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1201  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Don't Force Your Children to Learn Bitcoin on: June 08, 2023, 09:18:25 PM
Introducing children to the changing global financial landscape and the concept of Bitcoin can really be valuable, as it helps them understand the evolving digital economy. Determining the appropriate age to introduce such topics can vary depending on a child's maturity, ability to understand complex concepts, and prior knowledge of finance. While 15 years old can be considered a good starting point for introducing children to Bitcoin, it is important to evaluate each child individually. Some children may be ready to grasp concepts earlier, while others may need more time. It is essential to consider their level of interest, cognitive ability, and willingness to handle financial and investment discussions.
Global financial and the Bitcoin concept aren't proper topics for Children. Children only learn simple things, those topics are too complicated for them. I think we only tell them something general about Bitcoin if we really want to share the information with them. Maybe we can show them the picture or tell them that Bitcoin is one of the digital currencies. For further information, we can tell them after they are mature enough, sure it should be above 15 years old. We must adjust the topic to share with them, don't force sharing too complicated information.



Note that the age of children is around 1-12 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_development

1202  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 08, 2023, 09:03:08 PM
It is very surprising news for me to hear that Messi is about to sign for Inter Miami. A month from now he is going to be a player for them officially. All things have happened really quickly honestly and I wasn't expecting him to make a quick decision on his future. Because as I said every time he was prioritizing to return to Barcelona and Xavi stated how eager he was to see him there again as well.
It is official already that Messi will join Inter Miami. So, it is clear that he won't return to Barcelona, he will go to MLS.
By the way, I'm also surprised by Messi's decision. I'm not really familiar with Inter Miami, not sure why Messi wants to join this team. The performance of this team in MLS looks not really convincing, no popular players or star players there. Messi probably decides to join Inter Miami too hurry, I'm not sure he will stay a long time there.

While there were positive developments in air about that I suddenly heard about this deal. I mean Messi didn't even choose Saudi Arabia for a huge deal of money despite being okay to Europe obviously. I don't know how much he will make now but I thought MLS would be his last choice in the near future.
I also heard that Messi was linked with a top club from Saudi and they made a huge offer. But Messi seems not interested to play in Saudi Pro League. He refused to break the record for the highest salary of football players in the world. And Messi also refused to compete with Ronaldo again in the same league.
Well, I hope Messi won't regret his decision to choose MLS.

1203  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: June 08, 2023, 08:46:48 PM
Roma did their best during the Europa League but it wasn't enough to win the title unfortunately. But still I can't call this season as successful for Roma. After winning the Europa Conference League title the expectations from Mourinho got bigger as a result. A Champions League ticket was the target as of the beginning of the season. I'm sure the board didn't care about how they get it. They messed it up in the Serie A by losing unexpected points in many matches which blocked the way for top 4.
Of course, Roma is unsuccessful this season. They failed to finish in the UCL zone in Serie A and they couldn't win the Europa final match. In the early season, we expected AS Roma to compete for the top 4 in Serie A. And When they reached the final round in Europa League, we also expected AS Roma to win 1 title at least during this season. But toward the end of the season, something happened to this team, they became so weak and failed to win in many matches. In Serie A, they only won 1 time in the latest 5 matches and they were defeated by Sevilla in Europa League final. All of this makes Mourinho feel frustrated, that's why he makes another controversial action again.  Roll Eyes

1204  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: June 07, 2023, 09:46:46 PM
Iya betul gan, news akan tetap berpengaruh terhadap pergerakan harga. Kalo menurut saya sampe ahir tahun ini btc ada di rentang harga 20k-35k. Jika bisa terkoreksi turun ke 20k, Disitu moment untuk btc naik gila-gilaan ke 40K. Saya tidak bisa ber-analisa banyak, tapi feellingku begitu, Btc akan terkoreksi ke 20k atu 22k sebelum naik tajam
News selalu punya pengaruh besar untuk memicu up atau down harga di market. Entah itu good news atau bad news, dua-duanya kadang bisa merubah trend market secara instan. Namun, kebanyakan hanya berpengaruh sementara waktu, jadi tidak ada masalah jika target kita long-term. Untuk rentang harga dari sekarang sampe akhir tahun, harusnya yang tertinggi maksimal bisa di atas $40k dan titik terendah di atas $25k.

