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1181  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Neuer Marktplatz - BitServiceX on: August 14, 2013, 06:19:50 PM
TL, DR: Ich will das es genauso ist wie jetzt nur das ich Virtuelle Euros gegen mehr normale Euros verkaufen kann, damit ich einen Haufen Kohle dabei mache ohne mich mit irgendwelchen Problemen auseinander setzten zu müssen.
1182  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Sinn und Unsinn von Chartanalyse on: August 14, 2013, 05:32:00 PM
Andererseits, wenn TA so ein überlegenes Konzept wäre: Warum werden dann eigentlich so wenige damit erfolgreich? Ein paar Prozent, die sie einsetzen und jede Menge Autoren, die darüber schreiben.

Ohne jetzt Menschen ein Talent beim Traden ganz absprechen zu wollen einige fundamentalen Prinzipien gibt es IMO schon, die deine Position verbessern.

Das ganze Traden ist ein Nullsummenspiel, durch Traden werden keine Werte geschaffen, d.h. jeder Cent den jemand gewinnt muss von einem anderen Gewonnen worden sein.

Jetzt nehmen wir einfach mal an, wir haben 10.000 Trader ohne jegliche Fähigkeit. Die haben eine 50/50 Chance ihr Portfolio im Jahr um 20% zu verbessern oder 20% Verlust zu machen. Die die Verlust gemacht haben verkrümeln sich am ende des Jahres leise aus dem Geschäft.

Nach einem Jahr haben wir also noch 5000 die jeder 20% Gewinn gemacht hat.
Nach 2 Jahren noch 2500 mit je 44% Gewinn
...
Nach 7 Jahren immerhin noch 78 Trader die jeder 258% Gewinn gemacht haben.

Diese 78 gründen dann Hedge Funds und schreiben Bücher über ihre tollen Strategien, ohne das es die geringste Möglichkeit gibt zu erkennen ob sie nicht einfach nur ein riesen Glück hatten.

Und es gibt weit mehr als 10.000 neue Trader jedes Jahr...


DIe denkee die CHancen für neue Trader zu gewinnen sind bei unter 5%
Profis schaffen ses mit Analysen immer im plus zu sein, auch gegenüber allen anderen ANlageformen. Ist gar nicht so schwer wenn 95% verlieren

76 von 10.000 = 7,6 % Profis die immer im Plus sind.

War gar so schwer wenn 92,4% verlieren   Grin


und war nur ein Beispiel das ich mir ausgedacht habe.

Wenn man jetzt eine Skill Komponente mit rein nimmt wirds noch extremer.
1183  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: August 14, 2013, 05:13:59 PM
Andererseits, wenn TA so ein überlegenes Konzept wäre: Warum werden dann eigentlich so wenige damit erfolgreich? Ein paar Prozent, die sie einsetzen und jede Menge Autoren, die darüber schreiben.

Ohne jetzt Menschen ein Talent beim Traden ganz absprechen zu wollen einige fundamentalen Prinzipien gibt es IMO schon, die deine Position verbessern.

Das ganze Traden ist ein Nullsummenspiel, durch Traden werden keine Werte geschaffen, d.h. jeder Cent den jemand gewinnt muss von einem anderen Gewonnen worden sein.

Jetzt nehmen wir einfach mal an, wir haben 10.000 Trader ohne jegliche Fähigkeit. Die haben eine 50/50 Chance ihr Portfolio im Jahr um 20% zu verbessern oder 20% Verlust zu machen. Die die Verlust gemacht haben verkrümeln sich am ende des Jahres leise aus dem Geschäft.

Nach einem Jahr haben wir also noch 5000 die jeder 20% Gewinn gemacht hat.
Nach 2 Jahren noch 2500 mit je 44% Gewinn
...
Nach 7 Jahren immerhin noch 78 Trader die jeder 258% Gewinn gemacht haben.

Diese 78 gründen dann Hedge Funds und schreiben Bücher über ihre tollen Strategien, ohne das es die geringste Möglichkeit gibt zu erkennen ob sie nicht einfach nur ein riesen Glück hatten.

Und es gibt weit mehr als 10.000 neue Trader jedes Jahr...
1184  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Message for Ascension from btcquick! :) on: August 14, 2013, 04:51:35 PM
Write him a PM: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=70541
1185  Local / Biete / Re: BFL Sammelbestellung mit Hosting on: August 14, 2013, 04:46:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t925JwYXhVA
1186  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What brings you here? on: August 14, 2013, 04:44:06 PM
I was just walking home, thinking of nothing evil, when out of nowhere a man approached me and told me about Bitcoin.

