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1161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: August 25, 2014, 06:11:47 PM
@ Bitcoin Charlie: hmmm . . . I'm not sure such action needs to be in real time in the minute-by-minute sense.

Here's my first thought (goes back to the Yacoin days): if 20 Unovians held in reserve just $50 worth of Btc, and then a flash crash happened (we gotta formulate community strategies for this eventuality . . . if it is part of The New Terrain), and then everyone piled in, and bought UNO with that stashed BTC, we would end up with a 365-day graph that was the envy of the whole crypto sphere!!

'Price-independence' is what we make it!! In this case, it's a community tactic. However, as we create more 'stabilisers' -- like both automated and P2P fiat-UNO facilities -- Unobtanium will gain 'unforced' resistance. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, Btc Charlie: if we show ourselves to be 'resistant' to BTC price-drops, then people will gravitate to us, and we will become, in the mid-term, truly resistant.

m.

In support of this measure, I've already deposited to cryptsy, coinbroker, mintpal and bittrex and hope that anyone else who can does. I'm always glad to pick up some more UNO...

Not to sound like a central bank, but is there a gradual increase in the floor price we would like to achieve over a period of time? We could do so by setting up buys to buy up any UNO put on the market at the "cheap" prices at various exchanges.
1162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: August 25, 2014, 11:44:53 AM

@ Falling Knife: your 'call' for concerted buying is a tactic we argued for in the Yacoin community a full year ago. IndiaMikeZulu will conform to calls for concerted action from competent Uno-vians. (We had the idea that everyone simply keep a pinch of Bitcoin to hand to 'buy in' when the price drops. This concerted action will create a remarkable steadiness of price.)

Good news me!!

woo hoo!! I'm a journalist -- gotta figure out how to fit Uno in:

http://bithub.co.kr/n_news/board/view.html?page_code=comu&board_code=20140823234933_9990&no=2

m.

I like the idea of concerted buys, how do we accomplish that in real time?
1163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: The 5 Un Challenge on: August 24, 2014, 11:22:14 PM
I'm inspired by the ALS "cold water" challenge in the USA.  
Let me challenge you and every crypto investor to the 5 Un challenge.

Let's see what will happen if everyone buys just 5 Un before the end of the month. I nominate all of you to buy just 5 more Un before Sept. 1. It'll cost you less than ten bucks.

Bought a few more than 5, hopefully everyone will participate!

It's amazing how many one can pick up from the bots, just buying up to a ceiling, backing off, letting them reload, repeat... Kiss
1164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: August 22, 2014, 09:44:16 PM
Yeah, my detective work points to the fact that there are a ton of people storing UNO on Cryptsy, or they have a ton for some reason... Undecided
1165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: August 22, 2014, 04:51:28 PM
These are all great ideas for the private exchange!

One thing that I had thought of, once we establish someone within the trust network, would those involved in the exchange be open to possibly accepting various methods of payment aside from other crypto:

-Gift Cards
-Green dot cards
-Precious metals
-Skrill
-PayPal
-Amazon Pay
-etc.

I know it gets away from the anonymity factor to some degree on some of the methods of payment, however, it may be of interest for some people?
1166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: August 21, 2014, 12:09:06 AM
Wanted to ask you guys about storage onto a usb stick. Do you just save the wallet.dat file on the usb?
Never done this before and thought I'd see what you guys have to say before messing with it. Too many beautiful UNO's


My local wallets for all coins are encrypted and stored in 3 places: usb stick, local drive, and a cloud drive.

Your observations are interesting. I hadn't really considered the timing for when this community came together. Maybe that's the difference in tone.
I think we also have more experienced group here who have ego's that are not so easily threatened that they feel they have to win every argument.

FK, what cloud service do you trust your UNO to?