Tidak si gan, tetapi btc selalu butuh moment untuk naik maupun turun tajam. menurutku hal-hal yang akan memicu pergerakan btc secara masif itu di isu Halving, Gagal bayar amerika, dan perkembangan perang rusia vs ukraina.
Momen akan selalu ada, tidak hanya sebatas halving. Tapi isu seperti Amerika gagal bayar utang dan perang, sepertinya tidak terlalu signifikan lagi pengaruhnya. Saya perhatikan masalah perang Rusia vs Ukraina sudah tidak berimbas ke market. Kecuali jika isu-isu tersebut menimbulkan dampak turunan yang membuat polemik baru untuk crypto, seperti pelarangan crypto akibat tuduhan bantuan perang.

Kalo menurutku sih kita tidak sedang dalam fase bearish, namun kondisi market memang sedang terjadi koreksi dan ada kecenderungan bahwa pasar akan menuju ke fase konsolidasi. Namun jika mengacu pada time frame yang lebih lebar (dari awal tahun 2023), sejatinya kita masih berada dalam fase bullish  Grin
Kalau siklus 4 tahunan kita bagi 2, 2022-2023 harusnya fase bearish dan 2024-2025 itu fase bullish. Cuman ini hanya hitungan kasarannya, realitanya tergantung banyak faktor dan ukuran bearish-bullish itu juga bisa relatif. Jadi asumsi tiap orang bisa saja berbeda tergantung dari sisi mana melihatnya.  Wink

1205  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: what happened to the market today? on: June 07, 2023, 09:31:10 PM
i was surprised to see the market today, everything fell in a short time, bitcoin fell around $1000 very fast and looking at coinmarketcap, all coins are red.  a few days ago bitcoin rose slowly, but today was very surprising. What happen today? Roll Eyes
Bitcoin failed to pass $28k, so it drops again to $25k. I think it is still understandable, we are in the sideways phase and the price needs some corrections before it skyrockets again. As long as Bitcoin price doesn't drop below $20k, I think we shouldn't be so worried about the current market condition. Many altcoins dropped their prices because they followed Bitcoin trend. It is still in Q2, I think it is normal if Bitcoin rises slowly. It may increase faster when we are in Q3 or Q4 of this year.

The SEC also alleged that a number of other tokens, including the native coins for the Solana (SOL), Cardano (ADA), Polygon (MATIC), Coti (COTI) and Algorand blockchains (ALGO), Filecoin network (FIL), Cosmos hub (ATOM), and Decentraland (MANA) are securities.
What's wrong with these altcoins? Are there serious problems with them as well?
The way of SEC accuses more top coins seems a bit strange. Do they cooperate with the whales to spread FUDs? So the whales to get more chances to collect more coins at cheaper prices. Or it is only fake news made by the media, so it is untrue that SEC accuses the tokens.

1206  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: June 07, 2023, 09:16:15 PM
Inter Milan aren't really an attacking team, of course they have their own way of approaching games and getting goals, but they are not the kind of team that holds possession and attacks constantly, they do not have the necessary quality in their squad to do that. Having said that, there's no doubt that Inter would park the bus against City, even most of the best clubs in the world would do that, when you come up against City you have to respect them and accept the fact that they would control most aspects of the game, Inter have to do one thing, defend and wait to hurt City on the counter.
Sure. Inter Milan isn't a typical team that plays very offensively, most Italian teams prefer to play defensively. Moreover, if they play against a team with many strong attackers like Man City, they must choose a counter-attack strategy. They will focus on their defense first, they will attack when they have a good chance only. It will be a wrong idea to play offensively against a team like Man City, they will be defeated automatically.  Grin

However, if Man City attackers become frustrated because of Inter strong defense, it will be a chance for Inter to score and win the match. Man City should be busy attacking as much as possible, they may lose focus on their defense. So, there is always a chance for Inter to score if they can use a counter-attack strategy effectively.

