Yeah, I'm looking into how to solve this, but don't see any great solution. The problem is when recaptcha uses one of those copy&paste text recaptchas it doesn't seem to trigger the submit event. It almost seems like a recaptcha bug.

One possible solution is to have a more elaborate login process, that doesn't always require a recaptcha (e.g. enter username first, and then only suspitious ip addresses or user accounts will be presented with a recaptcha). For people who are very confident about their password security, they could disable recaptchas for their account completely

You can check the apps commissions here https://www.moneypot.com/full-stats.json (all values are in satoshis) for anyone interested. Please note this doesn't include expenses (e.g. advertising, rakebacks, promotions etc)

Why not just use the MP faucet on your own site? We foot the bill, not you =)

(And the faucet cool-down is global, so you can't abuse it by rotating through MP sites)

There's probably some clever solutions, but you can do it pretty easily by first implementing the JD solution and (on demand) generating a new salt for each in bet in the sequence. Before each bet, you tell the client what the `sha256(outcome + '|' + salt)` is going to be, and after after each game you can reveal both the outcome (before applying the client seed) and the salt.  The benefit of that, would be you would have two independent ways to verify bets, either in batch (great for humans) or realtime (great for bots).  However, I'm highly skeptical that the overhead and complexity is worth while for the 0.01% of people who care (and who already have no problems verifying their bets).

You need to first go to the site, and then add it for it to show up in your apps tab. Only a select few games are "featured" which show-up regardless of being added or not

Just to be clear, you can self-verify MP bets too. It's just a pain in the ass.

Here's the procedure for manual verification both:

Just-Dice:
1. Record the server seed hash
2. Change the client seed to something you picked
3. <make 1 or more bets> (and remember the order, direction and amount you bet)
4. Ask the server to reveal the server seed
5. Use a script to generate the outcomes
6. Compare the lists

MoneyPot:
1. Record the server seed hash
2. Change the client seed to something you picked
3. <make 1 bet>
4. Use a script to check the outcome, given the bet result (and client seed)
5. Compare


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So the advantage to JD's scheme, is if you trust your memory (or bet predictably) you can bet over and over. It's honestly much better for a human. But MPs advantage is it happens on a per-bet basis, and if you trust the verification script you can automate it. All MP casinos (with the exception of DustDice) are third-party, and their interests strongly align with players  (they make more money by having players win than lose)

They're just different. If you're a human verifying the bets, Just-Dice's is strictly better. If you're automatically verifying bets, MoneyPot's is better as it's simpler, and you can do it immediately.  Automatically verifying bets however, has the downside that the user needs to trust the auto-verification.

Actually the earlier prototypes of MoneyPot used to use Just-Dice's provably fair scheme, but it was too difficult for apps to verify (they need to keep their own independent, and complete record, and batch verify them) especially in the case of things like races (apps parallelizing bets for instance) and non-exclusive api calls (e.g. even as simple as two tabs open).

Actually, for instance one thing I want to build is a browser-plugin that MITM all bets to moneypot  (regardless of the casino it originates from) and randomizes the client-seed and verifies the bet (and gives a warning to the user if it doesn't). Such tools like this wouldn't really be feasible with JDs scheme.

But however, if you expect end-users to verify the bets, I'd definitely use JD's scheme.

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Edit: It's actually quite possible to combine both schemes, in one that allows both batch verification AND realtime verification. Something I considered doing, but laziness won the day, and I'm a sucker for simplicity.

Just as a reminder, during the downtime you have total access to your money: https://www.moneypot.com/apps/14-betterbets  and are able to continue to deposit and withdraw, so nothing to worry about =)

Probably the primary advantage for is that it lends MoneyPot more legitimacy, and establishes a paper-trail to both the entity and me personally. And probably the primary disadvantage is that the limited-liability aspect of a company (i.e. the company can independently go bankrupt to me).

But really, it's just an expensive piece of paper that points back to me, which I hope gives people some confidence that I'm not just a cheap pop-up scam.

I'm a bit of a bitcoin purist at heart, so unless something hugely changed in the landscape I don't have any plans to add altcoins now or the future. e.g. While I don't think it will, and hope it won't, but for pragmatic reasons might be forced to add a "BitcoinXT/BitcoinCore" currencies if bitcoin continuously forked and both held value

Yeah, you can get/verify the details at the national registry of costa rica ( rnpdigital.com ). The basic records are free and you can check online.

After you create an account and log in, you go to: "Consultas Gratuitas" and then under "Personas Juridicas" look for "Consulta por Nombre Social" and type in "MoneyPot" and you'll see us there =)

Big news! MoneyPot is now fully incorporated in Costa Rica!

Our largest ever win:

https://www.bustabit.com/game/1771047

by kingprawn winning 9.4 BTC profit on his 0.5 BTC bet, letting him cashout a net 6 BTC from this session, and a total of 25.8 bitcoin all together.


_{Sorry about the shameless shilling, just need to get some value for my money}

I'm not aware of a way that the server could undetectable cheat, but if you know of a way, I'd be very interested in hearing. And unless you can convince us there's a problem with the provably fair, the most you're going to do is convince us you got unlucky =)

MoneyPot holds other peoples money so it needs to be very pragmatic if bitcoin did ever fork. If it is not blindly obvious which side of the fork has overwhelming economic and mining support, we will just go on both sides of the fork with everyone simply have an independent balance in both <BTCxt and BTC>.

I however, don't think it's going to come to that. And if discussing my personal view, I think that bitcoin needs bigger blocks, but that bitcoin-xt is the wrong way to press the issue.

I think we've now grown to become the 2nd most popular (after primedice) bitcoin gambling game (at least those with public stats). We're holding a consistent average daily wager of ~650 BTC, which is pretty mind blowing =)

Thanks to everyone who plays here  

Regarding the investment lock feature. It's actually just a simple thing that disables the "Divest" function. It's just something really limited in scope, and has almost no impact on the rest of the system (while having "locked balances") would, even though I really do like the idea of it.


Down in profit, but up as in functioning.

Well, updated the homepage to not show the + on negative amounts ( and color it red ).  Really wasn't expecting to need that, again, but here we are, -8.3 BTC in investor profit.

The good news is, we got some pretty aggressive action by luthic, and what I can only assume was a great experience (lots of variance, a nice net win, and instant cashouts =). Now if only we had a 100 people betting like him to smooth over the variance =D

 If anyone wants the raw data of his massacre:

http://privatepaste.com/download/bc692f53a0

bet_id ; wager ; profit

I'll make some charts a bit later, but I'll go for a jog now to distract myself. Spent a third of the night hunched over my laptop (until it ran out of power) making sure everything checks out (which AFAICT it does, the maths seems fine and there's no evidence of any foul play)

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And for full disclosure, I am the largest investor currently holding 33% of the bankroll (just refreshed the proof-of-liabilities too) so it was independent investors who bore the brunt of that. MoneyPot itself is running under no-commission until the investor profit reaches 50 BTC again (which looks like it could a long, bumpy road).  

Pleased to add roulett.oshi.xyz and sharp dice to our featured apps!

Big congratulations to luthic who put on a real show on DustDice with max-profit bets, ending the day with a total winnings of 21 bitcoins!