Why do people expect the feds to just know what's going on in every corner of the internet?
Because they built a huge mega multi million dollar facility to funnel every bit and byte through the US of A to do exactly that... And where does something like this fall on their list of priorities? |
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Not basing the return on bitcoin is stupid.
Why should I give you 1 BTC if you can't turn it into more than 1 BTC?
No matter the price of bitcoin, I am better of with 1 BTC than less than 1 BTC. If you can't turn my 1 BTC into more than 1 BTC, your project is no better than literally doing nothing, what is the benefit to me if the only way to profit from the venture is the price going up? I can get the same benefit by putting 1 BTC on a thumb drive and staring at it without all the additional risks associated with trusting you and dealing with mining.
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What are your plans to keep up with difficulty increases?
How long do you think it will take to get back the original 6,000 BTC?
What are you bringing to the table to get 79% of the company even though the investors are providing all this capital?
What happens to my .0035% if there is a drastic change in BTC price between when I give it to you and you reach a funding goal?
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Still what they are saying is they still have a little coin left.
Part of it is yours but they are going to distribute what is left to whom they choose.
What I want to know is, where are the fed's?
What did they say when you tried to report that you were robbed? Why do people expect the feds to just know what's going on in every corner of the internet? |
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Did anyone see the live chat with Danny? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7ieulSi7zY&feature=youtu.be&t=11m08sIt looks like we are going to get payback after the court hearing on March 31st. As I understood they had like 9000 BTC that distributes to us shareholders. How many shares total were in NeoBee ? How many BTC per share would we get? That is going to be the question plus if any random roadblock pops up as seem to often spoil his plans. Sounds like a great deal. I have a bridge to sell you, but you'll have to send the BTC to me before March 31, this thing isn't going to last very long. What reason would he have to lie though? He could hve just disappeared long ago. What reason would he have to rob you guys? Why would anyone trust a word this guy says? What plausible reason could there be for him to disappear for years without explaining what is going on and screwing over so many people? Weren't the shares not really shares, just a deal to get a portion of the profits for 2 years, when are those 2 years up? Could he just be showing up and trying to claim legitimacy by getting around that? I dont believe his intention was to rob. He stands in a very long line of incompetents, who completely misunderstood what it takes to start and maintain ambitious projects. Agreed, he ran like many scammers do, but look what he has done......he is back. How many low-life scammers do that? I personally dont trust what many people say. Its meaningful actions that count. His excuse for disappearing is that there were threats to his daughter from an employee, and that the Cypriot police were fabricating evidence/statements, that he was going to have to face on his return to Cyprus, so he stayed in the UK. People can make their own judgement how valid those reasons are. I didnt hear the immortal question...."why are you back?" IMO, he didnt want his law degree studies (and eventual qualification), to be over-shadowed by what happened at Neo-Bee. He's back because he's an asshole thief who thinks being back will either bring him more joy by trolling you or help him to con someone else for his next attempt. How can someone who ran from a warrant for years be licensed to practice law anywhere? Did he get "threatened" before or after he robbed people. What evidence was fabricated? He took money, he didn't do anything with it (except buy a car). How can you expect to not get robbed again in the future when you give the benefit of the doubt to the obvious thieves? |
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Did anyone see the live chat with Danny? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7ieulSi7zY&feature=youtu.be&t=11m08sIt looks like we are going to get payback after the court hearing on March 31st. As I understood they had like 9000 BTC that distributes to us shareholders. How many shares total were in NeoBee ? How many BTC per share would we get? That is going to be the question plus if any random roadblock pops up as seem to often spoil his plans. Sounds like a great deal. I have a bridge to sell you, but you'll have to send the BTC to me before March 31, this thing isn't going to last very long. What reason would he have to lie though? He could hve just disappeared long ago. What reason would he have to rob you guys? Why would anyone trust a word this guy says? What plausible reason could there be for him to disappear for years without explaining what is going on and screwing over so many people? Weren't the shares not really shares, just a deal to get a portion of the profits for 2 years, when are those 2 years up? Could he just be showing up and trying to claim legitimacy by getting around that? |
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Did anyone see the live chat with Danny? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7ieulSi7zY&feature=youtu.be&t=11m08sIt looks like we are going to get payback after the court hearing on March 31st. As I understood they had like 9000 BTC that distributes to us shareholders. How many shares total were in NeoBee ? How many BTC per share would we get? That is going to be the question plus if any random roadblock pops up as seem to often spoil his plans. Sounds like a great deal. I have a bridge to sell you, but you'll have to send the BTC to me before March 31, this thing isn't going to last very long. |
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there is value in this house itself : CRYPTSY
if it was penny stock exchange - value of such house would be in billions
if it would go under bankruptcy - lawyers would sell to highest bidders
you say : small coins have no value : how much bigger intrinsic value having diamonds, posts stamps and so on
by allowing lawyers to sell Cryptsy to someone for pennies ( possibly to competitor who would close Cryptsy )