1207  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 07, 2023, 09:04:41 PM
Its really wierd how badly Saudi Arabia wants their league to become so popular. They are wasting too many millions on many players and dont care how much they the players ask. If Kante gets a contract from Chelsea he would probobly stay but if no top clubs offer him a deal he will probobly go to saudi arabia.
They are rich and they have no problem spending huge money on the sports business. Their purpose isn't only to make their league to be more popular, they also try to strengthen their squad to compete for the title. Although they spend too much money, I don't think it will be a serious problem as long as it doesn't break the rules. The top players who move to Saudi Pro League aren't in 1 club, they move to some different clubs. So, I think it doesn't break the rules of player transfers.

Regarding Kante, I think he is better to move to Saudi if Chelsea future seems unconvincing. It is no longer a strong team as he ever played before, Chelsea decreased so much their performance this season. After Abramovich left the club, Chelsea condition became worse. Kante deserves to play in a better team, he gets a better salary in Saudi at least.

1208  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How i can manage my job and my Bitcoin Trading at the same time? on: June 06, 2023, 09:59:37 PM
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How i can manage my job and my Bitcoin Trading at the same time?
Firstly, please make this question clearer, mate.
Do you mean to do your job as a teacher and trading together at the same time?
It is impossible, mate. You need to spare your time for trading, trading needs a focus and it is not a so easy job. I think you can trade at home after your job is over already. How long you spend time for trading, it depends on you. If you are busy, you just spend a few hours for trading. Time for trading is quite adjustable, it isn't like the time for teaching students.

~my friend told me about the Bitcointalk forum in start working on bounties but not earned any money yet~
If you joined the bounties paid in new altcoins, it makes sense if you still can't earn any money. We rarely have good bounties paid in new altcoins, most of them are just weak projects or scam projects. After the bounty is over, most of the projects never announce when they list their tokens/coins on an exchange. Finally, many of them disappear, the developers/teams are gone.

Most forum members prefer to join signature paid in BTC nowadays. But you need to rank up to be eligible as the participants. In most signature campaigns, the minimum rank needed is Full member or Senior member.

~what is an effective way to start?
I suggest you are focused on learning first. You can learn how to trade properly from some threads in this forum (take a look at Trading Discussion board), read articles, or watch YT videos. Then, after you think you already understand the basic knowledge of trading, you should start trading with small money first. Your focus is to get enough experience. When you already trade for many times and you know well how to trade properly, you can start to use a bigger capital.

1209  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: June 06, 2023, 09:49:36 PM
Kalo menurut saya si harga bitcoin akan stack (atau segitu-gitu aja) atau bisa jadi malah masih akan turun. Untuk kenaikan yang signifikan atau sampai ATH baru, saya pikir itu masih belum keliatan tanda-tandanya. Apagi nanti kalo amerika beneran gagal bayar utangnya, bisa jadi bitcoin lebih turun tajam atau malah naik tajam karena fiat sedang tidak baik-baik saja di saat itu terjadi.
Mungkin saja stuck atau sideways berkepanjangan tapi bukan berarti harga sama sekali tidak naik. Saya kira harga tetap akan naik turun di kisaran $25k-$28k jika tidak ada bad news atau good news yang berarti. Pertanyaannya, sampai kapan sideways ini berlanjut? IMO mungkin sampai akhir Q2 atau sampai awal Q3. Harusnya di akhir Q3 dan Q4 harga sudah kelihatan progresnya naik di kisaran $40k.

Apa bullrun seasion ditentukan Amerika? Menurut saya, paling pengaruhnya sesaat jikapun Amerika gagal bayar utang. Isu-isu semacam ini memang biasa ada yang melintir atau digoreng untuk bikin harga drop. Tapi idealnya progres kenaikan harga menjelang halving tetap berlangsung. Bullrun harusnya tidak bergantung dengan kondisi fiat.

