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1141  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 20, 2023, 09:48:55 PM
It would be better if Real Madrid stopped worrying about signing Mbappe this season because PSG has already started to control him and no matter how hard Mbappe tries, he doesn't have the right to leave a team when there isn't any negotiation because PSG also bought him and will want to sell it for whatever price they please.
Why Real Madrid must stop their effort to sign Mbappe? You don't understand why they are always trying to sign him, they know if Mbappe is possible to leave PSG. If you follow the rumor, you must hear that Real Madrid and Mbappe even already reached the personal agreement, it is only about negotiating with PSG management.

PSG already controls him for many years, that's why PSG gives him special right for Mbappe in the club. However, there are something that PSG can't give to Mbappe, it is about UCL trophy and a better career in the future. These are actually the reason why Mbappe wants to leave PSG. Since his contract is almost over, it make sense if Real Madrid tries more to sign him.

1142  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will the altcoin go up in price if the bitcoin price goes up? on: July 20, 2023, 09:42:47 PM
When bitcoin is pumping, altcoins prices will decrease. Moreover, when Bitcoin is dumped, the altcoins prices will go further down.
If you learn the current trend in crypto prices, most altcoins follow the Bitcoin price. If Bitcoin price increases, most altcoins will increase their prices as well. This may be different if we are already in the bullrun season, the trend may change because people's focus will be different.

And when the price of Bitcoin consolidated after all this, then there is an altcoin season.
For altcoins season, it should be in the bullrun season, we can't expect it happens in the near future. Currently, if Bitcoin price is hard to increase, most altcoins are also a bit slow to increase their values. But it is for common altcoins, it is different on hype coins. There are some coins which rely on the hype, they don't depend on Bitcoin price trend.

1143  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you quit that's when you lose! on: July 20, 2023, 09:16:08 PM
There's a popular  remark among gamblers in the part of  my country I reside. The saying is expressed like this "if you quit that's when you lose".  They use this statement to encourage and give futuristic hope to themselves that no matter how much they loss today or how many wagers they have lost they don't need to quit as it's possible you may be the next jackpot winner tomorrow.
This is how a gambler to lose everything at the end. They think there will be a bigger chance to win if they do more attempts, but it is actually the wrong way. Basically, every gambler knows how big the chance to win the jackpot/prize, it is very small chance. And do more attempts with bigger money, won't increase the chance to win. It is the wrong mindset that there will be futuristic hope. We must know when we must to stop, gambling shouldn't be excessively.

This is how gambling addiction starts.
Sure. And it is also how the gambler begins to lose everything. Then, he probably takes a loan and experiences more complicated problem in his life. That's the consequence of someone that believes on the popular remark.

1144  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 20, 2023, 09:00:07 PM
Players change under the right managers especially defenders. When managers get their pairing wrong it affects players. Did you watch Rudiger play under frank Lampard and Sarri before Sarri left the club and Lampard was sacked (the first time), he was one of the poorest defender I have even seen and wasn't getting playing time because of a flop he was just as Henry Maguire is at Manchester united but then Thomas tuchel came and everything turned around for Rudiger, he was one of the best defender in the premier league at some point and helped Chelsea in lifting the Champions league because our defender were the secret behind our victory that season.

We even sold him to Real Madrid and this was a player we were at some point looking to let go because of how poorly he was performing. I just told you this story for you to understand how vital coaches are to a player. I believe if Henry Maguire meets a coach that can use him to work he'll become a top defender. Let's not forget he wasn't a flop when he was bought so saying he's going to flop if sold is just assumptions. Players change under the right management just as I explained with the Rudiger story. Rudiger has gone on to win another champions league with Real Madrid so don't be surprised if Henry Maguire moves on and become successful as well.
I agree if it is about the common case of players' performance. But for Maguire case, it is extra ordinary case for me. You must know how many times he made senseless mistakes. It even become ridiculous memes for people around the world. For a professional player who play in the best league in the world, those mistakes made by Maguire are too severe. I know what you are trying to explain, but we are talking about Maguire case, it is not a common case like other plyers.

