The alleged license mBetSolutions N.V. claims to operate under has no legal basis and this means that bitcasino.io operates illegal and illegal operators can not have valid terms and conditions! Curacao license scam 1668/JAZ, sub-licenses have no legal basis!Curacao licensing scam operators | Please add all gaming sites here!Therefore their claim that they have the right to enforce KYC proceedings is baseless! And even if they would have somehow the right to enforce KYC, I can inform you that it is against Curacao law to let you deposit whatever amount without any verification and when you want to withdraw, suddenly deny your withdrawal request based on KYC -> Absolute nonsense and against all existing law!You should also know that Tim Heath already embezzled money as manager at Muchos Poker: BitCasino scamI'm not sure why you keep posting all this nonsense? The contact details of the Curacao gaming board are here: http://www.lacarga.org/GCB/ You should be able to clear up your misunderstanding in a few minutes. The $1,7 million owed are definetely worth to sue them in Curacao! As a high roller you might want to register your accounts with our Qualify cost free selection in future and have legal action cost free included? As you are obviously not a lawyer, why don't you just link to an actual licensed one who could handle the case properly. I personally find it pretty disgusting how you try take advantage of scam victims... but each to their own, I guess. |
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First point, fix the formatting of your post. If you want people to read it, you need to present it well. I will gladly compensate 20% of the funds I am due from bitcasino upon payment for their help
You really shouldn't do this. You will get contacted a lot by scammers and people hoping to make money in case you get paid. The amounts involved are enough to justify legal action. If it comes to this, make sure to only deal directly with a lawyer. Be very careful of middle-men who will just try extract money. Anyway, I've left bitcasino.io (profile) tentative negative trust that links back here -- so hopefully you should get a proper public response. |
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I've spent some more time reading into "UB" and unfortunately will not be able to support it. According to the "whitepaper" it said: All active Bitcoin addresses will receive corresponding balances on UnitedBitcoin’s chain. Balances of inactive addresses will be collected and used to serve the community.
So I made sure to shuffle around the wallet so that all unspent were active in the last 30 days. However, reading the fine print (which isn't in the white paper) it says: The output address (receiving address) must also be listed as one of the input addresses and cannot be a totally new address
Which is total bullshit, and not something I realized before the fork. A normal bitcoin transaction uses a new address each time (for privacy point of views) and they created a totally arbitrary rule that says it can't be a totally new address (probably to intentionally limit the distribution). However, there is a "phase 2" way of getting the UB. However the "phase 2" way requires doing a "send bitcoin to the same address" transaction and manually submitting the txid. However, this isn't possible to really do on my production wallet and is cost prohibitive. (An at-peak consolidation right now would cost me an estimated 19534.55 USD in fees, for something that I have no assurances will even have any value). So unfortunately, there's really no way I am able to offer support for this :/ |
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Fun Fact:
Domain (ub.com) used to belong to ultimatebet - Home of the biggest online poker cheating scandal ever (owners could see players cards, stole tens of millions) in 2009. In 2011 they got shut down and ended up just stealing the rest of the money.
Oh interesting, I didn't know that bit of history. They probably got a good deal on the domain. I wonder if the name "United Bitcoin" came after the domain (as it seems rather strange to use the word "united" when you're forking) |
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I was just now made aware of another bitcoin fork (yay!) called "United Bitcoin", at the sexy domain: https://www.ub.com/
I will be taking a snapshot of all users balances at fork time, and claiming for users so I can distribute to users (conditional upon there being trezor support for it)Edit: This will not be possible |
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Your provably fair section doesn't seem done: ( https://i.imgur.com/UrBd4X6.png ) although it looks like it was taken verbatim from csgoroll, which is a licensed bustabit copy  But for the provably fair to work, the public seeding event is supposed to start before the games starts :/ Anyway, good luck with your project! |
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I agree that his way of doing things is juvenile, without tact, and hurts his overall point, but the fact remains that Moneypot's refusal to honor their guarantee and tanking the currency that they were promoting is really really bad and will be a giant black cloud over all of their future business offerings.
+1. JPR's own worst enemy is himself. He's really "the boy who cried wolf". He went on a whole bunch of meritless rants and crusades, and established himself as an obnoxious troll. And now gets scammed for a considerable amount of money, and no one really cares about what he says. When a company stops honoring it's obligations, there is rarely a pretty ending. So I don't mean it in a malicious way, but to anyone with money on the site -- I'd strongly recommending taking your money out ASAP. My guess is they're probably already insolvent. And as I understand it they have made promises to refund investors this year (which less than a month remains) as well as things like this: The person, an old BetKing investor, tried to withdraw 103 Bitcoin from MoneyPot to my wallet. He showed me the pending withdrawal.