Potensi bearish memang akan selalu ada, namun jika masih dikisaran $25K saya kira ini hanya merupakan koreksi yang wajar. Yang perlu diperhitungkan adalah jika harga kembali menyentuh area support 20K, yang mana jika area support ini jebol, maka ada kemungkinan untuk tercipta bottom baru.
Kita memang masih di fase bearish, Om. Cuman ini masalah durasinya, tidak jelas kapan waktu berakhirnya. Meskipun halving mungkin bisa jadi momentum untuk perubahan season, tapi bisa jadi banyak yang panik kalau harga sampe drop lagi di bawah $20k untuk waktu yang lama. Kepanikan ini bisa saja membuat recovery market berlangsung lebih lambat. Tapi ya semoga saja ndak sampe terjadi.

1210  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: would you play more on casino when your country plans to ban BTC? on: June 06, 2023, 09:32:48 PM
while your country plans to ban crypto trading but online gambling legal, you'll gonna to decide what to do with coins.  would you go play your coins to accumulate or just withdraw and wait for the government to change stance?  no other option.
This won't happen in my country. Here, people prefer to trade crypto than play gambling. And the government supports trading more than gambling. So, it is impossible for our government to ban trading. But if it really happens, I prefer to withdraw. Playing more in casinos won't increase the chance to get bigger money, it even leads to addiction and loss of more money. You must remember that we must have good management to allocate money for gambling. Increase suddenly the allocation of money in casinos won't be a good idea, it is not the right way to multiply money.

1211  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 06, 2023, 09:24:09 PM
if harry kane continues to refuse Madrid's offer then he will only waste his energy on Tottenham, however Madrid is the dream team of many star players and has won many competitions very often, while tottenham is a team that until now has not been able to give kane a trophy. after benzema officially joined al ittihad, madrid had to get a replacement striker before the 23/24 season started.
Not sure why Harry Kane doesn't want to accept Real Madrid offer, is there an official statement from him about this?
Agree, Harry Kane will be difficult to win any trophy in Tottenham. If he still has a dream to win a trophy, he must leave Tottenham. But if he only wants to play without any expectation to be a winner, he can stay in Tottenham forever.

Sure, Real Madrid must sign a top striker to replace Benzema's role. If Harry Kane refuses the offer, Real Madrid must look for another striker as their target. Mbappe, Vlhaovic, Lautaro Martinez, and Victor Osimhen are some best options to replace Benzema. Real Madrid can make offers to these players as well.

Well, Benzema is on the right team to show his best in Saudi Pro League. He is lucky that Al Ittihad gave a big offer for him. Benzema also will get a big salary there. So, I am pretty sure that Benzema will experience a great season in Saudi the next season.  Smiley

1212  Economy / Speculation / Re: Correction from $30K: Reason to worry? on: June 06, 2023, 09:10:33 PM
Exactly, we have nothing to worry about the current market conditions, we are planning a DCA strategy of adding assets because the market is very volatile at the moment but it is likely to correct below 25k, but I really hope bitcoin never returns to 20k because of the bad impact on the bitcoin price before halving, there's no telling what the next low will be as bitcoin has been holding on to lows for the last 2 years.
Indeed. If you plan for a long-term investment, you don't need to worry because the price drop temporarily. In the next few days or weeks, the price probably increases again gradually. And in the next few months, we may see a significant change in the price. The price drop/dump is normal, it is needed to reach the next higher price. After we have some pumps previously, it needs time for corrections. After this drop and sideways are over, we may have some pumps again in the future. Regarding the chance of the price drop to $20k, I think it won't happen. The price looks trying to stay above $25k, today it returns again above $26k. If the price never returns to $20k, we probably won't have a long time to pass again $30k.