If Rudiger performance in Real Madrid isn't as well as in Chelsea, we can understand that he is in adaptation. Even if he performed not really well, it is not as poor as what Maguire did in Man United. The mistakes made by Rudiger are still understandable. It is clear that Maguire case and Rudiger case aren't comparable.

1145  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 19, 2023, 09:18:06 PM
Cuadrado is now officially an Inter player.
Something that seemed impossible given his previous 8 years spent with Juventus.
I think Inter only wants him as a substituted player. Inter already has Dumfries who plays in the same position. But it is not a bad idea to have Cuadrado as long as he wants to follow the coach plan and not expect much to play regularly.

Yep, he played a long time in Juventus. I think it can be the reason for him leaving now. He may assume he won't play a long time since he is already 35 years old. He wants a new challenge in another team before he retires.

I think Barcelona won't be interested in him based on their financial problems.
As far as I know, Barcelona is already interested in him since the last season. But Man City keeps Bernardo Silva, he is an important player for the squad. He still performed well in the last season, no reason to let him leaving. Besides Barcelona may have no money to sign him, Man City seems refuse any offer for Bernardo Silva because he is still a part of Man City plan for the next season.

1146  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can I save my brother by investing in btc now? on: July 19, 2023, 08:56:35 PM
I come from China,The following is translated by machine ,My brother has leukemia. I have already owed  30,000 US dollars. But my brother still hasn't improved. I finally got the bone marrow last week. The doctor said it would cost about 75,000 US dollars. My total assets are about 3,000 US dollars now. If I want to treat my brother. Is it too late to buy btc now?thank you
If you live in China, you must understand that you have no chance to invest in BTC. China government bans crypto, it is including BTC for sure. If you force yourself to invest in BTC, you will get a trouble with the law if the government knows it. So, it is not a wise decision to invest in something illegal in your country.

Anyway, BTC investment has no guarantee for profits and it is always a high risk investment. If you expect for an exact profit and it should be in the short time holding, BTC isn't the right option. People mostly invest in BTC for a long term holding, but they never set an exact profit although they set a target. Regarding the time for entry (buy), surely it is not too late. We are still in the bearish period, it is always a good time to buy whenever there is a big dump.



>>: https://worldcoin.org/articles/china-crypto-ban

1147  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I Use Emergency funds or Sell my Assets ? on: July 19, 2023, 08:42:07 PM
I reluctantly followed the counsel of a financial advisor to fix my finances in order by creating a budget and tracking my expenses, inflow and outflow of cash using an excel sheet.
Why do you feel unhappy to follow the suggestion?
I think it is a good suggestion to analyze our income and outcome by using the excel sheet. In this way, we can minimize the unnecessary spending and realize whenever we need more side jobs the increase the income. If you are in a financial problem, there is nothing wrong to follow the suggestion although it seems a bit complicated to do.

The economy has been crazy in my country so I needed to do something urgently. My greatest realization after this is that inflation all round is destroying my budget.
What the problem you are facing exactly?
If it is about the increase of your spending, you just need to adjust the priority. Eliminate which one is not really necessary, keep the allocation for the urgent needs only.

By the way, if you think that you need to use your savings/emergency funds, just spend some of the money. If you still have emergency funds, just keep your assets. IMHO, only sell the assets if you have no fiats, no savings, and no emergency funds.

1148  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Minimum Age to gamble on: July 19, 2023, 08:22:55 PM
maturity of the person sometimes depend on how he live his life. but of course, casinos are just making a general approach on this matter. so they are stating that you should be 18 years old and above before you can play. and that because they are following also the protocol of their jurisdiction. this may vary from country to country. but we usually see the age to be at 18 years old as the cut-off on this minimum age.
Yep, besides educational background and the support from parents, how someone lives will determine the maturity. His neighborhood also contributes for the maturity of someone. Since there are many factors, it is quite difficult to determine the maturity of someone. However, the approach of the casinos are good enough, 18 years old should be the age that someone is mature enough. Someone is already in the university when he is 18 years old.

