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1141  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Ваша прибыль - чей-то убыток. on: June 18, 2020, 08:19:19 PM
Есть достаточно простая аксиома, которую знают все – ваша прибыль является чьим-то убытком. Для меня этот тезис всегда был чем-то естественным

По уму это называется zero-sum game, т.е. игра с нулевой суммой

И для подавляющего большинства альткоинов такую презумпцию можно считать обоснованной и справедливой. С другой стороны, если мы ведем речь, например, о догах или битках, т.е. о крипте, которая имеет весьма солидное применение вне биржевой торговли, игра начинает стоить свеч, образно выражаясь. Выражаясь менее образно, не все кто продает эту крипту и не все кто ее покупает обязательно трейдеры. А в этом случае уже нельзя говорить о zero-sum game (т.е. некоем условном купи-продай)
1142  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Pun & Fun Thread on: June 18, 2020, 06:30:56 PM


I’m as single as a dollar, and I’m not looking for change
1143  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Трейд криптой, с чего начать? on: June 18, 2020, 11:14:08 AM
Соглашусь с человеком выше который написал что трейдинг требует больше усилий

Полагаю, что нельзя быть немножко беременной

Если трейдинг требует больше усилий по сравнению с простым холдом, то и вероятность ошибки там будет больше при прочих равных условиях, а стало быть шансы потерять, а не выиграть также будут выше. Ну и поскольку речь идет про одни и те же активы, то при торгах есть возможность потерять даже при долгосрочном положительном тренде на актив. Или, как вариант, заработать на нем меньше, чем при не требующем особых усилий холде
1144  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Las Vegas Casinos are open - end of the Pandemic era. on: June 18, 2020, 08:32:37 AM
I think it is not equivalent to compare people who infect others with HIV and coronavirus

Well, I'm not sure that you read my post carefully enough

To repeat, if you are infected (I mean the coronavirus here), have been diagnosed with the disease and asked to stay home but you still go out and some people actually die because of you, it can already be legally qualified at least as a "criminally negligent homicide" or "involuntary manslaughter". So it doesn't matter if the death rate from HIV is higher as you already have blood on your hands (this is a crucial point which you seem to have missed)

When establishing a cause-and-effect relationship, it is very easy to determine who infected HIV

What makes you think so, given that it takes years, sometimes even decades, till the symptoms start to develop?


You said eqrlier that some people use needles or cut with blades smeared with their infected blood. It's hard not to notice

Is this your typical approach to discussion?

I only referred to HIV-infected people pricking other people with needles. I didn't say anything about "cutting them with blades". Moreover, I also added that I had heard such stories. However, their desciption may be totally inaccurate (read, they might have been invented, to scare people). But it doesn't really matter since you can get infected in a multitude of ways (e.g. by having sex with such an individual) which don't leave you suspecting anything wrong

And how to determine that a person was infected with the virus by Vasya, and not John?

You better ask those who came up with this law

Do you happen to remember a reference to this law?

As they say, Google is your friend
1145  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Las Vegas Casinos are open - end of the Pandemic era. on: June 17, 2020, 09:26:16 PM
I think it is not equivalent to compare people who infect others with HIV and coronavirus

Well, I'm not sure that you read my post carefully enough

To repeat, if you are infected (I mean the coronavirus here), have been diagnosed with the disease and asked to stay home but you still go out and some people actually die because of you, it can already be legally qualified at least as a "criminally negligent homicide" or "involuntary manslaughter". So it doesn't matter if the death rate from HIV is higher as you already have blood on your hands (this is a crucial point which you seem to have missed)

When establishing a cause-and-effect relationship, it is very easy to determine who infected HIV

What makes you think so, given that it takes years, sometimes even decades, till the symptoms start to develop?

And how to determine that a person was infected with the virus by Vasya, and not John?

You better ask those who came up with this law

And how else to deal with such a moment. If a person is put in quarantine at home, but they need to eat and feed their children, go to the store, pay bills. How can he do this if he is forbidden to leave the house?

