 2013, 03:09:17 AM
Fuck You John! Then delete also the replies that promote racial blindness.

It was never the problem to discuss politics here on Bitcointalk. You are censor.
1139  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find Trendon Shavers in person thread... [BTCST, BTS&T, pirateat40] on: January 06, 2013, 01:17:56 AM
pirateat40 is Basement Dweller https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Basement_dweller

He is safe because he is in his basement from where he orchestrated his scam. He only emerges to snatch food. Proof here https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/0/06/Gamer.png

Ho no longer even need to leave basement because now he can order over 9000 pizzas https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Over_9000 with bitcoins https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Bitcoin You gave him! https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Loser
1140  Other / Off-topic / Re: Parents need to bring back the belt! on: January 06, 2013, 12:47:07 AM
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I can only hope, for the sake of humanity at large, that you are sterile.
No I will have kids. And they will get belt if they are going to hit other kids for no reason. Except when they are hitting negroes.

The problem most likely are bad examples from cartoons at very young age. When I grew up the cartoons were not violent before iron curtain fell. The kids were playing war games with toy guns but they were not physically harming each other at any age.
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