Indeed, the policy of the minimum age of a gambler can be different among the countries in the world. It depends on how the governments view the ideal age for someone that can be considered mature enough to join gambling. However, in many countries, it is true that 18 years old is mostly the minimum age.

1149  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 19, 2023, 08:11:46 PM
Pochettino cannot - I repeat, CANNOT sign in Harry Maguire for even the least penny... I don't really wish being a Thorn on his flesh buh he's not organised and can easily be replaced by any regular street footballer. What kinda player/defender scores more own goals ?? Sometimes I wonder what UTD really saw in him that caught thier fancy, honestly.
Agree. Pochettino mustn't sign him although his transfer fee will be cheap, even for free.  Grin
There is no advantage to add a controversial player on the squad, it just ruins the squad quality. His reputation that often made own goals will scary any team, I can't believe how the feelings of Chelsea players to have Maguire on their squad. Man United players already got some severe losses because of Maguire's own goals. Everyone in Chelsea squad must be unsatisfied if Chelsea management really signs him.

Talking a out the usefulness of Maguire, I am confident the English defender will be useful to many clubs. He is just finding it difficult to adapt to Erik style.
It is not about the usefulness but the uselessness of him. I doubt if he will be useful for many clubs, how he will bring the advantage for the clubs if he made own goals?  Grin  No, it is not about his adaptation, it is about his lack of skills/mentality.

It won't be wise for him to remain at the club after his captain title has been removed~
He even mostly spent time on the bench, not only removed as a captain.

Maguire mightn't just do well at the Chelsea defense as he's doing when playing for england.
He may play better in England national team, but I am sure England can play better without him.  Grin
No mate, just don't expect much about him to play well in Chelsea. If there are other options, Chelsea is better to sign other defenders.

1150  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How do I avoid and identify scams? on: July 19, 2023, 07:52:53 PM
Don’t trust altcoins in the market as they can’t be trustable and stay valuable for long. Most of them are just too good to be true at first and after seeing some crashes in the market, eventually altcoins have start to lose their value and end us shitcoins. Instead, focus and prioritize bitcoin. Bitcoin has been the most trusted crypto in the market, you will never go wrong with it.
Not all altcoins are bad, there are some altcoins can be trusted. There is nothing wrong to trust the top altcoins such as ETH, ADA, BNB, XRP, SOL, TRX, MATIC, DOT, or XLM. As long as the altcoins have good fundamentals or they have great developers/owners, we can believe that the altcoins can survive a long time. We just avoid to invest in shitcoins, meme coins, or the new coins that have weak fundamentals/no fundamentals. Those altcoins which only rely on the hype are better to avoid.

Sure, the safest coin to invest for the long holding, Bitcoin is the best choice. Everyone must have Bitcoin in their crypto assets, it should be the main asset for holding. As Bitcoin is the king of crypto coin, it always deserves to be prioritized. However, I'm sure many people won't miss the chance to take high profits on good altcoins as well.

1151  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [Untuk Newbie] Alasan Untuk Tidak Trading Uang Pinjam on: July 18, 2023, 09:59:59 PM
Lebih nyaman lagi kalo menggunakan uang pribadi yang memang tidak dialokasikan buat sesuatu apapun (duit nganggur), sehingga untuk kemungkinan resikonya bisa lebih diterima jika hal itu benar-benar terjadi dan tidak menyebabkan efek berantai.

