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1181  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling experience using loan money on: July 28, 2023, 04:18:10 PM
I knew that there's many topic like this in the past that asking advice about loaning for gambling. The intention of this thread is determined what's the actual feeling when you are using a loan money on gambling knowing that there's an interest rate on your borrowed money which means you already lose part of your money before you start gambling.

I saw many high rank users here that asking for loan and directly deposit the loan amount on gambling account. I want to know what's the experience on using loan money. Is there additional pressure on gameplay or just the same using regular money without an interest rate.
It is obvious. Ofcourse you'd be more pressured gambling an amount you borrowed compared to an amount from your pocket. Reason is simple, you win you return the money; you lose, you will still have to pay it. It is like a double risk and will never be advisable. Indeed there re still players who does such thing but never copy this behavior. Also if you see yourself in such action, then you should worry. A point that you are ready to risk everything in gambling is already a sign of addiction 'coz you're no longer worried or aware of the consequences.
I have not seen and heard anyone asking or used loan for gambling but I have seen and heard in this forum that someone asked if he can used loan for investment and not gambling. Op I ask you to bring the high rank user who used loan for gambling. Using loan to gamble is 50/50 and if you loss then you have entered debt and if you win, you will be release from the high tension of your mind. Using loan to play gambling is and will never be a good idea. But among the gamblers and the most addicted ones borrow money from another gambler to pay interest in the casino hall to play gambling. Even those ones are small amount.
I also doubt especially for higher rank foeum users. They're more experienced basically so for sure they know how to manage the risk in both worlds of investment and gambling. But I honestly not saw one, also will not do it for sure. Limiting oneself should be a mandatory in gambling industry in order to avoid making things worse.
1182  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Searching for articles or talks of long-term (10+ years) Bitcoin hodlers on: July 27, 2023, 06:53:33 PM
I would like to read or listen to long-term Bitcoin hodlers. Can I ask you to recommend them and their content, please?
Would be hrd to get in touch with those who have held for that long. Also, what's the point of doing so? If they tell you to buy at this point would you do it? Ofcourse they's be positive towards this industry in general simply because they are having huge profit already. But this is not to limit you at the present. You may invest at this point and earn profit in the future. However if you desire having the same profit as them, then that would be impossible unless you are okay with putting huge amount in this blockchain to be held for years as well. You may read articles of people who are having Bitcoin holdings, surfacing the web.

Bottomline here is what would you do after seeing some? Would it be enough to convince you to do it as well even if no one has the assurance that its market price will continue increasing for the next decade?
1183  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: benefits of having mature accounts at 3 casinos (personal experience) on: July 27, 2023, 06:07:42 PM
So there is no need to have such multiple casino accounts, so that brings us to the question of why having multiple VIPs when one is ok to take care of all your gambling needs and whatever benefits in rewards that you expect to get from your activities on the account. ? @@@

The fact is that a single user is playing in various different casinos, I doubt a gambler play in 1 casino only their entire gambling journey.
What is the reason? Obviously it has nothing to do with chasing VIP accounts or to get the VIP benefits in various different casinos.
VIP account is just a side benefit of being active player so do not think that why those who own multiple VIP accounts are merely chasing it, but they are playing normally in every casino and they received the benefits for being active players.

Some are moving because of bonuses and rewards especially with new gambling platforms introducing their site to players. Another reason is 'tilting' if you are familiar with the term used for somehow calibrating one's luck if he is losing consistently. Last that I know is satisfaction with the service. There will be times inconvenience would happen with payouts and deposits as well with betting. Ofcourse it would be a gambler's demand to play without any disturbances caused by bugs and lags and the likes. Having a matured account is indeed something but if you don't get any benefit or advantage from being or having one, then not everyone would seek for such title.
1184  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Deposit limits on: July 27, 2023, 05:44:18 PM
This is how it is on gambling sites:

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Many of our customers use Deposit Limits to manage their spending. Limits can be set for a 24 hour, 7 day or 30 day period and cannot be overridden

You can decrease your Deposit Limits at any time and this will be applied immediately.