As I suspect, in these circumstances such people end up being sent to "concentration camps":



I guess being quarantined at home is a better option overall
1146  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Las Vegas Casinos are open - end of the Pandemic era. on: June 17, 2020, 03:30:11 PM
I think it is not equivalent to compare people who infect others with HIV and coronavirus

Well, I'm not sure that you read my post carefully enough

To repeat, if you are infected (I mean the coronavirus here), have been diagnosed with the disease and asked to stay home but you still go out and some people actually die because of you, it can already be legally qualified at least as a "criminally negligent homicide" or "involuntary manslaughter". So it doesn't matter if the death rate from HIV is higher as you already have blood on your hands (this is a crucial point which you seem to have missed)
1147  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A month after Bitcoin Halving. What's next? on: June 17, 2020, 02:57:13 PM
The halving is good but it's not going to help if world economy enters a new great depression

A new great depression is not very probable with today's economic paradigm

As such, the real Great Depression which started in 1929 was only "the cherry on the cake" if I may say so. Before that, there were a number of minor "depressions", and the main reason behind all of them was the gold standard and paper money redeemable for a set amount of physical gold

I know this may look like a paradise for quite a few in crypto circles, but in real life, however, it turned out to be hell, over and over again. The point is that a new depression is unlikely as the government can easily print its way out of it. There are a lot of issues with fiat money (mostly coming from its abuse and misuse), but depression is not one of them
1148  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Дно которое все ждали on: June 17, 2020, 10:57:59 AM
и до биткоина тоже доберутся те, у кого он есть

Это вопрос непростой

Суть в том, что в крипту (биток) люди несут далеко не последние деньги (сейчас не 2017 год). Соответственно, и тратить ее будут в самую последнюю очередь. А это будет означать полную жопу. Однако полная жопа однозначно ознаменует гиперинфляцию в фиатных валютах -- по-другому просто не бывает (сейчас не 1929 год, когда доллар был обеспечен золотом, и совсем другие условия). Но в этом случае вполне возможны и казусы в виде роста крипты, хотя бы только в краткосроке
1149  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Las Vegas Casinos are open - end of the Pandemic era. on: June 17, 2020, 09:25:55 AM
If people know that they are sick and can infect other people, then of course they should be conscious and not go out. There is no question of their going to Las Vegas. In some cases, this could be interpreted as deliberately infecting other people.
Indeed, sick people must stay at home and don't go outside. That's how we call physical distancing to prevent others infected by sick people. I assume all sick people have understood the risks to transmit/spread the virus to others if they go outside. So, it is true that once they go outside, even go to Las Vegas Casinos, it means they intentionally transmit it to others.

>Well, there should be a strict security check before the visitors go inside the casinos to prevent this danger.

I just heard in the news now that in the Philippines, one person who is already on quarantine was able to slip out and go to the island of Boracay, which is a very popular beach island in the country. So this woman went to the tourist island and then left the next day and went back to the place where she is quarantined. Now talking about people who are deliberately infecting others, I would say this is one example of those people who wants to get even with life and wants to spread the virus to others. News is she will be sued by government for violating quarantine protocols.

I would not be surprised if soon in some countries there will be a criminal article for intentionally infecting other people with coronavirus

I guess this has been the case since HIV started spreading

I've heard stories of the HIV-positive people deliberately trying to infect other people by pricking them with needles in public places. Regarding coronavirus, willfully avoiding quarantine when infected is already a criminal offence in Russia. And if your reckless behavior led to deaths of other people, you can get up to 7 years in jail. People should be more responsible and take care not only of themselves but of other people too, which is an expected behavior in any culture
1150  Economy / Reputation / Re: An obvious case of trust abuse (DT members welcome) on: June 16, 2020, 09:54:20 PM
You can check how many of my posts have been deleted by mods on bpip.org
I was trying to share the main point, not accusing you of being a spammer, man

It was not intended that way either. I just saw an opportunity in case this issue comes up again as it had already happened in the past (the whole thread is def worth reading)

Anyways, my last reply here, Hoping deisik would be satisfied from my action

It is still a ticking bomb, though
1151  Economy / Reputation / Re: An obvious case of trust abuse (DT members welcome) on: June 16, 2020, 09:06:26 PM
It's really sorry to see that higher ranked users even mess with the forum feedback system and the forum rules. Tagging someone for shit posting is really kind of abuse and this should only be handled by moderators only. If deisik were shit posting, it would be a fiar decision to deisik if Lucius have reported the said spam

You can check how many of my posts have been deleted by mods on bpip.org

Quote
Posts 23478 (Rank 5 )
Posts deleted by moderators: 36 (Rank: >1000 )
Posts made per post deleted: 652 (Rank: >1000 )

So it is 36 deleted posts out of 23478 posts contributed. And most of these posts were deleted in threads after someone had necroposted in them (read, the posts were deleted not on their own merits or lack thereof). So much for shitposting and spamming. But let me explain to you what happened back in 2019. The trust abuser had probably reported on me like a dozen times, and after none of my posts had been deleted, he simply lost his mind and went totally nuts and bananas

