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1141  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: March 01, 2014, 07:39:21 PM
The key point in marto's posts is if they have experience last words. Do they have experience Grin
1142  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: March 01, 2014, 07:31:24 PM
Ok any way I am not arguing anymore
But please make a difference between manufacturer and business parter. For sure amt Is/was and is still doing business with them but manufacturer I can agree to that if I get their 4 chip board in the next couple of days. But this ain't going to happen Grin  
So marto's post proves my words
Just a resume. I MANUFACTURED some fury boards for  amt  Grin amt manufacturer Grin but now I am not going to do it for coincrafts.
1143  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: March 01, 2014, 07:21:18 PM
For folks who insist on smearing AMT,  just letting you know that if AMT is indeed a scam and therefore guilty of wire fraud then they are subject to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_and_wire_fraud

18 U.S.C. § 1343 provides:

Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, transmits or causes to be transmitted by means of wire, radio, or television communication in interstate or foreign commerce, any writings, signs, signals, pictures, or sounds for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both. If the violation affects a financial institution, such person shall be fined not more than $1,000,000 or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.[2]

Extremely serious crimes if proven true.

So people, chill out about the unsubstantiated claims about AMT.


But what about people who will order in the future from Joshua Zipkin's company, AMT, where there is no proof that he's even been the US for at least the past three years?

A couple of folks had talked to him in person here in PA.

Someone ships the 80 GHs miners from somewhere in PA.  

Bitmine.ch ships chips to some location in the U.S. for AMT.

Someone was able to rent a PA location and office.  That incidentally was visited by other folks.

Technobit has shipped boards to them.  Technobit vouches for them as being legit.

You're making it seem that this company doesn't exists which is completely ludicrous.  It's like saying BFL does not exist.   Well for the longest time a lot of people thought BFL to be a scam,  however they eventually shipped.  Late, but they did ship.  



dude,
As far as understand marto's post it is not a vouch at all. It just states that they did some business and amt Joshua was the men of the word back then. But what about now?
1144  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: March 01, 2014, 07:18:12 PM
I know dude. Daddy most probably knows nothing. My comment was about his son only
1145  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: March 01, 2014, 07:07:57 PM
More about Harrison that AMT_miner mentioned that was kind enough to share an office space with its founder because he's a friend of the family, albeit I later proved that Harrison is indeed Joshua Zipkin's Daddy-O, Harrison Zachariah Zipkin. The original office of AMT was 1254 West Chester Pike, Havertown, PA.

http://www.zintro.com/expert/Harrison-Zipkin

Quote
Corporate CEO with over 30 years of experience in building companies. I have grown a company from start-up to over 50, 00k/annum in 5 years. Expert in corporate finance and structure. Expert sales trainer.

Standard Hourly Rate:   $100

Profession - Title:   Executive Management, Sales Methodology, Finance - CEO

Areas of Expertise:

Sales Training
Corporate Finance
Corporate And LLC's
Investment Banking
Merger & Acquisitions
Profitabilty
Cash Flow
Sales Recruiting
Staged Development
Security Technology
Access Control
Turnaround CEO

State/Province:

Philadelphia, PA
Country
United States

Primary Language:   English

Time Zone:    EST
Too expensive for amt 100USD per hour for advise how to swim out of the shit they are in. I am wondering how many hours of advises it is gonna take Grin help them daddy please and show some mercy do not take all of their money leave some for the refunds Cheesy
1146  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - DisContinued/ important announcement on: March 01, 2014, 06:33:12 PM
hey zhang, what about the trade-in you gave us your word remember ?  Kiss


I got my avalon 2 tradin though.


lol man, no offense, what about everyone else?

I do not know man. I am talking for me only. No offense at all. What I do regret is when asked ngzhang about script and lancelots he told me that it is doable but it will not last long with script diff increase due to memory flag limitation. As I see it now that it is not quite true but too late for me I sold them all Cry
I know that some of you guys got nothing reading the posts here but some of us got something that is all
1147  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: March 01, 2014, 05:32:42 PM
Everyone, just relax.

You all are going to have your "miners" in two weeksŪ!



I thought so how dum I am Huh
Thanks good I am not amt customer. Grin
1148  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - DisContinued/ important announcement on: March 01, 2014, 05:18:19 PM
hey zhang, what about the trade-in you gave us your word remember ?  Kiss


I got my avalon 2 tradin though.
1149  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: March 01, 2014, 05:16:42 PM
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Why do u think he wants to sell, cause paying a lawyer to chase $5500 isnt worth it, when he takes it to the court, the court will ask AMT to refund his money, at which point he will then again have to chase them to get that money back from them. Hence he is looking for a easier and cheaper way out. its simple he is betting on they wont deliver, i am betting on that they will. Since i am willing to take the risk i pay 50 %.

Eagerminer: Your offer sucks. He should be entitled to a complete refund FROM AMT, right now.