However, Moneypot refused to process his withdrawal claiming that he had agreed to a deal to remain invested with them until December.
The deal was that, even though he had lost 35 Bitcoin as an investor with Moneypot, he would have to keep his funds there until
he made the loss back or Moneypot would refund him.
so I bet there's going to be a lot of tears this year. |
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This is a really cool idea! However, the issue with most provably fair systems -- is that you can only verify your own bets but not someone elses. A casino can just outright lie and there's no way for an independent party to know.  So one possible idea, would be that the Crypto Gambling Foundation runs an "seed server" for each casino. Basically like the provably fair of bustadice.com ( https://gist.github.com/RHavar/285c295f7906e03369cd66580a1b5f45 ) which allows an independent party to verify the games. So it could be run by the Crypto Gambling Foundation. But even then, there can still ambiguities. Like person says "I didn't request that withdrawal" and the casino is like "yeah you did". The only way I can see to avoid that too, is just pure on-chain gambling games. (Like when I made pevpot: It was provably fair, non-repudiatable and immune to miners tampering. However, like most on-chain games it kind of sucked and people didn't actually like playing it).  |
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It was a very substancial case of money laundering.
I don't see how any of this can justify taking his money. If you suspect his intentions were to mix coins, you could just send them back to the sending address (as he asked) which would defeat the purpose of his mixing, as well as file a suspicious activity report. Or you could surrender them to a government authority, and provide him with the details so he can claim his money back. |
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How would you make money and thus be able to continue supporting the game if there is 0% rake?
The 0% rake would be exclusive to the pvp version. The primary game (playing against the house) would still have a normal house edge |
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It is pretty clear, the $_GET method is not sanitize before to be included in the SQL request...
Yes it is. That's what the prot function in your 1 line snippet is showing. Do you seriously not know how function application works? is quite literally sanitizing it. Where prot is defined function prot($hodnota,$max_delka=0) {
$text=mysql_real_escape_string(strip_tags($hodnota));
if ($max_delka!=0) $vystup=substr($text,0,$max_delka);
else $vystup=$text;
return $vystup;
}
You should probably read your own links. The way he's using it seems perfectly safe (although definitely not the way I'd do it), assuming you don't intentionally shoot yourself in the foot by changing the db's character set. -- I couldn't be bothered to read the rest of your accusation, as I feel quite embarrassed to just trying to read PHP. But frankly this looks very poorly on you. I suspect you don't have his permission to be sharing the source, and there were no quality guarantees offered. And it's rather clear you are struggling to understand some pretty straight forward things... |
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I guess the summary is there are two types of bustabit players: a) Those who play casually and against the house (and generally are bonus oblivious) b) Those who play competitively for bonuses libertynow with his bonus bot obviously belong to group b) and greatly benefits from playing against people in group a) (to their detriment). I think it's the fairest approach to try separate these groups of players, I'm just trying to find the smoothest way to do it. One thing I'm experimenting now with is a special PvP variant of bustabit with high bonuses, starting from 0.9x and being 0% house edge. And to limit the unbounded risk of offering a 0% house edge game, if the net profit is < 0, there will be a small rake. (e.g. if the game loses 20 BTC, there will be a 0.1% rake, or 100 BTC and a 1% rake etc. ) -- Anyway, nothing is going to be happening soon. So no need to panic. Just playing around with stuff to do my best to make everyone happy  |
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Btw, Is Bustabit releasing their new version? When? Can someone link me to the post? Feeling lazy tonight to search all the pages back. Sorry for the trouble.
No release date, but there's a demo here: https://dev.bustabit.comBut it's pretty broken right now, upgraded the version of react and half the things broke, and haven't had the time to fix them |
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Thanks DarkDays! Yeah, the plan is always been to create two different versions of the game. One for people who like the pvp competitive part, and one for people who don't. But I have no problem changing depending on what people prefer and how they play =) And I'd also like to apologize about the real lack of progress made in the last few weeks. I pretty much sold or gave away anything of mine that doesn't fit in a suitcase, and been trying the whole digital nomad thingy. I've had a lot less time than I would like, and that has gone to just keeping everything running smoothly and answering support as fast as I can =) But I'm going to make a big effort to have more uninterrupted hours, so I can really start pushing ahead again with the actual progress |
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Ok, withdrawal fee has been lowered from 1000 to 600 bits -- as the bitcoin backlog is clearing out. We're low balling the fees at the moment, but I don't think it's really going to be an issue if you don't mind missing 1 or 2 blocks.