Many months ago, I remember that I asked from this forum user to not quote me again because most of his posts were pretty low quality/spammy and I was spending unnecessary effort while answering his non-sense but still

I remember every brawl with every poster I had in the past here or elsewhere

You went completely unnoticed until you showed up with that ridiculous demand, unexpected and out of the blue. Technically, I can't even say that you were posting bullshit as your posts were most certainly just like that, perfectly unimpressive and mediocre. Just saying
1152  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Martingale revisited on: June 16, 2020, 05:56:29 PM
10% daily profit in my opinion is pretty good. Not playing all day is also a matter to consider. It would be very good if we have more capital to implement this strategy

Actually, I don't think you can safely earn 10% daily (like day in and day out) with martingale

To make your martingale endeavor really lasting, you should be looking toward exploiting variance, and that means waiting for outliers. However, the ones that are within your safety range don't come very often, perhaps, 1-2 weekly (yeah, it means using autobet). So the best you could reasonably hope for is more like 10% monthly. If you are looking for more aggressive approaches striving for bigger wins, you risk busting sooner than you would otherwise expect
1153  Economy / Reputation / Re: An obvious case of trust abuse (DT members welcome) on: June 16, 2020, 05:15:06 PM
@cabalism13: I'm surprised you're not mentioned in this topic yet, while you're the one who put Lucius on DT2. May I suggest to reconsider this?

I sent them a PM too (this morning) asking to review the thread and reconsider their decision to add Lucius to DT2

You've reached DT2 2 months ago

I only noticed my negative trust yesterday (I mean the yellow -1 under avatar). I had DT2 disabled and opened one of my topics with another browser. I was rather surprised to see my account referred to as a scammer
1154  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Pun & Fun Thread on: June 16, 2020, 05:07:31 PM


My heart says yes, but my mom says no
1155  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Las Vegas Casinos are open - end of the Pandemic era. on: June 16, 2020, 04:06:06 PM
However, I firmly believe that people have the right to decide whether to stay at home or not

This is not even remotely so

If these people are infected, they could infect other people. But you wouldn't (I hope) say that they have the right for this. Therefore, they must stay home if they caught the virus and know they are ill. You could argue that they should be quarantined or hospitalized, and I would likely agree with you. However, if they are not seriously affected and feel more or less fine, staying home should be okay as long as they actually stay home
1156  Economy / Reputation / Re: An obvious case of trust abuse (DT members welcome) on: June 16, 2020, 03:37:54 PM
Here's the PM I sent them yesterday:



Since I didn't receive any reply and the negative feedback was not removed, I assume that there is no such intention. So we have a malicious trust abuser who is now a DT2 member. I'm not sure how it stands with other DT members, but it is definitely against the purposes of the trust system

Feels like a moment of truth to me
1157  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Martingale revisited on: June 16, 2020, 02:54:11 PM
While martingale is guaranteed to not work in the long term even allocating a daily budget for gambling is guaranteed to work either

It depends on how you use this strategy

If you follow it mindlessly, then you are certainly guaranteed to bust. But in this regard, it is not much different from any other complex strategy in any other area, in gambling or elsewhere. When used wisely, your chances of running it successfully within a certain amount of time can be higher than losing. Given this, you can't really say that it is guaranteed to not work in the long term as long as "long term" is finite and accounted for
1158  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A month after Bitcoin Halving. What's next? on: June 16, 2020, 10:45:33 AM
The halving event was the major event that everyone had look forward to  – "The big event of 2020. Now it's done

Well, this is a pretty widespread misunderstanding of halving

Indeed, it was an "event" in the sense something occurred on a certain date (in this case, the block reward halving). However, the halving event itself was only a starting point after which the reward has been halved and remains halved, the point being that it is the process as it unfolds in due course that counts, not just the mere fact that it happened. So, in a sense, the halving is not done as it still goes on. And it will take time to reveal and unleash all its long-term and lasting effects, consequences and implications (possibly, hell)
1159  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🐺WOLF.BET - Provably fair Dice & HILO game 🎲↕️ 30% Rakeback💰$500 Daily Race🔥 on: June 15, 2020, 08:14:35 PM
WOLF gambling has a very unique appearance that can make players feel at home and comfortable

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Throw me to the wolves, and I’ll come back leading the pack
1160  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Pun & Fun Thread on: June 15, 2020, 08:00:56 PM


You were my cup of tea, but I drink champagne now
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