Personally, I'd rather sick a lawyer on that sack of shit Joshua Zipkin and lose every cent, then lose half my money selling the miner to an opportunistic bastard like yourself.
And let us remember as longer you are selling/buying a preorder amt blessing is a must Grin
++++ 1000 about lawyer comment
Besides they did a fraud and probably the will have other law penalties. I am sure that there accounting Is a class and it would be very interesting for tax authorities also Grin
1150  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: March 01, 2014, 03:19:12 PM
Any one willing to sell their miners, i am willing to buy for half the price

lol, maybe you should apply with AMT. didn't they say they were hiring? sounds like they might be a good fit for you... 50% crook 50% mystery
Hashing?
With what? Grin Grin
As I said they are fucked badly. They are late and they do not have anything to hash with and some folks planing to sue them. sweet Grin

Exactly, help knock some sense into clenell , not only is it a good deal. But its the only deal he is gonna get out there
Not quit sure dude
Let us imagine you are amt newbie 10 posts. I know I was wrong once but I doubt I will be wrong twice
So he is the only one who claims he is going to sue you or let me say very close to do that at this point.
So you amt are getting around 3k profit buying his order and getting clean this time no sue  Grin
Like a super deal right or I am wrong Grin

Its would make me look like a stud, but he offered to sell it himself i m just simply responding to tht and making an offer
No worries dude every one is a free to decide. His money against your offer
1151  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: March 01, 2014, 03:14:31 PM
Any one willing to sell their miners, i am willing to buy for half the price

lol, maybe you should apply with AMT. didn't they say they were hiring? sounds like they might be a good fit for you... 50% crook 50% mystery
Hashing?
With what? Grin Grin
As I said they are fucked badly. They are late and they do not have anything to hash with and some folks planing to sue them. sweet Grin

Exactly, help knock some sense into clenell , not only is it a good deal. But its the only deal he is gonna get out there
Not quit sure dude
Let us imagine you are amt newbie 10 posts. I know I was wrong once but I doubt I will be wrong twice
So he is the only one who claims he is going to sue you or let me say very close to do that at this point.
So you amt are getting around 3k profit buying his order and getting clean this time no sue  Grin
Like a super deal right or I am wrong Grin
I strongly advise channel to sue amt and I am sure that this is what they deserve. He can get 0 usd though but it is not about the money anymore
1152  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: March 01, 2014, 03:05:26 PM
Any one willing to sell their miners, i am willing to buy for half the price

lol, maybe you should apply with AMT. didn't they say they were hiring? sounds like they might be a good fit for you... 50% crook 50% mystery
Hashing?
With what? Grin Grin
As I said they are fucked badly. They are late and they do not have anything to hash with and some folks planing to sue them. sweet Grin
1153  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: March 01, 2014, 02:43:49 PM
Any one willing to sell their miners, i am willing to buy for half the price
Are you sure?
Even at a half price it seems a risky investment taking into acount that the chance to get it soon and working as promised is almost 0
Amt are you going to take my bet and earn 50 btc Grin and prove you are honest and not constantly ling?
Common guys 25k usd tax free and good PR
I am adding a free professional review for your 4 chip board as a bonus Grin Grin   
1154  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: February 28, 2014, 04:01:13 PM
5 * 8 = 40 chips.... very nice.  6*8 = 48 chips even nicer.

The Bitmine.ch has 32 chips at 1.0 THs.   So  I like what I am seeing!
I'm not sure where you get that. Those are the Bitmine Desk boards, and a Coincraft Desk @ 1TH/s has 5 boards. Assuming they can figure out how to link in the 6th module, this will perform pretty much exactly like a 20% larger Coincraft Desk. Perhaps a little worse as it looks like the cooling will be better in the Bitmine product, but that remains to be seen.
5 boards according to bitmine video equals to 1064 w in/at the wall 220v
What psu shall they use the answer is  Grin 120v?.... Grin
They ca do it in two boxes however too much marketing again as usual

Loshia, what is the cost to produce a working miner with 6 boards?  What do you think.
I think that most ripoff is because of chip price. I do think that you deserve to make money for sure without any irony. I think it is a lot of work and pressure. I will never bash prices for guys like you. I am posting eagerly at chip makers only. Ant miner prices for example In the end it costs according to demand and supply that is all. As long as your customers are paying for it that means prize is ok for them
But what I think that honesty and truth are worthless. Even if you give a 1t extra you can not buy it. Not anymore. And I think you are a liars that is all.i think your top engineering inventory is how to use a screwdriver and nothing more
And I am ready to prove it. You can prove I am wrong and take my bet. Are you going to do that?
If you don't you are proving your constant lies
As i said it is not that hard to psss gerbers and bom given from someone else to factory. The hard is part is to make it work. That is making you a producer at least.
1155  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: February 28, 2014, 03:33:41 PM
Also,

A heads up for technical bullies and tech enthusiasts in this thread. We've created our own board as well, and no daisy chain is needed for this bad boy.

This board will ship in the 2.4's and 3.2's.



- AMT

Hmmm.... then the 8 coincraft a1 board appears to be someone else's design (bitmine.ch).