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Due to the wtf mess with bitcoin right now, I've increased withdrawal fees to 1000 bits. This is a temporary measure until the situation normalizes (probably <24h) when fees will be reduced again. I'd recommend people just avoid transacting on bitcoin unless it's urgent as it's going to be quite painful |
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If the house always has an edge then how is this game "provably fair"? If it's actually fair, 50% odds should mean 50% odds...
Provably fair just means that you can validate the site offers what they claim to offer. PrimeDice claims to offer a 1% house edge (which is an industry standard), so you can validate both this and the fact they didn't rig the roll. The term for "50% odds" for 2x is known as "fair odds", but no business offers that. After all it's a casino, not a charity  Basically I just want to roll the dice and see if I could double my coin. I lost $22,000 from trading bitcoin these past few days and want to see if I could recoup my losses. I have 3 bitcoin that I'm willing to bet and I basically am hoping to double my money. How do you recommend proceeding? Just throw it all in with one bet (50% odds)? Or setup several different bets?
If you're interested in this, check out this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=939776.0To avoid the noise, just read posts that are written by myself, dooglus and blockage. the tldr; is that if you're smart, you can lower the house edge from 1% to ~0.7% or something similar. -- But actually I can do one better. I'll offer you both fair odds (and provably fair) if you create a top-level thread here on bitcointalk like "3 bitcoin coin toss challenge", and I'll pick heads or tails (and sha256 hash my result with a salt, so I can't change it). And you guess which. If you get it wrong, I get 3 bitcoin. If you get it right (or I "lose" the salt) you get 3 bitcoin. I get some free publicity, and you get your bet with fair odds. (PM me or create a top-level thread if interest, to avoid taking this thread off topic) |
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For perspective, Yolodice allows you to withdraw for only 15,000 Sat (regardless of the network), they probably make a loss on that but for people like me it keeps us happy.
Sorry for mentioning another site here, but if you're interested in an at-cost model check out the fees on bustadice.com . It constantly changes based on network conditions, but is designed to exactly model the site costs. For reference at the moment: Deposit fee: 368 satoshis (since there's a consolidation overhead for deposits) Instant Withdrawal Fee: 45580 satoshis (should confirm in < 2 confs, with a 95% probability) or Delayed Withdrawal Fee: 9010 satoshis (delayed until someone else makes a withdrawal) Although a big part of the reason it's so cheap is due to optimization (like using segwit), but I think it makes a good base-line as it's not subsidized (or a profit center). Not that it's particularly relevant, but the amortized investor commission is 25% |
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For perspective, bustadice is taking up to 20 BTC bets. Losing 90 BTC isn't really all that strange, especially considering the (unfortunately) low volume it's doing. I've been able to audit the games, and I feel very confident that all wins are totally legitimate. (Unless I've been hacked or something, but it would be a strange hacker that leaves the ~200 bitcoin I have on my computer untouched ) On bustabit for instance, I've lost 270+ bitcoins from a player who was betting a max of 1 bitcoin at a time. No foul play involved, just variance. As Daniel alluded to, the whole point of having a huge bankroll is because players really can actually win up that. If winning 100 BTC was some wtf-blackswan event, there would really be no point having such a big bankroll. --- Also on both other casinos I've been involved in, they both started off getting run pretty deep into the red before they eventually permanently recovered. I think bustabit for instance in the early day lost like 90 bitcoin in a single day, due to two whales having fun (betting 1 bitcoin at a time, each). I over-reacted to the situation and dropped the max bet to 0.1 bitcoin, which only served to drove the whales off (making them take their profits, and never return) and made that recovery take quite a long time. I'm pretty confident in the future of bustabit. Daniel's now sitting on a pretty nice commission (instead of being in financial straits), and I'm sure the players are no doubt very happy. As long as there is volume, things will work out. |
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Yes I agree that a 256 bit client seed is over kill however with the fast CPUs of today it doesn't really consume many resources.
Most of the larger sites are already hosted on Xeon dedicated servers and most of the time those CPUs are pretty much sitting idle. The hashes are done very fast on those CPUs.
It's not really about performance, but about the user experience of it. Big hashes are pretty scary, while for instance in bustadice.com, my client seed is: "pleasant macho match" which was generated using strong client-side cryptographic random number generation. Granted there's not that much entropy in it, but it's something that is very easy for me as a human to remember (and thus be sure it didn't change). And I don't really think low-entropy is a big deal, the amount of uplift a malicious picked server-seed is pretty much negligible -- and rapidly approaches 0 when a user keeps betting. Plus like I said earlier, players in general don't really have the ability to audit the game client each time -- so really should be picking their own client seed. |
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