It was really scary, but I immediately realized the scary man told the truth, never regretted coming here after that encounter.

You can watch what happened here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sTPMwqtDHw0
1187  Other / Archival / Re: btt on: August 14, 2013, 04:23:31 PM
Hi ChefBorjan. No, not at all. The GPUs don't do a whole lot and eat a lot of power, relatively speaking, but I need a computer running to keep our BFL gear fed anyway.

Do you actually still mine BTC with them?

You know, you would get a lot more out of them if you just point them at middlecoin.com.

(Middlecoin automatically mines the most profitable scrypt coin, automatically exchanges those coins for bitcoins, and pays out entirely in bitcoins.)

It works.
1188  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-07-10 Bitcoin.de announces partnership with Fidor Bank AG on: August 14, 2013, 12:30:45 PM
It appears they cannot verify people outside of Germany so there's a 2500 EUR limit.

Also, my pending orders (about 5 of them) were all automatically released (even though I had not yet verified the bank payments) because they now no longer allow americans.

so you need to be living in germany to get an account with bitcoin.de?  just curious because i am in sweden but may be in berlin in february

At present we can only accept customers residing in the European Union, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland.
1189  Other / Off-topic / Re: What happened to BitcoinINV? on: August 13, 2013, 07:17:48 PM
He defaulted on a couple of loans and disappeared.

See: https://btcjam.com/users/26
1190  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Network Questions on: August 13, 2013, 01:41:21 PM
1. Only the Bitcoin-QT client functions as a full Node.

All other clients (Multibit too) are not full nodes.


2. The Healthiest for the Network is to run a full node (Bitcoin-QT with Port 8333 forwarded), because all other clients need connects to full nodes to get their information from.

Web wallets are neutral, because the provider operates a very well connected full node.

All other Clients need resources from Full Nodes, but don't do anything to facilitate the network them self.
1191  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Android wallet... Autsch... on: August 13, 2013, 09:05:15 AM
Update für die Schildbach Wallet ist raus. Hier sollte jetzt wieder alles in Ordnung sein.

Es ist auch wichtig zu sagen, dass es bei den Wallets selbst kein Problem gab, sondern am Zufallszahlen Generator des Android Betriebssystems, der natürlich genutzt wurde um die private Keys zu erstellen.


Ich glaube, ich werde mit mobilen Wallets erst einsteigen, wenn es sowas gibt:
http://www.bitcointrezor.com/

Fänd ich etwas umständlich für die mobile Wallet. Die BTC auf meinem Smartphone sind für mich doch eher so wie das Bargeld in meinem Geldbeutel. Da trag ich ja auch nicht mein Gesamtes Geld mit mir in der Gegend rum, sondern nur was ich denke, dass ich brauchen kann. Im Fall von Bitcoin eher 1 - 2 BTC, falls sich die Gelegenheit ergibt es jemandem zu zeigen, einkaufen gehen kann ich ja mit BTC (noch) nicht.
1192  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are there enough nodes online? on: August 13, 2013, 08:13:24 AM
Mining is something the network needs, don't understate that

I know, I tend to overdrawn illustrations, sorry.


or does sunnykings proof of stake give another out?

I really dislike proof of stake now I have thought about it a bit more.

Basically the rich that can hold the coins will forever compound their money whilst poorer people will never be able to sit on their coins. It might be a solution to proof of work but causes even worse economic problems than Bitcoin does. Yeah new money enters the system, but only enters it into the rich wallets. Eventually in 100 years all new PPC generated will go the rich holders and deflate the value of all the coin the poorer people hold. Its a terrible idea.

If proof of stake was modified so that all coins are always generating the equivalent of 1% a year but instead daily, no ones stash of coins would increase relative to other peoples (like it does now) and the 51% attack issue would still be solved. The only reason Sunny put 30 days wait and also has the coins locked when making stake was because it benefits people that can afford to leave them alone.

Proof of stake could be the future because a 51% attack requires buying half the coins, but it would have to be implemented different to PPC, all coins always generate stake equivalent to a magic amount (1% per annum maybe) and the coins do not get taken away during the minting process, so all members of the network can use their coins day to day and generate stake.

PPC is inequality at its worse, the very foundation of the system benefits the early adopters even worse than Bitcoin does.

Well, the general Idea is IMO quite good.

In Order to find Proof of Stake Coins you have to provide the Network with anything it needs.

You have to run a well connected Node, to minimize Orphans, so you maintain the network and help "lite" Nodes. You also have to store a full version of the Block chain.

In addition you secure the Network. A 1% inflation per Year would be IMO acceptable for all this.

The point that makes this a no-go in my eyes is the point that in order to participate you already need to have a large amount of coins.