1213  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: June 05, 2023, 09:59:15 PM
Seperti yang pernah saya singgung sebelumnya, jika pada Q2-Q3 tahun ini tidak terjadi momen bearish, maka dipenghujung tahun nanti berpotensi besar terjadi bullrun kuat. Namun jika melihat kondisi pasar saat ini, fase sideways yang terjadi bisa menjadi titik permulaan untuk terjadinya bullish lebih awal, dengan kondisi tidak muncul FUD dan isu-isu negatif.
BTW malahan harga BTC makin drop, hari ini turun ke kisaran $25k. Apa dengan kondisi seperti ini tanda-tanda market akan semakin cepat pulih? Kalau harga makin sulit naik ke atas $30k, saya malah berpikir bullrun makin jauh. Untuk mencapai harga di atas $60k saja butuh waktu, apalagi untuk mencapai ATH barunya.

Yang saya pahami biasanya bullish atau bullrun ini terjadi pasca halving. Tapi memang batas bearish dan bullish itu tidak jelas, hanya sebatas asumsi/perkiraan.
Kalau berdasarkan historisnya memang seperti itu. Hanya saja tidak ada yang pasti terkait kapan bullrun akan datang, bisa tahun ini atau tahun depan. Atau bisa jadi malah di tahun 2025. Seperti yang Om Abhi jelaskan, cepat lambatnya juga bergantung isu/news. Jika tidak ada bad news yang berarti, maka bullrun mungkin datang lebih cepat.

1214  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2022/2023 on: June 05, 2023, 09:53:36 PM
Karim Benzema's Al Ittihad deal confirmed. The striker left Real Madrid and joined Al Ittihad of the Saudi League. Not only Karim Benzema has joined the Saudi league from Europe, there are also chances of several famous players. Lionel Messi and Sergio Ramos are expected to join the Saudi league later on. Since Messi's situation is almost uncertain, but Sergio Ramos is very likely to join the Saudi league. So after Karim Benzema, maybe Sergio Ramos will be far ahead in the direction of the Saudi League.
Yep, I read on some top media that Benzema already accepted the offer from Al Ittihad. It means he will play in Saudi Pro League, he will compete for the title in the same league as Ronaldo. It will be interesting who will be the top scorer in Saudi Pro League in the next season. If Messi also moves to Saudi, there are 3 top players who will be the candidates for the top scorer (Ronaldo, Messi, Benzema).

By the way, I already heard the news that Ramos is likely to move to Saudi but I don't know in which team he will play. But for Messi, I assume it is too many rumors about him. So, it is unclear whether he really wants to move to Saudi or he will join another team in Europa. I also read the news that Messi is possible to return to Barcelona.

1215  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 05, 2023, 09:44:29 PM
Actually I wouldn't call Kane useless. Yeah he has played for Tottenham for so many years and he has zero titles in hand. But his individual performance has always been impressive. For example this season. Despite their not even being able to qualify for a European tournament Kane still scored 30 goals. I think this is very amazing.

Kane just insisted on staying there all the time. But after this kind of a season I think he absolutely deserves a much bigger team and titles finally. Real Madrid are one of the teams which can give him exactly what he wants. However I still expect him to stay in England and join Manchester United probably.
I agree with you. Kane is absolutely a good striker, he scored many goals in Tottenham. Kane already contributed a lot for Tottenham, but he can't win any title because Tottenham has no proper squad to be a champion. Kane also performed quite well for England national team, he is always the main striker there. So, it doesn't make sense if someone says him "a useless striker".  Cheesy

Yep. He deserves to move to a bigger team, Real Madrid will be the perfect club for him. Since Real Madrid often wins top trophies, Harry Kane has a big chance to win the trophy/title if he becomes a part of Real Madrid squad. I hope he really moves to Real Madrid for the next season.

1216  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Your favorite season to trade cryptocurrency? on: June 04, 2023, 09:58:22 PM
It all depends on how good you are because there are traders that make more during the bear and the same goes for some that do it better in the bull run.
But if I'll speak for myself, I'd say that it's during the bull run. Because it's like easy to predict what will happen as most of the coins in the market are going to be up thanks to the bull season.
You are right. If someone has good skills in trading, he can get profits both in bearish and bullish seasons. The chance for profits can come at any time, it doesn't depend on the season. However, since the prices tend to drop during the bearish season, the chance for profits isn't as many as in the bullish season. So, it is true that we are easier to predict the price pump/increase during the bullish season than in the bearish season. That's why many people become more active to trade in the bullrun season.