Before increasing your Deposit Limits carefully consider if you can afford to do so. Never decide to increase your limit because you have lost money and think that you will win it back by gambling more. If you wish to increase a limit you will need to wait 24 hours before we action your request and then return to our site to confirm that you still want to increase it.

I quoted it from a gambling site.

This is just an evidence that their is nothing called deposit limit. Assuming you set it to 7 or 30 days and you set it to $100. Once you bet and lose the $100, you can wait for 24 hours to increase it above $100.

Without discipline yourself, you will increase the limit and gamble more. I have been into gambling for many years, this is one of the problem I have faced before.

But for people that gamble daily, setting a daily limit can be helpful. It is the only one that is useful.
Thing won't work; you could just create another account if you are really down for it. Indeed what we need as gamblers is discipline. We should set for limits to ourselves. The phrase "bet only what you cannot afford to lose" will be always brought up. No one wants to lose ofcourse but bottomline here is an amount you can replace if by any chance you would be needing it. Going all out in gambling won't put you anywhere better.
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I don't quite agree with you. Limiting deposits is indeed useful, but only when it is not done through the casino and you have learned how to control yourself while gambling. Without this skill, using casino deposit limiting services you can easily go to another casino and lose all the money on your credit card. You need to learn how to set limits for a gaming session deposit and honor them. I myself use this strategy and I will tell you honestly that after I learned to do this I started losing much less money.
Well, this is not to not appreciate deposit limits set by gambling platforms. But such limits won't mean nothing if the gambler him/herself is the problem. There are many ways to play as long as gambling platforms are accessible in your country. If one is addicted already he'd move to another platform just to satisfy that urge to play.
1185  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be play with care on: July 27, 2023, 04:54:04 PM
Anything that has risk should be taken with more care. Here in gambling industry, nothing is certain as we all know. Go all out and be prepared to have nothing at the end of the day. Be greedy and you'd lose everthing. Always expect the bad outcome 'coz you'd be losing more often. Yes, risk could be minimized a bit but it will always be there. Limiting oneself from loses is simply what winning is all about. No matter how huge your profit is, it would be gone in a minute or two if satisfaction won't meet you . It is not how much you have earned this day but rather how much have you lost eversince you gambled.
We do always get a lot of that reminders but we have no idea if many of the readers do follow that are experiencing severe gambling. And a gambler will always be aware of how much he starts to gamble but when the feeling is intense, he'll never know how much he's been losing because his mind is also losing because of the emotional trigger that gambling gives to anyone. So you get the idea of those gamblers that are reminded but then, still forgets to follow these tips.
That's no longer part of our problem I guess. There's no need to force them to be responsible. That's their money and they have full responsibility of it. It is just tiring to see them cry and regret things once they reach the bottom, then blaming other people why such thing happened. Sometimes a lesson learned would be a bit expensive.
1186  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Irresponsible behavior at the Las Vegas Casino on: July 27, 2023, 04:14:36 PM
A man run naked in a Las Vegas casino (Linq Casino) and jumped on the poker table and started to dance. He was arrested instantly by the security, however his family says that he was drunk and therefore he did such type of act.

More details can be read here Naked Gyrating Guy Arrested at Harrah’s Las Vegas Was Drugged, Family Claims