Btw dengan modal kecil masih bisa diharapkan untuk potensi profit yang gede, namun harus siap dengan konsekuensinya (modal lenyap) karena model investasi lebih mengarah kepada spekulasi pada portfolio koin/token micin.
Iya, uang pribadi yang memang bukan untuk kebutuhan pokok. Yang kita sering bilang yaitu uang lebihan, jadi tidak akan ada pengaruh meskipun kita rugi nantinya. Untuk yang paling aman, adalah dengan cara menggunakan uang ini. Tapi saya yakin jika sudah sering profit, orang-orang cenderung menggunakan uang lebih banyak dan mungkin bisa saja menggunakan uang untuk kebutuhan pokok. Hal seperti ini yang kadang-kadang bisa menimbulkan bahaya untuk stabilitas keuangan rumah tangga.

Betul. Modal kecil bisa untung besar itu hanya mungkin untuk koin micin jika itu jangka pendek. Tapi jika invest long term, bisa saja untung besar dari koin-koin top dengan harga yang masih murah.

Ada beberapa hal yang ane pahami berdasarkan pengalaman temen ane yang terlilit utang di pinjol. Temen ane ini ane anggap sudah pro dan cukup menguasai pasar. Tapi tetap saja sekitar 7 bulan lalu ane dapat telepon dari pinjol kalau temen ane tersebut nunggak dan harus bayar utang beserta bunga. Ane heran, padahal temen ane itu udah pro dan bahkan sambil merem pun dia bisa profit, akan tetapi karena mungkin minjamnya via pinjol tadi sehingga tdk dapat menerima tekanan ditelpon tiap hari walau belum batas waktu pelunasan. Sehingga stress, dan biasanya dia dapat profit malah jadi tidak untung ketika trading dalam tekanan pinjol.
Meskipun teman ente trader pro, dia tidak bisa menjamin pasti untung setiap saat. Bisa saja sebelumnya bisa terus untung karena target TPnya tidak terlalu tinggi. Setelah dia pake uang pinjol, dia menaikkan target TP, akhirnya malah itu blunder untuk dirinya sendiri. Trend market dan harga crypto akan selalu fluktuatif/unpredictable, trader pro pun tidak bisa menghindari hal ini. Jika teman ente terlalu greedy, bisa saja ujung-ujungnya loss juga karena targetnya tidak realistis seperti biasanya.

1152  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Minimum Age to gamble on: July 18, 2023, 09:58:21 PM
18 year old limit is probably good enough to apply as 18 year old person would at least understand he/themself is the reason he lost and its not the end of the world. I think gambling addiction itself is bit too exeggarated because its one of the most visible ones. Addictions are always bad. Its good to educate kids and make them at least wait for 18-20 ages so they can freely enjoy gambling with properly knowing how bad addiction is.
Indeed. That's why in most casinos, the minimum age to gamble is 18 years old. When someone is already 18 years old, we can assume he is mature enough and has good mentality. But in certain casinos, the age limit can be 20 years old, it is because they are not sure if 18 years old is mature enough. Whatever the age limit, I agree that 18-20 ages are the ideal age limit for someone to play in a casino. We can't make sure 100% that someone is mature enough at a certain age. However, commonly someone should be mature enough when they are already 18 years old.


1153  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 18, 2023, 09:52:45 PM
I read a news report where it was rumored that Chelsea will table a bid for Maguire well if it real I think that will be a better alternative for him (Maguire) to leave instead of sitting on the bench at Man Utd after stripping him the captainship band and this could affect his international career having been one of the favorite player of Southgate Moreso the duo of Varane and Martinez had a solid partnership at the central defence of Man Utd last season consequently subjected Maguire to the bench hopefully they will retain their position this season, Evans a former club defender had also been signed by Erik ten Hag on a short term loan deal thus will definitely be another competitor to Maguire thus he will have a limited playing time.
I doubt if Chelsea really want to sign Maguire. There is nothing special about this player, he is just a controversial defender. I'm sure it is a rumor only, Chelsea will never try to negotiate with Man United to sign Maguire. Anyway, I agree that Maguire is better to leave Man United because he is probably difficult to get a chance playing regularly there. Not sure which team is serious to sign him, but he should leave if there is an offer from other teams. His career won't be better if he stays in Man United, he can't compete with Varane and Martinez.