This leads to two mayor problems, 1. new users don't have a incentive to run a full node and maintain the network (think in 20 Years, Terrra- Petabyte Blockchain and High Speed Connection required --> Running a Full Node becomes a business).

Due to compound interest rates, the rich get richer and get an always bigger share of the Networks security.

This 2 points together would lead to that the Network tends to get more and more centralized until the point where only a few coin rich remain, that have no competition and due to the coin requirement there is no way to challenge them.

Proof of Work is a lot better here, as I see no way where a big miner could build up entry barriers for other miners. As soon as Mining becomes too profitable new competition will enter the marked, maintaining decentralization.

This new inflow is disencouraged with Proof of Stake. If this could be fixed somehow it would be IMO be a good alternative.
1193  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Your questions for a miner on: August 12, 2013, 01:37:40 PM
If you could ask a miner 3 questions, what would it be?

David
1) solo mining or pool mining

Lol....seriously??

If you do hairsplitting here your are only a (real) miner if you mine solo. --> Create Blocks and confirm transactions (mine Blocks).

In Pooled Mining the only real Miner is the pool, all the others are just selling shares, leaving the pool to do with it whatever he wants.

 Tongue
1194  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are there enough nodes online? on: August 12, 2013, 12:46:33 PM
There are on the order of 4000 to 5000ish listening nodes. Average connection counts on listening nodes suggest that there are something on the order of 50,000 total bitcoin nodes.  It's likely that we're soon going to be going through cycles of running out of listening sockets again, this happened back in early 2011 due to rapid growth and now due to greater numbers of people running bitcoinj (android wallet, multibit, etc.) which consumes connections but doesn't contribute back to the network.

A lot of people use Bitcoin only via websites, what this says for the future security of bitcoin is hard to say.


Would a small monetary incentive towards being a full node help matters much? It looks like running a node actually offers no advantage and plenty of disadvantages to online and lite nodes.

That's one of the disadvantages of Bitcoin and what I think it's one of its most serious flaws. Bitcoin pays you for producing hot air, but there is no financial inactive in providing the resources it actually needs. Bandwidth and Space. In the original design this was tied together as in order to mine you also needed to run a full node. In this design every miner would, besides buying high priced electric heaters, need to invest money into having a well connected node and to store the Blockchain.

 The invention of pooled mining changed this. Now Mining Pools are the only ones that rally need to run full nodes. Some Business maybe will also invest in nodes, but it isn't absolutely necessary for them.
1195  Economy / Lending / Re: [FUNDED]NASTY MINING: 500GH/s Miner Loan on: August 12, 2013, 11:19:42 AM
LENDERS:
Handle Loan Amount Repayment Address Repaid
AkkaBTC2012bVVHkwVACJteSUGuQNQbMYm5ffwRbC49YES
Lender Akka has been repaid.

http://blockchain.info/tx/77813ecaed15830d4ce4a53234591b246bbaf512b91b9231f2e24e393a48663b

Confirmed.

Thank you.
1196  Other / Meta / Re: LOL on: August 12, 2013, 10:03:15 AM
Have you thought about posting a reply instead? Maybe something along the lines of "Your post made me laugh"?
For maximum creepiness, PM that response to them.

As a picture featuring glittering hearts and kissy lips.

1197  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How can I open wallet file from a different computer. on: August 12, 2013, 08:57:30 AM
You should always have a backup of you wallet.dat file anyways, otherwise you have the risk of permanently loosing all your Bitcoins.

The question where to save a backup (+explanation why) is something that should IMO be implemented in the client.
1198  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why MP is your God. on: August 12, 2013, 07:06:56 AM
MPEx is now doomed without S.DICE. But I hope you already knew this.

Well, there is still S.MPOE on MPEX and MP is quite aware what this makes out of MPEX, hence the Backround of this Photo



Maybe this is also why he needs this masturbation thread to jerk off to?  Wink
1199  Local / Suche / Re: [S] BTC Kredit on: August 11, 2013, 08:01:31 PM
(Pic vom Perso und einer Rechnung) ist dem User "Akka" bekannt.

Kann ich bestätigen.

Bin mit 10BTC zu diesen Konditionen dabei:


Nun such ich User (einen oder mehrere) die mir zu 7% diese 50 BTC leihen. Rückzahlung wären also insgesamt 53,50 BTC nach spätestens 4 Wochen. Sollte ich die Schuld früher tilgen, ändert das nichts an der Gesamtrückzahlsumme.
1200  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: MtGox - Dauer von Einzahlungen von deutschen Banken on: August 11, 2013, 01:05:24 AM
@Klaus

http://www.bitcointrezor.com/
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