The point here is why gamblers do such shameless acts and what the rules of the casino suggest the penality for these acts. Do you think the gambler did it purposefully perhaps to become popular in the headlines  Huh
My take on this is, why would he allow himself to be 'that' drunk? Also, being drunk will never be a valid reason. You should first know your limit whether to still take another shot or go home already than to cause disturbance towards other people. We ain't kids no more. Also with casinos, indeed vices are allowed in some places but atleast if it is alcohol, management should be expecting some fools to be in such instance; He wouldn't be finished undressing for only a minute given that he's drunk. This should have not got into worse by allowing him to atleast be on the table to humiliate himself. Not totally blaming the casino but safeguard players who are serious on what they are doing, from some irresponsible individuals.
1187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto EGG Meme Run to $1 on: July 26, 2023, 06:58:47 PM
No assurance and would only be possible if investors would all think the same way. Indeed what we saw with PEPE is promising but it won't happen with guarantee. Keep in mind that it is memetoken we are talking about and there's no utility of it; meaning, demand will only be created by shared interest and if that thing is missing, huge investors' manipulation is the only way possible for its market value to blow up jist like last time. I personally never heard of this token before which for me is doubting. But if you could afford losing an amount to somehow 'bet' on it then you are free to do so. Who knows? Maybe it become a huge thing as well on its release. Better lose trying than to do not try at all if it really caught your interest.
1188  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Don't expect everyone to embrace Bitcoin on: July 26, 2023, 06:29:11 PM
The earlier we understand that bitcoin is not for everyone, the better because it saves us the time and energy that we would have used to convince those who are uninterested, to move on to those who are interested and it can also drive adoption faster. I've read some threads here of some people trying to convince their family members on the positives of Bitcoin and get enraged if the said members don't share the same opinion as them but I feel everyone is entitled to his opinion and while some regard Bitcoin with outright disgust like Charlie Munger, there are some who care less of it's existence.

Bitcoiners have the opportunity to stand for something and that's eliminating the need for central authorities such as the government and banks and rather than forcing everyone to confirm to their beliefs, it's better to find an audience worth serving. What's your take, guys?





Let's really expect that most people will not embrace or recognize Bitcoin. Just like me, my family or relatives don't believe in what I'm doing, even though they see that I'm surviving because of what I'm doing.

So I don't talk to them about Bitcoin because I know their response. they just let me do what I do. So this Bitcoin is really a big thing for me, it is God's instrument to provide me with my expenses and pay my billings which if I total and I spend around 400-600$ a month, depending on the market of Bitcoin or cryptocurrency.
It's good for you to earn or benefit from Bitcoin. We just cannot change how other people see something differently in comparison with how we view it. This has something to do with how well you know aboyt something. Since we know its potential then ofcourse would be biased of it but others may not. In most instances those who do not engage in this technology are those who knows only a few about this industry. And some of them are aware of the advantage but are still not convinced to invest because they cannot embrace the risk. Eitherway, we don't have to force them towards Bitcoin adoption. We should rather wait for such thing to occur for them to be fully ready of this technology's difference over fiat.
1189  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Other Things You Can Bet on Aside Sports and Casino Games on: July 26, 2023, 05:37:31 PM
Anything could be gambled about. Difference is the volume and interest to a certain topic. Ever wondered why not all games are having tournaments? Or not all sports are being displayed with sportsbetting platforms? 'coz it does not have enough fanbase or community to support the interest. With reggards to odd topics such as Celebrity's death, it would be possible IF you will have someone or group of people who you could /have be in contrast with. It will all start with two or more different stands in a single topic and the will to put money or anything in exchange for the consequence of having the wrong standpoint or guess. Therefore, anything is simply possible to be a betting topic.
1190  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Inoue vs Tapales for Unified Super Bantamweight Title - November on: July 26, 2023, 05:20:34 PM
Inoue has the upperhand in this. To some it would be a disadvantage 'coz he won't be able to rest for long but on the other end, he's on fire from his recent TKO Victory. As we all know, Tapeles has quite having a not so perfect stats for his career unlike with Inoue having 25 wins without any loss, and 22 by way of KO, which is obviously impressive. Stats indeed won't guarantee the winner but it is for sure a factor; it won't be in such numbers for nothing. There's still hope for Tapales for this match if he qould be more agressive 'coz if not, he would be pounded more likely by Inoue before he does. However if the wind would change on majority's expectation, then this would be a huge break for Tapales.
1191  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Abuse ... on: July 26, 2023, 04:19:04 PM
Gambling abuse is simply gambling addiction. Everyone indeed is allowed to play and gamble. Some are financially benefiting from it and some are being entertained from doing so. Gambling for a long period of time within a day does not guarantee abad outcome. What does, is simply instances wherein emotion becomes an innate drive to go for more despite of the situation or circumstances; huge loss. Time after time, either a winning or losing bet, you'd be wanting for more in order to get back with the losses. And once you hit a huge win and have already got back with that amount, you'd be desiring for profit afterwards. Then the unfortunate will again happen, and that would be a cycle. Key player here is our emotion and our discipline with ourselves. Is gambling a dangerous activity? No, it is our intention which is.
1192  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 5 Bitcoins to never gamble again. Will you take it? on: July 25, 2023, 04:37:47 PM
I'd take it simply because it is an assured amount. I do enjoy playing or gambling but if I qould go back to why I have started in this industry, such thing would answer my purpose which is to earn money. Also, I have no plans to depend on my fortune alone. Would I be holding only to that amount of BTC? For sure I would diverse it to other investments inside and outside this industry. Putting it into a single bucket would  be profitble still but why would I be contented with it if there's another way to do so?Bitcoin's market value won't increase in an instant, with consistency.