1154  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BTC or altcoin on: July 17, 2023, 09:59:27 PM
For my roadmap btc hold for long time and short time invest for altcoins. If you can hold some top coin for in bull market then you couldn’t missed profits. But yes absolutely trust altcoins market will make pump but need to up btc first.
Sure, most people invest in Bitcoin for a long term holding. But I think it is not a bad idea to invest in top altcoins for a long term holding, too. ETH, ADA, SOL, MATIC, TRX, or XLM look quite potential to hold for a long time. They have strong fundamentals and big community, they also still have some good developments until now. However, if you want to hold BTC only for the long term holding, it is your own right. I can agree that Bitcoin is the safest coin for investment, especially for a long term investment.

Indeed. Altcoins trend follows Bitcoin trend, the altcoins season probably happen after Bitcoin halving. If there is no significant increase in BTC price, it is difficult to have altcoins season.

1155  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should I buy now or I should still wait for the dip? on: July 17, 2023, 09:54:59 PM
I wanted to start my bitcoin investment journey but I look at it that the price is still high to start the investment and I am waiting for the price to go down to $20k to $25k or below. Is that a procrastination?
Why do you think BTC price is high now? You must understand that its ATH is about $68k-$69k, the current price isn't a half of its ATH ($29-$30k). So, I think the current price of BTC is still cheap. If you expect to buy when the price is below $25k or even below $20k, I think it won't happen again. IMHO, BTC price won't drop below $25k again, it looks quite stable to survive above $30k. Even if it may drop below $30k, it is likely to stay above $25k.

Bitcoin price was good to invest last year which was $16k to $19k but I was not having cash to start the journey but now that I have small cash let me start the investment.
Don't feel disappointed! You still have a chance to buy at a cheap price. Although you missed the opportunity to buy below $20k, you probably still have a chance to buy below $30k. Just wait for the next dump, I'm sure there will be a dump after a pump of Bitcoin price in the last few days. You can buy Bitcoin gradually, don't spend all your money at once.

1156  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 17, 2023, 09:43:16 PM
This time Barcelona will have a harder season because Real Madrid gut much better players and they are trying hard to improve their performance for the next season. However, the Barcelona we saw in the last season with Xavi, got enough strength to even race for the champions league.
Although Real Madrid has better players, I doubt they will perform well if Real Madrid fail to sign Mbappe. I know Real Madrid already signed Joselu, but I think his quality isn't enough to compete with Barcelona. If we compare Lewandowski quality and Joselu, everyone must be aware that Lewandowski is 1 level above Joselu.

When Lewandowski left Bayern Munich for Barcelona some people were the thing he won't have the same performance in Barcelona also since he is an old player, they were thinking buying Lewandowski was not a smart move at all. While the fact about Lewandowski is he just needs some time to adapt himself to his new team. However, I think since he getting old, Barcelona should start seeking another forward soon.
Lewandowski still performed with his best, people who doubted him may not know him well. Although Lewandowski is no longer a young player, it is not a problem as long as he is still productive. We know that Ronaldo still played well when he is in the same age with Lewandowski. I think Lewandowski can play well in the next 2 years.

If Mbappe really like to play for Real Madrid he will definitely join his season in this season or the next season and he will not accept the offer from PSG to extend his contract even if they pay him more money for the next contract. But I think Real Madrid should think about an Alternative option for Mbappe.
I think Mbappe can move to Real Madrid if he doesn't extend his contract with PSG. I'm sure PSG will try to sell him as soon as possible in the current transfer window. They already try to get his replacement, you must hear that PSG is trying to sign Harry Kane. This is a sign that Mabppe may leave PSG in the near future.

1157  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 17, 2023, 09:25:22 PM
Inter continue to be in search of a striker now. They aren't going for Lukaku anymore as you know. I have read that they are after Morata or Balogun signings. Morata is already willing to leave Atletico Madrid and join an Italian team again. He is 30 years old with way bigger experience than Balogun technically. But when it comes to scoring skills I don't side with Morata too much. Because he isn't the kind of a striker that scores so many goals in a season. He is doing better with a striker beside him as well.