Also, I agree, in a fledgling project, egos have no place.  The egos must be secondary to UNO and we should all work together to expand it.
1167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: August 20, 2014, 10:27:38 PM
Yeah, crazy, right? Either there are several metric tons of UNO stored there by us UNOers or Cryptsy is trying to corner the market? Wonlong abandoned his stash at Cryptsy? Sad
1168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: August 20, 2014, 08:00:55 PM
My trace, again, not that I know what I'm doing, went back ultimately back to the big wallet. In the penultimate transaction, the big wallet had funded a smaller wallet that had transmitted several small amounts to various wallets...
1169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: August 20, 2014, 07:33:57 PM
My second uno withdrawal from cryptsy came through, woowoo! I have no reason to trust cryptsy, i have no reason to not trust them. Well, the lack of trust is weighted a bit more after having to wait a combined two weeks for two withdrawals, but they did eventually come through.

It looks like the number two wallet is an exchange. That number one wallet though, hmmmm, i just don't have any logical reason as to why it would be an exchange. Why would an exchange have 30% of the coins?

I'm no computer science wiz kid, but I believe that I was able to trace my Cryptsy UNO withdrawals through a series of wallets back to the big one using the blockchain...

Has anyone else tried that?
1170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: August 20, 2014, 06:47:09 PM
everybody is bitching about the bitcoin-foundation and closed-door-policy (lack of transparency). Could it be a sellingpoint for uno to explicitly not have such a centralized 'foundation'?

Absolutely, just look at this awesome community. If someone has a comment, they just drop in and say their piece. We don't need no stinking foundation!
As for transparency, I'm so sick of that word. Anyone that uses it is certainly opaque!

i didn't hear back from https://www.melotic.com so far. Maybe some of you want to remind them again that they want to have Uno on their exchange? Wink

Also, I remember reading on here that many folks were worried that our volumes were very low at several of the exchanges we were already on.  Will adding another exchange cause the volume to further decline?  Would we be better off pooling our nagging efforts at getting listed on BTC-e or one of the other big boys?

1171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: August 20, 2014, 04:14:41 PM
Yes I got another cryptsy withdrawl today

They finally got my withdrawal unstuck and then I just did one again now and it began confirming within a few minutes. Hopefully they got it fixed.

Lord knows, maybe Cryptsy's wallet was so full of UNO, none of it would come out! I'll take some if they believe they have too much!  Tongue
1172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: August 20, 2014, 02:49:36 AM
Would  a good reward for the blue crypto contest be one of big time spaghetti silver UNO renderings?
Yes, those would be cool, but the tentative award will be winner-take-all, 100 UNO sent to the winning nominee's wallet, no more, no less.  Maybe for next year's 'Awards?  I will definitely go with the physical silver UNO route if the community overwhelmingly requests it, instead.  I'm flexible.  This is OUR award.  Wouldn't I have to take much more of the voting UNO/+other possible donations, to up the value to 100 UNO?  This is a shoe-string budget.  Not even our webmasters are being paid!  (If we spend any extra funds this year, I vote for advertising for the 'Award, which is subsequently free advertising for UNO as well.)  Really, I'm still set on funding publicly-reported buy orders equal to the 100-UNO award.  It doesn't matter if these orders execute or not, as all remaining funds (whether in UNO or BTC) will be dedicated to the 2nd Annual Blue Crypto Awards, starting around early September 2015.  We can see what we learned from this year's and make it bigger!

I'm set on calling this year's contest "The 1st Annual Blue Crypto Award".  I'm hoping after another year, UNO will be worth 10x or more, so we can just offer a 10 UNO prize, and have several categories.  I also hope to have it grow in popularity over the years.  The Nobel Peace Prize of cryptos!  The Oscars of the New Century!  Why not?

(...And we'll have to find a professional manager next year!) Smiley

No worries, not trying to change the mojo. I just have no webmaster experience whatsoever, so I'm trying to add any value as ideas come to mind.

As a side note on getting the word out...does anyone know what it costs to advertise at the top of bittrex? Might be a cool way to get the word out not necessarily about how UNO is trading on a particular day, but about the Blue Crypto Award nominations and winner?
1173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: August 20, 2014, 02:40:55 AM
these orderbooks are really empty. Where did all that Uno go?

The only real sellwall i can spot is on mintpal on 0.0055 for 400 Un - and that's it.

I would suspect that much of the UNO has gone into the wallets of those wise individuals who frequent these pages...

 Grin
1174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: August 20, 2014, 02:38:57 AM
Stuck on smartphone keypad -- aaaaaah!