Yeah the only thing that amt is capable to design is amt print on pcb's Grin
Bitminedesign + a crapy copy of marto's design as long as I see it Grin
Probably he got all from bitmine nd now he is assembling at full sped.but main question is is this stuff working Grin
Amt is famous with microchip programing skils having in mind their deep bitfury experience
 Grin


It's a new internal design of AMT. AMT designs and creates boards now. And the boards is controlled by micro controllers, there is no daisy chain likes martins board. Each chip communicates with a different micro controller and komsho, is an original design.

It's our design and we created it.  Support us and you may receive a prodarak.


A prodarak?

Anyway,  I've been supporting you guys from day one.  

Some priority shipping or some discounts would be appreciated!
Dude this is the next dirty lie. They have a chance to earn 50. Btc if they sent me this shit no later than 1st of March 2014
Do you really think a wise businessman will loose golden chance to collect 25k usd?
However a wise businessman who knows that he is bulshiting again will turn all that into a joke for sure and pass it along will al dirty lies already written and passed along already
The last one was about shipping a week ago a reminder Grin just in case it is forgotten because of some crapy pictures proving nothing!!!!! But those pics bring a lot of hopes make all bad things go away. No. Not the case at least for me!!!!!!!

AMT I AM. SERIOUS are you going to take THAT challange?
 Grin Grin Grin
1156  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: February 28, 2014, 03:17:47 PM
Also,

A heads up for technical bullies and tech enthusiasts in this thread. We've created our own board as well, and no daisy chain is needed for this bad boy.

This board will ship in the 2.4's and 3.2's.



- AMT

Hmmm.... then the 8 coincraft a1 board appears to be someone else's design (bitmine.ch).


Yeah the only thing that amt is capable to design is amt print on pcb's Grin
Bitminedesign + a crapy copy of marto's design as long as I see it Grin
Probably he got all from bitmine nd now he is assembling at full sped.but main question is is this stuff working Grin
Amt is famous with microchip programing skils having in mind their deep bitfury experience
 Grin


It's a new internal design of AMT. AMT designs and creates boards now. And the boards is controlled by micro controllers, there is no daisy chain likes martins board. Each chip communicates with a different micro controller and komsho, is an original design.

It's our design and we created it.  Support us and you may receive a prodarak.

Ok here is the deal. I am offering you 50 btc tax free if you send me this particular board in hashing condition with short instructions how to make it work
I am covering dhl costs
That should happen not later than Monday
If the board is not working you will have to pay me 50 btc it is a bet
Shall I ask john to setup btc address for us Grin
O yeah I forgot I will cover the costs for the dhl way back Grin
1157  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: February 28, 2014, 02:38:57 PM
5 * 8 = 40 chips.... very nice.  6*8 = 48 chips even nicer.

The Bitmine.ch has 32 chips at 1.0 THs.   So  I like what I am seeing!
I'm not sure where you get that. Those are the Bitmine Desk boards, and a Coincraft Desk @ 1TH/s has 5 boards. Assuming they can figure out how to link in the 6th module, this will perform pretty much exactly like a 20% larger Coincraft Desk. Perhaps a little worse as it looks like the cooling will be better in the Bitmine product, but that remains to be seen.
5 boards according to bitmine video equals to 1064 w in/at the wall 220v
What psu shall they use the answer is  Grin 120v?.... Grin
They ca do it in two boxes however too much marketing again as usual
1158  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: February 28, 2014, 02:36:47 PM
wow, i missed 5 pages of some interesting shit. did i miss delivery dates? my miner, according to schedule, should be delivered TODAY. has anyone got a delivery?
Nope
That mystery shall be reveals soon.
1159  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: February 28, 2014, 01:04:15 PM
Also,

A heads up for technical bullies and tech enthusiasts in this thread. We've created our own board as well, and no daisy chain is needed for this bad boy.

This board will ship in the 2.4's and 3.2's.



- AMT

Hmmm.... then the 8 coincraft a1 board appears to be someone else's design (bitmine.ch).


Yeah the only thing that amt is capable to design is amt print on pcb's Grin
Bitminedesign + a crapy copy of marto's design as long as I see it Grin
Probably he got all from bitmine nd now he is assembling at full sped.but main question is is this stuff working Grin
Amt is famous with microchip programing skils having in mind their deep bitfury experience
 Grin
1160  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: February 28, 2014, 07:03:18 AM
I agree with "buying is better than mining"... But I do both. There are advantages to both. Especially on the alt-coins. (You will be surprised how easily you can manipulate value in your favor, mining the alts, solo.)

Trust me, there is more than plenty of alts to spread the hash-rate among. Once you start hoarding those coins, and not cashing-in... it will reduce the number of coins they have to cash-in, causing them to ask for more. (Or rather, no longer settle for less.) If YOU cash-out as you earn, YOU are the one destroying the value. Which can also work in your favor, to drive-off other miners from the coin, so you get more coins! (It is a comical never-ending cycle.) You just don't want to kill a coin that you hold.
Guy's listen to wise advise given Grin
And the part which is skipped from ISAWHIM
Mine at diff 10k so ROI will be within days only Grin Grin
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