In terms of this situation he can fit Inter's formation nicely. But Balogun has a really bright future on one hand. He was impressive in the Ligue 1 last season with 21 goals. I guess Arsenal would only loan him to them rather than a permanent deal for now. I wonder which side Inter will choose.
I don't know why Inter Milan prefer to choose Morata or Balogun. In my opinion, Lukaku is much better and more productive than Morata or Balogun. Lukaku already played in Inter Milan for a few years, he doesn't need to adapt with Inter squad anymore. Lukaku also proved that he is a good striker and can be a machine goal for Inter Milan, he already scored some goals since he played in Inter Milan. Actually, it is a bit confusing why Inter Milan doesn't want to sign Lukaku.

Anyway, I am not familiar with Balogun. Although he can score 21 goals in Ligue 1, I am not sure he will easily score many goals in Serie A. The level of Ligue 1 and Serie A is different, he also needs to adapt with Inter play of style.

1158  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin trading and gambling on: July 16, 2023, 09:59:15 PM
Bitcoin cannot be classified as gambling. While there may be similarities in terms of uncertainty and volatility, there are fundamental differences between bitcoin trading and gambling. Gambling is largely dependent on luck and chance, where outcomes are determined by random factors beyond an individual's control. In contrast, bitcoin trading involves analysis, research, and informed decision-making based on market trends, technical indicators, and fundamental analysis.
It is true, trading or investing in Bitcoin isn't like gambling. It requires sufficient knowledge and experience although it also needs a strong mentality. But in Bitcoin trading/investment, we can't rely on the luck. It is much different with gambling that mostly relies on the luck. We probably fail in Bitcoin trading/investment if we have no skills, good understanding, analysis, and proper strategy. All of these things can only be obtained if we have adequate knowledge. No profits without knowledge and experience, it is what we must understand in Bitcoin trading/investment. While in gambling, we can play the games although we have zero knowledge about it. There are gambling games that we call as luck-based games, everyone can play the games. Even in skilled-based games, the luck still has a big role in gambling.

1159  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [LOG] List Rank Up Member Indonesia (Member - Legendary) on: July 16, 2023, 09:55:46 PM
Selamat kepada @komisariatku, @ndutndut, @Ryu_Ar1, @zaim7413, @armanda90 dan @puloweh yang sudah berhasil mencapai peringkat barunya. Semoga makin banyak member-member Indonesia yang termotivasi dan bisa terus konsisten meramaikan SFI. Sekali lagi ini membuktikan bahwa merit itu bukan hal yang rumit dan naik rank itu bukan sesuatu yang sulit. Selama ada usaha, pasti akan ada sebuah kesuksesan.

Boleh ga si gan membuat  Count Down di thread ini? Semoga di perbolehkan, kalo misalkan tidak tolong saya di beri tahu
Boleh atau tidaknya tentu agan harus konsultasi dulu ke OP nya (Om @roycilik). Tapi kalau berdasarkan deskripsi di halaman awal, thread ini dibuat secara khusus untuk melist member-member SFI yang naik peringkat. Tujuannya untuk memotivasi dan memberi apresiasi ke pada member-member SFI. Sepertinya tidak ada tujuannya untuk count-down next rank level. Setau saya, untuk count-down ini sudah ada threadnya di global.

1160  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Appropriate percentage of income for gambling on: July 14, 2023, 08:33:42 PM
This is something that we often discuss. Sure, it is better to limit the amount of money to avoid gambling excessively. The ideal of gambling budget may be different among people, but personally I also never use more than 5% of my weekly income. That's because I don't gamble daily, I just gamble when I have spare time. I assume people who gamble on daily basis can spend more money. They can use more than 30% if they don't limit the budget for gambling weekly.

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