With regards to gambling, it won't allways be fulfillimg especially if you often lose in your game. I'd be okay with quitting gambling if there would be a good exchange or better exchange of what I am doing.
1193  Economy / Gambling / Re: bankroll 1000 € on: July 25, 2023, 04:07:10 PM
Hello i want a bankroll of 1000 € who wants to back me ?

i have good account with good bonusses (chests)   you can get my winnings 50-50


First of all, it would be hard to find a financer especially in gambling. Also qith a 50-50 stats? That is not a good winrate 'coz we all have the same chance of winning. There is always a 50%chance to lose and ofcourse 50% chance to win and this can only be changed by your strategy and analysis of the game itself. Obviously, such winrate won't attract anybody to back you up, do better to earn it best.
If you're not going to try to listen to advice, then I don't care what you have to say on this forum.

that's really mature of you   so if i have my own view of the situation then you don't want to deal with me anymore ?  No i need to listen to the almighty yahoo 

I live my life sir and you live yours  how about that ?  I shouldn't be teached on how to live my life by someone i don't even know from the internet
Why did you ask for help in the first place if you don't want any comment about it? It is a bit funny. We do get your point; you are seeking for a financial support from others for you to have a fund and for you to continue gambling. Commebts in this topic might not directly help you with your particular concern but atleast it could give you a perspective such as showing proofs to attract more people that you deserve to have what you are wantinv on this topic. They are not dictating you to behave in such way but rather giving you an alternative to achieve yoyr goal in this topic.
1194  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greed can cause a lost bet, (true or false) on: July 25, 2023, 03:39:59 PM
In short greed may yield you to a huge loss. One of the common instances is winning big time and still deciding to continue playing because of expectation to again win the game. Having a better vision of any scenario is indeed a good thing to have but not with gambling. Think of it as something that you won't get on a daily basis. Once you experienced winning huge amount, it is not necessarily to quit already especially if you are enjoying it but atleast try taking a pause of it 'coz emotions would be playing afterwards for sure and that is a huge no in gambling.
Greed has led so many gamblers to great loss and the problem is that gamblers will never change from their greedy habit because they want to hit it big. I am not exempted from this,since sometimes I prefer betting on longer slip than short ones. The fact is that as gamblers,we always have that hope and belief that we will win the game and that is where greed blind folds us on. If a gambler forgets about winning a game,he will stay more focused on betting wisely and will also put lost into consideration. This will enable him gamble for fun and he might end up winning.
Greed is possessed by almost everyone and only a few gamblers can control themselves not to have a greedy attitude.
So far, there have been lots of adverse events that gamblers have experienced because they always want to get bigger things and of course this is a disaster for anyone.
The average gambler who often has greed is those who want wealth from the results of gambling, that's why every win is unacceptable and instead wants to have bigger wins.
The idea of getting back with previous losses would more likely to take place as well which is one's way to hide greed., aside from just earning more. Then it would be a domino effect. First attempt would be okay but the second one will give a gaslight that you still have more of your winnings, then it would continue. In gambling it will always be advised to be preventive of negative outcomes no matter how huge your advantage is.
1195  Economy / Gambling / Re: what are the best crypto casinos! on: July 25, 2023, 03:09:34 PM
I don't know why so many people like Stake Casino. I lost many times without a single withdrawal of money. Played exclusively in slots. In less popular casinos, I have more luck.
Luck won't always be there for you. Being in gambling industry requires everyone to know that. If you are losing then it might not be your day; some are even having bad week or even a month. Try other gambling games or if you are into sportsbetting, try making a better analysis of the game. Or try going with the odds; there are many ways to come up with a win but ofcourse losing will always be a part of the game.