by this action ( or inaction ) - allowing to sell Cryptsy for ZERO - we would confirm ( as you say) that all altcoins have ZERO value
actually, best outcome for all coin holders would be survival of cryptsy
an option to convert altcoin deposits in stakes in the company or similar
this happens quite often in bankrupcies
but it must be transparent an under our control
IMHO this is possible
that would:
1.prevent deaths of smaller coins
2.give some remote chances for recovery of funds
ordinary bankruptcy - lawyers will take all
What part of Craptsy is bankrupt do people not understand? There is no money... coins of value were stolen 19 months ago... Craptsy has maybe $100k worth of crapcoins to dole out, so be patient... Dead coins are worthless because they are scams which were abandoned after the pump-n-dump... don't invest in them, so some research before throwing your money away... you are right when say that bankrutcy is a bad option,but it is inevitable if some big investor does not buy it. If Cryptsy wants to stay in business,they needs a lot of income,big volume,quick and effective support response,deposit/withdrawal works smooth,fast trade engine - everything Cryptsy lacked before hack So every investor have to put a lot of money at start and give members reasonable plan how to pay debt - that is not likely at all you are also right when you say that Cryptsy fall will mean certain death for a lot of small coins - but uncontrolablle putting coins on exchange is one of reasons for Cryptsy security was on such low level - they had only one man Mullick to maintain few hundred wallets which was completely insane.They hired ordinary people to give endless excuses for a technical problems they had,instead to hire qualified tech support to maintain such beast. Also there is a quite big security risk that Cryptsy can be bought by some notoriuos scammers,which could exploit sensitive private info of their members given through AML or make Mintpal 2 Why do you think that anyone would be stupid enough to deposit coins on cryptsy to make this plan work. |
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OK, thank you all very much. I'll pass on sending BTC their way. It's a pity that there appear to be NO cloudmining opportunities that come out with any kind of decent ERI.
It would seem like anyone offering a reasonable rate-of-return would attract a lot of customers, hence make more money for them.
Why would they rent out their miners if they could offer a event rate of return? |
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Principal Withdrawal Cap - Effective 25 January 2016
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This is the maximum Stakeminers will payout in principal withdrawal each week. The portion of principal withdrawal requests exceeding the maximum will be paid out in subsequent weeks until the full principal payment is made.
The maximum is 0.35 BTC per week. (This amount is dependent on the market value of the coins we stake at the time of withdrawal and could increase with favourable market conditions).
Example: You request a withdrawal of 0.50 BTC, Stakeminers will payout the first 0.35 BTC in week 1 and pay the balance 0.15 BTC in week 2.
Why is this change being made now?
The collapse of Cryptsy has driven altcoin prices to new lows. As a result our redemptions of altcoins to meet principal withdrawal requests are simply driving prices lower. This change will reduce our need to sell altcoins into a depressed altcoin marketplace. We will modify the principal withdrawal cap as the market price for altcoins improves.
He doesn't even bother posting these policy changes on Bitcointalk anymore. Bad Fodor. Wowsers... limiting withdrawals is exactly what Craptsy did when they were insolvent... So, "Effective 25 January 2016" means people still have 2 days to abandon ship? This thing has been insolvent since almost day 1. |
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I think we should pass the collection hat and raise some money to fund a small team of private bounty hunters to grab Paul and return him to the US. This happens everyday. It's called "extraordinary rendition". This could certainly be arranged privately.
Anybody interested in contributing? We can probably have him back in the US within a week if we mobilize quickly.
If I were Paul Vernon, that would be the least of my worries. Same true for having any concerns about authorities nailing my ass. Oh no, not of that would bother me. What should, and probably does cause Paul to lose sleep every night is knowing that there are sickos out in the world who honestly believe that he did it and has access to over ten million dollars that wasn't reported to any authorities and they may feel that Paul may voluntarily offer up the keys once shown a Monty Python tickling feather, if you get my drift. I'd say it sucks to be Paul Vernon right 'bout now. Hell, it wouldn't surprise me the least to learn in a day or two all the coins have been returned with no questions asked. Stranger things have happened in this space, albeit none come to mind as I stare at the sofa across the room. (and you guys honestly thought I didn't have a sofa - that's where I fuck the dog) If Paul is smart he should turn himself in. He will be much safer once he is in custody. Paul, just in case you don't know where to turn yourself in, try the US embassy in Beijing. Safer? I would love to see the Venn diagram of people with the resources to cause personal harm to him in China and the stupidity to lose money on his exchange. |
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Still priced at 3 cents at the moment. So we could still say that it is not a 100% loss. Plus the flour oh I mean floor is at 20 sats right?  $.020 dollars, just as promised. Still way above it. |
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The sad part is collecting. If he has no income and no property it might be next to impossible to get anything even after winning the case
From the dox I have, it seems he is f*cking rich. Wonder why he needed to scam A rich guy will bend over to pick up a $20 bill. For people with a certain moral compass, scamming on this forum isn't much harder than just picking up money. It's one thing to get the balls/equipment/knowledge to go rob a bank, around here you just say "give me money" and people give it to you. |
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Yeah, this is very suspect...declaring insolvency and preferring some customers (those with alts) over other customers (those with BTC). This is also quite illegal. Does he need a powershovel to dig himself a bigger hole with the authorities?