@BTC Charlie. Check indiamikezulu.com.au There is an exchange set up. I understand that these are big big big ideas, but the potential is also big big big.

Snippet of Theory: first, we start our own exchange (which requires some concurrent practices to keep up our trade-volume stats). Then we undertake, as a community, as an exercise, to change our trading-practices: more trade on X and Y; less on Z.

At that point, we have begun the shift to being a community that can manage concerted action. Guys, we could learn a great deal from the organistional model of anarcho-syndicalist trade unionism. They are experts in what we might call 'micro centralisation': yes, maximise individual freedom -- but that is not the same as bending over and parting your cheeks for CORPORATIONS like Cryptsy!!

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia

Looks good sire, only thought is that we may need to start with smaller trades to establish a trust allocation?

I do like the idea of a system where an alert goes out that someone wants to sell x UNO for Y of whatever...
1175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: August 19, 2014, 10:58:30 PM
Would  a good reward for the blue crypto contest be one of big time spaghetti silver UNO renderings?
1176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: August 19, 2014, 07:46:34 PM
Day 3 of withdrawal problem at Cryptsy. The worst wait for me yet...

As a result, I have been buying at MintPal, Bittrex and Coinbroker.io -- all deposits and withdrawals are quick! Coinbroker is literally instant.

I have been pleased with all of them. Still having Cryptsy withdrawal issues, so I went into the troll box and started asking questions about withdrawal problems.

You can imagine that I got an immediate response from the Admin trying to quell the issue. Evidently, they are doing some emergency back end (what a pun) work and it has messed up some withdrawals on some coins. Sounded almost like a triage type situation where since UNO doesn't do the volume of, say, DOGE, we got pushed to the back of the line...

Anyway, he / she alluded to the fact that the squeaky wheels get the oil. Perhaps we should all go on there from time to time asking people if they are having crypto withdrawal issues.  All an exchange has is its reputation. I told the Admin that the UNO community was growing very weary, very quickly.

Anyway, that's my Cryptsy update.

i don't go on cryptsy-chatbox because it is full of scum - 70% of people talking there is cryptsy-staff. They effectively control that box. No fun to use.

yes, i am having a bad day ... i am sick of being given the 'wait' and the 'run around' by literally everybody everywhere. Cryptsy is not worth halve the volume they have. Soon they will have all the time they need to figure out their 'issues' and 'growing pains'



Sorry that you are having a bad day! I hope that it gets better!

I hear ya broski on the troll box. It's fun to troll in there a bit, I was actually suprised that they didn't ban me for asking semi-solvency-related questions. I'm just taking the w/draw 1 day at a time...
1177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: August 19, 2014, 07:25:46 PM
Day 3 of withdrawal problem at Cryptsy. The worst wait for me yet...

As a result, I have been buying at MintPal, Bittrex and Coinbroker.io -- all deposits and withdrawals are quick! Coinbroker is literally instant.

I have been pleased with all of them. Still having Cryptsy withdrawal issues, so I went into the troll box and started asking questions about withdrawal problems.

You can imagine that I got an immediate response from the Admin trying to quell the issue. Evidently, they are doing some emergency back end (what a pun) work and it has messed up some withdrawals on some coins. Sounded almost like a triage type situation where since UNO doesn't do the volume of, say, DOGE, we got pushed to the back of the line...

Anyway, he / she alluded to the fact that the squeaky wheels get the oil. Perhaps we should all go on there from time to time asking people if they are having crypto withdrawal issues.  All an exchange has is its reputation. I told the Admin that the UNO community was growing very weary, very quickly.

Anyway, that's my Cryptsy update.
1178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: August 18, 2014, 11:43:41 PM
Didn't know whether anyone knew how fast the coinbroker.io withdrawals are. Kinda reminds me of the Jimmy John sub commercial. So fast, you'll freak! Wink
1179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: August 18, 2014, 09:03:34 PM
Don't worry, buuuuuuuuy UNO! New version of an annoying 80s song in US
1180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: August 18, 2014, 08:51:47 PM
Pleased with coinbroker.io, just scooped up 25 UNO around .004 or under. Clicked withdraw and my wallet immediately showed a deposit. Maybe Cryptsy tech support should contact them  Tongue
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