I do agree with the list, these are indeed the best ones right now, in this industry. There are other platforms as well which are not mentioned but if things would be continuously good on those sites, eventually they'd be as well with players' list of platforms to engage with. Every platform can offer huge amount of rewards and bonuses but not all sites could give a quality service to their players.
1196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Would You Advise People To Stake? on: July 24, 2023, 11:56:25 PM
If they know how staking works, then ofcourse, especially if the platform they are engaging into has the reputation to be trusted in this industry. Problem most of the time are people choosing to stake but are not okay with holding their asset for a period of time. Also with staking, if you chose the wrong project and tokens wouldn't be pull out, expect for a loss. Downside of staking is not being able to pdecide for your holdings during that period. You'd be seeing how its market value is falling and you have no other choice but to endure it. So if you are planning to stake  make sure you still have the power to move out instantly.
1197  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How can a person buy a hardware wallet where crypto is ban? on: July 24, 2023, 11:39:51 PM
I am from a country where crypto currencies are strongly legalized. I know about the hardware wallet security it's best for the long-term bitcoin holder. Now is there anyway to import a hardware wallet to any country where crypto currencies are illegal ?
And one more things I wanna know that how can I chose a best budget friendly hardware wallet? 

Why would you use hardware wallet in a country wherein crypro is banned? Also why would they still invest if they're from that country? Your money would be on deep sleep if ever the restriction won't be lifted by the government. Also, this technology is not the only investment option so don't push it here. Let's say you are able to invest, but how would you pull it out? Let us not be too optimistic, there'd be a time you'd need to pull your investment out. If you are still that eager, I guess electrum wallets would be enough to allow you from doing so. It just depends on the ctual situation whether it is toatally banned or just not supported by governments.
1198  Economy / Economics / Re: Im looking for traders and financial people to join with me on: July 24, 2023, 11:15:04 PM
I got your point. As others have mentioned you may just engage to this forum to gain knowledge but I do understand that  a peer group would be more interactive and would be more engaging with thoughts and perspective. Problem only is that, if you would just be inviting in this forum, chances are just getting few people with the same interest as you are and more people just wanting to gain something from your group and not having plans to share their idea. Much better if you'd do this on people you personally know and that would makes thing to work, easier.
1199  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My Appeal to the Average Joe and Jane Bitcoin Investors: Buy Bitcoin Now! on: July 24, 2023, 10:53:41 PM
If it is for long term holding, atleast 2 years, then ofcourse buying at this point would be a good thing to do given that its price is still half of its ATH. And as we all know, once bullrun occur, the market value is again expected to reach and break the previous highest market price therefore the chance to earn profit is high in such way. But ofcourse there would still be risk, obviously; the market peice won't increase continuously in a consistent manner so still choose to manage things.
Most of the time people get into bitcoin and they make an exit at the earliest. This is all because of the improper understanding and investing into it looking for big money. When this turns to be a disappointment, some just leave it for the next set of growth. People who entered the market unknowingly will just endup losing and leave the market. These people who doesn't have the understanding and losing will then spread negativity about bitcoin which needs to be avoided.
Unfortunately, we have different circumstances. Ofcourse everyone wants to earn profit but not everyone are capable of just holding their asset no matter what happened. There are times they would pull out simply because they cannot stand huge losses even if it is just partial. On other instances are just impatience of things.
1200  Economy / Economics / Re: Pool strategy of investment for wealth multiplication. on: July 23, 2023, 11:57:21 PM
In such way you'd have larger capital which would allow your business to be stretched longer especially in downtimes. But having larger capital won't guarantee success even if you have multiple number of 'heads' to come up with a more efficient business plan. It still depends on who are in that circle. Also  if you will have the same amount of investment each, who'd move for your business? will the tasks be distributed equally as well? It should be and this is where problem may arise 'coz there are people who have the money to invest but are lacking the will to mke a business bigger. So better choose the right ones in that pool.
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