How is this illegal? You can't just shut down an exchange then choose to disperse the remaining assets to a few customers. In addition to that, since they knew of the theft and did not report it. Instead trying to do it cowboy fashion and fix it themselves. They say they contacted the FBI with no response. I just have one question here. Do you believe that? Heads will roll. The standard response to a multi-million dollar theft is to wait a year and a half and then make 1 phone call and fill out one form on the internet, what do you expect them to do? |
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I guess claiming it will take years to pay out all of the coins people deposited to them is one way to ensure the scam "lasts."
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Horus what exactly does your lofty title "Head of Anti-Fraud and Investigations" entail when circa 6 million dollars of coins magically escape from the vaults? Did you investigate this or did you command one of your "underlings" to do so, you being the head of that team of yours? Funds fucked off out of Cryptsy what was it, end of July 2014, Mollusik or whatever his name is, the other useless dunce only corrects the github in April 2015. What were you guys doing from July through April. Sitting around giggling Hey where did that 6 mil. vanish to Paul, oh I dunno Horus, ask Mollusik. What were doing all this time Horus, sitting on the troll box or investigating. How did your "investigations" go exactly. Holmes or Clouseau? Then you hang around here whining it wasn't me, I have no say, I am no one. Just getting my paycheck like everyone else. Pathetic. And you dare to leave this bullshit title on your profiles? Like its a feather in your cap ""Head of Anti-Fraud and Investigations" of Cryptsy, I Horus the Sun, while 6 million dollars were snatched from beneath my nose.
Idiot.
He was hired as a scapegoat. You're just bullying a pawn Well, that pawn's actions caused many people to lose money, so he's going to get bullied until he gives us a reason not to. You can't extract blood from a stone, but you can sure as hell try! He is not a stone, he has more information than he is letting on. That's all people are looking for from him, and it's one of the things that confuses me greatly about the bitcoin "community." Obvious scams happen every day, and people "employed" by the scam companies manage to hang around and post after the scam without giving out any useful information. It just doesn't make sense. Either spill the info you have to help everyone out, or go crawl under the rock that your boss is hiding under. The only thing crazier than them hanging around and not helping out are the people that allow them to. |
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Horus what exactly does your lofty title "Head of Anti-Fraud and Investigations" entail when circa 6 million dollars of coins magically escape from the vaults? Did you investigate this or did you command one of your "underlings" to do so, you being the head of that team of yours? Funds fucked off out of Cryptsy what was it, end of July 2014, Mollusik or whatever his name is, the other useless dunce only corrects the github in April 2015. What were you guys doing from July through April. Sitting around giggling Hey where did that 6 mil. vanish to Paul, oh I dunno Horus, ask Mollusik. What were doing all this time Horus, sitting on the troll box or investigating. How did your "investigations" go exactly. Holmes or Clouseau? Then you hang around here whining it wasn't me, I have no say, I am no one. Just getting my paycheck like everyone else. Pathetic. And you dare to leave this bullshit title on your profiles? Like its a feather in your cap ""Head of Anti-Fraud and Investigations" of Cryptsy, I Horus the Sun, while 6 million dollars were snatched from beneath my nose.
Idiot.
He was hired as a scapegoat. You're just bullying a pawn Well, that pawn's actions caused many people to lose money, so he's going to get bullied until he gives us a reason not to. |
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That site is a scam, that's not how poker staking works.
If you are that good at poker and/or staking good players you don't need an endless supply of new money.
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I still don't know why you're harassing me with this shit. I was NEVER top echelon at Cryptsy, NEVER corporate. I've always been a low to mid-level employee. I understand looking into corporate level, but just because I have my face out there as PR last couple of months youre busting my balls. Again, I have done fuck all wrong and you keep staying on me as a topic. If a big bank fucks someone over, do you investigate the investigators? Makes no sense and y'all are grasping at straws now. I don't know why you have such a fuckin' hard on for me, I ain't that pretty  Maybe we'll leave you alone if you explain what the fuck you were "investigating" while 13k coins disappeared and point us to who and what was done to "investigate" that. Why did you tell people that things would be ok when they obviously weren't? We will not help you out from under the bus until you throw someone else under it, which if you were honest you would do to the people that pushed you there. There's only 2 explanations for the head of investigations being out of the loop on this, and neither one is good for you, so if you don't want to be treated like an incompetent person (didn't know) or a scammer (knew and were lying) you need to start providing an alternative explanation. |
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Is someone stupid enough to get conned by Garza and then try to pump paycoin way after the shit hit the fan smart enough to steal all this money from Cryptsy?
Why on earth would someone that pocketed that much cash in the Summer of 04 continue to fuck around with all those alts and pump and dumps?
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