1217  Economy / Economics / Re: Financial education or 1million dollars on: June 04, 2023, 09:50:37 PM
I'm not saying that it has to be 1 million dollars in this case but of course we realize that when we want a proper education then we need money to determine that.
Of course, we need money for education. Whether it is big money or small money, it depends on government policy related to educational programs. In some countries, it may be expensive but in other countries, it may be a bit affordable for the society.

Not meaning to say people who don't have money don't have the right to education, but what I emphasize in this case is good education for now based on big finances and that is a fact that cannot be denied.
Nothing is free in getting something especially when talking about education. I don't know about education in other countries, but for now in my country, if I really want to do good education (good education), I have to do it quite expensively as payment for that education.
It is also the same in my country. If we want to get an education in our favorite schools (mostly private schools), we must spend a lot of money. But if we only want to get an education in public schools as average people, it can be cheaper. However, the public schools in my country are good enough, you can get proper education there.

1218  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: June 04, 2023, 09:36:38 PM
Benzema is a legend and will forever be remembered by the Madrid strong supporters. After Ronaldo left the club, he stepped into the boots he left back, Real Madrid will need another player to step into the boots that Benzema will leave, Rodrygo does not look like it, he missed a good goal opportunity from a ball passed to him by Vinicius in their game today against Bilbao. Real Madrid will increase their efforts to sign a new player that can score, they cannot depend on Rodrygo.
Sure, Benzema is one of Real Madrid legends. Benzema replaced Ronaldo's role perfectly, the club relied on him after Ronaldo was leaving. Now, we don't see any player who can replace Benzema's role when Benzema leaves the club. Real Madrid needs a player who has the same capability as Benzema. I heard Real Madrid will try to sign Harry Kane. Since Kane's role in Tottenham is almost similar to Benzema, it is a great idea to sign Harry Kane. But Real Madrid must spend a lot of money and try to negotiate more seriously. I guess Tottenham won't easily accept Real Madrid offer although it is a big offer.  Grin

1219  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 04, 2023, 09:26:50 PM
Arsenal have left a dreamlike season behind. This must be their most consistent season in the recent years despite the point losses on last weeks of the season. Because I never remember them getting this much close to even win the EPL title. Arsenal have really young players in general. There are only two 30-year-old players and one 31-year-old player.
Arsenal often did a worse performance in 2nd half of the season. It didn't only happen this season, they also did it in the previous seasons. I think Arsenal must consider strengthening the squad with more experienced players, they don't focus on young players only. Besides the tactics, the players' mentality brings a big impact on the match. Experienced players have a better mentality than young players, it is what Arsenal lost this season on their squad. They have too small squad and have too few experienced players.

Despite this fact Arteta did an incredible work by keeping the team focused on the main target. In fact I don't think their main target was to win the league title. It was rather to join the Champions League undoubtedly.
Yep. Arteta has done a great job although he failed to win the EPL title. He deserves to manage Arsenal a longer time, he can win a title in the future if he has a better squad. His main target should be winning the title, not only participating in UCL.

1220  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: When is the next altcoin season? on: June 02, 2023, 09:06:58 PM
Altcoin sessions generally coincide after the Bitcoin session grows towards its highs.
Sometimes there are also several Altcoins that spearhead price increases to show the trend of certain projects that are being requested by traders.
You are right. Altcoins season mostly happens after Bitcoin halving. In theory, it happens after Bitcoin reaches its ATH. But there is a possibility that some altcoins may reach their ATH faster. There are some factors that can lead an altcoin to reach ATH, one of the factors is the hype. When an altcoin to list on a top exchange, they mostly increase significantly. This can make an altcoin achieves its ATH although it is still not altcoin season. By the way, the hype isn't requested by the traders or investors, it should happen naturally.

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